'Animal abuse' accusations 'SHOCK equestrain world' with 6 time medalist suspended
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- Опубликовано: 20 окт 2024
- Former Editor of Horse and Hound, Lucy Higginson, discusses Charlotte Dujardin's suspension from the Paris Olympics following allegations of animal abuse.
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Animal cruelty is not acceptable
This statement has no lies in it 👆👆
Isn't that woke?
The only thing she's sorry about is she's been caught !!!
feminism ruins sports
rule number one of lunge whips - they are NEVER meant to TOUCH the horse at all never mind actually whip the legs or anything else. Not for ANY circumstance. I cannot understand why a professional trainer would even think of doing that - how is any lesson afterwards going to be productive with the horse focusing on the whip instead of her voice, the poor horse will be traumatised. Its not the purpose of the lunge whip at all. Shes only sorry she got caught, she cannot call herself a trainer.
A tormentor yeas she is.
Unforgivable. Charlotte Dujardin should be banned from animals for life.
She said it was an “error of judgement” No love, it’s called abuse.
Especially if she repeatedly did it..
Omid the "Love" and I agree with you
The error in judgement was the part where she got caught!
@@annastracke5259no I won’t. Love.
@@fazertace6837 My experience (seven decades) of people doing bad things is that judgement never enters into the process. Such actions are not ill-considered - they are not given ANY consideration at all.
The veneers of civilisation and humanity are VERY thin. We are ALL capable of unthinking cruelty and stupidity and, similarly, of judgementalism. They are two sides of the same coin. We ought keep both tendencies in check, but in the world just now, the devil seems to be rolling that coin almost everywhere. We should all consider:
"To err is human, to forgive divine"
- Alexander Pope: An Essay on Criticism
and
"Labor intus"
- Anonymous contrived ambiguous caption on Mappa Mundi in Hereford, England
As a lifetime horse owner, I have watched the rapid decline in competition standards - it’s all due to money…look at the way dressage horses are bitted and bridled up compared to how they were a few years ago. They’re only sorry because they get caught. She only pulled out when she knew the video was being released. Disgusting and unnecessary behaviour.
@@TheWizardOfTheFens agree.
Agree!!! The FEI needs to be held accountable for the decline in actual classical Dressage for this mock saddleseat hybrid abomination that now exists.
Take back the gold medals. Disgusting. You can't call yourself an Olympian!
I was speaking with a good friend's dressage trainer last year (yes I know it sounds like one of those stories: I was speaking with someone who knew someone else....). Nevertheless, this person is a very well-respected international dressage trainer who teaches their clients how to be kind and compassionate with their horses. I asked them about their relationship with Carl Hester and whether they knew Charlotte. This person said pretty much what this lady said: that Carl is a wonderful, natural horseman who treats his horses with real kindness and a gentle hand. He goes over and above what many do - from the ordinary rider to the rich competitive owners - and gives them as easy and as natural a life as he can and they flourish as a result. I don't believe there is anyone who will come forward to contradict this. On the other hand, Charlotte was incredibly harsh by comparison and often pushed her horses and those of her clients beyond what they were capable of to get results. And this dressage trainer had rehabilitated a number of horses that Charlotte had previously taught and in some cases ridden. Horses absolutely will submit to pressure and I've no doubt she pushed Valegro beyond what many would consider reasonable. And despite Carl being the more skilful, kind and capable rider, Charlotte got the results and that's what dictated what people thought of her and subsequently allowed her to get away with her training methods. I think it is very said that Carl and her other colleagues will get tarred with the same brush as her - at least by some. Although they are not entirely innocent. I have no doubt Carl and others will be aware of her harsh training methods as they work so closely together, but it's not always that easy or straightforward to confront the issue head-on. Especially when the person in question is winning Olympic gold medals and bringing in huge amounts of revenue from sponsorship deals etc. You only have to watch a few interviews with Carl and Charlotte on RUclips where they talk about Carl having to tell Charlotte to rein-in her overly competitive nature. I don't believe for one moment this is the first time Charlotte has done this. The ease at which she behaves in this video strongly suggests she's done it many times before. And the fact that she's comfortable enough to do it knowing that many clients film their lessons, just tells you how comfortable many in the equestrian community are with this behaviour. From your average rider, to riding schools, to show jumping yards, to eventing and dressage yards and most certainly racing yards, this behaviour is seen throughout all of these disciplines worldwide. The best we can hope for from this situation is that it shines a strong light on animal welfare and makes people rethink how they approach their training with these beautiful creatures. Re-education is what is needed. If they can't do it with kindness and compassion, in partnership with the animal, then they should go and do something else. And equestrian sports should be pulled completely until these terrible practices are stamped out completely.
She needs to be in jail w a felony
No animal should be hit at all. Horses like learning, so kindness & patience is needed NO whipping of any sort!🤦♀️
@@robotlove62this was clearly different to that.
They are only sorry because she got caught.
I’m furious that this woman is not being charged with cruelty. YES IT IS HER NORMAL BEHAVIOUR
If Dujardin is doing this, you can bet it is widespread. “Error in judgment” is a joke. She was whipping the horse with precision and determination, with no compassion whatsoever towards the horse. When he kicks out in protest of the pain, she whips him again. Disgusting. The entire equestrian world needs to crack down hard on these abusers. Their measly 6 months to a year suspensions are nothing more than a slap on the wrist. Abuse should merit a ban for life.
Spoilt, arrogant, entitled.
Not from a posh family. If she was a black male track athlete from Manchester you wouldn't be saying that, would you?
@lindsayheyes925 she certainly acts like she's entitled.
@@kimgrant3879 Not if you've met her.
Now let’s discuss Prince Harry digging his spurs into his Polo ponies and making them bleed , I wonder if they will include that in his upcoming Netflix show
Along with prince charles hitting his polo horse.
Let's not forget that fifty years ago this same royal family was out on safari shooting wild animals yet you all worship them for some degenerate reason.
Harry was responsible for the death of his pregnant polo pony. Pushed it too hard in spite of warnings. Poor soul and foal died, mare had a heart attack. Barbaric
A bullying, nasty piece of work. She almost seemed to be enjoying herself.
Can someone please explain the background laughter too?
@@jacqueline4905 royal family loved shooting animals on safari, yet you all give them your full support.
Should be stripped of any medals .
Agree.
Disgusting & cruel behaviour.. Strip of her Olympic medals and like drug cheats she needs to held accountable..
the only error of judgement was letting herself be filmed
Agree.
i agree! what an awful person
What a vile woman. She should be banned from keeping animals for life like anyone would. Im glad she's been found out. Poor horse, they shouldn't be humiliated in dressage, racing, or anything else to do with sport. Hope the horse was not mentally scarred.
The entire sport needs to be banned. This is common practice.
The horses are scarred.
Probably happens all the time.
Why did it take four years to release this?
Why wait til the eve of the Olympics?
How many more horses were hurt?
Blackmail
@@paulwebster2616 Good point.
Possible.
@@stephfoxwell4620 bet she has always done this.
It is the norm. The editor is lying. They are all doing it.
Protecting sponsorships and manors' lifestyle. Ban it for ever from the Olympic games.
Indeed you are right…
Lucy you are incorrect
It happens all the time
You have proof ?
You don't get horses to prance around a paddock, by offering them carrots and sugar cubes! The only thing she regrets is getting videoed and getting caught, the suggestion this is a one off lapse in judgement is ludicrous. It's about time dressage was dropped as an olympic sport.
Agree.its comparable with Russian dancing bears on hot plates.
She should be prosecuted for animal cruelty and have her medals taken away!!!!!!.
Not an error of judgement, an act of cruelty. Only sorry because it's come to light. I hope she's prosecuted by the RSPCA, and forced to return her medals.
I hope poshness doesn't get her off the hook.
She's not from a posh family, so it won't
You'll be surprised the number of women who bully horses when they think no one is around, one woman in Lanarkshire was caught when a stable hand who suspected someone was hurting the horse video'd her kicking a horse repeatedly.
They take out on horses what they can't on men!!!
@@garethgriffiths8428 actually there are a quite a number of women who beat their men , but it is one of the biggest taboos.
I truly hope the RSPCA are involved in this animal cruelty
Unfortunately the RSPCA are useless these days, luckily she's been named and shamed in the limelight.
@@NemesisMarine01not useless ,they don't get the funding ,do some research before commenting
not useless ,they activly support animal abuse in meat and dairy industry do some research
@iliketowatchvideos47 Personal experience gives me the right without research.
Many organisations are underfunded, but that doesn't mean they can be unprofessional and incapable of doing their job.
You can step off your high horse now.
When you have to use pain to control another being, is wrong on all accounts. Inside she is not a nice person.
Yes says alot about her.
Got to banned for life from having animals. Absolutely disgusting human being
Horse and Hound. An organisation known for its kindness to animals. I think they might have found someone more credible to talk about the incident.
Absolutely spot on there.
@@TheKARMMARKyeah, just ask them what they do too these animals when they're done with them! Bullet if they're lucky! The 'Queens Horses' never got retired!!!! Check it out.
I've never used a whip in my life! I don't own one! I've been in this business for decades! Whips are unnecessary! If you have to put fear in your horse to perform, you're a terrible equestrian! Abused horses won't give you their entire heart either! Abuse creates a scared and fearful horse! Most horses hate dressage and that's a fact. Charlotte made the entire sport look horrible in front of the world. Shame on her!
This horrible revelation has shone a light onto the cruel discipline called Dressage, which uses harsh methods to force these beautiful noble creatures into making unnatural movements purely for human entertainment. Charlotte Dujardin has been exposed as an animal abuser and should be banned for life from keeping horses. Dressage should be dropped from all top level competition
Not a sport it's a circus act!
That so called sport should have been banned years ago
No we all don’t train like her. She’s taking her down with us. My horses are happy and love to work (most days).
Shame shame shame on you charlotte
Horsey types always come up with excuses saying how much the horses 'love' what they are doing.
The big question is, how many more of them in the dressage world abuse horses and how long has it gone on for? I bet it is hundreds of abusers and probably decades. So where is the regulator for this sport. NO WHERE !!!!!
Just like whips used in horse racing.
We’ve already seen a good bit of evidence of widespread cruelty by other equestrians over the years. It’s very common I’d imagine.
This is something that does go on in dressage behind closed doors and the FEI and BD need to look at themselves for demanding more and more of riders and horses in dressage tests. I withdrew my membership some months ago from BD because grass roots riders with ordinary but lovely horses are not able to compete on a level playing field against the pros because BD is demanding more and more flamboyance and not judging the correct training of ordinary horses. If an 'ordinary' horse is going in a fluent, supple way and performing movements in the dressage test that are soft, rhythmic and there is good harmony between horse and rider it shouldn't matter that its legs aren't up around its ears and that the hind leg is coming so far underneath that it eventually causes arthritis and the horse breaks. I know many good sympathetic riders who are training their horses in a lovely way but not getting the high marks that some pros are getting because they are not prepared to put their horses under such stress. BD and the FEI needs to get their act together and look at the way the sport is going. This is not a one off!
Sorry that she got caught carrying out such nasty cruelty to a horse, and declaring that the video wasn't her normal way to behave......... Not buying her apology, my opinion is that what she was recorded doing was her normal behaviour she was enjoying it she's done it before and she'll do the same thing again she's just a cruel person and thats a character trait she hasn't got intention of dealing with personally sad truth.
Agree.
As a horse & animal lover in general, I find this kind of behaviour disgusting! She should be banned from competing for life!
Disgusting
What is? Did you see the actual video?
@@DS-xg9kf yes
@@Agaliki6 then if you think that was cruel behaviour you need to get a grip.
@@DS-xg9kf who the f are you you get a grip and grow up
@@DS-xg9kf 🥱🥱🥱 troll
The equestrian industry is horrific ,has been forever ,shes been found out
Not all the equestrian world is horrific. I do horses for a living and yes I have made mistakes, but have never laid a whip to a horse and I never will
This is a case of abuse and I hope it lifts the lid and all are exposed..
Not sure how else you manage to get a horse to perform as they do in dressage without the animals being mistreated. Why do people think bears can dance?
If you have a watch of liberty trainers, especially Jesse Drent with his ex bull fighting horse Gaio, some do like it. He rides his horses without a bridle at all and on the rare occasion he uses one, they're bitless.
I think hitting horses isn't training.
I was taught from an early age that if you mistreat a horse it can maim or kill you. It has a brain of its own, and a lot of the bond between rider and horse is based on the horse - nsturally a fearful prey species - trusting the rider to keep it safe.
The truth is that most working animals love working because good trainers make the work fun and rewarding: That is called 'enrichment'. Most pets I see are bored and what would count as 'institutionalised' if they were human.
You don’t have to mistreat an animal for it to do tricks etc, I don’t beat my dog when training it!
@@ClareRogers-d4z So have you trained your dog to do 4 types of trot? I can only get my dog to sit for a treat.
Why is anyone needing to do an investigation???
It is as clear as it can get what this is
Thank you for spreading this video all over the world so we all can see the face of evil
Barbaric practices by so-called civilized people! If they treat animals that way imagine how they treat people!
Britain traditionally do well at the posh sports. It wasn't her own horse apparently, as if that's an excuse. Too many horsey people enjoy welding a whip as Jilly Cooper observed.
Not unnatural? Lol when's the last time you saw a horse in a field doing the tango
Some of the liberty trained horses do it because they do enjoy what's being asked. Jesse Drent is one trainer, his horse is an ex bull fighting horse and he has worked extensively to help his mind set following that. He does liberty training. The horse can be ridden without a bridle at all and also works with him without a rider at all. So in those cases, I would say the horses do enjoy it.
@@ChrisAndCats I agree they are trained well and cared for I just imagined a horse dancing lol
Needs banning. Now.
🤣
😂
She should also be stripped of titles and medals should be revoked.
More than just trainers whipping! Rolkur, bits, over extension ! FEI should be ashamed of themselves all round! Sadly everyone is looking up to this standard of "dressage". As well as jumping horses at unreasonable heights pulling them up by the bit to get over the next jump when they are exhausted! Bits whips spurs all deemed fine by calling it "aids". The equestrian world is warped towards tradition and ego it's mostly negative. Sports involving animals at such high stakes should not be supported because the animal always looses, always.
I agree with much of what you say; however the "dressage" of today is not as it used to be. The tradition of gentle classical dressage has been lost. From what you have written I'm sure you'll recognise the name of Nuno Oliveira, who mastered all the movements without resorting to rollkur or any force on the horse. Today most equestrian sports are (like everything) in pursuit of instant gratification; if you can't achieve what you want, just add more aides! The ethos of gentle horsemanship is fading away, tragically.
ALL Hitting of horses, including horseracing, SHOULD be stopped NOW. ITS barnaric, unessessary and evil.
She should be removed from the sport. Fined for animal cruelty!!
Did you watch the video of her doing it?
@@DS-xg9kfwho hasn't seen it.
@@melgrant7404 you, obviously..
@@DS-xg9kf I have and its cruel.
@@melgrant7404 oh get a grip
My daughter had riding lessons in Boston uk. Her teacher Jane was a monster too. Treated the horse and india badly
4 horses died in one day at a jump race recently…horse sports and selective breeding is gross.
How many humans die on the roads daily , ban driving ?
@@johnou.k.3780 yes ban everything including yourself
The way she whipped that horse was appalling, and worst of all that it was clearly what she did customarily. That wasn't a one-off, it was very clearly what she was used to doing.
Agree. No way was this a one off.
She hardly’whipped’ it 🙄
@@DS-xg9kfof course she did.it horse reacted to it.
That's the very first time she's done that my arse she hasnt even got the decency or moral fibre to admit it, look at the shock on the riders face...what a joke!
Dressage is not a sport and she is not an athlete!!
Proper classical dressage is indeed a sport and has been since the Olympics started. It takes years and years of discipline and hard work. The problem is that there is too much money to be made, so unscrupulous trainers are short cutting the correct methods in favor of strong bits and rollkur, which overbend the horse and produce big movements without proper collection and soft hands. It looks spectacular but is horrible for their health and balance.
I don't believe a word this lady says, this is just damage control because one person got caught.
I also have a real problem that NOBODY has discussed. Why was the person taking the video footage giggling laughing all the way through it??
Will she see jail time for physical assault? Does she not know that a horse's skin is very sensitive and that they feel pain when brutally whipped? She's an absolutely horrible "human being" (and I'm using that term very loosely).
I have an issue with the owner (rider?) letting this happen! I've gotten whip shy horses, rehabbing them is a slow, slow process.
Accusations and alleged, what on earth are you on about there’s a bloody video of her doing it. 🤬🤬🤬
4 years ago. Why now?
Olympics sabotage. But should have been reported sooner.
Olympics
From what I’ve heard this behavior isn’t one bad apple but the entire barrel. This behavior is commonplace among riders in horse competition like dressage because horses in horse don’t want to do what is being demanded of them. 😱
Imagine how many people doing this to horses without being caught
Return the newent post box back to red from the gold .
Gold will now represent her animal cruelty.
She is only sorry she got caught
So those whips exist at all, but nobody uses them?
Sick.
She was using a lunge-whip. Think of it as a "pointing stick". it is NEVER to be used to strike a horse but to indicate direction etc without touching the horse. Which makes Dujardin's misuse of it even WORSE...
Don't give her the credit as great Olympian.
Please remove horse riding out of Olympic.
This is not a fair sport.
It depends mostly on horses not riders.
Horses are forced to compete in the Olympic.
if it was such abuse why did they take so long to go after her??? hmmmm
I believe the rider involved was a teenager receiving training and was pressurised not to report it. Some peer pressure involved but well done to her for finally speaking up. Dujardin isn't the only one, it's a problem in the higher echelons of international dressage - judges permitting rolkur in dressage are also culpable. Rules need to be fixed, fast!
This woman isn’t a one off. She just has a high profile and was caught on video. This kind of training is commonplace in her sport.
.... " Its very much not the norm. "... so says the apologist for shocking horse abuse...... How would she know? .... Its profoundly shocking listening to such b/s from a complete cover up merchant who shows no empathy for the abuse of the horse.
Lady Editor is full of it. Damage control. What horse wants to do dressage? BS
This woman is lying through her teeth, it is very much the norm
Some people live in a different world to us , clearly, we non horsey ones don't understand abuse
She needs to go to Prison....😮
Agree
All she was obsessed was her own success,at the expense of the mistreated horses,once an animal abuser ,always an animal abuser.
At least her abuse disclosure will bring attention to the systemic and ongoing torture of dressage and sport horses, and hopefully of the many riding disciplines that harm horses. Dressage needs to be omitted from the Olympics until there is a strong system in place that protects the horses from abusive training and riding practices.
Sickening 😡
I have a pony of my own, and there is no way I would go to a trainer, no matter how famous they are, that even attempted to whip my pony like that - disgusting and disgraceful.
Animal abuse & the woman doing the video of this abuse is laughing!
Rspca should take action.
Rspca are a joke
What for ?
@@johnou.k.3780did you watch the video?
@@mariamatheson5300 yes , never touched the horse , just whipping behind the horse
@@johnou.k.3780she whipped the horse, he was flinching. And she admitted that she did it
If I was the ' pupil ' on the horse I would have been horrified !
It's a good time to address the cruelty of Rollkur which is being used by many elite riders to train dressage horses. Rollkur needs to be banned and is currently being allowed. and Charlotte should be banned for LIFE from working with horses as she certainly knew better.
I doubt very much that this was a “one off” for this trainer. She is trying to salvage her reputation, but she looked pretty comfortable whipping that horse’s legs. Many and most trainers from all disciplines train horses because they love them, but don’t kid yourself, abuse happens across the board by some people when the stakes are high and the pressure is on to win prestige or a lot of money. That said, I question why the whistleblower chose this time to release the video, when she stated it was filmed 2 1/2 years ago. If she was truly concerned about the welfare of that horse why didn’t she report this immediately? It appears she was more concerned with some kind of vengeance against the trainer than she was in trying to protect the horses.
I can't believe this. I'm shocked and disappointed! There's no excuse and this isn't her first time! She just got caught this time.
Sadly, Charlotte appears adept at ‘horse-whipping’. It begs the question if this is how horses are trained for dressage.? Causing pain to any animal to get it to do something unnatural or more acute to a natural movement to it, is horrid. Shame on Charlotte and the sport.
How can she say the horse wasn’t her own that she was whipping like it’s ok to whip another person’s horse.
Ex horse and hound editor talking crap with her head up the FEI's arse! If she is saying this behaviour is uncommon, she was obviously oblivious when Andreas Helgstrand and cesar parra were reported to the FEI for abusing horses during training, as for Dujardin shes obviously always had that side of her nature when it comes to training she just hides it well ,it makes you think how she trains her own horses when she is brazenly abusing this horse which isn't even hers im no equine trainer but why was she whipping a horse that was obediently going forward what did she think she was achieving! Im with everyone here. i hope She is held accountable for her appalling behaviour towards that lovely horse.
If she treated a dog like that she'd be banned from keeping animals for life, why no prosecution because it's a horse?
****AS A SEMI PROFESSIONAL HORSE GROOMER, YES. THIS IS ALL TOO COMMON IN THE UPPER LEVELS OF HORSE ‘RIDING’!!!****
So who released the footage, that was taken 4 years ago, now and why?
4 this horse is 4. Not that it's ever okay, but he's a baby.
…. The readers of Horse & Hound will be delighted
going dow the tube for sure.
I'm shocked and appalled by this, however, if this happened 4 years ago, why is it only just coming out now?
So extremely sad. Horses are precious and all animals are.A very unbelievable action is totally out of order. One thing she is doing apologising. At same time it is abhorrent. Charlotte will learn from it. A horse is so beautiful,
Why didn’t you show the footage? People should see who she really is. I’ve seen it, and it’s obvious that her cruelty with the whip WAS common practice for her. That was no “one off” temper tantrum. She even laughed at it.🤬
Of course she is lying. It’s her bread and butter. No horse enjoys this.
Oh well someone else using the same tactics will win the gold medal now.
Maybe not for much longer.
She shows herself to be an absolut good person to horses and deceives everyone. You may not imagine what she does with the horses when she is alone with them.
I hope she gets jail time.