The FASTEST pitch in LLWS history. Guess how the hitters did.
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- Опубликовано: 17 ноя 2021
- A record that will NEVER be broken! Doing the near impossible, this player set the unbreakable record.
Alex Edmondson will never be surpassed as the fastest pitcher to throw in Little League World Series history. With the age changes starting in LLWS 2019, the chance another player could surpass Alex is almost impossible.
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122 feet per second equals 83.2 mph, not 86.2. That was clocked at 75 feet, so given your rough calculations of 1mph lost per 8 feet, add 9.3 mph=92.5mph for Walter Johnson. Sorry to nit pick your video.
You are correct. I did say the wrong velocity for Walter Johnson. I also couldn't, at the time, find the location where they measured his fastball, so I wasn't able to do the conversion. Since making this video, I have learned they measured a 15 foot space between 60 and 75 feet.
@@MJHBaseball you tried MJH, you tried...and that's what matters
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@@jesusislord6545 Matthew sounds like a funny man, we should get coffee sometime.
@@jesusislord6545 go get some bitches or something.
Just because the reaction times are equivalent doesn't mean that the difficulty of hitting the pitch is equivalent. Hitting soft toss from 10 feet away could require the same reaction time as hitting Aroldis Chapman's fastball, but is obviously much easier to hit
wow really good point
Still not easy to hit 83 at 46 feet.. but I agree definitely is harder to hit major league pitching. It’s impressive those kids can react at a major league level is all that metric is showing really
Right, because the speed of the pitch still dictates how long the pitch stays in the hitting zone regardless of how quickly the batter needs to initially react
An 83 mph fastball that breaks 4 inches left/right/up/down over 60 feet is also only going to break 1-2 inches over 46 feet, if at all depending on how late it breaks
Thank you finally someone who has common sense
remember when I was a kid there was a pitcher in my little league that threw in the high 70's. Our coach told us to not think about it, and to just shorten up with no load to our swings so the speed of the ball can do all of the work. We ended up hitting three home runs off of him and after that I realized velocity doesn't really matter if you don't have movement. These are great eye openers for kids that age and is a good way to show them that they shouldn't be intimidated by faster pitching when they play more competitively later on.
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@@sethbruh9546 seriously that’s a fire coach
I threw 73 in Little League when I was 12. Lotta kids had a hard time hearing it when you drop a curveball at 55 60
When I pitched I didn't throw super fast, just had a ton of movement on my pitches. Guys could never really make good contact. The one game I felt amazing and knew I was throwing 5+ mph faster than I ever had before I gave up 6 runs in the first innings and took a dinger off my kneecap and had to go to the hospital. I lost all my movement when I gained that velo.
@@LemonInYourEyes yep. Speed is not every thing. My son would rather hit an 80 mph fastball than a 60 mph sinker. It is more difficult to hit pitches with crazy ball spin than high speed low spin balls.
I coached a kid in LL who got his growth spurt early and was throwing either high 70s or low 80s. Unfortunately for him, and the rest of us trying to catch him, he had no command, nor intention/discipline to learn any mechanics. He just wanted to throw hard. He walked a TON of batters, lost a bunch of games due to wild pitches. It was SCARY to try to catch him in warm-ups when the catcher was still getting gear on. I didn't know where the ball was going, and neither did he.
As someone who used to play travel baseball I feel like the majority of kids who threw faster tended to have less control of there pitches
Literally every kid who could throw fast in my house league did this where they just wanted to throw hard with 0 control
I thought you were gonna say the kid blew out his pitching arm.
Repent to Jesus Christ
“He is not here; he has risen, just as he said. Come and see the place where he lay.”
Matthew 28:6 NIV
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And that’s why you need to teach kids not to throw hard. I could care less if I gave up a hit, but no way was I letting myself walk 6 batters a game trying to strike everyone out
1:56 That kid in the batters box looks scared, not blaming him with an 80 something mph fastball coming at him from 46 feet.
With zero control to boot
That doesn't really even look like the "I'm scared face" it's more like the "let me get focused and ready face".
Nah kids are fearless bro. Probably scared he’d strike out though
@@andrayday8064 agreed
@@dallaswood4117 Exactly. His control was all over the place. I would be scared too. Getting hit in the ribs is one thing, getting hit in the head is something else
I played with kid in little league that only gave up 1 hit all season, including all-stars. He could throw pretty hard, but his curveball was deadly. He would literally throw it at the batters head and it would snap into the strike zone. Unfortunately, he was ineffective in high school. Everyone caught up to him in size by then and his curve broke too soon. If he had a twin, they would have won it all at Williamsport. Unhittable.
Normally, a good coach would not let a twelve or thirteen year old throw a curveball. It will kill his arm for some reason. Better he learn how to throw hard and straight even if he gets hit.
I have a similar story. Three years ago, I met a 12-year old kid that could throw around 80 on his fastball. A friend of mine was his coach which is how I met him. Not long ago, I ran into the same kid at a tournament. He's only throwing 85 now and batters have caught up.
@@jackattack2608 I can attest to that.. I was the starting pitcher for a travel team. The same catcher would catch for me since little league. 12 years old and I loved throwing 4 seam, 2 seam, knuckleballs and curveballs. My curveball was fucking nasty though. Feeling of throwing multiple no hitters made me never listen. then at age 16, my shoulder already started killing with every pitch. Safe to say i couldn't play baseball anymore.
Bro same thing happened to me. I had a nasty curve growing up that would make kids duck. Got to high school ball and it got blasted. Had to decide pitching wasn't for me since I wasn't the hardest thrower to begin with.
A fastball hurts your arm more than a curveball, the curveball is said to be the least harmful pitch a player can throw
Alex will be a sophomore in 2022 for the Clemson Tigers. He's listed at 6' 1" and 215 pounds. So basically the same height as when he was 13, just put on some weight. Will be interesting to see if he eventually gets drafted into MLB.
6' 1" and 215 is about perfect for a pitcher. The lanky ones who throw 102 usually need elbow surgery.
Unfortunately Alex has had to have Tommy John a few years back. Has thrown 96mph at Clemson, but has struggled with command. Also has a nasty slider.
@@andrewboyce7268 true except Randy Johnson. His knees were his only major issue he had.
I had 2 major growth spurts. In 8th grade I was 5'9" 160 lbs w/ 80mph fastball, junior year I was 5'11" 190 lbs w/ 88-90 mph FB, and at 21 I finally reached 6'1" 205 lbs w/90-93 mph FB. KEEP in mind this was the 80s/90s radar guns and pitches were clocked crossing the plate.... So you could add a couple mph's if the was clocked at the release point, like it is today...
@@andrewboyce7268 the 2 biggest factors to throw serious velo for myself were FLEXIBILITY & LOWER HALF MECHANICS.
I noticed when I put on muscle, I lost a lot of flexibility and i had to "over throw" to stay around 90.... I
I played in the 05' LLWS for Guam(Pacific), and I remember there was a kid on a team from California throwing an average of 79-81mph. If I remember correctly he pitched a perfect game during pool play which I thought was insane.
Think that cats name was kalen piventel or something. The catcher from Hawaii that year was chucking low 80s too IIRC
Played on 2 teams with Alex. He’s always been ridiculously good even in little league.
For me the most amazing part of the video is at 1:08 (app.), where Feller is pitching to Hank Greenberg, the camera focusing on home plate and Greenberg's swing. You can't even see a blur as the ball passes through the batter's box. Wow!
He threw hard but also the technology at the time couldn't film in as many frames per second back then. So there's part of the reason.
The extension from this tall kid makes it look even faster. Especially from the short mound distance
I remember when my team was going thru the LLWS tournament . Got that cool patch after beating all the local teams . Won the first game of the regional tournament, but then we got absolutely crushed in the second game by a team with a kid throwing low 70s . Good times
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ah yes the LLWS, where skill means very little but the age you hit puberty means everything
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Funny seeing my old team pop up on RUclips. Love our shift everytime Alex was on the mound - 3rd basemen
I remember this. Crazy to let kids this big play on that field. They should have kept the April 30 cut off date like travel baseball, but cut it off at 11. Moving to August 31, did huge harm to little league. Bad move.
its 10-12 thats not a bad age range
@@PassionForThePlant Yes it is. Little League should be 8-10. Then 10-12 should move up to a diamond in between a little league field and a high school field
Good analysis.
My best friend growing up was Bob Fellers grandson. Got to meet him and go to an Indians game with them. Such a cool experience
Fan Chen-Jun hit 80 mph yesterday for Chinese Taipei
It was worth it giving him the award!
He’s now pitching at Clemson 😳
We had a kid In my Little League that was throwing mid/upper 70s. His team didn't even win the championship because he didn't have a great curveball. But it was something to behold.
For those of us who were middle aged, it was more to behold 35 years ago when there weren't light bats.
You don't need a curveball when you're throwing 80. 12 year olds shouldn't even be throwing curvaballs.. changeups.
2023 Pitcher from Chinese Tapai 🤯
I LOVE wll the B.S. stories in here trying to relate😂😂😂.
Walter Johnson got the most cartoony ahh form when he pitches 💀
This year Chen-Jun from Taipei hit 80. He was so impressive though because his breaking stuff was filthy and he just threw strikes all day.
Bob feller just did it to me on mlb the show cant get away from this guy
I pitched in Little League and one of the most important things I learned is that a lot of advantage is had if you are good at not telegraphing what kind of pitch you are going to throw or whether you even intend for the pitch to be a strike or not. Good batters often secretly wait for a particular kind of pitch, and the trick is to avoid giving it to him! For the pitcher there is a whole lot of strategy involved. One of my favorites is what I would dub a "stealth intentional walk". When a skilled slugger gets up, he is hell bent to humiliate a pitcher. But guess what, there is no rule saying a pitcher has to serve up a home-run pitch! It is for reasons like this that baseball is such a great game.
That is baseball at every single level...
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In the 70s, we didn't have the means to measure pitch speed but when I was 12 (the max age) in LL, but we had to have our catcher wear a leather work or garden glove with a sponge inside that, to be able to catch me. I was also pretty big and tall, towering at least a foot over all my all-star teammates' heads. I'm not trying to compete with this kid by bragging on myself, just relaying my experiences in fastball pitching. Judging by the time it took to leave my hand and get to the catcher, I can honestly say, I threw just as hard, or maybe a mph lower. I wasn't wild, but I snapped a kid's humerus in two when it hit his arm. That HAD to be one of my hardest pitches, especially since it went wide right and the humerus is a thicker bone than either the ulna or radius. ;-) -- I was a better hitter than pitcher, hitting 15 homeruns in 11 games, but I'll always be proud of my pitching too. Unfortunately, my growth spurt ended and everybody caught up in size. I pitched in Junior High School (7-9 grades and 54 ft. mound), and did pretty well, but High School was the killer of my pitching career. I just wasn't big enough for 60 foot mounds. Meh... my hitting got me a double-scholarship, so no worries. Congrats to Alex... I hope you go far!
Then I stole 2nd and third from all of those catchers because none were fast enough to get me. God I loved LL.
@@pbird5351 Cuz usually if you could throw strikes you could strike out 90% of LL hitters. I didn't throw hard at all and only threw a fastball in little league, yet had multiple no hitters and shut outs nearly every game.. because I didn't walk batters.
when i was 13 i was on the big field 😭
I was never a hard thrower but I loved the mechanics of pitching and would practice by myself in the backyard for hours in the summer (undoubtedly why my elbow was constantly hurting by junior year.) Buti only remember 2 homers being hit off me and a lot of success with off speed pitches. I don't think I would made it pro but would've loved to see how I did if I had kept playing past sophomore year.
Can I ask - does a pitcher look at the glove the whole time? where does he look? thx I'm learning
@@nofurtherwest3474depends on the pitcher’s mechanics, I don’t look at the glove because I’m a sidearmer but most overhanders do
Aaron Alvey threw some nasty pitches and allowed no runs for long streaks. Insanity
China has a pitcher right now throwing 81-82 mph at 12.
1:56 that kid fears for his life.
It's kinda hard watching a kid throwing that hard at that age and not think he's going to blow his arm out
Nolan Ryan's fastest pitch was 108 mph when he was with the CA Angels. I was there in the 3rd row between home plate and 1st base.
I'm 54 now, my brother 57. When we lived in Miami in 1977, he played at the North Dade Optimist Club and had been clocked in the mid to high 80s, with many of the academies wanting him to play for them. Alas, we moved to Idaho and had to deal with people who did the whole father son thing when it came to choosing pitchers. He was running it up at 98 to 99 in High School, but the weather took it's toll up here on his shoulder. His stats in 1977 were 8-0, 2.8 Ks per inning, with a perfect game and several no hitters. He had an issue with his all-star coach that year and quit, at which point we moved to Idaho (we were leaving after his all-star season was finished). Would have been nice to see what would have happened to his future had we stayed in a warmer climate. I sure miss playing baseball. Would be nice to be a kid again for just that purpose.
@HENRY X81 lol. Nah, he was throwing 98 at 18, but living in Idaho, the cold does things to you. I got him a tryout with the Braves but he had a tweak in the shoulder that he wasn't willing to get cut on (1980s versus today). He's happy with his life, isn't Uncle Rico'ing it. Would have been nice to stay in Miami and see where he may have ended up. Coaches were definitely better down there and we could play ball all year round. There are a lot of reasons why great players come out of warmer climates more often. But then again, Idaho is a beautiful state whereas Florida.....well, it's Florida. Three inch cockroaches are a bit much. Then again, I'll take a Cuban sandwich over potatoes any day of the week.
There was a young LL Pitcher from West Middlesex Pa in the early 2000's that was clocked in the 90's!!!
no 12-13 year old has ever thrown 90,
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I remember when I played AAU for the Tampa Bay Raiders, we had a kid named Ray Delphie that played for one of our rivals....and he legit threw 85 plus and we were all between the ages 13 to 16....it was crazy at the time
85 plus when you're 16 is not crazy at all
Watch the documentary Fastball on here. Walter Johnson was closer to 104. It was clocked at 75 ft if i remembered correctly
Cool video, however its happening this year! Kid from Chinese Taipei. Kids is a freak beast!
My friend Tristan Lucier threw a 77mph fastball when he was in the LLWS
13 year olds playing on a diamond made for 8, 9, and 10 year olds is a joke.
I have a childhood friend who was born a week later than me. I remember when we were 13, I was playing in Babe Ruth, with major league dimensions, against 14 and 15 tear olds and he was tearing up Little League. He was hurling straight gas past 10 year olds and hitting a home run every other game. It was ridiculous.
Obviously, he made the all star team and he carried them all the way to the regional, where they lost to a team from Michigan.
It really wasn't good for him either because he was never really challenged. He dominated and it was mainly because he had hit puberty and was bigger and stronger than everyone else, not necessarily more talented. He went from being, hands down the best player in the entire league to not even making the high school team a year later
This always made me so mad as a kid. Our league was playing full dimensions at 12 years old. Watching kids that were supposedly much better than us play on such a small field felt like an insult.
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That’s the way it goes. Boys playing in girls sports, cheating is allowed. We’re teaching our youth cheating is ok.
I mean it’s tha rule’s
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Thank god
Alex edmunson plays at Clemson now. Pretty cool.
"Juuussst, a bit outside"
We're seeing 80+ by a kid from Chinese Taipei in 2023. I think he's been clocked as high as 82 thus far.
I always like to see where these kids make it to - Alex made it to Clemson, but then transferred to Coastal Carolina - didn't pitch in 2024, no info why. Dylan Maclean got drafted and is listed as injured full season at the moment on the site I found him on.
ian anderson had a signing bonus of 1-1.5 m signed to the braves out of shen in 2016
I’m at 14u right now which is around the age of these kids but we are at 60 foot mound distance. There are kids probably throwing 80 but it is so much easier because we have 20 feet still to go on the mound whereas when it hits the 40 feet on LLWS
I used to live just north of Williamsport and went to the llws 9 straight years.
The talent level of these kids is pretty remarkable.
I think it would be a much better event if they moved the pitcher back 6-8 feet and enlarged the field.
Kids hit balls to the walls and half the time only got singles.
In nine years i never saw a triple.
Its a great event and isnt super expensive so every baseball fan should go once.
I think that there are organizations where the 11-12 year olds play on a 50/70 diamond, and 13-14 play on 54/80.
That is an absolute absurd fastball for LL. Unreal.
I saw Bryce Harper pitch in a USSSA tournament when he was 12. He hit 82 on our gun, held behind the fence behind the catcher. One dude hit 2 HRs of him. He hit 3 off a guy throwing 81.
i played little league with a kid who was rumored to throw 80, apparently pitch hit and run competition clocked him at 82. he was 12
He is at Coastal now and rarely pitches. Transferred in from Clemson.
I actually played against Alex scariest thing ever
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How will it not be beat with people getting stronger each day? When I was younger, we had a pitcher that threw 75mph+ fast balls
2:14...I had to pause it there to read the rest. The first part had me worried.
"I'm not just his sister..."
Wait a minute. You said that the Rhode Island hitters weren't really having a problem getting to his fastball. Then video closes with the broadcaster saying that the pitcher just threw back to back no hitters. Ummm.....
I also said he got outs with his slider. They probably never saw a good slider in their baseball lives until then. It was really a good pitch. But they timed him up pretty well.
The dominican kid: give me the ball
Aye respect to that guy who didn’t give him the award
Nolan Ryan was the ultimate pitcher. his release on fastballs and breaking balls was the same motion. god status
He was good. But I'd have to say Maddux was the ultimate. Surgical. He had so many pitches and could put them wherever he wanted, every single time.
I threw 80’s and then 90s in high school. The conference adjusted and it played no factor if anything it helped hitters after we switched to wood bats.
Danny Almonte is the greatest little leaguer of all time. He was throwing 80 when he was seven years old.
Yea was pitching to12 year olds when he was 14 so he was just lame.
I was at Williamsport in 2001 when Almonte played. It's a pity some greedy adults took advantage of the kids ruined it all for everyone, including Danny.
I'm not sure he could hit 80 when he was 17 let alone 7.
Never say never. Fan-chen-jun from Tapei clocked in at 82mph this year.
@MJH-Baseball my homeboy Landon throws eighty plus down here in Houston
Unfortunately my local league was bambino, and not sanctioned little league. When I was 11 there was a 6 ft plus 12 yr old who threw over 80 that I faced one game from 46 ft. It was absolutely unhittable.
I don't believe there were guys 50+ years ago throwing faster than Chapman. The training/competition/mechanics are significantly more advanced. Seems much more likely that the measurements then were simply inaccurate (or the conversion to release velo is off).
Or those guys were freaks. I don't believe most of the pitchers of those eras threw that hard like that though.
I be throwing that too, the distance from the pitcher to home plate is too close.
Back in 1978, we faced a flamethrower who looked like a NFL linebacker. Dude supposedly threw 80+ mph. Was a bit intimidating.
Jeff Allison from Peabody threw 86 at 13 from 60’ 6” and 98 his sr. year. I wonder what he threw in LL lol.
My buddy Lenny Keunert was the greatest 12 year old to ever play and I will die on that hill. Lenny was an LSU commit in 8th grade and sat 81-84 when we were 12
Prepare to die. I saw Bryce Harper play a USSA tournament when he was 12. He threw 82, and went 13 for 13 with 12 homers and a double.
@@bigtalk2598 I would say only 10-20 twelve year olds ever have been on that level, Lenny and Bryce are definitely 2
14 year old dominicans throwing gas: sigh if only i could go in the llws
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Vonn Fe'ao in 2005 Little League World Series.
He was a good cricket player too
Where did you find the footage of his 83 mph pitch in Little League?
What was Cody Webster pitching speed in 1982 for Kirkland Washington?
It'll be discounted in future stats because of the new age limit
That catcher is almost as impressing as the pitcher
That catcher dropped every pitch and could barely block
I would have stole a base from him on every loose ball. I'd be feeling pretty comfortable getting to 3rd if I got on 1st.
Holy crap that kid throws hard...
I remember facing a pitcher in little league who threw 80 MPH, The coach took us to the batting cages and we hit 80MPH balls. I hit the second pitch from this guy so hard but in the late 60's they didn't have the little fences they have now, would have been an easy home run, but it was just a long fly ball. Still pisses me off to this day...
So you had someone timing pitches in LL in the 60's ??...Hmmmm That's when I played & I don't even recall that technology being available, & certainly not in LL.
@@safromnc8616 So, they removed my comment to you. You do understand that the speed of a baseball has been estimated with reasonable accuracy for years before the radar gun ? I can tell you, when you are standing in the batters box and an 80MPH pitch comes in, you know it pal...
I caught for a kid when I was 13 that threw like this... It's different seeing that as a kid!
MJH, in my little league, there is a kid throwing 80 MPH at 12. Hopefully they can make it past. It comes out of peachtree city little league I know that is familiar to you.
SC coaches mismanaged Alex pitch count. He should have been available against Pennsylvania. Crazy talent that year with Alex and Cole Wagner.
It was later determined the pitcher was actually 25 years old.
We had a 10 year old throwing 75 mph from a 42’ mound. Not sure what that equates to in MLB distances, but the kid had a .000 ERA for the season. He developed elbow issues by age 12 and no longer pitches at age 16, but he’s still a good player.
LOL
I was among the African team representing the Europe and African team that played in LLWS 2015.
Alex really had smoke on those pitches.
Sweet
I have a friend who is 13 that throws 83 from 54 or 60ft I can’t remember
Alex Edmonson is pitching for Auburn now.
2023 state @Coastal Carolina 15IP 13.80 ERA
just remember : accuracy over velocity
Bro the kid diving and catching the ball in the begging is from my little league. The age before me
Really. Then what's his name? If you know that...I will believe you.
Throw heat!
I play 11u and today we faced a 10yo throwing 79mph! We clocked him in the stands
It's Carlos from the bench warmers
Kid wound up bombing out in Clemson… over 13 era, 2 strike outs…
Geez thats my high school pitch speed, now that I think about it 2 years isnt much of a difference.
Why does he make 80mph looks so effortless