Showcasing the ESTJ: Allan 💗
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- Опубликовано: 23 сен 2024
- An exhibition of the straightforward ESTJ personality type as well as the Socionics duality relationship! An INFP interviews Allan, who uses dominant extraverted thinking, auxiliary introverted sensing, tertiary extraverted intuition and inferior introverted feeling.
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Guys, having an E in his type name doesn’t mean he’s loud or social or loves being on camera. It means he leads with an extroverted function. That’s it. Te doesn’t mean being a f**king dictator bawse. It means constantly optimizing and looking for the best way to do everything. Effectiveness is the priority, not necessarily social extroversion.
I appreciate the intensity of this comment. Lol
One of the underestimated effect of extraverted thinking is that it can lead you to be insecure about what other people may think of you. Like, oh, if I do this, people will think like this. If I do that, people will think of me like that. It can actually lead to social anxiety that you can't help, because tribe validation acts like a drug here. People seem to think that having a dominant Te will automatically make our thoughts in line with the tribe, which is mostly not the case.
The phrase "I don't give a sht about what other people think" and proceeds to cry about it at home is such an ExTJ trait, not so much IxFP like the memes want you to believe. IxFP wouldn't care about saying such thing and just do weird stuff in public all the time without caring at all, until maybe 6 months later when one of their friends told them that people think they're weird.
@@isabella16939 just to correct, people are not weird if doing things in public that they want in that moment. Let's normalise that
I'm dying at how he immediately answers these questions.
XUAN玄 It’s adorable how some of his answers is her.
That "okay honey" made me laugh! because I'm with an INFP and I know what that really means, e.g. "I disagree with you, but it's not a big enough deal to make an issue of it right now" or "I disagree with you, but I don't feel like being confrontational right now" or "I disagree with you, but it's not a big enough issue to argue about". ;)
You see? We INFPs have the power of melting ESTJs hearts... Or proving that they have one... Whatever!
ESTJ: "Are you kidding me again, honey? Of course I have a heart, it bombs the blood which it's very hot too etc" XD
Yes 🤣
ESTJ "pets" INFP. I can't think of any other type coupling that enjoys the "petting" dynamic as much as this one.
🥺
Istj and infp too
I get kinda annoyed that INFP forums are sometimes filled with a lot of ESTJ hate. Every INFP should talk to at least one ESTJ to dispell some internalized myths. I have an ESTJ penpal now and she's so easy to talk to.
True. I really annoyed reading these close-minded comment.
@@renwannabe3237 What is close minded is assuming that those INFPs just pulled their aversion towards ESTJs just out of their asses. When an infp truly HATES someone there is always a very good reason for it. We are not hateful people.
@@ihmasAnna still wouldn't make sense to hate all ESTJs just because you have bad experience with some of them. That's very biased and not fair for them, judge the individuals, not their whole type. And for the record i'm an INFP too.
That's because she's not an Infp. She's an Isfp. Isfps are compatible with Estjs but Infps it's the worst pairing.
@Solo Seraph Leah This is so based on stereotypes it's unreal.
I can say the same thing and say INFPs are lazy, idealistic, and completely impractical. Is any of this true? No besides a leaning into idealism.
As an ESTJ several of my best friends are INFPs we get along great but that's because we're actually healthy people.
Awww. My parents are also an INFP/ESTJ combo. Growing up I saw a lot of ways they clash but overall they really complement each other well. They’ve been married 40 years now. ❤️
I loved this! I'm also an infp with an estj boyfriend. This pairing gets a bad rep but I personally believe that when both partners mature, the experience of being together can feel like opposite sides of the same coin ❤
Earther Witch ASMR YES same here. He drives me crazy but the more I mature, the more I appreciate him.
He's passionate about you, thats cute!
Holy cow! I am also INFP and my boyfriend also ESTJ. And the most shocking one is his name also Allan! How?!?!?!
coincidance
I hope your name is not callypso
@@rickyhadrian5165 orang indo namanya pasti bukan calypso
I bet your name is Karen
it's very interesting to see how many duality relationships can go extremely good or extremely bad from my experience , happy for you guys and great video :)
ENFJ
I'm an infp and I have an estj best friend. I love her, and I'm very happy I met her because at the time we were both extremely lonely and had been left by a lot of people. We've been friends for 4 years now, and while I'm glad to have her as a friend I can't spend toomuch time with her. I have a desperate need for people to acknowledge my feelings and at least try to understand them, but she never even tries, she only shrugs or laughs at me, which makes me feel very bad. She's very close-minded too, which is extremely frustrating. She believes the way she views the world is the only right way, and laughs at me if I disagree, as if I'm stupid. This was a lot of negative things, she is the most loyal friend I've ever had and I know I can depend on her, she's got my back.
ESTJ are mostly loyal but I don't think they are a good match for us INFP
Ya,I have one friend like that .she's also behave like that .I wish she will behave kind to other people. 😑
He is such an ESTJ this is so weird he reminds me so much of this guy friend I kinda like
That Te affirmation though
Why did Alex leave the channel? I miss both of you together.
I don't know. I miss her more than anyone :( She alive though.
@@CasualCognition oof, sounds like there's a story behind this. I hope you guys are okay, and really.. it would be awesome if she decided to come back.
@@CasualCognition Willl the channel remain to have it's name?
@@PowerRedBullTypology I suggest INTJ & INFP tea. It is healthier.
Alex left the channel?! WHHHHHHYYYYYYYYY? :(
SHE'S BLUSHING Aajshfj CUTE COUPLE
You guys are super cute together. You complement each other very well 👌❤❤
Reminds me of my ISTJ boss. He seems more I than E but whatever. Istj's crack me up. I don't know faster decision makers, and they are usually on point.
@JB Indeed. Being 'introverted' doesn't even make you an introvert...it's the dominant function. I'm pretty textbook ENTP but Im sure my family would have branded me introverted when I was younger.
He reminds me of my istj brother. Kind of deadpan sense of humor and is also a gamer
Rickus Kruger nah, I’m a real ISTJ. Check my channel out!
The two of you should have a double RUclips conversation with my sister (EII) and her boyfriend (LSE). The similarities are uncanny.
@@Human-mt3nu - First of all, thank you for holding me to account with your disagreement.
I will explain what caused me to post this comment:
I see someone identifying themselves as an INFP, presenting an ESTJ boyfriend, then proceeding to display that are very similar to my EII sister when with her LSE boyfriend (people I have good reasons to think are the types they say they are).
I have not yet scrutinised Calypso's self-identified type, and as such, regrettably I do not have an argument to respond to you with. She could very well be, as you say, an Fe-ego type. In which case, I have been careless and you did me a service by pointing this out. Others on my Facebook group have similarly made such comment.
What I will do is find some time to watch through her videos with scrutiny and either come back to you with a rebuttal, or I will come back with a changed mind.
Meanwhile, I would like you to do three things for me:
1) Try not to rely too much on Beskova's profiles which are too behaviouralist and limited to Russian men and women in the late 20th century (Beskova also has an appallingly dodgy method of typing people which is primarily VI, but when typing actors will go as far as to type their physicality even while playing a character in a film).
2) Please tell me who you are because I have no idea, and you've clearly been putting a lot of time into looking into Socionics to challenge me in the way that you have.
3) I would like you to apply to join my Diagnostics Team. This will involve a written analysis of a famous figure. Email me to get in touch for any further information.
I can see how you balance eachother out!.
He and the ISTP have a very staccato way of talking. Like constant pauses in between groups of words instead of continuous flow of speech. Calypso has a constant flow of speech. ISTJ next please? :)
The Estj and Istp each other's number one matches ...
I, an INFP female, took a test and found out my best match is an ESTJ male. Least expected by me, don’t even know any ESTJ personally. Glad to know so many of the you guys are together!
I approve this message.
As a fellow infp, a good head rub is all i desire 🤧
wooow
like... wow
as an INFP, and having an ESTJ mom, I could never imagine dating an ESTJ, but now I'm reading a bunch of stories about this pairing and this is... surprisingly cute?? It's nice to see how "polar opposites" can work on a relationship and end up complimenting each other. congrats on the relationship!!
That is so CUTE!! It's so cute how he pets you on the head haha I would die. SO CUTE
No...it's patronising and not cute at all
I think it's just ESTJ's like to pet others, and INFP's like to be pet. I had an INFP stay w/me for awhile, and he would ask girls to pet him. I told him to pls just put a sock on the door.
This type seems to bring out interesting behaviors in others, anyway.
I'm ENTP, so when anything bad happened, i was ok w/giving him a hug, and pats on the back - which he prolly thought was adequate petting. I found myself saying, "Yeah, tragic irony really does suck, huh?" 😦
ESTJ's really know how to manage others, tho. They know petting isn't the way to the ENTP heart. They also know when to tell an ENTP, "Slow down, Ace - you're getting ahead of yourself!" and, "Leave the troll alone - we got stuff to do today!"
It’s soooo cute 😙
Thank you so much for making this video. I am that INFP man you are speculating about. I've taken to calling myself demigender just to get societies expectations off my ass, to quiet the 'men are this, women are that' balderdash.
In my book, this is A++ content. Please keep it up.
As an infp, this seems like a very challenging combination
@Ken Thomas Not everyone has to agree with you... I know estjs and I don't find them appealling at all in a romantic sense, but that obviously doesn't mean it can't work for others :)
@@Nadeshda44 which type do you find attractive?
@@PowerRedBullTypology I'm definitely most attracted to enfps
@@Nadeshda44 so ...you're an INFP and like ENFP's most?
@@PowerRedBullTypology I said I find them most attractive
when you describe him it’s so much me i’m shocked. so many characteristics that i didn’t know i had.... wild.
I noticed that on that last question you two initially conceptualized things differently. He kept his gender and switched his type, imagining himself as a male INFP. You (Calypso) kept your type and switched genders, imagining yourself as a male INFP also. So Interesting.
nice to see, you are nice together he a keeper (as are you). ARRRRRRRRRGGGGGGHHHH come back Alex!!
What makes you so happy INFP. You always laugh_ another INFP
Văn Lộc Trần Agreed. As a well developed INFP, I’ve found myself much happier with similar personality types. Others tend to work as energy vampires toward giving and freedom types, and they don’t understand why we behave as we do.
ESTJ’s Where you at?
I must have missed the memo... Cause where really has Alex gone? She hasn't left the channel permanently has she?
That’s cool cuz I love estjs but I highly doubted I could get in a relationship with one since I’m an infp and they seemed like polar opposites
We're opposite in a way but cognitively I'd say ESTP is the polar opposite of INFP.
INTJ & INFP Coffee oh yeah I know I’m just saying they seem very different from each other. cuz infps have Fi which means they’re more emotional than most and even though I said i love estjs (which I do), I know they can be....blunt to say the least. not as blunt as estps and entps tho
"Because I can." BOSS!
I just found out my childhood crush is an ESTJ. I'm an infp n trust me he gets me and he fooking enlighten me Everytime we sit down n have a convo
I would think that Se doms would pick up new games and skill quickly, and thus learn the ideas associated with them faster. that doesn't mean they have stronger Ne, because its a different kinds of learning: Se starts with the concrete and Ne starts from the abstract. If Allen had to use his imagination to understand the game first, he probably wouldn't pick them up quickly, if at all. A strong Ne dom could talk about the game or watching the game to understand it, and if they had a strong Si, they could perhaps even play a simulation of the game in their mind.
I'm dating an estj too. And the 10000 subscriber status means a lot to an estj. All estj's are hopelessly status driven
Estj's are so funny.
How did the two of you meet and get together, since you both have such different interests and realms of competency? Who initiated things?
He asked me out through a dating app ^-^
You guys are really cute together. :) Do you / does Allan know his Enneagram type?
Thanks :) I don't know! Thought about it before but not sure which one fits. I feel like 8 is probably in there somewhere. Maybe I should ask him to take a test.
He seems to have a combination of 1 and 3 I think. Lots of competency triad stuff there.
The last part around 18 mins sounds very STJ to me? The part where he says stereotypes could fit sometimes/some people but meh to it, and it isn’t an end all be all thing. Not sure if it’s because SJs receiver the worst rep on the internet in the MBTI community that we tend to say things like that, or if it’s an SJ thing to say in general.
I have a video series idea for you! Interview of mbti couples! There are so so many people interested in how different personalities work together and it's more entertaining
I would do a video of me and my husband sounds fun
If anything saves my relationship, it’s this! ENFP with ESTJ
Estj and INFP are conflicting relationships. ESTJ and INFJ are duaks
He look more like istj
JKE Manga nah, I’m a real ISTJ check my channel out!
Can you please explain what does it mean you compare your life with art (maybe with an example)?
Art used broadly to contain entertainment. It's like having a clumsy moment and thinking it's an "anime-like" moment. Basically narrativizing my life in my head.
@@CasualCognition Oh that makes sense, I get it now thanks. I think I do that sometimes too.
What's his enneagram
03:24 Allan's expression reminds me of the famous scene from The Shining
I'm an estj female my friend is infp female, and that patting head is REALLLYYYY FACT. I'd like to pat her had sooooo badddd, cause she's very cute unlike me :)
I'm an INFP and I'm still learning about MBTI. When I first read about ESTJs I didn't really like them... When people talk about them they seem very bossy and close minded, which is something that I don't like at all (I guess as the majority of INFPs). I also didn't really like xSxx in general... All my friends are NFs or at least some sort of xNxx. My bestfriend is also an INFP and my other two closest friends are ENFP and INFJ. My sister, who I'm really close to, is an ENTP, my dad is an INFJ; so things kinda move around like that. It was until I asked my male bestfriend to take the test. I thought he would be probably a ENFJ(I didn't really thought that, this is what I wanted him to be because I had a crush on him not a long time ago and if he was a ENFJ it would make sense why i liked him so much) cause he seemed like a more extroverted and organized version of my INFP bestfriend or at least some sort of ENTJ, but he was an ESTJ. I guess he is my only sensor friend, but it doesn't bother me as I thought it would. I guess the fact that we are opposites it's what makes our friendship so cool, cause he's really different from anyone I know and I can always learn something new with the way he thinks about stuff. He is just not that good at having hypothetical conversations, but we always find something to talk about. He is also very funny and actually open minded!
This is something I wrote after watching this video on February 1st. Since that I've been learning a lot about MBTI and I know that I was very mistaken in thinking like that but I still felt like sharing this to show people that no one is actually that bad and also that it's not because you're a certain type that you need to behave in a certain way. I guess that I thought I didn't like sensors because there's this prejudice that they're not as profound as intuitives and that they can't be very abstract or use they're brains in general but this is SO WRONG! I still have a lot to learn about sensors but at least now I understand that this is bullshit. And I've been also learning about cognitive functions and I know I can't just say that he is an ENFJ just because he is a bit more organized and extroverted LOL Now I just think that he had a lot of Te (ESTJs have Te dom!) and since it is my inferior function he looked very attractive LOL I guess that in the end what made we get along so well was because after all we use the same functions but in different proportions; we weren't total opposites. Anyways, I think a lot but yeah .-.
ok... if you're going to let us into the mind of your man... using those jump cuts every 1-3 seconds in his answers and splicing them together makes it seems like he communicates in a completely different then way he actually does... the interpersonal dynamic would be better portrayed if you did the opposite and only showed the cuts of him making determinations and selecting appropriate words while you shift through dozens or hundreds of microexpressions a second while waiting for him to finish a sentence xD
How cute you two found each other and you're in a Duality relationship.
EDIT: 17:00 well maybe if your life was hard as a Fi dom you'd rise to the occasion and become emotionally/mentally stronger. I'm Fi tertiary and I've found my Fi gets stronger the more my mushy inner feelings get hurt by society, which forces me to deal with them.
They are opposites
Congrats on 10k subs I think I'll add myself to that list right now.
PS: The MBTI identified me as an As Sh Ol E what should I do?
U guys look super cute together
Omg ESTJ 😱
interesting ... will u ever upload any videos on voice tone typing??
So cute, aaaaaaah!
Omg she's sooooo adorable 😍😍😍ENFP
You both are so cute together! 😆😆😆
I love ESTJ-INFJ
how is he an estj? he seems like an isfp to me
Like ISTP
lol you think hes a FP. LOL!!!
Beautiful couple ❤️🔥
So cute :D
3:44 It might just apply to other quadrants aside from the delta especially beta. I can us not being on the same page fairly easily. The more we know the better.
Ok why is this is so cute
She seems like an ENFP for some reason.. I wonder how many people have been mistyped, or mistyped themselves… loads of people, probably.
Nah she's definitely INFP. just sp6 INFPs are more talkative
After watching your vlogs you make me feel you could be Enfp. Or mm maybe esfp, but prob more ENFP! You come over inquisitive, cute and bubbly, and very much a feeler. xx
Her Si is too good to be an ENFP.
INFP me,ESTJ my Husband 🤣😂
So cute together :)
Who are usually more SOCIALLY introverted, ESTJ or ENTJ?
Really just depends on the person.
@@mkultraizzy which is why I said "usually".
@@caffemocca8855 you cant really get an accurate statistic on that given you would need all of the extj's on earth, and then count them and see where both type fall on the introverted extroverted spectrum. Not really worth it if you ask me
@@mkultraizzy lol we don't need to collect all individuals data to make a generalization, otherwise, all social science research and surveys are false because they only take sample from population. That's how they knew approximate population of each MBTI types.
Ok I agree that in something like mbti, making a generalization is more apropos than attempting to know purely objectively so I apologize, however you structured your question in such a way that seemed as if you wanted to collectively include all extj's, as oppose to just a general population of them, and also if you're attempting to know the general introversion/extroversion spectrum of extj's, since you were asking Calypso, I could be wrong but I assume you live different areas, therefore rendering the statistic you would be to recieve from Calypso useless, however I dont know if you do live in a different area then Calypso so once again, I could be wrong.
I love that :)
Hey smile is too cute
Your dual!!!
Apparently your boyfriend's personality type is the ideal type for my ISTP personality ......
Seriously, you date a ESTJ?? That's tough no? xD
Diana Days the STJ x NFP convo can be very good especially long term if both are healthy types. I like and appreciate STJ’s as an infp even though there can be some VERY difficult bumps lol
I don’t clash as much with them as STP types though 😆
Yeah I think he's an intj actually.....
he is cute. when I imagine an ESTJ, i can never imagine them as cute and that's why stereotypes are BS
if he's indeed LSE seems Harmonizing sub :)
I love estj (infp)
Are you guys still dating?
Is it just me who is getting an istp vibe of him?
Haha good thing he didn't talk about his hobbies, otherwise you'd really think ISTP.
Im an ESTJ but people have mistaken me for an ISTP, i also identify more with the ISTP stereotype. i wonder if it has something to do with maturing our shadow functions as we get older.
@@CasualCognition what are his hobbies? mechanics/electronics?
He does like electronics/tech. Like keeping up to date and buying gadgets I've never heard of. Usually fixes his own things. Built his own computer. Likes nature and what I consider intense physical activity (motorcycle, fencing, go kart etc.)
@@CasualCognition I have ISTJ parents. And my dad is all about that fix-em-up ultimate scavenger persona. He might be a bit more closed off and less Ne adjustable though.
wow infp and estj... polar opposites
Te!
The Myers-Briggs-Test is about as credible as astrology.
That’s why she doesn’t use it
He looks to me like an INTJ.. or INFJ.. but I’m not sure…
He doesn’t look like ESTJs I know…
I still prefer Simon the INTJ no offense but Alan seems a bit dry and incompatible. I think there was better chemistry with Simon even though he was quite shy.
Alex needs to come back :/
He's not estj lol he is an Se-Ni how he says that he brings your ideas into reality
He seems like an intj more than estj, I know many estjs and they don't have much in common
Not going to end well. BTW I am an INFP with an ESTJ husband (18 years on 6-16-19) Eventually you'll feel very beat down, dominated, lonely, and emotionally abused while he continues to rub your nose in every mistake you've ever made, but he doesn't mean it that way and you should just get over it. Oh and make sure you worship him as the god he truly is after every beat down because ESTjs like it that way.
Time is an illusion and so is the chain. They are only as real as you let them be. Staying in a place that kills your very soul is a kind of hell that can only get worse as you stray further from your nature just to survive. It's no way to live. I know first hand that outside advice does nothing.
The cold is not just warmth in disguise, warmth is not cold come to get you by surprise. I wish you the best.
I think this is more than his type. There are mature and immature people, selfish and self absorbed. I have one advice. Pray for your husband. Everyday. It will make all the difference. If you are not a follower of Jesus then give your life to Him he cares for you and loves you..you dont have to give up..Ive seen my parents marriage heal and go from very broken to happy and joyful. God can do all things
Such a stereotypical "INFP" comment to make, lol. Such a victim complex. Being a bad person has absolutely nothing to do with your personality type, you understand that right? For example some of the most selfish, mean spirited people I've ever met were ENFP and INFP types, but that doesnt mean all XNFP are bad people, it just means those specific people acted badly. That being said, you'd better get out of that relationship because it sounds very unhealthy
@@FlawlesZMa so basically Jesus is saying to stick with ur abusive husband just because...? lol. Jesus should be letting people know that they have the freedom to leave if they're getting abused because no one deserves that and no one should suffer in that environment just because lmao. whatever it's not like the guy exists anyway :P
I know ESTJ girl and she is such a bitch
You look like an INTP.. partner is INxJ..
Nonsense. Te user talk about logic and, guess what, ESTJ thinking.
Ti is no logic. Logic is thinking thing.
Tl;dr, benefit relations are never fulfilling, especially for the beneficiary
They literally never end well, lmao
first
Allan does not seem ESTJ at all. Not in talking, not in body posture, nada. Defo seems like an introvert as well. Extroverts are hopeless at listening and this guy actually listens to the question and responds.
What a shallow view of the world you have. Very sad. Yes, 50% of the planet (extroverts) are hopelessly bad listeners. That's like saying the other 50% of the world (introverts) are all insanely shy and never leave their house. That makes no sense and you clearly dont know anything about how MBTI actually works.
cool video. by the way he's not an extrovert.
The extroversion and introversion on the Jungian cognitive processes is different from the parlance of general population.
he could prefer si than ne which makes him more introverted
yup could definitely be istj @@helenvarel4426
@@caitsiew9481 he's still not an ESTJ. He's Fe blind
I can see how you'd think he's Fe blind but his Te is definitely stronger than his Si. And although my Ne rambled a lot more than his Te and Si, he's actually more extraverted than me when it comes to life, though he also considers himself introverted socially.
Boooooooobbs
Um
He's an INTJ
Great I'll just convince him to co-host and keep my channel name! /s
if only from this video, I don't see him as ESTJ as well, especially male. Why do you think he's INTJ btw?
@@CasualCognition I sense some passive agressiveness, but I think I'd still prefer you
THOSE BREASTS
Ugh just stfu. Fucking pervert like you ruin INFP girls life
Shut up🤩🤗💕💕💕💕💕💕💕💕💕💕💕