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No plans to review that one currently. They've discontinued it and are launching a Rev 2.0 which will be a bit different, whether we'll look at it depends on price and availability.
Have you noticed that the “aim stabilizer” isn’t actually black frame insertion, but is actually a red frame? I measured it with my phone at 240fps and adjusted exposure to make sure I wasn’t tripping. I legitimately get red frames, and I get red and green streaking in motion. Is this a defect with my particular M27U, or is this something you can see as well? Please measure this as soon as possible and tell me/show results if you can. Thank you!
It's technically neither if you go by the traditional meaning of "black frame insertion" which uses software to insert a black frame. The backlight strobes off then comes back on at a frequency matching the refresh rate of the display. This is covered in the review, as is the slow decay of the KSF (red) phosphors of the backlight which causes the issue. It's very common on wide gamut models with strobe backlights unless they use a QD solution instead to achieve their wide gamut.
@@PCMonitorsThank you for the quick response and thorough information. You’ve definitely earned a follower for that! If I am picking everything up correctly, the red decay is due to the backlight/color filter method, and only a panel without that tech to widen the color gamut, or otherwise a QD-LED panel would not suffer from this when using backlight strobing. Correct me if I am wrong. And if I am looking for a 2K-4K 27-32” panel with high refresh (min 120Hz) and backlight strobing that works with VRR and doesn’t suffer from the red decaying effect, and otherwise has comparable motion response to the M27U out of the box… is there anything you can suggest, or am I eating the feature and maintaining the M27U without the Aim Stabilizer, or otherwise jumping to OLED and nothing in between?
@@waynejr.6763 Your understanding is correct. The BenQ EX3210U comes to mind. It's not quite as responsive as the M27U during 'normal operation', but not bad. And it has a pretty decent strobe backlight implementation plus uses a QD LED backlight. So it avoids the weird red flashes or fringing - pcmonitors.info/reviews/benq-ex3210u/#Responsiveness.
@@PCMonitorsSir. You have made me do a lot of reading and using my brain and I appreciate it. To give you some context, I am upgrading from an Acer XB271HU, which I had gotten a good while ago as an early adopter of Gsync when VRR was rather new to consumer gamers. I had found over a year ago that the benefits of VRR @165Hz which I had paid such a premium for at the time, had not matched the functional value of low motion blur when I used the backlight strobing or “ULMB” at a fixed 120Hz refresh rate. I got the Gigabyte M27U as an upgrade after much speculation of it having both VRR and backlight strobing combined, and that it was over-all an improvement for color accuracy, brightness, color transition response and input delay. Now, I definitely notice all of those benefits, and 4K has a lot of upsides that I now don’t want to concede on, however I was disappointed with both the perceived color artifacts in motion when my eyes would track with Aim Stabilizer on, and how some games would have a noticeable backlight flicker, even with rather consistent higher frame-rates. That said, after reading your review on the BenQ you suggested, I saw you mentioned the flicker could be an issue with that monitor as well. So now I am resolved to find either a high refresh 4K LED panel that can do fixed rate backlight strobing without visible decay artifacts that performs closer in response times to the Gigabyte, or get/wait for a 2K-4K OLED panel that doesn’t have text fringing (such as the Samsung panels using the triangular RGB layout), since the OLED doesn’t require BFI as far as I’m concerned. You’ve afforded more time and effort than most would be willing to shed knowledge. If you don’t have something that immediately comes to mind, I’m gonna run with the current pretense and hunt for the best option. I’m starting to think I should stick with my old panel, even with its limitations, and wait for a 4K LG made OLED that makes all of this squandering irrelevant. I mean, hell, if it’s an OLED I can extend my budget out to $1k~ for all I care… I really am just looking for the best option.
What are u using the custom 1 settings for? just regular use or gaming? I just got this monitor and for me brightness 30 is very dark, i use 60-70. But when play rdr2 on ps5 i felt like i needed to turn it up to 100 or increase black equalizer.
As noted in the video they form the 'Test Settings' which are used in the review. But you need to make your own adjustments according to your own unit and preferences. Especially when it comes to things like brightness, which depends on lighting as well.
using this with my ps5 and when i’m on the settings thingy it only says 60hz, i have hdmi 2.1 on and on the ps5 i’ve also set it to allow 120hz but it still doesn’t change? do you know what i’m doing wrong
Question - Do you have your nvidia desktop color settings at default? I just recently got a m27u and followed the settings you said in this vid and the color just looks way different from what yours looks like.
Yes, they're at default. You're looking at your monitor when watching this video - it isn't an accurate reflection of what I saw in person viewing the screen.
No and most people I've engaged with about this monitor find it comfortable. There are many factors affecting viewing comfort and it's an individual thing - pcmonitors.info/articles/factors-influencing-pc-monitor-viewing-comfort/. It can take a while to adapt to a monitor that's very different to your last one. Reducing brightness as much as possible, regulating lighting environment and ensuring you're using an appropriate level of scaling (if required) is also important.
Push the joystick in and select the top option (Settings). If you need help navigating the menu, refer to manual (www.gigabyte.com/Monitor/M27U/support#support-manual ).
@@michu1924 You use the toggle in Windows or your system. Refer to the review for monitor performance with HDR on vs. off, but it should be obviously which you prefer visually (or due to the settings you can adjust).
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I'm waiting for the review of the gigabyte m27q-x monitor, great video.
No plans to review that one currently. They've discontinued it and are launching a Rev 2.0 which will be a bit different, whether we'll look at it depends on price and availability.
Have you noticed that the “aim stabilizer” isn’t actually black frame insertion, but is actually a red frame?
I measured it with my phone at 240fps and adjusted exposure to make sure I wasn’t tripping.
I legitimately get red frames, and I get red and green streaking in motion.
Is this a defect with my particular M27U, or is this something you can see as well?
Please measure this as soon as possible and tell me/show results if you can. Thank you!
It's technically neither if you go by the traditional meaning of "black frame insertion" which uses software to insert a black frame. The backlight strobes off then comes back on at a frequency matching the refresh rate of the display. This is covered in the review, as is the slow decay of the KSF (red) phosphors of the backlight which causes the issue. It's very common on wide gamut models with strobe backlights unless they use a QD solution instead to achieve their wide gamut.
@@PCMonitorsThank you for the quick response and thorough information.
You’ve definitely earned a follower for that!
If I am picking everything up correctly, the red decay is due to the backlight/color filter method, and only a panel without that tech to widen the color gamut, or otherwise a QD-LED panel would not suffer from this when using backlight strobing.
Correct me if I am wrong.
And if I am looking for a 2K-4K 27-32” panel with high refresh (min 120Hz) and backlight strobing that works with VRR and doesn’t suffer from the red decaying effect, and otherwise has comparable motion response to the M27U out of the box… is there anything you can suggest, or am I eating the feature and maintaining the M27U without the Aim Stabilizer, or otherwise jumping to OLED and nothing in between?
@@waynejr.6763 Your understanding is correct. The BenQ EX3210U comes to mind. It's not quite as responsive as the M27U during 'normal operation', but not bad. And it has a pretty decent strobe backlight implementation plus uses a QD LED backlight. So it avoids the weird red flashes or fringing - pcmonitors.info/reviews/benq-ex3210u/#Responsiveness.
@@PCMonitorsSir. You have made me do a lot of reading and using my brain and I appreciate it.
To give you some context, I am upgrading from an Acer XB271HU, which I had gotten a good while ago as an early adopter of Gsync when VRR was rather new to consumer gamers.
I had found over a year ago that the benefits of VRR @165Hz which I had paid such a premium for at the time, had not matched the functional value of low motion blur when I used the backlight strobing or “ULMB” at a fixed 120Hz refresh rate.
I got the Gigabyte M27U as an upgrade after much speculation of it having both VRR and backlight strobing combined, and that it was over-all an improvement for color accuracy, brightness, color transition response and input delay.
Now, I definitely notice all of those benefits, and 4K has a lot of upsides that I now don’t want to concede on, however I was disappointed with both the perceived color artifacts in motion when my eyes would track with Aim Stabilizer on, and how some games would have a noticeable backlight flicker, even with rather consistent higher frame-rates.
That said, after reading your review on the BenQ you suggested, I saw you mentioned the flicker could be an issue with that monitor as well.
So now I am resolved to find either a high refresh 4K LED panel that can do fixed rate backlight strobing without visible decay artifacts that performs closer in response times to the Gigabyte,
or get/wait for a 2K-4K OLED panel that doesn’t have text fringing (such as the Samsung panels using the triangular RGB layout), since the OLED doesn’t require BFI as far as I’m concerned.
You’ve afforded more time and effort than most would be willing to shed knowledge.
If you don’t have something that immediately comes to mind, I’m gonna run with the current pretense and hunt for the best option.
I’m starting to think I should stick with my old panel, even with its limitations, and wait for a 4K LG made OLED that makes all of this squandering irrelevant.
I mean, hell, if it’s an OLED I can extend my budget out to $1k~ for all I care… I really am just looking for the best option.
What are u using the custom 1 settings for? just regular use or gaming? I just got this monitor and for me brightness 30 is very dark, i use 60-70. But when play rdr2 on ps5 i felt like i needed to turn it up to 100 or increase black equalizer.
As noted in the video they form the 'Test Settings' which are used in the review. But you need to make your own adjustments according to your own unit and preferences. Especially when it comes to things like brightness, which depends on lighting as well.
How did you adjust picture settings with hdr on? Mine is grayed out
You mean you don't see 3 different HDR presets?
I do not.. @@PCMonitors
@@kosiiv Is this definitely the M27U you have?
I got the same problem did you find a fix yet?
using this with my ps5 and when i’m on the settings thingy it only says 60hz, i have hdmi 2.1 on and on the ps5 i’ve also set it to allow 120hz but it still doesn’t change? do you know what i’m doing wrong
Only certain games support 120Hz. The system menus and quite a few games will only run at 60Hz on the PS5.
@@PCMonitors okay ty
Question - Do you have your nvidia desktop color settings at default? I just recently got a m27u and followed the settings you said in this vid and the color just looks way different from what yours looks like.
Yes, they're at default. You're looking at your monitor when watching this video - it isn't an accurate reflection of what I saw in person viewing the screen.
Did you struggle with eye strain atal? I have been struggling with eye strain while using the monitor recently
No and most people I've engaged with about this monitor find it comfortable. There are many factors affecting viewing comfort and it's an individual thing - pcmonitors.info/articles/factors-influencing-pc-monitor-viewing-comfort/. It can take a while to adapt to a monitor that's very different to your last one. Reducing brightness as much as possible, regulating lighting environment and ensuring you're using an appropriate level of scaling (if required) is also important.
Would these setting also work with the gigabyte g24f2?
Well you can try them and see how they look, but it's a completely different monitor.
Will you be doing a best settings video for the g24f2 anytime in the future by any chance?
No, that's not a model I've reviewed or plan to review.
im using ps5 and MacBook Pro with mine. how do I switch to SDR I cannot figure it out.
You need to switch HDR off on the system, the monitor will only display SDR if it's fed an SDR signal.
why wont my gigabyte control center work and it gives me a code
Consegue colocar as configurações digitadas ?
Eles são encontrados em ‘Configurações de teste’ na revisão - pcmonitors.info/reviews/gigabyte-m27u/#Calibration.
How do I enable VRR for my PlayStation 5? Keeps saying not supported on this monitor! But I know it is supported so confused
you need to enable HDMI 2.1 on the monitor under HDMI
@@ramboplaya96 how do I do that?
@@rojglo can you give me your model name from the monitor?
@@ramboplaya96 gigabyte m27q
@@rojglo You only have HDMI 2.0, so you can't use ALLM etc. You need HDMI 2.1 and for that you need Gigabyte m28u for example
how do you pull up that menu that my question
Push the joystick in and select the top option (Settings). If you need help navigating the menu, refer to manual (www.gigabyte.com/Monitor/M27U/support#support-manual ).
Why option Picture is unavailable on my monitor??
Perhaps you're running in HDR?
@@PCMonitors how to turn it off? Is it good having HDR or better to turn off?
@@michu1924 You use the toggle in Windows or your system. Refer to the review for monitor performance with HDR on vs. off, but it should be obviously which you prefer visually (or due to the settings you can adjust).
@@PCMonitors so how can I turn off HDR? I'm using monitor to PS5
@@michu1924 Like I said - on your system. I don't use the PS5 but its easy to use Google to find how to do so.
HDR looks terrible on mine.
Same I turned it off
Yes same ! Compared to my lg c2 oled it's such a huge difference also, the back-light during night while gaming is horrendous