for anyone concerned about air in the loop, those visible tubes on the top aren't even connected to the watercooling, those seem to be purely for show, at 11:10 you can see that the cooling block is connected directly to the radiator, with the actual cooling pump probably inside the block
That's good news but also kinda dumb that it's all for show. Would really like to have a way to keep an eye on the fluid in the loop to make sure there isn't any sediment and to monitor the flow since I don't see a flow rate indicator at all.
@@theduck17 sediment doesn't get into a loop magically. If it was clean when it was built, it will stay clean forever... and your cpu will gladly tell you when the pump fails!
@@rawhide_kobayashi not necessary...if they didn't flush the rads well or if the fluid begins to go bad because they didn't use enough biocide. I used clear cryofuel and had gunk in my radiator in a year and I flushed my system really well beforehand.
@@chrismay2298 OK say someone wanted a similarly speced PC to complement their living room gaming on a TV and for general media use (not office use) what would be a good alternative in terms of performance and heat dissipation ?. It is certainly much quieter than a typical gaming laptop & you are not paying for the screen you don't want. The general Mini-PC's I see have much lower spec than this has.
I was just about to ask, how are you supposed to clean the rad/fan or replace the fan if needed... I mean... I clean my rad/fans ever three months and that is defo something that would put me off buying such a device, it's an impressive little beast but seems a little flawed.
It is absolutely a staggering fear of engineering, but it's purely a novelty. I'm fairly sure most people could put together a comparable itx system that would have a similar footprint for much cheaper.
Depends on the bios. Dell really fked them up. I couldn't even upgrade from gtx 560m to gtx 660m. On the first gen M series I was able to install a gtx 280m to replace the gt240 but I had to flash it as a 8800. Dell took over after the R1 series so the R2's were lots of plastic and locked down.
I love how Dawid cares about aesthetics and cleanliness of his studio, at least parts in shots. This is one of the things that makes or breaks it for me regarding my attention to tech channels.
This has to be one of the absolute coolest mini pc builds or even "prebuilt" PCs that Dawid has ever reviewed. I hope there are more of these to come because this is an awesome concept
@@FAL87 I do agree, that is a crazy amount of air. If it's not on purpose then it is a bad design, because nothing is acting as a reservoir to bleed the air out, it just circulates it all around, it never got better as the system ran.
I wonder if all the air in that loop was the reason for the heat spike because once the pump starts up it looks like someone put seltzer water in there and those bubbles will get caught on the heat sinks micro fins and not transfer the heat.
I would have expected the radiator they chose to act as a sort of reservoir. Some gave extra space at the top to trap air, especially in AIOs. If it could do that effectively it actually looks like a pretty good layout, with a semi-res at the top and the pump at the bottom.
for 1800 you can probably build a mini itx system that is upgradable and serviceable... this one has poor thermals for being watercooled, air in the loop, cant even get inside to clean the fans, and that backpanel is also doing the airflow choking in the onlyfan in the system.
Easily, but it would be twice that size at best. I agree that it is silly and not for most people, but for that amount of performance in such a tiny package, it is impressive.
This is like a modern baseline version of the cow print dells or the huge aerospace company commercial/industrial business laptops which weren't called laptops and had mini tablets personal organizers
This thing is insane! The build quality and design are impressive. And it looks super difficult to put together. I wonder how much it'll cost and how many they'll make?
that REALLY WAS a VERY COOL engineering job! The machine was pretty sweet in the performance department too, but I'm more fascinated with the desig7n that was put into it... THANK YOU FOR SUCH A COOL VIDEO DAWID!
Kinda neat but I think I'll stick with my much less expensive, much easier to work on standard desktop pc. Love that you're willing to risk breaking it trying to get inside it so we can see the internals. Fascinating stuff.
Great engineering and it looks the part, this would be more down to what someone wants their PC looking like and versatility because the small form factor vs how it performs vs price. I love the look of it
Honestly, that little PC is friggin SWEET! I mean, if you have extra money to throw around, it would definitely be a cool little desk-topper item to have in your home.
@@jasonstalder5208 I didn’t say it was a good use of money, I said “if you have extra money to throw around”. Clearly “throw around” implies you are rich enough to be frivolous, and spend on stupid things lol
@@jasonstalder5208 Well.. a decent minipc case/psu/wb is going to cost you what? 300. Ram/HD another 200 mb/cpu 500 gpu 300.. and it would all be the vanilla variants I'd say the 400 markup is reasonable.
Genuinely the most exciting system that I've seen in a long time. Going to be swapping my laptop for a Chromebook and a desktop system. Was planning on building my own, but this thing is just so cool.. Hope that air visible in the loop isn't why temps are so high.
Pretty cool, but for $1799 you can build a Ryzen 5 7500F, 4070 TI Super Mini-ITX PC. I guess if you're a creator, need a good CPU for workloads, game a little on the side and also like the unique look it could be a good buy. For a gamer I wouldn't recommend it, the 4070 TI Super build I mentioned would be twice as fast in most games.
naw a creator is gonna want a laptop or something probably and you can basically get one with the same specs as this machine for the same price, with similar temp performance..... this machine looks cool but makes zero paper sense
@@rustler08True. But the 4080 laptop GPU is actually the same as the 4070 TI (non super) desktop chip with a lower powerlimit. So quite a bit slower than a 4070 TI Super.
I know nothing about gaming never played a computer game before or any since the Nintendo 64 but this looks mini to me. This is the first computer I’ve seen that I really want. I hope performs as good as it looks.
It doesn't. Just build an ITX system for a little over half the price, get better performance and at least be able to clean it. This thing is an overpriced gimmick.
@@chrismay2298 you might as well be speaking a foreign language lol I know what none of that means. When comes to this stuff there’s nobody dummer than I.
🤣 my man @0:21 that hiccup shook your entire house, I felt it! Good on you being able to poke fun at yourself, you can't be confident without being comfortable. *Also, just wanted to say I'm loving the content. I just stumbled upon your channel one day as a recommended video and I've been coming back ever since. Keep up the good work! I know it's not easy to make, produce, and edit these videos, great job!
There is a distinct lack of ventilation, the liquid loop MIGHT be able to bruteforce it to "acceptable" temperatures, but I'm guessing it could be waaaaaay better.
And after the video, not have easy access to the fan and rad for cleaning on top of sub-par ventilation means that these are going to start overheating badly in the future.
I guessed that this system would come in at $2,000. I was actually over by $100. But I was blown away by the MXM card. This is an extremely well engineered PC. Worth the price. Just wish we could see inside the case. Want to add a fan at the top.
In my opinion, with the engineering and thought that's went into this thing, it's well worth the money. Well I would say this... If they provided a convenient way to clean it. Even some dust filters shoved in a gap would do.
For valid temperatures you should have tilted the PC while have it running just to get the air completely out of the loop but into the top of the radiator (where it can sit until it does of old age).
Tecno is actually a B-list smartphone brand (sister brand of Infinix, both brands are well known in the Middle East, Africa and South America mainly). They are branching out quite a bit here.
The perfect usecase for such a double- sided waterblock. Almost like the one LTT sold off :) Good design, I think the 4060 is also the mobile version like the CPU. It has nice packaging, of course the little 120mm radiator and fan can get quite hot but its not like a normal laptop that screams its fans out to keep under 90C. And of course they need to make it easier to clean the radiator, dust is gonna get in there and lower its efficiency over time. Also the loop seems to have alot of air in there, a fillport on top of the radiator would have been better to manage that. The pump is probably very cheap too...
nice mono block, not that's it's new or anything but it's cool to see this being adopted. if not for aesthetic they could shrink the whole case even further
A very impressive little system, sure it's expensive but given it's size, cooling ability and it's overall uniqueness it warrants a high premium. The only thing that I noticed was there appeared to be air trapped in the loop.
I think the person who doesn't mind spending so much extra for that form factor, is the sort of person who has a room big enough to where that form factor wouldn't be needed/would look silly.
Time to install that 4060 MXM module in devices it was never intended for.
Yes!
that mxm is the gold nugget in the system. i think any mxm gpus are hard to find, let alone new models like this
This is meant for the guy who installs steam OS on devices it was never intended for LMAO
He made a video with some laptops that support these cards... It would cool to see if they can be upgraded with this GPU
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for anyone concerned about air in the loop, those visible tubes on the top aren't even connected to the watercooling, those seem to be purely for show, at 11:10 you can see that the cooling block is connected directly to the radiator, with the actual cooling pump probably inside the block
I was worried about that but also about the extremely sharp bends in those tubes. Glad to read that they aren't actually part of the loop.
That's good news but also kinda dumb that it's all for show. Would really like to have a way to keep an eye on the fluid in the loop to make sure there isn't any sediment and to monitor the flow since I don't see a flow rate indicator at all.
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@@theduck17 sediment doesn't get into a loop magically. If it was clean when it was built, it will stay clean forever... and your cpu will gladly tell you when the pump fails!
@@rawhide_kobayashi not necessary...if they didn't flush the rads well or if the fluid begins to go bad because they didn't use enough biocide. I used clear cryofuel and had gunk in my radiator in a year and I flushed my system really well beforehand.
Jesus , the balls to take that engineering marvel apart. I wouldn't
Right?
That's why he's Dawid, and we're are just...well...we! 😅
It's half fake...
The air filled loops are for show.
Never has a RUclips video triggered anxiety like watching this teardown. Well done mate.
yes thank you!
I love how GEEKOM exploded onto the scene and I'm curious how the temps would do with some PTM7950 and Upsiren Ultra 🤔
Holly crap the Greatest Technician ever commented
This thing is pure landfill. You buy a 1200€ gaming laptop with not functioning watercooling for 1800€.
Wow! Laptop performance with all the convenience of a desktop PC, for only the low, low price of both. What a great value proposition!
Not only that, probably the most ineffective application of liquid cooling I've seen in a couple of decades.
Yeah "convenience" ...
Kudos to Dawid for managing to reassemble it back in working order.
Also kudos to Geekom, this is quite the engineering effort they put there!
How do you know that it is working again? egpu-part was made before the teardown...
It is definitely not in working order, that we know of. He didn't show on camera him putting back together. It was it pieces on the table.
Seems like a big waste of time to engineer and manufacture something that nobody asked for, want or need...
@@chrismay2298 OK say someone wanted a similarly speced PC to complement their living room gaming on a TV and for general media use (not office use) what would be a good alternative in terms of performance and heat dissipation ?.
It is certainly much quieter than a typical gaming laptop & you are not paying for the screen you don't want.
The general Mini-PC's I see have much lower spec than this has.
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No dust filter and no way to get inside to clean it. Smart move 😂
I was just about to ask, how are you supposed to clean the rad/fan or replace the fan if needed... I mean... I clean my rad/fans ever three months and that is defo something that would put me off buying such a device, it's an impressive little beast but seems a little flawed.
Even with a dust filter, it's still going to occasionally need cleaning out as little ultra fine particles get through and coat the insides.
You could build a dust filter box to fit over it.
from the diagram looks like this case is a negative flow case so not much dust will build up inside
@@Dan-bh8jd However this setup is drawing in air from the top, the worst place for an intake.
1700$ Gaming minipc aka 1200$ gaming laptop with removed monitor, keyboard, touchpad, speakers, mic, camera and battery backup.
yeah looked at the website. they want too much for not enough power.
I would say no mic and camera is a plus, as for the rest, err, not really
1799.
But hey, you get liquid cooling!... For parts that consume about 150W combined... That also doesn't work that well...
At least it's not a laptop?
It is absolutely a staggering fear of engineering, but it's purely a novelty. I'm fairly sure most people could put together a comparable itx system that would have a similar footprint for much cheaper.
Great video! I had watched some other videos for this system - but none had done a teardown like this - so glad you included.
Can you plug this mxm 4060 into the old upgradable Alienware laptop and see what happens?
Depends on the bios. Dell really fked them up. I couldn't even upgrade from gtx 560m to gtx 660m. On the first gen M series I was able to install a gtx 280m to replace the gt240 but I had to flash it as a 8800. Dell took over after the R1 series so the R2's were lots of plastic and locked down.
...or alternatively, plug the 880m mxm into this mini PC and see if it's backwards compatible
I love how Dawid cares about aesthetics and cleanliness of his studio, at least parts in shots. This is one of the things that makes or breaks it for me regarding my attention to tech channels.
This has to be one of the absolute coolest mini pc builds or even "prebuilt" PCs that Dawid has ever reviewed. I hope there are more of these to come because this is an awesome concept
love the bioshock water maze @0:11!! Had to do a double take to remind myself what it was!
Shame on you for needing to double check. Recognized it instantly and even heard it's noises in my noggin
10:46 put it in your dell laptop with Mxm slots
i also want to see it happen
not gonna lie, it looks bad ass
Honestly the first mini pc I feel is really well done, not just for the water loop but it seems they blanced the cpu and gpu performance well enough.
It looks like some kind of fancy fruit juicer. With a possibly subscription model proprietary juice.
I shall call it the Second Coming of Juicero.
Nice having a channel that's always active and recommended an hour after posting that's not bad 👍🏽
This is by far the best minipc I have ever seen in my life. Hats off.
This is the teardown I was waiting for!
why is there that much air in the loop
Since the fill port can be accessed I wonder if a user can get all that air out?
I wonder if they do it on purpose so you can "see" the water cooling work?
It's certainly not ideal though.
Yah, saw those bubbles and wondered about that. Wonder if that's normal for this PC. Not great.
@@volvo09 air bubbles in the loop could basicly kill the system. if thats on purpose, they are idiots lol
@@FAL87 I do agree, that is a crazy amount of air.
If it's not on purpose then it is a bad design, because nothing is acting as a reservoir to bleed the air out, it just circulates it all around, it never got better as the system ran.
I like it! REAL thought went into this, refreshing.
It is called a monoblock. Good to see a company implementing them.
I wonder if all the air in that loop was the reason for the heat spike because once the pump starts up it looks like someone put seltzer water in there and those bubbles will get caught on the heat sinks micro fins and not transfer the heat.
I was about to comment this
I was going to say they did not bleed the loop properly at all.
yeah its not normal to have so much air in a loop. ususally it would get away if you have a Reservoir, but i dont see one inside.
I would have expected the radiator they chose to act as a sort of reservoir. Some gave extra space at the top to trap air, especially in AIOs. If it could do that effectively it actually looks like a pretty good layout, with a semi-res at the top and the pump at the bottom.
@@jomeyqmalone maybe, then he could open it and bleed the air out. possible.
The Engineering and assembly of that little thing is really nice.
The air in that loop. 😮
Yep that pumps going to die if they don't learn to properly bleed the air out...
The top loop is fake, just for show.
@@volvo09 Tacky AF.
One of the coolect machines I've seen! Not that I could even begin to afford one
Specs could be better, but it is still pretty damn cool. Nice to see some innovation in the mini itx space.
This was an extremely interesting teardown process! Very unique layout to say the least.
2:38 i really liked this little side note on how they used to look like. Please make more side notes
at 5:10, you can still capture your desktop with mobile gpus. i have a 4050 in my laptop and it can capture the desktop using nvidia capture.
What courage to disassemble such nice machine, nice job👍
Saw this live at IFA this weekend - looks impressive, though
It has normal BIOS. It's good to see it still alive and kicking. Even if only on mini pcs. Dzięki za materiał Dawid.
It looks sick, but $1,800 USD? If you don't need the oculink, the Atom Man G7 PT at $1,250 is a better value.
You could build a better mini ATX tower for cheaper.
Dawid saw the same FB/IG advertisement that we all saw and decide to take a shot at it! Let's GO DAWID!
for 1800 you can probably build a mini itx system that is upgradable and serviceable...
this one has poor thermals for being watercooled, air in the loop, cant even get inside to clean the fans, and that backpanel is also doing the airflow choking in the onlyfan in the system.
I'm not sure those front pipes full of air are even part of the loop. They look a bit showy and what function would those extra lengths of pipe give?
Easily, but it would be twice that size at best. I agree that it is silly and not for most people, but for that amount of performance in such a tiny package, it is impressive.
Yeah, can fit 7800X3D, 240mm AIO, 32GB DDR5-6000 CL30 and RTX 4070 12GB on 11L case for the same price.
This is like a modern baseline version of the cow print dells or the huge aerospace company commercial/industrial business laptops which weren't called laptops and had mini tablets personal organizers
It's cool if you want something small and unobtrusive, but i wish they would have put in a reservoir. Those bubbles in that loop are killing me.
The top loop Is likely just there for show, to wow people.
This thing is insane! The build quality and design are impressive. And it looks super difficult to put together. I wonder how much it'll cost and how many they'll make?
In Dawid we trust for obscure PC setups ❤
The bubbles in the tube aren't a great sign. Generally you don't want bubbles in your coolant stream. It's bad for the pump.
@2:30 - Gotta wonder just how big the pile of spare HDMI cables is at the office. :P
Wow I think many years have passed since I saw a decent prebuild pc at this channel
we've made such technological progress in the past 20 years. that's a pretty impressive feat of engineering
0:01 Heresy! No LTT screwdriver
that REALLY WAS a VERY COOL engineering job! The machine was pretty sweet in the performance department too, but I'm more fascinated with the desig7n that was put into it...
THANK YOU FOR SUCH A COOL VIDEO DAWID!
Kinda neat but I think I'll stick with my much less expensive, much easier to work on standard desktop pc. Love that you're willing to risk breaking it trying to get inside it so we can see the internals. Fascinating stuff.
Great engineering and it looks the part, this would be more down to what someone wants their PC looking like and versatility because the small form factor vs how it performs vs price. I love the look of it
I would love to have one of these to modify and improve.
Honestly, that little PC is friggin SWEET! I mean, if you have extra money to throw around, it would definitely be a cool little desk-topper item to have in your home.
for the price and performance, total waste of money imo. only an idiot would buy it
@@jasonstalder5208 I didn’t say it was a good use of money, I said “if you have extra money to throw around”. Clearly “throw around” implies you are rich enough to be frivolous, and spend on stupid things lol
@@jasonstalder5208 Well.. a decent minipc case/psu/wb is going to cost you what? 300. Ram/HD another 200 mb/cpu 500 gpu 300.. and it would all be the vanilla variants I'd say the 400 markup is reasonable.
Wow, they actually put some thought into that. I'm almost tempted to buy one, but it would just sit on the bookshelf in all its design beauty.
I love your videos Man your PC videos might help me in the future if i ever get a PC
Genuinely the most exciting system that I've seen in a long time. Going to be swapping my laptop for a Chromebook and a desktop system. Was planning on building my own, but this thing is just so cool..
Hope that air visible in the loop isn't why temps are so high.
Never thought that tecno out of all phone brands collabs with another company to make a PC
Great video! I've been getting so many ads for this pc lol
Pretty cool, but for $1799 you can build a Ryzen 5 7500F, 4070 TI Super Mini-ITX PC.
I guess if you're a creator, need a good CPU for workloads, game a little on the side and also like the unique look it could be a good buy.
For a gamer I wouldn't recommend it, the 4070 TI Super build I mentioned would be twice as fast in most games.
naw a creator is gonna want a laptop or something probably and you can basically get one with the same specs as this machine for the same price, with similar temp performance..... this machine looks cool but makes zero paper sense
For $1,800 I have seen 4080-equipped laptops on sale.
It's pretty. That's why you buy it. The performance is candy on top
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@@rustler08True. But the 4080 laptop GPU is actually the same as the 4070 TI (non super) desktop chip with a lower powerlimit. So quite a bit slower than a 4070 TI Super.
I've been looking at these for awhile, cant wait to see if its worth it!
I know nothing about gaming never played a computer game before or any since the Nintendo 64 but this looks mini to me. This is the first computer I’ve seen that I really want. I hope performs as good as it looks.
It doesn't. Just build an ITX system for a little over half the price, get better performance and at least be able to clean it. This thing is an overpriced gimmick.
@@chrismay2298 you might as well be speaking a foreign language lol I know what none of that means. When comes to this stuff there’s nobody dummer than I.
I really like that. Would love to be able to afford one, but I've got heating to pay for this winter now 💩
Love the system and also your watch! Finally, someone who wears a nice classic watch instead of an oversized monstrosity.
Cool, I was just looking at these.
🤣 my man @0:21 that hiccup shook your entire house, I felt it! Good on you being able to poke fun at yourself, you can't be confident without being comfortable.
*Also, just wanted to say I'm loving the content. I just stumbled upon your channel one day as a recommended video and I've been coming back ever since. Keep up the good work! I know it's not easy to make, produce, and edit these videos, great job!
is it me or dawid is uploading more recently? either way it's a good thing. as someone who is doing youtube I understand how hard it is.
That's quite the little hotbox we have here.
Talking about yours?
@@johnt.848 hahaha that’s quite bold 🤭
There is a distinct lack of ventilation, the liquid loop MIGHT be able to bruteforce it to "acceptable" temperatures, but I'm guessing it could be waaaaaay better.
And after the video, not have easy access to the fan and rad for cleaning on top of sub-par ventilation means that these are going to start overheating badly in the future.
I think it’s absolutely fabulous.
TECNO is one of the famous brands in my country, they produce phones and laptops, but i don't think it is expected that they made the mini-pc
That Bioshock sound/image was a real blast from the past lol.
Thats a nice looking unit.
Dawid never fails to dissappint with wuality content
Oh nice it has display port alt on those type c ports
I guessed that this system would come in at $2,000. I was actually over by $100. But I was blown away by the MXM card. This is an extremely well engineered PC. Worth the price. Just wish we could see inside the case. Want to add a fan at the top.
Wild to see mxm there
I would NOT be comfortable with that much air constantly running through my pump. Dear lord.
You put out so much good quality content lately. As someone who loves watching your videos i highly appreciate this! Thank you!
All kidding aside did it work after you reassembled it?
looked like the lights on the loop were off after he assembled it
Bro is catching on with Toasty Bros ❤
Is it just me or someone else also had the crazy idea of making a pc case out of bulletproof glass....
what a cool peice of tech!!! love your stuff dawid
I think overall this mini pc is great! Even the price for being completely custom ain’t too too bad!
That air in that loop is insane.
In my opinion, with the engineering and thought that's went into this thing, it's well worth the money.
Well I would say this... If they provided a convenient way to clean it. Even some dust filters shoved in a gap would do.
Dawid: puts box on table
My brain: "oh this is gon be good"
I'm just so glad that I don't have to reassemble that PC.
For valid temperatures you should have tilted the PC while have it running just to get the air completely out of the loop but into the top of the radiator (where it can sit until it does of old age).
Dang! That system looks so cool!
I appreciate Dawid's admission that he suffered an ID10T error.
I bet you did not put that back together ... if you did we need a video... What a great little PC. great design. Great video :)
Tecno is actually a B-list smartphone brand (sister brand of Infinix, both brands are well known in the Middle East, Africa and South America mainly). They are branching out quite a bit here.
The perfect usecase for such a double- sided waterblock. Almost like the one LTT sold off :)
Good design, I think the 4060 is also the mobile version like the CPU. It has nice packaging, of course the little 120mm radiator and fan can get quite hot but its not like a normal laptop that screams its fans out to keep under 90C. And of course they need to make it easier to clean the radiator, dust is gonna get in there and lower its efficiency over time. Also the loop seems to have alot of air in there, a fillport on top of the radiator would have been better to manage that. The pump is probably very cheap too...
Last time Dawid was this excited he was in Japan
nice mono block, not that's it's new or anything but it's cool to see this being adopted. if not for aesthetic they could shrink the whole case even further
Wow.
looks cool i think it will get better in time.
A very impressive little system, sure it's expensive but given it's size, cooling ability and it's overall uniqueness it warrants a high premium.
The only thing that I noticed was there appeared to be air trapped in the loop.
It's engineering is really nice but the price still couldn't beat a gaming laptop. I get why it costs that much tough, that's a very nice design
I think the person who doesn't mind spending so much extra for that form factor, is the sort of person who has a room big enough to where that form factor wouldn't be needed/would look silly.
Ngl, the case is really cool.
If only you could diy in that, and ofc add another mesh panel!