Lol it’s about the manager as well as the individual employee, and the difficulty level of replacement If its not bread and butter most places will just say they can’t or won’t
Not discounting his knowledge, but there was nothing in this video that was so arcane that thousands of long-time Italian car enthusiasts wouldn't be able to pull out off the top of their head.
THE problem with ferrari enthusiasts which they kind of touched on is that Ferarris are meant to be raced, driven, and completely pushed to the max. That is their foundation, their history and that is what they are built for. However Ferrari owners, and i'm sure this is why enzo hated his customers, they tend to just buy the cars as a symbol of wealth. They're not seen in the public eye anymore as the historic race car like they are they're seen as rich person commodities that only get driven once or twice a week the golf course or to a fancy meal then parked for who knows how long when in reality they're machines that are MADE to be driven like crazy. Donut Media has a great video about this whole problem.
Shelby owners are basically the same species of douchebag as Ferrari owners. Except they race more than Ferrari owners race their cars, instead they just garage queen them
This is true, although it's exaggerated that Enzo had disdain for all his customers. He had many customers that he liked and was good friends with, primarily in Europe. His cars (rightfully) being used as status symbols only helped his brand, and he knew this. People can do with their property as they wish.
I knew a guy who owned a Testarossa. It didn’t get driven once or twice a week-more like once or twice a month. He was approaching the mandatory $35K tune up, and planned to sell it just before. Ferraris aren’t for the well-off (as my friend was): they’re for the ultra rich who don’t even know what work or money is
@@EEvtg Nice sarcastic reply unaccompanied by statistical evidence verified by an accredited, neutral body providing a full explanation of methodology.
You can get a mid-90's example for between $40-80k. If you can buy a new Camry, you can buy a used Ferrari, because the value is only going to go up IF you do the maintenance. I'm not into them myself, I'm much more of a Porsche guy because you can maintain it yourself and not ruin the value of it or put yourself in the poor house. See @switchcars on Instagram, he will find you whatever it is you're looking for in YOUR budget. It might be a higher mileage example to fit your budget (I don’t know your finances) but it will be gorgeous. Happy hunting!
He has it confused, its a collector that is bothered by matching numbers and originality not an enthusiast, an enthusiast is completely different, their the ones that will never own one.
It’s worth mentioning that the David Lee Dino 3.6 does use a Ferrari F40 “block” and was bored out to 3.6L. The F40 engine block is ideal for the Dino because of the low height and lower center of gravity in order to accommodate the 8 velocity stack intakes. The F40 block is also ideal because of the material it is made of and it’s ability to tolerate the higher pressure of the turbos, even though the turbos have been deleted and overbored instead.
No way it's an actual F40 block (where are you gonna get em ? ... and why wouldn't you keep it for an actual F40 for spares ?) It probably uses a 308 or 328 block (which is actually the same block, the 288GTO and F40 engines are heavily modified versions of the 308/328 engine but the block is more or less the same)
@@JIMMYOXXX far more likely he got told something untrue and just ran with it cuz it sounds sexy. The f40 engine even if you got it for free would be a dumber place to start than a 308 block. You'd just lose the turbos/intercooler for some reason, you would have to bore out MORE material. Changing it to 3.6l would require new EVERYTHING anyways. Pistons, rods, crank, fuel system, engine management, cams, valves etc starting with an f40 engine and keeping just the block is retarded. Like taking the hope diamond, smashing it to bits for shards to make a tennis bracelet Just because the guy owns a lot of Ferraris doesn't mean he is intimately in touch with all of it. The dude that built that dino has a similar setup to his own but didn't go as insane with the details. The builder certainly doesn't have the fleet that DLee has, who do you think is the expert here? David or the British granpa in a shed. Having things doesn't make you an expert on those things. In fact in real life, generally the more you have the less of an expert you are paying to the fact that you're necessarily less specialized in your hobbies AND the fact you have less time for it owing to your other responsibilities in life
It was a F40 motor. Lee's engine builder removed the turbos and bored out the block from 2.9L to 3.6L. I think Matt is getting confused with another car that someone also put a 328 motor in. That's not the same as David's Lee's car.
@@Johnny-tq9no The reason is because the block fit the engine bay better and it was off a salvaged car. It also produces over 400 hp and can rev higher due to the design of the motor, it was actually a brilliant move.
@@gpaje not sure about it being a brilliant move just because it was off a salvage car doesn't mean it was worth any less and I'm pretty sure another engine would have fit just fine without basically completely redesigning the engine to be na
@@Johnny-tq9no I'm not the engineer or the millionaire exotic sports car owner who designed and had the car built. But I suspect they had good reasons to do what they did, and the articles I read made perfect sense. Maybe you should read them yourself? He wanted the best restomod Ferrari he could and the package he created was that. He didn't need to make the compromises you suggested. Also removing the turbos and changing the bore isn't completely redesigning a motor.
gpage in a way it is. The power curve of the motor and fuel was set to forced induction. By changing it to NA everything perfectly designed is now flat on its face. That whole idea is ridiculous. Taking twin turbos off an f40 motor is dumb. There are way better options. Rather than have to remap the whole engine. Stupid
I'm over here listening to two dudes talking about shit i'll never be able to afford and I'm taking notes as if I'm going to head over to the dealership next weekend..........
@@kemosabeusmc Nah, if I had the kind of money it takes to comfortably buy one of these cars I would probably buy something else anyway. But it is fun to live vicariously though other people. Even if I could afford a $300,000 car, I would not drive it enough and enjoy it enough to really want it. I'd probably rent one for a week and get it out of my system.
Crazy Serb isnt that the kevlar belt that goes on the alternator and engine wheel to rotate the pistons, in turn rotating the gears in the transmission, than rotating the drive shaft rotating the rear axle, rotating the wheels? I hear they rip off or fly off chains are more reliable but i guess they are hard to take off
@@T0YCHEST On top of that a lot of the engines in high performance cars are interference engines - if that timing BELT wears out or breaks there goes your pistons and your valves. That's a BIG reason timing belts were done away with.
The advantage of belts is that they do not stretch so the valve timing is exactly the same at the end of life as on day one. Because they don't stretch there is no need for a variable tensioner. Chains 'stretch' which is actually caused by the metal components wearing. They require variable tensioning over the lifespan and the valve timing changes over the lifespan. Belts are also significantly lighter than chains. For performance engines a belt is simply superior.
@@traviscriddle7743 and I agree with him. Chains are also noisier, and they don't live forever (even though they generally last longer than belts). When a chain needs replacement - it's a way more expensive job than doing a belt.
Timing belts generally maintain a more accurate, stable and *quiet* valvetrain - especially when running flat-tappet cams, a/o lots of lift and spring tension. Modern M&P’s have doubled (even tripled) belts’ longevity, in just the last decade or so. Timing chains have always been THE choice for longevity and low maintenance, in passenger vehicles. Parasitic losses are lower to boot. Chains RARELY fail (as belts do) but can still become *“stretched”* beyond design serviceability. Chain stretch is actually the individual link pins and bores wearing, creating a physically longer (and less articulate) chain. Belt or chain, both are kept under dynamic tension, and SOME stretch will be compensated for. The nature of a timing belt dictates replacement, well before out-stretching its tensioner’s mechanical limit. Chains, on the other hand, tend to remain in-place for an engine’s service life. High mileage examples will become sloppy, loose, noisy....and potentially the eventual *‘cause of death.’* Lastly, there are gear-driven valvetrains. The NOISIEST option is generally preferred use in low-revving, heavy-duty Diesel applications - where major service intervals exceed 250,000 miles (a/o 10K engine hours). Here, chipped teeth and ball-bearing failures can take an engine down - but are quite uncommon.
VFR/RVF V4 motor uses spur gear driven cams, the sound is unmistakeable, especially paired with the V4 burble. Swapping the silencer cogs for shims frees up 2hp from parasitic loss on the valvetrain and makes them a literal screamer. Incidentally the system is so over-engineered it's practically indestructible.
Perfect vid for those that are fans of both! This go right to the heart of those that know Joe’s true love for cars... and what better guest to “talk cars” with form a “street” point of view. Love this!
I like how Matt talks about timing belts like they're some sort of ancient foreign concept, meanwhile a ton of cars still use them. Granted I do prefer timing chains for the reasons he mentions here, but on most normal cars its not nearly the same level of headache as on a ferrari.
Agreed. But I do think interference engines shouldnt have them. Non interference engines sure. Because its not the end of the world if the belt pops or jump a few teeth.
As if!!??!! Tons of chain driven engines have PLASTIC timing keepers and guards! PLASTIC! So how is it any diff or better. The service interval is basically the same and they both can do over 200k without service. They make everything seem to be bad lol
I was a mechanic for Brian Crall Ferrari in the SF bay area San Ramon Ca to be exact, 80% of the owners were very down to earth and pleasant people. A highlight for me was restoring some hydraulics and the brake system on a 1965 Muira.
Brian taking me out to lunch in his gf's lambo suv was also kinda fun. Brian was a concours judge and his gf was north american ferrari club president. Had alit of good times working for him. My one regret was not going to pikes peak on his invite. I work in the auto industry near Detriot now for a tier 1 auto supplier Exedy Engineering.
Mr.BigBoss7 the amount of horsepower could not be less relevant, it’s a bad timing solution for any engine. The purpose of the comment was they made it sound like Ferrari was the only company using belts. Belts are very common.
Matt Farah will forever remain one of my favorite reviewers, you just don't get that blunt honesty from others now a days, everyone else is so afraid of losing face that they'll look at the camera and just straight lie when they know the car is trash
DudeBro tv I remember someone commented this on something that had to do with racial issues , he got so many angry replies... thinking he meant he wants to be a skinhead
The Monza Evo 3.6 is a real f40 engine says www.roadandtrack.com/car-culture/classic-cars/a22994390/ferrari-dino-monza-3-6-evo-driven/ Monza, the 2.9-liter V8 was stripped of its turbines and ancillary parts, punched out to 3.6-liter displacement, and given eight individual throttle bodies
The Lancia Stratos HF had the Ferrari Dino V-6 engine with 190 bhp. The group 4 rally version had 265 bhp and the engine screams. The rally car weighed about 1750 lbs. It won the WRC championship 1974, 75 and 76. A new Stratos (2005) was being created by a German and Austrian and it has 4.3 liter Ferrari V8. 533 bhp. $1 million.
If I remember correctly David Lee wanted to use a F40 engine in his Dino but it was proving too difficult to fit everything into the Dino’s small engine bay without major modification so they decided to use the naturally aspirated 3.6 liter V8 from the 360. Without the turbos and intercoolers the 3.6 liter fit better and was less demanding than the F40’s engine.
I’v talked to enough supercar owners and dealers at work and car shows to know that Lamborghini owners are way douchier than Ferrari owners in person. The majority of people who buy entry level super cars are usually just doing it for the status symbol and don’t know much about cars but the rare collectors are often genuine people from my experience.
Exactly, but the saddest thing is that people who are not into cars think that all of those who love supercars do that because of status symbol (which is the majority I guess), but there is a lot of people really interested into cars as an extraordinary and complex technology object in which art and performances melt together
Wrong. As an owner, and someone surrounded by tons of other exotic owners, Ferrari owners, on average, are the bigger douchebags. They are much more likely to be the types to look down their nose at everything that's not Ferrari and scoff at you.
@@GoesSlow exactly. The biggest douchebags I’ve met in the car community is Ferrari owners, mustang owners(specifically GT500 owners) viper owners, corvette owners, and GTR owners can be really cool but also kinda douchey but it’s low key, they low key think they are better than everyone else bc they have a GTR but at least they keep it to themselves, they aren’t flaming douchebags like Shelby owners
No it wasn't a very common thing and was related to some heat shielding they put on the rear fender liners. The adhesive they used was apparently flammable and in some cases resulted in "thermal incidents". It was quickly updated where they/we removed the adhesive and riveted the heat shields in place.
Todd Simone using flammable adhesive sort of goes against the definition of reliability if it causes your 458 to spontaneously combust. Having a recall after your pride and joy goes up in flames probably wasn’t consolation to those who lost their car prior to the recall. Let’s just hope they had third party spontaneous fire and theft insurance 😆
@@creativecrabsbeach5498Meth? Where the fuck did that come from? We was all having good fun and joking around, you should try it sometime. This guy's mad because I have more like on this comment then he has on his entire channel. Lmao go to hell.
I had a 2004 Ferrari 360 it was a very smooth car. I just bought a 2004 Lamborghini Gallardo and that thing is rough riding. But from what I research the Gallardo is more reliable so we will see how it goes as time goes on.
The 1st gen Gallardo has always been one of my favorite exotics. If I ever get to the point where I have super car money I’d definitely try and get one myself.
@@jimjawz The Testarossa until A little bit into the future are some of my designs. The Testarossa was designed while I was writing Miami Vice. Many of the songs used in the series were also written at that time. I have also designed vehicles for many other manufacturers including aerospace. I don't write anymore, so there is no need to design anymore. However I have made some recent breakthroughs in the last year just for the fun of it. The R8 was designed for Iron Man. The Camero was designed for Transformers along with other vehicles in the movies. Dodges for the movie Twister. Some engines/drivetrains that I named similarly are VTEC, Vortec, Voltec, Duratec, Ecotec and Ecoboost. I keep A low profile but you can find some free information on my RUclips page. Try it out, if you want to?
If ou invert and reverse the logo it looks very similar to an ancient engraving of an impaild horse. Ferrerri was a known Satanist, proberly, thats what the classic Red and Yellow colours are supposed to signal. Buy the car you literally join a satainic undergroup, Alex might say.
The market for manual transmission is just disappearing. 1. The people who know how to drive stick are disappearing along with the enjoyment and connectivity of a manual. 2. Manufactures won't justify cost of producing manuals for such a dwindling fan base especially considering the numbers game of acceleration times. Why build cars with slower numbers.
Except in Ferraris they advertise changing it like every 30K. " Most cars with rubber timing belts use 80-100,000 mile service intervals but the belts Ferrari sourced only last for a 1/4 of those miles." www.ferraricraft.com/2016/09/308-major-service/
there's a reason some stock vintage ferraris go for 40 million+. imagine if the owners modified them, they'd be worth shit. that's why nodody does it. way outta ya lane joe.
Jason Trabbold That’s true for a lot of special cars, but the cheaper Ferrari’s aren’t special cars really, they just make them money to race and build the cooler shit.
It maybe that Ferrari buyers are looking at ownership as more of an investment. Which is fine, I guess but, it feels like a shame to think many of these cars don't get used for that which they were designed.
Belt drives on valvetrains are used because of less friction losses and lighter rotational mass. Belts and respective tensioners are maybe 1/3 of the weight of the equivalent in chain driven valvetrains.
I know absulotely nothing about cars but I enjoy listening to Farah talk about them, dude is so enthusiastic and knowledgeable about them that I can't help but listen in.
Sad but true. Enzo was an asshole, and he didnt give a shit about road cars. I understand he only wanted to race, but people loved his shit and wanted a piece of what he built. He did give us the F40 before he passed though.
s n Ferraris are shit boxes. Look over a Testarossa and it has kit car quality. 355/360s are the most unimpressive pieces of shit ever. Some of the newer Ferraris are nice, but their road cars have been kind of joke for most of their history.
"ive heard that car that car lives here" "really no way?" "yeah that car lives in los angeles" "have you tried dmt?" "no but epstein didnt kill himself"
Fwrrari-owner's of Japan must be the deviation of Ferrari owners then. Lots of videos on youtube with insanely modified Ferraris in Japan. Quite fascinating.
You guys are absolutely right. I used to be a big Ferrari fanboy. That ended once I realized these things. Even their racing team, they will embrace their most hated rivals just to win. You know what, if I'm in the position to buy one, I'll just go get a Lamborghini or Porsche without needing to be on a special list for the privilege of buying a car. Just walk in, buy one and do whatever you want with it.
@@oxfordbambooshootify A standard Lambo or Porsche, not really. There might be a wait for the production, but if there's a car in the showroom anybody can buy it. They do have some special edition cars where that's true. You probably had to be on a list to buy a Sian or 918 .
@@HeatherSpoonheim Should be a cheap replacement, they still sold the aveo globally until 2018. Had one as a rental in 2017 fuel mileage was horrible for such a small car.
Matt, timing chains also wear out, and they cost three times as much to replace while not lasting as long. For a Ferrari it makes sense because they never get driven and chains don’t rot just from sitting in a garage. For a car that actually gets used, belts are fine.
@@calincampbell5637 Use Google. There is no trivial number of engines equipped with timing chains that have to be replaced nearly as frequently as belts. These are mostly overhead cam engines like you find in Ferraris.
@@michaelw6277 I stand corrected. I only have experience with pushrod engines and have never ever had a timing chain issue. But I can see how it could be a problem with ohc. My apologies
F40 has a 2.9L v8, I'm really sure you can hear an see the difference between the two. Alot of car companies during the 80's went an tried to only use timing belts, failed an went back to timing belt an timing chains.
Ill admit that while I cant afford a Ferrari, Lamborghini or Porsche. And likely never will. Sometimes I try to drive the cars that I can in the spirit of one lol.
Maintenance is really not much different between belt and chain as chains need maintenance too. The tensioner /guides wear out and chains do stretch. Parts for chain maintenance are more expensive than belt but upside is that they will not snap.
Being Joe Rogan has to be the best thing in the world He works in things he's passionate about and his best friends are the best at their own professions.
Nobody: Joe Rogan: I love that mechnical feel, where you know you can feel the car and the road and row your own gears. raaaaaaaaarrrrrr grrrrrr raaaaaaaarrrrrr.
Schaub will probably trade in the Ferrari now for, a Tesla. Or drop a Benji on the CyberTruck preorder... "Its only 100 bucks!". Joe will say " you shoulda got the Roadster".
That would be cool, although the Voodoo makes more HP all motor than the F40 does with twins, so the Focus would be cooler from a engine perspective. Voodoo swap the Dino and you’d have the best Ferrari V8 ever.
Not all of them are bad, I just sold my Ferrari and moved over to McLaren. When at meets and special events I’d say it was a 50/50 mix of actual enthusiasts and guys just buying for the status. So far I’m loving the McLaren more BUT Ferrari was my first exotic, a dream come true, and the screaming FPC V8 sounds like no other.
My buddy worked as a mechanic at a local high end garage that worked on Ferrari's, Lambo's etc etc and he would show me the total destruction these idiot owners would do to these poor cars. I remember one story where the customer literally said he didn't know you were suppose to use the clutch peddle when shifting...
@@diablocls55 I forget the details, this was in the early 2000's but I'm assuming he wasn't using the clutch to shift or something you weren't suppose to do. I remember his shop had one of Shaq's convertible Ferrari's and they had to remove the seat brakets and mount them to the floor and the back head rests were taller than the windshield.
Jeremy Clarkson would be a great guest.
Absolutely!!!
JOE, YOU BLAWDY WELL GET CLARKSON ON ALREADY!!
Amen to that!
+1 on that Joe!
@@jessebrown1400 oh, he'll get him.. just watch...
@@jessebrown1400 He should bring on the race car drivers who were "The Stig" too..
2 guys having 3 simultaneous conversations.
LOL
Like they are having a text message conversation verbally 😅
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Travis Tweten haha that’s good
There are some individuals that cannot wait till you finish your sentence...😳
" imagine a gorilla driving a modified dino while on dmt."
"Jamie, look up that up"
It is ok though this Gorilla is a meat eater and is evolving with a human brain. Looks strange though with his mushroom hat taking to Aliens 👽
“It’s entirely possible”
Joe Rogan should start doing car talks. I'd watch it all day long
"That badge needs to fuck off".. "Those are some bitch ass tires" ..... I would pay for a joe rogan car channel
first one should be with brendan on the raptor
@@georgezimmerman3334
I'd tune out of that episode, that dudes a biatch
You’re not lying. I think Joe leave that to Matt though. The Smoking Tire podcast. The Doug demuro ones are great.
100%
I’m here acting like I didn’t just have the guy at Autozone put a new low beam headlight in for me the other day.
Those fuckers told me they won't put in a headlight!
Lol it’s about the manager as well as the individual employee, and the difficulty level of replacement
If its not bread and butter most places will just say they can’t or won’t
Micky M. What kind of car.
@@KobaBlack113 14' jeep grand Cherokee. It was kind of a bitch. Would've been easier to get a kid with tiny hands to do it.
@@mickym.6711 we don't get paid more to do ur lights pal. so at the end of the day we get paid the same whether we help or not.
Matt Farah is the Joe rogan of the car world
@Ian Kowalczyk really? wouldn't have thought that ive been following his channel for a little bit
@@acatnamedscamper3307 yo thats crazy. I never liked his reviews to begin with.
J Kyle I’m not hating I just am VERY surprised to see this guy praised and “interviews” with fame. Shocks tf outta me. But that’s America for you🤷🏽♂️
@@acatnamedscamper3307 they crucified Jared from subway. He got off easy. Politicians have pedophilia in the job description. Sick fucks run the world
@@acatnamedscamper3307 that's nuts I don't think much people knew that
I keep forgetting how knowledgeable Matt is. It’s astounding how he can pull such detail out of thin air.
The Smoking Tire back in the day was wildly informative, I've learned a ton from Matt!
Not discounting his knowledge, but there was nothing in this video that was so arcane that thousands of long-time Italian car enthusiasts wouldn't be able to pull out off the top of their head.
@@sburns2421 I was gonna say, this is all common knowledge to anyone who knows a little about cars.
THE problem with ferrari enthusiasts which they kind of touched on is that Ferarris are meant to be raced, driven, and completely pushed to the max. That is their foundation, their history and that is what they are built for. However Ferrari owners, and i'm sure this is why enzo hated his customers, they tend to just buy the cars as a symbol of wealth. They're not seen in the public eye anymore as the historic race car like they are they're seen as rich person commodities that only get driven once or twice a week the golf course or to a fancy meal then parked for who knows how long when in reality they're machines that are MADE to be driven like crazy. Donut Media has a great video about this whole problem.
Shelby owners are basically the same species of douchebag as Ferrari owners. Except they race more than Ferrari owners race their cars, instead they just garage queen them
This is true, although it's exaggerated that Enzo had disdain for all his customers. He had many customers that he liked and was good friends with, primarily in Europe. His cars (rightfully) being used as status symbols only helped his brand, and he knew this. People can do with their property as they wish.
I knew a guy who owned a Testarossa. It didn’t get driven once or twice a week-more like once or twice a month. He was approaching the mandatory $35K tune up, and planned to sell it just before. Ferraris aren’t for the well-off (as my friend was): they’re for the ultra rich who don’t even know what work or money is
@@BillLaBrie Nice generalization based on one anecdotal experience.
@@EEvtg Nice sarcastic reply unaccompanied by statistical evidence verified by an accredited, neutral body providing a full explanation of methodology.
They have my head nodding and I literally know nothing about cars.
Lmao same
Gwill well said. Only things I know nothing about crs
Same here. I can barely change my headlight fluid.
@@WrathofFenrir99 do you have a car or a horse?
Takahashi TP what a fucking reference lmao, haven’t seen that in awhile
The only problem with Ferrari enthusiast, is that I can’t afford to be one 😔
That’s a YOU problem. Not a Ferrari enthusiast problem.
You can get a mid-90's example for between $40-80k. If you can buy a new Camry, you can buy a used Ferrari, because the value is only going to go up IF you do the maintenance. I'm not into them myself, I'm much more of a Porsche guy because you can maintain it yourself and not ruin the value of it or put yourself in the poor house. See @switchcars on Instagram, he will find you whatever it is you're looking for in YOUR budget. It might be a higher mileage example to fit your budget (I don’t know your finances) but it will be gorgeous. Happy hunting!
He has it confused, its a collector that is bothered by matching numbers and originality not an enthusiast, an enthusiast is completely different, their the ones that will never own one.
Ferrari Monidals are dirt cheap
bravofighter what Porsche do you drive?
It’s worth mentioning that the David Lee Dino 3.6 does use a Ferrari F40 “block” and was bored out to 3.6L. The F40 engine block is ideal for the Dino because of the low height and lower center of gravity in order to accommodate the 8 velocity stack intakes. The F40 block is also ideal because of the material it is made of and it’s ability to tolerate the higher pressure of the turbos, even though the turbos have been deleted and overbored instead.
No way it's an actual F40 block (where are you gonna get em ? ... and why wouldn't you keep it for an actual F40 for spares ?)
It probably uses a 308 or 328 block (which is actually the same block, the 288GTO and F40 engines are heavily modified versions of the 308/328 engine but the block is more or less the same)
@@DominicLeung87 David Lee has like every Ferrari ever made, hell Ferrari probably gave him a F40 engine they love him so much
@@Turk_2023 that's just retarded, and doesn't address the fact that the F40 engine IS a modified example of the 308 engine's block.
@@DominicLeung87 dude is pretty rich and did what he wanted to do.
@@JIMMYOXXX far more likely he got told something untrue and just ran with it cuz it sounds sexy.
The f40 engine even if you got it for free would be a dumber place to start than a 308 block. You'd just lose the turbos/intercooler for some reason, you would have to bore out MORE material.
Changing it to 3.6l would require new EVERYTHING anyways. Pistons, rods, crank, fuel system, engine management, cams, valves etc starting with an f40 engine and keeping just the block is retarded. Like taking the hope diamond, smashing it to bits for shards to make a tennis bracelet
Just because the guy owns a lot of Ferraris doesn't mean he is intimately in touch with all of it. The dude that built that dino has a similar setup to his own but didn't go as insane with the details. The builder certainly doesn't have the fleet that DLee has, who do you think is the expert here? David or the British granpa in a shed.
Having things doesn't make you an expert on those things. In fact in real life, generally the more you have the less of an expert you are paying to the fact that you're necessarily less specialized in your hobbies AND the fact you have less time for it owing to your other responsibilities in life
Enzo plz fix my car
Enzo: *Go love yourself*
Ok
Guns up 👉
It was a F40 motor. Lee's engine builder removed the turbos and bored out the block from 2.9L to 3.6L. I think Matt is getting confused with another car that someone also put a 328 motor in. That's not the same as David's Lee's car.
Well that's dumb it they did that
@@Johnny-tq9no The reason is because the block fit the engine bay better and it was off a salvaged car. It also produces over 400 hp and can rev higher due to the design of the motor, it was actually a brilliant move.
@@gpaje not sure about it being a brilliant move just because it was off a salvage car doesn't mean it was worth any less and I'm pretty sure another engine would have fit just fine without basically completely redesigning the engine to be na
@@Johnny-tq9no I'm not the engineer or the millionaire exotic sports car owner who designed and had the car built. But I suspect they had good reasons to do what they did, and the articles I read made perfect sense. Maybe you should read them yourself? He wanted the best restomod Ferrari he could and the package he created was that. He didn't need to make the compromises you suggested. Also removing the turbos and changing the bore isn't completely redesigning a motor.
gpage in a way it is. The power curve of the motor and fuel was set to forced induction. By changing it to NA everything perfectly designed is now flat on its face. That whole idea is ridiculous. Taking twin turbos off an f40 motor is dumb. There are way better options. Rather than have to remap the whole engine. Stupid
I listen to the smoking tire podcast and Joe Rogan podcast the most, and this is the biggest head trip hearing both of them talk at the same time.
Ur not gonna believe this but this is their 2nd time!
@@danieljacobs9587 3rd of 4th even i think. He did an early one with Alex Ross of Sharkwerks as well
They are always fun to listen to!!
Matt's early statement on the dangers of using special, irreplaceable components on a project car is well said
I'm over here listening to two dudes talking about shit i'll never be able to afford and I'm taking notes as if I'm going to head over to the dealership next weekend..........
Tyrone Biggums yep🤣 me too
Dont count yourself out . Theres enough money to go around.
@@kemosabeusmc Nah, if I had the kind of money it takes to comfortably buy one of these cars I would probably buy something else anyway. But it is fun to live vicariously though other people. Even if I could afford a $300,000 car, I would not drive it enough and enjoy it enough to really want it. I'd probably rent one for a week and get it out of my system.
Joe “what is a timing belt” Rogan
Crazy Serb isnt that the kevlar belt that goes on the alternator and engine wheel to rotate the pistons, in turn rotating the gears in the transmission, than rotating the drive shaft rotating the rear axle, rotating the wheels?
I hear they rip off or fly off chains are more reliable but i guess they are hard to take off
He didn't ask what a timing belt is but sure.
@@T0YCHEST On top of that a lot of the engines in high performance cars are interference engines - if that timing BELT wears out or breaks there goes your pistons and your valves. That's a BIG reason timing belts were done away with.
Dan Lorett even 67 gt500s?
Dan Lorett idk what u said btw i was just guessing i dont own a car idk what im talking about but i want to own a 67 gt500
“I have a countach...the best car ever”
Dead serious
Ignacio Gavenda that shit wavy baby yeah
.... and? One of the dopest cars ever.
It’s the greatest looking car ever tbh
You sound like someone who doesn't own a Countach
The countach is just a kids futuristic dream. I love ferrari but countach 5000s....damn it is a beautiful car...
The advantage of belts is that they do not stretch so the valve timing is exactly the same at the end of life as on day one. Because they don't stretch there is no need for a variable tensioner. Chains 'stretch' which is actually caused by the metal components wearing. They require variable tensioning over the lifespan and the valve timing changes over the lifespan. Belts are also significantly lighter than chains. For performance engines a belt is simply superior.
That is your opinion.
@@traviscriddle7743Provide evidence to the contrary. Buffoon
@@traviscriddle7743 and I agree with him. Chains are also noisier, and they don't live forever (even though they generally last longer than belts). When a chain needs replacement - it's a way more expensive job than doing a belt.
Timing belts generally maintain a more accurate, stable and *quiet* valvetrain - especially when running flat-tappet cams, a/o lots of lift and spring tension. Modern M&P’s have doubled (even tripled) belts’ longevity, in just the last decade or so.
Timing chains have always been THE choice for longevity and low maintenance, in passenger vehicles. Parasitic losses are lower to boot. Chains RARELY fail (as belts do) but can still become *“stretched”* beyond design serviceability. Chain stretch is actually the individual link pins and bores wearing, creating a physically longer (and less articulate) chain.
Belt or chain, both are kept under dynamic tension, and SOME stretch will be compensated for. The nature of a timing belt dictates replacement, well before out-stretching its tensioner’s mechanical limit. Chains, on the other hand, tend to remain in-place for an engine’s service life. High mileage examples will become sloppy, loose, noisy....and potentially the eventual *‘cause of death.’*
Lastly, there are gear-driven valvetrains. The NOISIEST option is generally preferred use in low-revving, heavy-duty Diesel applications - where major service intervals exceed 250,000 miles (a/o 10K engine hours). Here, chipped teeth and ball-bearing failures can take an engine down - but are quite uncommon.
Yep, Ferrari choosing belts made sense for them. It was not a "wrong" choice.
VFR/RVF V4 motor uses spur gear driven cams, the sound is unmistakeable, especially paired with the V4 burble. Swapping the silencer cogs for shims frees up 2hp from parasitic loss on the valvetrain and makes them a literal screamer. Incidentally the system is so over-engineered it's practically indestructible.
Schaub will get rid of his after this.
Nah he got the tip off early and already got rid of it B.
Do you really think he knows how to drive a proper manual?
Dumb question, Shaub who?
@@Carguyeight ngl if I was in Schaubs position I'd probs do the same thing. Like if you got all that money why not change your car all the time haha.
I’m not entirely sure a Ferrari is a smart investment for someone like him 😂
Perfect vid for those that are fans of both! This go right to the heart of those that know Joe’s true love for cars... and what better guest to “talk cars” with form a “street” point of view. Love this!
Honestly, I hope they do another podcast this was fun to watch.
I like how Matt talks about timing belts like they're some sort of ancient foreign concept, meanwhile a ton of cars still use them. Granted I do prefer timing chains for the reasons he mentions here, but on most normal cars its not nearly the same level of headache as on a ferrari.
Agreed. But I do think interference engines shouldnt have them. Non interference engines sure. Because its not the end of the world if the belt pops or jump a few teeth.
Well they do keep breaking, Testarossa is kinda known for that. :))
As if!!??!! Tons of chain driven engines have PLASTIC timing keepers and guards! PLASTIC! So how is it any diff or better. The service interval is basically the same and they both can do over 200k without service. They make everything seem to be bad lol
I have a feeling that replacing a Ferrari belt is a bigger deal than a civic belt
Agreed. Modern Hondas and most German cars have belts.
I was a mechanic for Brian Crall Ferrari in the SF bay area San Ramon Ca to be exact, 80% of the owners were very down to earth and pleasant people. A highlight for me was restoring some hydraulics and the brake system on a 1965 Muira.
I'm from that area actually. That's interesting to me, have anymore stories/something else to share
@@concord3428 I was born in Concord at Mt Diablo hospital.
Brian taking me out to lunch in his gf's lambo suv was also kinda fun. Brian was a concours judge and his gf was north american ferrari club president. Had alit of good times working for him. My one regret was not going to pikes peak on his invite. I work in the auto industry near Detriot now for a tier 1 auto supplier Exedy Engineering.
@@Fulthrotle73 wow man that sounds like a good good time. Good luck with your adventures up in Detroit
@Christopher Palmer It was red.
Lots of engines had timing belts. The belt on my Honda Accord broke.
its getting to the timing belt thats a bitch
Any engine with a timing belt will instantly become a "contact motor"
Pffffffffftttttbwahahahaha
@Mr.BigBoss7 320 hp at 8300 in a Civic okay?
@Wolf Among Sheep it's not, I drive one daily
Mr.BigBoss7 the amount of horsepower could not be less relevant, it’s a bad timing solution for any engine. The purpose of the comment was they made it sound like Ferrari was the only company using belts. Belts are very common.
Matt Farah will forever remain one of my favorite reviewers, you just don't get that blunt honesty from others now a days, everyone else is so afraid of losing face that they'll look at the camera and just straight lie when they know the car is trash
That was some good car talk. On point with everything.
These guys make me want to shave my head
@Mr.BigBoss7 lol
I’m bald and bearded.
These guys make me want to shave your head
DudeBro tv I remember someone commented this on something that had to do with racial issues , he got so many angry replies... thinking he meant he wants to be a skinhead
get a life
The Monza Evo 3.6 is a real f40 engine says www.roadandtrack.com/car-culture/classic-cars/a22994390/ferrari-dino-monza-3-6-evo-driven/
Monza, the 2.9-liter V8 was stripped of its turbines and ancillary parts, punched out to 3.6-liter displacement, and given eight individual throttle bodies
The Lancia Stratos HF had the Ferrari Dino V-6 engine with 190 bhp. The group 4 rally version had 265 bhp and the engine screams. The rally car weighed about 1750 lbs. It won the WRC championship 1974, 75 and 76. A new Stratos (2005) was being created by a German and Austrian and it has 4.3 liter Ferrari V8. 533 bhp. $1 million.
Beautiful car btw
Matt: "Yeah Lambo is owned by Volkswagen now" Joe: "Oh so they are more reliable now". Joe clearly has NEVER owned a VW.
More reliable then older Lambo
Yeah but Audi is more reliable than Ferrari and more reliable than VW
@@_baller well, actually no
It's not a matter of whether VWs are reliable. It's whether they're more reliable than the Lambo has been, historically. :)
A.J. Hart I'll go with....yes
That was the first time joe ever heard of a timing belt.
Yeah I don't know why they're talking as if only old Ferraris have cambelts
LOL
Joe knows shit about cars. Never pushed a wrench in his life and it shows
@@rustyshackleford7265 Is this supposed to be a bad thing or something?
@@Krytern
It is if he's running his mouth about shit he has no clue about
If I remember correctly David Lee wanted to use a F40 engine in his Dino but it was proving too difficult to fit everything into the Dino’s small engine bay without major modification so they decided to use the naturally aspirated 3.6 liter V8 from the 360. Without the turbos and intercoolers the 3.6 liter fit better and was less demanding than the F40’s engine.
Matt Farah & Joe Rogan are such great car guys! Wonderful interaction. I could watch stuff like this 24/7!
I’v talked to enough supercar owners and dealers at work and car shows to know that Lamborghini owners are way douchier than Ferrari owners in person.
The majority of people who buy entry level super cars are usually just doing it for the status symbol and don’t know much about cars but the rare collectors are often genuine people from my experience.
Exactly, but the saddest thing is that people who are not into cars think that all of those who love supercars do that because of status symbol (which is the majority I guess), but there is a lot of people really interested into cars as an extraordinary and complex technology object in which art and performances melt together
The term “entry level super car” is hilarious
Yes :D :D :D
Wrong. As an owner, and someone surrounded by tons of other exotic owners, Ferrari owners, on average, are the bigger douchebags. They are much more likely to be the types to look down their nose at everything that's not Ferrari and scoff at you.
@@GoesSlow exactly. The biggest douchebags I’ve met in the car community is Ferrari owners, mustang owners(specifically GT500 owners) viper owners, corvette owners, and GTR owners can be really cool but also kinda douchey but it’s low key, they low key think they are better than everyone else bc they have a GTR but at least they keep it to themselves, they aren’t flaming douchebags like Shelby owners
“458s took a massive leap in reliability” I’ve never seen so many online images of one particular supercar on fire.
No it wasn't a very common thing and was related to some heat shielding they put on the rear fender liners. The adhesive they used was apparently flammable and in some cases resulted in "thermal incidents". It was quickly updated where they/we removed the adhesive and riveted the heat shields in place.
Todd Simone using flammable adhesive sort of goes against the definition of reliability if it causes your 458 to spontaneously combust. Having a recall after your pride and joy goes up in flames probably wasn’t consolation to those who lost their car prior to the recall. Let’s just hope they had third party spontaneous fire and theft insurance 😆
Porsche: hold my beer
Fuck Trump!
I’ve had my 458 for 3 years now, and I could drive it every day if I wanted to.
The builder of David Lee's car originally used a 360 engine, but Lee's car used an f40 engine with the turbo's removed.
Joe is stoned and Matt is on coke. Lmao and they just chill and hangout.
Hahaha that's just how Matt usually is.
Adderall*
Matt isn’t on coke, I think. He’s big on smoking (hence the name). This is his usual self in his own podcasts as well
And youre on meth. You make a great trio
@@creativecrabsbeach5498Meth? Where the fuck did that come from? We was all having good fun and joking around, you should try it sometime. This guy's mad because I have more like on this comment then he has on his entire channel. Lmao go to hell.
I had a 2004 Ferrari 360 it was a very smooth car. I just bought a 2004 Lamborghini Gallardo and that thing is rough riding. But from what I research the Gallardo is more reliable so we will see how it goes as time goes on.
The 1st gen Gallardo has always been one of my favorite exotics. If I ever get to the point where I have super car money I’d definitely try and get one myself.
ThePhobophile
Make a list of cars and start going for it that's what I did. Might come sooner then you think.
I work on Ferrari's everyday and love them very much, will never own one but get to fully disassemble and modify them. Wonderful cars to tune
can you work on mine when i need it , i still ahve 4 years of warranty left
Lucky you! I'd love to be you!
I used to design them.
@@787brx8 very very cool, what years?
@@jimjawz The Testarossa until A little bit into the future are some of my designs.
The Testarossa was designed while I was writing Miami Vice. Many of the songs used in the series were also written at that time.
I have also designed vehicles for many other manufacturers including aerospace.
I don't write anymore, so there is no need to design anymore. However I have made some recent breakthroughs in the last year just for the fun of it.
The R8 was designed for Iron Man.
The Camero was designed for Transformers along with other vehicles in the movies.
Dodges for the movie Twister.
Some engines/drivetrains that I named similarly are VTEC, Vortec, Voltec, Duratec, Ecotec and Ecoboost.
I keep A low profile but you can find some free information on my RUclips page. Try it out, if you want to?
The best looking Ferrari ever made is without a doubt the f355 Berlinetta. Imo most timeless as well
Robert In der Weide 308 was the most successful. By far best looking
Nah the 512TR looks better
Imagine Clarkson, May and The little one show up at Joe's
Remember the time Farah didn’t know he was in a Datsun Ferrari replica?
I wonder what Alex Jones knows about Ferrari
Enzo Ferrari turned *THE FREAKING FROGS GAY!*
Mutten Mong need to get on asking him asap
Alan Kohn yeah, the American automobile industry is under attack, dark forces have taken over the wheel, and with flat tyres we are in for a ride
One thing is for certain, there’s a supplement u can take to get a Ferrari
If ou invert and reverse the logo it looks very similar to an ancient engraving of an impaild horse.
Ferrerri was a known Satanist, proberly, thats what the classic Red and Yellow colours are supposed to signal.
Buy the car you literally join a satainic undergroup, Alex might say.
7:30 We just gonna float past that Ferrari impression. 😂
That last comment matt made about 4.0L porches with manual gearbox being the best modern combo couldnt be more true.
i love you matt what a GOAT
2010 is like the golden years of till now in build quality
That seems to be the case for many major luxury/sports car manufacturers.
David Lee, Bev Hils Jeweler and F Car friend of Jay Leno. This car has been on Leno RUclips show. And it IS a F40 Block to start with…
Bill Conway someone needs to get this to the top
The market for manual transmission is just disappearing.
1. The people who know how to drive stick are disappearing along with the enjoyment and connectivity of a manual.
2. Manufactures won't justify cost of producing manuals for such a dwindling fan base especially considering the numbers game of acceleration times. Why build cars with slower numbers.
A great breakdown of the history of manufacturers & components in absolute simple terms 👌🏻
You should have David Lee on. Amazing car collector. And just from watching him on Leno's show, it was a F40 3.6 that was bored out to 4.0.
The 2UZFE uses a timing belt, but outside of changing it every 100K the motor is solid.
Ditto 1UZ and the JZ/M series as well..
Except in Ferraris they advertise changing it like every 30K. " Most cars with rubber timing belts use 80-100,000 mile service intervals but the belts Ferrari sourced only last for a 1/4 of those miles."
www.ferraricraft.com/2016/09/308-major-service/
there's a reason some stock vintage ferraris go for 40 million+. imagine if the owners modified them, they'd be worth shit. that's why nodody does it. way outta ya lane joe.
Jason Trabbold That’s true for a lot of special cars, but the cheaper Ferrari’s aren’t special cars really, they just make them money to race and build the cooler shit.
That "some" is a really big word in your argument. If you think a Dino is some multi million vintage Ferrari, you should try to google a bit.
anyone who doesn't want an improved car does not understand the whole idea of performance cars.
It maybe that Ferrari buyers are looking at ownership as more of an investment. Which is fine, I guess but, it feels like a shame to think many of these cars don't get used for that which they were designed.
@@matthewheffernan3877 Ferrari's can't be improved
Belt drives on valvetrains are used because of less friction losses and lighter rotational mass. Belts and respective tensioners are maybe 1/3 of the weight of the equivalent in chain driven valvetrains.
Belts don’t stretch, chains do, so although belts need to be changed, they’re more reliable in terms of performance.
I want the whole video!!! Love Matt miss those sick matte sunglasses and his one take reviews of cars
Those matte sunglasses are made by Dillon Optics
- Jaime pull up a timing belt. Image of Tim Sylvia with his UFC belt on in his jeans appears...
I know absulotely nothing about cars but I enjoy listening to Farah talk about them, dude is so enthusiastic and knowledgeable about them that I can't help but listen in.
"It's almost like a Corvette"
- Joe Rogan, 2019
Finding out someone's a car guywho you didn't expect to be one is such a good feeling
joe rogan interviews joe rogan, but with a beard...
Joe Farrah and Matt Rogan
In the beginning of the video I thought Joe speaks with him self))
I fell in love with the Testarosa because I played Out Run as a kid
Ferrari is the rare exception where the company had to wait for the founder to die before they could actually build a decent product.
Sad but true. Enzo was an asshole, and he didnt give a shit about road cars. I understand he only wanted to race, but people loved his shit and wanted a piece of what he built. He did give us the F40 before he passed though.
@@nitrous36 yeah he gave us one of the greatest models ever so....
s n Ferraris are shit boxes. Look over a Testarossa and it has kit car quality. 355/360s are the most unimpressive pieces of shit ever. Some of the newer Ferraris are nice, but their road cars have been kind of joke for most of their history.
@@BC08 Agreed. They were the marketing department that Apple envied.
"ive heard that car that car lives here"
"really no way?"
"yeah that car lives in los angeles"
"have you tried dmt?"
"no but epstein didnt kill himself"
Lmao
😂
It's ALIVEEEE
David Lee (the Ferrari Dino´s owner Said its a F40 Block, not a complete Engine as Matt Farah said.
Belts dont stretch like chains, more consistent timing
Fwrrari-owner's of Japan must be the deviation of Ferrari owners then. Lots of videos on youtube with insanely modified Ferraris in Japan. Quite fascinating.
Godless heathens
They do the same to lambos.. there’s a place in heaven for those guys. They treat their Italian Supercars like jdm sport cars lol
I love Ferrari sooooo much, it's history, patient, love, art. Freaking beautiful
You guys are absolutely right. I used to be a big Ferrari fanboy. That ended once I realized these things. Even their racing team, they will embrace their most hated rivals just to win. You know what, if I'm in the position to buy one, I'll just go get a Lamborghini or Porsche without needing to be on a special list for the privilege of buying a car. Just walk in, buy one and do whatever you want with it.
You can't just buy a lamborghini or porsche nowadays either
@@oxfordbambooshootify A standard Lambo or Porsche, not really. There might be a wait for the production, but if there's a car in the showroom anybody can buy it. They do have some special edition cars where that's true. You probably had to be on a list to buy a Sian or 918 .
There's a conversation we can all relate to.
Joe Rogan should get a 911R... best modern manual car I’ve ever driven!
Yo this shit is captivating...I have no idea what they’re talkin about but I was full on it lol 😂
Ferrari's n shit
Rarri's n ish
Yep..😬😂
@Manny ESCO same lmao
Neither do they
I'm not sure, but I think my Chevy Aveo has a sewing machine engine.
Hmmm they are tough as nails literally check out NEUTRAL DROP channels aveo.
@@CRAPO2011 The key cylinder dropped out of the driver's side door a few months ago.
@@HeatherSpoonheim Should be a cheap replacement, they still sold the aveo globally until 2018. Had one as a rental in 2017 fuel mileage was horrible for such a small car.
That sounds like something Jeremy Clarkson would say 😂
Ok, that was awesome
Please have more episodes with Matt
Loved this entire podcast.
Matt, timing chains also wear out, and they cost three times as much to replace while not lasting as long. For a Ferrari it makes sense because they never get driven and chains don’t rot just from sitting in a garage. For a car that actually gets used, belts are fine.
Are you confused? Timing chains usually last the life of the vehicle, unless it's been terribly misused.
@@calincampbell5637 Use Google. There is no trivial number of engines equipped with timing chains that have to be replaced nearly as frequently as belts. These are mostly overhead cam engines like you find in Ferraris.
@@michaelw6277 I stand corrected. I only have experience with pushrod engines and have never ever had a timing chain issue. But I can see how it could be a problem with ohc. My apologies
@@calincampbell5637 oh yeah, short timing chains in pushrod engines last forever. Cheap and easy to replace too, if ever actually necessary.
matts the kind of guy to ask what kind of cars you like then answer for you haha
Good discussion! Belt vs chain timing? I drive an A6 which is chain and the problem I believe is the tensioners
F40 has a 2.9L v8, I'm really sure you can hear an see the difference between the two. Alot of car companies during the 80's went an tried to only use timing belts, failed an went back to timing belt an timing chains.
Ferrari this Lamborghini that...
I think I’ll take my ol’ Honda out for a spin after this 🚙 💨
kombijr strongest engines
Spirited driving :D
Ill admit that while I cant afford a Ferrari, Lamborghini or Porsche. And likely never will. Sometimes I try to drive the cars that I can in the spirit of one lol.
kombijr Do you feel important yet?
J C I’m feeling quite Decadent 🚬🧐 🎩🥃
Timing belts was the dumbest things to ever come into the car world
Joseph Andreuccetti they are quieter...but as a guy with an interference engine running on a timing belt-agreed
I cannot agree more emphatically.
@@barlux88 You driving an F car? Is that the only interference engine?
Lol timing chain guide issues vs. Timing belt replacement cost. I'll taking belts all day.
@@derekdlick2516 that's not even a thing unless it's poorly designed or terribly abused.
Maintenance is really not much different between belt and chain as chains need maintenance too. The tensioner /guides wear out and chains do stretch. Parts for chain maintenance are more expensive than belt but upside is that they will not snap.
belts are lighter and quieter than chains. Also, chains need to be replaced just like belts, although less frequently.
Legend has it said that Matt Farah is Roe Jogan....
Rogan calling anyone a douche is hilarious considering the company he keeps lol
little bit of a pot/kettle situation.
Takes one to know one, I guess
I wish joe would talk more about that C2 corvette he owns!
Being Joe Rogan has to be the best thing in the world
He works in things he's passionate about and his best friends are the best at their own professions.
Nobody:
Joe Rogan: I love that mechnical feel, where you know you can feel the car and the road and row your own gears. raaaaaaaaarrrrrr grrrrrr raaaaaaaarrrrrr.
7:29 - 7:32 Sums it all up. You’re Welcome.
Ferrari are glued together. Seen a couple at the body shop. Not as nice as I had imagined when I started looking closer
I watched this and all i can think about is Matt’s face driving the C8 😂
Damn joe....You talking bout Ur boi Brendon like that🤣
Schaub will probably trade in the Ferrari now for, a Tesla. Or drop a Benji on the CyberTruck preorder... "Its only 100 bucks!". Joe will say " you shoulda got the Roadster".
F40 engine in a Dino would be like putting a Voodoo V8 in a Focus SE if you could
That would be cool, although the Voodoo makes more HP all motor than the F40 does with twins, so the Focus would be cooler from a engine perspective.
Voodoo swap the Dino and you’d have the best Ferrari V8 ever.
The Dino was not fast off the start but could go fast and had a great top end . My old boss had two of them. I drove one, 1972 246 gt
Id love to see Producer Michael on the JRE. would be class
Not all of them are bad, I just sold my Ferrari and moved over to McLaren. When at meets and special events I’d say it was a 50/50 mix of actual enthusiasts and guys just buying for the status. So far I’m loving the McLaren more BUT Ferrari was my first exotic, a dream come true, and the screaming FPC V8 sounds like no other.
My buddy worked as a mechanic at a local high end garage that worked on Ferrari's, Lambo's etc etc and he would show me the total destruction these idiot owners would do to these poor cars. I remember one story where the customer literally said he didn't know you were suppose to use the clutch peddle when shifting...
So how did he even start the car and put it in gear? Lmfao
@@diablocls55 I forget the details, this was in the early 2000's but I'm assuming he wasn't using the clutch to shift or something you weren't suppose to do. I remember his shop had one of Shaq's convertible Ferrari's and they had to remove the seat brakets and mount them to the floor and the back head rests were taller than the windshield.
These two are a great vibing pair
I love the 458 italia