I'm glad to see this puck finally yieIded a workable piece of metal. i'm very interested to see how this finishes up and gets heat treated. always appreciate your videos, i learn so much from your videos without the distraction of words and voiceovers. i've been subscribed since you made the first witcher sword and were using leaf springs to forge since that is what i also use. keep up the informative and inspiring work.
adding some mild steel to the mix may help it become more workable although the ratio of low carbon to high carbon would need to be determined thru trial and error would i be correct in that assumption?
I'm not a smith (a bad shoulder limits me to watching a lot of smithing vids), but I have a question ... you seemed to start with cut up chunks of steel (to which you appeared to add borax and crushed glass), whereas i thought the more classic method of crucible steel was to take the best iron ore you can lay your hands on (ideally with a high iron percentage like hematite, as well as low sulphur and low phosphorus content), grind it up, optionally supplement it with some powdered steel (purely to increase yeild, not for historical accuracy) and then proceed as before. I'm curious as to how the results differ between both approaches.
What happened with the last 2 attempts? Ive never seen anyone use smelted refined steel before. Only iron ore, glass, silica and carbon all weighed out carefully.
Cooling steel down in sand makes it cool very slow and is called normalizing. It refines the grain structure of the steel and takes out the stresses the steel was put under while forging. It also makes the steel dead soft.
For us that don't know squat about it, I wish there was some explanation of what you're doing and why. I've seen many knives forged, but why so many times back to the crucible heat? Why not simply cast the metal into a bar shape to begin with, then make the sword from that? What is the glass all about, keeping air out? Why start with steel that probably isn't the best for what you want to do? Seems to me, if you want to make a blade that ill take and hold an edge, why not melt down old style razor blades? The moly in the steel would make it a more likely steel to use... so a novice thinks anyway.
Still very interesting and a great forward step towards woozts. Next to mix ore and ‘leafs’ (carbon) in your crucible. The refining looks to be quite complex, but good luck. I hope it goes well.
Freerk Wieringa I went on a wootz making course in Plymouth about 15yrs ago. It was all abit complex, I’m happy pattern welding. I think the different ores produce different patterns.
Oh my fucking G O D ! ! ! Please make it an Ulfberht. I'd love to see it become one. Or turn it into your own style of sword, just include the ULFBERH+T sign on the blade.
Freerk Wieringa I’ve been acquiring tools and stock to try make a few knives via stock removal I’ve got myself some bissalloy what’s your thoughts on it as a knife blade?
Freerk Wieringa from what I found on net it’s used as wear plates on earth moving equipment so it’s very hard And I think cold working too I bought a plasma cutter to cut out blanks and grind into shape can’t wait to get started and also to see the end result of your new project
Mr. Wieringa, glad to see you have put together a viable recipe. I hope you like the carbon content. You have inspired me to build a furnace to try this. I am glad to see your sword came out as well. I can't wait to see how it looks after an acid bath. Question if you canister welded powder 1095 and a nickel Stella powder do you think that the pattern would be like salt and pepper? Just an idea I was thinking about.. Cheers, Martin
I'm not sure if we have determined that there is actual iron ore on Mars. Otherwise, if one was marooned there, not sure what they could make. @@freerkwieringa275
looking good looks very hard you seem to struggle to move it by hand a bit, sparks are very small as well hope you have a test piece to see how its going to harden up?
no it did not this time, it was a bit cracked beforehand. if you cast the steel it will be a very brittle sword, the forging is part of the process that makes the steel very tough.
Aye, I didn't mean into a mould of a sword but a billet shaped mould, then forge it. You used glass to seal the billet in the crucible for air? Anyway, that way the crucible would not have been broken.
I know that it's not typically your style of a video but could you put a small description of some of the compounds, grits, etc.? Even something as simple as just showing the name of the products or something; like the Bernax. Great work again, by the way!
I get that. You've been producing quite a bit of videos recently, too. I follow your feeds and you seem to be always on the move with something. Hell, I appreciate you taking the time to respond to my questions. Well, give my suggestion of just showing what you're using for a brief moment. Keep up the good work; I learn a lot from watching what you do. I've even implemented the bolster pinning in one of my recent knives and that idea came from you!
NepsejNesnhoj wootz is very high carbon. I am not a fan of high carbon steel for swords I prefer the carbon content around 0.7. Also I like very high alloy steel. I am interested in mimicking the contents of meteorite steel
From what I understand from that documentary of the ulfberht, it's also incredibly finicky to work with, as you need to be incredibly careful or the ingot will just crack or shatter if you hammer it even a little bit too hard. This ingot also looked a bit more... porous than the previous one, was that a good sign?
Locahaskatexu there are allot of different types of ulfberht swords some with very high carbon some with very low. The higher the carbon content the lower the melting point. High carbon content makes the forge able temperature range very narrow like 750/850 c. Ideally the carbon content for a sword would be 0.5/0.8. Also high nickle meteorite alloys where used.
This is also called super steel i think its really britle in high temps so need to properly mantain the temp but i like your work its so clean and you make it look as easy
Most pattern welded damascus (usually made from 2 types of high carbon steel differing mostly in nickel content, for visual contrast) is not really considered a "Supersteel" per se, which is a somewhat vague and bastardized term. AFAIK, it usually refers to modern high tech high performance specialty alloys with the highest level performance characteristics. If I had to guess, a damascus blade of this type (read: high carbon steel) probably hardens to around HRC 56-58ish. Maybe a smidge higher if the heat treatment is truly masterful. Most supersteels (again, AFAIK) generally start around HRC 60 and move up from there (i've seen blades rated as high as 68, but theyre likely prone to chipping at that lavel). Stuff like ZDP189, SV30, VG10, A2 blue (not white), et al. I am not a metallurgist, so take that with a grain of salt.
@@NKG416 Metallurgy (and materials science in general) has been advancing in leaps and bounds in response to parallel advances in advanced microscopy and atomic level computational modelling. It's exciting watch.
Nice forging job, but it's anti climactic.....Without the blade being heat treated and polished, we can't see if you managed to create the great wootz pattern or if you just carbonized mild steel......
I replied to the last email but havent heard back from you. I know you are very busy and I am in no hurry but would like to place an order and arrange payment for a knife and scabbard/sheth.
Freerk Wieringa No problem, if I dont hear from you over the weekend I will email you on Monday afternoon and comment here to let you know its sent. Have a great weekend
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"Auhh" was the first sound I've ever heard him make 10/10
Thank you for the awesome videos. Love your shop!!!
I'm in complete awe of your work... I highly enjoy watching your videos...
Cant believe someone finally did it! Well done and thanks for sharing!
I'm glad to see this puck finally yieIded a workable piece of metal. i'm very interested to see how this finishes up and gets heat treated.
always appreciate your videos, i learn so much from your videos without the distraction of words and voiceovers. i've been subscribed since you made the first witcher sword and were using leaf springs to forge since that is what i also use. keep up the informative and inspiring work.
As always love your Channel it's very informative
I definitely think getting it up to welding heat, or near that could make the initial shaping a bit easier for these.
awesome. thank you for your continuous awesomeness.
This seems like a very interesting experiment. Can't wait to see how it all turns out.
Сколько же труда и усилий,чтоб проковать эту литую сталь(булат,можно сказать)..👍
That made my arms ache just watching! Awesome.
I cannot wait to see the etch on that thing !
Magnifique, très beaux travail 🖒 un gros j'aime
adding some mild steel to the mix may help it become more workable although the ratio of low carbon to high carbon would need to be determined thru trial and error would i be correct in that assumption?
One question, do you think that you can fold weld it like ancient Chinese bentie steel? Or is that still a future project
I’m going to be watching all of these taking notes :)
Is the white powder in the mystery bucket borax?
How long did you have to hammer it before it was workable? (That stuff is not easy to break up!)
did it produce the dendritic patterns that wootz is known for? any new progress?
I'm not a smith (a bad shoulder limits me to watching a lot of smithing vids), but I have a question ... you seemed to start with cut up chunks of steel (to which you appeared to add borax and crushed glass), whereas i thought the more classic method of crucible steel was to take the best iron ore you can lay your hands on (ideally with a high iron percentage like hematite, as well as low sulphur and low phosphorus content), grind it up, optionally supplement it with some powdered steel (purely to increase yeild, not for historical accuracy) and then proceed as before. I'm curious as to how the results differ between both approaches.
That still looks like a mild steel spark.. Can it get a higher carbon content with crucible steel?
Good job man
Very cool.
What happened with the last 2 attempts? Ive never seen anyone use smelted refined steel before. Only iron ore, glass, silica and carbon all weighed out carefully.
Very Best!
Goed om te zien dat je deze keer de powerhamer gebruikt :)
Can you explain what the sand is for? Usually I see steel quenched in water a lot, but i'm unfamiliar with this technique. Great vids, thanks!
Cooling steel down in sand makes it cool very slow and is called normalizing. It refines the grain structure of the steel and takes out the stresses the steel was put under while forging. It also makes the steel dead soft.
Is this gonna be a modern Ulfberth? Looks great!
Incredible Freerk! I look forward to watch the next episode on this series! Greetings from Argentina.
For us that don't know squat about it, I wish there was some explanation of what you're doing and why. I've seen many knives forged, but why so many times back to the crucible heat? Why not simply cast the metal into a bar shape to begin with, then make the sword from that? What is the glass all about, keeping air out? Why start with steel that probably isn't the best for what you want to do? Seems to me, if you want to make a blade that ill take and hold an edge, why not melt down old style razor blades? The moly in the steel would make it a more likely steel to use... so a novice thinks anyway.
that is some hard stuff, holy hell
What can you do with a crucible steel blade that you can't do with a blade made from a truck spring?
What kind of flux do you use?
So tell us about your amazing shop. It looks like a total blacksmith shop. Do you make blades after hours of is it exclusive to knife making?
DLB Knives most of the time I Smith blades, but I also make robotics.
Waiting to see a wootz pattern etched.
Also did you put the "end grain" in the tang?
The steel is not high carbon, it is more like meteorite steel.
Still very interesting and a great forward step towards woozts.
Next to mix ore and ‘leafs’ (carbon) in your crucible. The refining looks to be quite complex, but good luck. I hope it goes well.
Ben Roper maybe. I see some people doing this the ancient way. Very cool and interesting.
Freerk Wieringa I went on a wootz making course in Plymouth about 15yrs ago.
It was all abit complex, I’m happy pattern welding.
I think the different ores produce different patterns.
That is starting to look like that thing you "cannot confirm or deny" from Part 1... :) :) :) :)
i cannot confirm or deny that.
either way, love your videos, its very calming to just hear the work and background noise.
Oh my fucking G O D ! ! !
Please make it an Ulfberht. I'd love to see it become one. Or turn it into your own style of sword, just include the ULFBERH+T sign on the blade.
Do you increase the forging temp each heat?
yes i did.
What is the purpose of the chain wrapped around the anvil?
It deadens the ring when striking
Awesome work as always mate...
Just curious if u gave it heat and cooling cycles as u worked it or did u just forge it out?
the carbon content in this steel is not that high as wootz, so i had some leeway, bit after the first annealing fase it really forged better.
Freerk Wieringa I’ve been acquiring tools and stock to try make a few knives via stock removal
I’ve got myself some bissalloy what’s your thoughts on it as a knife blade?
CHARLES BRONSON I think it is probably a cold working steel like hardox. I think it is though but I don't know how hard it is.
Freerk Wieringa from what I found on net it’s used as wear plates on earth moving equipment so it’s very hard
And I think cold working too
I bought a plasma cutter to cut out blanks and grind into shape can’t wait to get started and also to see the end result of your new project
CHARLES BRONSON yes it is hard. But probably not as hard as hard able steel. You have to look for the specs. And check the Rockwell hardness.
are you going to be making an ulfbehrt or something?
Menno Eijkelenboom could be...
Are you going to finish this... most intriguing video so far
Show !!!!!!!
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Mr. Wieringa, glad to see you have put together a viable recipe. I hope you like the carbon content. You have inspired me to build a furnace to try this. I am glad to see your sword came out as well. I can't wait to see how it looks after an acid bath. Question if you canister welded powder 1095 and a nickel Stella powder do you think that the pattern would be like salt and pepper? Just an idea I was thinking about.. Cheers, Martin
maybe/probably, it depends on the heat I guess. i have never canister welded, they say you can work with lower temperatures as it is in a vacuum.
Interesting very interesting. Perhaps you should try it as well since you have never done a canister welded steel.. Martin
Where is the final heat treated product?
Imagine a san mai kitchen knife out of this one
here you can see our first mars colonist try to make steel from ancient method called "crucible steel"
I'm Bored would be cool to make one with steel from mars.
I'm not sure if we have determined that there is actual iron ore on Mars. Otherwise, if one was marooned there, not sure what they could make. @@freerkwieringa275
Continue filmando! Amigo.
looking good looks very hard you seem to struggle to move it by hand a bit, sparks are very small as well hope you have a test piece to see how its going to harden up?
unfortunately not.. i just had enough for a normal sword size.
Did the crucible survive the removal of the steel? I'm just wondering why you did not pour it into a mould
no it did not this time, it was a bit cracked beforehand. if you cast the steel it will be a very brittle sword, the forging is part of the process that makes the steel very tough.
Casting a steel blade is a Hollywood myth.
On the other hand, you can cast a bronze blade, and that is how they were made historically.
Aye, I didn't mean into a mould of a sword but a billet shaped mould, then forge it.
You used glass to seal the billet in the crucible for air?
Anyway, that way the crucible would not have been broken.
Is the crucible a one use only thing?
no, sometimes they crack, so they are lost, but most of the time they can be re-used some times.
What was the final result?
I might be wrong, but arent u supposed to centerpunch the puck and forge it out to a bar?
no not at all. everybody has different methodes. it totally depends if you have impurity or a air hole in the center, then it is useful.
I know that it's not typically your style of a video but could you put a small description of some of the compounds, grits, etc.? Even something as simple as just showing the name of the products or something; like the Bernax. Great work again, by the way!
Jason Rinaldo yes that would be helpful. The problem is the complete lack of time I have.
I get that. You've been producing quite a bit of videos recently, too. I follow your feeds and you seem to be always on the move with something. Hell, I appreciate you taking the time to respond to my questions. Well, give my suggestion of just showing what you're using for a brief moment. Keep up the good work; I learn a lot from watching what you do. I've even implemented the bolster pinning in one of my recent knives and that idea came from you!
Is the glass enough to keep oxygen away from the steel?
i also use a bit of borax.
I guess since you use carbon steel to begin with it is of less importance than if you made steel out of iron (wootz).
NepsejNesnhoj wootz is very high carbon. I am not a fan of high carbon steel for swords I prefer the carbon content around 0.7. Also I like very high alloy steel. I am interested in mimicking the contents of meteorite steel
From what I understand from that documentary of the ulfberht, it's also incredibly finicky to work with, as you need to be incredibly careful or the ingot will just crack or shatter if you hammer it even a little bit too hard. This ingot also looked a bit more... porous than the previous one, was that a good sign?
Locahaskatexu there are allot of different types of ulfberht swords some with very high carbon some with very low. The higher the carbon content the lower the melting point. High carbon content makes the forge able temperature range very narrow like 750/850 c. Ideally the carbon content for a sword would be 0.5/0.8. Also high nickle meteorite alloys where used.
This is also called super
steel i think its really britle in high temps so need to properly mantain the temp but i like your work its so clean and you make it look as easy
Most pattern welded damascus (usually made from 2 types of high carbon steel differing mostly in nickel content, for visual contrast) is not really considered a "Supersteel" per se, which is a somewhat vague and bastardized term. AFAIK, it usually refers to modern high tech high performance specialty alloys with the highest level performance characteristics. If I had to guess, a damascus blade of this type (read: high carbon steel) probably hardens to around HRC 56-58ish. Maybe a smidge higher if the heat treatment is truly masterful. Most supersteels (again, AFAIK) generally start around HRC 60 and move up from there (i've seen blades rated as high as 68, but theyre likely prone to chipping at that lavel). Stuff like ZDP189, SV30, VG10, A2 blue (not white), et al.
I am not a metallurgist, so take that with a grain of salt.
@@RovingPunster yes the super steel definition is expanded,rendering this crucible steel obsolete
@@NKG416 Metallurgy (and materials science in general) has been advancing in leaps and bounds in response to parallel advances in advanced microscopy and atomic level computational modelling. It's exciting watch.
@@RovingPunster indeed it is!
looks like tough stuff
yes it is.
What is the point of melting the steel in the crucible? Are you producing a different type of steel or reproducing a traditional method of making it?
Spam Cannon to investigate the old way of steel making. And to enrich existing alloys.
Freerk Wieringa - Thanks. 👍
U enrich with what ? carbon, from what source ?
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He's full of schite. He got bored and wanted to claim he made a sword outta crucible steel.
@@johan2ofinlohigh791 You're a douchebag.
Awesome work man... What are the advantages of crucible steel?
MrCoolink the possibility of making your own preferd mixture. And maybe a pattern depening on the alloy and working processes
Nice... Waiting to see this sword done... Congrats...
It sounds like red hard shit to forge Rhine smiths must have used water wheel trip hammers wonderful skill I'm very impressed!
Do you know why the crucible became red?
Ey we got the same grinder haha
Mr green.. Why you put borax?
Where is part 4?
You did it
hello will we have the pleasure of seeing you one day forged a Gladius Roman, I can not imagine that beauty you could create Please Please Please
Nice forging job, but it's anti climactic.....Without the blade being heat treated and polished, we can't see if you managed to create the great wootz pattern or if you just carbonized mild steel......
Well looks like there is going to be part 4
what is that gas mask thing he wears?
It looks hard to work with
crucible steel is very fragile in ingot form and if you hit it too hard too fast it could crumble you just have to take your time and be gentle on it
Why do people put chain on their anvils?
it lowers the high pitching sounds
Freerk Wieringa. Ok cool. Thanks a lot
This steel seems very hard.
i would say though.
3st time charm
Ass ton of work forging that pig out....nice work
0:44 I'm willing to bet you are missing a few arm hairs.
sincerely this video was not very good like the others you did but it's worth dude
I replied to the last email but havent heard back from you. I know you are very busy and I am in no hurry but would like to place an order and arrange payment for a knife and scabbard/sheth.
Allan Larmour I will check. It could be the mail was misplaced in the trash.
Freerk Wieringa No problem, if I dont hear from you over the weekend I will email you on Monday afternoon and comment here to let you know its sent. Have a great weekend
what i do not understand is why are you melting steel. if you melt iron and turn it into steel i can understand?
Hüseyin Hüsnü Madenli he’s melting different grades to produce a certain trate
?????? are you sure. is it necessary at all
Hüseyin Hüsnü Madenli his last video he explains he’s trying to produce a lower carbon steel wootz steel
melting steel mat not produce it at all
Hüseyin Hüsnü Madenli you’ll have to ask him about it I guess
Do you black smith/ forge?
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First! :)