I'm so happy I randomly subscribed to a channel about something I had absolutely no interest in, no idea how anything about it worked... A really random and happy encounter. Awesome stuff
Guilherme, I feel in love with this stuff by accident too! I somehow fell into this channel randomly and I've been binge watching a ton of forging stuff ever since! I never had any interested in forging until I came across this.
Hey, maybe put in texts in your video's if you can, Like i wonder what did you use for base metals, how long did you run the furnise. Verder altijd mooie dingen die je maakt !!
I could watch this stuff all day! Fascinating to say the least. I don’t have to tell you to make something cool, because that is what you do. Can’t wait
I am an Artist who's worked with the general mediums like wood, fibres, plastics, paints etc but never anything with metals..I sit entranced every single time I watch your smithing. Amazing work and such fine craftsmanship!
Would brushing the interior of the crucible with liquid paper (read: white correction fluid) before adding the charge help everything to release more easily after firing ? If it works for mosaic damascus i'm guesson it should work for crucible steel.
reminded me about the secret of wootz video from mike loades, if i remember correctly they used a similar process. Are you expecting to find a wootz pattern? exciting stuff, great video!
curious to what he put in the crucible, looked like mild steel, and cast iron? That would certainly average out the carbon, but i'm used to seeing just mild steel, or wrought, and graphite added with glass at top, or some high carbon bearing material like ground charcoal.
Kevin Garcia i hope ya know the swords name.was only an inlay and miss spelt lots over 100s of years due to ppl many moons ago tryin to copy a master smith like our floki 😉
you sir are naive, there are several hundred original Ulfberht in various museums and they were not just a name but a very particular style and production method... and you obviously do not understand metallurgy because crucible steel sword is not a "pored" sword, its first formed into a puck then forged to shape which straightens it. Get learned once again, a Viking Style Sword ≠ Ulfberht
The Mad Man -At- Duncan Junction you see people do that. But the steel shrinks when cooling down. It is laying loos under the glass layer. I wanted to show that.
Philip Dunn this was the first try. I made some changes and am almost ready for the next. Have to reduce the carbon content as Far as I can. Preferably around 1% not aiming to make wootz.... But the heat required is extreme.
Metallurgic investigations have revealed that wootz contains trace elements like vanadium. The process of refining steel and obtain wootz is very complicated and has been a secret through the ages. A lot of knowledge had been lost when the original ores were no longer available.
Yeah, I read something about that, I forget where. These guys had supposedly been able to replicate it. Their process was VERY similar though... The broken glass, the crucible sealed with the clay, all that stuff.... I assume that's what Freerk was trying to do....
@@1959Berre From discussions, I'm not convinced it's vanadium, which Pendry and Verhoeven have fixated on *is* the secret sauce. Wootz is a very dirty steel, despite proclamations to the contrary on the subject of metallurgical cleanliness - primarily because historically, cleanliness has been described as a freedom from inclusions, not a freedom from tramp elements (like phosphorus). And it is the phosphorus content that is monstrous in all examples of metallurgically assessed wootz so far. There's a sample of wootz that does not display trace vanadium at all, but does contain appreciable manganese and lower phosphorus than all others. This points to phosphorus being the actual cause of wootz banding, which we already understand the mechanism for from Bessemer steel, where ferrite-pearlite aggregate steels would show bands of pearlite and bands without it, in compositions that should have been uniformly pearlitic. Manganese forced phosphorus to segregate to grain boundaries, and is usually a cause of temper embrittlement, whereas vanadium has a mild reducing effect on TE. The *very* trace values of vanadium in most wootz seem too low to even have a segregation-to-screw-dislocation effect and I've never been comfortable with their explanation...
Woah! getting the ingot out of the crucible must have been hard. Would it be possible to use iron ore and some charcoal and glass in the crucible? Thanks for the enlightening video
Mr. Wiring a I've seen this done on several occasion and others have used green glass. Is there a difference ? If so what is it. Thanks for sharing I look forward to your response. Martin
@@freerkwieringa275 there is more green bottle glass in circulation than clear...maybe it was a case of people following the first videos of the technique as closely as they could?
You don't want to use a graphite crucible. That's what it appears to be anyways. The molten iron will absorb the carbon from the graphite. I still enjoyed the video.
Ya know i love ya.. was certain you was about to speak at the start of this 😂🤣😂 just a sound . Lol mate is there some way i can pm you ? Id love to work with a master as you are . My sons 21st soon he works outdoors id love him a knife for life
la forge montagnarde yes it is. It has a high carbon content. Around 2%. It has to be forged for several days to become workable in a very narrow temperature range.
Hi Freerk I thought you might enjoy this ruclips.net/video/OP8PCkcBZU4/видео.html The Secrets of Wootz Damascus Steel The Mike Loades Channel A 50-minute documentary about the legendary Al Pendray, together with two swordsmiths from Jordan, and their quest to produce authentic wootz Damascus steel with ores mined from a historical mine in Jordan - a mine that is known to have produced weapons for Saladin himself.
Freerk Wieringa I see that for sure, you do very nice work and I can tell you take great pride in it. I can see why you would want to get it refined before you make something with it. I am looking forward to seeing the end result, thank you sir for sharing
If you're going after Wootz Damascus steel, you probably will have to go to Jordan to get the ore. But I think it's going to be interesting what you come up with. Awesome work as always.
the crucible steel still gonna use long efter take a look about krupp and his fat steel ingot, is one of the reason why the germans have good steel during the ww2
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I'm so happy I randomly subscribed to a channel about something I had absolutely no interest in, no idea how anything about it worked... A really random and happy encounter.
Awesome stuff
Guilherme, I feel in love with this stuff by accident too! I somehow fell into this channel randomly and I've been binge watching a ton of forging stuff ever since! I never had any interested in forging until I came across this.
Hey, maybe put in texts in your video's if you can, Like i wonder what did you use for base metals, how long did you run the furnise.
Verder altijd mooie dingen die je maakt !!
I could watch this stuff all day! Fascinating to say the least. I don’t have to tell you to make something cool, because that is what you do. Can’t wait
I am an Artist who's worked with the general mediums like wood, fibres, plastics, paints etc but never anything with metals..I sit entranced every single time I watch your smithing. Amazing work and such fine craftsmanship!
Hi I really hope you are planning on a part 2 to this. It ended to soon! Thanks for the video bro Anthony Kent
I have said this before.. wow you have a nice shop!
I'm always amazed that heating steel white hot, doesn't melt the weld that holds the handle in place.
great job, this is really hard to get right
i knew it! what type of swords are you making from wootz or crucible steel?
Would brushing the interior of the crucible with liquid paper (read: white correction fluid) before adding the charge help everything to release more easily after firing ?
If it works for mosaic damascus i'm guesson it should work for crucible steel.
What is the ratio of mild steel to cast you used?
What kind of clay did you use for the lid?
what is the crucible made out of?..it is some kind of ceramic?
reminded me about the secret of wootz video from mike loades, if i remember correctly they used a similar process. Are you expecting to find a wootz pattern? exciting stuff, great video!
curious to what he put in the crucible, looked like mild steel, and cast iron? That would certainly average out the carbon, but i'm used to seeing just mild steel, or wrought, and graphite added with glass at top, or some high carbon bearing material like ground charcoal.
Please add some captions. What is the white powder added to the mix? How long did you leave it in the furnace?
Experimenting with crucible steel, does this mean there is an ulfberht coming in the future? Please say YES!!!!!
Kevin Garcia ya a bit late.. watch his vids
What? You do realize that a traditional Ulfberht was mainly made with crucible steel... Viking Sword ≠ Ulfberht
Kevin Garcia i hope ya know the swords name.was only an inlay and miss spelt lots over 100s of years due to ppl many moons ago tryin to copy a master smith like our floki 😉
Kevin Garcia sorey too say anything pored wont ever be as strong as a forged blade.. but it will be just as awesome 😁
you sir are naive, there are several hundred original Ulfberht in various museums and they were not just a name but a very particular style and production method... and you obviously do not understand metallurgy because crucible steel sword is not a "pored" sword, its first formed into a puck then forged to shape which straightens it. Get learned once again, a Viking Style Sword ≠ Ulfberht
That is amazing I would have thought you would have to destroy the crucible in order to get the steel out.
The Mad Man -At- Duncan Junction you see people do that. But the steel shrinks when cooling down. It is laying loos under the glass layer. I wanted to show that.
That is very interesting that you were able to get such a clean puck from it too.
@@duncanjunctionsthemadman7418 steel sinks, junk floats
no charcoal? mixed wrought and cast?
Good job buddy, you doing it!
Philip Dunn this was the first try. I made some changes and am almost ready for the next. Have to reduce the carbon content as Far as I can. Preferably around 1% not aiming to make wootz.... But the heat required is extreme.
god damn crucible steel this stuff maybe tough to work with but damn it pays off
What's that I spy in the background at 3:22? A pattern for an extremely worn kitchen knife? :)
Looks like someone just made Wootz Damascus.... Looks like it's superhard....
Metallurgic investigations have revealed that wootz contains trace elements like vanadium. The process of refining steel and obtain wootz is very complicated and has been a secret through the ages. A lot of knowledge had been lost when the original ores were no longer available.
Yeah, I read something about that, I forget where. These guys had supposedly been able to replicate it. Their process was VERY similar though... The broken glass, the crucible sealed with the clay, all that stuff.... I assume that's what Freerk was trying to do....
@@1959Berre From discussions, I'm not convinced it's vanadium, which Pendry and Verhoeven have fixated on *is* the secret sauce. Wootz is a very dirty steel, despite proclamations to the contrary on the subject of metallurgical cleanliness - primarily because historically, cleanliness has been described as a freedom from inclusions, not a freedom from tramp elements (like phosphorus). And it is the phosphorus content that is monstrous in all examples of metallurgically assessed wootz so far. There's a sample of wootz that does not display trace vanadium at all, but does contain appreciable manganese and lower phosphorus than all others. This points to phosphorus being the actual cause of wootz banding, which we already understand the mechanism for from Bessemer steel, where ferrite-pearlite aggregate steels would show bands of pearlite and bands without it, in compositions that should have been uniformly pearlitic. Manganese forced phosphorus to segregate to grain boundaries, and is usually a cause of temper embrittlement, whereas vanadium has a mild reducing effect on TE. The *very* trace values of vanadium in most wootz seem too low to even have a segregation-to-screw-dislocation effect and I've never been comfortable with their explanation...
Woah! getting the ingot out of the crucible must have been hard. Would it be possible to use iron ore and some charcoal and glass in the crucible? Thanks for the enlightening video
So interesting sir. I am very interested I trying my hand at it.
What is the purpose of adding glass to the crucible?
Mr. Wiring a
I've seen this done on several occasion and others have used green glass. Is there a difference ? If so what is it. Thanks for sharing I look forward to your response. Martin
M&S BLADES my guess it that the green glas has a lower melting point
@@freerkwieringa275 there is more green bottle glass in circulation than clear...maybe it was a case of people following the first videos of the technique as closely as they could?
That thing is tough
can't wait for part 2
Really interesting, can you see any etch pattern maybe?
Edgar der Schmied probably. But I am more interested in Making lower carbon steel in the, end As it is better for swords.
What size crucible is that?
Was there a particular event that inspired you to become a craftsmen?
Outstanding video as always
MrGunsplosion101 I wanted to be a artist after seeing works of several illustrators, when I was young. But I also liked working with other materials.
Was that just steel you put in?
Whatever you're mixing certainly has a high carbon content. And thanks for putting that chain around the bottom of the anvil.
Seen that before. What purpose does the chain serve?
The chain dampens the ring of the anvil. They can get really really loud without them.
Very interesting! What are you going to make with this if the steel comes out nicely? Can you make me a Crucible steel SoupFork? :)
SoupFork I could. But it would be a bit more expensive that a commercial one.
Any leafs and coal?
Hola, vendes algunos cuchillos o espadas que haces??? Saludos desde argentina
You don't want to use a graphite crucible. That's what it appears to be anyways. The molten iron will absorb the carbon from the graphite. I still enjoyed the video.
By odins beard, that is Awesome.
I really to learn/do this as well!!!!!
Ðimitri Lippe it is also very hot. You would fist have to get a foundry that reaches the extreme temperatures
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At the end, I was screaming at you to heat that thing some more before trying to pound it into a billet.
Ya know i love ya.. was certain you was about to speak at the start of this 😂🤣😂 just a sound . Lol mate is there some way i can pm you ? Id love to work with a master as you are . My sons 21st soon he works outdoors id love him a knife for life
you should totally try and produce an ulfbehrt sword from recined crucible steel seeing as they were often made from such a material.
I dont know a lot of things about "homemade steels" so..this is basically wootz ?
la forge montagnarde yes it is. It has a high carbon content. Around 2%. It has to be forged for several days to become workable in a very narrow temperature range.
Commentary explaining what you are doing would have been nice
Looks harder then 01 Tool steel (Well done!) How long did you have to beat that thing before it would move? (Hours I am guessing)
mrscary3105 it takes days. But you can speed it up a bit by reducing the carbon level at the top of the material
A Hobbit Sword?
Do I sense an ulfbert???
Part two!!!!
Hot stuff lol
You should film this outside at night and in the forest. I believe it's the only way to make that fire more amazing. 🎅
i've heard grafite is slightly porous to oxygen at high temperatures
RealHogweed it is. But good for the basic stuff. The zirconia crucibles are hard to come by. Maybe later I will try to get them
Freerk Wieringa what about ceramic?
RealHogweed it melts at these temperatures
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Some people add carbon, vadieum, and calcium to it
Hi Freerk
I thought you might enjoy this
ruclips.net/video/OP8PCkcBZU4/видео.html
The Secrets of Wootz Damascus Steel
The Mike Loades Channel
A 50-minute documentary about the legendary Al Pendray, together with two swordsmiths from Jordan, and their quest to produce authentic wootz Damascus steel with ores mined from a historical mine in Jordan - a mine that is known to have produced weapons for Saladin himself.
So can’t wait to see what it becomes now
Richard Bryant this was a test. There will follow others until I am content about the results. Only then will I make something out of it.
Freerk Wieringa gotta experiment with first one to make sure it holds together and makes a good final project lol
Richard Bryant absolutely. It has to be as good as I can get it. But the first test results where good.
Freerk Wieringa I see that for sure, you do very nice work and I can tell you take great pride in it. I can see why you would want to get it refined before you make something with it. I am looking forward to seeing the end result, thank you sir for sharing
If you're going after Wootz Damascus steel, you probably will have to go to Jordan to get the ore. But I think it's going to be interesting what you come up with. Awesome work as always.
Melting iron on a concrete floor is dangerous
Sorry for butchering your last name I didn't notice until after I posted. I hate spell check lol.. Cheers.
Ulfhbert..........
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mot like the norse eithear do it by hand
whats crucible steel
steel that made in a crucible
the crucible steel still gonna use long efter take a look about krupp and his fat steel ingot,
is one of the reason why the germans have good steel during the ww2
now we have other techniques but crucible steel still are good steel in general !;
sorry for my horrible english level ^^
awesome! thank you for taking the time to explain!
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