Installation Guide for Journey's Acoustic Guitar Passive Piezo Pickup
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- Опубликовано: 20 авг 2019
- Detailed installation guide our EP001K upgradeable passive piezo pickup.
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Our passive piezo pickups feature premium grade German piezos that enable maintenance-free transparent sound amplification for stringed instruments. Available for Steel String Guitar, Ukulele, Classical Guitar (coming soon), and Bass Guitar.
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will u make one with at least a volume control knob?
Coming up soon! journeyinstruments.com/product/epa01-passive-soundhole-volume-wheel/
Just installed the EP001K in my old beat camp guitar. Oh man do I love these. For a knock off squire I bought specifically for camping, these really went well. I run a medium gauge string and have a tight cross piece at the bridge, but they went in without too much wrangling and the strap button plug in is fantastic. I control tone through the pedal board so straight at em' didn't affect me. Love the sound guy's! Will recommend.
Excellent installation guide. Just followed it to the letter (except for using a 31/64 drill bit). Even the new 20mm pickups had enough room on my Gibson Gospel. Worked on first try and sounds great after working around the feedback sensitivity. Thanks, Journey.
Glad it was so helpful!
installed myself, sounds amazing. way better than my lr baggs active pickups used by many pros at $200. Theses are better and around $35
So glad to hear that, Andrew! :D
Yes, it is possible to install these yourself, but if it's your first time I would recommend starting on a lower end guitar not your "best" guitar like I did. It turned out fine, but I put a blemish in the end of the guitar when I drilled the hole. Use high speed but push very gently and softly when drilling through hard wood so it doesn't bind, causing some damaged wood at the edge of the hole. The other thing they don't tell you is the process of getting the putty off the pickup. Maybe they expected me to leave it on as they gave me enough to use a different ball of putty for each pickup. But, I didn't leave it on. I had to rub it off and it didn't come clean, obviously. The one piece of putty worked for all three pickup heads. Also, I had to use a hack saw and very carefully cut off about 3/16ths of an inch from the barrel that covers the pick up connection where the wires run into the jack in order to have enough reach on my Martin 000-16. Just sayin'. This pick up is so good and so inexpensive that it's worth paying someone to install this if you're uncomfortable at all. I worked as a handyman all my life before I retired, so my pride wouldn't let me pay someone else to do this. The only thing I would do differently after having done it, I would get a second pickup and put the first one on my $500 Alvarez.
I just installed mine. The sound quality is really great on my Epiphone AJ45. I will say, it was tricky to install, the end pin block was so thick that even with the inside nut backed all the way out I barely had enough to grab onto. I suspect this may be problematic in the future, but we'll see. The mini jack from the transducers into the input jack was badly bent, about 20°, but it worked fine so I went ahead and installed it anyway.
Thank you
Planning on installing this on my Yamaha FG800, also love the piece in the background.
EDIT: It's installed, sounds great.
That's awesome, Ray! Glad to hear it 😊
@@journeyinstruments sounds amazing honestly after using it a few times and dialing in the right volume on my audio interface (Focusrite, had to turn off instrument in, sounds fantastic now). Nicest acoustic pup I’ve ever used.
@@rickraydubs Heck yeah, dude 😎
I just installed these in a Dean ML Ukulele. I removed the existing preamp and input jack and put this on so that I don't have to use batteries. This worked and sounds great!
So glad to hear that! :D
just installed one of these, had a lot of problems as the jack's threaded part was not long enough to fit through the end block with enough left to fit the outer parts, I had to leave off the inner jack shield cover as with it on it had to be screwed so far back the mini jack would not click in, also couldn't fit the passive volume control as the bracing around the sound hole didn't leave enough space, this was a Sigma DR 28 Martin be warned,
How do you install one on a pinless Bridge?
I have a Wurlitzer electric piano that I took the electronics out of and put in long Helpenstill custom wound pickups humbuckers which work pretty well but it would be less cumbersome to have maybe 4 piezos glued to the heavy metal bracket that the tines are attached to. I experimented with a couple of piezos I have and it seems to work excepty on the low notes below an octave below middle C. Do you have a pickup that's optomized for bass?
Hi, I just installed this pickup in my seagull and it sounds awesome, especially at this price point. However, the two high strings (e and B) sound louder than the other strings. Is there a way to correct that ? Maybe by placing the high pickup one centimeter more towards the neck ?
How to do this on nylon stringed guitat and there are no pin holes?
I just installed mine, but it has a distorted sound to it. Am I doing something wrong? What should I do?
please tell me how you are recording the music in the background!!!! it sounds so beautiful
We have links to the music in the description :)
I repair acoustics and also teach acoustic guitar to beginners; it's mission field. One of the greatest joys is watching them perform at recitals, but most have entry level instruments, with cheap ply soundboards, so I loaned them my spare, a beautiful S6 Seagull, to which was added a K&K peizo pickup. I gave this guitar to a close friend, who has blossomed beyond belief, and needed a performance instrument.
Depending on playability and sound, I'm replacing it with another loaner, either a Seagull Signature, or a Fender GS25S, both solid wood instruments; whichever has the best tone and sustain will be the recipient. I'll need to install another peizo, and am looking at this Journey peizo.
By the way the first musical piece made me soar. What's the picking pattern. Any chance of TAB?
Thanks for sharing your story with us :) We don't have the tab but check the video description and maybe you can reach out to Donovan for it!
Can i glue with JB weld???
hello , the Journey Instruments JourneyTek CL Passive 4-Piezo can be use on martin steel guitar ? Thanks
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Good info video by you actually I'm facing noise humm ground issue so do I need to change saddle pick up or there can be issue in pre amp also???????
Sorry to hear that! Shoot us an email at info@journeyinstruments.com and we'll see about getting this fixed
I need this in my life. Perfect for me. But why make the install so many extra steps?
I can't see why 6 golf tees and feeling with your fingers wouldn't work. That will be how I'll do it.
Song 8:58?
I intend to fit the Journeytek E P S 001 pick up system to my acoustic , why do i also require the E P 001 3 piezo k also for this system to work when they are independent of each other ? Thanks for your reply asap please
Sorry for the late reply! The EPS001 is meant to upgrade our original EP-001s to active pickups, which is why you need the original pickups too.
Journey Instruments I have received my journey acoustic pickup today the quality doesn't look as good as the one what's on the RUclips video I hope it's going to sound better than it looks ? I will update you soon
I can’t imagine drilling a hole in my Martin guitar
Tip: do NOT replace your original strap button. Instead drill a new hole about 6” lower down the bout for the new pickup jack (like an electric guitar). This way you can use your original strap button for a strap which is far superior.
what is the difference between EP004K and EP001K?
Waiting for response 🙏
The EP004K has 4 piezo elements and is for a classical guitar. Both sound the same, they're just meant to accommodate different bridge widths and guitar bracing :)
Does the end pin pickup also function as a shoulder strap pin?
It does!
@@journeyinstruments great product.
@@maxmilligan8734 Thanks, Max! Glad you think so :)
I like that feature too. It installed easily and you don't have another hole for a separate jack.
@David Stadium Heights The strap lug in mine was just a hair bigger when I installed these. Most common are lug with drilled hole for screw to hit inner strength block where it normally would set. Installing the jack lug provided you have to drill that block. If your lock strap won't fit it, just move original far enough forward, aft or above. You'll have to leave clearance for cord or transmitter to amp.
But, you'll see how wide and tall the block is and judge on you strongest hold point.
was that stuff in the blue tube super glue?
Sure is. See the link in the description for the PDF installation guide
Does the pickup pick up the noise of the strap?
Nope, it doesn't!
The text that accompanies the video is incorrect. What they are calling the pick up is actually the output jack; the sound is picked up by the piezos that are glued on the bridge.
what size drill bit is this?
We use step drill bits 2 - 12mm for the initial drilling and and a 12mm wood drill be for finishing. Check out the PDF guide in the description for more details!
I installed the EP001K and used a 31/64th's drill bit. Might have been able to get away with step down, but it is snug enough for me. Use a test board first.
These are almost twice the size of K&K mini's. They dont fit many guitars with x bracing. I found that out the hard way. Their customer service is non-exsistent.
I'm sorry to hear you had this issue, Mark! We do make a note on the product page that it may be slightly too big for narrow x-braced guitars like the Martin Jr or Taylor GS Mini. Fortunately, these pickups still work great even if they have to hang over the edge a little bit.
I wasn't able to find any customer service requests under your name, but if you reach out to us at info@journeyinstruments.com we'll be happy to help further!
@@journeyinstruments I have an 88 Martin Sigma and while installing the transducers with superglue I discovered I was out of room. When I try to peel them off I ruined one of them so I emailed you to see if I could buy one and to ask if they would still work good behind the string pegs. I got no answer but in the meantime I soldered a 12 cm as a replacement. I don't know if they will work but I'm trying them with double face tape. The plastic template you provide for installation is too flimsy so I've made a template to install them all together. Thanks for at least replying.
ATTENTION ALL GUITARISTS: Although this is a great instructional video, THERE IS A MUCH BETTER WAY TO INSTALL THIS SYSTEM ( or the K&K Pure Mini, both install the same way ) !!! PLEASE READ THE FOLLOWING ON HOW TO NOT ONLY DO A MORE PRECISE INSTALLATION, BUT IT'S ALSO MUCH QUICKER & EASIER!!! >>>> Do NOT use that thin, wimpy mounting jig & toothpick to glue each transducer in place, one at a time. Instead, use an old credit/debit card ( or any plastic material that is about the same size & thickness as a debit/credit card ) .....you can also use one of those "fake" credit cards you get in the mail for credit card offers. If the card has the 16 digit account number embossed onto the card ( "embossed" means that the 16 digit numbers are stamped & raised, not flush.....sort of like "brail" for blind people ) then simply flip the card so that the embossed 16 digit numbers are FACING DOWN. ( When upright, the embossed numbers won't allow a flat/flush fit of the pickup transducers.......flipping the card upside down DOES allow a flat/flush fitment. ) Using a small light and mirror placed inside the guitar, position the debit card on the bridge plate to see how it fits. Trim the debit card's length if necessary, and trim 2 of the corners off the card to clear any X-bracing inside the guitar. Trim only enough of the debit card for proper fitment to the bridge plat underneath, ya don't want to trim "too much" off of the card. Take your time and trim only small amounts of the card off at first. Repeat if necessary, until you have the card trimmed to the correct size/dimensions. Remove the saddle from it's slot in the bridge ( this is only temporary, so you can mark the saddle position on the debit card as well as mark the EXACT position of the 6 bridge pin holes. ) Next, position the card so that the edge of the card is just in front of the bridge pin holes, so that you can carefully mark the VERY CENTER of all 6 bridge pin holes using a black Sharpie marker. When making these marks, make only very small hash marks with the Sharpie to represent THE EXACT CENTER position of each bridge pin hole, for good precision. Then use a straight edge and draw a straight line on the card through all 6 dots you made with the Sharpie, so that you have a perfect pattern made for all 6 bridge pin holes on the debit card. Using the black Sharpie again, do the same thing for the exact position of the bridge saddle slot. NOTE: YOUR SADDLE & THE SADDLE SLOT MAY BE ANGLED SLIGHTLY ON THE BRIDGE, SO MAKE SURE YOU DRAW YOUR STRAIGHT LINE THAT REPRESENTS THE EXACT POSITION & ANGLE OF THE SADDLE SLOT IN RELATION TO THE BRIDGE PIN HOLES VERY CAREFULLY. ( Per the instructions from Journey Tek, the pickup transducers should be centered directly beneath the saddle location. ) All of this is much easier to do than it seems. Then, using the correct size drill bit and a block of scrap wood, lay the card on the block of wood & carefully drill ONLY the 2 holes for the exact position of each outer E-string. THIS NOW ENABLES YOU TO USE 2 GOLF TEE'S INSTEAD OF THAT THIN TOOTHPICK. (more on this later here ) You will NOT need to drill holes for the remaining 4 bridge pin holes, instead, the marks you made for these 4 bridge pin holes (for the A, D, G, and B string) will simply be used to locate the supplied putty to position each transducer properly BETWEEN each pair of strings ( 3 pickup transducers positioned between 6 strings makes sense. ) Take your time with these previous steps, it's not that difficult, but get it right. Once all of this is done, (should only take a few minutes ) you now have A MUCH IMPROVED MOUNTING JIG/TEMPLATE which will allow you to use TWO golf tee's. ( If ya don't have an extra golf tee, go borrow or buy one. ) Do NOT use the toothpick that is provided, instead, use TWO golf tee's. Do NOT use one of your bridge pins as "the 2nd golf tee". Use ONLY 2 golf tee's. These 2 golf tee's will be used the same way, only each golf tee WILL ENSURE A PRECISE FITMENT LOCATION IN THE BRIDGE PIN HOLES FOR BOTH OUTER E-STRINGS for your custom mounting jig/template that you just made using an old debit/credit card. Now that your new custom made mounting jig/template is ready to use, follow the same instructions from Journey Tek using the mounting/locating putty, but the advantage is you can now INSTALL ALL 3 TRANSDUCERS AT THE SAME TIME!!! ...........WARNING>>> BEFORE INSTALLATION, ALWAYS USE A LIGHT AND A MIRROR INSIDE YOUR GUITAR TO MAKE SURE YOUR BRIDGE PLATE IS CLEAN & FREE OF ANY DEBRIS, SAWDUST, OR SPLINTERS THAT MAY BE PRESENT FROM WHEN THE GUITAR WAS ORIGINALLY BUILT!!! You want the bridge plate to be clean, so the Super Glue/Gorilla Glue GEL has a clean surface to adhere to. Lay the card on the top of the bridge & install BOTH golf tee's, then locate & stick all 3 pickup transducers onto the debit card using the supplied putty. With all 3 transducers placed on the debit card using the putty, do NOT apply the Super Glue/Gorilla Glue GEL yet.........you want to make a few "practice runs" inside the guitar, to get used to how it is accomplished. Practice on the inside of the guitar, to locate & line up the 2 holes in the card with the 2 golf tee's, and pretend like you're doing the actual installation by pressing the card up against the bridge plate. Do this several times, to get used to the procedure & gain confidence. ( If you're not very skilled with your hands, get someone who IS skilled to do this installation, or pay a professional luthier. But most people CAN do this job themselves. ) I recommend using your thumb on one edge of the card, and your MIDDLE 2 fingers on the opposite edge of the card, for better grip & control. When you're ready to do the actual installation, apply the glue on each transducer, and once you have the card positioned onto both golf tee's from inside the guitar & pressed up against the bridge plate, quickly & carefully place all 4 fingers on the card to apply even pressure. The other added advantages of using this custom-made jig, is that you can now use all 4 fingers to press the card with all 3 transducers into place with much better control. Also: this improved custom mounting jig ensures that all 3 transducers are perfectly located. ALWAYS make a few "practice/dry runs" to properly locate BOTH golf tee's, before actually gluing the transducers into place. This improved, custom made jig actually makes this job MUCH faster, easier, and more precise!!! I used this method to install the Journey Tek EP001K pickup system in all 4 of my acoustic guitars at once, in a fraction of the time. IT WORKED GREAT!!! IT WILL WORK GREAT FOR YOU TOO, TRUST ME!!!
Really? Couldn’t speak a word?
Maybe they only speak Chinese 😃