TOP TEN BEAR DEFENSE FIREARMS
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What are the best firearms for Bear Protection?
This is Chuck's opinion. Put what you agree or disagree with in the comments!
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good lineup for bear. Lived my whole life in AK took many different guns into the bush. whatever big gun you use, know it. practice,practice,practice. you will come to trust it and your ability with it. i faced many a bear. I never had to kill one. I knew my long barrel Black Hawk better than any of my wives. I never felt panic anytime. I trusted my weapon. I trusted my ability. The best weapon you can bring into the woods, is your ability. If your not packing a big ability, you will become bear crap. May Alaska always remain wild and free.
Well Said Sir.
Damn!? Lol.
@@AlaskanBallistics i agree about ruger in general as a whole..ive got a ruger ar 15 and i beat the shit outta it and its very accurate
💯 facts sir
I agreed 👍
I just wear a jacket with my ex wife's picture on it. Have never been attacked so far.
Good luck lol
🤣🤣🤣
Ha ha ha
I wear a jacket with her picture on it too.
Lol
I was scouting in a very active bear and cougar area and I had my 375 HH bolt gun with one in the pipe. I ran into two hikers going out into the wilderness when I was coming in and when we got close to each other I could tell that the sight of my rifle made them uneasy. They both had hammers on their hips swinging in little belted hammer holders, like what you would see on tool bags. Trying to be friendly and kill the tension I excitedly asked them, while pointing at their hammers, if they were going prospecting. The guy, who was wearing a kilt (one of those guys) and had arms smaller then my sisters, in a confident but ever so slightly annoyed tone, responded by saying; “no, we have these in case we have to scare a bear off.” The pressure from the laughter and scoff built up inside of me had me feeling like an overinflated balloon. I kept it together and showing concern asked them; “you know there are tons of bears here right? And there’s been multiple cougars killing farmers animals in the outskirts of town.” He responded, once again in that snobby, annoyed tone; “that’s what we have our bells for, the noise should scare anything off.” I bid them farewell and wished them a good time out in the wilderness. The bitter laughter and audible mockery of their foolish words made the remaining 3 mile trek to my truck seem like 100 yards. That is 100% true and I never saw them again.
Some people just don't get it.
Can lead a horse to water…
Gotta commend you on being a gentleman & not laughing your azz off right there. I know you wish you took a picture of them though 😂😂😂😂
Brother, You CAN NOT, fix stupid. A very generous attempt on your part though.
I would've shown them a picture of bear scat and told em "thats gonna be the part of you your family didn't get to bury because the bear ate it" Idiots....
I took a Grizz that attacked us not long ago with 450 Bushmaster 350 grain Hard cast Buffalo bore shells. One through the scull above right eye, then as he was grabbing at his head I gave him one more with a lung shot. We moved back behind a row of tree's and waited, which it didn't take long and he was gone. I also had hard cast 45acp 255grain on my chest. Thank God our Shepard smelled him out because we didn't here a thing, we were looking for Moose. Had to change our underwear. I really didn't want to kill him, but we had to. Gizmo didn't get bit or slashed so my dog was ok. I will never Hunt without Gizmo.
That's a good dog
Yep, he gets all the treats he wants now.
My Late Maggie saved us from a moose charge
😂😂
Me, watching in Alabama, and as a person who never goes into bear country:
"Hon, I need to buy several bear weapons. They're crafty, and you never know when they'll organize and make their move to overthrow humans!"
Dang straight
Better to have it and not need it...
lmao!
Me watching in South Africa knowing damn well the only bear near me is maybe in a zoo I they're even that close 😂
@Bush Boi y'all still have dangerous game there
My uncle was attacked by a bear and used slugs said it took about 4 shots for it to just run the other way, the power and ferocity that they have is unreal he said it was the most humbling experience he ever had and one everyone should have
I saw a grizzly hit in the neck by a .300 Win Mag, it dropped...and got right back up very angry. Took another to the lung/heart area and it didnt really respond to it, headshot finally made it stay down. That made me realize how insanely tough those big fellas are.
They're tough. Mine tooka .338 win mag to the mouth and was still breathing
My 375 Ruger can take down an elephant, But you’re right, when the Bears and Drenn Lynn and anger is at full throttle they keep coming at you
I never saw a bear but I used to chase storms when I was younger and I've stood in 70mph wind and been next to 3 tornadoes.
That's pretty damn humbling, especially when you're doing damage assessment afterwards and you see what it did to people's lives.
In some ways I think even a bear attack isn't as bad, cuz at least you have a chance at stopping it.
That experience changed me forever, I realized that I am absolutely nothing on this Earth...
@@deejayimm , Ya, we are tiny compared to LOTS of other things. Went through a tornado in Texas. Funnel went right down the road 100 feet away. We were down in the shelter & just the roar & ground shaking was awesome! After it passed the telephone poles looked like porquipines where the straws from the hayfields had been slammed right through the poles. Now, in Alaska, a charging grizzlie seems almost dull in comparison but still plenty of insane adrenalin rush! Ones never more alive than the moment you know your about to die & every cell in your body is SCREAMING! " DONT KILL ME!"
My father took his .45-70 with him to help a friend build a cabin just east of Fairbanks, AK, around Wolf Creek. His friend had gone into Fairbanks for supplies, leaving him there at the site. So he took that gun hiking around the area. He was enjoying a vista in front of him when he heard something snap in the distance behind him. When he turned to see what it was, he saw that there was a large grizzly about 50 to 80 yds. out, running directly at him, with its ears laid down, he tried to back up, and tripped. As he began to go down, he loosed a round out of that big lever action. The round struck the bear directly in the face, removing most of its muzzle and jaw. It skidded to a halt about 20 yards away, and headed away howling as my dad hit the ground. It saved his life in a big way. He laid there for nearly a half hour on the ground, thinking that he was going to have a heart attack, until he finally got up. He went to the spot that the bear had been, and just further, found the flattened out bullet in a rather large circle of blood and muck. It stayed on his mantle, as the round that saved him. He would agree with your #1 choice wholeheartedly.
Thanks for sharing that story. Glad he was okay.
@@AlaskanBallisticsI use a Glock 21 .45cal using 78gr Bullets 1,900fps and 625ftlbs muzzle velocity by Civil Liberty. 1 and done in the dome!
@JoeyTheChin heck no. That's gimmick ammo, it fails to penetrate adequately in Ballistics gel, grizzly bear skills are WAY tougher than Ballistics gel. I'VE SEEN 9MM HEAVY LEAD 124GR FALL TO PENETRATE A GRIZZLY SKULL... lightweight energy dumps are gimmicks. Penetration to the vitals is all that counts. YOU NEVER USE expanding bullets on a grizzly bear
Watch the channel and learn.
@@AlaskanBallisticsk
Correct... liberty civil defense is gimmick ammo
WHEW!!
I watched to the end wondering WTH the
.45-70 wasn't listed then the Heavens opened up, the Sun shown through and Lo and BEHOLD there it was, presented in all it's Glory!
Still, I'll never be able to hunt or fish Alaska (too many disabilities but maybe I'll heal. Let us Pray!) so watching this and living vicariously through your exploits is the next best thing, so thanks for the video!
Yeah you could with a good 4 wheeler
Prayers for your healing. Im in the same boat. Hang in there. Keep pushing.
I was thinking the same thing lol, but redeemed when 45-70 was number 1 on the list.
Thank you @swiftbear. Godspeed and good hunting
This guy has more experience than me, though I was born and raised in Alaska, learned to hunt (mostly) there. Glad to hear his wisdom.
I don't know about more experience but thank you for the kind words. Godspeed
Very informative. Additionally, remember that the BEST weapon is the one YOU can use most effectively.
I can agree with that
Excellent video!! I remember the first (and last) time my Uncle took me to Alaska to hunt. While we were walking (both carrying lever action 45-70 rifles) he asked me what I would do if a Grizzly Bear suddenly appeared and charged us. I thought I would impress him and replied "I would stand my ground and shoot". He smiled at me and said "That's a great idea" and then added "while your shooting I will be running, I do not have to be faster than the Bear, just faster than you!". He was not my favorite Uncle anymore.
Exactly!
You're full of shit.........that's a stupid old joke that's been told on the internet for 20+ years 🙄
I believe, he told you that bc he wanted to give you a lesson. So that In case of bear encounter he would be the one standing his ground and you get your chance to live. Otherwise he would just pat you on your shoulder with "goodboy".
Standing your ground and shooting is how you love. Bears instinctively chase things that are running. So if you stand your ground and i run, it'll ignore you and go after me.
@@AlaskanBallistics Amen. Tbh I've seen bears only in a zoo). Would like to have your lifestyle, close to nature. Stay safe bro!
"$120 a box is much better than getting mauled by a bear!"
I agree 👍😊
For sure
If you are REALLY going into the meat grinder then YOU ARE RIGHT!
I got bit in the wrist by a a lowly pitbull and between ER visits and physical therapy it costed a few thousand......I can't imagine what a bear mauling would cost.
Hence why you try to prevent it
Who makes them cartridges? Gloria Vanderbilt?
I like seeing some love for the AR10. I live in NW MT, about half an hour from Glacier National Park. I realize our grizzlies aren't really on the same level as Alaskan grizzlies, but they are still big, powerful, and extremely fast. I carry and Glock 20 always, and usually carry a 20 inch Aero Precision M5 (AR10). Mine is just in .308 Win, but with a 3.5x ACOG or a 1-8x Primary Arms PLx, it is light enough in weight and fast enough to do most of my hunting and bear defense work. It has proven itself reliable and has ergonomics similar to that of the M16A4 I was issued in the Marines, so I am confident in it and more importantly, in my abilities with it. I keep my head on a swivel, tread lightly, and carry a big stick. Bears are awesome creatures to witness in the wild, but you have to respect what they are capable of.
Great choice to carry.
@@mikemerrill175 Nature is to be respected, but not feared. Man didn't claw his way to the top of the food chain to live in fear. Grizzlies are large, powerful, and potentially dangerous, for sure, but they usually don't go looking for trouble, and if they have warning, will usually keep to themselves and avoid it altogether. Your son should be fine. Beautiful country around Livingston. Enjoy it!
10Ga Magnum(slug) shotgun, enough said. Doesn't go bang....goes Ka-freaking BOOOOM!! Peace
As long as it's a repeater and you waterproof your slugs... good choice
Saw 10ga ammo at cabelas yesertday
My arm would be torn off at the shoulder!
Shooting 3" shells in my 12ga makes me cry.
Better than being v eaten by the grizzly bear
My life on the line, Me or the bear? I'll take 45-70 every time for the win.
That's why it's number 1
Especially lever-action. It has the rate of fire of a semi-auto, and even the most anemic 45-70 round pack one hell of a punch. 45-70 is every bit as powerful as a 12 gauge slug or any medium-bore rifle, even more powerful than some. Pump, lever-action or semi-auto is what you want at close range for obvious reasons.
The only thing I might disagree with is all of the handguns. Only the most powerful of the can come anywhere near the power of a rifle. I actually carried a .44 in Alaska, but it was only my secondary, with my primary being either a 12 gauge loaded with slugs or a .300 Win Mag. Even the .300 usually stayed in the truck. If I ever go back up there, I'll be packing an AR10, loaded with bonded or partition bullets.
Handguns are always a backup to a long gun.. but they have a 97% effective rate according to the ammoland article.
@@thatguy22441 45-70 is no where near as powerful as the mid pack to upper energy medium bore rifles, especially in a lever gun. You're looking at 3500 to 3700 ft lbs energy in a 45-70 +p round, and that's going to be the absolute maximum you can safely get out of your 45-70 in a lever action. Medium bore rifles start around 4000 ft lbs and go up to and over 6000 ft lbs of energy for the big 375's!
@Rexford L this is all true. But it's not about energy that kills it's penetration to the vitals and quick well placed shots. None of the calibers you Mentioned are in a fast follow up shot rifle
When you got to number one and the 45-70, I got a big smile on my face. That's the round I've been looking at and the Henry is the choice I had made. I may never be in Alaska or in Grizzly country but it will work great for black bear and moose.
Nice call on the .45-70. An .45-70 paired with a .44 or 10mm pistol is a great combo 👍
Absolutely
Pair with BFR in 45-70
Too slow
Agreed. I've always said if it came down to one rifle and one handgun it will be the 1895 SBL (My favorite firearm ever) and the Glock 20. Super versatile combo and effective in pretty much any scenario you can think of. Great video
I have high hopes for Marlin now that Ruger bought them! It will take a while for them to get going though.
Rugarlins will be nice
We'll see
I'll wait to see
The main way I could see them messing up is to put that rinky dink folding rear sight they put on their 10-22s and even on their 77s with sights! That thing isn’t rugged enough for outdoor use and rifles aren’t for indoor use! 😂
@chris mclaughlin I guess I’m blinded at the thought of a 94 in 480 Ruger.
My 1st owned firearm. I camped a lot in bear country in NYS, SO … learned on the max recoil gun (at that time Glock20)… NEVER regretted it. To get several “headshots” , successfully was my goal… & eventually did ! Bigger , 1 shot ‘cannons’… I have NEVER considered… natch… never came across a bear predator… all the years living there… But… I felt prepared & ready !
This was a really interesting video. I've been shooting since I was 8 y/o and shooting .30 caliber rifles since I was 10. I also began hunting with my grandfather when I was 10.
Once while coon hunting with him we heard something in the creek downstream from us that sounded like a big hog to me. My grandfather had me move along to catch up to him, and I noticed he had pulled his .357 from his holster when he told me to catch up to him. As we got farther from the creek, he stopped and told me that it was a bear in the creek, not a hog. Sure enough, the next morning, we went to the creek, and there were bear tracks. Now, we were in Pennsylvania at the time, so this was a black bear, not a grizzly bear by any means. My grandfather was certain that a .357 would take down a black bear, which is why he carried the gun to protect me. I have to say, the one animal I am interested in hunting is the grizzly. The reason is that the grizzly can and, from what I've been told, will hunt men. To me, that sounds like the one animal that would present a challenge.
Anyway, thanks for the tutorial. it was really great to hear what an Alaskan hunter thinks are the right firearms to deal with a grizzly.
Thank you. Interesting story
Lol...shot placement against a charging grizzly bear? Only round I’m guaranteed to put on target is the one I’m gonna dump in my shorts.
Thank you for being real about 460 and 500 about getting one round chance in a real bear charge.
You're welcome. Thank you for watching
Yeah I fired a .500 SW at the range and you really are only getting one shot with that thing at a charging bear. It IS one helluva shot though! Makes .44 magnum seem tame by comparison. That round creates a shockwave at the range and scares the piss out of the other shooters nearby!!!
I respectfully disagree. I can fire mine consecutively and accurately
@daniel keene post a video
@@AlaskanBallistics I'm a truck driver. It will be a few weeks before I can get home. I will though. Like... I'm not challenging you lol. I'm just saying it's not too much for me. Other people might have a different experience
Good ideas on the rifles. I have a Marlin 45-70 and several calibers ofAR10 but never really considered them as "Bear defense" . Prior to this video I just thought "Big handgun". The rifles would probably be much easier to hit a charging bear with than a pistol and it clearly has much more power. I have 300 lb black bears in my yard every week but they just run away, stop in the woods just out of sight and "Huff" at me. I always carry a pistol but more for human predators than bears. Good video.
Thank you for watching. Hopefully those black bears can be good sausage sometime.
Can I come hunt those black bears?
Great video. I like how you described the choices and the reason for the placement in your list. I live in the Rockies a little more south and Grizzly are very rare here but we have tons of black bears. I carry the 45-70 in Rem/Marlin a895 model and it shoots well. I did use a red dot with a flip-out magnifier from Tacticon and it's holding up pretty well to the shock of a big brush gun. I love the look of that Henry X!
Cool. I might go the red dot route. Especially since XS systems has the scout tail for the Henry now
Right on, young man ! Thanks for displaying our flag as well. Alaskan since 1961, lately I’m carrying the RIA VR 60, no time for bolt action with Toklats 💝
Not a bad choice. Godspeed Sir
The best defense is to never be alone, and make sure you can run faster than whoever you are with.
I'm the slow guy, and running induces the bear's instinct to chase.
@Alaskan Ballistics it's a old bear joke, but I believe you when you say,running will not make a difference, unless it's a buss full of fat tourists
Great choices, I had bought a mp94 combo 12/223.... Kinda heavy to carry all day though.... But the recoil is minimal..... thank-you great video
Great list. I was surprised that a 12 gauge wasn’t further up your list until you explained your experiences with them. If that’s not an option I prefer an AR10 to a lever action due to having less to do if the time comes. My experiences with bears have not gone that far to date but I’m aware that could change.
I hope it doesn't change for you
Love LOVE LOVE!!! 45-70 lever guns.
Me too
Nice job on the video! Great point on sealing primers and slugs. I seal all my defense ammo and hunting rounds. I carry .41 Magnum in .220 hard cast. Much better than .357 & 10mm. Fast follow up shots you won't get with .500 magnum and less recoil than 44 or 500. That is what I carry in my S&W Classic Hunter Model 657
Not a bad choice.
What do you seal it with?
@@AlaskanBallistics - I just wrote in a comment above that my buddy used fingernail polish . Never had any issues.
What do you think about that. ( he has passed away now, heart, but hunted a lot).
@@coffeehunter8742 if you compare it to primer sealant you buy in the reloading section of cabelas, it's pretty much the same stuff
@@AlaskanBallistics -thanks for your reply. I enjoyed this video!
I got a load of information out of this one video. Totally informative. Thanks. The Polar Bear Whisperer obviously didn't head any of this type of advice.
It penetrates well, It went straight through my Chronograph!!! 🤣🤣🤣
Live in NW Minnesota and Black Bears are making a comeback as are wolves. My mother walks our wooded trails alone. She’s not a gun person, should she stick with a horn and spray or a revolver. A friend of hers carries a 44 mag revolver. Theres a male Black Bear male who’s 300lbs I bet. Now that my dad is gone I worry about my mother so I think I’m just going to hunt it myself. It shows up evenings and goes through trash or bird feeders, last year one broke through her screened porch to get at the bird feed buckets. Feeders come down in the night and bears have learned this. The little black in the porch jumped back through the screen when my mom screamed
Man this video was very targeted, informative, and useful. Kudos.
Thank you
Ya know I appreciate these videos. They are reasonable for reasonable scenarios. Most of these tacti-cool dudes on line and at the range are running these crazy scenarios we didn’t even encounter downrange in the desert much less stateside. I’ll start watching these to help my blood pressure.
Thank you brother. Godspeed and good hunting to you and yours.
That was a great presentation! I am going to be sharing this video! Keep up the good work I totally agree with everything you said!
Thank you David! Godspeed to you and yours!
David ... I have watched you play for Boston many years. Forget a gun ... All you need is that damned bat.
I really like your choice of number 1 and the recommendation of a Henry modern rifle. Back some years ago, I bought 2 Marlin 45-70's at estate auctions that were made in the seventies and do NOT have the cross bolt safety on them. The law was signed in 1986 and all the rifles Marlin made after that had the cross bolt safety. I wouldn't want any rifle on SAFE if a bear ever charged me and I had to shoot it Back some year ago, we knew about a 450 lb black bear that was stalking hunting camps in the area where we went camping and hiking, so when we were out I carried the 45-70 while we were hiking, just in case. Black bears are not as aggressive in my home state as anything in Alaska. but can't be too careful. Fortunately, we did not run into that problem bear and did not see any tracks where we were hiking.
Regarding your problem with wet shotgun ammunition: You can use some wax to make it waterproof. Just melt the wax and use a soft brush to apply it to your ammunition. It's not much effort to do that and they are 100% reliable after that treatment. Make sure to use wax with a relatively high melting point if you want to use the ammunition in summer.
Thanks makes sense.
Thank You for this video! Just moved to Montana and found your Channel while searching for four-legged self-defense information
You're welcome. Thank you for watching.
I like alot of your choices and thanks for your experience on the shotgun shells. One of my concerns would be the tube coming out on its own on the Henry. I am older and have had quite a few tubes shoot out over the years. I think the worst was a lever action 22 mag Winchester. Even when they are put in properly.
Had that happen on a marlin 60 but the Henry fits a little tighter.
Awesome vid, covered a lot of different options. Moving to bear country soon so this caught my eye.
Thank you. Please share as RUclips demonetized it after 200k views the first time
Good video ... Two related firearms that are often overlooked, mainly due to having been long out of production, are Remington's Old School carbines, the Model 600 (18.5" barrel) and the Model 660 (20" barrel), both chambered in .350 Rem. Magnum. I have the M600 carbine and it weighs 6.2lbs in iron-sight trim, unloaded, but with a sling. The .350 Rem Mag was the original 'Short Magnum,' circa 1965. It pitches 200grn & 250grn .358-caliber bullets, and will drop Grizzes, Brownies, and Moose right now, not to mention lesser critters like deer and hogs. Remington did a run of Model 673s in .350RM in the early 2000s, although those had rifle-length 22" tubes and heavier laminated stocks than the 600s/660s. Still, the ballistics of the .350RM were designed to duplicate those of the .35 Whelen (up to the 250grn bullet-weight), but from a short-action platform (2.800" COAL). If I mount a low-powered scope on my M600, it might top out at 7lbs and fully loaded. But it was always intended to be a short-range carbine for close-up shots, not exceeding 100-yds but more likely inside 75-yds - the type of shots you would get in thick bramble bush, dark timbered environs, and the brushy, swampy, bear-infested boonies where 10mm Tough-Guys like Chuck and his buddy, Chuke, like to roam on their free time. :--/) The M600/M660 carbines in .350RM were decades ahead of their time.
My buddy has a model 600 in .308... it'll be in the channel soon.
I've read about them but never handled one. They are push feeds aren't they with plunger ejectors?
Best presented info, thanks. I have a cottage in bear country and have two of what you tested. My best advice is to always stay alert.
Couldn't agree more. Enjoy your cottage
excellent advice sir,great video.one simple thing that many overlook,awareness.be mindful of ur surroundings.listen,look and even the smells in the air.in other words for people that are new to the outdoors/wilderness,leave ur phone in ur pocket.that could assure u enjoy ur trip,and might even assure a safe return.God bless u brother,enjoy every trip,be safe.
Well said
454 casull. Ruger Super Redhawk Toklat. 👍
That'll be on the list, but not #1... this is a reupload to fix the demonization issues with RUclips
Greetings,
I have always believed strongly in the calibers you have included in your top ten, and it feels good that you have supported my conclusions!
Sadly however, I had to sell my Mossberg Deadly Game in .375Ruger caliber, because being on a limited income, I simply could not afford to run her anymore.
So many feel the .375Ruger Mossberg Deadly Game rifles are simply trash, but my baby was not.
A lady, she would let you know who was in charge with always a loving and gentle push, but in the end gave you everything that you would hope and ask of her!
Please please keep up the great work!
Hopefully you will be able to get one!
Nice presentation. I've seen a number of "best for bear" videos and none have been better than this one.
Thank you kindly sir.
I was especially pleased he made a point that any big game rifle/caliber is better than any handgun.
When I was going into northwest wyoming Griz country I carry my trusty M1 tanker chambered in 308 win. I have 8 rounds of 180 gr nosler partition in a short barrel 7 1/2 Lb 18" very fast rifle. Never had to use it on Griz yet but I am confident it would go the trick
Agreed
So many calibers I am not familiar with so thanks for the share....I do like the lever action 45-70 guide gun....Good stuff...
Thanks man. Please share as RUclips demonized this video at 200k views and this is the reupload
@@AlaskanBallistics Crazy they get away with that as will do....
I think I will elect the 12 gauge pump simply because I have used one for my entire life and everything about it is automatic and reflexive for me. Thanks for the heads-up about waterproofing the slugs! I have never hunted with a lever gun although I have been researching the Henry 45-70 for a while (got the catalog). A quick story about using bolt actions and practicing quickness: when I was a teenager I was hunting whitetail with a bolt action and a deer got up and I started shooting (I think I forgot about aiming). The older gentleman who took me hunting with him came charging into the clearing next to me and started looking around wildly and asked, "Who over here is shooting a semi-auto???" I blew through some rounds pretty quickly I guess! Practice and familiarity are key. Thanks for the video!
Hope you never need the shotgun in bear defense. Godspeed and good hunting to you
only if it is a Shockwave or Night Stick (Mossburg 590-based short barreled AOWs). 16 or 18 inch barrel is too long to get on a bear inside 1 yard.
@@thorman944 One yard? If you don't know there is a bear before one yard you're toast no matter what...
Great video. I’m from Colorado and would love to visit Alaska someday. I thought your selection of guns was great.
Thank you kindly! Godspeed
My grandfather used to take me hunting when I was young for Moose in Northern Ontario. He swore up and down with his Winchester 1894 30-30 and it downed them Every, Single, Time. I got older and did a bit of hunting ballistics research and found out 30-30 was considered hardly adequate for bull Moose, so I immediately got a Winchester Model 70 in 30-06, then a year after that went bigger into a .338 Win Mag, then 45-70 and after that I went really big and got a Model 70 Safari Express in .458 Win Mag. Bagged one with a 400gr hollow point. And what a mess I made. Dropped the Moose like a bag of hammers. Pretty big gaping wound out the other side of the opposite shoulder. Destroyed said shoulder. Decided the next year I still wanted a "Dangerous" game cartridge though slightly less destructive. Got a .375 H&H, then the year after that I dropped down to a 300 RUM and then after that, weirdly enough I just ended up using my SVT-40 (7.62x54R) bags them very well, the recoil is exceptionally manageable (Probably the muzzle brake) and when a bull charges because you accidentally stumble upon it, all you have to do is bring it up into a shoulder ready position and put the head of the Moose inside the hood ring and let loose.
Moose are fairly dangerous but I imagine because people underestimate them. Figured it was a fair comparison
Thank you for sharing your experience. Moose usually attack more people here than bear.
I'm just wondering if a 7.62x54r would drop a Alaskan kodiak brown or a grizzly.
Sure, just hit it right and it'll drop
Good video. I'm an old man these days. The .44 mag is too damn much for me anymore. I've gone to .357 mag Buffalo Bore loads in my handgun. However, I can still handle the 12 gauge with slugs...my number one choice! While fishing with my adult son in grizzly country, he does the fishing, I stand guard with the 12 gauge. While hunting, we both carry the 30-06, however, when only one has the tag, the other carries the 12 gauge with slugs. Thanks for the video!
How do you waterproof your slugs?
I lived in Montana for three years as a boy. Did some hunting but never saw any bears at all. Always wondered what would be the single best weapon for a grizzly attack. I like the AR10 best because it's semiautomatic, no time to be working a bolt or lever. Thanks for sharing!
Thank you for your input. If you've got it clean and in working order. Semi auto is good.
HCAR is also a nice choice
I've encountered MANY black bears on foot but no grizzlies (I'm a backpacker not a hunter) so I can't speak to grizzlies, but *boy can I speak to bear encounters:*
1. they often happen VERY fast at VERY short range
2. Bears are FAST. have you seen one run in person? Cheetah with 4WD.
2. you are gonna have a rifle slung most of the time. Ready sling or you're ****F****'d with a rifle.
3. Any of those pistols with a long/weird barrel is a NO GO unless you have some magic holster. No F'n way you're getting a shot off in a "holy ****" bear encounter.
4. Thus IMO a Glock in one of those plastic holsters or a 4" or under double action revolver is the way to go. No safety, quick draw.
5. Notice that the one gun he used successfully was a short-barrel Glock... and that was at range, not turning into a charge.
6. Take off whatever you gotta take off to get that thing out of the holster ASAP. There is no "sight picture" in a surprise bear encounter unless you are Johnny Badass or you train _extensively._ You are not Johnny Badass & you probably don't train extensively. Push to ready, sight down barrel is a lot more realistic.
7. 5 burpees & a friend calling you a ****** in your ear while you shoot when you train. I'd say turn to shoot, but you might shoot your friend.
8. Can you turn draw & shoot before a car or ATV gets to you at 20mph from 20 yards? Can you even draw & shoot quasi-accurate that fast? Time the car, then run that stopwatch. How about 29MPH? Apparently that's grizz in 3rd gear.
9. Prevention prevention prevention. I make plenty of noise w singing, "HEY BEAR", bluetooth speaker, & jingle bells on pack in grizz country. No joke. I am either singing or listening to a book on tape out loud or "HEY BEAR" on the 60 in grizz country. Plus 2 big jingle bells atop my pack.
10. That applies to hunters too, at least on the approach. You get used to the jingle bells. I've never seen a grizzly live, and that's the way I like it. I also carry spray. Would carry a pistol for the added non-bear utility, but it's a PITA legal-wise.
Most carry insurances cover you in a bear charge situation.
@@AlaskanBallistics Oh, I mean going from state to state, National Parks & stuff. I move around the West pretty freely. And I've been searched by rangers more than once (twice 8). Firearms illegal in NP's right?
My Henry BB Steel in 45-70 is my go to in bear country. Glad to see you agree. :) Bighorn Armory is another lever to check out, but they are pricy. They chamber in a few big calibers including the 500 S&W Spikedriver!
Yeah they're nice but outside my budget. Thanks for watching
Great video with good solid common sense suggestions. I've always felt if I'm going to carry a 9 pound long gun its going to be in a more potent caliber. Otherwise I might as well carry a lighter one. Even though I have a lot of your suggestions covered I'd take my Mossberg 500 with rifled barrel & open sights. Sabot slugs are usually more accurate, although I've discovered shotgun barrels can be finicky as rifles for preferring one load over another. Brenneke slugs are time proven in smooth bore 12 ga.
But not waterproof. Those Brenneke
Top rifle and revolver would be my top choices as well. Good to see the 629 Classic 5" made the top 10. Thanks for another great video Chuck.
Yeah i love that 5" Classic
@@AlaskanBallistics I now have #1, #3, #6, and #10 covered.
Perfect
@ Alaskan Ballistics - Thanks for an informative presentation. You're certainly been around, been there and done that as they say. Have you heard of the Sirius Sledge Patrol? A special ops unit of the Danish navy (Greenland is a protectorate of the kingdom of Denmark), the Sirius Sledge Patrol consists of two-man teams plus their dogs and sledges, who patrol the vast wilderness of Greenland for months at a time without returning to base. They are resupplied by cached material or via air drops, if a base isn't convenient. These men are all elite soldiers, but also function as paramedics, game wardens and wilderness survival experts. Each patrol member carries a M1917 30-06 bolt-action rifle as his long gun, and a Glock 20 10mm Auto as his sidearm. The Danes used black-tip AP 30-06 for dealing with difficult polar bears. The rifles are substantially older than all of the men carrying them, but they keep right on working, so the Sirius Patrol keeps right on using them.
That's a great set up
The M1917, Eddystone?
I like your picks. I have the Ruger Redhawk Alaskan in .454 as a backup to my Henry lever gun in 45-70 for this exact scenario.
Good choices
Good list of guns for the field. I personally carry a Para P-14 chambered in 400 CorBon. Hundreds of rounds through the gun and not one misfeed.
Nice that'll work... what load do you use?
Yup. I love my X too.
Just watched several videos on best bear defence guns and your video is the best out of all of them. 😎👍
Thank you very kindly.
Good video! I kept waiting for the 45-70 lever gun to pop up, LOL. I've hunted with a dozen different rifle calibers and the 45-70 has always amazed me at how much true knock down power it has.
I've only killed a 10pt whitetail back home with one but it went right down the hill and fell over
I was on an Indian reservation in Alaska September of 2019 photographing brown bears. Both guides had Marlin1895 G in 45-70 with them.
The real life approach was a great way to make this list ! Also, sharing what you have experienced.
Thank You
Great information about your protection,yet some of the gun magazine articles I have read stated a 44mag wasn’t even qualified to be a magnum. I have never believed that a 44 was weak in power and would be my choice because I shoot it well, you have waked the walk and now I’m more confident then ever in my Ruger can handle the job. May the Lord bless you and keep you safe in the wilderness.
Well magnums become magnums because they have a casing or projectile that was used by a caliber before said caliber was made but a magnum changes size of casing or projectile
@@Bmuenks31 the 44 mag cartridge was made before the hand gun , cart before the horse.
@@ljc4810 44 Mag was made in 55' and that is 1955 while the first magnum (357) was made in the 30s so 44 was definitely after handguns
@spectacularspectacular1856how about the 44 REM mag in a Winchester 1892 lever action gun. Would you think that would cut the mustard?
Sure...
My favorite is my old Belgian Browning A-5 12ga Buck special loaded with Brenneke Black Magic slugs or Brenneke K.O. 1oz slugs. Im very confident with that set up very reliable and power to boot! Dropped some big Bucks with that old Beatiful hump back.
Nice. Those were the ones though that were bad in water for me
I've wanted to pick up a Henry 45-70 for so long and this video put a smile on my face haha
Get it as soon as you're able.
Great video. You did a great job explaining everything. Thanks for the information.
Thank you for watching and the nice comment. Godspeed and good hunting. Happy new year to you and yours.
I'm not in bear country but according to your list I'd be doing pretty good with what I've got.
And I hope it serves you well For when you need it
It may not be the best option for this place but the 357 mag lever action served me well. Hard cast bullets are good for bear protection, I have used full metal jacket to put holes through small game like rabbit, and it is adequate for deer and caribou alike.
Glad you have good experience with it.
Just gotta love Bear Defense threads/videos. Thanks for all your material. Loving my .45-70 TSBL Marlin Trapper for everything! Peace Be The Journey!
That Marlin is a great choice
I don’t have grizzlies here in the Appalachian mountains, but we have quite a few black bears.
Most of my mobile ground hunting for deer is done with a Henry 44 magnum and a 40 cal with 200 grain hardcast.
When it’s not deer season I carry the 40 cal with 200 grain hardcast.
Been charged a couple of times but never a full on attack
It should work
I was working on a 200ft private yacht we went up to glacier bay AK it was a beautiful trip! The boats owner decided to take his sons site seeing I was on the prep team cooking all the meals. We set up camp and the two hired guides laughed when I showed them bear spray they said I’d probably panic and blind myself if a grizzly ambushed us out of the brush each of them had a 12 gauge and 500 mag on their chest. Luckily we never got charged we gotta see the bears from about 100 yards on land and 50 from the tender beautiful animals but terrifying as well.
That just gave been a cool trip. Thank you for sharing
My Marlin 45-70 is unbelievable ACCURATE!
IT'S ALSO LIGHTER THAN AN AR 10!
Yes! I like your AR 10 suggestion IF, I didn't have to carry it!
YES, I'm ACCURATE with my Freedom Arms 475 Linebaugh, RAPID FIRED.
I believe you're right on all your suggestions!
Thank you kindly...
That said, I’ve carried my Marlin .45/70 1895 and Ruger .454 Casull for many years in Brown Bear country.
Good choices
About 50 years ago we were elk hunting in Montana. Some fellows from Michigan had shot a nice little spike bull. When they went back with the game cart to get it I went along carrying Dad's 444 Marlin. Nothing happened but it wasn't until I was older and smarter that I realized I was simply there to carry the gun and that they would have ripped it out of my hands had there been a bear encounter. I realized that was probably the best plan as I was a young city boy and would not have been able to do anything more than soil my pants.
Good choices! Great to hear ya say rifles are better
Rifles are always better. Except when concealed carrying.
Not sure I would want to carry my 375 H&H in Alaska. I have a Marlin, highly modified. the internal parts were polished by me. Modified springs for a crisp trigger. firing pin changed to a one piece. Stock drilled for 2 extra shells, and small bag of parts. Outside stock has a leather case for 6 extra rounds. With a red-dot, this baby shoots 5 rounds that cut each other. Guess I'll carry my ole 45-70 in your country with my 45 C in a shoulder holster for backup. Been up there twice. Be happy to meet you next time. Stay Safe!!
That sounds like the perfect Alaskan set up. Godspeed.
Thanks for the video .... I just turned 50 and going to Alaska to hunt , my wife and I are both going for my Birthday and retirement gift . Appreciate all the advice .
Have fun and stay safe! There's a million ways to die here. Have a good plan and an inreach.
Just found your channel. Underrated af. You really know your stuff.
Thank you kindly. Godspeed to you and yours. Please share
Damn good presentation. Concise and to the point...and true. Thank you sir.
Thank you my friend
Amazing, First guy I almost totally agree with on this subject. I would drop the 10mm And 44mag and anything smaller from My list….The Henry 45-70 number 1, great…same with the Ruger .454 for Handgun, great choice…I had the 12 gauge with slugs slung over my shoulder, one summer fishing up there. ….. A lot of good advise from you….Thanks.
Thank you for watching. Godspeed.
I don’t know why, but I after reading the title I wanted to see a bear with a spread of various firearms across a pick-a-nic table explaining which he preferred for protection.
Dang that would have been good
Right to Arm Bears...
@@rogersheddy6414 SMH lol🤦♂️
@@rogersheddy6414 it makes the hunt more sporting !!
Yea! Nothing better than a well armed bear!
Sweet top ten! I’m glad I could make it into the chat.
Glad you enjoyed it!!!
Every time I watch or read something on this topic, with somebody recommending calibers akin to light artillery, I come to think about a story I read in a magazine many years ago:
This gunsmith in northern Canada, in what is now Nunavut, once got a visit from an Inuit subsistence hunter who wanted him to rebarrel the trusty old 22 Hornet. Naturally to Hornet again, why mess with perfection? While the gunsmith was preparing the rifle for the work, he talked a little with the hunter to find out a few things about the weapon. Among the things he found out was, that this rifle had been used to harvest 800 seals, harvest 50 large ungulates (mainly caribou, but even some moose) and to kill eight LARGE polar bears. Considering how few they were and that large polar bears are among a single digit number of wild predators in the World that when they see a human thinks "Food!", I suspect that every one of those bears were attacking with the intent to eat.
I don't propose that the couch potatoes who are planning the hike of their life in Alaska, go get a 22 Hornet, but if you know what you're doing, you can get away with a lot less gun than conventional wisdom says.
Just wanted to share.
awesome! of course hitting the target is far, far more important than any other consideration.........
Very true 👍 shot placement is 90% of the game, bullet construction 9%, power 1%
That’s what I am thinking I am sticking with my 40 lol
Ha ha ha! I just realized while watching your video, I'm watching your video, a gun guy in Anchorage (which I lived for about 20 years) and you're wearing the shirt of a gun guy who lives in the same city I currently live in. LOL... Good video.
Thanks brother
I have personally hunted Black Bear up in Canada with my 45-70, I got a perfect heart-lung shot and she only went ten yards. Can speak from first hand experience, go with a 45-70.
Great video! Thanks for the content!
Thank please Share as RUclips demonetized this after 200k views and this is the reupload
This was a great video, I'm glad I watched it through again. At 9:22 I love the point you made; I relate it to having to split a couple cords of wood and having to choose between a hatchet and an axe to split it all. A good axe is going to beat just about any hatchet for hard use unless it's a big piece of junk.
I currently carry my Mossberg Patriot 450 Bushmaster as my deer gun, not just because I love the cartridge, but because of how many BIG bull moose I've encountered here. My current sidearm is my Glock 22 40 S&W loaded up with some DoubleTap 180 Gr FMJ loads stacked with Grizzly's 200Gr JHP's. It's what I got and it works pretty well. But a good 454 Casull is on my wishlist for when I'm backpacking and can't carry to much weight.
Anyways, great video man 👍
I carry a freedom arms 475 linebaugh and or a 416 weatherby. With the weatherby the recoil is one shot shot 2 kills but you don’t notice it as much when your being charged.
Good 8nfo bro! Common sense and down to earth advice from a man with real-world experience! 👍
Thank you Kindly!
I'm a Canadian geologist, my work guns are:
BRNO 602, .375 H&H, 20" barrel, express sights with a Leupold 1.5x5x24 in Warne QD rings. rifle is Mauser action CRF. Stays mostly in camp or in vehicles as it is heavy. Still have a couple of boxes of 300 gr Failsafes.
For carrying where a carbine is carryable, Marlin (2002 JM era, pre-Remlin) 1895GS 45-70, Wild West trigger, ejector, mag follower, ghost ring sights and light mount, Leupold 2.5X IER mounted scout style in QD rings. Buffalo Bore 400 grain hard cast.
For carrying (with a Canadian Authorization to Carry permit) in black bear only habitat, a 2.5" S&W Model 19 with fullhouse 158 gr JSPs.
For carrying in grizzly or polar bear habitat, a 7.5" Ruger Super Redhawk in .454 Casull with fullhouse 300 gr jacketed flat points.
YMMV
Those are great choices my friends. Jealous on the marlin. Godspeed!
A Canadian with a side arm and approval to carry is a rare beast! Well done fellow Canuck!
@@AlaskanBallistics And the Marlin loaded with 2.5" .410 birdshot is great for grouse!
My current personal pick (Alberta) is a Browning BLR .358 Win with handloaded 225gr Partitions.
Now that's a great choice!
Good info Chuck.The only bears around here are back bear,around 350 pounds or smaller.They usually turn and run away unless it has cubs near by.
Thanks man
Back on the farm in North Dakota, we had a 45 70!! How old? Well, single-shot breach loaded with an octagon barrel! I was 12, let's see that would be 1958. It knocked me on my but, wasn't ready for the way overextended kick!! Never happened again. We back then had a 30 30 Remington and a 30 30 Winchester. The Remington was no match for the Winchester. Also, a 22 and Shotguns were a 410 two 16 gauge and a 12 gauge double barrel!! 1700 acre dairy farm. We needed protection, but not from people!! Excellent video, how do I know? M right shoulder feels a little sore now!!! Thank you so much for the Info. Yes, I wish I still had that 45 70!!!!
That was definitely a cool old .45-70
You have sealed the deal, I will be getting a Henry 4570
Nice! I hope you like it
Here's my full review. ruclips.net/video/btZENfhLjAA/видео.html
hope you can get ammo
@@omikredarhcs8221 i hope so too
@@AlaskanBallistics Maybe more hunters will actually go to code red when they hunt in bear territory.
It always amazes me when I realize how the typical hiker is sadly mistaken about bares. I guess you really do have to see one in woooperson in the bush to appreciate how fast and ferocious the really can be. Having seen bares while working up in the Olympic Peninsula Wa. I’ll never forget the speed and power of the average size brown bare. Sheeet! Fast ain’t the word for it!
Well said
Great video and line up. Was considering a 12.5in 308 ar10 pistol/sbr & Glock 40 for when I’m in the mountains of Montana.
Good combo
Situation awareness and practicing with your weapons is sound advice. I don't know if there's anything that one can do to simulate the adrenal rush and shock that goes with an encounter. That's where reaction from repitition becomes maybe your best defense.
Agreed
I was watching this with my .460 Rowland and .45 70 Marlin in mind. As the list winded away, I was thinking "Man I must be stupid to think a .45 70 was still relevant." Thanks, Alaska.
Lol... two great choices my friend