Do you think this finally answers the question that has been poised throughout this era and that is: “What do the Jedi fear the most?” Is the answer presented to us as “Fear itself”since the levellers induce and heighten what the Jedi fear through hallucinations?
It just occurred to me the Nameless are similar to Metroids - they drain the life force (or just the Force) from their victims, and leave them as calcified husks when they drained all their life energy.
I agree that they aren't immune to the Force, they seem very similar to the Nazgûl (Ringwraiths in LotR), who fill their enemies which such abject Terror that they're incapable of fighting back. So cool to see this in Star Wars! Maybe "the veil" references that these are from outside the known galaxy (like the Vong), and managed to make it through to the SW galaxy (pierced the veil)? Also "the Nameless" is probably inspired by the Nameless Things from LotR such as the Watcher in the Water, which are said by Gandalf to be older than Sauron, and refuses to describe them for fear merely talking about them would "darken the light of day".
This is exactly what kind of threat I've wanted to see the Jedi face against for a while and they look very suffiently terrifying. I'm a bit behind on the High Republic but I'm assuming the Leveler is like a king of these creatures like how the Drengir had the Great Progenitor or there is some connection at least. I remember a big deal was made about one specific creature Ro had in captivity and now there's multiple of them. That would be my guess
The ysalamiri from the original Thrawn Trilogy had a great hypothetical explanation. Because there were predators on their planet that hunted them using the Force, they adapted an aura that made it impossible to touch the Force in their presence. Evolution!
Called it from the beginning, as did many others! Nice job everybody who did. I wonder how it’ll connect to the prophecy of the chosen one, like it says in Master and Apprentice. I doubt they’ll tell us outright, but once it’s over we can probably put the pieces together in our heads.
It’s probably how they discover the midichlorians. That is: The Nameless don’t eat the Force-as that doesn’t make sense-but eat the midichlorians. And so the Jedi fall into increasingly materialist understandings of the Force…
The lullaby reminds me of Doctor Who. Zagreus sits inside your head, Zagreus lives among the dead, Zagreus sees you in your bed, And eats you when you're sleeping.
I hope this all gets mentioned in issue #2 of Eye Of The Storm, cause, within the adult novels, We never even hear the titles, "The Nameless", or, "Eaters Of The Force". We also never even hear of any Sith involvement, either. That would certainly be an interesting development: The destruction of The Jedi, due to a Former Jedi who turned to Dark Side Alchemy. I have made connections to the Ysalamiri of Timothy Zahn's Thrawn trilogy, as well; since, they have definite similarities. I may have to buy the Trail Of Shadows comic series (though, I have not liked my experiences with Daniel Jose Older's comics, so far), since it seems required reading for The High Republic. I am very curious and intrigued to see how all of the present chaos connects to the time period 150 years before it. I'm most interested in reading about Porter Engle, in his heyday...basically, his middle years. I'm guessing, whatever crime/wrong-doing/betrayal that involves The Evereni, took place then, or even hundreds of years before. Thanks for the briefing.
Here's an idea involving the nameless. Since Star Wars Jedi: Survivor has things related to the High Republic, Cal Kestis could find one of them and use it to fight Vader and the Inquisitors.
I still think the prophecy about many Jedi being sacrificed to cleanse the sin done to the nameless more likely refers to the Clone Army and the Jedi Purge that happens after that. But an interesting thing to note nonetheless.
It makes me wonder if “Levelers” are related to Abaloth? How would the Son or the Daughter of the Celestials be able to contain or destroy these things? I have been a expanded universe of Star Wars and horror movies since I was a child. If Disney ever does anything with the license of Star Wars. How many people would go see a R rated Star Wars movie with the Blackwing Virus? Seen in both the books Red Harvest and Death Troopers? I would, (as long as Lucas stays far far away from it). Still, if there was no way to avoid his hands on things. Seeing Jar Jar Binks infected with that virus would be hilarious.
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This is probably one of the most frightening things to come out of the Disney canon. Another Legends comparison might by Darth Nihilus's Force draining powers. In a way, the idea of the Nameless feeding on the Force brings some similarities in mind to the Forceless from my fanfiction, Paranormalities. Unlike the Ysalamiri, the Forceless aren't immune to the Force so much as they are born completely devoid of it (the reason for their existence being that they are a byproduct of wounds in the Force, basically the Force attempting a patch job on itself), but at the same time, they are attracted to the living Force (and this is at their most primal motivations, not counting more sapient motivations they may develop like seeking to dominate others). But instead of draining the living Force from them, they usually possess living beings to taste the Force (at best, it's a symbiotic bond where the Forceless lets their host do what they please, or at worst, a full body takeover with the victim still conscious; it all depends on the motives of the Forceless and the Herald that shaped their personality via the original bond). As for which one would be the more terrifying of the two? While the Forceless have their own presence that makes Jedi uncomfortable, it isn't dangerous to them. On the other hand, Forceless are capable of becoming sapient, and are no more capable of good or evil than any other sapient. It would also depend on whether you see being possessed, mutated, and enslaved for who knows how long (and the eviler Forceless Collectives can absorb the living Force to have you resurrected later if you are killed) or being forced to experience extreme fear while being slowly calcified to death (and implicitly prevented from moving on to the Force afterlife by having your soul destroyed) as the worse fate to suffer (either way, they're both worse than death).
I haven't been following this series much but the Nameless almost seem a lot like Pennywise from It where they are supernatural feeding off the force like Pennywise feeds on fear and they both can take the form of something the person fears.
Great video. Brings a semi- related to my mind. What do you think the chances are of seeing the Yuuzhan Vong return? Always felt they were too unique in the Star Wars universe to forget about.
i wonder if the 'nightmare conjunction' is the group that *became* the Nameless, and the sin the jedi committed against them was letting them form in the first place.
Hi Alex I have a question for the Q&A well actually two since Mando has the darksaber currently do you is possible we could get a prequel episode where we see tar vizla create the darksaber and also since Palpatine beat maul in single combat while he was using it would that make Palpatine the sabers rightful owner and technically vader since he killed Palpatine
Could these be Sith Spawn? I know none of that is canon, but it seems like something ancient sith would create, nullifying a jedi with overwhelming fear before killing them 🤷♂️
What confused me when reading the books was, was the Leveler the same thing as the Nameless. I now know it is and seems to be just 1 of many however is there anything special about the Leveler? Why does it even have the name Leveler, why didn't they just call it the Nameless, they could've still had the reveal that there are in fact more of them. Or is it that the Leveler is like the Queen bee. Is it bigger and better than the rest?
I read it as the Leveler just being the first Nameless found by Marchion Ro and was named Leveler because it had the potential to level the playing field against Jedi for non force users. Marchion tried it out a couple of times in the book and after seeing it's effectiveness at the end of The Rising Storm decided to go a find more of them.
@@MikeJones-ds7np That makes the most sense. It's pretty much what I guessed it was once I'd finished. Although it begs the question, where did he find so many others when it seemed like a fairly big effort to get the Leveler? Did his artifact just call them all to him to attack Starlight?
Nothing to do with this video but...what about the new SWTOR trailer? I would love to see your reaction about or at least your opinion on it. I just loved it so much
It was awesome! I love those cinematics and one of our friends co-wrote it which is even more awesome haha. But SWTOR is my biggest blind spot in all of Star Wars so I don’t what to say other than “Looks great!” But maybe I will cover the story being told at some point.
@@StarWarsExplained Personally, I would love anything you would have to say about the Old Republic (and SWTOR). Hopefully, in the future, you will find some time to become an expert on it as well xD
I enjoy so much content from this channel, but it seems like I have to choose between being subscribed, or avoiding spoilers, since I read the trade paperbacks of these comics. Y’all have just posted so many comic spoilers before the TPB is out, even in the title and thumbnail. Which is a huge bummer.
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I really struggle with the Nameless because the entire idea of “eating” something that is literally both omnipresent and dynamic-the Force-is nonsensical. I trust the authors enough to assume we’ll get a good explanation. E.g. are they eating the midichlorians? is this how midichlorians are discovered? …thus leading to understanding the Force in a materialistic way in the PT and all of the issues that entails… But yeah, so far this is the most annoying and disappointing part of the High Republic, which I have adoringly loved, otherwise.
@@bullrun2772 Exactly. How can something eat either an abstract concept such as “life” or the omnipresent, dynamic totality that the abstract concept “life” attempts to describe? I mean, they obviously don’t eat “living creatures” as they don’t really even eat the Jedi, let alone anyone else. And they don’t even eat “the Force” per se, since the Force is in all living things, yet the Nameless only go after Force-users. So, yeah, my money’s on midichlorians as their snack of choice.
I love how increasingly lovecraftian the High Republic has been getting.
Do you think this finally answers the question that has been poised throughout this era and that is: “What do the Jedi fear the most?”
Is the answer presented to us as “Fear itself”since the levellers induce and heighten what the Jedi fear through hallucinations?
I think the answer to that question is yes.
Good to know that they introduced an equivalent to the Dementors in Harry Potter or rather, Cthulhu's children.
It just occurred to me the Nameless are similar to Metroids - they drain the life force (or just the Force) from their victims, and leave them as calcified husks when they drained all their life energy.
The Force eaters are like kryptonite to the Jedi.
I agree that they aren't immune to the Force, they seem very similar to the Nazgûl (Ringwraiths in LotR), who fill their enemies which such abject Terror that they're incapable of fighting back.
So cool to see this in Star Wars!
Maybe "the veil" references that these are from outside the known galaxy (like the Vong), and managed to make it through to the SW galaxy (pierced the veil)?
Also "the Nameless" is probably inspired by the Nameless Things from LotR such as the Watcher in the Water, which are said by Gandalf to be older than Sauron, and refuses to describe them for fear merely talking about them would "darken the light of day".
I like the idea of these. Monsters who are overwhelming in the force that, essentially, disable any force sensitive they target.
This is exactly what kind of threat I've wanted to see the Jedi face against for a while and they look very suffiently terrifying. I'm a bit behind on the High Republic but I'm assuming the Leveler is like a king of these creatures like how the Drengir had the Great Progenitor or there is some connection at least. I remember a big deal was made about one specific creature Ro had in captivity and now there's multiple of them. That would be my guess
The ysalamiri from the original Thrawn Trilogy had a great hypothetical explanation. Because there were predators on their planet that hunted them using the Force, they adapted an aura that made it impossible to touch the Force in their presence. Evolution!
I laughed so hard from the "buckets of muscles. Damn!" comment. Rofl
Love how the greatest strength of the Jedi is twisted into a weakness.
Called it from the beginning, as did many others! Nice job everybody who did. I wonder how it’ll connect to the prophecy of the chosen one, like it says in Master and Apprentice. I doubt they’ll tell us outright, but once it’s over we can probably put the pieces together in our heads.
I don't think every prophecy from that book is connected to the Chosen One
@@matheusfernandes2102 That’s true it might not be. Either way it’ll be interesting
It’s probably how they discover the midichlorians. That is: The Nameless don’t eat the Force-as that doesn’t make sense-but eat the midichlorians. And so the Jedi fall into increasingly materialist understandings of the Force…
The lullaby reminds me of Doctor Who.
Zagreus sits inside your head,
Zagreus lives among the dead,
Zagreus sees you in your bed,
And eats you when you're sleeping.
I never thought an Ongree could be so terrifying, but that nanny singing a scary lullaby sent shivers down my spine.
Great to see varied kinds of threats like these, it's a huge galaxy out there so there are bound to be some lovecraftian horrors.
I hope this all gets mentioned in issue #2 of Eye Of The Storm, cause, within the adult novels, We never even hear the titles, "The Nameless", or, "Eaters Of The Force". We also never even hear of any Sith involvement, either. That would certainly be an interesting development: The destruction of The Jedi, due to a Former Jedi who turned to Dark Side Alchemy. I have made connections to the Ysalamiri of Timothy Zahn's Thrawn trilogy, as well; since, they have definite similarities. I may have to buy the Trail Of Shadows comic series (though, I have not liked my experiences with Daniel Jose Older's comics, so far), since it seems required reading for The High Republic. I am very curious and intrigued to see how all of the present chaos connects to the time period 150 years before it. I'm most interested in reading about Porter Engle, in his heyday...basically, his middle years. I'm guessing, whatever crime/wrong-doing/betrayal that involves The Evereni, took place then, or even hundreds of years before. Thanks for the briefing.
Here's an idea involving the nameless. Since Star Wars Jedi: Survivor has things related to the High Republic, Cal Kestis could find one of them and use it to fight Vader and the Inquisitors.
Okay, that would definitely be awesome
BUCKETS OF MUSCLES LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
I hope we will see in Phase II how Vidyarvrikt leared that song.
I still think the prophecy about many Jedi being sacrificed to cleanse the sin done to the nameless more likely refers to the Clone Army and the Jedi Purge that happens after that. But an interesting thing to note nonetheless.
It makes me wonder if “Levelers” are related to Abaloth? How would the Son or the Daughter of the Celestials be able to contain or destroy these things? I have been a expanded universe of Star Wars and horror movies since I was a child. If Disney ever does anything with the license of Star Wars. How many people would go see a R rated Star Wars movie with the Blackwing Virus? Seen in both the books Red Harvest and Death Troopers? I would, (as long as Lucas stays far far away from it). Still, if there was no way to avoid his hands on things. Seeing Jar Jar Binks infected with that virus would be hilarious.
Probably one of my favorite additions to Star Wars are these eldritch horrors. Man I hope to see one in either animation or live action one day lol.
Star Wars now has its own version of Pennywise
Trail of Shadows was GREAT!!
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This is pure Lovecraft.
the nameless are smillar to abeloth's force psychosis then the ysalamiri
I do wonder if these creatures related to the grisk threat that Thrawn is trying to prevent!?
Buckets of muscles!
And now that we can see them, they look terrifying !!!!!
This is probably one of the most frightening things to come out of the Disney canon. Another Legends comparison might by Darth Nihilus's Force draining powers.
In a way, the idea of the Nameless feeding on the Force brings some similarities in mind to the Forceless from my fanfiction, Paranormalities. Unlike the Ysalamiri, the Forceless aren't immune to the Force so much as they are born completely devoid of it (the reason for their existence being that they are a byproduct of wounds in the Force, basically the Force attempting a patch job on itself), but at the same time, they are attracted to the living Force (and this is at their most primal motivations, not counting more sapient motivations they may develop like seeking to dominate others). But instead of draining the living Force from them, they usually possess living beings to taste the Force (at best, it's a symbiotic bond where the Forceless lets their host do what they please, or at worst, a full body takeover with the victim still conscious; it all depends on the motives of the Forceless and the Herald that shaped their personality via the original bond).
As for which one would be the more terrifying of the two? While the Forceless have their own presence that makes Jedi uncomfortable, it isn't dangerous to them. On the other hand, Forceless are capable of becoming sapient, and are no more capable of good or evil than any other sapient. It would also depend on whether you see being possessed, mutated, and enslaved for who knows how long (and the eviler Forceless Collectives can absorb the living Force to have you resurrected later if you are killed) or being forced to experience extreme fear while being slowly calcified to death (and implicitly prevented from moving on to the Force afterlife by having your soul destroyed) as the worse fate to suffer (either way, they're both worse than death).
A video looking back at all the prophecies from Master and Apprentice would be amazing
BUCKETS OF MUSCLES! lol
I haven't been following this series much but the Nameless almost seem a lot like Pennywise from It where they are supernatural feeding off the force like Pennywise feeds on fear and they both can take the form of something the person fears.
Its cthulhu's grand kids.
They look like corrupted and monstered Rakatan
Nameless reminds me of the endless from halo infinite endless vs nameless plz..
Finally more high republic videos
So it not far fetched for a beings to be immune to the force.
Could you do a short with the audio clip of the tune of the lullaby featured in Tempest Runner, so we can see what it sounds like?
It almost sounds like these creatures could be “black holes” in the Force.
They remind me of mind flayers from DnD
Great video. Brings a semi- related to my mind. What do you think the chances are of seeing the Yuuzhan Vong return? Always felt they were too unique in the Star Wars universe to forget about.
Ghosts of vaders castle said the nameless purge... I think that detail is the sins of the nameless
The comic was sooo great
What if The Nameless came comes across a Jedi who fears nothing? What would happen I wonder…
i wonder if the 'nightmare conjunction' is the group that *became* the Nameless, and the sin the jedi committed against them was letting them form in the first place.
space boggart
Thanks, Alex! 🐙
Curious about how they'd interact with a dark side user. I'm sure it would work on them, but would it work differently.
I really really liked the name "The great Leveler"
As you sung "Shri karay karay", I was hoping you'd next sing "They're taking the hobbits to Isengard!"
Hi Alex I have a question for the Q&A well actually two since Mando has the darksaber currently do you is possible we could get a prequel episode where we see tar vizla create the darksaber and also since Palpatine beat maul in single combat while he was using it would that make Palpatine the sabers rightful owner and technically vader since he killed Palpatine
I'm so down with Cthulhu Star Wars
Could these be Sith Spawn? I know none of that is canon, but it seems like something ancient sith would create, nullifying a jedi with overwhelming fear before killing them 🤷♂️
They kinda sound like blanks with psykers from 40k
But if they were also Genestealers.
I’m assuming that one cannot become a force ghost if I one gets “husked”
It looks like the creature from the first Hellboy
Wish this title wasn't spoilery. Stinks to be a few comics behind.
They do seem similar to other sithspawn so I don’t think it’s impossible for them to also be artificially created
Very interesting
What confused me when reading the books was, was the Leveler the same thing as the Nameless. I now know it is and seems to be just 1 of many however is there anything special about the Leveler? Why does it even have the name Leveler, why didn't they just call it the Nameless, they could've still had the reveal that there are in fact more of them. Or is it that the Leveler is like the Queen bee. Is it bigger and better than the rest?
I read it as the Leveler just being the first Nameless found by Marchion Ro and was named Leveler because it had the potential to level the playing field against Jedi for non force users. Marchion tried it out a couple of times in the book and after seeing it's effectiveness at the end of The Rising Storm decided to go a find more of them.
@@MikeJones-ds7np That makes the most sense. It's pretty much what I guessed it was once I'd finished. Although it begs the question, where did he find so many others when it seemed like a fairly big effort to get the Leveler? Did his artifact just call them all to him to attack Starlight?
@@groge511He find more on their home planet, it's location is so secret it's practically a myth
Wonder if the writer is a fan of the band Pierce the Veil.
So cthullu of SW universe got it
Nothing to do with this video but...what about the new SWTOR trailer? I would love to see your reaction about or at least your opinion on it. I just loved it so much
It was awesome! I love those cinematics and one of our friends co-wrote it which is even more awesome haha. But SWTOR is my biggest blind spot in all of Star Wars so I don’t what to say other than “Looks great!” But maybe I will cover the story being told at some point.
@@StarWarsExplained Personally, I would love anything you would have to say about the Old Republic (and SWTOR). Hopefully, in the future, you will find some time to become an expert on it as well xD
Now do a video about Star Wars characters and underwear lol
I enjoy so much content from this channel, but it seems like I have to choose between being subscribed, or avoiding spoilers, since I read the trade paperbacks of these comics. Y’all have just posted so many comic spoilers before the TPB is out, even in the title and thumbnail. Which is a huge bummer.
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Force Cthulu!
Who do you think the hooded figure is with Yoda in the last HR novel?
I'm still mad over Orla jereni
so will they look like the one's in the old republic
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I really struggle with the Nameless because the entire idea of “eating” something that is literally both omnipresent and dynamic-the Force-is nonsensical. I trust the authors enough to assume we’ll get a good explanation. E.g. are they eating the midichlorians? is this how midichlorians are discovered? …thus leading to understanding the Force in a materialistic way in the PT and all of the issues that entails…
But yeah, so far this is the most annoying and disappointing part of the High Republic, which I have adoringly loved, otherwise.
The force is life duh
@@bullrun2772 Exactly. How can something eat either an abstract concept such as “life” or the omnipresent, dynamic totality that the abstract concept “life” attempts to describe? I mean, they obviously don’t eat “living creatures” as they don’t really even eat the Jedi, let alone anyone else. And they don’t even eat “the Force” per se, since the Force is in all living things, yet the Nameless only go after Force-users. So, yeah, my money’s on midichlorians as their snack of choice.
@@jeffmiller6025 lol alright you didn’t even get what I was saying lol
@@bullrun2772 I think you missed what I was doing in my reply. But no worries. Peace.
I don't think it litteraly eat the Force
But it inspire a fear so potent and absolute that Force-users cannot focus and use their powers