I agree with your assessment. I don't lower my tire pressure. I just deal with it. Installation pinch flats come from inserting the lever too deeply and then over rotating it. If you only go to 90 degrees with the lever there's almost zero chance of the lever grabbing the tube and pinching it against the rim.
Fully agree, Michael! I’m not an expert tyre changer but have changed about 30-40 tires so far without ever getting a pinch. I must say that I do go over 90 degrees with the tire spoon but I’m very careful to hook only the tip of the tire spoon against the rim. If you push it inside too much then a pinch is likely to happen. Cheers mate
Good points. For most use cases HD tubes are not the best choice (like big adv bikes). One consideration to add is changing tubes in the field, it’s easier to pinch regular tube during installation.
My understanding is that most installation pinch flats occur when the tire levers are over rotated while catching the tube and pressing it into the rim. Never rotate the lever past 90 degrees and it will be nearly impossible to pinch it.
So it's Wedesday and put standard tube in. Because it is extreme heat in the tropics here..Added heat from a Heavy duty tube not welcome Also, I added a motion pro rim lock Thanks for that advice. Also, vibration on handle bars?. I put the barkbuster handle bar weights on now..They look great and solve the vibration problem in stock handlebars. After I removed the original crf handlebar inserts. Also it is always hot here. The thought of foam grips makes me not wanting more heat to my hands. But I would take foam grips over vibrations. You have been so helpful. I have only had Yamaha and ktm supermoto bikes before. I'm too old to waste money, so watching u is helping heaps.. Thanks, mate.!
Hi Alex I agree. For most riders heavy duty tubes are not needed and rim locks is a good idea. About the vibration I can definitely tell you that it is a big improvement to use foam grips… I’d say it is not reduced to zero. I live in a cold environment but I don’t think your hands will be much hotter with the foam grips. Cheers
Last year on the TED Bosnia-Montenegro-Albania-Greece I used a heavy duty tube on the rear, short we arrived our destination in Greece the tube died - gathered was no damage from outside - so I think it´s not worth the money - I ride about 30K Km on n ormal types without any issue.
Hey Djordje! Thanks for the comment as always ! Haha the editing of the trip to Montenegro is taking me much longer than expected. I recorded far too much stuff and now I’m overwhelmed 😂. Hopefully it will be out within the next 3 months. Cheers mate
Nice explanation, thanks. When riding to Mongolia I got spare front and rear HD tubes. Really heavy and bulky. Ended up using both of them but regular tubes would have been better.
Thanks for the comment! On my last trip to Montenegro I had the HD installed on the front and carried a spare regular tube. I agree with you. Spare tubes should be regular. It’s just too bulky otherwise. Nice that you went to Mongolia! How long was the trip?
Excellent content as always!...and of course it depends on the way we drive and where we do it...the front tire would also be the most logical for me although I was looking at the tubliss and it seems to me that that is to end all the concerns....Gracias Amigo!!!....Pura Vida!!!!
Thanks for the comment! I have not riden with tubliss so far. I’ve heard that tubliss is not suitable at all if you need to do highway riding. My problem is that I always need to take highway to get to some nice off-road 😓.
@@RoiaMoto Oh really!?!? 🤔...well then in that case...If they are not suitable for the highway then they are not the end of all the concerns 😂😂...thanks for the info!!!! 👍 I appreciate your knowledge!!! 🤝.......Pura Vida Amigo!!!!
Excellent video. I have found that I have an easier time installing a tire using a standard tube vs heavy duty. They seen to have less bulk in the way when you are trying to get the tire bead into the drop centre. Especially with a stiff tire like a D606. What has your experience been?
Hi mate Since trying the heavy duty tubes I have not yet had to change then with hand tools only…. Got no flats so far. I’ve changed it using the Rabaconda tyre changer and i couldn’t notice any difference. I can imagine that it makes it harder when changing it with hand tools.
Hi mate. Indeed I don’t have a back to back testing about how much extra heat will end up your tires with the thicker tube. The logic for me makes sense. The more mass there is, the more mass is available to hold heat. But I can’t tell you if under the same conditions this would mean a 1 degree or 10 degrees in temperature difference.
Hi Getting a new tyre on Wednesday. After watching this .I may not get the heavy tube. Most of the year, Temp ranges from 42 to 32 Celsius max temp, where I ride. I will do some more research, but i think I'll go take your advice . Put heavy duty on the front tyre only. Tyres give me a headache ha ha!.Great vid!
Hey Alex! How is it going? This topic is somehow “controversial”. As I said it, if you ask 10 riders you will get 10 different answers. Some swear by heavy duty tubes while others think is a waste of time 😂. Thanks as always for commenting! Nice weekend
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I agree with your assessment. I don't lower my tire pressure. I just deal with it. Installation pinch flats come from inserting the lever too deeply and then over rotating it. If you only go to 90 degrees with the lever there's almost zero chance of the lever grabbing the tube and pinching it against the rim.
Fully agree, Michael!
I’m not an expert tyre changer but have changed about 30-40 tires so far without ever getting a pinch.
I must say that I do go over 90 degrees with the tire spoon but I’m very careful to hook only the tip of the tire spoon against the rim. If you push it inside too much then a pinch is likely to happen.
Cheers mate
Roia Moto, I loved this video so much, I had to hit the like button!
Thanks for a great video and explanation, I wish I saw this before I went out and purchased 2 heavy duty tubes.
Hi Michael and thanks for the supportive comment! Glad to hear the video was useful to you!
Safe rides!
Good points. For most use cases HD tubes are not the best choice (like big adv bikes). One consideration to add is changing tubes in the field, it’s easier to pinch regular tube during installation.
Good point!
My understanding is that most installation pinch flats occur when the tire levers are over rotated while catching the tube and pressing it into the rim. Never rotate the lever past 90 degrees and it will be nearly impossible to pinch it.
yes
So it's Wedesday and put standard tube in. Because it is extreme heat in the tropics here..Added heat from a Heavy duty tube not welcome Also, I added a motion pro rim lock
Thanks for that advice. Also, vibration on handle bars?. I put the barkbuster handle bar weights on now..They look great and solve the vibration problem in stock handlebars. After I removed the original crf handlebar inserts. Also it is always hot here. The thought of foam grips makes me not wanting more heat to my hands. But I would take foam grips over vibrations. You have been so helpful. I have only had Yamaha and ktm supermoto bikes before. I'm too old to waste money, so watching u is helping heaps.. Thanks, mate.!
Hi Alex
I agree. For most riders heavy duty tubes are not needed and rim locks is a good idea.
About the vibration I can definitely tell you that it is a big improvement to use foam grips… I’d say it is not reduced to zero.
I live in a cold environment but I don’t think your hands will be much hotter with the foam grips.
Cheers
Last year on the TED Bosnia-Montenegro-Albania-Greece I used a heavy duty tube on the rear, short we arrived our destination in Greece the tube died - gathered was no damage from outside - so I think it´s not worth the money - I ride about 30K Km on n ormal types without any issue.
Ohhh.. that’s pretty bad! Any idea how it happened? Was it due to abrasion?
Last year I’ve done Bosnia and Montenegro.
How was the Albanian TET? 🤩
Nice and informative as usual. Also, We got some sneaky peeky scenes from Montenegro again ;) waiting for those videos ;)
Hey Djordje!
Thanks for the comment as always !
Haha the editing of the trip to Montenegro is taking me much longer than expected. I recorded far too much stuff and now I’m overwhelmed 😂.
Hopefully it will be out within the next 3 months.
Cheers mate
@@RoiaMoto as I heard, this year Montegro is almost rideable already. Hurry up :)
Nice explanation, thanks. When riding to Mongolia I got spare front and rear HD tubes. Really heavy and bulky. Ended up using both of them but regular tubes would have been better.
Thanks for the comment!
On my last trip to Montenegro I had the HD installed on the front and carried a spare regular tube.
I agree with you. Spare tubes should be regular. It’s just too bulky otherwise.
Nice that you went to Mongolia! How long was the trip?
Excellent content as always!...and of course it depends on the way we drive and where we do it...the front tire would also be the most logical for me although I was looking at the tubliss and it seems to me that that is to end all the concerns....Gracias Amigo!!!....Pura Vida!!!!
Thanks for the comment!
I have not riden with tubliss so far.
I’ve heard that tubliss is not suitable at all if you need to do highway riding.
My problem is that I always need to take highway to get to some nice off-road 😓.
@@RoiaMoto
Oh really!?!? 🤔...well then in that case...If they are not suitable for the highway then they are not the end of all the concerns 😂😂...thanks for the info!!!! 👍 I appreciate your knowledge!!! 🤝.......Pura Vida Amigo!!!!
Excellent video. I have found that I have an easier time installing a tire using a standard tube vs heavy duty. They seen to have less bulk in the way when you are trying to get the tire bead into the drop centre. Especially with a stiff tire like a D606. What has your experience been?
Good comment !
Hi mate
Since trying the heavy duty tubes I have not yet had to change then with hand tools only…. Got no flats so far.
I’ve changed it using the Rabaconda tyre changer and i couldn’t notice any difference.
I can imagine that it makes it harder when changing it with hand tools.
I don’t buy the story of running hotter. Love to see the science and data on that one. Heat use story lots
Hi mate.
Indeed I don’t have a back to back testing about how much extra heat will end up your tires with the thicker tube.
The logic for me makes sense. The more mass there is, the more mass is available to hold heat. But I can’t tell you if under the same conditions this would mean a 1 degree or 10 degrees in temperature difference.
Hi Getting a new tyre on Wednesday. After watching this .I may not get the heavy tube. Most of the year, Temp ranges from 42 to 32 Celsius max temp, where I ride. I will do some more research, but i think I'll go take your advice . Put heavy duty on the front tyre only. Tyres give me a headache ha ha!.Great vid!
Hey Alex! How is it going?
This topic is somehow “controversial”. As I said it, if you ask 10 riders you will get 10 different answers.
Some swear by heavy duty tubes while others think is a waste of time 😂.
Thanks as always for commenting!
Nice weekend
@@RoiaMoto Yes. It's the weight and tyre wear that has got my attention. Thanks.
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Thanks for the support!