Batman & Robin (1997) Retrospective / Review
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- Originally published in 2014, had to be re-edited due to a copyright claim from INgrooves which blocked the review worldwide. I had to, unfortunately, cut out the end trailer which has had a number of claims over the years and this recent one the claimant wouldn't budge so it had to be removed.
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Batman & Robin (1997) Retrospective / Review
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Originally published in 2014, had to be re-edited due to a copyright claim from INgrooves which blocked the review worldwide. I had to, unfortunately, cut out the end trailer which has had a number of claims over the years and this recent one the claimant wouldn't budge so it had to be removed.
Are you breathing right now? I ask because there is a new oxygen tax.... FYI
Copyright claims... I'm trying not to spit out profanities now.
This was always my favorite of yours because of the opening/ending bit. It speaks to me.
GASP! You cut out the ending! Reeeeeee!
Fucking RUclips...
I honestly can't call this a "bad" movie. If you have fun watching it, well it did it's job.
Schumacher stated himself after he apologized for the finished product that he just set out to entertain us, I think he did his job. RIP
@@scottvincent184 entertaining as watching someone who can't sing on the X-factor or similar.
Well I didn't have fun watching it
That's literally the best thing. Does it make your day better? Done.
It was really the script that sucked. The garish, overwrought visuals wouldn't have mattered much if the script wasn't dog shit.
Mr. Freeze is Criminally Underrated. I Wish they’d make a Movie with him as the Villain Again but Taken Seriously
I think the animated series is the only version that's done his character justice.
Your random capitalizations bother me
This movie set Mr.Freeze back about 30 years.
The animated films always come to save us with the serious writing and execution, but I do agree a serious Patrick Stewart Mr.Freeze main character led film would have been a glorious experience
That little trailer at the beginning actually made the movie look good. It's amazing what could be accomplished with good editing.
I thought this movie wasn't as bad as people make it out to be, it had a few really good scenes here and there. The problem was too much studio interference and them not letting Joel Schumacher go all the way with his original vision just like in Batman Forever with the deleted scenes
Irony: Parents complained about Batman Returns being too dark for their kids and wanted a lighter Batman movie. Then, those same parents had to put up with their kids begging them for Batman toys.
And the kids still had the last laugh because they were the ones carrying the Nolan Batmans to great success.
Profound
There's a word for this... and it's hypocrisy.
Parental groups ruined a lot of movies. Look at the first Ninja Turtles movie. It was near perfect. It had just the right balance of the seriousness of the comics and the comedy from the cartoon. So what happened? Parents who took their kids to see the movie didn’t realize that it was based more on the comics than the cartoon and felt the movie was too inappropriate for kids. The moralists complained and as a result, the sequel was toned down, lighthearted and dumb to the point where the Turtles weren’t even allowed to use their weapons most of the time. Instead, the sequel taught small children how to assault people with objects regularly found around the house such as yo-yos and sausage sticks. Way to go, parents, you dumbasses.
@@jon-erich9752 Don't forget the creation of the PG-13 rating thinks to parents who complained that Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom and Gremlins were too violent for kids.
I was 9 yrs old when I saw this movie in theaters n loved it. I was a kid though
Same
I got nightmare of this as a kid
RUclips is such a bastard when it comes to anything that's copyrighted.
And even public domain stuff !
#WTFU
You betcha
Why what got copyrighted
@@187mrsmith Oliver’s video got a strike for using the music from The Dark Knight Trilogy.
What killed the dinosaurs ?
The ice age !!!
Oh dear
@joseph watson I remember the days of only 2 genders
Good days
@@themanwithoutaface4092 definetly good old days
“It will be Adam & Evil”
Oh cringe.
Bat nipples engaged!
...and it's not even accurate.
I like this guys reviews. He is totally objective and doesn't go on the same ole fanboy rants like others do
Sometimes yes; sometimes no.
Everyone make fun of Arnold in that, but I think he did pretty well, how can you deliver those lines without sounding like a moron. He did as well as anyone could
I agree with you
Really George Clooney? This movie is George Clooney playing George Clooney as Batman. Chris O'Donnell did well as Robin and Ahrnold did well as Freeze.
Would have preferred Stewart as Freeze. George Clooney as Batman is...something else. Uma did great as Poison Ivy.
By God Oliver Harper can make a trailer of any movie and make it look epic.
Omg!! I was just thinking that!!! He makes even this drivel seem important !!!
Glad to watch this one again :)
That musical score is fookin MAJESTIC
So, the way I took the Superman "joke" at 6:50 was, although Clooney's delivery is OFF by a LONG shot, Batman was referring to Robin annoyingly demanding a car of his own. That's why Superman works alone, so he doesn't have to deal with a bratty sidekick demanding things.
So why is there so much Batman "fans" that don't know that the comics of the sixties were _exactly_ like the Adam West show... making this movie pretty damn comic accurate. Not saying it's a great movie, but "fans" that hate it for "not being accurate" are just ignorant of the comics history. Also, this is still the only Batman film where Batman doesn't kill anyone.
BTW, Nolans films are the _least_ accurate adaptations, despite their quality. That's coming from someone who's been reading comics for 30 years... "realism" is never what I read comics for... and _that's_ how you can spot actual comic readers, we don't give 2 shits about realism.
Samur/Aye Exactly
Patrick Stewart went on to play Professor X. And Anthony Hopkins went on to play Odin. Interesting.
I know people hate batman & robin and rightfully so. However for me I have a soft spot for it maybe it’s tied to some nostalgia probably is. Also Uma Thurman was great for ivy one of my many childhood crushes good times.
Oh yes, Uma Thurman is a fantastic actress and a truly interesting woman. Not a bimbo, but an intelligent, engaging and of course beautiful woman. But in her case her beauty is only a small part of what makes her attractive.
Yep i loved this as a kid still like it even though the hate
It's a Fun, Movie...
Exactly the same with me , when I was a kid I absolutely loved this movie , I was blown away by it when it released back in 1997 , however growing up you understand more & i realised it’s not a good movie , but I have that soft spot for it too when I remember watching it though my eyes as a child..
Uma Thurman is fantastic in the film, and the sub-plot of Alfred being sick is very touching and it gives the wonderful Michael Gough more screen time. Apart from that it's garbage, but those two good qualities make it watchable.
I now refer to this final Schumacher Batman entry as "Batman: Live!!! Six Flags Magic Mountain" since it basically feels like a musical or theme park live show.
I grew up with this film, I’ve been watching it my whole life and I honestly love it. It’s hilarious, it’s how I’m gonna watch Batman with my kids (if I ever have kids), and i love it more knowing all that went on BTS
I’m already familiar with it, but your retro/reviews are top fucking notch, Harper
Poor kids
It from a dark Tim Burton world into a weird version of the Adam West batman.....I still watch it.....don't know why.....
I love this movie and Batman forever. They are just so bad they're so good and every once in awhile you NEED those kinds of movies. And the colors, man, the colors. Has anyone seen my friend, Jon?
Batman Forever really isn’t as bad as people make it out to be. It gets lumped in with Batman & Robin too often
@@lmd499 Batman forever wasn't bad. Batman and Robin is just terrible. Pop out ice skates? The whole Batgirl nonsense? They're still ripping this movie and deservedly so
Naw man no one needs a movie like this
Remember, the creator of Batman watched this film before his passing.... This was the last Batman film he saw....
Bob Kane didn't create Batman.
if he was the creator of the Adam west Era batman, reckon he went peacefully.
Batman is a ripoff from Zorro and The Shadow. The first Batman Story "The case of the Chemical Syndicate" is a direct ripoff from a Shadow story. Bill Finger admits this.
Batman was a co-creation by Bill Finger, Bob Kane, Jerry Robinson and Gardner Fox
Pretty much any superhero is a rip-off of something older out of literature or myth.
Hulk is pretty much a Jekyll and Hyde thing. Superman was inspired by the Greek myths of Hercules.
Actually Bill Finger died in 1974
At age 22 I saw this in cinema on release in 1997, though like you Olie, I had huge fears going into it and it turned out to be the horror I suspected.
15 minutes in I knew this was the death of the current Batman series. I wanted to.leave early but stayed to perve at Alicia Silverstone's ass in leather 😂😂😂😁
I don't think Clooney was just playing "Clooney", I think he was playing "Clooney who doesn't give a shit" throughout most of the film. (except in the scenes with Alfred) =)
Didn't he flat out state as such in an interview somewhere? He also said something along the lines of 'playing Batman as gay as possible'. Which I assume refers to the constant grins and head spasming/jerking.
Thanks for re-uploading this video
This is a great sequel to the 1966 television show. Period.
Unfortunately it's part of a 4 movie franchise. I agree the tone matches the show but it's so awful compared to even Batman Forever (which was pretty crap) that it gets viewed negatively. Even Schumacher admitted he went too camp.
They never should've replaced Burton.
Not anymore, thanks crisis and some producers confirmation at DC the last 2 take place on earth 97 while the other 2 on earth 89 basically the movies are unrelated now.
@@silverbolt9439 that changes my opinion ZERO. Thanks for taking the time to reply though.
I distinctly remember waking up the day this came out and picking up the newspaper and reading the atrocious reviews for it. I was 21 and in college at the time. It really was that bad tho.
I cant believe how good your intros are. The choice of dialogue mixed with your choice of music in addition to the timing of it all is simply phenomenal. You even made this terrible movie look good. Bravo!
A BAT-CREDIT CARD???
NC
Smith Wesson never leave the cave without it
Then Linkara killed the joke
Who issued that American Express lol
Never leave the cave without it
See how Joel Schumacher apologized to fans for making a mess of a movie & not attack them... now that's a real director... take note Rian idiot Johnson!
First thing that came to my mind too.
THANK YOU! Thinking the exact same thing. If Rian Johnson would just apologize, then maybe throw himself into a volcano or a crocodile infested swamp, all would be forgiven.
@@capitalcitygoofball1987 😂😂😂😂
@Harris Caldwelly
Yes. Rian Johnson is truly the worst thing ever.
Uh......
Right.
@Tony S
Apologize for what?
That star wars fans are another prime example on why we as a society can't have things because we don't know act to fucking act?
this is a great review. and what i came to realise while watching it is how stunning this movie still is visually despite all of its other flaws. it really is an example of craftsmanship of its time, with some cgi being mixed with optical and practical effects. if only they went with a less cheasy, more mature approach with everything else...
Love these in-depth retrospectives!
I’ve never really noticed until now, how good the soundtrack is. Shame the film was terrible though
One of my fave parts of these videos is your ability to even make the most...questionable films come off as competent. Alfred Gough was amazing as always and Elliot Goldenthal's theme is always a win. Clooney was a decent Bruce Wayne, but why he didn't even try to do a Bat voice is upsetting.
This movie had a great soundtrack ngl
R.I.P Joel Schumacher 1939-2020
Oliver,
Would you consider reviewing Joel Schumacher’s film adaptation of Andrew Lloyd Webber’s “The Phantom of the Opera?”
Am I the only one here who thinks Elliot Goldenthal's work is massively underrated ? The score to Batman & Robin is superb and less frenetic than Batman Forever's and in my mind almost as memorable as Elfman's work on the series. Just pick a Batman comics from the 60's and switch on the soundtrack. You'll thank me for it. I hope it will get a proper release one day !
I come back to watch the trailer edited at the beginning, one of my favorite alfred quotes about Batman
Oliver, I cannot believe they made you re-edit your first review. Sounds like busy work to me. I actually saw this movie when I was young and didn't hate it! Thank you for this review, I loved it, and I love your picture at the beginning looking badass and dreamy :)
I don't think dark and gritty would've necessarily lead to a better film but I think it would make a more fan pleasing one.
I feel my eyes glazing over during the plot synopsis.
ok so your intro made the movie actually look really cool
Clooney and Schwarznegger casting ruined this movie for me, better if they had delayed it until they refined the script and brought Kilmer back onboard after he finished The Saint.
Val Kilmer = Batman
Chris O'Donnell = RObin
Patrick Stewart = Mr Freeze
Taking cues from the Sub Zero movie
Arnold would make great mr freeze if played seriously in serious and good batman movie
schwartzy65 fuck yeah. Schwarzenegger as Bane with some Terminator anger.
Clooney and Schwarzenegger casting was too distracting especially when they have such well known personas.
No actor on Earth could overcome this script and execution.
I don't care what anyone says, i loved Forever and B&R. I found them entertaining. Maybe that's because i was 7 when they came out. But still!
this movie is CAMP !! i think that the vision was missed lol.. it's supposed to be ridiculous and over the top and funny! i've watched this batman movie more than any of the other ones because it's so distinct and fun
Bash the toys all you'd like, anyone who's interested, but the tie in promotions were fantastic. I still have my collection of four glass mugs from McDonald's for this movie and they still look spectacular.
EDIT: Never mind. The glasses are for _Batman Forever._
Funny as a kid, I watched the hell out of this movie along with Batman Forever. It even introduced me to the character as a whole, and I've come to learn and accept that Schumacher's Batman feels more comical with some understanding to it, with Burton putting up a more darker tone but still finds some understanding.
Needless to say as I grew up, I began to understand the critics bashing at this movie and it's completely valid. At one point, I sided with them too. But in the end, I only say my critics, and then put them away and accept them for what they are. But if I'm telling the truth... I don't think I'll ever hate this movie. I don't have to like it or not, but I can't hate it. It would just hurt my childhood, and I can't go through with it.
So regardless of it's flaws and wrongs, I've accepted it for what it is. An imperfect, full of flaws, and a messy movie that is Batman & Robin.
Oh, man. The dreaded Batman and Robin. I actually saw this in the theater when I was 14. I remember thinking it was a joke, and I was a huge comic book reader even at that age. At the time, I thought I was getting too old for comics, but time has proven that not to be the case, lol. I love comics and comic films, just not bad ones
My Favourite so bad it's good flim
Too many villains equals failure. Spider-Man 3, The Amazing Spider-Man 2,
Unless it's animated or creatively uses previous villains, then yes. It will fail.
@@theserpent8667 Yes I agree. (No Way home is the exception)
Batman and Robin (1997) is one of the panned film ever. I agree with everyone who hates this flick. Mostly due to the performances and child-like nature of this film. Similar to Battlefield Earth and this film they both bombed so hard at the box office.
At least, Batman Forever and Batman Returns was better than this 1997’s film. Thanks to the failure of this film, we got Christopher Nolan to reboot this series starting with 2005’s Batman Begins, 2008’s The Dark Knight, and 2012’s The Dark Knight Rises. And, re-rebooted with Zack Synder’s Batman with Ben Affleck in the role from Batman V Superman (2016) and Justice League (2017/ZS2021). Surprisingly, it was re-re-rebooted with Robert Pattinson in the role in this recent film.
I do agree of letting the toy merchants being heavily involved with the project. I think, similar faith happened with 2017’s Power Rangers film from LionsGates.
I think, if the Director focused on his vision instead of focusing on the toy’s vision of being like a cheap toy movie. No offense in anyway.
That's unfortunate...I absolutely love your end trailers. They are the perfect cap to the videos.
Totally agreed on the Alfred scenes with Clooney both great actors with decent writing. I think that if they went all the way with a tragic story for both Mr Freeze and Alfred the movie will be better
I loathed Batman and Robin upon release, but over the years I've learned to appreciate it as a great bad movie, and as long as I don't connect it with the Burton Batman movies it's a lot of fun. I'll watch it any day over The Dark Knight Rises. Sure B & R is a 90 minute toy advert, but at least it's never boring.
This movie wasn’t that bad. It was good for what it was, a fun, campy, superhero film with really good actors. Uma as Ivy 😍
What I like about your re uploads is the different thumbnails.
I honestly don't think this movie is as bad as people say it is. I don't think it's a good movie and I don't care about this movie but I think people over exaggerated how bad this movie was
"I think it was cool that Arnold played Freeze" I see what you did there.
EVERYBODY SAY "FREEZE"! ARUGHHHHHHH
Fun Fact:The Smashing Pumpkin song "The Beginning of the End is the Beginning" was in the teaser trailer for Snyder's Watchmen.
Which debuted with The Dark Knight.
Coming full circle.
Im waiting for The Dark Knight and Rises.
In all honesty, I would watch Batman & Robin a million times before I ever watched BvS, Suicide Squad, or Justice League again. At least B&R is entertainingly bad. At least it knows what it wants to be. At least it actually has colour. Most of the DCEU is a directionless, colourless, boring eyesore.
You do you mate
I feel the same way about the colour, but I can't say anything because I haven't actually watched this film yet...
I'll add Watchmen to that list. Zack Snyder is fucking awful.
Phil Michaels I also feel this way. I think B&R is entertaining shlock, it's silly and it works on a basic level. I watched it for the first time when I was ten years old, so I actually disagree with Oliver because it was fun for me at that time, and still is.
Of course in hindsight I would've preferred a more comic-accurate depiction of Batman, but that doesn't stop me from enjoying B&R every few years.
B&R is so over-the-top silly that I think it can be forgiven. Unlike certain modern films *cough* BvS *cough* TLJ *cough* SS *cough.* Man, I need to get my cough checked out, that went on a little too long.
Phil Michaels, it just goes to show that Warner Bros. learned nothing B&R's failure. If Nolan wasn't a no-nonsense filmmaker, his movies would've ended up like crap from too much studio influence as well.
The set design and costumes was absolutely ludicrous for this movie. They took what everyone hated about Batman Forever and doubled down on it. Over the top hammy acting and stupidly unrealistic set pieces that were too comic book for a movie adaptation. Then they did away with the serious darker side of Batman Forever that was it's saving grace.
It's amazing how often this happens. People make a sequel to a movie and have ZERO clue what made the first one appealing.
Batman and Robin is almost like a check list of what not to do in a super hero movie.
I love your work Oliver, it is a shame that copyright ruins quality content such as this on RUclips.
Finally someone sheds light on the annoying colorful batman toys that came out around these early Batman movies. I JUST WANTED A REGULAR ASS BLACK SUIT BATMAN lmao!
Could you please do a retrospective of the star wars prequels?
no, please. This channel is perfectly comfy and doesn't need galactic size shitstorm which coming after. Besides, everyone knows how exactly rates prequels and mouse shit.
11:18 R. Kelly... oh dear
It's why Superman works alone, because he has Lois Lane
This came out while I was in Basic Training. I’m a huge Batman fan. When I finally was finished with BMT and technical training, I bought the VHS of this immediately....boy I was so disappointed haha has. God this movie sucked lol.
Who would you cast today as Mr Freeze and Poison Ivy?
My choice would be Bryan Cranston as Mr Freeze and Jessica Chastain as Poison Ivy. That would be excellent casting.
From what I've seen, Poison Ivy wasn't very good in this film. The design, the casting and the character all fell flat. Your fan casting is already much better.
Val Kilmer went right with The a Saint. Oliver, please do a retrospective on that!
Robins dialog: Nah, nah, nah, wah wah, wah, nag, nag, nag.
Arnold's most cheese one-liners ever the entire film. Shook my head nearly 10 minutes worth
My Number 1 guilty pleasure and could watch every week 😂🤣😂
If you look at it as a updated "1960's Adam West" Batman. It's Fun !!!
It's not supposed to be Serious.
Okay, but the director said he wasn't attempting to go for that or outright camp. Regardless, it still doesn't negate the criticisms towards the movie.
@@Ergeniz Agreed. It is Super Fun, one of my favorites. I put it in it's own category. I think it doesn't get a Fair Shake as just a Fun movie...
A great excuse to watch it again!
Batman & Robin is deserving of its infamous reputation as one of the worst superhero films (and maybe even films) ever made.
BUT, it is most definitely a fascinatingly bad movie.
For me the 1990 captain america make's batman and robin look like the dark knight lol.
@theone Andonly I disagree.
It could be argued if Iron Man 2 or Spiderman 3 are worse movies. But Batman and Robin just provides a spectacle in how a production that big crashes and burns before your eyes, that makes it hugely entertaining.
@@wjzav1971 Thor 2 and Spider-Man 3 are just mediocre and middle of the road.
@FUTURE DCEUWARRIORZLIFE I just saw the fantastic 4 one last year lol.
I have to say, this film has grown on me. As a kid I was mortified, I saw it twice in the cinema because I genuinely couldn't believe my eyes, ears, and brain the first viewing.
Now as an adult can can enjoy it for what it is and not for what it is not. There are aspects of this terrible movie that I quite enjoy now that I've managed to divorce myself from my childhood trauma.
I'm one of the few people, apparently, who thoroughly enjoyed this goofy movie... I never took Batman or any comic books on that seriously, and the dishwasher and acting for the most part in this warm we're just fine, hell even impressive at times, and I have to disagree that anyone over 10 finds it boring or lackluster as a comedy because that's exactly how I take it... I know most fans didn't want that for my Batman film, but I was just fine with it at the time and still am... overall, as always a good review but I think it should be noted that you obviously weren't very impressed with this movie because you didn't end it with your usual montage of well edited scenes, lol again...😉
This film was complete bullocks!
Audience: -"This is the worst Batman ever!"
Zack Snyder: -"Hold my beer."
I don't think Zacks Batman movie is worse than this one.
@@tacofingerz7247 I would say it's actually debatable.
@@ReservoirPunk I say BVS is worse, mainly because Batman and Robin has no pretenses about what it is, whereas the former keeps insisting that its convoluted, depressing story and lack of character depth is supposed to give way to something very intricate and complex.
You thought were going to get more likes for that didn't you, hack?!
Parents always have to ruin good movies because they're too dark what do you expect that's what the theme of Batman is
Strongly agree that the scenes between Bruce and Alfred are best (actually, the only) good scenes in this movie. However, any chance to see Chris o’Donnell’s “bum” is mandatory.
I loved Mr,. Freeze's costume because it looked really great. Although the rest of the film was stupidly bad. Bad writing, bad casting, and all around bad ideas. Yes, I liked the idea of bringing in Bane, but Bane needed his own film. Arnie was not needed for this role.
In fact I don't think it was trying to be like the 60's Batman at all, it was more of a comedy with the villains since they were portrayed as Joker knock offs.
A lot of this score (and by default the score to Batman Forever) is IDENTICAL to the same composer's score of Demolition Man.
I can still watch this movie but more often than not i skip it. Dont like the batmobile, hate the ice gadgets including the vehicles and hate the suits at the end.
although this is a reupload- i'm still gonna rewatch this retrospective :^)
"This isn't a movie!" "It's an incredibly impressive (stage play)!
This film, Steel with Shaquille O Neil and Spawn killed the Superhero genre for a while until Blade, X-Men and Sam Raimi's SpiderMan revived it. 1997 was a terrible year for Comic Book movies.
But spawn was a great movie
"(Alfred) is a butler, not an engineer and designer".
Yeah, no, he actually is. Comic Alfred really is capable of everything.
(yes, I know this is a re-upload, but bares mentioning)
Jonathan Campbell While that is true for Alfred in the comics, the problem here isn’t that Alfred is an engineer/designer, but that it comes out as very contrived.
This movie isn't good, but there are good things about it. Michael Gough's performance is great, as always, Arnie looks like he's really having fun there and the Bruce/Alfred talks were great and I was genuinely torn up when it looked like Alfred wasn't going to see the end credits. Plus, it's a good movie if you having a party and you and your friends want to get drunk and riff a stupid movie.
It’s entertaining in a non conventional way!
Arnold Schwarzenegger should have taken the role seriously instead of turning him into a joke.
I’m pretty sure he was only working with what the material they gave him. The writers wrote his lines knowing he was going to be in the role.
I don't know why he wasn't Bane
Anyone who complained about Jennifer Lawerence's performance in the last couple of X-Men films, need to be forced to watch Alicia Silverstone's scenes from this movie on a 90 minute loop. She LOOKED terrible, and her dialogue was terrible, and her performance was terrible.
She delivered all her lines through the side of her mouth as well, as if she'd had a stroke.
@@MrNegativecreep07 I totally noticed that. I was waiting for someone else to say it first. I found it weird that the studio approved her in the role, looking like that. All the women in Hollywood and you choose the woman to play Batgirl with the crooked mouth.
MADGUNS FOREVER™ it also affected Alicia Silverstone’s career as well as Chris O’Donnell and even hurt Arnold’s career for sometime as his movies after Eraser in 1996 he didn’t have the big hits like did in 1980s and early 90s
If this movie didn’t happen, Christopher Nolan’s Trilogy would never have happened.
How?
Copyright claim? They should have PAID you for taking the time to review this turd.