Another great video Hugo. I appreciate the way you capture and deliver the subtle differences of these wonderful cameras solving the "dilemma" into the solution of owning both of them. Congratulations.
Thanks for your nice video. No loud stupid music to distract from the message etc. I just bought a M8 with sub-1000 clicks of the shutter. I hope and guess it will be a nice combo with my old M2....
Great video, I really like your gentle and introspective delivery. I love my M8 as much as my M2, an excellent combination to carry in a Billingham. I have looked longingly at the M9, the only other M I could dream of affording, a choice made easier by my affection for the CCD filter. However my loyalty to the M8 could lead me to shoot it until it fails and then replace it with another M8. It is strange the pull of a camera with real limitations, maybe I like things to be a challenge. All the best on your Leica journey which I promise to follow, Charles.
Yes, the M8 has this charm, Leica nails it with the first shot. I was thinking to get other M8 but in the end, I decided to go for M9 to give my lenses another field of view. Enjoy your cameras and thanks for the support!
Charles,I like the idea that it's not always got to be a best gear. Rather something you enjoy using and that fits for your needs. To be honest I didn't have a chance to compare my m8 to other digital Ms, but if they are made equally great then sometime I might get myself some FF Leica, but now I enjoy every "date" (as I call going out shooting) with my trusty M8.
For me the M8 was an easy transition from using film Leicas, indeed I use screw lenses on my M8. Many think of a Leica as a rich person,s toy yet I hear real love for the more affordable M8 and M9. Perhaps we value them partly because we struggle to afford them, perhaps saving a long time before getting one. Hugo expresses this love well, I wish he would post more, good luck with your date, all the best, Charles.
@@davidescott-new1194 your point on their market price is very solid. Yes, it's overprice is the first argument in every Leica bashing. Thank God there are more then adequately priced M2 and M3 that I'd pick any day! To me they are just great designed devices that even age beautifully. I'm positive no M camera is outdated in 2019. Maybe except M5 and CL partly because of their odd metering. Best, Alex
Another great video Hugo, I also took the plunge and bought a M9 to go with my M8 and like you I still love using the M8 as a daily camera. As you said in the video there’s something about the colours you get from the M8 that’s missing from the M9 ( it’s hard to describe but there is a subtle difference ). It’s nice to have full frame with the M9 though to get the full benefit of the lenses especially wide angle like a 28mm my favourite focal length for street photography. Looking forward to your next video. Geoff
Thanks, Geoff, ...I didn't try jet the 28mm in the M9, is like glued to the M8. I found the 50mm and 90mm to shine more in the M9 than in the M8, the 35 goes well in bought, as 35 o 46mm, and the light 28 Elmarit in the M8 as a 35mm makes a very good combo. After reading your comment I'm curious to try it in the M8
Nice video Hugo! I've seen a few people that really love their M8 having a bit of a cold initial reaction to the M9, and I did find that surprising because I thought they were basically the same camera with a differently sized sensor. Now that you mentioned more vivid colors on the M9, I think I love the M8 even more, it's really unique and I totally agree with you on the "mechanical" feel this camera has (I even formatted my SD card to show only 36 pictures on the frame counter ; ).
@@myleicam8546 Hugo, one question about batteries. You mention the M8 having no issues with non-original batteries, could you tell me what brand did you use? thank you!
@@andreaint2787 When I bought the M9 it comes with tree batteries, I thought they were original because it says Leica on them but it seems they weren't. I had tree original batteries for my M8 and now I use this tree for bought cameras. In the M8 the batteries who came with the M9 works without a problem. Not the case with the M9. I don't have them with me now, sorry, when I came back home I check and send a photo.
Thanks Hugo, i love your explanations, and the nice pace of your videos. Using Fuji Xpro2 right now, with Zeiss Biogon 35mm, but i keep my eyes open for Leica.
What a charming, modest gentlemen who presented his insights with such under-stated panache. I am so relieved to learn the Leica M8 is far from obsolete.
Great video. I also liked the M8 slightly more than the M9, but both cameras are fantastic. I now have a M240...but the pictures from my M8 still look great in comparasion. Hope to see your thougts in a couple of months...
Hello! You’re one of the “reasons” I got me a Leica M8 last week…Some nice shots here! Yes, there is sth about those colours, the rendering;-) I got me a M8 last week, refurbished and modified by Leica from M8 to M8.2. I don’t know what it is, but this camera is already a “always in the bag”. So much joy to use. I bought her as a b/w camera in addition to my M240 and Nikon D3/Z7, as I like to use different cameras when using 35mm film … kind of weird maybe but it’s just me … always good light!👍🏼and thanks for the blog.🙋🏼♂️
Hello, and thanks for your comment. Im glad you find the blog interesting and I hope you enjoy your new M8 as I enjoy mine. Is a life companion. Its simplicity makes her unique. And probably you will be safe from shutter issue in the first M8. Not big deal but after many shots it can happen. Not in the M.2 case, I think. Good light my friend!
Thank you for your super comparison. I had an M8 for many years and loved it. I eventually sold it to buy an M9, which I also love. I actually felt that the M8 images suited my taste better - it had something to do with the colors and a sort of ‘softening’. But, I love my M9 very much!
The same happened to me. They are excellent cameras, and very similar. M8 produce warmer images and more vintage look, but M9 ones are also beautiful. Im glad you like the comparison, thanks!
Hola Hugo, gracias por compartir tus experiencias. En cuanto al tamaño de los sensores, y los resultados finales ( solo definición, grano y latitud de exposición), encuentras diferencias digamos en una impresión papel a 40x50 cm? Muchas gracias por tu opinion!
Hola Fabian, disculpa el retraso y muchas gracias por tu comentario. La verdad es que no hay a penas diferencias notables, el sensor de la M8, sin filtro, es extremadamente nítido. Si necesitas recortar, la M9 da más juego, pero no es una gran diferencia. Las imágenes de la M8 tienen tonos más cálidos, clásicos, de menos contraste. La M9 comparada con las cámaras modernas también, pero al lado de la m8 se nota un aspecto más moderno, con más contraste y tonos menos "clásicos"
The freezing that you experienced may have just been the camera buffering, which would explain why some images were lost when the battery was removed. This usually happens when shooting a digital camera in a burst or continuous shooting style.
In this particular case the camera really frozes, I mean, letting the camera in the bag and after five minutes continue to block and blinking. Normal buffering takes time, but sooner o later the camera works again. Thanks for your comment!
What you mentioned about Leica original battery and card for M9 is a deal breaker for me. But, since I am a film shooter, crop sensor of M8 is a hold. So, if I buy digital, it would be M10 if I can afford ofcourse, else long live Leica and film.
Hi, This is based on my experience, and even with the original battery and new card my M9 sometimes seems too slow. It happens only my camera? I don't know. But for me os Ok like this. Enjoy your film Leicas. They must be great cameras.
Personally, I feel the M9 can be the most popular used Leica CAM if not for its corroded CCD issue. I agree that the CCD sensor does produce a very film like image compared to CMOS. I love the JPEG output on my D1H and M8. I bought a M9M because I love the JPEG output on the M8. When I saw the DNG + JPEG files on my M9M, I am totally sold. The M9M will be staying with me and I am even willing to pay for the cost of a replacement sensor, if the sensor corrode in future.
Raymond Tay I can perfectly understand you, when you love your camera, you get this nice feeling. Congratulations for the m9m and enjoy it for a very long time.
I bought the M8 over the M9 due to the fact that you can shoot 1/8000 vs. 1/4000 which I think is a huge plus when shooting outdoors on low f-numbers. Great video, Hugo👍
Bastian Junker, I agree, not only the 1/8000, also the general shooting experience is a beat more “raw”. M9 is excellent, imagen quality, full frame... I don’t think you can go wrong with any of them. All the best and thanks for your comment!
A lot of people avoid using 1/8000 shutter speed on the M8. It apparently will wear out your shutter. I also read that this is why the M8.2 has a maximum shutter speed of 1/4000.
Hi Hugo! Thanks for your video. Try out a M8.2 if you have the chance. I love mine and will never ever sell it. I have a M2, M6, M240 and my IIIf. You will love it. I'm shure! Regards, Gerardo from 🇨🇭.
I hope I have the opportunity to try one soon. I don't know how much difference I gonna fell, but Im sure is a camera to love. You have a good collection of cameras, film and digital, congratulations!
Hi Gerardo, fellow swiss here. Trying to decide to get either an M8 or an M8.2. I shoot Fuji (X100T & X-Pro1) for the last 5 years. Got into Film recently with a Nikon FE. Very much enjoy it (did Photography in my late teens and early twenties, darkroom etc) so it was nice going back to ‚basics‘..but it is a lot of hassle and quite expensive also....so I don‘t shot much Film. The idea with a Leica came recently, well everybody liked to own a Leica someday. I like classic cameras with less functions and an ‚analog‘ feeling to it. So that is why I got the X-Pro1 last year. Enjoy it very much. Shoot Optical viewfinder a lot, in manual also. Just like the ‚retro‘ feeling. Less is more, more often then not. So I was thinking of treating myself to a Leica (big decision as the costs are hight, especially with three small kids...) might need to sell stuff 🥴. So Obv I am looking for a ‚cheap‘ way to try it out. Digital might be more conveniant, so the M8 is the obvious choice. Now 2 popped up just near me M8 in very good condition 3k shutter count for chf 1‘1k and another for 1’5k with waranty and only 1k shutter count, plus an M8.2 absolutely new for chf 1‘7k...uhhhh I havent done much research, so I don‘t rush. Trying to figure out what prices are ok what to look out for......stuff like that. You know it. Maybe you gave some input for me. Much appreciated! Cheers from around Zürich
@@michel559 Hi Michel, fellow 🇨🇭! 1700 für eine M8.2 ist billig! Habe in der Bucht schon für 4000 plus gesehen. Die M9 hatte Probleme mit Korrosion auf dem Sensor. Musst absolut sicher sein, dass er getauscht wurde! Die M8.2 ist die einzige Leica Digital mit einer Snapshot Funktion! Für korrekte Farbwiedergabe musst Du einen UV/IR Filter benutzen, es sei denn, du willst den Falschfarben-Effekt. Ist ein Objektiv bei der 8.2 dabei? Gruss aus der Region Bern!
@@62smarty hallo und danke für die Antwort! Nein keine linse dabei 😉. Ich bin ein wenig am gucken was so angeboten wird. Ich habe kei e Eile. Die Fuji X-Pro1 läuft nach wie vor prima 😎. Leica ist halt Leica und ich bevorzuge ältere, einfachere modelle und nicht due überladenden neuen Kameras. Bevor ich irgendwas kaufe, möchte ich sie ein wenig benutzen, vielleicht kann man im Leica store eine mieten für einen Tag oder so, wäre nicht das dümmste 😉. Wobei M8 oder M8.2 ist eigentlich egal. Ja das mit dem IR problem kenn ich und auch die Probleme mit der M9. Preislich kommt eh nur die M8 in frage. Ich hoffe, die dinger laufen noch 50 Jahre 🕶 Sicherer sind wahrscheinlich die Film kameras, aber ja, film ist so ne sache. Einfach umständlich....leider Gruss
I enjoy your videos and thanks from Atlanta! I have a Q and am thinking of buying an M8. Do you think I may actually see a difference between the sensors? I would appreciate your expertise. Sean
Hi Sean, I don´t have any experience with the Q, but they seam very different cameras to me, Q more modern, autofocus, 24mp... M8 is a 10mp +10 years old camera, a classic in the digital range.
Hola Hugo. Ante todo gracias por tus videos. Estoy sorprendido de que hayas decidido adquirir la Leica M9, hablamos hace unos meses sobre la Leica M8 y sus bondades a pesar de ser una cámara de 2006, pero al final has comprado una M9. ¿Cual fue el motivo de dar el paso? ¿ahora que tienes las dos, cual recomendarias? sigo pensando en adquirir una Leica digital, a pesar de estar contento con mi Leica M7, pero necesito también tener una digital. Gracias!!
Hola Jose, la razón de comprarme la M9 ha sido lo mucho que me gusta la M8 y por tener una segunda cámara. Una compra por una parte innecesaria, ya que la M8 es más que suficiente, pero de la que no me arrepiento porque es una buena cámara y con algunas lentes creo que aporta un pequeño "extra" Por contra es mas torpe, menos mecánica, al menos la mia. Si no te importa el sensor algo mas pequeño y el efecto que esto produce en el campo de vision de la lente comparado con tu M7, probaría una M8 por precio y caracter, si tú presupuesto es mayor entonces la M9 es una opcion buena por ser mas moderna, mira que tenga el sensor cambiado, porque tenian problemas de corrosión.
Now that you have had your M9 for a while, do you still prefer the M8 over the M9? Do you switch off regularly between both? I ask because I have an M9 and I have the opportunity to get an M8 that seems to be in excellent condition. I don't mind the crop factor because my other digital cameras are Fujis.
Hello William, I use the two cameras, they are very similar, but with small differences.In my opinion the M8 is more pleasant to use because it feels more mechanical. The color science is also different, warmer, more “film like” in the M8. If you have the opportunity to buy a M8 in good conditions for a good price, I recommend you to go for it.
@@myleicam8546 Thank You Hugo. Don't know how often you go to Instagram but I put in a request to follow you. I would like to see more of your photos. Would also like to see more videos. My favorite so far was you and your sister out with both Ms.
Hello Hugo, thank you for this comparative review of both the M8 & M9 camera's, regarding your freeze issues of the M9 I would suggest finding 16gb Sandisk Pro cards rated at 46 mbit as this gives the least freezing issues to my experience ( i had no freezing issues so far). Please check that you have the latest firmware installed on your camera. The M9 is very picky on what memory card you use. I speak from experience as I am using the M8, M9 & M10. I did not have any freezing issues using these cards on the M9. I like the M8 the most for street, because of the crop factor gives me some extra depth of field in street photography when zone focussing. A3+ prints with the M8 @160 ISO are great and arguably not visually better than with higher Mp camera's, I suppose due to the quality of the Leica glass. The M10 is much better at high ISO as I can get adequate results at ISO 6400 compared to ISO800-1250 on the M9. The b/w jpg in the M8 and M9 are one of the best you can find out of the camera. You can tweak the raw DNG files in ACR but I found it is fairly difficult to obtain a similar look in ACR/LR. I started (in digital) with the M240, bought a M9 (with new sensor) and got a very nice opportunity to purchase a M8 (with newer shutter), sold the M240 to fund the M10. I have the M10 with the M9 as backup, the M8 I use mostly for personal projects. When purchasing a M8 it is becoming fairly difficult to find Leica UV/IR cut filters as they apparently stopped production please take this into account when purchasing a M8. Leica can not fix the screen of the M8 due to lack of parts. They still service the camera for other malfunctions.
Hello Erik, thanks for your comment and for all the information you bring on it. The Scandisk Pro 16 is precisely the SD I bought for my M9 and as you say, it works, no problem since. B&W jpeg in M8 and M9 are beautiful, I always shoot in DNg+B&W jpeg, and very often stay with the jpeg, sometimes adding some light, whites, and that's all they need. ..Because the M8 was my first and only Leica M I have good UV/IR filters for my lenses, some of them pretty old, but very good ones.
Thanks, Phil for your comment. M9 is a great companion and back up camera for the M8, and in some circumstances and with some lenses seams more capable
Hi Hugo, just to let you know that I often return to your video collection when I need information about the Leica M8. It is like an archive, but alot better . . . with your thougts ! I was wondering: do you use an InfraRed/UV filter for Colour images (JPEG or DNG) ? I am also looking for an answer for my question : buying a second M8 or looking for his sister the M9 ? I know, it is a personal matter, but do not hesitate to give me a hint ! Greetings, Stay in Good Health, Roger :-)
Hi Roger, Im glad my videos are useful to you. Let me try to give you a hint ;-) First, M8 and M9 are very similar. If money is not a problem, M9 is a more modern camera, full frame, with excellent and powerful B&W JPEG. Is the only camera you may need. But be sure the sensor is free of corrosion. Leica changed the M9 sensors for free, bun now you need to pay, and is not cheap. The M8 is older, more mechanical feel, with more character and a unique color DNG´s, warm and beautiful. And old look low contrast B&W jpg´s. No problems with sensor in M8´s, but the shutter can be a weak point. My approach was like this: start with M8, fell in love, purchase a M9 thinking is gonna be much better and find out is not. Conclusion: With the two cameras you feel exactly the same pleasure. And the shooting experience is almost identical. I use IR/UV filter in the m8, but sometimes I like to try without. Is nor indispensable and in nature, with not black colors, the filter is unnecessary. All the best! Hugo
Hello, great video. I have never had a Leica before. I am just starting in photography, and am thinking of getting the M8. Like you said, it's cheaper than the M9. Would the M8 be good for a beginner, or should I go with something else. These Leica cameras look well built. The shutter sounds great too, it reminds me of when I close the door on my old Buick, very solid. Cheers, Rob.
Thanks Rob! The M8 is a perfect first step into Leica m digital cameras. Is the cheapset of all, and no other can match the colors and B&W it produces. In some way, the newer ones are more capable, but not more pleasant and rewarding to use. They are solid like bricks, but they can also fail, and die, as everyone ;-)
Hello Hugo! Before buying the m9, were you not worried that it was very risky? This camera is very tempting but it had so many problems with the sensor... - corrosion, - "purple curtain" - thin glass on the sensor, easy to break. I have the impression that the m9 is the most vulnerable copy of the M. This stops you from buying. PS: have you ever tried type 262?
Hi Maciej, yes, there is always a risk involve in the purchase of a old camera like this one. My experience was good, but is true that the camera feels a beat more delicate that for example, the M8. Look for one with the sensor replaced by Leica, this is important. Mine has no issues with it (the sensor was replaced before I bought it) Unfortunately I never tried the 262,but it seams a excellent option. All the best!
Hello Hugo. A quick question. In your opinion, would a Leica M8 be a good starting point, or would you go for the M8.2, or M9? I'm not sure what the difference would be. Cheers, Rob.
zambam3 Hello. The m8 shutter speed goes until 1/8000 of a second an the m8.2 until 1/4000. I think that’s the only difference between them. The black version m8 has a mat finish (I like it much more) and the m8.2 has a glossy black paint. M9 is full frame, 35mm sensor, m8’s are smaller, but they produce exceptional colours. I recommend you try first a M8 M8.2, they are cheaper and excellent at the same time.
@@myleicam8546 Hello Hugo, I just bought a Leica M8 for 1350 euros, with 1838 photos taken. I think it was a fair price. I am so excited! Thanks for getting back to me once again, it is appreciated. Now I must figure out what lens to get... Cheers, Rob.
Congratulations! only 1838? wau!! Enjoy it, is a treasure. I just bought also a silver M8 with 7500 shots and is like new. Im more exited that with the first one, that have now close to 40000. I attached a Voigtlander Nokton 35 and it looks beautiful. An is a so light and capable lens!
@@myleicam8546 I bought the camera from a guy in France. The price seemed fair with the low shutter count. I'm glad I took my time, and found a good deal. I just need a lens. I will do some more research. Cheers, Rob.
Ciao! Cool and informative Video 👍🏻 M8 might become my 1st leica! Few good offers here locally (Switzerland) well I think they are good 🥴. Do you think it is worth spending a bit more for a 8.2 version? I only shot Fuji sofar (X100T and X-Pro1). Let‘s see if I become a Leica shooter. I like older, trusted cameras over more modern ones packed with 10000 options, gadgets and functions....🥳 Cheers from Switzerland and sray safe!!!!
Thanks for your comment Michael. I perfectly understand you, the more simple a camera is , the better. And nothing beats a M8 in simplicity. I own 2 Leica’s M8, they are the 1st version, not the 8.2. The difference is in the shutter speed, 1/8000 in the M8 and 1/4000 in the M8.2. Probably for longevity reasons, because the shutter is the weakest point of the camera. If you like it, trust me, you don’t need nothing more 😉
@@myleicam8546 You are welcome Wait, if I understand this well the M8.2 upgrade has a slower shutter like in the M9? Then again both are quick enough really.
My Leica M8 I was just wondering because you seemed very happy with the M8 and even now you have the M9 you seem to prefer the M8. So it was not technical limitations of the M8 that made you buy an M9. I can totally understand you wanted to try out the M9 of course :)
Hello Edgar Wibeau, The reason for the M9 was the sensor size, give to all the lenses I use in the M8 a different, wider field of view, and also try this camara that has become a icon. ...And also because I wonted a backup camera in case something happened to my M8. ..but may be they are only excuses ;-)
@@myleicam8546 Hehe, i totally get it. Fortunately M9s with a new sensor are so expensive these days it would be very unwise to buy one. At least for me :)
I can understand the emotional attachment you have (or had, as I see this comes from 2019) for the M8, but I think the M9, just because the sensor is full frame, is a better camera. I pair my M9 P with an M10r, which objectively is also better, and have a similar impression, which is based on familiarity.
Thanks for the video Hugo, I like the old Leica film cameras, my father used to own one back in the day. It seems to me that today Leica M cameras are more about handling the camera and less about photography, I've seen it in many Leica YT videos, some photographers are even in love with their M camera. The CCD colors can be mimicked in post, it is not magic. The reason why I won't buy a Leica is because most M cameras have major issues, the M9 has the corrosive sensor which costs over $1000 to repair, and a used one with the repaired sensor is too expensive for what the camera outputs. The M8 suffers from banding, hot pixels, and the IR issue. Putting a IR filter in front of a Leica lens is ridiculous. The M10/M11 are definitely not worth the going price. It is unreal to me that a "luxury" camera manufacturer has below average quality control and then charges exorbitant prices for a hand assembled camera. That is very common with German technologies, the Leica, The classic Porsche 911, and other products, they all littered with major issues. Photography is about you and the subject, the camera is just a tool, like a paintbrush and canvas. If you can't create a beautiful photos with a point and shoot camera your Leica won't help you and you will end up taking photos of your kitchen sink, a few trees, and a sunset photos. The only reason to buy a Leica is the way the camera looks and how it makes you feel when taking a photo.
Hi Karim, I understand your point, and in some ways I think the same. For me the M8 was a discovery, a camera that bring mer back the pleasure of photography. No complications, good feelings, good images, and a reasonable price on that time. I bought it second hand when M8´s were the ugly duck from Leica m´s. M8 is all the camera I need, capable enough, brings me the pleasure of old school photography without the extra work that film requires. But if you are not sure, is better go for other options, there are many, and avoid the expensive problems a Leica can suffer. In mi case it was a great decision, but is a very personal choice.
Moonraker Deep, I don’t agree, they are closer that what I thought before getting the m9, and in some areas m8 is more pleasant to use. M9 have it one advantages of course. Thanks for comment!
I had my M8 for about a year and loved the body but hated everything inside, its cropped sensor, filters, non realistic colours, bad auto white balance , bad metering, slowness, non existent iso above 800, most of these things are fixed or perfected in m9, I really dont understand why people forgive all that to this camera
Moonraker Deep, the M9 is a more capable camera, I agree, but in my opinion the M8 has her character, and if you like it (I do), them you can really love it.
Congrats Hugo on your new M-9P. Great addition to your kit. Thanks for sharing. Looking forward to the next video.
Thanks to you!
Another great video Hugo. I appreciate the way you capture and deliver the subtle differences of these wonderful cameras solving the "dilemma" into the solution of owning both of them. Congratulations.
Thanks, Emil, your words are very welcome
Thanks for your nice video. No loud stupid music to distract from the message etc. I just bought a M8 with sub-1000 clicks of the shutter. I hope and guess it will be a nice combo with my old M2....
Congratulations for your new/old M8, Im sure you are gonna like it, perfect companion for all situations, and only with 1000 shutter releases!
Great video, I really like your gentle and introspective delivery. I love my M8 as much as my M2, an excellent combination to carry in a Billingham. I have looked longingly at the M9, the only other M I could dream of affording, a choice made easier by my affection for the CCD filter. However my loyalty to the M8 could lead me to shoot it until it fails and then replace it with another M8. It is strange the pull of a camera with real limitations, maybe I like things to be a challenge. All the best on your Leica journey which I promise to follow, Charles.
Yes, the M8 has this charm, Leica nails it with the first shot. I was thinking to get other M8 but in the end, I decided to go for M9 to give my lenses another field of view. Enjoy your cameras and thanks for the support!
Charles,I like the idea that it's not always got to be a best gear. Rather something you enjoy using and that fits for your needs. To be honest I didn't have a chance to compare my m8 to other digital Ms, but if they are made equally great then sometime I might get myself some FF Leica, but now I enjoy every "date" (as I call going out shooting) with my trusty M8.
For me the M8 was an easy transition from using film Leicas, indeed I use screw lenses on my M8. Many think of a Leica as a rich person,s toy yet I hear real love for the more affordable M8 and M9. Perhaps we value them partly because we struggle to afford them, perhaps saving a long time before getting one. Hugo expresses this love well, I wish he would post more, good luck with your date, all the best, Charles.
@@davidescott-new1194 your point on their market price is very solid. Yes, it's overprice is the first argument in every Leica bashing. Thank God there are more then adequately priced M2 and M3 that I'd pick any day! To me they are just great designed devices that even age beautifully. I'm positive no M camera is outdated in 2019. Maybe except M5 and CL partly because of their odd metering. Best, Alex
Thanks, Alex for your comment
Another great video Hugo, I also took the plunge and bought a M9 to go with my M8 and like you I still love using the M8 as a daily camera. As you said in the video there’s something about the colours you get from the M8 that’s missing from the M9 ( it’s hard to describe but there is a subtle difference ). It’s nice to have full frame with the M9 though to get the full benefit of the lenses especially wide angle like a 28mm my favourite focal length for street photography. Looking forward to your next video.
Geoff
Thanks, Geoff, ...I didn't try jet the 28mm in the M9, is like glued to the M8. I found the 50mm and 90mm to shine more in the M9 than in the M8, the 35 goes well in bought, as 35 o 46mm, and the light 28 Elmarit in the M8 as a 35mm makes a very good combo. After reading your comment I'm curious to try it in the M8
Nice video Hugo! I've seen a few people that really love their M8 having a bit of a cold initial reaction to the M9, and I did find that surprising because I thought they were basically the same camera with a differently sized sensor.
Now that you mentioned more vivid colors on the M9, I think I love the M8 even more, it's really unique and I totally agree with you on the "mechanical" feel this camera has (I even formatted my SD card to show only 36 pictures on the frame counter ; ).
Thanks Andrea! Bought are great cameras, but of course one M8 is enough, it have soul :-)
@@myleicam8546 Hugo, one question about batteries. You mention the M8 having no issues with non-original batteries, could you tell me what brand did you use? thank you!
@@andreaint2787 When I bought the M9 it comes with tree batteries, I thought they were original because it says Leica on them but it seems they weren't. I had tree original batteries for my M8 and now I use this tree for bought cameras. In the M8 the batteries who came with the M9 works without a problem. Not the case with the M9. I don't have them with me now, sorry, when I came back home I check and send a photo.
Great video!! I’m sold and purchasing my first M8. I’ll need to save to get the Summicron so a Voigtländer 28mm Ultron until then. Thanks!
Thanks! Enjoy your M8, I like it more every day
Thanks Hugo, i love your explanations, and the nice pace of your videos. Using Fuji Xpro2 right now, with Zeiss Biogon 35mm, but i keep my eyes open for Leica.
Thanks Chris. I'm glad you enjoy them. The FujiXpro looks fantastic, and the Biogon are exceptional, congratulations. I like my Sonnar 50mm a lot.
Hello Hugo, very intresting comparaison ! Nice pictures ! Thanks alot for sharing your thougts with us. Greetz, Roger.
Thanks Roger!
Interesting comparaison I really like your approach! I am sold to the M8 and M8.2. They are great B&W shutters.
Thanks Patrice Longchamps, I’m glad you like it. I love M8 too, is a excellent and simple digital camera
Great video - thank you for sharing - I think I may go for my first Leica, an M8.
Thanks! ..and good choice, M8 is an extraordinary camera
What a charming, modest gentlemen who presented his insights with such under-stated panache. I am so relieved to learn the Leica M8 is far from obsolete.
I love the jpeg black and white from the m8.
Me too, always shoot DNG and B&W jpeg
so does the m8 have the same issue of ccd corrosion that the m9 does?
is there a hack to use the M9 firmware on the M8? All I need is to use the button PROTECT as ISO
Great video. I also liked the M8 slightly more than the M9, but both cameras are fantastic. I now have a M240...but the pictures from my M8 still look great in comparasion. Hope to see your thougts in a couple of months...
Thanks, Per! Working on it ;-)
Hello! You’re one of the “reasons” I got me a Leica M8 last week…Some nice shots here! Yes, there is sth about those colours, the rendering;-) I got me a M8 last week, refurbished and modified by Leica from M8 to M8.2. I don’t know what it is, but this camera is already a “always in the bag”. So much joy to use. I bought her as a b/w camera in addition to my M240 and Nikon D3/Z7, as I like to use different cameras when using 35mm film … kind of weird maybe but it’s just me … always good light!👍🏼and thanks for the blog.🙋🏼♂️
Hello, and thanks for your comment. Im glad you find the blog interesting and I hope you enjoy your new M8 as I enjoy mine. Is a life companion. Its simplicity makes her unique. And probably you will be safe from shutter issue in the first M8. Not big deal but after many shots it can happen. Not in the M.2 case, I think. Good light my friend!
Thank you for your super comparison. I had an M8 for many years and loved it. I eventually sold it to buy an M9, which I also love. I actually felt that the M8 images suited my taste better - it had something to do with the colors and a sort of ‘softening’. But, I love my M9 very much!
The same happened to me. They are excellent cameras, and very similar. M8 produce warmer images and more vintage look, but M9 ones are also beautiful. Im glad you like the comparison, thanks!
Hola Hugo, gracias por compartir tus experiencias. En cuanto al tamaño de los sensores, y los resultados finales ( solo definición, grano y latitud de exposición), encuentras diferencias digamos en una impresión papel a 40x50 cm?
Muchas gracias por tu opinion!
Hola Fabian, disculpa el retraso y muchas gracias por tu comentario. La verdad es que no hay a penas diferencias notables, el sensor de la M8, sin filtro, es extremadamente nítido. Si necesitas recortar, la M9 da más juego, pero no es una gran diferencia.
Las imágenes de la M8 tienen tonos más cálidos, clásicos, de menos contraste. La M9 comparada con las cámaras modernas también, pero al lado de la m8 se nota un aspecto más moderno, con más contraste y tonos menos "clásicos"
Thanks for a great video!
Thank you André
Hi mate, will you also share the sd card you are claiming to be working fine with the M9?
The freezing that you experienced may have just been the camera buffering, which would explain why some images were lost when the battery was removed. This usually happens when shooting a digital camera in a burst or continuous shooting style.
In this particular case the camera really frozes, I mean, letting the camera in the bag and after five minutes continue to block and blinking. Normal buffering takes time, but sooner o later the camera works again. Thanks for your comment!
What you mentioned about Leica original battery and card for M9 is a deal breaker for me. But, since I am a film shooter, crop sensor of M8 is a hold. So, if I buy digital, it would be M10 if I can afford ofcourse, else long live Leica and film.
Hi, This is based on my experience, and even with the original battery and new card my M9 sometimes seems too slow. It happens only my camera? I don't know. But for me os Ok like this. Enjoy your film Leicas. They must be great cameras.
Personally, I feel the M9 can be the most popular used Leica CAM if not for its corroded CCD issue. I agree that the CCD sensor does produce a very film like image compared to CMOS. I love the JPEG output on my D1H and M8. I bought a M9M because I love the JPEG output on the M8. When I saw the DNG + JPEG files on my M9M, I am totally sold. The M9M will be staying with me and I am even willing to pay for the cost of a replacement sensor, if the sensor corrode in future.
Raymond Tay I can perfectly understand you, when you love your camera, you get this nice feeling. Congratulations for the m9m and enjoy it for a very long time.
hasthe sensor corroded?
I bought the M8 over the M9 due to the fact that you can shoot 1/8000 vs. 1/4000 which I think is a huge plus when shooting outdoors on low f-numbers. Great video, Hugo👍
Bastian Junker, I agree, not only the 1/8000, also the general shooting experience is a beat more “raw”. M9 is excellent, imagen quality, full frame... I don’t think you can go wrong with any of them. All the best and thanks for your comment!
A lot of people avoid using 1/8000 shutter speed on the M8. It apparently will wear out your shutter. I also read that this is why the M8.2 has a maximum shutter speed of 1/4000.
I love the sound of those shutters. I'll take one of each.
I agree, bought are nice. M8 a bit louder and metallic
Hi Hugo! Thanks for your video. Try out a M8.2 if you have the chance. I love mine and will never ever sell it. I have a M2, M6, M240 and my IIIf. You will love it. I'm shure! Regards, Gerardo from 🇨🇭.
I hope I have the opportunity to try one soon. I don't know how much difference I gonna fell, but Im sure is a camera to love. You have a good collection of cameras, film and digital, congratulations!
Hi Gerardo, fellow swiss here. Trying to decide to get either an M8 or an M8.2.
I shoot Fuji (X100T & X-Pro1) for the last 5 years. Got into Film recently with a Nikon FE. Very much enjoy it (did Photography in my late teens and early twenties, darkroom etc) so it was nice going back to ‚basics‘..but it is a lot of hassle and quite expensive also....so I don‘t shot much Film.
The idea with a Leica came recently, well everybody liked to own a Leica someday. I like classic cameras with less functions and an ‚analog‘ feeling to it. So that is why I got the X-Pro1 last year. Enjoy it very much. Shoot Optical viewfinder a lot, in manual also. Just like the ‚retro‘ feeling.
Less is more, more often then not. So I was thinking of treating myself to a Leica (big decision as the costs are hight, especially with three small kids...) might need to sell stuff 🥴.
So Obv I am looking for a ‚cheap‘ way to try it out. Digital might be more conveniant, so the M8 is the obvious choice. Now 2 popped up just near me M8 in very good condition 3k shutter count for chf 1‘1k and another for 1’5k with waranty and only 1k shutter count, plus an M8.2 absolutely new for chf 1‘7k...uhhhh
I havent done much research, so I don‘t rush. Trying to figure out what prices are ok what to look out for......stuff like that. You know it. Maybe you gave some input for me.
Much appreciated!
Cheers from around Zürich
@@michel559 Hi Michel, fellow 🇨🇭! 1700 für eine M8.2 ist billig! Habe in der Bucht schon für 4000 plus gesehen. Die M9 hatte Probleme mit Korrosion auf dem Sensor. Musst absolut sicher sein, dass er getauscht wurde! Die M8.2 ist die einzige Leica Digital mit einer Snapshot Funktion! Für korrekte Farbwiedergabe musst Du einen UV/IR Filter benutzen, es sei denn, du willst den Falschfarben-Effekt. Ist ein Objektiv bei der 8.2 dabei? Gruss aus der Region Bern!
@@62smarty hallo und danke für die Antwort! Nein keine linse dabei 😉. Ich bin ein wenig am gucken was so angeboten wird. Ich habe kei e Eile. Die Fuji X-Pro1 läuft nach wie vor prima 😎. Leica ist halt Leica und ich bevorzuge ältere, einfachere modelle und nicht due überladenden neuen Kameras.
Bevor ich irgendwas kaufe, möchte ich sie ein wenig benutzen, vielleicht kann man im Leica store eine mieten für einen Tag oder so, wäre nicht das dümmste 😉.
Wobei M8 oder M8.2 ist eigentlich egal.
Ja das mit dem IR problem kenn ich und auch die Probleme mit der M9. Preislich kommt eh nur die M8 in frage. Ich hoffe, die dinger laufen noch 50 Jahre 🕶
Sicherer sind wahrscheinlich die Film kameras, aber ja, film ist so ne sache. Einfach umständlich....leider
Gruss
I enjoy your videos and thanks from Atlanta! I have a Q and am thinking of buying an M8. Do you think I may actually see a difference between the sensors? I would appreciate your expertise.
Sean
Hi Sean, I don´t have any experience with the Q, but they seam very different cameras to me, Q more modern, autofocus, 24mp... M8 is a 10mp +10 years old camera, a classic in the digital range.
@@myleicam8546 Thank you! I happen to love Leica and i appreciate your time.
Hola Hugo. Ante todo gracias por tus videos. Estoy sorprendido de que hayas decidido adquirir la Leica M9, hablamos hace unos meses sobre la Leica M8 y sus bondades a pesar de ser una cámara de 2006, pero al final has comprado una M9. ¿Cual fue el motivo de dar el paso? ¿ahora que tienes las dos, cual recomendarias? sigo pensando en adquirir una Leica digital, a pesar de estar contento con mi Leica M7, pero necesito también tener una digital. Gracias!!
Hola Jose, la razón de comprarme la M9 ha sido lo mucho que me gusta la M8 y por tener una segunda cámara. Una compra por una parte innecesaria, ya que la M8 es más que suficiente, pero de la que no me arrepiento porque es una buena cámara y con algunas lentes creo que aporta un pequeño "extra" Por contra es mas torpe, menos mecánica, al menos la mia.
Si no te importa el sensor algo mas pequeño y el efecto que esto produce en el campo de vision de la lente comparado con tu M7, probaría una M8 por precio y caracter, si tú presupuesto es mayor entonces la M9 es una opcion buena por ser mas moderna, mira que tenga el sensor cambiado, porque tenian problemas de corrosión.
I found the buffer issues more common in the M8 but in my case I always use it RAW (dev mode enabled)
I think it depends on each camera, that's why I prefer to say "In this one"
The leica M-E has very slow upload even on jpeg only ..
Now that you have had your M9 for a while, do you still prefer the M8 over the M9? Do you switch off regularly between both? I ask because I have an M9 and I have the opportunity to get an M8 that seems to be in excellent condition. I don't mind the crop factor because my other digital cameras are Fujis.
Hello William, I use the two cameras, they are very similar, but with small differences.In my opinion the M8 is more pleasant to use because it feels more mechanical. The color science is also different, warmer, more “film like” in the M8. If you have the opportunity to buy a M8 in good conditions for a good price, I recommend you to go for it.
@@myleicam8546 Thank You Hugo. Don't know how often you go to Instagram but I put in a request to follow you. I would like to see more of your photos. Would also like to see more videos. My favorite so far was you and your sister out with both Ms.
Hello Hugo, thank you for this comparative review of both the M8 & M9 camera's, regarding your freeze issues of the M9 I would suggest finding 16gb Sandisk Pro cards rated at 46 mbit as this gives the least freezing issues to my experience ( i had no freezing issues so far). Please check that you have the latest firmware installed on your camera. The M9 is very picky on what memory card you use. I speak from experience as I am using the M8, M9 & M10. I did not have any freezing issues using these cards on the M9. I like the M8 the most for street, because of the crop factor gives me some extra depth of field in street photography when zone focussing. A3+ prints with the M8 @160 ISO are great and arguably not visually better than with higher Mp camera's, I suppose due to the quality of the Leica glass. The M10 is much better at high ISO as I can get adequate results at ISO 6400 compared to ISO800-1250 on the M9. The b/w jpg in the M8 and M9 are one of the best you can find out of the camera. You can tweak the raw DNG files in ACR but I found it is fairly difficult to obtain a similar look in ACR/LR. I started (in digital) with the M240, bought a M9 (with new sensor) and got a very nice opportunity to purchase a M8 (with newer shutter), sold the M240 to fund the M10. I have the M10 with the M9 as backup, the M8 I use mostly for personal projects. When purchasing a M8 it is becoming fairly difficult to find Leica UV/IR cut filters as they apparently stopped production please take this into account when purchasing a M8. Leica can not fix the screen of the M8 due to lack of parts. They still service the camera for other malfunctions.
Hello Erik, thanks for your comment and for all the information you bring on it. The Scandisk Pro 16 is precisely the SD I bought for my M9 and as you say, it works, no problem since.
B&W jpeg in M8 and M9 are beautiful, I always shoot in DNg+B&W jpeg, and very often stay with the jpeg, sometimes adding some light, whites, and that's all they need.
..Because the M8 was my first and only Leica M I have good UV/IR filters for my lenses, some of them pretty old, but very good ones.
You can get good ir filters from other brands like b+w for a reasonable price.
Thanks for this nice comparison video! How did you find a "mint" M9? Was the sensor corrosion issue fixed for your M9?
Thanks! I found it in eBay, in Germany, with new sensor. ...but not cheap.
I hope you make lots more videos now that you have two M’s!
@@myleicam8546 How much you paid for the M9 back then?
@@michaelc4917 Mp-9 mint around 2500€ second hand
Nice video covering the M8 and M9. I have an M8 and would most likely buy an M9 before an M240... and most likely the M9P just like you.
Thanks, Phil for your comment. M9 is a great companion and back up camera for the M8, and in some circumstances and with some lenses seams more capable
Hi Hugo, just to let you know that I often return to your video collection when I need information about the Leica M8. It is like an archive, but alot better . . . with your thougts ! I was wondering: do you use an InfraRed/UV filter for Colour images (JPEG or DNG) ? I am also looking for an answer for my question : buying a second M8 or looking for his sister the M9 ? I know, it is a personal matter, but do not hesitate to give me a hint ! Greetings, Stay in Good Health, Roger :-)
Hi Roger, Im glad my videos are useful to you. Let me try to give you a hint ;-) First, M8 and M9 are very similar. If money is not a problem, M9 is a more modern camera, full frame, with excellent and powerful B&W JPEG. Is the only camera you may need. But be sure the sensor is free of corrosion. Leica changed the M9 sensors for free, bun now you need to pay, and is not cheap.
The M8 is older, more mechanical feel, with more character and a unique color DNG´s, warm and beautiful. And old look low contrast B&W jpg´s. No problems with sensor in M8´s, but the shutter can be a weak point.
My approach was like this: start with M8, fell in love, purchase a M9 thinking is gonna be much better and find out is not.
Conclusion: With the two cameras you feel exactly the same pleasure. And the shooting experience is almost identical.
I use IR/UV filter in the m8, but sometimes I like to try without. Is nor indispensable and in nature, with not black colors, the filter is unnecessary.
All the best! Hugo
@@myleicam8546 Thanks alot for your answer ! Greetings, Roger ;-)
Hello, great video. I have never had a Leica before. I am just starting in photography, and am thinking of getting the M8. Like you said, it's cheaper than the M9. Would the M8 be good for a beginner, or should I go with something else. These Leica cameras look well built. The shutter sounds great too, it reminds me of when I close the door on my old Buick, very solid. Cheers, Rob.
Thanks Rob! The M8 is a perfect first step into Leica m digital cameras. Is the cheapset of all, and no other can match the colors and B&W it produces. In some way, the newer ones are more capable, but not more pleasant and rewarding to use. They are solid like bricks, but they can also fail, and die, as everyone ;-)
@@myleicam8546 Thanks for the response, much appreciated. Hopefully I can find one that's reasonably priced. Rob.
@@zambam3I hope yo find a good one Rob
Thanks Hugo..
Thanks to you Adam
Hello Hugo! Before buying the m9, were you not worried that it was very risky? This camera is very tempting but it had so many problems with the sensor... - corrosion, - "purple curtain" - thin glass on the sensor, easy to break. I have the impression that the m9 is the most vulnerable copy of the M. This stops you from buying. PS: have you ever tried type 262?
Hi Maciej, yes, there is always a risk involve in the purchase of a old camera like this one. My experience was good, but is true that the camera feels a beat more delicate that for example, the M8. Look for one with the sensor replaced by Leica, this is important. Mine has no issues with it (the sensor was replaced before I bought it) Unfortunately I never tried the 262,but it seams a excellent option. All the best!
Congrats on getting such a beautiful beast. I think you could get 240 if you sold m8. So shell you rename the channel now? 😃
Thanks! ..well, the name of the channel continues the same... the M8 was the inspiration for it ;-)
Hello Hugo. A quick question. In your opinion, would a Leica M8 be a good starting point, or would you go for the M8.2, or M9? I'm not sure what the difference would be. Cheers, Rob.
zambam3 Hello. The m8 shutter speed goes until 1/8000 of a second an the m8.2 until 1/4000. I think that’s the only difference between them. The black version m8 has a mat finish (I like it much more) and the m8.2 has a glossy black paint.
M9 is full frame, 35mm sensor, m8’s are smaller, but they produce exceptional colours. I recommend you try first a M8 M8.2, they are cheaper and excellent at the same time.
@@myleicam8546 Hello Hugo, I just bought a Leica M8 for 1350 euros, with 1838 photos taken. I think it was a fair price. I am so excited! Thanks for getting back to me once again, it is appreciated. Now I must figure out what lens to get... Cheers, Rob.
Congratulations! only 1838? wau!! Enjoy it, is a treasure. I just bought also a silver M8 with 7500 shots and is like new. Im more exited that with the first one, that have now close to 40000. I attached a Voigtlander Nokton 35 and it looks beautiful. An is a so light and capable lens!
@@myleicam8546 I bought the camera from a guy in France. The price seemed fair with the low shutter count. I'm glad I took my time, and found a good deal. I just need a lens. I will do some more research. Cheers, Rob.
@@zambam3 Voigtlander 35 nokton and Elmarit 28 goes well with the M8
Well done Hugo, I hope you enjoy your new M9-P. I also bought an M9 with a new sensor a month ago. Do you have a place where you post your images?
I hope you enjoy the camera as I do, I post on Instagram, hugandas
Bravoooo Hugo👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
Thank you Luis!!
When your M8 sensor shows signs of corrosion...M9 is better choice. At least you have more options.
Hi Jeff, for what I know, M8 sensors don't suffer corrosion problems. It only affects M9 sensors.
@@myleicam8546 Thank you for correcting me. That is very good news!
Ciao! Cool and informative Video 👍🏻
M8 might become my 1st leica! Few good offers here locally (Switzerland) well I think they are good 🥴. Do you think it is worth spending a bit more for a 8.2 version? I only shot Fuji sofar (X100T and X-Pro1). Let‘s see if I become a Leica shooter. I like older, trusted cameras over more modern ones packed with 10000 options, gadgets and functions....🥳
Cheers from Switzerland and sray safe!!!!
Thanks for your comment Michael. I perfectly understand you, the more simple a camera is , the better. And nothing beats a M8 in simplicity. I own 2 Leica’s M8, they are the 1st version, not the 8.2. The difference is in the shutter speed, 1/8000 in the M8 and 1/4000 in the M8.2. Probably for longevity reasons, because the shutter is the weakest point of the camera. If you like it, trust me, you don’t need nothing more 😉
On M8 I see red on surface of lens is it because of lens coating or are you using a filter?
Is a UV/IR filter. Not always use it, but sometimes is convenient.
Is that a M8 or M8.2? Am looking to buy my first Leica but can't fully decide yet.
Also thank you, your review helped a lot
Is the M8, in the M8.2 the shutter speed goes till 1/4000 in the M8 1/8000. Thanks for the support!
@@myleicam8546 You are welcome
Wait, if I understand this well the M8.2 upgrade has a slower shutter like in the M9? Then again both are quick enough really.
@@HibikiKano Yes, maybe because the shutter is the week point in the first M8 ;-)
@@myleicam8546 Good point :D thanks for the videos and will keep hunting for an M8 M8.2 or M9 depending on what I can get.
Geez what's a botton?
Bueno, me gusta,
Me alegro
Why did you get an M9? Just to try it?
To use it, to enjoy it and to learn.
My Leica M8 I was just wondering because you seemed very happy with the M8 and even now you have the M9 you seem to prefer the M8. So it was not technical limitations of the M8 that made you buy an M9. I can totally understand you wanted to try out the M9 of course :)
Hello Edgar Wibeau, The reason for the M9 was the sensor size, give to all the lenses I use in the M8 a different, wider field of view, and also try this camara that has become a icon. ...And also because I wonted a backup camera in case something happened to my M8. ..but may be they are only excuses ;-)
@@myleicam8546 Hehe, i totally get it. Fortunately M9s with a new sensor are so expensive these days it would be very unwise to buy one. At least for me :)
I can understand the emotional attachment you have (or had, as I see this comes from 2019) for the M8, but I think the M9, just because the sensor is full frame, is a better camera. I pair my M9 P with an M10r, which objectively is also better, and have a similar impression, which is based on familiarity.
Hi Irene, for some time the full frame in the m9 was a decisive factor. Now, few years later, this is not so important. I enjoy bought cameras a lot
Enjoy your new camera
Thanks!!
I don't see any grip lol
Thanks for the video Hugo, I like the old Leica film cameras, my father used to own one back in the day. It seems to me that today Leica M cameras are more about handling the camera and less about photography, I've seen it in many Leica YT videos, some photographers are even in love with their M camera. The CCD colors can be mimicked in post, it is not magic. The reason why I won't buy a Leica is because most M cameras have major issues, the M9 has the corrosive sensor which costs over $1000 to repair, and a used one with the repaired sensor is too expensive for what the camera outputs. The M8 suffers from banding, hot pixels, and the IR issue. Putting a IR filter in front of a Leica lens is ridiculous. The M10/M11 are definitely not worth the going price. It is unreal to me that a "luxury" camera manufacturer has below average quality control and then charges exorbitant prices for a hand assembled camera. That is very common with German technologies, the Leica, The classic Porsche 911, and other products, they all littered with major issues. Photography is about you and the subject, the camera is just a tool, like a paintbrush and canvas. If you can't create a beautiful photos with a point and shoot camera your Leica won't help you and you will end up taking photos of your kitchen sink, a few trees, and a sunset photos. The only reason to buy a Leica is the way the camera looks and how it makes you feel when taking a photo.
Hi Karim, I understand your point, and in some ways I think the same. For me the M8 was a discovery, a camera that bring mer back the pleasure of photography. No complications, good feelings, good images, and a reasonable price on that time. I bought it second hand when M8´s were the ugly duck from Leica m´s. M8 is all the camera I need, capable enough, brings me the pleasure of old school photography without the extra work that film requires. But if you are not sure, is better go for other options, there are many, and avoid the expensive problems a Leica can suffer. In mi case it was a great decision, but is a very personal choice.
I wouldn't even compare them, its like a beta version and a developed product
Moonraker Deep, I don’t agree, they are closer that what I thought before getting the m9, and in some areas m8 is more pleasant to use. M9 have it one advantages of course. Thanks for comment!
I had my M8 for about a year and loved the body but hated everything inside, its cropped sensor, filters, non realistic colours, bad auto white balance , bad metering, slowness, non existent iso above 800, most of these things are fixed or perfected in m9, I really dont understand why people forgive all that to this camera
Moonraker Deep, the M9 is a more capable camera, I agree, but in my opinion the M8 has her character, and if you like it (I do), them you can really love it.