You might want to clarify that you need an IR-Cut filter, not an IR filter, totally different things. Without it black tend to go a bit purple/burgundy and some greens get a rather yellowish tint to them. The M8 was my introduction to the digital M world, quickly followed by an M9 and an original Monochrom, both with replaced sensor glass.
totally agree with your statements. Regards shutter count try this out (Turn the camera on) 4x → (Press the right arrow key 4 times) 3x ← (Press the left arrow key 3 times) 1x → (Press the right arrow key 1 more time) (Press the „INFO“ button) (Scroll down to body debug data) (Press Set button) (Scroll down to NUMEXPOSURES) -> the number shows the actual shuttercount Turn camera off to exit Voila, it’s that easy 😊
Woah this is awesome! 3,750 total! And I’ve been at least 500 of them so far. WILD. This camera doesn’t have a scratch or scuff. Must have been a collectors.
I bought an M8, 17 years ago precisely because of the very film like images, especially in Black and White. Later I upgraded to an M9 Monochrom, followed by the Q2M (which I currently own and love). I sold my M9 Monochrom last year and recently picked up a used M8 in very good condition. So happy to have this camera back. It’s a pity that Kodak didn’t continue to develop their amazing CCD sensors. The M8 doesn’t disappoint, even 17 years later!
Nice video!! Love the m8, use to have one and I missed her. You can check how many shoots it has. After powering on the camera: 1) press the right button [inside the rear control dial] 4 times. 2) press the left button 3 times. 3) press the right button once more. 4) press info, you will then see a menu in small print. 5) scroll down (hitting bottom button) until you see Body Debug Data. 6) press set and scroll down until you see number of exposures (and the number taken). All the info you need it’s there, more details in the leica forum. Cheers front argentina!
@@davidherring I just did the same with mine 3,573! and I have mine for at least a year now. Mine looked and still looks pristine, too. Wish you a lot of fun with yours I'm still not 100% convinced it's the one for me. The pictures I get are not like I would want them to be.
The M8 is the only digital camera I ever used for years. I am 50 years a photographer. Dabbled with monochrome leica, SL leica, but didn’t keep them…. Used the Hasselblad X1D briefly. I loved my m8. Wonderful camera .
I love my Leica M8, even though the shutter is stuck and needs repair. I've used it since 2008 and always admired how it renders pictures, especially black and white shots. While considered the underdog of the M line, your video highlighted its punching power. The M8 may get hate, but its image quality won me over. Cant wait to see more of it on your channel
I also have an M8... and had a stuck shutter. I actually "fixed" mine by clicking the shutter release button while at the same time gently-ish banging the camera on to a semi hard surface like a stack of magazines. No guarantees it will work, but I had a repair quote from Leica that it would cost about $1000 USD to fix. Mine is now unstuck and has been working properly for months! Note: my M8 is not heavily used. I also purchased it very lightly used only about a year ago. Yes, it is a fantastic camera!
Hi Dave. I got a M8 when it first came out and used it for years. The color was great… as long as you don’t mind purple blacks. The IR blocking filter fixed that issue. But then I began shooting it with IR filters (deep red) and converted the files to B&W. Wow! So much easier than shooting IR film. Probably shot 10 k B&W images with the M8. But then I got a M9 and a M9 Monochrom. As we say in Hawaii: Mo bettah! Same great colors as the M8 but quieter and full frame. Glad you like the M8. Try shooting IR. You’ll never let that camera go.
Bro RUclips recommendations are insane, came across your channel less than 10 hours ago and finalizing a deal on m8! You hold power over is viewers. Love your work!
Great video!! I totally prefer the M8 color science over the M11. One mention, the M8 was the second digital M camera. To everyone's surprise, Epson (with help from Cosina) beat Leica to the punch by 2 years with the R-D1!!! Another absolutely amazing camera. 2004-2006 really was a special time for digital cameras.
I too have the M11 and have recently acquired an M8 which I LOVE! I’m using it far more than the M11 now and I also shoot 28mm with the IR cut filter. Great video to show those who don’t know how good that CCD sensor really is, who needs 60pmix 😆
Dude, you're absolutely right. M8 is much better! It's clear that the M8 matrix is configured in a special way! The colors are magical, yes, this is the sauce, but the reality that M11 shows is so poor!
I subscribed just because of you making a video on the M8. Loved the camera eversince, had multiples, but eventually always passed them on. Now I just acquired another one and hope I’ll keep it. It’s a bummer, that they don’t provide repairs for it anymore - perhaps because thwy know how good it is. Great video, looking forward to more! Probably with a focus on: „If we all being honest, isn’t the M8 enough?“
Purchased a very nice M8.2 as my first rangefinder coming from Fuji X100T last year. Love the engaging process even with the challenge of limited ISO and missing shots with two active kids. When it hits… it HITS. My request of a video on how to maximize night time/low light photography with the M8!!! Not everyone has fast lens and I like using my Konica Hexanon M 21-35 f/3.5 to much lol.
Thanks Dave, very tempted to go for the M8, as previously was mentioned you need a IR cut filter to make everything look norm but I have seen images taken with the M8 and a deep red IR filter they look wild like true infrared film. I used too shot Kodachrome Infrared film amazing colours. I have one roll tucked away for something special.
I have M8 and Q and let me tell that I find Q files more film like with fine grain at high iso and excellent standart BW jpegs sooc. I really wanted to see more film like appearance in M8 but I simply can’t. One thing though, in right conditions colors are so accurate and lovely that you just convert raw without any slider touched. RF is not for me, but I find Q to be the most amazing camera I ever had, love it to bits.
I've got an M8 Black Paint with beautiful brassing (look up the Mattias Burling video on the M8 here on YT - I own his camera now). It's the only camera I'll never, ever sell. And it's amazing how big you can blow up those 10mp files and still have great quality prints. I've done double page spreads in books of travel photos and they're as sharp as a tack. Enjoy the experience!
I,m 69 years old. Love your, Love for the Old Equipt. Honestly, the M8,out rite blows the m11 away. I’ve been a Pro shooter for 40+ years. YES, please post more M8 work, so i can excited to Buy one. My m10r and M10M are wonderful. B an W. The BEST.
I bought one it broke, then I bought another two! The M8 was one of the best introduction into the Leica system and I fell in love! This camera is incredible and I recommend it if you accept it's limitations. It's absolutely spectacular
Really great video. I think the colours of the M8 are awesome. It really does well considering the age. That said I feel (in my opinion) it doesn't render people are well as the M11 which is more natural and less contrast. Really does have a look and it's about the process and experience. There's a view I have that I feel older cameras with limitations or less valuable cameras allow us to have more fun and enjoy it more because it's different from what's currently out and therefore we see it in a different light. I'm like this with lenses, used to always want the sharpest and best but now exploring Leica's older lenses and having loads of fun.
I know nothing about Leica, but I know a lot about all DJI Pockets. Im using them since day one and they are so great. 4k60p perfectly stable in your pocket with almost natural colors. No phone can do that. Its an awesome device. Since the Pocket 3 I rarely take my DSLM with me. Thank you for this beautiful video.
I’ve had the M8.2 for years, as soon as the .2 came out. The M8s have no IR filter across the Kodak sensor by design for higher Rez. So uvir cut filter for the lens. One extremely cool thing is it does extremely great B&W native images and the other is get a real true deep red IR filter and in the spring time in particular it give incredibly lushish native IR photography. Works all year long but max chlorophyll in plants in the spring. Hurry up and get a true IR filter above 720 and you will be thanking me in your IR M8 video Lee
Well it was some bad design eh? I had the M8 and it is a fine camera but it was sent out for review wirthout IR filters as it appreared no one at leica had noticed the massive flaw and reviewers were shocked at the strange hue and strange effect on black. Many laughed at the fact that Leica hadn't seemed to notice until it was pointed out in the reviews. Then of course they retrosectively gave two IR filters with a new purchase of the camera. The Leica 'club' tend not to talk about it
Check your nr of clicks on the M8 After powering on the camera: press the right button [inside the rear control dial] 4 times. press the left button 3 times. press the right button once more. press info, you will then see a menu in small print. scroll down (hitting bottom button) until you see Body Debug Data.
Thanks for the comparison! Internet is really wild, I’ve been eyeing M8 for a few weeks and all of the sudden your work appears. Really love how the M8 boost on the warmer tone which I like a lot, it makes the characteristic really pops! I think the M8 will be a good pairing with my M10-D, and agreed on the point using 28mm on the M8 ones. Gosh, you really drag me onto a deeper rabbit hole 😂
Hey Dave, I wanted to let you know I featured you and a few others in my newest video. It's more or less just an unboxing of the Leica M8 and talking about how this video and a few others inspired me to pick up. Thanks for the inspiration!
Cool to see, I have the M8 and the M11 as well. I don't even use the IR filter on the M8, lol. It definitely has that CCD look. It's interesting to see the CMOS wider dynamic range files from the M11 as LR default. It would be interesting to see edited side by side with the M8, too. I see the M8 as my film camera for sunny days, lol. The shutter sound did get me a lot of comments over the years whether it was a film camera. It's also solidly built.
I was asked recently if it was a film camera from the shutter. It sounds like my Canon point and shoot, which auto advances the film. Very similar sound!
Dave welcome to the club brother, I've had my M8 for years and it has always been my go-to camera, that shutter sound I just love and the images are so wonderful. Comparing it to your M11 that's a tough one but...... that CCD sensor can produces amazing images. Great video, enjoy your M8 and thanks for sharing
The M8 has been on my radar for the past few months. I shot with a x100s and D200 majority of the time and love them. Wanted to go with a rangefinder camera and know Leica is the best for them. I don’t mind the M8 being 10mp since the D200 is the same. The colors that come out of the m8 remind in ways of the D200 which I like a lot.
HI Dave, a suggestion for a future video - I own an M9 with a CCD sensor my go-to lens is the Carl Zeiss 50mm F2 Planar. I have also used the M10R with this lens. Wide open with the subject around 4m away the out of focus rendering behind the subject is extremely different between the two cameras. The CCD sensor is, well, breathtaking compared to the CMOS. Try it out, it will blow you away! My feeling is that the CCD, being less clinical, produces a creamy and voluptuous rendering.
Hey Dave! Interesting video, almost makes me want to ditch my M11 for the 8! I was thinking, since your video shows the M11 looking quite a bit flatter than the M8.... Do you think that sensor technology and the general approach to RAW files has changed more towards a flatter file that's easier to manipulate? Sort of like log video? And maybe that's why the M11 looks that way? I'd be interested to see a comparison of the M8's raw/DNG and a JPG of the same image, to see how close they are. Thanks for the content!
For sure, I think the M11 files are much more editable. I really don't edit the M8 files. I may just adjust contrast or exposure, but that's about it. The M11, I can do anything I want.
M8 definitely has the Kodak look showing more saturated colors, beautiful. M11 is more clinically real and beautiful in its own way. Good video, thanks.
The M8 colors are amazing. I’m considering shooting a wedding on the M8 in New Zealand, if I can get hold of one. I’m just not sure about the practicality of it or how they handle low light what to expect with battery life. The ceremony bleeds into golden hour. I’m also a little concerned at how it’s 10 megapixels will affect me in post, considering it’s a wedding and not street photography. I’m not a very experienced photographer, but I tent to lean towards film cameras, so I’m looking for something that gives a similar look. If you have any videos addressing these in the M8, I’d love to see them. Thanks again for sharing your knowledge. I love your videos!
God I miss my Leica M9! Just missed out on a bargain M8 recently, and it’s defo on my radar as a replacement. Got the M9 with corrosion issues, only because I wasn’t sure if I just wanted or needed a Leica rangefinder. When I got it, I instantly fell in love with the whole system. Now it’s gone. I miss it so much. I don’t need masses on megapixels so the M8 will make a good compromise. Looking forward to your future videos.
The M8 is a great camera. I have one but I switched to an M9 because of the full frame sensor and better iso. But I need to dust off the M8 and have fun with it again.
Hammer..., die Aufnahmen der M8 haben deutlich mehr Charme als die der M11. Ich stand vor der Entscheidung zwischen einer M11 oder einer M10P und bin heute sehr froh das ich mich für die Letztere entschieden habe, zumal auch die Objektive für die M11 hätten angepasst werden müssen, da die älteren Summicrone für den neuen Sensor nicht mehr gut performt hätten. Aber dass die alte M8 solche Resultate raushaut, hätte ich nicht gedacht.
Interesting to see the color/saturation/contrast difference between the two cameras. One of these days I'd like to rent the M11 to compare it to my M9.
well, I was an early M8 adopter, first batch in NYC. It bricked after a day. Very inauspicious start. It was love hate all the way like that. No issues with BW, but the color- you can see the IR contamination in several of the shots, the 11 has a neutral black, the 8 is magenta, even with the filter. That would be fine, but wait till you get to skin tone indoors under tungsten- everyone looks like they have rosacea. It was so long ago but everything that people seem to be waxing lovely on were definite negatives when it launched, in fact Leica really took it on the chin with that camera, the UVIR filters they had to pay for, many bricked cameras, sensor faults like stuck pixels leaving vertical lines, anything wider than 25 and you start to see cyan corners which had to be profiled out and that never worked great, it goes on and on. You have to remember where they were coming from - the M6/7- that shutter was like a canon compared to the film M's- so much so they offered an "upgrade"- $1500 for the .2 shutter. Only the red dot has the nerve to call a fix an upgrade. I loved that camera, and I hated that camera. It ruined so many pictures, and it made so many pictures. Vowed never again. Did I mention I just got a Q2. Sigh.
I can't afford the M8, but I got my hands on an Olympus E-500 - with the 4/3 version of that Kodak sensor. The colors just pop. Three years ago I picked up an aging Kodak point and shoot digital camera (featured in the movie Mission Impossible 2) for next to nothing, that rarely works for more than 1 or 2 shots at a time before I have to reset it by removing the batteries. I have only used it a couple of times - always in the middle of summer because it seizes up in cold weather, but the way it renders yellows in particular is wonderful. The old sensors might not be as accurate as modern sensors, but Kodak got it right back then.
Leica is the ultimate goal for myself. Looking at thee pictures during the video the vibrance of the M8 colours are incredible. The M11 has rather muted colours . Would I be right in saying this ?
looks a bit like.... the m8 lets the shadows drown in delicious darkness but the fruit colours pop to give a nicer contrast ; the M11 seems to recover more details from the shadows but... at the cost of washing out the colour. This is why I like slide film; what do you want the emphasis on - the shadows or the subject in the light? it's a no brainer.I think contrastier pictures tell a story or convey an atmosphere better.
I think an interesting video would be street shooting comparison. From a handling perspective, I suspect the M11 gains some serious advantages when the scenes start to get dynamic and fast paced. But what about image quality? That's the thing about Leica.. you can generally dip back a few generations and get similar results and shooting style since their core goal is to maintain the heritage. I think a lot of shooters are after the street experience, so that might be a good video to show it's a Leica quality inherently and M bodies are just a spectrum of convenience and flexibility. Personally, I think this video really shows how well Leica has done with staying the course. The M11 is a BEAST.. but ultimately it's a stones throw from the M8 without losing the feel of Leica's experience. Super commendable this day and age.
Agreed! I don’t know if I will ever be comfortable taking both out in San Francisco, but I’m planning to take the M8 out today if it will stop raining! Watch for the video on Monday.
@@davidherring Awesome. SF colors are great with those old sensors. I had the D70 and D200 during my time there and SF just came alive on them. I'm headed to Gilroy (unfortunately!) In a few months and I'm definitely aiming to get some outer sunset down on my M240 sensor. Love these old cameras. Things weren't so "raw or bust" and they really played with getting lovely results in camera. It worked!
Unfortunately when I moved a few years ago my wife made me toss all my old Leica sales brochures. It still blows my mind that Kodak had this technology and its upper management didn’t know what to do with it. The CCD sensor generation will be looked back on as the Kodachrome era of digital. The first digital marketing info Leica put out was on the S1, after that Digi-Lux, all before the ‘M’. There was lots of blowback from traditionalist when the M8 came out. I love the old CCD colors but some times they could be on the over ripened side. What’s missing now is the Leica development program that once was pre Lightroom. Slowly we’ll get back there, I think it’s going to take Leica adding a module into their Foto’s program to fully harvest the camera sensors full potential. Great content Dave, your challenge now is to stay objective and not fall in love with the romance of the M8. Kodak built an empire off of Kodachrome but that doesn’t mean we should go back there. It’s a look and one I happen to love but when I take product shots I’d rather have my M11-P. Thanks to people like you and others, photography is experiencing a new renaissance.
Thanks for the comment. The M11 cannot be replaced for my work and serious photography, but the M8 is a nice and fun camera as well. I have several cameras but none has as beautiful of rendering as this M8.
This camera has been haunting me for years. Just can’t justify the admission price at my skill level. One of the reasons I think it’d be perfect for me is the lens choices, would be great to see various LTM lenses shot on the M8 like Jupiter, Avenon wide, Canon and of course Zeiss lenses. There are good vintage glass finds out there, and in my mind would really make a M8 kit super interesting.
Yeah, I got myself an M8 last year, Dave, taken some nice images with it also, its great!. I'm looking to pick up a nice condithion M 240, but I'll definetly hang on to the M8
That M8 DNG color is quite nice straight out of camera 💯 makes the M11 look wayyy flat when you compare them. But the magic is in the dynamic range on that m11 sensor 🎯
Your video convinced me to reconsider an M8 again. How much maintenance do you think it'll need considering it's an older camera? That's the only hold out I have about it but I really would like a digital M that can produce those Kodachrome colors SOOC.
Great video about the M8 Dave! I have my M9 for about a year now and recently shoot even more with it. I specifically love the b/w conversion out of these old sensors. Mine has also the corrosion issue, but shooting wide open around F4 you can’t anything and it was under 1000$ 😊
Well I’d say the M8 won hands down. Much fuller saturated colours; as u say, very filmic. But not being full frame and only 10mps I wonder how well and what size it comfortably prints ? (Also Prhps the filter helped to give it more colour ? ). Nice video n pics, Thks !
Gorgeous colors on the M8. I also wonder how b&w would look without the IR filter. B&W Infared photography. If it turns out interesting I'd love to see a vid about that.
I have an M8 and the rendering, micro contrast & overall tonality in B&W jpeg, without the UV/IR cut filter, is quite amazing. Really cool look with a vintage lens. Would make a good video.
B&W with the M8 is amazing. True it takes a while for the jpegs but it's a slow camera anyway just like shooting film- makes the whole process more deliberate.
I sold my M8 (shot with a 35mm 2.5 Voigtländer color scopar) one year ago and regreted it ever since. The pictures from the M8 have such a organic look and feel, unmatched...
Thank you! The M8 looks so much more brilliant in color. I am on the fence about getting the M8 but this def helps! Where is the best place to find one? Also, what kind of lense would you recommend?
I got mine at MPB! geni.us/leicam8 For lenses, I'd go 28mm so it's a 35mm on the M8 sensor. Check out lenses by Voigtlander if you want to save some cash, or a 28mm Leica Elmarit or Summicron if you want to retain value.
Still use my M8 for color. My main cam is the M11M. Taking the two of them on a shoot is almost like carrying two m6 bodies, one loaded with Kodachrome 64, the other with Kodak Technical Pan. Unfortunately, back in the film days, I only had one M6 and always shot B/W with it.
I have the M8 ….. the only other digital M I’m interested in is an M8.2 ….. it satisfies my needs as a film photographer at heart. The crappy ISO performance just means that I only shoot it up to 640 …. which is fine for me. I don’t fool too much with jpegs because of how awesome the unedited .dng files are. I would love to see you test high contrast black and white jpegs vs Tri X pushed one stop.
As a D50 fan, I’d love to see a comparison between the M8 and a D50. Leica vs Leica doesn’t tell me much, as I don’t own one. But I do have a D50. Maybe a thought for next time?
The M8 and M9 always had the best colours in my opinion, I miss my M9 :( I think the M10 and M11 are great but man.. there's something about that CCD goodness. Btw have you try matching your M11 colour to match your M8? I tried to do the same with my M11 but.. I don't think I got it right. Thanks anyway this video was great! Cheers!
Great video and love the comparison. Personally I would have more fun with the M8 because I love shooting film for the charachter it has. The M8 realy delivers a closer look to the film look and the way it handles color, shadows, and highlights. I would love to see how it handles skin tones in some portrait shots in your futue videos.
Dave, you gave me that final nudge... Thanks a lot, SMH! It's on its way from Japan now. Let me know if you want to collaborate. I'm in flat as* Florida and I'm not exactly a great photographer but I'm down anyway lol.
First off, wow. The M8 files look infinitely better than the M11 SOOC. That is wild. There is so much life and character to the photographs that the M11 just lacks. Am I feeling a Kodachrome VGP coming soon????
The files are amazing on a sunny day, but the newer Leicas Ms trump it in most other light conditions. I have owned M8's for 15 years now but now shoot mainly with a M10. You can also come close to the M8 files look by increasing contrast and some color channels(red and blue), so overall I am not sure that the M8 colors are enough to offset the risk of critical failures (especially the shutter, avoid shooting too much at 1/8000 by the way) and loud shutter (not ideal for street photography).
3 Months Later... Are you still using your M8, or has the novelty worn off? I am asking because I use an M10 w/ a 35mm Summ for walk around and a landscape project. My Leica is my "other camera," as I use Nikon Z for 90% of my nature photography work. With that said, I really enjoy using my M's and value the unique shooting experience that reminds me of my many decades with film and even 645 gear. I am considering the addition of a 2nd body, but don't want to spend $3500+ again. The M8 seems like the perfect Kodachrom / TriX replacement, but I'm not sure if I'm just infatuated with the novelty of the old sensor. So it is with this question in mind... you're now using an M11, do you still feel the desire to shoot the M8 with all of its limitations?... regards, bruce
Good question! I own verygoodpresets.com & bought the M8 to bring these legendary colors to modern sensors. After many field tests to create images for development, I sold the M8 back out.
@@davidherring I owned an M8 in 2011 and enjoyed it, and was feeling a bit nostalgic about the body. With that said, I'm not excited about adding a 4th battery type and charger into the mix... with a Z9, Z8, and M10 I'm using 3 batteries and 3 different chargers... a real hassel when on the road. Thanks for sharing your journey w the camera.
Colors on M8 are rich. You especially see this with the orange colors. I’m curious to know how both cameras feel in terms of handling, not in terms of controls as there would be a difference in controls, but in feel.
You might want to clarify that you need an IR-Cut filter, not an IR filter, totally different things. Without it black tend to go a bit purple/burgundy and some greens get a rather yellowish tint to them. The M8 was my introduction to the digital M world, quickly followed by an M9 and an original Monochrom, both with replaced sensor glass.
Thanks for the feedback.
totally agree with your statements. Regards shutter count try this out
(Turn the camera on)
4x → (Press the right arrow key 4 times)
3x ← (Press the left arrow key 3 times)
1x → (Press the right arrow key 1 more time)
(Press the „INFO“ button)
(Scroll down to body debug data)
(Press Set button)
(Scroll down to NUMEXPOSURES)
-> the number shows the actual shuttercount
Turn camera off to exit
Voila, it’s that easy 😊
Woah this is awesome! 3,750 total! And I’ve been at least 500 of them so far. WILD. This camera doesn’t have a scratch or scuff. Must have been a collectors.
@@davidherring That's brand new! My 8.2 chrome has just under 2,000. I use the M-E for everyday and M8.2 for the unique opportunities.
You already know how excited I am about your discovery of the M8 so all the yes to this
Haha absolutely! It's really incredible.
I bought an M8, 17 years ago precisely because of the very film like images, especially in Black and White. Later I upgraded to an M9 Monochrom, followed by the Q2M (which I currently own and love). I sold my M9 Monochrom last year and recently picked up a used M8 in very good condition. So happy to have this camera back. It’s a pity that Kodak didn’t continue to develop their amazing CCD sensors. The M8 doesn’t disappoint, even 17 years later!
That's awesome! Thanks for sharing!
you prefer the M8 b&W conversion than the M9M ?
Never used the M9M
Nice video!! Love the m8, use to have one and I missed her. You can check how many shoots it has.
After powering on the camera:
1) press the right button [inside the rear control dial] 4 times.
2) press the left button 3 times.
3) press the right button once more.
4) press info, you will then see a menu in small print.
5) scroll down (hitting bottom button) until you see Body Debug Data.
6) press set and scroll down until you see number of exposures (and the number taken).
All the info you need it’s there, more details in the leica forum.
Cheers front argentina!
3,750! CRAZY how low it is! Explains why this camera looks brand new. Thanks for the tip.
@@davidherring I just did the same with mine 3,573! and I have mine for at least a year now. Mine looked and still looks pristine, too. Wish you a lot of fun with yours I'm still not 100% convinced it's the one for me. The pictures I get are not like I would want them to be.
The M8 is the only digital camera I ever used for years. I am 50 years a photographer. Dabbled with monochrome leica, SL leica, but didn’t keep them…. Used the Hasselblad X1D briefly.
I loved my m8. Wonderful camera .
It's so good. Going to have to justify the M11 in my hands haha.
I love my Leica M8, even though the shutter is stuck and needs repair. I've used it since 2008 and always admired how it renders pictures, especially black and white shots. While considered the underdog of the M line, your video highlighted its punching power. The M8 may get hate, but its image quality won me over. Cant wait to see more of it on your channel
Amazing. Get that shutter fixed!
I also have an M8... and had a stuck shutter. I actually "fixed" mine by clicking the shutter release button while at the same time gently-ish banging the camera on to a semi hard surface like a stack of magazines. No guarantees it will work, but I had a repair quote from Leica that it would cost about $1000 USD to fix. Mine is now unstuck and has been working properly for months! Note: my M8 is not heavily used. I also purchased it very lightly used only about a year ago. Yes, it is a fantastic camera!
Bro, the M8 Colors have blown me away! Lovely
Right? I'm still recovering.
But the colors of the Nikon D50 are also great! And the 6 megapixel are more than enough for social even today
@@WorldinFastForward Yes, that's true, too. Absolutely beautiful colors. I had a D60 and I'm worried about I gave it away. It had a scorching 10MP.
My immediate impression was that the colors were way oversaturated. I preferred the more muted M11 colors.
Thanks you gave me the envy to grab my old M8 again. That camera does stunning b&w. Upsizing the dng to a 6000 x 4000 is surreal and quite surprising.
Awesome. Enjoy!
82-year-old love my M8. Gave my daughter one.
Hi Dave. I got a M8 when it first came out and used it for years. The color was great… as long as you don’t mind purple blacks. The IR blocking filter fixed that issue. But then I began shooting it with IR filters (deep red) and converted the files to B&W. Wow! So much easier than shooting IR film. Probably shot 10 k B&W images with the M8. But then I got a M9 and a M9 Monochrom. As we say in Hawaii: Mo bettah! Same great colors as the M8 but quieter and full frame.
Glad you like the M8. Try shooting IR. You’ll never let that camera go.
I've been shooting bw IR and wow, it is pretty awesome! Thanks for sharing.
Bro RUclips recommendations are insane, came across your channel less than 10 hours ago and finalizing a deal on m8! You hold power over is viewers. Love your work!
Haha amazing. You’re going to love it!
1. That M8 SOOC is beautiful!
2. Welcome to the DJI club! I love mine. It’s what I have used on all of my videos except for one.
Thanks bro! I changed a bunch of settings already. I think I have it more dialed in. Got a shoot a this weekend and I'm taking it with me.
Great video!! I totally prefer the M8 color science over the M11.
One mention, the M8 was the second digital M camera. To everyone's surprise, Epson (with help from Cosina) beat Leica to the punch by 2 years with the R-D1!!! Another absolutely amazing camera. 2004-2006 really was a special time for digital cameras.
Thanks for sharing!
I too have the M11 and have recently acquired an M8 which I LOVE! I’m using it far more than the M11 now and I also shoot 28mm with the IR cut filter. Great video to show those who don’t know how good that CCD sensor really is, who needs 60pmix 😆
Thanks for sharing!
Dude, you're absolutely right. M8 is much better! It's clear that the M8 matrix is configured in a special way! The colors are magical, yes, this is the sauce, but the reality that M11 shows is so poor!
Thanks! M8 files are just beautiful.
Dave, I had an M8 and an M8.2 when they came out… it was like wow, a digital M to complement my old m6….BUT for me, it was the M9 that won my heart.
Thanks for sharing. I know everyone loves the M9 too.
I kept my M8, M9 and MM for this very reason. Thanks for the reminder! :)
That's awesome!
I own M8.2 and the colors are so lovely and film like! The comparison between the two is amazing! Thanks Dave!
Thanks for sharing!
I sold my M8; regretted it!
I have a Q and a Q2 now
Also I think I just brought another M8, totally mint
So I'm with you 100% on this journey
Nice! Congrats!
I subscribed just because of you making a video on the M8. Loved the camera eversince, had multiples, but eventually always passed them on. Now I just acquired another one and hope I’ll keep it. It’s a bummer, that they don’t provide repairs for it anymore - perhaps because thwy know how good it is. Great video, looking forward to more! Probably with a focus on: „If we all being honest, isn’t the M8 enough?“
Thanks! I've got another M8 video coming soon.
Purchased a very nice M8.2 as my first rangefinder coming from Fuji X100T last year. Love the engaging process even with the challenge of limited ISO and missing shots with two active kids. When it hits… it HITS. My request of a video on how to maximize night time/low light photography with the M8!!! Not everyone has fast lens and I like using my Konica Hexanon M 21-35 f/3.5 to much lol.
That would be a tough video given the ISO limitations of this camera but I'm down to try it!
Thanks Dave, very tempted to go for the M8, as previously was mentioned you need a IR cut filter to make everything look norm but I have seen images taken with the M8 and a deep red IR filter they look wild like true infrared film. I used too shot Kodachrome Infrared film amazing colours. I have one roll tucked away for something special.
Thanks for sharing! I used the IR cut 90% of the time. Just looked better to me.
I have M8 and Q and let me tell that I find Q files more film like with fine grain at high iso and excellent standart BW jpegs sooc. I really wanted to see more film like appearance in M8 but I simply can’t. One thing though, in right conditions colors are so accurate and lovely that you just convert raw without any slider touched. RF is not for me, but I find Q to be the most amazing camera I ever had, love it to bits.
Nice! The Q is a fantastic camera.
I've got an M8 Black Paint with beautiful brassing (look up the Mattias Burling video on the M8 here on YT - I own his camera now). It's the only camera I'll never, ever sell. And it's amazing how big you can blow up those 10mp files and still have great quality prints. I've done double page spreads in books of travel photos and they're as sharp as a tack. Enjoy the experience!
I’m planning a video with my local print shop to see how far we can push the M8 prints!
I,m 69 years old. Love your, Love for the Old Equipt. Honestly, the M8,out rite blows the m11 away. I’ve been a Pro shooter for 40+ years. YES, please post more M8 work, so i can excited to Buy one. My m10r and M10M are wonderful. B an W. The BEST.
Thank you for sharing!
I bought one it broke, then I bought another two! The M8 was one of the best introduction into the Leica system and I fell in love! This camera is incredible and I recommend it if you accept it's limitations. It's absolutely spectacular
Wow you're set then! Agreed, it's spectacular!
Really loving how the colors pop on the m8
They’re stunning!
been thinking of getting a Leica to add to the collection for a minute and never really EVEN thought of the M8!!! instant sub . got stuff, sir .
Thanks man! You won’t regret getting into Leica. Best part is, they hold their value if you buy used cameras and lenses.
Man, been using the M8 for two years now, it's such a very visceral and analogically experience using it!
I’m loving it!
Really great video. I think the colours of the M8 are awesome. It really does well considering the age. That said I feel (in my opinion) it doesn't render people are well as the M11 which is more natural and less contrast. Really does have a look and it's about the process and experience. There's a view I have that I feel older cameras with limitations or less valuable cameras allow us to have more fun and enjoy it more because it's different from what's currently out and therefore we see it in a different light. I'm like this with lenses, used to always want the sharpest and best but now exploring Leica's older lenses and having loads of fun.
I'm finding people to have that classic red-tone found in Kodak Kodachrome and Vision.
I know nothing about Leica, but I know a lot about all DJI Pockets. Im using them since day one and they are so great. 4k60p perfectly stable in your pocket with almost natural colors. No phone can do that. Its an awesome device. Since the Pocket 3 I rarely take my DSLM with me.
Thank you for this beautiful video.
Thanks for sharing! I've got settings dialed in better now than I did when I filmed this.
The color science on the M8 is so AMAZING & BEAUTIFUL. I've tried to match a profile for my M11 to that of M8; it's hard to get a perfect match.
Yeah for sure!
I’ve had the M8.2 for years, as soon as the .2 came out. The M8s have no IR filter across the Kodak sensor by design for higher Rez.
So uvir cut filter for the lens.
One extremely cool thing is it does extremely great B&W native images and the other is get a real true deep red IR filter and in the spring time in particular it give incredibly lushish native IR photography.
Works all year long but max chlorophyll in plants in the spring.
Hurry up and get a true IR filter above 720 and you will be thanking me in your IR M8 video
Lee
Thanks for sharing!
Well it was some bad design eh? I had the M8 and it is a fine camera but it was sent out for review wirthout IR filters as it appreared no one at leica had noticed the massive flaw and reviewers were shocked at the strange hue and strange effect on black. Many laughed at the fact that Leica hadn't seemed to notice until it was pointed out in the reviews. Then of course they retrosectively gave two IR filters with a new purchase of the camera. The Leica 'club' tend not to talk about it
I had one. AMAZING shots. Super fun to operate
Really is!
woah the reds and oranges really take on the Kodachrome aesthetic from the Leica M8. Great shots out of the box!!
I think so too!
Check your nr of clicks on the M8
After powering on the camera:
press the right button [inside the rear control dial] 4 times.
press the left button 3 times.
press the right button once more.
press info, you will then see a menu in small print.
scroll down (hitting bottom button) until you see Body Debug Data.
Thanks!
Thanks for the comparison! Internet is really wild, I’ve been eyeing M8 for a few weeks and all of the sudden your work appears. Really love how the M8 boost on the warmer tone which I like a lot, it makes the characteristic really pops! I think the M8 will be a good pairing with my M10-D, and agreed on the point using 28mm on the M8 ones.
Gosh, you really drag me onto a deeper rabbit hole 😂
Ha thanks. The M8 is really a beautiful camera. I don’t even edit the photos out of it!
... and I almost gave my M8 away. Thank you for this video!
Good thing you didn’t!
Hey Dave, I wanted to let you know I featured you and a few others in my newest video. It's more or less just an unboxing of the Leica M8 and talking about how this video and a few others inspired me to pick up. Thanks for the inspiration!
Thanks for the shoutout!
@@davidherring You got it! Keep up the great work.
Cool to see, I have the M8 and the M11 as well. I don't even use the IR filter on the M8, lol. It definitely has that CCD look. It's interesting to see the CMOS wider dynamic range files from the M11 as LR default. It would be interesting to see edited side by side with the M8, too. I see the M8 as my film camera for sunny days, lol. The shutter sound did get me a lot of comments over the years whether it was a film camera. It's also solidly built.
I was asked recently if it was a film camera from the shutter. It sounds like my Canon point and shoot, which auto advances the film. Very similar sound!
Dave welcome to the club brother, I've had my M8 for years and it has always been my go-to camera, that shutter sound I just love and the images are so wonderful. Comparing it to your M11 that's a tough one but...... that CCD sensor can produces amazing images. Great video, enjoy your M8 and thanks for sharing
Thank you! Excited to be in the M8 club.
Try the M8 Black and White without the IR filter.. Its amazing.....
Yes!
The M8 has been on my radar for the past few months. I shot with a x100s and D200 majority of the time and love them. Wanted to go with a rangefinder camera and know Leica is the best for them. I don’t mind the M8 being 10mp since the D200 is the same. The colors that come out of the m8 remind in ways of the D200 which I like a lot.
Yeah you can’t beat the colors.
HI Dave, a suggestion for a future video - I own an M9 with a CCD sensor my go-to lens is the Carl Zeiss 50mm F2 Planar. I have also used the M10R with this lens. Wide open with the subject around 4m away the out of focus rendering behind the subject is extremely different between the two cameras. The CCD sensor is, well, breathtaking compared to the CMOS. Try it out, it will blow you away! My feeling is that the CCD, being less clinical, produces a creamy and voluptuous rendering.
Thanks for the suggestion!
Hey Dave!
Interesting video, almost makes me want to ditch my M11 for the 8!
I was thinking, since your video shows the M11 looking quite a bit flatter than the M8.... Do you think that sensor technology and the general approach to RAW files has changed more towards a flatter file that's easier to manipulate? Sort of like log video? And maybe that's why the M11 looks that way?
I'd be interested to see a comparison of the M8's raw/DNG and a JPG of the same image, to see how close they are.
Thanks for the content!
For sure, I think the M11 files are much more editable. I really don't edit the M8 files. I may just adjust contrast or exposure, but that's about it. The M11, I can do anything I want.
M8 definitely has the Kodak look showing more saturated colors, beautiful. M11 is more clinically real and beautiful in its own way. Good video, thanks.
For sure. Thanks!
The M8 colors are amazing. I’m considering shooting a wedding on the M8 in New Zealand, if I can get hold of one. I’m just not sure about the practicality of it or how they handle low light what to expect with battery life. The ceremony bleeds into golden hour. I’m also a little concerned at how it’s 10 megapixels will affect me in post, considering it’s a wedding and not street photography. I’m not a very experienced photographer, but I tent to lean towards film cameras, so I’m looking for something that gives a similar look. If you have any videos addressing these in the M8, I’d love to see them. Thanks again for sharing your knowledge. I love your videos!
I'll work on something about the resolution for sure!
God I miss my Leica M9! Just missed out on a bargain M8 recently, and it’s defo on my radar as a replacement. Got the M9 with corrosion issues, only because I wasn’t sure if I just wanted or needed a Leica rangefinder. When I got it, I instantly fell in love with the whole system. Now it’s gone. I miss it so much. I don’t need masses on megapixels so the M8 will make a good compromise. Looking forward to your future videos.
Thanks for sharing!
The M8 is a great camera. I have one but I switched to an M9 because of the full frame sensor and better iso. But I need to dust off the M8 and have fun with it again.
The M8 and M9 have some of the most beautiful colors straight out of the camera.
the shutter sound is so good!!
Right? Seriously my favorite part.
Hammer..., die Aufnahmen der M8 haben deutlich mehr Charme als die der M11. Ich stand vor der Entscheidung zwischen einer M11 oder einer M10P und bin heute sehr froh das ich mich für die Letztere entschieden habe, zumal auch die Objektive für die M11 hätten angepasst werden müssen, da die älteren Summicrone für den neuen Sensor nicht mehr gut performt hätten. Aber dass die alte M8 solche Resultate raushaut, hätte ich nicht gedacht.
The M8 has a reputation of being “an endless roll of Kodachrome” and that has been my experience so far.
There's something special in some sensors that can not be replicate; like this Leica M8 CCD and the first version of Blackmagic Pocket camera OG .....
It's been so fun seeing what comes out of this camera.
Interesting to see the color/saturation/contrast difference between the two cameras. One of these days I'd like to rent the M11 to compare it to my M9.
I was blown away at the difference in the DNG files.
well, I was an early M8 adopter, first batch in NYC. It bricked after a day. Very inauspicious start. It was love hate all the way like that. No issues with BW, but the color- you can see the IR contamination in several of the shots, the 11 has a neutral black, the 8 is magenta, even with the filter. That would be fine, but wait till you get to skin tone indoors under tungsten- everyone looks like they have rosacea. It was so long ago but everything that people seem to be waxing lovely on were definite negatives when it launched, in fact Leica really took it on the chin with that camera, the UVIR filters they had to pay for, many bricked cameras, sensor faults like stuck pixels leaving vertical lines, anything wider than 25 and you start to see cyan corners which had to be profiled out and that never worked great, it goes on and on. You have to remember where they were coming from - the M6/7- that shutter was like a canon compared to the film M's- so much so they offered an "upgrade"- $1500 for the .2 shutter. Only the red dot has the nerve to call a fix an upgrade. I loved that camera, and I hated that camera. It ruined so many pictures, and it made so many pictures. Vowed never again. Did I mention I just got a Q2. Sigh.
Man what a journey. But that’s how it goes!
@@davidherring Well you kind of hope that isn't how it goes when spending £3000 on a camera in 2006!!
Amazing how vivid and accurate the colour science is on that M8! Amazing
I agree!
I can't afford the M8, but I got my hands on an Olympus E-500 - with the 4/3 version of that Kodak sensor.
The colors just pop.
Three years ago I picked up an aging Kodak point and shoot digital camera (featured in the movie Mission Impossible 2) for next to nothing, that rarely works for more than 1 or 2 shots at a time before I have to reset it by removing the batteries. I have only used it a couple of times - always in the middle of summer because it seizes up in cold weather, but the way it renders yellows in particular is wonderful.
The old sensors might not be as accurate as modern sensors, but Kodak got it right back then.
I wish we’d see a comeback of Kodak color science and modern camera systems. Would be the best of both worlds.
Leica is the ultimate goal for myself. Looking at thee pictures during the video the vibrance of the M8 colours are incredible. The M11 has rather muted colours . Would I be right in saying this ?
I’d say the M11 is a really great, editable, unstyled look. The M8 is heavily styled by Kodak, and I never edit my M8 photos outside of exposure.
Idea for an M8 video: take it into a great place in the California nature and do an Ansel Adams Style photography video
Sold! I'l do it.
looks a bit like.... the m8 lets the shadows drown in delicious darkness but the fruit colours pop to give a nicer contrast ; the M11 seems to recover more details from the shadows but... at the cost of washing out the colour. This is why I like slide film; what do you want the emphasis on - the shadows or the subject in the light? it's a no brainer.I think contrastier pictures tell a story or convey an atmosphere better.
The M8 and M9 colors are unmatched.
The M8 did blow my mind, my first Leica and fave of all.. I didn't love another Leica in quite the same way again until I met the M11.
Love my M11 too. Nice it now has a grandpa.
I think an interesting video would be street shooting comparison. From a handling perspective, I suspect the M11 gains some serious advantages when the scenes start to get dynamic and fast paced. But what about image quality? That's the thing about Leica.. you can generally dip back a few generations and get similar results and shooting style since their core goal is to maintain the heritage. I think a lot of shooters are after the street experience, so that might be a good video to show it's a Leica quality inherently and M bodies are just a spectrum of convenience and flexibility.
Personally, I think this video really shows how well Leica has done with staying the course. The M11 is a BEAST.. but ultimately it's a stones throw from the M8 without losing the feel of Leica's experience. Super commendable this day and age.
Agreed! I don’t know if I will ever be comfortable taking both out in San Francisco, but I’m planning to take the M8 out today if it will stop raining! Watch for the video on Monday.
@@davidherring Awesome. SF colors are great with those old sensors. I had the D70 and D200 during my time there and SF just came alive on them. I'm headed to Gilroy (unfortunately!) In a few months and I'm definitely aiming to get some outer sunset down on my M240 sensor.
Love these old cameras. Things weren't so "raw or bust" and they really played with getting lovely results in camera. It worked!
Unfortunately when I moved a few years ago my wife made me toss all my old Leica sales brochures. It still blows my mind that Kodak had this technology and its upper management didn’t know what to do with it. The CCD sensor generation will be looked back on as the Kodachrome era of digital. The first digital marketing info Leica put out was on the S1, after that Digi-Lux, all before the ‘M’. There was lots of blowback from traditionalist when the M8 came out. I love the old CCD colors but some times they could be on the over ripened side. What’s missing now is the Leica development program that once was pre Lightroom. Slowly we’ll get back there, I think it’s going to take Leica adding a module into their Foto’s program to fully harvest the camera sensors full potential. Great content Dave, your challenge now is to stay objective and not fall in love with the romance of the M8. Kodak built an empire off of Kodachrome but that doesn’t mean we should go back there. It’s a look and one I happen to love but when I take product shots I’d rather have my M11-P. Thanks to people like you and others, photography is experiencing a new renaissance.
Thanks for the comment. The M11 cannot be replaced for my work and serious photography, but the M8 is a nice and fun camera as well. I have several cameras but none has as beautiful of rendering as this M8.
Nope, the M8 is very special. I hope it helps you with your presets.
This camera has been haunting me for years. Just can’t justify the admission price at my skill level. One of the reasons I think it’d be perfect for me is the lens choices, would be great to see various LTM lenses shot on the M8 like Jupiter, Avenon wide, Canon and of course Zeiss lenses. There are good vintage glass finds out there, and in my mind would really make a M8 kit super interesting.
Thanks for sharing. It’s really a fun camera!
Yeah, I got myself an M8 last year, Dave, taken some nice images with it also, its great!. I'm looking to pick up a nice condithion M 240, but I'll definetly hang on to the M8
Nice. I can’t wait to take more photos with it!
That M8 DNG color is quite nice straight out of camera 💯 makes the M11 look wayyy flat when you compare them. But the magic is in the dynamic range on that m11 sensor 🎯
True. The M11 is insane with dynamic range!
The M8 is amazing. It is closed to film. It has the Leica look. Good video!
Thanks!
Palo Alto farmer’s market? Wonderful colors…. Love the tomatoes! Have fun with the M8, I have a D700 I will never part with!
Thanks! No, not Palo Alto. I’m in the South Bay. But we have farmers markets everywhere here and they all kind of look the same haha.
Your video convinced me to reconsider an M8 again. How much maintenance do you think it'll need considering it's an older camera? That's the only hold out I have about it but I really would like a digital M that can produce those Kodachrome colors SOOC.
I’m not sure about the maintenance in the long run, but so far so good! I’m loving the colors right out of this camera. Pretty amazing.
Great video about the M8 Dave! I have my M9 for about a year now and recently shoot even more with it. I specifically love the b/w conversion out of these old sensors. Mine has also the corrosion issue, but shooting wide open around F4 you can’t anything and it was under 1000$ 😊
Thanks! The M8 and M9 are really incredible cameras and were revolutionary.
The sepia conversion straight out of the M9 is to die for ;’)
Fortunately, I have developed impulse control. Otherwise, MPB would have one less used M8 available. LOVE, LOVE those colors!
Haha if it wasn’t for planning and strategizing it would be hard to justify anything I do 😂
Most usefull CCD/CMOS sensor comparison
I´ve seen. Thank you very much for that. I´ll keep my M9!
Happy I could help!
I remember being so bummed when I took my first M9 shots after upgrading. The M8 had some magic for sure...
Definitely has some magic!
Well I’d say the M8 won hands down. Much fuller saturated colours; as u say, very filmic. But not being full frame and only 10mps I wonder how well and what size it comfortably prints ? (Also Prhps the filter helped to give it more colour ? ). Nice video n pics, Thks !
It's wild how different it is. I'm going to do a video about prints from this camera soon!
Gorgeous colors on the M8. I also wonder how b&w would look without the IR filter. B&W Infared photography. If it turns out interesting I'd love to see a vid about that.
I have an M8 and the rendering, micro contrast & overall tonality in B&W jpeg, without the UV/IR cut filter, is quite amazing. Really cool look with a vintage lens. Would make a good video.
Id add that the downside is how slow it writes the files when set in jpeg.
I'll definitely make this video!
B&W with the M8 is amazing. True it takes a while for the jpegs but it's a slow camera anyway just like shooting film- makes the whole process more deliberate.
I sold my M8 (shot with a 35mm 2.5 Voigtländer color scopar) one year ago and regreted it ever since. The pictures from the M8 have such a organic look and feel, unmatched...
Agreed they are unmatched by any camera I've ever used!
Thank you! The M8 looks so much more brilliant in color. I am on the fence about getting the M8 but this def helps! Where is the best place to find one? Also, what kind of lense would you recommend?
I got mine at MPB! geni.us/leicam8
For lenses, I'd go 28mm so it's a 35mm on the M8 sensor. Check out lenses by Voigtlander if you want to save some cash, or a 28mm Leica Elmarit or Summicron if you want to retain value.
@@davidherring thank you so much! I appreciate the quick reply!
The colors are amazing. Would love to see how the render in a portrait session.
I’ll be doing that soon!
Still use my M8 for color. My main cam is the M11M. Taking the two of them on a shoot is almost like carrying two m6 bodies, one loaded with Kodachrome 64, the other with Kodak Technical Pan. Unfortunately, back in the film days, I only had one M6 and always shot B/W with it.
Really great combo. Thanks for sharing!
I have the M8 ….. the only other digital M I’m interested in is an M8.2 ….. it satisfies my needs as a film photographer at heart. The crappy ISO performance just means that I only shoot it up to 640 …. which is fine for me. I don’t fool too much with jpegs because of how awesome the unedited .dng files are. I would love to see you test high contrast black and white jpegs vs Tri X pushed one stop.
Same, I may crank to 800 now and then, otherwise I shoot very low ISO. Living in CA helps, where it's always bright.
great vid Dave, btw what settings do you use for the M8? sharpening/ saturation/ contrast? I have all to standard
Standard on all mine as well!
Hey David, what is your preferred lens. I use the VL 2,0 Ultron, but bc I have the Q2M and Q3 , wanr to buy 21 for m8. I also really enjoy the m8
On the M8, 28mm because it’s basically a 35… which is my fav.
CCD sensor is very close to filmic colours you can get. Get those cheap compact cameras with CcD sensors and you’re golden.
Facts!
Great video! My M8 is the only camera I won't part with. Try IR photography with it (perhaps a subject for one video).
Great idea! I shot yesterday without the filter. Very wild results.
As a D50 fan, I’d love to see a comparison between the M8 and a D50. Leica vs Leica doesn’t tell me much, as I don’t own one. But I do have a D50. Maybe a thought for next time?
I wish I still had my D50 but I sold it in 2009 I believe.
The Kodak colors are 100% there for the M8. I'm glad you're not doing pixel peeping for this kind of comparison.
For sure. Yeah, you can't pixel peep a 10mp camera haha.
From my iPad Pro the colours from the M11 look more natural and kind of organic.
M11 is way flatter and edits wonderfully. The M8 just has a look.
I can't believe it... I really wanted to like the m11 images more, but I feel like the m8 files look so much better and more realistic for me.
The M8 is styled already and definitely beautiful.
The M8 and M9 always had the best colours in my opinion, I miss my M9 :( I think the M10 and M11 are great but man.. there's something about that CCD goodness. Btw have you try matching your M11 colour to match your M8? I tried to do the same with my M11 but.. I don't think I got it right. Thanks anyway this video was great! Cheers!
I've heard this about the M8 and M9 for years. Finally able to confirm!
...and the shutter lag on the m8 is far less than the M11! Love the colors!
The shutter is so pleasing.
Wunderful comperison. For me, I would prefer the M8. Many Cameras lose their pleasing look, when they encrease megapixels.
The M8 straight out of the camera is perfection.
I got the M8 a few years ago because it was the only one I could afford! I wouldn’t swap it for a newer M as it has so much character
I love the M8. It's a great camera!
Great video and love the comparison. Personally I would have more fun with the M8 because I love shooting film for the charachter it has. The M8 realy delivers a closer look to the film look and the way it handles color, shadows, and highlights. I would love to see how it handles skin tones in some portrait shots in your futue videos.
Agreed! And I'll definitely be sharing more!
Dave, you gave me that final nudge... Thanks a lot, SMH! It's on its way from Japan now. Let me know if you want to collaborate. I'm in flat as* Florida and I'm not exactly a great photographer but I'm down anyway lol.
Ha congrats! It’s such a fun camera, and the look right out it is beautiful.
@@davidherring I’m looking forward to it.
My M8 was also mint condition, but had 25,000 shots on it. People have reported up to 150,000 before camera fails. But I love my M8. Only shoot BnW.
So wild, I checked this morning (thanks to a comment showing me how) and it’s at 3,750.
First off, wow. The M8 files look infinitely better than the M11 SOOC. That is wild. There is so much life and character to the photographs that the M11 just lacks. Am I feeling a Kodachrome VGP coming soon????
There's definitely something special in the works for this fall.
The files are amazing on a sunny day, but the newer Leicas Ms trump it in most other light conditions. I have owned M8's for 15 years now but now shoot mainly with a M10. You can also come close to the M8 files look by increasing contrast and some color channels(red and blue), so overall I am not sure that the M8 colors are enough to offset the risk of critical failures (especially the shutter, avoid shooting too much at 1/8000 by the way) and loud shutter (not ideal for street photography).
I hear you. I don’t see myself shooting that high ever, and will typically use an ND on my lenses to stay below 1/1000.
Appreciate your work Dave
Thank you!
3 Months Later... Are you still using your M8, or has the novelty worn off? I am asking because I use an M10 w/ a 35mm Summ for walk around and a landscape project. My Leica is my "other camera," as I use Nikon Z for 90% of my nature photography work. With that said, I really enjoy using my M's and value the unique shooting experience that reminds me of my many decades with film and even 645 gear. I am considering the addition of a 2nd body, but don't want to spend $3500+ again. The M8 seems like the perfect Kodachrom / TriX replacement, but I'm not sure if I'm just infatuated with the novelty of the old sensor. So it is with this question in mind... you're now using an M11, do you still feel the desire to shoot the M8 with all of its limitations?... regards, bruce
Good question! I own verygoodpresets.com & bought the M8 to bring these legendary colors to modern sensors. After many field tests to create images for development, I sold the M8 back out.
@@davidherring I owned an M8 in 2011 and enjoyed it, and was feeling a bit nostalgic about the body. With that said, I'm not excited about adding a 4th battery type and charger into the mix... with a Z9, Z8, and M10 I'm using 3 batteries and 3 different chargers... a real hassel when on the road. Thanks for sharing your journey w the camera.
Colors on M8 are rich. You especially see this with the orange colors. I’m curious to know how both cameras feel in terms of handling, not in terms of controls as there would be a difference in controls, but in feel.
I have larger hands so I actually like the size and bulk of the M8. That said, the M11 is definitely a refined experience.