For real world, everyday usage, no one does a better job reviewing equipment than Dustin... and in step by step detail clearly showing how and why he arrives at a particular determination. Based in part of this detailed evaluation, I'm going to buy my first Tamron lens.
Thanks for all the hard work making this! I'm happy I got the Tamron G2 for my 5Dsr. Have used it a few times on shoots, and am very impressed by the results! Your videos helped me settle on the choice that was right for me.
Dustin, even based upon your first in this series, it was enough to convince me to get the Tamron G2. This second review was just great, and my experiences shooting with the G2 have been very good indeed. At 500 USD less and with Image stabilization, it is a no brainer. Great reviews and extremely helpful. Thanks (again)
Hello Jay! Thank you for sharing your experience with the Tamron 24-70mm. Have you still continued to use this lens in recent years? Was it resistant or did it have defects? I thank the attention.
Thankyou for all your thorough exhausting comparison testing Dustin. This confirms still further that I was absolutely right to choose the Tamron 24 - 70 G2 😃
Hello Sir I had a question for you as you are a user of this lens. Some people are complaining about the focusing of the tamron g2 . Specifically some are complaining that the middle focus point does not focus in the middle. The focus gets shifted a little bit. Are you aware of any such problem? Or did you face any while using your tamron g2 lens ? Please let me know.
DoomedRace999 It's not something I've experienced personally, I can only attribute their issue to receiving a decentred lens which has been knocked about during transport/dropped. I'm aware that 3rd party lenses do tend towards more variance in terms of quality control so you might need to try 2 or 3 copies before you find one thats perfect. Dustins review of two copies suggest Tamrons quality control is pretty good given he had no severe issues with batch variation. I might also suggest purchasing the USB tap in console to calibrate the lens to ensure it doesn't forward /back focus which might also be perceived as a focusing issue. There will always be some focus fine tuning required even with OEM lenses ( and this can of course be corrected in- body in the cameras menus). I tested my own G2 pretty thoroughly in terms of focus and it's essentially spot on for me using a Nikon D7200.
This is exactly what I was looking for when I left you a comment a few months ago! Thank you for making my buying decision much much easier. Thank you so much Dustin!
Dustin Abbott since the Tamron is very comparable to the canon in sharpness, I will take the tamron for the VC and if canon releases a new 24-70 iii with IS I will most likely sell the Tamron for the canon. That’s my game plan lol
Dustin - just wanted to say that I thought you did a great job reviewing my lens - and glad to see, at least on a tripod, as well as on my A7Rii, that it is as sharp as I know it to be. Here's hoping that Canon, Tamron and Sigma make you one of their top lens appraisers, and start shipping you out all their pre-production lenses, because you are extremely honest and trustworthy - and this fact made me comfortable shipping you my lens to test. Least anyone out there, after watching this review, think I am somehow an anti Canon photog - I am not. I am a professional wedding photographer and I own and use many of Canon's best cameras and glass (1Dxii, 5DSR, 24-70 F2.8 II, Canon 70-200 F2.8 II IS, Canon 35Lii, Canon 100-400L ii IS) - but I have also come to the conclusion, after enormous testing over the last few years, that Canon needs to start releasing IS primes to bring the full benefit to handheld shooters - such as myself. In the meantime, I have found a few 3rd party IS lenses that I would highly recommend should you own a high megapixel sensor camera; the following are the lenses that I own and would highly recommend if you want to handhold and shoot any cameras such as the 5D4 and the 5DSR: - the Tamron 45 1.8 VC, the Tamron 85 1.8 VC, the Sigma 24-105 F4 OS - and finally, after Dustin's testing, I will be looking to add the Tamron 24-70 F2.8 VC to that list - but I won't be selling my Canon 24-70 F2.8 II. Thanks again Dustin. Paul
Thanks Paul, one, for loaning your 24-70 so that Dustin can do this comparison and two, for you comments above. I have a 5D4 and have the Canon 24-70 f2.8II as well and love it. But is did get the Tamron 45 1.8VC and use that often especially taking pictures in low light or indoors handheld. It's a great lens and I got it primarily as a result of Dustin's review of it. (Are you listening Tamron). Cheers, Florian
Dustin, this was such a helpful video and it really does highlight the need for image stabilisation as camera manufacturers up the mega pixel game. I think the Nikon D850 users are going to find getting sharp images off a tripod quite challenging. What impressed me most about this video was your ability to get sharp hand-held images at low shutter speeds. Perhaps a very short video on your various techniques would be in order! Thanks once again.
Quentin - I think the technique is more about being fit than anything. I do a lot of weight training and yoga, and it just gives a person more muscle control. That's hard to replicate for those that are older, and I won't always have that ability, either, so its important for manufacturers to develop good stability, particularly if we are doing to keep pushing the envelope in terms of resolution.
Wow! Now that's what I call a real world review! Shows that lab results are not always true in real life! You definitely helped me making the right choice (the Tamron) and also saved me a few hundred bucks! Thank you very much for your review!!
In shooting my Nikon D850 with a Nikon 24-70mm f/2.8 G lens (non VR), I was seeing some degradation in the sharpness of my images handheld at lower shutter speeds so I rented a Nikkor 24-70mm f/2.8 VR ll. I was truly impressed by the image quality this lens produced. The caveats are that this lens is heavy, large, made entirely of plastic and is expensive. Yesterday, I bought a Tamron 24-70mm VC G2 with a full understanding of my camera store's return policy. The Tamron is of all metal construction, fully weather-proofed, is smaller and lighter. I might have gotten lucky but I'm quite happy with my copy of this lens. The Nikon 24-70mm f/2.8 VR ll is simply a great lens... but after a total of 400+ images, in a "head to head shoot-off" between these two lenses, the Nikon, at more than twice the price of the Tamron, simply wasn't "twice the lens" at twice the price. The Tamron 24-70mm f/2.7 VC G2 is a keeper. Not selling my great Nikon glass though.... I'm totally satisfied with my Nikkor 70-200mm f/2.8 VR ll for portraits, my Nikkor 20mm f/1.8 for wide-field astrophotography and landscapes, my Nikkor 50mm f/1.4. for ultra low light. Here's the heresy.... when I travel "for fun" to see family or friends, , I pack my D850 with a Nikkor 28-300mm f/3.5-5.6mm VR ll and my Nikkor 50mm f/1.4. That's it. For a "travel lens", the 28-300mm Nikkor is an extraordinary lens and just hasn't received the praise it should... and when I need pure speed, I have the 1.4.
Super detail reviews of total awesomeness as always, very relevant in 2020 still for the majority of people still on DSLR. I think the Tamron G2 24-70 looks awesome, thank you Dustin for such an awesome review. Hats off.
Thank you for a great review.- this is the most relevant video I've seen and I'm saving for a Tamron. I have an old 28-75 and it is sharp as long as the shutter speed is high enough. I'm looking forward to some VC and much faster focusing
+Timothy B You’ll get both of those with this lens. I owned the 28-75 at some point years ago. I liked the lens, though I think I only used it on APS-C at the time.
Good final part 2 test Dustin, as you have said, it depends what and how you shoot to which lens is best for you, but that Tamron certainly gives the Canon a good run for it's money!
Thanks Dustin, I bought a 5dsr and the 24-105mm canon lacks detail, im looking at the Tamron 24-70g2 also as im really impressed with my Tamron 45mm Vc 1.8 an amazing lense ! They have really up'd their game in image quality since my 28-200 on my Nikon F65 Film :)
Been thinking about a 24-70 and this video is amazing help. I just wish you did a bit on shooting video with these lenses since I do both. Running this on a APC camera such as 80D I wonder if there's any difference aside from the crop.
I would think the 85mm IS coming out would be the first of a whole bunch with IS & 24-70 is just a matter of time. My original version Tamron 24-70 has had complete AF failure a few times over the last 5 years, so I'd still opt for the native lens options at this time.
I can understand your concern. I'd be a little leery if that had been my experience, too. The new version seems to be vastly improved, but its hard to predict long term reliability.
Great as usual. I know is not the Nikon but im sure its similar story. I sold my Nikon 24-70 non VR and im sure it was hair sharper especially at 70 2.8 but in the real world non VR really made me struggle at times. Good job tamron bring such a sick quality lens to the masses, its very very very hard to justify a 2800usd lens over this G2, especially for the people that dont make much or at all money from photography. Thank you Dustin for making my nights easier. It was hunting me down that i did not test my nikon vs the tamron before i sold it, and was wondering if i made the wrong decision. Now i know my gut was right and have no regrets.
Where the Canon excels compared to the others seems to be corner sharpness at big aperture. But in reality, the only types of shots that requires sharp corners are landscape. As long as you're not shooting in the middle of the night, stepping down to f4 or smaller is not a problem. You would wanna do that anyway to reach longer depth of field. With that in mind the choice is easy for me to go with the Tamron. Stabilizer (that actually makes real world difference) + cheaper pricetag
It is basically impossible to separate the lens VC from the camera stablization. You turn off one and they both turn off. I suspect they work together to some degree, but it's impossible to judge to what standard.
I really want that Tamron 24-70 G2. I have the G1 now, and I know this should be a big step up. It's just difficult to sell that G1 lens at the moment. Plus, I want to get Tamron 70-200 G2 first because that is the focal range I miss. I have 24-70 G1, 50 1.8g, Tamron 90 macro, Tamron 150-600 G2.
As a hobby, I think Tamron and Sigma are both great choices. For me the deciding factor was your 90 macro review. Since I’m buying Tamron macro, I want to stay in this eco system and utilize that tap-in console, though I haven’t done any tuning with it. 24-70 was a grey market deal, saved over a third over retail one a little over a year ago. 150-600 g2 was a Newegg promotion, regulat price plus tax, but comes with $300 GC from Newegg it came to about $150-170 cheaper than from Adorama. The pattern here for me is to buy the best deal.
Mr Dustin, thank you for your in depth review. I had a question for you. Some people are complaining about the focusing of the tamron g2 . Specifically some are complaining that the middle focus point does not focus in the middle. The focus gets shifted a little bit. Are you aware of any such problem? Or did you face any while using your tamron g2 lens ? Please let me know.
I can't really say that I saw that issue. I think that proper calibration with the Tap In solves most all the focus issues in the Tamron lenses I've tested or used in the past few years.
Dustin Abbott Not very high.... 5d mark 3... but still... i think that especially in low light situations like some events or weddings where you have only seconds at some times , the vc from the tam has more benefits than the canon with a littlebit more edge sharpness.... at least thats what i think..... you helped me choose once again! Thank you!
It's always interesting to watch your thorough and thoughtful reviews of lenses, Dustin, even when the lenses are not ones that I am considering at the moment! :) A quick question that is not related to this review: In your reviews of both the recently released 35mm (F1.4) Zeiss Milvus, and the earlier Milvus 85mm (F1.4) and Milvus 50mm (F1.4), did you notice a marked difference in colour saturation among them? I want to purchase one of these three for lanscape photography, (even though I know the 85 is not as suited to landscape use). Thanks again.
Zeiss really excels at providing consistent color performance (always excellent!) across their lens line. No one does optics quite as well as them. PS -an 85mm is actually a fabulous landscape choice in a lot of settings.
Thanks again, Dustin. I was considering the 85mm Zeiss Milvus instead of the 50mm Zeiss Milvus, although another much cheaper possibility for a quality middle prime is the Voigtlander 58mm SL II s. (Then I could stick with the planned Milvus 35mm F1.4 at the wide end, and the brilliant Zeiss Apo Sonnar 135mm F2 at the other, and an empty bank account! :)) Looking forward to your forthcoming reviews.
I was litterly going crazy when i was looking for a 24-70 lens for my sony a7rii and i bought the tamron lens at first but was changes my mind and did returning it and bought canon 24-70 2.8 II insteed. Really Nice video! Looks like i did the right Choice.
Hamza Benarafa I would say the Sony is a bit better on some focal lengths, the Sony is newer and more modern. It really depends on whether you get a good copy of the lens.
I have question for you , i do think tamron is great lens but how do i fix problem canon cameras not supporting in camera lens correction ? or i dont see this lens in adobe lightroom. So if i shoot wedding and have 500 photos is that means that i need every single photo to process and fix with manual lens profile correction ???? this is very confusing. i would rather get canon then if i need to fix every single photo individually to fix distortion or vinyetting or whatever . help with this please
Great review Dustin, thanks! Any of you have problems with 3rd party lenses on new bodies of Canon? I mean, right now, it's okay, but later when Canon introduces new bodies, then it starts the problem (focusing, etc?)
Thank you again for a very insightful review! I'm getting closer in making a decision between canon or tamron. There is just one thing I just need to know between those 2 lenses; the autofocus speed and hunting at different focal length and well-lit and low light conditions. It's quite a big thing for events or semi-action/action photography in indoors or on outdoors.
I shot them side by side in identical situations and frankly didn't really see a difference. My gut would say that the Canon would be the most reliable, but I didn't actually see that.
Dustin Abbott my basis for my question regarding autofocus speed and accuracy at lowlight is this very short video. ruclips.net/video/fKyi6j58Okc/видео.html The only difference is that this is based on a video comparison rather than taking a picture
Interesting. I didn't compare the Tamron to the Canon in that kind of setting, but it was definitely better than the older Tamron 24-70 VC and Sigma 24-70 ART when I compared them.
Thanks again, Dustin! Great review. The handheld tests almost made me giddy. I'm super eager to get the Tamron. It'll be the first pro lens in my kit. But I still don't know if it holds up on a crop sensor camera. Are you still planning on looking at that? As I said before, I bought the Tamron 70-300... admittedly a much cheaper lens. Given Tamron's reputation recently, I was expecting a really decent lens. Not pro.. but decent. It was really soft on the APS-C. (I wasted an an air show on that lens before I realized it. The photos are good as long as you don't look close.) I rented the Canon 70-300 and, while it was comparable on the full frame, it blew away the Tamron on the crop sensor. Now, admittedly, comparing the cheaper lenses are like apples and turnips but.. burn me once.. shame on me. You know. If you have both lenses in hand, you can save me the trouble (and cost) of renting them both to find out before I make the purchase. Of course, if anyone else here knows... feel free to chime in. Thanks, Chris
What's crazy is right now the Sigma lens on eBay is $1,079 and the Canon L 24-70 F2 .8 is $1,249! The basically about $160 more for the Canon when's which appears to be way way better. They used to be a huge gap in these prices but the cannon has went way down. I would prefer to have the RF but I don't have $3,000
I sold my 24-70 earlier this year with the plan to replace it with the G2 version, but while using my 35L II as a "replacement", I found I didn't really miss a 24-70 all that much. So, for now, I'm using the 35L II and 70-200 G2 for events and weddings.
Dustin, how about using a pair of the EF 16-35mm f/2.8 III L and EF 85mm f/1.4 IS L USM (coming in november), instead of a 35L II + 70-200G2 ? ( can we use a Wide Zoom + stabilised Tele-Prime, rather than a Wide Prime + stabilised Tele-Zoom ? ) since Sony A7 bodies have IBIS, a GMaster 16-35/2.8 would give better IQ in lowlight handheld, than 16-35 L III + 5D4 (esp. for someone who doesn't like the extra weight of Tamron 15-30VC) One solution for a Rich Shooter (Pro or Amateur) is maintaining 3 or 4 Systems concurrently : Sony A7III (rumored) + 12-24/4G or Fuji X-T2 + 8-16mm f/2.8 (coming soon) (UWA Zooms, both are lighter than 11-24L & 12-24 ART) Canon 5D4 + 35L II + 85L IS Nikon D850 + 70-200E (even if it is twice expensive than Tamron G2) even i don't like the limited range of 24-70 and feel that i could do without it, by having a two body set-up with two lenses, one prime and one zoom, or both primes. regards, thanks.
Great review! But in all honesty, which of the 3 would you pick? and is Image stabilization really important? Would appreciate if you would answer this. subbed too.
If you shoot handheld, IS is very important. If you shoot with a higher megapixel body handheld, it is doubly important. The Canon is the sharpest lens of the three, but becomes less sharp handheld in some situations because of lacking IS. The Tamron is the most well rounded of the three.
Thanks for the reply, I shot the 70-200 on a 1/30 and photos came out sharp with no blurring at all. I guess I can say I'm safe without the IS? or probably was just lucky?, I'm really torn between the mkII or just settlign down for the mkI, for the mean time I shoot with a 6D mkII, but I'm about to get a 5d mkIII (mkIV is out of the question).
is there any image stabilization test done with canon 24-70 on R5/R6 handheld. would like to know if the IBIS helps while shooting at shutter speed less than 1/100 and get a better hit ratio compared to the non IBIS body.
You definitely will see a major difference with an IBIS equipped body. I don’t really see any tangible difference between using it there or a lens with IS.
Hi Dustin, for the same price, I would love to hear your thoughts between the Canon mk2 (2nd hand) and RF24-105 (new, F4, IS, no adaptor needed on Eos RP)
@@DustinAbbottTWI Hi Dustin, thanks for the reply. It's still a hard call for me on the investment point of view since the new RF lineup seems incredible. I'll just have to rethink haha
I am on the fence whether the Tamron G2 vs Sigma Art 24-70. Do you find the Tamron with the reverse direction Zoom ring hard to get used to? (opposite direction to turn to zoom from Canon and Sigma models)...This has been holding me back a bit as I do weddings and events full time and not sure that would be a problem for me to get used to....Thanks for the great reviews... Philip
Philip - that seems to be a big deal for some people and not at all for others. I use so many different lenses that I think my brain just skips right over that (I don't notice it at all). Some people really do. So, as they say, YMMV.
Thanks for the fast reply Dustin....Disregarding the zoom ring issue, which would in your opinion be a better choice. I will use with my 5D4 and 5D3 models....
One important question I forgot to ask Dustin...(Probably the most important for weddings). Which lens has the fastest and most accurate focus. Having one lens slightly sharper to me is not as important as nailing the focus fast and accurate even, if it means the lens is slightly less sharp with the optics. Thanks as always and happy shooting...... Philip
And what about speed and accuracy of autofocus comparing Tamron and Canon? I saw part one that you prove that tamron is a better choice than the sigma.
Question, were these lens' AF micro-adjusted? I picked up the Tamron and I'm finding it a little soft. It could be me. So I also got the Tap-in Console, but find it a little daunting to use.
Yes, although most of these tests were done via Live View (which doesn't require calibration and eliminates that from the equation). You might want to check out my playlist on doing lens calibration here: ruclips.net/p/PLwWFV2kake9GfVSsVx4pJQ0-9KlccQXB0
Which of the 3 would be best when it comes to sports or action photography? Im wondering how the autofocus will do on Tamron and Sigma when capturing a moving object. Is there hunting or does the focus latch on quite smoothly?
It is been said that the Canon 24-70mm mk2 not stabilized at 1,700 dollars destroyed the new tamron G2 stabilized lens, 1,200 dollars, whats your opinion ? I find myself that i do not need stabilization for 70mm and less.......
Thank you for the hard work u put on those images by showing the real world test but why not try for human subjects especially for the wider aperture and higher apertures for the shots of those wooden stuffs. Just a thought.
At 4:18 or so, you say that the Canon has better (greater) contrast in the center compared to the Tamron. I disagree. On my calibrated monitor, I clearly see better contrast for the Tamron.
Yeah, i see that you are busy enough without Nikon gear. Just hoping it, maybe in the future. Your content is so great, that i wouldn't mind to even pay some euros for it. I'm sure that i'm not the only one. :) Hmm. need to think that patreon thing..
The reason for even willing to pay something, is that your content really is _valuable_ for me. It gives new perspective to many things about the photo scenery (as a pro you share lot of your insights simultaneously during your reviews), and it also helps to plan future purchases. I feel that i have learned about photography, some Canadian culture, and language skills also. You are some of the nicest RUclips persons also. I like your analytic and discreet style. :) So i'm happy, that i can choose your content, and idon't need to watch Jared Polin's or Angry photographers content for example. xD
Sir, can you test the Tamron G2 at 70mm close headshot range to see if it has severe focus breathing compared to the Canon? I heard that the G2 used the same optical formula as the G1 and the G1 had severe focus breathing at close range. Edit: www.mobile01.com/newsdetail/22593/24-70mm-f2-8-canon-nikon-sigma-sony-tamron-tokina It seems that the Nikon seems to be the closest out of all 24-70s in this link, then the Sony, but this not being a lab test I'm not sure if it was the model moving or not as I don't read Chinese.
I have very controversial thoughts for the tamron. I've bought it two months ago. I`ve notice significant change in focus ability when use some of the far side focus points on my 5d iv body. Like the center far side right for example. The focus area is out of focus and blurry every time. This is strongly pronounced at 24 mm wide open at 2 meters distance and is no matter on a tripod, handheld or with microadjusments made to the lens. It just shoot like that all the time. I hope is just a bad copy ... i`ll test a new one.
+Венелин Братанов Are you saying that it focuses accurately in the center, but not on the far edge points? But that wasn’t the case initially? If that’s true, you may need to have it checked out, as that doesn’t seem like normal behavior
Yes. That is the situation. It focus accurately at center , but not accurate on the far edge points. Thank you Dustin. I have not explain the whole situation right i guess. It doesn't seem normal to me either. I didn't have that kind of a problem before. Anyway maybe is a bad copy after all.
*** And Still don't know whether going with 24-70 G2 and risk of front/back focus issues, or with the expensive nikon 24-70E VR which is less sharp :( ***
If you experience significant front or back focus issues, you can always return the lens or send it to Tamron for calibration. I think it is worth the risk.
A lesson learned: The impracticality for many purposes, off a tripod use, of non-stabilized lenses for camera bodies like Canon's that do not have in camera stabilization that include Sigma's Prime lenses and some of their zoom lenses. Even more impractical are Zeiss Lenses that are manual focus only. Given the shaky financial footing for both Nikon and to a lesser extent Sony it is hard to imagine dumping thousands or tens of thousands into an ecosystem like Nikon or Sony (e.g, petapixel.com/2017/02/14/nikon-stock-plummets-15-extraordinary-loss-bombshell/ nofilmschool.com/2017/02/nikon-cancels-cameras-reports-losses-and-crashes-stock ) or system that changes models so fast that they can support all of them very far into the future (just check out experiences of lensrentals in repair turnaround and customer support). So unless Canon starts putting in camera stabilization into their cameras it seems you are greatly limiting unless you can shoot at very fast shutter speeds to nullify camera shake issues.
It seems that Canon is starting to put out some more stabilized prime lenses, which I think is very smart...and necessary. I don't see them going the full on IBIS route.
This is one zoom where Canon simply can't justify the difference in price to the competition. If it wasn't for my horrible experience with Tamron quality before the redesign I wouldn't even consider the Canon.
Thank you Dustin, really like your reviews. In the end I've bought the Canon 24-70 2.8 ii as I don't afford to have any complication with focus issue or any other problem during a wedding. Canon is Canon and are top of the top for a reason :) Keep up the good work!
+ANAK WATAN I honestly think that is very debatable at this point. The Tamron definitely feels better made, and uses better materials. It has better weather sealing. Whether it is more durable over the long haul remains to be seen
Dustin Abbott yup. You hv the point, however lately i did occured problems with my sigma 50mm f1.4 and 18-35mm f1.8 which have missfocused issues and mulfunction during wedding shooting😣.
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For real world, everyday usage, no one does a better job reviewing equipment than Dustin... and in step by step detail clearly showing how and why he arrives at a particular determination. Based in part of this detailed evaluation, I'm going to buy my first Tamron lens.
That's great praise. Thank you.
Thanks for all the hard work making this!
I'm happy I got the Tamron G2 for my 5Dsr. Have used it a few times on shoots, and am very impressed by the results! Your videos helped me settle on the choice that was right for me.
I'm glad it is working out for you.
Dustin, even based upon your first in this series, it was enough to convince me to get the Tamron G2. This second review was just great, and my experiences shooting with the G2 have been very good indeed. At 500 USD less and with Image stabilization, it is a no brainer. Great reviews and extremely helpful. Thanks (again)
I'm glad it has worked out well for you!
Hello Jay! Thank you for sharing your experience with the Tamron 24-70mm. Have you still continued to use this lens in recent years? Was it resistant or did it have defects? I thank the attention.
Thankyou for all your thorough exhausting comparison testing Dustin. This confirms still further that I was absolutely right to choose the Tamron 24 - 70 G2 😃
Enjoy your lens.
Hello Sir I had a question for you as you are a user of this lens. Some people are complaining about the focusing of the tamron g2 . Specifically some are complaining that the middle focus point does not focus in the middle. The focus gets shifted a little bit.
Are you aware of any such problem? Or did you face any while using your tamron g2 lens ?
Please let me know.
DoomedRace999 It's not something I've experienced personally, I can only attribute their issue to receiving a decentred lens which has been knocked about during transport/dropped. I'm aware that 3rd party lenses do tend towards more variance in terms of quality control so you might need to try 2 or 3 copies before you find one thats perfect. Dustins review of two copies suggest Tamrons quality control is pretty good given he had no severe issues with batch variation. I might also suggest purchasing the USB tap in console to calibrate the lens to ensure it doesn't forward /back focus which might also be perceived as a focusing issue. There will always be some focus fine tuning required even with OEM lenses ( and this can of course be corrected in- body in the cameras menus). I tested my own G2 pretty thoroughly in terms of focus and it's essentially spot on for me using a Nikon D7200.
Thanks Dustin for all the work that you do. They make an impact for those who are shopping for a lens. Keep it up!!! Truly appreciate it.
Thanks for the kind feedback.
This is exactly what I was looking for when I left you a comment a few months ago! Thank you for making my buying decision much much easier. Thank you so much Dustin!
Enjoy!
Yay!!!!!! Part 1-2 are so good!!! Because of the ending of part 2 I will be going with the Tamron G2 🤘🏼
I don't think there is a bad choice in the bunch, but the Tamron is a very balanced, versatile lens.
+Dustin
Yeah, that's a good point. You can't really make a bad choice. All three lenses are impressive pieces of engineering.
Dustin Abbott since the Tamron is very comparable to the canon in sharpness, I will take the tamron for the VC and if canon releases a new 24-70 iii with IS I will most likely sell the Tamron for the canon. That’s my game plan lol
Dustin - just wanted to say that I thought you did a great job reviewing my lens - and glad to see, at least on a tripod, as well as on my A7Rii, that it is as sharp as I know it to be. Here's hoping that Canon, Tamron and Sigma make you one of their top lens appraisers, and start shipping you out all their pre-production lenses, because you are extremely honest and trustworthy - and this fact made me comfortable shipping you my lens to test. Least anyone out there, after watching this review, think I am somehow an anti Canon photog - I am not. I am a professional wedding photographer and I own and use many of Canon's best cameras and glass (1Dxii, 5DSR, 24-70 F2.8 II, Canon 70-200 F2.8 II IS, Canon 35Lii, Canon 100-400L ii IS) - but I have also come to the conclusion, after enormous testing over the last few years, that Canon needs to start releasing IS primes to bring the full benefit to handheld shooters - such as myself. In the meantime, I have found a few 3rd party IS lenses that I would highly recommend should you own a high megapixel sensor camera; the following are the lenses that I own and would highly recommend if you want to handhold and shoot any cameras such as the 5D4 and the 5DSR: - the Tamron 45 1.8 VC, the Tamron 85 1.8 VC, the Sigma 24-105 F4 OS - and finally, after Dustin's testing, I will be looking to add the Tamron 24-70 F2.8 VC to that list - but I won't be selling my Canon 24-70 F2.8 II. Thanks again Dustin. Paul
Thanks Paul, one, for loaning your 24-70 so that Dustin can do this comparison and two, for you comments above. I have a 5D4 and have the Canon 24-70 f2.8II as well and love it. But is did get the Tamron 45 1.8VC and use that often especially taking pictures in low light or indoors handheld. It's a great lens and I got it primarily as a result of Dustin's review of it. (Are you listening Tamron). Cheers, Florian
Thanks a lot for the loaner and the feedback, Paul. I'm strongly considering adding an a7R II to my kit as my high MP option.
Ironically Tamron is having a hard time moving the 45 VC, which is a shame, since it really is a very versatile lens.
Paul & Dustin, good to know your expert comments / advice.
Dustin Abbott do You mean that the 45VC is hard to sell for Tamron? In Sweden, they slashed the price by half for a few days
Most comprehensive review of the three+ lenses out there! But please let's see the final verdict!
My final review on the Tamron comes later this week.
Hi, that is very detailed image quality comparison. I wish autofocus speed and accuracy comparison had been covered
I do mention that in the final review of the Tamron
Thanks Dustin.
Your video is excellent as usual.
Thank you!
Dustin, this was such a helpful video and it really does highlight the need for image stabilisation as camera manufacturers up the mega pixel game. I think the Nikon D850 users are going to find getting sharp images off a tripod quite challenging. What impressed me most about this video was your ability to get sharp hand-held images at low shutter speeds. Perhaps a very short video on your various techniques would be in order! Thanks once again.
Quentin - I think the technique is more about being fit than anything. I do a lot of weight training and yoga, and it just gives a person more muscle control. That's hard to replicate for those that are older, and I won't always have that ability, either, so its important for manufacturers to develop good stability, particularly if we are doing to keep pushing the envelope in terms of resolution.
Wow! Now that's what I call a real world review! Shows that lab results are not always true in real life! You definitely helped me making the right choice (the Tamron) and also saved me a few hundred bucks! Thank you very much for your review!!
It's interesting, isn't it.
i think the handheld comparison is a very good way to go ontop of the tripod based comparison...keep doing them please
It's definitely appropriate for lenses without stabilization
ty, I just picked up a G2 on eBay today looking forward to putting on my 5D MkII.
Enjoy!
Thank you Dustin for all your excellent reviews. You're the best photography gear reviewer on youtube
+hamelin82 That’s very kind. Thank you
In shooting my Nikon D850 with a Nikon 24-70mm f/2.8 G lens (non VR), I was seeing some degradation in the sharpness of my images handheld at lower shutter speeds so I rented a Nikkor 24-70mm f/2.8 VR ll. I was truly impressed by the image quality this lens produced. The caveats are that this lens is heavy, large, made entirely of plastic and is expensive. Yesterday, I bought a Tamron 24-70mm VC G2 with a full understanding of my camera store's return policy. The Tamron is of all metal construction, fully weather-proofed, is smaller and lighter. I might have gotten lucky but I'm quite happy with my copy of this lens. The Nikon 24-70mm f/2.8 VR ll is simply a great lens... but after a total of 400+ images, in a "head to head shoot-off" between these two lenses, the Nikon, at more than twice the price of the Tamron, simply wasn't "twice the lens" at twice the price.
The Tamron 24-70mm f/2.7 VC G2 is a keeper.
Not selling my great Nikon glass though.... I'm totally satisfied with my Nikkor 70-200mm f/2.8 VR ll for portraits, my Nikkor 20mm f/1.8 for wide-field astrophotography and landscapes, my Nikkor 50mm f/1.4. for ultra low light.
Here's the heresy.... when I travel "for fun" to see family or friends, , I pack my D850 with a Nikkor 28-300mm f/3.5-5.6mm VR ll and my Nikkor 50mm f/1.4. That's it. For a "travel lens", the 28-300mm Nikkor is an extraordinary lens and just hasn't received the praise it should... and when I need pure speed, I have the 1.4.
That sounds about right. Tamron is doing a great job of building very balanced lenses.
Super detail reviews of total awesomeness as always, very relevant in 2020 still for the majority of people still on DSLR. I think the Tamron G2 24-70 looks awesome, thank you Dustin for such an awesome review. Hats off.
My pleasure.
if you bought the tamron g2
How was your experience with it? Do you recommend it for wedding photography??
Thank you for a great review.- this is the most relevant video I've seen and I'm saving for a Tamron. I have an old 28-75 and it is sharp as long as the shutter speed is high enough. I'm looking forward to some VC and much faster focusing
+Timothy B You’ll get both of those with this lens. I owned the 28-75 at some point years ago. I liked the lens, though I think I only used it on APS-C at the time.
Brilliant review - well done fella.
You're welcome.
Excellent review, as always. Thank you Dustin.
My pleasure
this video has an incredible kind of sharpness. like it.
Thank you
The tripod test on the Tamron and Sigma, was stabilization on or off?
Great review. Love all the testing you do. Keep up the great work!!
I always turn off stabilization for tripod testing. All manufacturers recommend it.
@@DustinAbbottTWI curious to see the same shots with it on though...
Good final part 2 test Dustin, as you have said, it depends what and how you shoot to which lens is best for you, but that Tamron certainly gives the Canon a good run for it's money!
Right. There's not really bad choices anymore; just the right or wrong choice for your application.
Hey Dustin, have you tried Tamron 24-70 G2 and Sigma art 24-70 on any Canon mirrorless body? If you have, which has better performance?
Dustin, Did you shoot the handheld series of pictures with the 5D4? Great review. Honest, straightforward and thorough as always.
Yes I did.
awesome world class review... best in RUclips
Thank you very much
Thanks Dustin, I bought a 5dsr and the 24-105mm canon lacks detail, im looking at the Tamron 24-70g2 also as im really impressed with my Tamron 45mm Vc 1.8 an amazing lense ! They have really up'd their game in image quality since my 28-200 on my Nikon F65 Film :)
The 24-70 G2 is definitely a stronger lens optically than the 24-105.
Been thinking about a 24-70 and this video is amazing help. I just wish you did a bit on shooting video with these lenses since I do both. Running this on a APC camera such as 80D I wonder if there's any difference aside from the crop.
I doubt you'd see a radical difference with any of these for video work.
@@DustinAbbottTWI The IS or VC is a huge plus for Tamron and Sigma so I think that should be considered. Again for APC cameras though.
Great as always ! I'm eyeing the Tamron but before I replace my G1 I'd like to get the ultra wide by them
+E3Zombie The 15-30 is a very good lens.
Thank you Sir. Very informative.
Glad to help out.
My colleague find it way better in nikon because of in-camera auto-correction of vignetting and distortion. 😊😊😊
Very good and interesting! I am now considering to sell my Nikon 24-70 G and buy the Tamron G2. Will I regret doing this?
I don't know enough about the Nikon, but there seem to be a lot of Nikon shooters happy with the G2
Hi, great review btw.. better than most other videos. Any idea of this would work on EOS R with the adapter and if I'll see any autofocus issues ?
AF should improve, actually.
@@DustinAbbottTWI thanks for your prompt reply .
I would think the 85mm IS coming out would be the first of a whole bunch with IS & 24-70 is just a matter of time. My original version Tamron 24-70 has had complete AF failure a few times over the last 5 years, so I'd still opt for the native lens options at this time.
I can understand your concern. I'd be a little leery if that had been my experience, too. The new version seems to be vastly improved, but its hard to predict long term reliability.
Hey Dustin, don't shorten your reviews for our sake - I've never heard anyone complain your vids are too long !
I've heard it a few times!
Great as usual. I know is not the Nikon but im sure its similar story. I sold my Nikon 24-70 non VR and im sure it was hair sharper especially at 70 2.8 but in the real world non VR really made me struggle at times. Good job tamron bring such a sick quality lens to the masses, its very very very hard to justify a 2800usd lens over this G2, especially for the people that dont make much or at all money from photography.
Thank you Dustin for making my nights easier. It was hunting me down that i did not test my nikon vs the tamron before i sold it, and was wondering if i made the wrong decision. Now i know my gut was right and have no regrets.
I'm glad it helps.
what about in camera lens correction ????? 5d mark 3 not support this lens and also they are not in lightroom
Where the Canon excels compared to the others seems to be corner sharpness at big aperture. But in reality, the only types of shots that requires sharp corners are landscape. As long as you're not shooting in the middle of the night, stepping down to f4 or smaller is not a problem. You would wanna do that anyway to reach longer depth of field.
With that in mind the choice is easy for me to go with the Tamron. Stabilizer (that actually makes real world difference) + cheaper pricetag
That's fair.
Great video. Does VC work with IBIS when using on R5?
It is basically impossible to separate the lens VC from the camera stablization. You turn off one and they both turn off. I suspect they work together to some degree, but it's impossible to judge to what standard.
@@DustinAbbottTWI so turning the vc off also disabling ibis. Thank you
I really want that Tamron 24-70 G2. I have the G1 now, and I know this should be a big step up. It's just difficult to sell that G1 lens at the moment. Plus, I want to get Tamron 70-200 G2 first because that is the focal range I miss. I have 24-70 G1, 50 1.8g, Tamron 90 macro, Tamron 150-600 G2.
You are really supporting Tamron!
As a hobby, I think Tamron and Sigma are both great choices. For me the deciding factor was your 90 macro review. Since I’m buying Tamron macro, I want to stay in this eco system and utilize that tap-in console, though I haven’t done any tuning with it. 24-70 was a grey market deal, saved over a third over retail one a little over a year ago. 150-600 g2 was a Newegg promotion, regulat price plus tax, but comes with $300 GC from Newegg it came to about $150-170 cheaper than from Adorama. The pattern here for me is to buy the best deal.
Mr Dustin, thank you for your in depth review. I had a question for you. Some people are complaining about the focusing of the tamron g2 . Specifically some are complaining that the middle focus point does not focus in the middle. The focus gets shifted a little bit.
Are you aware of any such problem? Or did you face any while using your tamron g2 lens ?
Please let me know.
I can't really say that I saw that issue. I think that proper calibration with the Tap In solves most all the focus issues in the Tamron lenses I've tested or used in the past few years.
Hello Dustin, correct me if i am wrong , but what you're saying is that thanks to the VC for real world use the tamron is the better choice....??
That's the point, particularly if you are using a high resolution body.
Dustin Abbott
Not very high.... 5d mark 3... but still... i think that especially in low light situations like some events or weddings where you have only seconds at some times , the vc from the tam has more benefits than the canon with a littlebit more edge sharpness.... at least thats what i think..... you helped me choose once again! Thank you!
Thank you for this very through review!
You're welcome.
It's always interesting to watch your thorough and thoughtful reviews of lenses, Dustin, even when the lenses are not ones that I am considering at the moment! :) A quick question that is not related to this review: In your reviews of both the recently released 35mm (F1.4) Zeiss Milvus, and the earlier Milvus 85mm (F1.4) and Milvus 50mm (F1.4), did you notice a marked difference in colour saturation among them? I want to purchase one of these three for lanscape photography, (even though I know the 85 is not as suited to landscape use). Thanks again.
Zeiss really excels at providing consistent color performance (always excellent!) across their lens line. No one does optics quite as well as them. PS -an 85mm is actually a fabulous landscape choice in a lot of settings.
Thanks again, Dustin. I was considering the 85mm Zeiss Milvus instead of the 50mm Zeiss Milvus, although another much cheaper possibility for a quality middle prime is the Voigtlander 58mm SL II s. (Then I could stick with the planned Milvus 35mm F1.4 at the wide end, and the brilliant Zeiss Apo Sonnar 135mm F2 at the other, and an empty bank account! :)) Looking forward to your forthcoming reviews.
I was litterly going crazy when i was looking for a 24-70 lens for my sony a7rii and i bought the tamron lens at first but was changes my mind and did returning it and bought canon 24-70 2.8 II insteed. Really Nice video! Looks like i did the right Choice.
The A7r II solves the stabilization problem, so you probably did make the right choice.
if the price was the same, is the G master as sharp as the canon with adapter ?
Hamza Benarafa I would say the Sony is a bit better on some focal lengths, the Sony is newer and more modern. It really depends on whether you get a good copy of the lens.
I have question for you , i do think tamron is great lens but how do i fix problem canon cameras not supporting in camera lens correction ? or i dont see this lens in adobe lightroom. So if i shoot wedding and have 500 photos is that means that i need every single photo to process and fix with manual lens profile correction ???? this is very confusing. i would rather get canon then if i need to fix every single photo individually to fix distortion or vinyetting or whatever . help with this please
Great review Dustin, thanks! Any of you have problems with 3rd party lenses on new bodies of Canon? I mean, right now, it's okay, but later when Canon introduces new bodies, then it starts the problem (focusing, etc?)
That's the reason that Tamron and Sigma have their USB dock/Tap In Consoles. They allow quick firmware updates that help keep lenses compatible.
Thank you again for a very insightful review! I'm getting closer in making a decision between canon or tamron. There is just one thing I just need to know between those 2 lenses; the autofocus speed and hunting at different focal length and well-lit and low light conditions. It's quite a big thing for events or semi-action/action photography in indoors or on outdoors.
I shot them side by side in identical situations and frankly didn't really see a difference. My gut would say that the Canon would be the most reliable, but I didn't actually see that.
Dustin Abbott my basis for my question regarding autofocus speed and accuracy at lowlight is this very short video. ruclips.net/video/fKyi6j58Okc/видео.html The only difference is that this is based on a video comparison rather than taking a picture
Interesting. I didn't compare the Tamron to the Canon in that kind of setting, but it was definitely better than the older Tamron 24-70 VC and Sigma 24-70 ART when I compared them.
Thanks again, Dustin! Great review. The handheld tests almost made me giddy. I'm super eager to get the Tamron. It'll be the first pro lens in my kit. But I still don't know if it holds up on a crop sensor camera. Are you still planning on looking at that?
As I said before, I bought the Tamron 70-300... admittedly a much cheaper lens. Given Tamron's reputation recently, I was expecting a really decent lens. Not pro.. but decent. It was really soft on the APS-C. (I wasted an an air show on that lens before I realized it. The photos are good as long as you don't look close.)
I rented the Canon 70-300 and, while it was comparable on the full frame, it blew away the Tamron on the crop sensor. Now, admittedly, comparing the cheaper lenses are like apples and turnips but.. burn me once.. shame on me. You know.
If you have both lenses in hand, you can save me the trouble (and cost) of renting them both to find out before I make the purchase.
Of course, if anyone else here knows... feel free to chime in.
Thanks, Chris
Chris, if you look at my written review I cover APS-C briefly (on both an 80D and a Sony a6500). bit.ly/2470DA
Oh. I'm sorry. I did look before I asked but I missed it. Thank you very much!
Am I wrong in assuming that the Tamron has better transmission? I am seeing higher shutter speeds for the same exposure.
It's my opinion that it has the best light transmission of the bunch.
Thanks for the review! got the tamron for 650$
Nice!
What's crazy is right now the Sigma lens on eBay is $1,079 and the Canon L 24-70 F2 .8 is $1,249! The basically about $160 more for the Canon when's which appears to be way way better. They used to be a huge gap in these prices but the cannon has went way down. I would prefer to have the RF but I don't have $3,000
L Mark 1 or L Mark 2? There's a big difference between those two lenses.
Dear Dustin
Thanks yet again for an Awesome vid.
Which lens are you going to purchase/keep for your own pro/personal use? :)
Cheers from DK
I sold my 24-70 earlier this year with the plan to replace it with the G2 version, but while using my 35L II as a "replacement", I found I didn't really miss a 24-70 all that much. So, for now, I'm using the 35L II and 70-200 G2 for events and weddings.
Dustin, how about using a pair of the EF 16-35mm f/2.8 III L and EF 85mm f/1.4 IS L USM (coming in november), instead of a 35L II + 70-200G2 ?
( can we use a Wide Zoom + stabilised Tele-Prime, rather than a Wide Prime + stabilised Tele-Zoom ? )
since Sony A7 bodies have IBIS, a GMaster 16-35/2.8 would give better IQ in lowlight handheld, than 16-35 L III + 5D4
(esp. for someone who doesn't like the extra weight of Tamron 15-30VC)
One solution for a Rich Shooter (Pro or Amateur) is maintaining 3 or 4 Systems concurrently :
Sony A7III (rumored) + 12-24/4G or Fuji X-T2 + 8-16mm f/2.8 (coming soon) (UWA Zooms, both are lighter than 11-24L & 12-24 ART)
Canon 5D4 + 35L II + 85L IS
Nikon D850 + 70-200E (even if it is twice expensive than Tamron G2)
even i don't like the limited range of 24-70 and feel that i could do without it, by having a two body set-up with two lenses, one prime and one zoom, or both primes.
regards, thanks.
Hi Dustin, May i know which lens is more quiet zooming and focusing?
The Tamron, though not by a wide margin.
thanx Again Dustin, this has been very helpful
+Akiss Paraskevopoulos Glad to hear it
Hi sir I am still confused sigma 24-70 art Vs Tamron 24-70 G2 which one should I go ?
I would definitely choose the Tamron over the Sigma
Great review! But in all honesty, which of the 3 would you pick? and is Image stabilization really important?
Would appreciate if you would answer this. subbed too.
If you shoot handheld, IS is very important. If you shoot with a higher megapixel body handheld, it is doubly important. The Canon is the sharpest lens of the three, but becomes less sharp handheld in some situations because of lacking IS. The Tamron is the most well rounded of the three.
Thanks for the reply, I shot the 70-200 on a 1/30 and photos came out sharp with no blurring at all. I guess I can say I'm safe without the IS? or probably was just lucky?, I'm really torn between the mkII or just settlign down for the mkI, for the mean time I shoot with a 6D mkII, but I'm about to get a 5d mkIII (mkIV is out of the question).
That sounds very lucky, to me.
is there any image stabilization test done with canon 24-70 on R5/R6 handheld. would like to know if the IBIS helps while shooting at shutter speed less than 1/100 and get a better hit ratio compared to the non IBIS body.
You definitely will see a major difference with an IBIS equipped body. I don’t really see any tangible difference between using it there or a lens with IS.
Hi Dustin, for the same price, I would love to hear your thoughts between the Canon mk2 (2nd hand) and RF24-105 (new, F4, IS, no adaptor needed on Eos RP)
It would be hard to vote against the Canon 24-70L II in that scenario. It's the more excellent performer.
@@DustinAbbottTWI Hi Dustin, thanks for the reply. It's still a hard call for me on the investment point of view since the new RF lineup seems incredible. I'll just have to rethink haha
I am on the fence whether the Tamron G2 vs Sigma Art 24-70. Do you find the Tamron with the reverse direction Zoom ring hard to get used to? (opposite direction to turn to zoom from Canon and Sigma models)...This has been holding me back a bit as I do weddings and events full time and not sure that would be a problem for me to get used to....Thanks for the great reviews...
Philip
Philip - that seems to be a big deal for some people and not at all for others. I use so many different lenses that I think my brain just skips right over that (I don't notice it at all). Some people really do. So, as they say, YMMV.
Thanks for the fast reply Dustin....Disregarding the zoom ring issue, which would in your opinion be a better choice. I will use with my 5D4 and 5D3 models....
I think the Tamron is probably the more complete lens, though I do like the Sigma
Your input appreciated....thanks....
One important question I forgot to ask Dustin...(Probably the most important for weddings). Which lens has the fastest and most accurate focus. Having one lens slightly sharper to me is not as important as nailing the focus fast and accurate even, if it means the lens is slightly less sharp with the optics. Thanks as always and happy shooting......
Philip
And what about speed and accuracy of autofocus comparing Tamron and Canon?
I saw part one that you prove that tamron is a better choice than the sigma.
Focus speed is about the same. I didn't have time to do an intense accuracy test. I already have WAY too much time invested in these comparisons!
Canon's 24-70 Lii has remarkable MTF curves. I have both the Canon and the Nikon 24-70e VR, and the Canon overrules the Nikon...
+Yizchal Levi You can see evidence of that particularly in the first episode. It has great real world sharpness
Question, were these lens' AF micro-adjusted? I picked up the Tamron and I'm finding it a little soft. It could be me. So I also got the Tap-in Console, but find it a little daunting to use.
Yes, although most of these tests were done via Live View (which doesn't require calibration and eliminates that from the equation). You might want to check out my playlist on doing lens calibration here: ruclips.net/p/PLwWFV2kake9GfVSsVx4pJQ0-9KlccQXB0
Which of the 3 would be best when it comes to sports or action photography? Im wondering how the autofocus will do on Tamron and Sigma when capturing a moving object. Is there hunting or does the focus latch on quite smoothly?
I would say the Canon is the best best, followed by the Tamron and then the Sigma.
@@DustinAbbottTWI thanks for the response. I found a pretty good deal on eBay for the Tamron. Can’t wait to try it.
@@hectrhurt if you bought the tamron g2
How was your experience with it? Do you recommend it for wedding photography??
thank for your video
You are welcome
I shoot 35mm film and don't scan large, the differences are negligible to me.
That's true under your circumstance.
It is been said that the Canon 24-70mm mk2 not stabilized at 1,700 dollars destroyed the new tamron G2 stabilized lens, 1,200 dollars, whats your opinion ? I find myself that i do not need stabilization for 70mm and less.......
I think if you watch this series you will see that "destroyed" is definitely not accurate.
will do
Thank you for the hard work u put on those images by showing the real world test but why not try for human subjects especially for the wider aperture and higher apertures for the shots of those wooden stuffs.
Just a thought.
Human targets move, which make them less reliable for formal tests.
Ahhhh! What'd you do to your mic setup? It used to be perfect but now it sounds like I'm listening to an echo chamber or something! >_
Not quite sure what you are referring to. I'm mostly using my Rode mic in the last month as I've developed a few glitches in the Crystal Clip.
Perhaps you are referring just to the opening segment, which has more to do with the acoustics of the room (all hard surfaces).
At 4:18 or so, you say that the Canon has better (greater) contrast in the center compared to the Tamron. I disagree. On my calibrated monitor, I clearly see better contrast for the Tamron.
Hi Mike - just remember that I'm working with the originals and have a lot of experience with this. The difference isn't significant, for sure.
Man, as a Nikon shooter i would just love to see your fantasic real world reviews on the dark side also. :) I guess i'm not the only one.. :)
I don't plan to do regular Nikon reviews, but I've been chatting with a photographer who wants to loan me his new D850 for a review. We'll see...
Yeah, i see that you are busy enough without Nikon gear. Just hoping it, maybe in the future. Your content is so great, that i wouldn't mind to even pay some euros for it. I'm sure that i'm not the only one. :) Hmm. need to think that patreon thing..
The reason for even willing to pay something, is that your content really is _valuable_ for me. It gives new perspective to many things about the photo scenery (as a pro you share lot of your insights simultaneously during your reviews), and it also helps to plan future purchases. I feel that i have learned about photography, some Canadian culture, and language skills also. You are some of the nicest RUclips persons also. I like your analytic and discreet style. :) So i'm happy, that i can choose your content, and idon't need to watch Jared Polin's or Angry photographers content for example. xD
Excellent! Thank you! 30k subs soon! :)
Looks like it!
i was wondering if u got anther sigma 24-70 would it be different?.u prolly got a bad version
My results are consistent with that of other reviewers, nor has anyone at Sigma raised that issue in my conversations with them.
Sir, can you test the Tamron G2 at 70mm close headshot range to see if it has severe focus breathing compared to the Canon? I heard that the G2 used the same optical formula as the G1 and the G1 had severe focus breathing at close range.
Edit: www.mobile01.com/newsdetail/22593/24-70mm-f2-8-canon-nikon-sigma-sony-tamron-tokina
It seems that the Nikon seems to be the closest out of all 24-70s in this link, then the Sony, but this not being a lab test I'm not sure if it was the model moving or not as I don't read Chinese.
+Grape Jam I didn’t see any evidence of focus breathing at any focal length. I tested it against a LOT of lenses.
if you have a steady hand you will always get a sharper image with a lens without OS.....
That's actually the exact opposite of true.
NO, thats an opinion, which happens to be factual..........
I have very controversial thoughts for the tamron. I've bought it two months ago. I`ve notice significant change in focus ability when use some of the far side focus points on my 5d iv body. Like the center far side right for example. The focus area is out of focus and blurry every time. This is strongly pronounced at 24 mm wide open at 2 meters distance and is no matter on a tripod, handheld or with microadjusments made to the lens. It just shoot like that all the time. I hope is just a bad copy ... i`ll test a new one.
+Венелин Братанов Are you saying that it focuses accurately in the center, but not on the far edge points? But that wasn’t the case initially? If that’s true, you may need to have it checked out, as that doesn’t seem like normal behavior
Yes. That is the situation. It focus accurately at center , but not accurate on the far edge points. Thank you Dustin. I have not explain the whole situation right i guess. It doesn't seem normal to me either. I didn't have that kind of a problem before. Anyway maybe is a bad copy after all.
+Венелин Братанов Contact Tamron in your country and get feedback from them. You may need to send it back to them.
I have always got best results with native lenses 😊
I know what you're saying, but there are so many good third party lenses these days.
*** And Still don't know whether going with 24-70 G2 and risk of front/back focus issues, or with the expensive nikon 24-70E VR which is less sharp :( ***
If you experience significant front or back focus issues, you can always return the lens or send it to Tamron for calibration. I think it is worth the risk.
No surprise for me. Even the comparison between the Canon and the Tamron mark I is in real world a little the same. Canon should ad IS.
I would think that HAS to be on their agenda, particularly with them adding higher resolution to a lot of new bodies.
And a 24-70 mm zoom lens is a all round lens, not a zoom you like to use on a tripod.
Exactly right.
Awesome 👌🏼👌🏼👌🏼👌🏼👌🏼
Thank you!
A lesson learned: The impracticality for many purposes, off a tripod use, of non-stabilized lenses for camera bodies like Canon's that do not have in camera stabilization that include Sigma's Prime lenses and some of their zoom lenses. Even more impractical are Zeiss Lenses that are manual focus only. Given the shaky financial footing for both Nikon and to a lesser extent Sony it is hard to imagine dumping thousands or tens of thousands into an ecosystem like Nikon or Sony (e.g, petapixel.com/2017/02/14/nikon-stock-plummets-15-extraordinary-loss-bombshell/ nofilmschool.com/2017/02/nikon-cancels-cameras-reports-losses-and-crashes-stock ) or system that changes models so fast that they can support all of them very far into the future (just check out experiences of lensrentals in repair turnaround and customer support). So unless Canon starts putting in camera stabilization into their cameras it seems you are greatly limiting unless you can shoot at very fast shutter speeds to nullify camera shake issues.
It seems that Canon is starting to put out some more stabilized prime lenses, which I think is very smart...and necessary. I don't see them going the full on IBIS route.
This is one zoom where Canon simply can't justify the difference in price to the competition. If it wasn't for my horrible experience with Tamron quality before the redesign I wouldn't even consider the Canon.
Tamron’s build quality has vastly improved. I’ve used a number of their recent lenses professionally (and successfully) for a number of years.
Thank you Dustin, really like your reviews. In the end I've bought the Canon 24-70 2.8 ii as I don't afford to have any complication with focus issue or any other problem during a wedding. Canon is Canon and are top of the top for a reason :) Keep up the good work!
There's no doubt that is a great, reliable lens.
Canon more robust and durability
+ANAK WATAN I honestly think that is very debatable at this point. The Tamron definitely feels better made, and uses better materials. It has better weather sealing. Whether it is more durable over the long haul remains to be seen
Dustin Abbott yup. You hv the point, however lately i did occured problems with my sigma 50mm f1.4 and 18-35mm f1.8 which have missfocused issues and mulfunction during wedding shooting😣.
The lighting and clothing you choose for some of your videos is starting to bug me...it bothers my eyes.