Yea, some have mentioned this... it's a great review on VR etc, however this review fails to mention Tamron's biggest flaw. The biggest reason to go Nikon over Tamron is how often the Tamron misses focus. Also, if you shoot with continuous focus, the Tamron does terribly. Nikon is twice the price, but when you're shooting something important like a wedding, I can't tell my clients that my gear prevented me from getting the shot.
K B87 I have both the lenses you mention. How can you compare them to each other ??? One starts where the other stops !! And is twice the size !!. And as for shooting wildlife. The Nikon is awesome and an absolute out and out bargain for the price. The Tamron is nice but a focal length of 200mm even on the D500 just isn’t close enough for most wildlife photography.
Yes this is most important thing actually. I have 15-30 G2 and it also misses, however at those focal lengths you can usually get away with slightly out of focus image, especially if 2.8 is not used or camera to subject distance is a bit larger. But on 24-70 I must expect at least 95% of shots in focus or I can't rely on such lens for important tasks.
The Sigma OIS needs to be set (configured to operate by shutter half press) with their docking station, that's why it appeared not to be working. By default the Sigma OIS is configured to only operate as you're taking the picture to conserve battery.
So nice to see a review with an actual conclusion and recommendation. Too many reviewers are afraid to tick off sponsors or alienate viewers with hedged recommendations. Nice job here FS!
Yes! I own a Tamron, after trying out the Sigma for a week. I wasn't happy at all with that lens. The G2 is a major improvement and definitly the best choice. Great review btw. Keep it up!
@@duckhanhpham4753 It's 3 years in the future now and I sold my Tamron a year ago and went with native Nikon 24-70mm f/2.8E and 70-200mm f/2.8E FL... Again, worlds apart from the Tamron..
@@breylankemp7596 Not in my opinion. I'm a full time professional. I used the Tamron G2 to my satisfaction for over a year before my serious work. I then switched to the Nikon 24-70mm f/2.8E about 1.5 years ago. I'll tell you: there's no better F mount version available than that one. I use it on a D500 and a Z6II + FTZ. The only lens better than that E-version is the S-line version for the Z-mount. Feel free to check out my work at www.tpjverhoeven-photography.com
@@Zifiron thank you for the response I usually lean towards the tamrons I've had the gen 1 70-200mm f2.8 for 6 plus years and it's as sharp as ever need to upgrade to the g2 tho.
I've had the "G1" tamron until it broke from a hard fall... The G2 version looks nicer and noticed some other minor improvements. Tamron is doing quite well..
I couldn't care less how my lens looks like. All I care about is how well they work for me. Nikon is a great lens. Sigma has some stabilisation problems. I haven't tried Tamron yet but I guess I'll go with Nikon. Good video. Well explained.
Thanks, i am getting one for the holidays, was on the fence, but so many people are praising the tamron for value and goodness for 99% of photos, Have the 70-200 already..
There is one huge problem for me with the Sigma and Tamron lenses. I'm a sport photographer, shooting quite often in bad weather conditions. I can't imagine myself shooting with Sigma and Tamron, both lenses extend when zooming in and out... so do Nikon, but Nikon does that under the lens hood! Shooting with Sigma and Tamron in the rain at 70mm you will get your lens wet and when you zoom in back to 24mm all that moisture goes inside the lens! I'm not sure how well they are weather sealed but I don't think it's good when water gets pulled inside the lens. Nikon... different story, first of all the lens doesn't extend a lot (just around 18mm) and it's all covered by the lens hood! Winner for me every single wet day! :)
My only issue with the Nikon is the fact its a little to close to the end at 24mm. Fine at 70mm but often get spots at 24mm. Sacrifice i suppose for having the wide option. amazing lens though
I bought the Tamron 24-70mm G2 and had focus problems with my D800. Sent the D800 and lens to Tamron fo calibration. Camera and lens came back working great.
And don't forget the TAP-In Console allows for profiling: optimize the VC for video, change the manual focus override attenuation to rack slower or faster. Save the video profile for later. Another advantage.
The sigma is weather sealed, what are you on about link: cameradecision.com/lenses/faq/is-the-Sigma-24-70mm-F2.8-DG-OS-HSM-Art-Canon-EF-a-Weather-Sealed-lens
I own a Sigma lens with OS and when I first got it I recall the instructions stating that the OS doesn't work that quickly to just switch on. I believe it was recommended once switching on you had to wait about a minute for it too kick in after half depressing the shutter but I guess it could also had been defective.
I know this video is dated by two years but I own the Tamron SP 24-70mm f/2.8 Di VC USD G2 , and the Tamron SP 70-200mm f/2.8 Di VC USD G2 , using them on Nikon D7100, D7200, D750 and a D810. The reviews here are great and I would agree, but in my eyes, hands down, the Tamron versions are the best bang for the buck. I shoot fashion, real estates and some landscape. Absolutely love them and while I did my own reviews as well, the Sigmas were not even in the running or an option for me. As far as Nikon, the reviews here are accurate but no need to spend or waste extra money on for the brand name "Nikon" printed on the lenses.
What about bokeh, chromatic and coma aberration, flare and ghosting, distortion etc. ? There's a lot more that goes into a lens optical characteristic than "how sharp it is".
How about *actual build quality, I,m talking about quality of internal construction...what grade of aluminum and plastic? How well are the focus motors built? How precise is the machining? know you can’t tell that just by looking at the lens. Will the lenses stand up to hard use over a long time? It has been my experience that Nikon will definitely hold up. The Tamron and Sigma used to be junk lenses. I’m not saying they still are but no one has proven they are just as good as Nikon yet.
@@cavebeastdemon3631 the art series and g2 series are solid, as is the native glass from sony, canon, and nikon. photographers like to flick their lenses and complain about how plasticy it is, and then pull out their precision steel dumbells machined in germany in the 80s to show what "real" lenses are suppose to be like. there hasnt been any major recall on any of the latest generation of lenses.
Regarding the studio color test, I think there could be another explanation: I think the Nikon isn't more "telephoto" as you're saying, but the Tamron and Sigma both have severe focus breathing. The first generation Tamron had the same problem and I read a test that the G2 has even more problems with focus breathing. Try shooting a landscape on 70mm with these three lenses and they will probably look the same. But when you're shooting an object at close distance the Tamron and Sigma probably aren't 70mm anymore.
I think the IS on Sigma wasn't working at all. Maybe it doesn't work on video, it just tries to compensate stills. Also, if I recall it right, Nikon fixed focus breathing issues on their new lenses. So the focal length was right on Nikon and wider than it should on other two. Both of those test shots were at quite short distance. Fixing focus breathing also makes lenses longer, which would explain Nikon lens size too.
Thank you for that VC test. I sent a lens back specifically FOR this reason, in exchange for the version with the VC. My fears have been validated with the shake test. Cost me 200 bucks more, but totally worth it.
I was planning on buying the Sigma (Which looks stylish to me and the other ART series lenses are awseome) but watching this video I'm definately buying the Tamron because I mostly do videos and I'll be needing a good VC/OS/VR. Thanks a lot Mr. Morris (and @Fstoppers) for this awesome in-depth honest review
It is a pity an AF speed and accuracy test wasn't done. That is the area the Nikon should be streaks ahead of the other 2 lenses but it would have been nice to see the comparison.
Don't underestimatie the AF speed of modern Sigma lenses. Many times they are as fast as Nikon en Canon counterparts. Sometimes they are even faster (Sigma 135/1.8 is very fast and also the 85Art is faster than the competition).
The Nikkor 27-70mm f/2.8 VR has Nikons latest version of their silent wave motor, which is meant to be exceptionally fast and accurate. Sigma's can be very hit and miss when it comes to autofocus, with a lot of people complaining that they have had issues gaining accurate focus, though it can be improved dramatically when calibrated using Sigmas docking station. My former assistant has the Sigma 85mm f/1.4 art and it is a good lens but I didn't find the AF particularly stood out against the competition (though it does focus faster than my Zeiss 85mm Milvus :P).
The Nikon version (unfortunately) is far better in AF speed. I hate this lens for its ugly bokeh and distortion, but it is indeed the fastest even compared to its previous predecessor.
The Nikon’s VR looks fantastic. My guess is the reason it’s like that when you break away is due to panning. I bet they purposely worked it in there like that, especially since it looked like only the horizontal axis was allowed to move and the vertical axis was still locked. Good video, really clears it up and makes the decision easy.
This was super helpful, was considering the sigma, but after watching this vid, only gonna consider tamron and nikkor. IMO nikkor would be the winner here, but in terms of cost, efficiency and quality tamron wins
A great review! I have bought tamron 70-200 and it’s actually a very descent lens, I’m happy enough with it. Now can see its little brother 24-70 totally worth the G2 generation, very well done tamron
My opinion is that the reason you buy and F/2.8 is to have the ability to shoot sharper images in low light situations at f/2.8. For this reason alone I would have to go with the Nikon. The Tamron is greater than the Nikon at f/8 and at VR or VR, but if that's the case then you may as well just get a nice kit lens with VC or VR and shoot at f3.5 and up. If the lens you buy is a constant f2.8 then it should perform excellent at f2.8:) I'm only speaking in terms of this lens shootout and deciding which one to buy. Great comparison video though!
There is not necessarily anything wrong with the Sigma IS. It might be that, by default, the IS only kicks in when you take a picture (that's the case on my Sigma 150-600). On that lens it can be changed by using the dock.
Concerning the optical stabilization on the Sigma, I just bought one a week ago and happened across this video. The possibility of it being no good at that feature concerned me (not a lot, but some...). I just did a quick, similar test (only the Sigma, don't have the other two lenses) at 70mm and using the video feature (Nikon D750). I appear to get the same results as Fstoppers; no significant change between the OS being turned on or off, whether I was holding the camera steady (handheld) or purposefully shaking it. That said, I didn't think there was that much shake in the image to begin with (at 70mm), at least while I was standing still. Seemed like the posted video could have been held better, but he was consistent throughout the 3 lenses. But I'm more concerned with how the stabilization works with STILL photography, which is what I would use it for 95% of the time anyway. Testing for that, I sat in my office chair, zoomed to 70mm, focused on some cabinet knobs about 18-20 foot away. I tried a test, on Manual, at 1/30s, f/4.5, and then 1/15s, f/6.3, shooting 4 consecutive frames each with and w/o the OS turned on. CONSISTENTLY I had motion blur when I zoomed into the center of my image NOT using the OS, some worse than others, especially at 1/15s. AND consistently I had almost identically sharp, at least MUCH sharper, images when the OS was turned on. There was a marked difference. So the OS on the SIGMA may indeed suck for video shooting however I found it a worthwhile feature for still imagery. Note, most of my lenses are Nikon, always just wanting to buy the "brand" name since I didn't trust competitors. However I think my old mindset of what those competitors were like in decades past is quite outdated. Nikon (and Canon) have serious competition out there for both IQ and pricing. I bought a used Tamron 90mm macro a year ago and, especially for the $400 price, have been blown away by it's image quality. I still love Nikon, but they need to be more competitive in their pricing in my opinion or suffer more losses in their market share.
Thanks a lot for doing the test and posting the results. I was about to dismiss the Sigma. In case you see this, could you share your long-term experience with the lens?
Hey +Fstoppers - I'm not a Sigma fanboy by any means, but I've played with the 24-70 f/2.8 ART lens in-store and the OS functioned waaayyy better than your copy. Rather, my issues were with extremely poor sharpness across the frame wide open, and even poor corner sharpness at f/5.6. I have the 50-100 f/1.8 for my D500 and it performs quite well, but if shooting wide open, I typically have to fight off loads of chromatic aberration outside of the center of the frame. For similar reasons to yours, I am fully in support of the Tamron G2 lenses. AF is quite fast and silent, images look wonderful (I can live with the "onion ring" effect on out of focus highlights), and the VC is incredible. Further, those lenses are lighter than their Nikon counterparts, and both the 24-70 f/2.8 G2 and 70-200 f/2.8 G2 can be had, with good UV filters, for the price of Nikon's 70-200 f/2.8E FL ED lens. Nikon's prices on their glass are ridiculous; I can live with a company name really close to a feminine hygiene product and a little bit of focus breathing for half the cost of name brand gear... Lastly, Tamron's 85 f/1.8 with VC is mindblowingly good; it left me spitting mad for not picking one up when I had the money before. Were it a little less expensive, I'd go for it, but that 24-70 f/2.8 G2 will be mine first. Nice review and thanks!
I really like the gold on the Nikon lenses. To me, the all white lettering makes the lens look cheap. But, what do I know, I’m an old fogey that bought my first SLR (Nikon FE) in 1979. Great review and channel.
Tamron is the price point to match as this budget manufacturer has made incredible strides over the past 5 years in the sharpness and background bokeh (blur). I either own or shoot with every major lens out there. I do not have a problem revealing that Tamron lenses can give you the same results as shooting full frame using Sony sensors and Nikon glass. I shoot manual focus so the Tamron can still keep you honest--I get slightly less image stabilization. I use Tamron lenses strictly for portraiture. The cream in the background, the texture and every vein of the eyeballs and colors that actually pop and are never muddied are all screaming that this Tammy's for you!
I just prefer the Nikon for one reason. The barrel is protected by the hood. When zooming I just feel better protected against elements and don’t fear bumping into objects because it’s always the same size and I can’t understand why other manufacturers don’t see this.
(1) Great review, tackling real usage issues (e.g. ergonomics). (2) FOCUS BREATHING!!! The reason that you found the Nikon has more magnification than the other two at 70mm (at close distances) is that the Sigma and Tamron exhibit "focus breathing". That is, when you focus at infinity with lens set at 70mm, you get 70mm, BUT when you focus closer, you no longer get 70mm. You might get 55mm or even 50mm. This will not matter to many people but it might be a HUGE issue for an event photographer photographing people at 8 or 10 feet, for example. 70mm is already marginally long for complimentary compression on a face at half body and 50 or 55mm on a full frame sensor is not long enough for a complimentary half body portrait unless you step back and plan to crop. That is, to use the Tamron or Sigma and get complimentary portraits, you will need to step back, plan to crop and lose some resolution. Not a disaster, not by a long shot, but it's a workflow complication in both shooting and in editing. (3) Agree about black/silver being sharper look than Nikon gold. (4) Tamron being "loose zoom" could mean focal length slippage when you hold camera by your side. (5) Video stabilization test is jaw dropping. (6) You might want to add a video testing focus speed, focus reliability, and perhaps tracking in continuous mode. Overall this is a very unusually well done video test, and time efficient too. Thanks!
I will get the Nikon 24-70 anytime though it is the most expensive one of the three and bigger. Optics and image quality over the other two. And it zoom is internal so will not suck in air while you zoom. Which means the lens is less likely to grow fungus and trap moisture within. This is through experience. Here in my country Singapore hot and humid all year round - my Nikon 85mm prime macro and 50mm prime G never get any fungus, while all my other zooms (no matter the brand) now has traces of fungus in the lens. Maintenance, cleaning and even replacements of affected lens cost more over time than a single purchase.
There is another video that tests this. Tamron's autofocus from one end to infinity is near instant. Sigma's is a slight slower. I honestly don't know about the Nikon.
I'd like to provide some advice to anyone who watches this and is looking to buy a 24-70 for nikon. I went with this reviews recommendation and bought the Tamron. It's worked decently well, but I have several complaints. The outside of the lens is horribly constructed, I have scrapes and marks all over the lens hood and lens body and have not been overly rough with it, it started getting scraped up the moment I took it out of the box. Even the section that zooms out got scuffed up just from zooming in and out. The focus out of box is something you should be very very wary of. Mine is off, I'm going through the process to try to fix the focus but I don't expect much improvement due to how inconsistent it can be. I've missed several shots in lighting situations that should be just fine just because the lens is not consistent or fast. Don't get me wrong, it is usable and gets decently close, but it was to the point of off where I thought sharpness just wasn't achievable in a camera until I got a nikon lens and shot with it. I took a shot with an 85mm 1.4 and I could see my reflection in the eye of my subject. I took a picture with the tamron and it's almost like there's gauze over the image. The focus ring is almost unusable to manually focus if needed as well, it's extremely thin and inconsistently loose or tight. The lens seems to be very dark, I don't have a number to quantify but I'd guess somewhere around a half stop to dark. That may not sound like a lot, but I shoot at night, indoor, and do astrophotography quite a bit and it's very very frustrating. The lens sits loose in the mount, not enough to make it fall out or anything crazy like that, but it's very noticeable. The front element attracts dust like crazy. The lens cap gets loose and squeaky after a week or two of use. The switches are not to be trusted, if you put this into your bag, make 100% sure the switches are where you want them when you take them out. Just now I went out to shoot and realized that my VC switch had been turned off the whole time. In summation, this was my very first full frame lens. It's worked decently well, and I didn't understand what I was missing until I used a piece of nikon glass. It can get you started, but if you buy this lens do tamron'a autofocus fine tune the second you pull it out of the box. A lot of my early shots are just not sharp anywhere I want them to be, not enough for most people to notice but enough to effect image quality in my mind. I'm still going to use it, probably until I save enough to get the nikon 24-70 and maybe even after just for the form factor, but I'm not going to trust it and I'm not going to be using it nearly as much. If you need a 24-70, be wary. It'll work, but it's not fantastic and it's not something to rely on.
You did a review on a Tamron 24-70 a couple years back when I was considering buying the Canon 24-70. I was sold on the vibration stabilization aspect of that lens, and how you said you used it for (what did you call it, Fusion?) mixing video and still in your wedding photography. I used it a lot in a wedding I shot, and the stabilization was so good, i was able to follow the bride down a staircase with a very smooth video.... not to mention how you can shoot at some very ridiculously slow speeds in low light and have amazingly sharp images. Thank you Fstoppers, you guys have been an inspiration all the way for me.
I own the Nikon and it is a MONSTER! in both senses of the word. It takes awesome photos but it is huge compared to its predecessor and difficult to maneuver in crowds.
The vr in the tamron kept jerking even when you never shook it, the Nikon was smooth. Also i give alot of weight to the Nikon for no focus breathing, which you didn't really touch on.
I remember this was the first Fstoppers video I watched. I've watched tons of reviews from different channels and I can say, this is one of the very few channels that produce objective honest reviews. If there's any channel I won't miss checking before buying, it would definitely be Fstoppers. More power to y'all!
I think the reason you say the nikon is more telephoto is simply because the lens is built to reduce "focus breathing" where when you focus to a subject closely the actual fov get wider if it's not corrected. Nikon 24-70 and 70-200 are built to reduce this as much as possible. I have a 70-200 mm where the 200 mm end become 135 mm when I focus closely where my old canon 70-200 mm would stay very close to 200 mm when use close to a subject. For this reason if I was planning on doing portrait a lot with the 24-70 (I don't use a 24-70 for portrait personally) I would pay the price to get the nikon. Else the tamron is the best choice here. I have the pentax version of the tamron 24-70 mm and it's an incredible lens that doesn't leave the camera often. On ff sensor a good 24-70 mm f2.8 is a must.
My Tamron 70-200 f2.8 g1 is a phenomenal lens. Bought it grey market for $900, and not one single problem in over two years and thousands of shots. Only complaints are minimum focus distance and its inability to select focus range, as it can blow out the entire image into mad bokeh at 200mm close focus (something you'd want to limit it to close focus)
Very few people know this but Sigma release an firmware update last year for the 24-70 Art that correct the performance of the OS. Before the update, the OS only kicks in when the shot was taken, to preserve battery I guess. But after the update, the OS will keep on going when you compose the shot or half press shutter. That's why some other RUclips review actually think the Sigma OS is better(because they compare the OS by the photo they took). Good for photo photographer, but bad for filmmaker. i had mine sent to the local store for firmware update, worked perfectly ever since.
Nobody ever stops down a 24-70 you only buy it to shoot it wide open, the reality is that with exceptions it is always better to buy a good used Nikon than a new third party lens. You are on your own 2 years from now with them.
When it comes to reliability, Nikon lenses consistently stand out. Their superior focus sets them apart from the competition, making them the go-to choice for many photographers. Think of Nikon as the Lexus and Toyota of the camera world-renowned for their dependability and precision. Canon, on the other hand, is akin to Honda and Acura-reliable and respected, but often not quite at the same pinnacle of performance as Nikon.
Great review for me at exactly the right time so thanks for a warts and all review - I've just oredred the Tamron and looking forward to getting to use it !
Thank you for the the fantastic review and comparison; must say, it is one of the best. I like how you're not bias in anyway and that's what I like to see in a comparison review. Once again, thank you and you've made my choice of choosing the lens that much easier. I like to go with the Nikon but the price is just insane and I'm no pro, just a hobbyist.
Great review! I totally agree with your conclusion. I was one of those who believed I had to stick with Nikon lenses to get good quality. But after much research, I bought the Tamron and am very happy with it. 📷
cameraz99 I was thinking about the Nikon, how is the AF test on the Tamron tho? Isn't Nikon a lot faster and what about low light situations? Is it good? Focus hunting?
I only have the Nikon 24-120mm f4 to compare it to, but I'd say that this Nikon lens is a little sharper than the Tamron 24-70mm f2.8. Both seem to focus equally well in low light, but here again, the Nikon focuses a little faster -- but not enough to make a difference, IMO.
Well, if the looks matter, I actually like the Nikon Gold/Black theme. But curious, which VR mode did you use on the Nikon 24-70? And, what about the low light and AF speed performance? Thanks!
Sooooooo this was the most comprehensive straight to the point video on lenses I've ever seen can you all duplicate this with other lenses please... thanks
I've got Nikkor 24-70 non-VR. I've been using it for years now. Aside from new VR version, I believe it's the sharpest 24-70 lens you can get for your Nikon csmeras. However, mine is starting to show some signs of aging. Still works well though but feels like its time is coming. When it breaks, I probably won't pay high Nikon repair costs. Most likely I'll just get the new Tamron.
industry standard doesn't make something good. there are many products that are much higher rated and performing than industry standards in all fields. but sure, canon's lens, which is a great lens, is industry standard. according to you.
I have the old Tamron 24-70 and have shot many wedding with it and it has never let me down. It is a little slow to focus in low light and to me that is pretty important especially for the work I do. But it is manageable. Would love to know if the new version is better when it comes to focusing. Especially in low light, great review thanks.
I've just bought a D850. Already have the old school Nikon 35-70 F2.8 AF D. Ken Rockwell and the "angry guy" both rave about this lens. Looking forward to using it.
A fantastic comparison review; what Brough me to check out this video was I have a Sigma 17-50 2.8 EX HSM and accidentally drop it and crack the front ring. Focus does not work and I was looking for a 24-70 2.8 Yes between Canon, Tamron and Sigma. Luckily I found this Tamron 24-70mm f/2.8 G2 and I am getting it for only $700 from Craigslist and is a local seller. My point is, that this review gives me the assurance that I was getting the right lens for what I do Photo and Video. Thank you guy
My Canon 24-70mm f2.8 failed (connection error). Canon wanted $450 to repair. Instead, I replaced it with Tamron's G2. I did the research and the G2 does really well. So the deciding factor was a Tamron 6 year warranty! I saved $500 on less expensive Tamron G2 and got a 6 year warranty (peace of mind).
12:58 I'm guilty as charged, I've always just gone with whatever Nikon puts out as their premier lens in any given focal length. You're also right in that they, the 24-70 and the 70-200, look very similar on camera. I carry two camera bodies at the same time, one with the 24-70 and the other with the 70-200 and recently had a guest at an event come up to me and ask why I had two cameras with the same lenses on them? In fact, the 24-70 VR is heavier than my FL 70-200 lens. As for space used in the case, I don't care about that as I always use a huge gear bag, so that's not a consideration for me. I LOVE the VR on the 24-70, but I tend to use it in video mode wide and close to my moving subjects and it has saved me lost of stabilization work in post, as I can now use those sequences right out of the camera. The weight of the lens, also helps with handheld stabilization as your lens supporting hand is a tad farther from the body than with the shorter lens. As a working pro, the Tamron and Sigma lenses just don't get considered and maybe that's a personal flaw. I use my lenses daily in all weather and couldn't be happier as they have never failed.. you didn't comment on weather sealing, and I'm often in light rain and snowfall. Your starting comment about the Gold and Black, not being your favorite? It's one of the things I like about Nikon aethetics :) so very subjective. Your body language and intonation already dismiss the Nikon very early on and that's ok, but you're not being objective when you do that :) Love the video, thumbs UP of course!
Same here. Price is relative, what happens if you sell your lens a couple of years from now? Do you think your Sigma or Tamron lens will be very sought after? It's all about total cost of ownership, if you only look at the price tag the day you buy your lens, Nikon comes out as the most expensive, of course.
Hi Aredhel77 I hadn't thought about that, but you're right I have lots of friends who are happy to buy my used gear. I always send them in to NPS for cleaning and refurbishment and then sell it with the "Nikon Refurbished" sticker on the wrapper. I honestly have never considered using other brand lenses and I'm sure they are great, but I love my gear so don't feel the need to change it up. It's probably kind of a mistake for me to comment here, I knew it would possibly draw fire from those who may disagree.
Aredhel77 that's not even close to being true. For older 3rd party lenses with dodgy build quality, sure, but not the case anymore. They might even have a higher percentage of their initial price retained, but its about how much you spend (buy a $1000 lens and lose 20% vs a $2000 lense losing 15% would mean that you spent $300 ($100 more) compared to $200) For Nikon, you'd have to retain double the percentage of your initial investment to break even. Looking at both the last generation 70-200s (tamron vs Nikon), you'd save more with the tamron easily (tamron at $999 ($1399) Nikon at $1499 ($2099) both from b&h), and the tamrons price is artificially lowered due to its replacement costing $100 less than the outgoing model, unlike Nikons where it is so expensive the outgoing model is back ordered still when purchasing new. So no, buying Nikon doesn't save you money in the long run either, not to mention the fact that many have debt and the cost of interest makes the Nikon lenses even that more expensive. Most of my lenses are Nikon, but my one 3rd party lens changed my mind. I once though as you did, until I did actual research.
Nikon is 70mm, Tamron and Sigma about 50mm because of focal breathing. And I hate when part of lens moves out from lens body, looks ugly and you can get sand into the lens more easily. :)
Yea, some have mentioned this... it's a great review on VR etc, however this review fails to mention Tamron's biggest flaw. The biggest reason to go Nikon over Tamron is how often the Tamron misses focus. Also, if you shoot with continuous focus, the Tamron does terribly. Nikon is twice the price, but when you're shooting something important like a wedding, I can't tell my clients that my gear prevented me from getting the shot.
with regards to wildlife i find the tamron 70-200 very good vs my nikon 200-500.
K B87 I have both the lenses you mention. How can you compare them to each other ??? One starts where the other stops !! And is twice the size !!. And as for shooting wildlife. The Nikon is awesome and an absolute out and out bargain for the price. The Tamron is nice but a focal length of 200mm even on the D500 just isn’t close enough for most wildlife photography.
Yes this is most important thing actually. I have 15-30 G2 and it also misses, however at those focal lengths you can usually get away with slightly out of focus image, especially if 2.8 is not used or camera to subject distance is a bit larger. But on 24-70 I must expect at least 95% of shots in focus or I can't rely on such lens for important tasks.
Video is 5 years old. My old Nikon G died so here I am and this review helped me make up my mind. Thanks Morris
I've used all three. My fav is the Tamron.
The Sigma OIS needs to be set (configured to operate by shutter half press) with their docking station, that's why it appeared not to be working.
By default the Sigma OIS is configured to only operate as you're taking the picture to conserve battery.
That is right. I also own the Sigma version and i have no issues with OS in video recording
That sounds like a hassle. It should work straight out of the box.
Docking station , i remember them , last time i touched a 3rd party lens
So nice to see a review with an actual conclusion and recommendation. Too many reviewers are afraid to tick off sponsors or alienate viewers with hedged recommendations. Nice job here FS!
Yes! I own a Tamron, after trying out the Sigma for a week. I wasn't happy at all with that lens. The G2 is a major improvement and definitly the best choice. Great review btw. Keep it up!
Of course ! Nikon is better but my budget not allowed but Tamron. You are right.
@@duckhanhpham4753 It's 3 years in the future now and I sold my Tamron a year ago and went with native Nikon 24-70mm f/2.8E and 70-200mm f/2.8E FL... Again, worlds apart from the Tamron..
@@Zifiron the nikon versions are that much better in your opinion?
@@breylankemp7596 Not in my opinion. I'm a full time professional. I used the Tamron G2 to my satisfaction for over a year before my serious work. I then switched to the Nikon 24-70mm f/2.8E about 1.5 years ago. I'll tell you: there's no better F mount version available than that one. I use it on a D500 and a Z6II + FTZ. The only lens better than that E-version is the S-line version for the Z-mount.
Feel free to check out my work at www.tpjverhoeven-photography.com
@@Zifiron thank you for the response I usually lean towards the tamrons I've had the gen 1 70-200mm f2.8 for 6 plus years and it's as sharp as ever need to upgrade to the g2 tho.
This is the best side-by-side review of the Tamron and Sigma currently on RUclips. Great job - many thanks.
I've had the "G1" tamron until it broke from a hard fall...
The G2 version looks nicer and noticed some other minor improvements.
Tamron is doing quite well..
I couldn't care less how my lens looks like. All I care about is how well they work for me. Nikon is a great lens. Sigma has some stabilisation problems. I haven't tried Tamron yet but I guess I'll go with Nikon. Good video. Well explained.
Thanks, i am getting one for the holidays, was on the fence, but so many people are praising the tamron for value and goodness for 99% of photos, Have the 70-200 already..
There is one huge problem for me with the Sigma and Tamron lenses. I'm a sport photographer, shooting quite often in bad weather conditions. I can't imagine myself shooting with Sigma and Tamron, both lenses extend when zooming in and out... so do Nikon, but Nikon does that under the lens hood! Shooting with Sigma and Tamron in the rain at 70mm you will get your lens wet and when you zoom in back to 24mm all that moisture goes inside the lens! I'm not sure how well they are weather sealed but I don't think it's good when water gets pulled inside the lens.
Nikon... different story, first of all the lens doesn't extend a lot (just around 18mm) and it's all covered by the lens hood! Winner for me every single wet day! :)
My only issue with the Nikon is the fact its a little to close to the end at 24mm. Fine at 70mm but often get spots at 24mm. Sacrifice i suppose for having the wide option. amazing lens though
Bought the Tamron 24-70mm G2 its fantastic
The biggest worry with aftermarket lenses is always focus accuracy but you didn't cover that. Can you comment on focusing please?
I bought the Tamron 24-70mm G2 and had focus problems with my D800. Sent the D800 and lens to Tamron fo calibration. Camera and lens came back working great.
i'm currently calibrating my lens as I write theses lines. PAIN IN THE *SS...
Just bought the Tamron 24-70mm G2.. Absolutely amazing chunk of glass.. Pair it with the Tamron 70-200mm and your camera kit will be complete!
Sigma = not weather sealed. Tamron = thoroughly gasketed and sealed throughout.
Tamron = better constructed. Period.
And don't forget the TAP-In Console allows for profiling: optimize the VC for video, change the manual focus override attenuation to rack slower or faster. Save the video profile for later. Another advantage.
Does it have IS?
@@mcallejas01 VC (Vibration Compensation is What Tamron calls it so yes
The sigma is weather sealed, what are you on about link: cameradecision.com/lenses/faq/is-the-Sigma-24-70mm-F2.8-DG-OS-HSM-Art-Canon-EF-a-Weather-Sealed-lens
You guys should contact Sigma and see if that was a broken unit. Damn, that was horrible IS/VR.
There in lies the problem: Sigma quality and consistency should perhaps be better: they shouldn't be shipping faulty lenses!
I agree. And it's a shame because I've used the Sigma ART 35mm a few times (borrowed) and it seemed great.
I own a Sigma lens with OS and when I first got it I recall the instructions stating that the OS doesn't work that quickly to just switch on. I believe it was recommended once switching on you had to wait about a minute for it too kick in after half depressing the shutter but I guess it could also had been defective.
Theres no doubt the Sigma was a faulty lens , every company ships a bum lens every now and then
true that. Sigma OS is in standby when turned off until you activate af
I know this video is dated by two years but I own the Tamron SP 24-70mm f/2.8 Di VC USD G2 , and the Tamron SP 70-200mm f/2.8 Di VC USD G2 , using them on Nikon D7100, D7200, D750 and a D810. The reviews here are great and I would agree, but in my eyes, hands down, the Tamron versions are the best bang for the buck. I shoot fashion, real estates and some landscape. Absolutely love them and while I did my own reviews as well, the Sigmas were not even in the running or an option for me. As far as Nikon, the reviews here are accurate but no need to spend or waste extra money on for the brand name "Nikon" printed on the lenses.
is there a large difference between the older tamron and newer one?
What about bokeh, chromatic and coma aberration, flare and ghosting, distortion etc. ? There's a lot more that goes into a lens optical characteristic than "how sharp it is".
They need to have a parallel comparison to other facories... Nikon 2470s has been the least sharp of their class but everybody just praise on
How about *actual build quality, I,m talking about quality of internal construction...what grade of aluminum and plastic? How well are the focus motors built? How precise is the machining? know you can’t tell that just by looking at the lens. Will the lenses stand up to hard use over a long time? It has been my experience that Nikon will definitely hold up. The Tamron and Sigma used to be junk lenses. I’m not saying they still are but no one has proven they are just as good as Nikon yet.
‘Cave Beast Demon' the Tamron does come with a 6 year warranty which is a plus.
As usual fstoppers is a poor excuse for journalism.
@@cavebeastdemon3631 the art series and g2 series are solid, as is the native glass from sony, canon, and nikon. photographers like to flick their lenses and complain about how plasticy it is, and then pull out their precision steel dumbells machined in germany in the 80s to show what "real" lenses are suppose to be like. there hasnt been any major recall on any of the latest generation of lenses.
Regarding the studio color test, I think there could be another explanation: I think the Nikon isn't more "telephoto" as you're saying, but the Tamron and Sigma both have severe focus breathing. The first generation Tamron had the same problem and I read a test that the G2 has even more problems with focus breathing. Try shooting a landscape on 70mm with these three lenses and they will probably look the same. But when you're shooting an object at close distance the Tamron and Sigma probably aren't 70mm anymore.
I think the IS on Sigma wasn't working at all. Maybe it doesn't work on video, it just tries to compensate stills.
Also, if I recall it right, Nikon fixed focus breathing issues on their new lenses. So the focal length was right on Nikon and wider than it should on other two. Both of those test shots were at quite short distance. Fixing focus breathing also makes lenses longer, which would explain Nikon lens size too.
Thank you for that VC test. I sent a lens back specifically FOR this reason, in exchange for the version with the VC. My fears have been validated with the shake test.
Cost me 200 bucks more, but totally worth it.
Gold band going out of style?? What?? I think the silver looks bland and personality-less. The gold looks so official and pristine.
Donald Trump has entered the chat...
I get you , all my lenses from 14 -600 have gold bands
I was planning on buying the Sigma (Which looks stylish to me and the other ART series lenses are awseome) but watching this video I'm definately buying the Tamron because I mostly do videos and I'll be needing a good VC/OS/VR. Thanks a lot Mr. Morris (and @Fstoppers) for this awesome in-depth honest review
It is a pity an AF speed and accuracy test wasn't done. That is the area the Nikon should be streaks ahead of the other 2 lenses but it would have been nice to see the comparison.
yes that what he should had done
Don't underestimatie the AF speed of modern Sigma lenses. Many times they are as fast as Nikon en Canon counterparts. Sometimes they are even faster (Sigma 135/1.8 is very fast and also the 85Art is faster than the competition).
The Nikkor 27-70mm f/2.8 VR has Nikons latest version of their silent wave motor, which is meant to be exceptionally fast and accurate.
Sigma's can be very hit and miss when it comes to autofocus, with a lot of people complaining that they have had issues gaining accurate focus, though it can be improved dramatically when calibrated using Sigmas docking station. My former assistant has the Sigma 85mm f/1.4 art and it is a good lens but I didn't find the AF particularly stood out against the competition (though it does focus faster than my Zeiss 85mm Milvus :P).
The Nikon version (unfortunately) is far better in AF speed. I hate this lens for its ugly bokeh and distortion, but it is indeed the fastest even compared to its previous predecessor.
Hahah if u are happy to pay extra 1000$ more
Comeon Fstoppers more content like this .. don't let photography related channels die
as if they were gonna anyway
The Nikon’s VR looks fantastic. My guess is the reason it’s like that when you break away is due to panning. I bet they purposely worked it in there like that, especially since it looked like only the horizontal axis was allowed to move and the vertical axis was still locked. Good video, really clears it up and makes the decision easy.
Sounds like you had it on sport. Where it adapts to allow panning.
This was super helpful, was considering the sigma, but after watching this vid, only gonna consider tamron and nikkor. IMO nikkor would be the winner here, but in terms of cost, efficiency and quality tamron wins
A great review! I have bought tamron 70-200 and it’s actually a very descent lens, I’m happy enough with it. Now can see its little brother 24-70 totally worth the G2 generation, very well done tamron
i have both copies for my canon 6d mk ii and still am a happy puppy .
I’m a Canon shooter and I have the previous version of the Tamron and I can honestly say it’s a brilliant lens.
My opinion is that the reason you buy and F/2.8 is to have the ability to shoot sharper images in low light situations at f/2.8. For this reason alone I would have to go with the Nikon. The Tamron is greater than the Nikon at f/8 and at VR or VR, but if that's the case then you may as well just get a nice kit lens with VC or VR and shoot at f3.5 and up. If the lens you buy is a constant f2.8 then it should perform excellent at f2.8:) I'm only speaking in terms of this lens shootout and deciding which one to buy. Great comparison video though!
I wouldn't have picked the way the lens looks (gold vs silver) as my first criteria in this review.
Yeah, I thought that was an odd choice, especially since since it's so subjective. I for one prefer black and gold. It's a signature look.
There is not necessarily anything wrong with the Sigma IS. It might be that, by default, the IS only kicks in when you take a picture (that's the case on my Sigma 150-600). On that lens it can be changed by using the dock.
Thats what I thought, but it means it is worthless for video.
Shocked by the Sigma IS haha
i bet he didn't use the usb dock and update it
To be honest, that should not matter. It should be way better out of the box.
I'm also very surprise by the result of Stabilization of the Sigma... perhaps a bad sample... but Really thanks for this test;.... very informative.
More Sigma lenses have problems with working stabilisation on Nikon cameras.
Nice review. Is it possible to add Pentax k1 and 24-70 lens? Regards
Thats what you call a SUPERB review!!! No waffle, just straight into it, answering all the questions that we all want to know! Cheers.
Concerning the optical stabilization on the Sigma, I just bought one a week ago and happened across this video. The possibility of it being no good at that feature concerned me (not a lot, but some...). I just did a quick, similar test (only the Sigma, don't have the other two lenses) at 70mm and using the video feature (Nikon D750). I appear to get the same results as Fstoppers; no significant change between the OS being turned on or off, whether I was holding the camera steady (handheld) or purposefully shaking it. That said, I didn't think there was that much shake in the image to begin with (at 70mm), at least while I was standing still. Seemed like the posted video could have been held better, but he was consistent throughout the 3 lenses.
But I'm more concerned with how the stabilization works with STILL photography, which is what I would use it for 95% of the time anyway. Testing for that, I sat in my office chair, zoomed to 70mm, focused on some cabinet knobs about 18-20 foot away. I tried a test, on Manual, at 1/30s, f/4.5, and then 1/15s, f/6.3, shooting 4 consecutive frames each with and w/o the OS turned on. CONSISTENTLY I had motion blur when I zoomed into the center of my image NOT using the OS, some worse than others, especially at 1/15s. AND consistently I had almost identically sharp, at least MUCH sharper, images when the OS was turned on. There was a marked difference. So the OS on the SIGMA may indeed suck for video shooting however I found it a worthwhile feature for still imagery.
Note, most of my lenses are Nikon, always just wanting to buy the "brand" name since I didn't trust competitors. However I think my old mindset of what those competitors were like in decades past is quite outdated. Nikon (and Canon) have serious competition out there for both IQ and pricing. I bought a used Tamron 90mm macro a year ago and, especially for the $400 price, have been blown away by it's image quality. I still love Nikon, but they need to be more competitive in their pricing in my opinion or suffer more losses in their market share.
Thanks a lot for doing the test and posting the results. I was about to dismiss the Sigma.
In case you see this, could you share your long-term experience with the lens?
Hey +Fstoppers - I'm not a Sigma fanboy by any means, but I've played with the 24-70 f/2.8 ART lens in-store and the OS functioned waaayyy better than your copy. Rather, my issues were with extremely poor sharpness across the frame wide open, and even poor corner sharpness at f/5.6. I have the 50-100 f/1.8 for my D500 and it performs quite well, but if shooting wide open, I typically have to fight off loads of chromatic aberration outside of the center of the frame.
For similar reasons to yours, I am fully in support of the Tamron G2 lenses. AF is quite fast and silent, images look wonderful (I can live with the "onion ring" effect on out of focus highlights), and the VC is incredible. Further, those lenses are lighter than their Nikon counterparts, and both the 24-70 f/2.8 G2 and 70-200 f/2.8 G2 can be had, with good UV filters, for the price of Nikon's 70-200 f/2.8E FL ED lens. Nikon's prices on their glass are ridiculous; I can live with a company name really close to a feminine hygiene product and a little bit of focus breathing for half the cost of name brand gear...
Lastly, Tamron's 85 f/1.8 with VC is mindblowingly good; it left me spitting mad for not picking one up when I had the money before. Were it a little less expensive, I'd go for it, but that 24-70 f/2.8 G2 will be mine first.
Nice review and thanks!
Tamron rocks. Have over 5 of their lenses and never fail me at weddings and sessions. Love them!
Found the Tokina 24-70 pro to be the sharpest of any of these and a most pleasant surprise in price!
I really like the gold on the Nikon lenses. To me, the all white lettering makes the lens look cheap. But, what do I know, I’m an old fogey that bought my first SLR (Nikon FE) in 1979. Great review and channel.
Tamron is the price point to match as this budget manufacturer has made incredible strides over the past 5 years in the sharpness and background bokeh (blur). I either own or shoot with every major lens out there. I do not have a problem revealing that Tamron lenses can give you the same results as shooting full frame using Sony sensors and Nikon glass. I shoot manual focus so the Tamron can still keep you honest--I get slightly less image stabilization. I use Tamron lenses strictly for portraiture. The cream in the background, the texture and every vein of the eyeballs and colors that actually pop and are never muddied are all screaming that this Tammy's for you!
I just prefer the Nikon for one reason. The barrel is protected by the hood. When zooming I just feel better protected against elements and don’t fear bumping into objects because it’s always the same size and I can’t understand why other manufacturers don’t see this.
“I really think this is the worst optical stabilization I have ever seen” haha I laughed! Wow! Thanks for doing these tests!
(1) Great review, tackling real usage issues (e.g. ergonomics).
(2) FOCUS BREATHING!!! The reason that you found the Nikon has more magnification than the other two at 70mm (at close distances) is that the Sigma and Tamron exhibit "focus breathing". That is, when you focus at infinity with lens set at 70mm, you get 70mm, BUT when you focus closer, you no longer get 70mm. You might get 55mm or even 50mm. This will not matter to many people but it might be a HUGE issue for an event photographer photographing people at 8 or 10 feet, for example. 70mm is already marginally long for complimentary compression on a face at half body and 50 or 55mm on a full frame sensor is not long enough for a complimentary half body portrait unless you step back and plan to crop. That is, to use the Tamron or Sigma and get complimentary portraits, you will need to step back, plan to crop and lose some resolution. Not a disaster, not by a long shot, but it's a workflow complication in both shooting and in editing.
(3) Agree about black/silver being sharper look than Nikon gold.
(4) Tamron being "loose zoom" could mean focal length slippage when you hold camera by your side.
(5) Video stabilization test is jaw dropping.
(6) You might want to add a video testing focus speed, focus reliability, and perhaps tracking in continuous mode.
Overall this is a very unusually well done video test, and time efficient too.
Thanks!
You forgot to do an AF Test on the lenses. I was waiting on that part actually.
Wow! TAMRON is the new king! I just wish they added how fast these lens can focus on a subject.
What's interesting is the different color rendition and the brightness in different shots.
The Sigma is SIGNIFICANTLY less sharp on the edges, if I buy a 2.8 lens I want to use it at 2.8.
I always put my subjects in the corner.
@@villageblunder4787 HAHAHA
@@villageblunder4787 I know your comment is an old joke, but corner sharpness performance is actually important for landscapes.
@@villageblunder4787 LMFAO! Bruh 😂😂😂
I will get the Nikon 24-70 anytime though it is the most expensive one of the three and bigger. Optics and image quality over the other two. And it zoom is internal so will not suck in air while you zoom. Which means the lens is less likely to grow fungus and trap moisture within. This is through experience. Here in my country Singapore hot and humid all year round - my Nikon 85mm prime macro and 50mm prime G never get any fungus, while all my other zooms (no matter the brand) now has traces of fungus in the lens. Maintenance, cleaning and even replacements of affected lens cost more over time than a single purchase.
Did you not test out the autofocus speeds?
I must say that the auto focus speed quite a big feature when it comes to lenses.
Precision might be even more interesting
The Tamron is easily the best value here all things considered
All things... the stabilization for video was really bad.
@@davidgamboa4053 The test showed the Tamron's stabilisation was the best.
you left out the MOST IMPORTANT test.
whos got FASTEST and Sharpest AUTO-FOCUS!
Canon. ='D
There is another video that tests this. Tamron's autofocus from one end to infinity is near instant. Sigma's is a slight slower. I honestly don't know about the Nikon.
I'd like to provide some advice to anyone who watches this and is looking to buy a 24-70 for nikon. I went with this reviews recommendation and bought the Tamron. It's worked decently well, but I have several complaints. The outside of the lens is horribly constructed, I have scrapes and marks all over the lens hood and lens body and have not been overly rough with it, it started getting scraped up the moment I took it out of the box. Even the section that zooms out got scuffed up just from zooming in and out. The focus out of box is something you should be very very wary of. Mine is off, I'm going through the process to try to fix the focus but I don't expect much improvement due to how inconsistent it can be. I've missed several shots in lighting situations that should be just fine just because the lens is not consistent or fast. Don't get me wrong, it is usable and gets decently close, but it was to the point of off where I thought sharpness just wasn't achievable in a camera until I got a nikon lens and shot with it. I took a shot with an 85mm 1.4 and I could see my reflection in the eye of my subject. I took a picture with the tamron and it's almost like there's gauze over the image. The focus ring is almost unusable to manually focus if needed as well, it's extremely thin and inconsistently loose or tight. The lens seems to be very dark, I don't have a number to quantify but I'd guess somewhere around a half stop to dark. That may not sound like a lot, but I shoot at night, indoor, and do astrophotography quite a bit and it's very very frustrating. The lens sits loose in the mount, not enough to make it fall out or anything crazy like that, but it's very noticeable. The front element attracts dust like crazy. The lens cap gets loose and squeaky after a week or two of use. The switches are not to be trusted, if you put this into your bag, make 100% sure the switches are where you want them when you take them out. Just now I went out to shoot and realized that my VC switch had been turned off the whole time.
In summation, this was my very first full frame lens. It's worked decently well, and I didn't understand what I was missing until I used a piece of nikon glass. It can get you started, but if you buy this lens do tamron'a autofocus fine tune the second you pull it out of the box. A lot of my early shots are just not sharp anywhere I want them to be, not enough for most people to notice but enough to effect image quality in my mind. I'm still going to use it, probably until I save enough to get the nikon 24-70 and maybe even after just for the form factor, but I'm not going to trust it and I'm not going to be using it nearly as much. If you need a 24-70, be wary. It'll work, but it's not fantastic and it's not something to rely on.
I've just purchased a Tamron one... so, I'm satisfied. I've yet experimented the Tamron Vc on the 150-600, and it is just amazing !
What about autofocus speed and accuracy in low light?
You did a review on a Tamron 24-70 a couple years back when I was considering buying the Canon 24-70. I was sold on the vibration stabilization aspect of that lens, and how you said you used it for (what did you call it, Fusion?) mixing video and still in your wedding photography. I used it a lot in a wedding I shot, and the stabilization was so good, i was able to follow the bride down a staircase with a very smooth video.... not to mention how you can shoot at some very ridiculously slow speeds in low light and have amazingly sharp images. Thank you Fstoppers, you guys have been an inspiration all the way for me.
I own the Nikon and it is a MONSTER! in both senses of the word. It takes awesome photos but it is huge compared to its predecessor and difficult to maneuver in crowds.
Wow. That was a great video. Thank you so much!
The vr in the tamron kept jerking even when you never shook it, the Nikon was smooth. Also i give alot of weight to the Nikon for no focus breathing, which you didn't really touch on.
I remember this was the first Fstoppers video I watched. I've watched tons of reviews from different channels and I can say, this is one of the very few channels that produce objective honest reviews. If there's any channel I won't miss checking before buying, it would definitely be Fstoppers. More power to y'all!
Sony 24-70/2.8 G master, the canon 24-70/2.8 II and the Tamron 24-70/2.8 G2. Buy which you can afford.
Mikeybikey88 you’re absolutely right! Have of these test, the client can’t tell the difference.
I think the reason you say the nikon is more telephoto is simply because the lens is built to reduce "focus breathing" where when you focus to a subject closely the actual fov get wider if it's not corrected. Nikon 24-70 and 70-200 are built to reduce this as much as possible. I have a 70-200 mm where the 200 mm end become 135 mm when I focus closely where my old canon 70-200 mm would stay very close to 200 mm when use close to a subject.
For this reason if I was planning on doing portrait a lot with the 24-70 (I don't use a 24-70 for portrait personally) I would pay the price to get the nikon. Else the tamron is the best choice here. I have the pentax version of the tamron 24-70 mm and it's an incredible lens that doesn't leave the camera often. On ff sensor a good 24-70 mm f2.8 is a must.
I've got the Tamron 24-70 G2 and its just downright amazing.
I have a 35mm Tamron Prime SP lens on a D750 and it "Rock's" big time - I would have no problem in buying the Tamron lenses
My Tamron 70-200 f2.8 g1 is a phenomenal lens. Bought it grey market for $900, and not one single problem in over two years and thousands of shots. Only complaints are minimum focus distance and its inability to select focus range, as it can blow out the entire image into mad bokeh at 200mm close focus (something you'd want to limit it to close focus)
First time watching this channel and I'm impressed how he reviews gear. New subscriber
Why didn't you also review the ED (Non VR) version of the Nikon?
Very few people know this but Sigma release an firmware update last year for the 24-70 Art that correct the performance of the OS. Before the update, the OS only kicks in when the shot was taken, to preserve battery I guess. But after the update, the OS will keep on going when you compose the shot or half press shutter. That's why some other RUclips review actually think the Sigma OS is better(because they compare the OS by the photo they took). Good for photo photographer, but bad for filmmaker. i had mine sent to the local store for firmware update, worked perfectly ever since.
So does it work good for video now ?
I just bought a Tamron and I wanted to know more about this lens. The tutorial really helps!
Thanks!
Nobody ever stops down a 24-70 you only buy it to shoot it wide open, the reality is that with exceptions it is always better to buy a good used Nikon than a new third party lens. You are on your own 2 years from now with them.
I remember the tamron comes with a 5 years service warranty for these new lenses, i just dont know with sigma.
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Merry Christmas to you too :)
When it comes to reliability, Nikon lenses consistently stand out. Their superior focus sets them apart from the competition, making them the go-to choice for many photographers. Think of Nikon as the Lexus and Toyota of the camera world-renowned for their dependability and precision. Canon, on the other hand, is akin to Honda and Acura-reliable and respected, but often not quite at the same pinnacle of performance as Nikon.
I just subscribed because we need more honest reviews from people like you.
Thanks a lot, I was very confused in between tamron and sigma. Tamron wins the race
Great review for me at exactly the right time so thanks for a warts and all review - I've just oredred the Tamron and looking forward to getting to use it !
I’ve used the Nikon 24-70 a lot and it’s excellent but the Sony 24-70 2.8 GM is now my favorite.
would love to see how the contrast holds up hiting direct light/sun
Thank you for the the fantastic review and comparison; must say, it is one of the best. I like how you're not bias in anyway and that's what I like to see in a comparison review. Once again, thank you and you've made my choice of choosing the lens that much easier. I like to go with the Nikon but the price is just insane and I'm no pro, just a hobbyist.
I use the Tamron on my Canon EOS cameras andI love it! Thanksfor your test!
Watched this AFTER I ordered the Tamron G2. Whew!! I made the right decision!
After 8 months.. Did you?
Great review! I totally agree with your conclusion. I was one of those who believed I had to stick with Nikon lenses to get good quality. But after much research, I bought the Tamron and am very happy with it. 📷
cameraz99 I was thinking about the Nikon, how is the AF test on the Tamron tho? Isn't Nikon a lot faster and what about low light situations? Is it good? Focus hunting?
I only have the Nikon 24-120mm f4 to compare it to, but I'd say that this Nikon lens is a little sharper than the Tamron 24-70mm f2.8. Both seem to focus equally well in low light, but here again, the Nikon focuses a little faster -- but not enough to make a difference, IMO.
Thank you for this video I am currently considering all three of these lenses on the used market!
The title of this video should be "The Best 24-70mm f2.8 Lens You Can Buy for NIKON"
Though I agree (and I was looking the info for canon) the comparisons made in the video are universal when it comes to sigma and tamron.
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No Sony G-Master, no Canon L...
Totally agree!
Well, if the looks matter, I actually like the Nikon Gold/Black theme. But curious, which VR mode did you use on the Nikon 24-70? And, what about the low light and AF speed performance? Thanks!
Sooooooo this was the most comprehensive straight to the point video on lenses I've ever seen can you all duplicate this with other lenses please... thanks
I've got Nikkor 24-70 non-VR. I've been using it for years now. Aside from new VR version, I believe it's the sharpest 24-70 lens you can get for your Nikon csmeras. However, mine is starting to show some signs of aging. Still works well though but feels like its time is coming. When it breaks, I probably won't pay high Nikon repair costs. Most likely I'll just get the new Tamron.
Sitti2300 I am thinking about getting the 24-70 VR is it worth it? Are you sure the non-vr is sharper? I would really reconsider if that's the case
Vesh Jay only slighty sharper at certain focal length. I would still get new 24 70 VR if I were you.
Nothing beats Canon’s 24-70. Still the industry standard.
When did the Canon’s 24-70 get IS? wait it does not have it...
industry standard doesn't make something good. there are many products that are much higher rated and performing than industry standards in all fields. but sure, canon's lens, which is a great lens, is industry standard. according to you.
I have the old Tamron 24-70 and have shot many wedding with it and it has never let me down. It is a little slow to focus in low light and to me that is pretty important especially for the work I do. But it is manageable. Would love to know if the new version is better when it comes to focusing. Especially in low light, great review thanks.
I've just bought a D850. Already have the old school Nikon 35-70 F2.8 AF D. Ken Rockwell and the "angry guy" both rave about this lens. Looking forward to using it.
Enjoyed the video. Using the old tamron 24 70 and I give it a very big enormous thumbs up...
I would rather you chose the lense with the greatest functionality rather than its look.
What difference does the trim make?
Ordered the Tamron today. Mostly because of your review.
Gotta love the guld and black on the Nikon.
Did you use ACTIVE VR on the Nikon, and not just NORMAL?
A fantastic comparison review; what Brough me to check out this video was I have a Sigma 17-50 2.8 EX HSM and accidentally drop it and crack the front ring. Focus does not work and I was looking for a 24-70 2.8 Yes between Canon, Tamron and Sigma. Luckily I found this Tamron 24-70mm f/2.8 G2 and I am getting it for only $700 from Craigslist and is a local seller. My point is, that this review gives me the assurance that I was getting the right lens for what I do Photo and Video. Thank you guy
My Canon 24-70mm f2.8 failed (connection error). Canon wanted $450 to repair. Instead, I replaced it with Tamron's G2. I did the research and the G2 does really well. So the deciding factor was a Tamron 6 year warranty! I saved $500 on less expensive Tamron G2 and got a 6 year warranty (peace of mind).
12:58 I'm guilty as charged, I've always just gone with whatever Nikon puts out as their premier lens in any given focal length. You're also right in that they, the 24-70 and the 70-200, look very similar on camera. I carry two camera bodies at the same time, one with the 24-70 and the other with the 70-200 and recently had a guest at an event come up to me and ask why I had two cameras with the same lenses on them? In fact, the 24-70 VR is heavier than my FL 70-200 lens. As for space used in the case, I don't care about that as I always use a huge gear bag, so that's not a consideration for me. I LOVE the VR on the 24-70, but I tend to use it in video mode wide and close to my moving subjects and it has saved me lost of stabilization work in post, as I can now use those sequences right out of the camera. The weight of the lens, also helps with handheld stabilization as your lens supporting hand is a tad farther from the body than with the shorter lens. As a working pro, the Tamron and Sigma lenses just don't get considered and maybe that's a personal flaw. I use my lenses daily in all weather and couldn't be happier as they have never failed.. you didn't comment on weather sealing, and I'm often in light rain and snowfall. Your starting comment about the Gold and Black, not being your favorite? It's one of the things I like about Nikon aethetics :) so very subjective. Your body language and intonation already dismiss the Nikon very early on and that's ok, but you're not being objective when you do that :) Love the video, thumbs UP of course!
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Nikon are overpriced. Not impressed.
Same here. Price is relative, what happens if you sell your lens a couple of years from now? Do you think your Sigma or Tamron lens will be very sought after? It's all about total cost of ownership, if you only look at the price tag the day you buy your lens, Nikon comes out as the most expensive, of course.
Lala Song, there are as many choices as there are photographers, I'm sure whatever you choose will serve you well.
Hi Aredhel77 I hadn't thought about that, but you're right I have lots of friends who are happy to buy my used gear. I always send them in to NPS for cleaning and refurbishment and then sell it with the "Nikon Refurbished" sticker on the wrapper. I honestly have never considered using other brand lenses and I'm sure they are great, but I love my gear so don't feel the need to change it up. It's probably kind of a mistake for me to comment here, I knew it would possibly draw fire from those who may disagree.
Aredhel77 that's not even close to being true.
For older 3rd party lenses with dodgy build quality, sure, but not the case anymore. They might even have a higher percentage of their initial price retained, but its about how much you spend (buy a $1000 lens and lose 20% vs a $2000 lense losing 15% would mean that you spent $300 ($100 more) compared to $200) For Nikon, you'd have to retain double the percentage of your initial investment to break even. Looking at both the last generation 70-200s (tamron vs Nikon), you'd save more with the tamron easily (tamron at $999 ($1399) Nikon at $1499 ($2099) both from b&h), and the tamrons price is artificially lowered due to its replacement costing $100 less than the outgoing model, unlike Nikons where it is so expensive the outgoing model is back ordered still when purchasing new.
So no, buying Nikon doesn't save you money in the long run either, not to mention the fact that many have debt and the cost of interest makes the Nikon lenses even that more expensive.
Most of my lenses are Nikon, but my one 3rd party lens changed my mind. I once though as you did, until I did actual research.
I just bought a tamron 18 400mm for my Canon have try it a bit going tomorrow to keep testing it, so far very good indeed
What microphone are you using Lee? Sounds great
Nikon is 70mm, Tamron and Sigma about 50mm because of focal breathing. And I hate when part of lens moves out from lens body, looks ugly and you can get sand into the lens more easily. :)
Lucky to direct to this video because I'm planning to buy the sigma on the other day.. Thanks for this review, got many idea for this lens!