Hyundai Elantra N Oil Catch Can Full Step-by-Step Installation
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- Опубликовано: 12 сен 2024
- I purchased an ADD W1 Oil Catch Can for my 2022 Hyundai Elantra N. I'll go over why I chose this particular brand, why an oil catch can is a good idea for the Elantra N's direct injection engine, and I give a full step-by-step installation.
Although this is a very nice product, the instructions are pretty generic and may even be for a Hyundai Veloster N, not an Elantra N, so some of the steps I had to figure out as I went along. I point out the mistakes I made during the installation so you don't have to make them yourself.
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This was probably the best guide out of them all on RUclips, thanks for helping me with my VN!
Awesome! You’re very welcome.
@@n-power-automotive Have you had any problems / concerns with the brass 90 degree elbow piece? I also see the kink in the hose and just ordered that same elbow piece.
@@RioPetersen zero issues. It’s working perfect.
Any modified performance car that you see will have some sort of oil catch can on them. Oil Catch cans are placed by the car owners themselves which beg the question of why do the car manufacturers choose not to place an oil catch can in the vehicles. Any GDI Engines benefits greatly from Oil Catch Can let alone a performance vehicle. If you understand the purpose of a catch can you can say there is a good argument for automakers to place catch cans in their engines no matter if it is a performance vehicle or not. As PCV systems suck the pressure out of the crankcase, it also draws out a fine mist of oil which is then included in the air/fuel intake charge. Although you might not notice any performance loss in a stock engine, the blow-by created by GDI Engines can lead to reduced combustion, fouled spark plugs, detonation, a dirty throttle body/intake manifold, and it can even lower the fuel efficiency. This type of damage over time with blow-by will cost you thousands of dollars in repair cost.
There are auto manufacturers that provide products to address the blow-by problem. This is usually still considered an aftermarket product and done under a different name or within the "performance" division. Vehicles owners still mismanage regular oil changes. It may not be you the reader but let's face it consumers of vehicles do have a problem remembering that vehicles need attention and maintenance. Adding another "chore" for vehicle owners is just another maintenance concern for a vehicle owner to add to the list. And to the main reason (personal opinion only), even though auto manufacturers know that there is a blow-by problem with modern engines that does not mean they want or will run out to fix it. Remember blow-by damage is done over time. It is not something that shows immediately. An auto manufacturer does not want you to purchase a vehicle and keep it for the lifetime of the car. They want you to buy more cars from them.
An Oil Catch Can not only helps with the longevity of your engine but it also helps in performance. So the question is if you spent forty thousand dollars on a vehicle how much is it worth to spend to maintain performance of that vehicle.?
I added a custom Saikou-Michi can on my Veloster N. It is installed the intake (PVC) side. I also installed an oil separator on the turbo-side. After a year turbo-side had nothing so I removed it. I did run a line from the bottom of my can to the engine under cover so that I can drain it when I change my oil. Absolute must-have on these GDI N engines.
PCV****** (Positive Crankcase Ventilation) PVC is plumbing pipe
@@gorillawrenchin My bad. Thank you for the correction!!
This was a very good video, your work is appreciated.
I am surprised your kit didn't come with check valves to use inline with the hoses; that seems to be standard now for ADD W1 v3 and v3.3 catch cans for the Elantra N.
Nice work. looks sharp. How is it working so far? Any issues in cold weather?
Thanks! No issues whatsoever. It seems to catch more in the summer than winter. It doesn’t get super cold where I am and it’s garaged so I haven’t had any issues because of cold weather.
This may be a dumb question, but im still asking.
If you install the catch can, has anyone had the dealership reject any warranty work?
I know the catch can is better for the engine, but i also know dealerships are happy to find reasons to end your warranty.
@@johnnyturbo8460 it shouldn’t, but it ultimately depends on the dealership. Some despise mods and will look for any reason to say they’ll void your warranty, others don’t care about mods at all. There is a law that prevents them from denying a warranty claim unless they ca. prove the modification caused the issue, but they also have a lot more money for good lawyers if you tried to sue them for denying your warranty. So I’d check with your dealership or if you don’t care that much just put one on. I could take mine off and put it back to stock in about 10 minutes, so if it’s an issue you could always remove it before you bring it in.
@n-power-automotive Fair enough. That sounds good, thanks. I just ordered one.
I decided to use a different return line. I noticed the one that comes with the kit is really flimsy. Also I used a 90 degree 3/4 fitting vs the 1/2. I think the 1/2 is too small. But great video.
@oscarmontes921 why 3/4s? 1/2 is the same as oem
can you provide the link in the description. of the product
How easy is it to unscrew the can to empty it? Can you reach under and get it out without having to take anything apart? I’ve always had this question especially with dual catch can setups on things like a Subaru WRX STi. I really like how this one looks, really clean install.
Not hard at all. You don’t have to take anything off. It’s a little tight to get it out but nothing crazy. They also suggest not over tightening the can, so it spins off really easily.
@@n-power-automotive That's awesome. I always watch catch can installs wondering how they get the cans out without having to take things apart, especially ones like the radium dual catch can setup on subies. Thanks for the info.
My mechanic didn’t hook mine up to the pvc. He used the cold air intake hook up , and the top valve closer to the cold air
@@2005Winzel that’s not where the majority of oil blow-by occurs. You’re likely not catching any vapors.
Thank you !
Want to note that the torque spec on that bolt is around 40 ft lb for those that are looking in the video for that information. It's towards the end of the video.
Okay so I've been checking the dipstick on mine and it's been very low. I decided to take the catch can off for the winter time and in doing so I unscrewed it and see how much oil was in there. I would say there was only about a teaspoon of oil in my catch can. This is after roughly 4,500 mi. Also I guess I didn't see it but the catch can itself was rubbing on the black bracket next to the motor. So when you do install keep an eye on the can where it's located at. Having that rubbing up against that mount could cause false knock which will retard the timing and cause lower power. I also have read from "Rori" whose brother does RUclips content on his Elantra N that he tracks, that the cylinder head on these cars have a " built-in catch can" and that an oil catch can't really isn't needed for these cars. *Shrug* I personally have never taken off the intake manifold to see where that oil drains to from that crankcase port.
I noticed that doesn't come with a one way inline check valve that other versions do. Any thoughts on that?
@@johnnyturbo8460 the stock PCV valve is a one-way valve, so IMO it’s overkill anyway. I’m not worried about it. My past car’s catch cans did not have check valves and they were fine.
@@n-power-automotive ok thanks
PCV not pvc. Big difference. PCV = Positive Crankcase Ventilation. PVC = white plumbing pipe
😂 Yep mixed those letters up, but I think most people know what I was saying.
@@n-power-automotive Yeah your whole chat called it plumbing PVC. It's a pet peeve of mine due to professors early in schooling that hammered us if we said the wrong thing
@@gorillawrenchin I promise I’ll never do it again 😉
Great diy bro, definitely gonna come back to this when i get my catch can for my veloster n 22'. Do u have a ig i can fallow you on?
Glad you enjoyed it! @elantra_n_169 on IG. Just starting to post on it again.
I assume you run the can year round? Have you ever had issues with the lines freezing in winter?
How are you, I've got a black Elantra N 2023, I'd like to know what your thoughts are now after having it installed for a while. Is it actually worth it?
Doing good thanks! In my opinion I think it’s worth it. It doesn’t collect a ton of vapors, but enough that I’m glad it’s not going back into the intake.
How much have you caught? Would you say it's worth buying after changing the catch can out a couple times?
It catches about a 1/3 of a cup every 4,000 miles. Yes, I would buy it again.
what the difference between this catch can and the one from boomba and SXTH
They all serve the same function, it really just comes down to looks and price IMO.
@@n-power-automotive ahh, so people buy more expensive one for looks? if i want the cheapest one, would that be the SXTH?
@@timgalyukov the ADD1 is cheaper. I should also include some are less plug and play installation-wise. The ADD1 is one that you have to cut the hose to length and figure out the routing, where SXTH is direct fit. If I had to do it again I’d just go with SXTH.
Hmm was that supposed to go on you're engine mount? The aluminum from that bracket is probably nowhere near as hard as ur engine mount.. I thought it was supposed to be mounted to the bottom bolt on your coolant reservoir?
Yes, this bracket attaches to the engine mount. They have others that attach to the coolant reservoir. I’m not sure why some are one way and some the other. The bracket I believe is steel, not aluminum. I haven’t had any issues with it mounted there.
@@n-power-automotive alright cool.. ya seems like a odd choice maybe it can't fit to the reservoir. But good to know
@@gebus26 no way it’ll fit on the reservoir. It would be sticking up so high the hood wouldn’t close. I’m positive it goes there. It was a step in the instructions.
@@n-power-automotive I believed u bro.
@@gebus26 ha ha didn’t mean to be crazy about it. But you got me curious about it so I did email them because all the photos on their website show the bracket that attaches to the reservoir. I’ll let you know what they say.
nice guide.. can u tell me if this is the universal V3 or the Elantra specific V3, cause I want the mounting bracket n I'm not sure which version has it, or did u buy the bracket separately?
I was under the impression this was the Elantra specific one but it seemed more universal. The site is a bit confusing.
thank you. yea the site is really confusing@@n-power-automotive
Thank you for sharing
Is there any restriction with this catch can?
I don’t believe so. At least none that I’be noticed. The car runs extremely well.
Hello, what diameter do i need to buy the hose for the pcv valve? Thanks!
Oh good question. I can’t remember off the top of my head. I’ll see if it says on the hose when I get a chance.
Please do not shoot the messenger when I ask, even though you paid off your car, by installing this can it potentially void the warranty?
Ha ha I won’t! No, it’d be very unlikely a dealership would care about a catch can, but it’s very easy to take off if I wanted to bring it in for service.
Thanks
Where did you get the catchcan from and how much?
I bought it directly from the ADD W1 website. I can’t remember the exact price, but somewhere around $150.
Where is the check valve
No check valve with this kit.
What oil catch can you uaing
Did you watch the video?
ruclips.net/video/T-B4VRxAtbw/видео.html Not a direct link but this video @2:49 details a study published in The Society of Automotive Engineers on the benefits of Catch Cans! I am sure with some Google Fu you can find the study.
How come you didn’t use a check valve?
The PCV is a one way valve already. Plus the ADD-W1 kit doesn’t come with one, so it wasn’t even a consideration. I know the SXTH OCC’s come with one, but IMO it’s overkill.
Thanks for your help!
I am from Australia and just ordered the same as what you did and cost me $375 all up.
@@Wazza722 you’re welcome!
this is great and all, but the car has a 10 year 100k mile drivetrain warranty. I could care less about carbon build up tbh. Unless you already voided warranty with parts
You don’t care about carbon build up. I do.
@@n-power-automotive Hell yeah. Does this void the warranty though?
@@Neviils nah
Carbon build-up is not covered under the warranty. The dealer will be happy to remove it for you using a BG cleaning or a walnut blast. This is considered maintenance not a warranty issue. If you don't believe me...you will. I do an intake valve clean annually plus I have my can. BTW, I have a Veloster N.
@@Neviils Yes without a doubt.
PCV********
Yes I mixed the letters up
Absolute waste of money and time. If so “vital” the manufacturer whom must warranty the engine would have surely included a $10. Miracle add on component to ensure engine performs or runs longer. Have never read any empirical data from two identical engines one with coffee can installed and one with out comparing enternals after say 50,000 miles. If you can point us to any studies or anything showing the real world benefit, other to the company making them, we would surely appreciate it as I’ve never found any.
There are a lot of theories on why they don’t include them from the factory. One being that it’s an additional maintenance component that the owners has to maintain. Owners already struggle to just keep up with proper oil changes. I guess some cars came with oil separators from the factory, like BMW, but they drained back into the oil somehow vs into a can that needs to be emptied. I don’t know 100% that it will prevent carbon build up, but for me it makes me feel like I’m being proactive in preventing it from happening. I had an oil catch can on my previous car and it definitely caught a lot of oil/gas between oil changes. The can would be half full when I changed the oil. Again, maybe it’s just a sense of security, but for under $200 I think it’s a worthwhile mod.
@@n-power-automotive They don't do things like this because most wouldn't maintain it properly. Most want maintenance free Cars outside of oil changes & full ups. So many people act like the manufacturers only have performance in mind. If so, all of these cars would have a lot more HP/Torque. We buy these cars & choose to upgrade the parts for more performance & longevity - but at the cost of higher maintenance costs.
Engineering explained donut media etc.. have videos on this
"George" if you like oil being dumped into your intake manifold and gumming up your intake valves, then don't run one. Numerous sources on the internet with a quick google search on how beneficial an oil catch can is, especially on a turbocharged direct injection motor is out there. Open your eyes.
Years ago, Saab included a catch can with their engines plus instructions on emptying it with every oil change. People did not do it and the can would fill-up and "empty" into the engine. This is the reason why they are not factory installed. Plus, if you do nothing the dealer will be happy to clean it for you and this is NOT a warranty item from any manufacturer. If you think so...good luck.