Are Racing Drivers Athletes? Let's Prove It...
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- Опубликовано: 3 апр 2014
- Are racing drivers athletes? For those involved in motorsports, this can be a rather insulting question. But let's use science to get to the bottom of this.
Most of us sports fans, or at least motorsport fans most likely remember when former NFL Quarterback Donovan McNabb profoundly announced to the world that Jimmie Johnson was not an athlete - yet he ironically had him number 3 on his list of athletes.
To help show those who don't know much about the amount of physical exertion a driver goes through during a race, here is some basic data we collected from IndyCar driver and definite athlete, Josef Newgarden, during a test last month at Barber Motorsports Park.
With the help of Zephyr Technologies, Yellowcog and Sarah Fisher Hartman Racing, we were able to initiate our #ConnectedDriver program and monitor in real-time biometrics such as heart rate, respiratory rate, blood pressure, skin temperature, G-forces and many other parameters.
This video is just the first and simply covers the drivers heart rate and respiratory rate at various sections of the track. With the successful test in the books, we will continue to test with Josef and provide even more measurable biometric parameters - all proving just how athletic one must be to endure the physical and mental stresses put on elite racing drivers.
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The difference between football and auto racing is football only requires 1 ball
Hahahha nice one 👍
Boom.
And need some acting skills so when someone touches your leg you must be able to fly and roll on the ground
Alex Clement yes so true
Hahaha well said
I like the fact the female announcer was like, "hold on wtf did you just say"
She understands the lengths that racers go to race. And I respect that.
She knows better than him
It looked like she was about to smack him
Anyone that says that race drivers are not athletes, clearly have never come close to a race car let alone driven one, to know any better!
***** you walk to your local grocer starting at the same time as who? Where is the competition in getting groceries?
***** And the point the OP makes, is that it does involve a lot more than just sitting in the car. Saying being in shape is needed is twisting it a bit to make it sound like it's a bonus. Theres a lot of physical stress going on, while a high amount of concentration and coordination, is required.
However, actually, if you do it on teh regular and even practice for it, then yes, by definition, anything can be a sport.
How do you define sport then?
***** Yes, i'm aware, and thats perfectly correct, cause Sport is defined not solely by the level of physical abilities, but like i said, the frame and the amount of expertise that is needed. You're free to say that you don't like certain sports, or that some are more professional than others, but completely denying the fact that something is one, is kinda borderline delusional (no offense). In the example of a racecar drivers, just goes to to show, you dont know anything about it. The simple fact that one has to practice for years to be even competitive, says enough about it, and all this put in a frame of competition, is most definitely a sport. Mind you, they don't stay in shape just to be light. The complete weight is predetermined and sometimes drivers even get weight on board to reach that requirement. They have to be fit cause that's a factor that decides who wins or does not. One of the Pioneers, if you will, was Michael Schumacher. He set the bar with his fitness which allowed him to withstand teh G forces and keep up the precision and concentration during a 2h F1 race, that was required every single lap; quite like the great Michael Jordan, actually.
***** Hahahahahahahaha you're such a dumbass!!!
+drake you're a massive idiot these guys don't need to be in shape because they want to be light they need to be in shape so as to not be killed by simply driving the cars for example one of the sprint cars in nascar creates about 2 g's of accelerative pressure on the chest and spine and neck, now for a normal lard ass like you that would crush/snap your bones in said region, next in formula one and indycar while going around a hairpin bend a driver can experience up to 6 g's of lateral force (I believe the record is at 8) if these guys weren't in great physical condition their bodies would literally be turned into paste after the first corner. And finally in nascar their is no such thing as power steering so trying to get one of those cars to hit those massive bends properly requires so much physical strength, the arms of a regular joe like you would be torn and useless yet these guys walk out of those races with their arms still perfectly working. Not to mention that a sprint cup car will spin the second it's touched by another one, trying to hold it by steering requires even more force and I put and if you don't succeed well you may be the victim of between 6 to 9 g's while hitting the wall.
And for those who think those numbers mean jack I'd like to say that during blast off an astronaut will hit 3 to 4 g's while in re entry the astronaut will hit 5 to 6 g's
I'm a race driver and i hate people that say that driving is just easy and stuff. but if you put them in a rental gokart they cry the next day cause of pain in ther arms....
pretty much sums it up..
sven van de wardt They're retards that don't look into things.
sven van de wardt true? i driven karts for 40 minutes straight i was like my hand is hurting like hell
sven van de wardt same I race mini sprints and people that say it isn’t a sport annoys me because they have to be in top condition ex: Jimmie Johnson’s runs marathons and is in really good shape and he *STILL* gets worn out when the track temperature is over 160 or something it justshows how much of a toll it takes on your body and the g forces are insane as well
True. Many don't appreciate it for what is is.
To anyone who hasn't driven a road course or even an oval in these types of cars, the force needed to even turn the wheel is insane. It like holding two 20 pound weights in your hand trying to turn the wheel. You really feel the burn. Try doing that for 3+ hours, while experiencing high G-forces, being strapped into a seat with a fire suit when the car temp is greater than 125 degrees, all while driving really close concentrating because your life depends on it. If race car drivers aren't considered athletes, I honesty don't know who is.
While you only need the strenght of a kid to kick a ball... Lol... And pilots risk their own life to race, W the racing motorsports!
And now imagine 90s CART drivers when the cars were much faster
If you work out ur chillen
I did the math and Lewis Hamilton at a race at Spa would pull approximetaly 425,040 L s of forces from G-force alone, thats 483 per turn, 9660 per lap.
Even NASCAR has some type of skill needed. Because you are on a constant angle, you are putting a lot of pressure on one side of the car. So it's a lot harder to turn or have constant grip.
I hate how a whole bunch of Machos always think, "STRENGTH HURR DURR". Strength makes a sport! There are a lot of sports that have a larger emphasis on coordination, reaction, reading, and other physical/mental skills that are just as demanding as strength. Driving, Riding Motorcycles, Skateboarding, Marksmanship, and whatnot never get the credit they deserve.
hey guys I found bladed angel.
How's the miata?
Even just Karting is a feat in itself, I tried it once, was going at a snails pace and felt like I was going through an earthquake. I could only imagine what Nascar drivers (With its intense High Speed), F1 drivers (Intense G Force and is very demanding mentally and physically), MotoGP drivers (same as F1 and nascar but cut out the G Force) and more feel. Sports don't need to be just about physical capabilities, if that were true then people wouldn't be calling Chess a sport
the real sports are Mountain biking, rock climbing, skateboarding, BMX ing, and motorsports, the rest are childs play
Table tennis at a professional level for example. Watch Fan Zhendong at training and look at his thighs and calfs and you might get an idea of how stressful that sport can be at the top level.
this is the same kind of people that say "football is 22 people running behind a ball"
Bruno Medeot it is but i get your point
"Swimming is people imitating fish"
"Baseball is people hitting a fly with a broom"
"Basketball is people tossing a ball into a hole"
lol
People say that F1 is just driving a car, but in reality you can sum up basically every single sport on the planet in that way.
McNabb doesn't have a clue. F1 drivers (the one in the video isn't even that) are some of the very best athletes in the world.
true, so much so that F1 drivers and motocross riders are the ONLY athlete considered to be fit for an "iron man" race without needing any extra training..as far as i know motocross is considered even to be the second most physical demanding sport in the world..but yeah, on motocross its pretty obvious how much of your body is required..
thats an indy car not an f1 car bur you got the jist of it =P
Let's put him in a formula car and see how fast and tired he will be
i guarantee that he will not be that tired compared to normal driving
Carlton Banks Right. So did you see Hamilton panting out of exhaustion in the Us GP in 2015? Please. Continue being some smug idiot that thinks this is easy.
There are only three sports: mountain climbing, bullfighting, and motor racing...all others being games.
-Ernest Hemingway
Oh i finally found this again
So turns out Hemingway said some dumb shit from time to time, since sports are a subcategory of games.
The reason he separates these three is because at the time race car drivers mountaineers and bull fighters put their lives on the line every time they clocked in for work
@@IntrebuloN and you bet he’s still hella lot smarter than you
NFL:
Shots of players standing around - 67 minutes
Commercials - 63 minutes
Shots of coach, crowd, etc. - 35 minutes
Replays - 15 minutes
Actual game - 11 minutes
well no, it's still very demanding, but I doubt he can withstand 6+ Gs onto his neck.
"put me in one of those cars and i will win" Firstly you need to learn how a manual car works
Nicklas Vinther and how not to stall a race car exiting the pits lol
Lol Donovan McNabb would probably shit his pants going through Eau Rouge or breaking at the first chicane in Monza. Putting your body through constant stress for 2 hours is a lot fucking different than being tired from running a few yards. I played ice hockey for 10 years, arguably one of the more demanding sports, and I now race. I will tell you first hand racing is not only just as physically demanding, but MUCH more mentally demanding as well. Your mind can wander during a hockey game and it would not affect you at all. Wander your mind in a racing car and you will probably end up dead.
How much u wanna bet that any nba or nfl player would beat the fuck out of any nascar driver? Also I guarantee that they would beat them in all facets of athletic measurement.. Sitting on ur ass in a car does not qualify you as an athlete I don't care how fast you are going.. Fuck I've driven my car over 100mph so does that make me an athlete? The type of people who try to say that racecar drivers are on the same athletic level as profession football and basketball players are idiots.. I do like racing but I'm not gonna sit here and say drivers are athletes because they can push a pedal and make a car go fast
And I was first team all state in high school football and now race super dirt late models and there is no way I would say racing is anywhere close to as physically demanding as playing 4 quarters of football
LilWhyteIverson You have to be one of the dumbest people I've ever come across on the internet. There's a bit of a difference in fitness between an amateur super dirt racer and a professional level Indy car driver.
In your sport you wouldn't experience much G force or have to do long races either and your racing class certainly wouldn't be at the level of skill where high physical and mental fitness would play a part like it does at the professional level.
I'd like to see how tired you'd get after a 2 hour race in an open wheel car with slicks. By the sound of it you don't really know how to drive either , the idiots never make it far in motorsport.
Randy Marsh Because its on dirt you really don't get the high g forces and shocks unless you crash and you most probably won't crack 200 mph, If you want a real challenge, go to a tarmac circuit, rent a car with race slicks on it and be consitent for 2-3 hours, Not saying dirt racing is easy, but you should try out the other options before telling anything about them
Formula 1 has an image problem, I was asking my friend do you watch F1 and she was like what is so special about a sport where men race robots to a finish line. What is the cornerstone of an sport is the athletes, tennis rackets generate more power now but we don't say rackets win matches, golf clubs can drive the ball farther now but golfers win championships, shoes are more comfortable now but Usain Bolt is the fastest man alive not his shoes. The problem with F1 with its promotion of cars being super machines people wonder what exactly do the drivers do, yes it must be true that drivers are under a lot of physical and mental stress, but if people don't see that they don't believe it. Why watch a sport where a human irrelevant and a machine does the winning for you. F1 is the most technical sport in the world, you have to be very knowledgeable about cars to even understand the technical aspects of this sport. If a casual person is flicking through the TV and comes across a F1 race, they just see it as a car race where someone needs to get to the finish line first, but if they already hold this belief that F1 is just a game where cars are doing all the work and a man is just guiding it to its finish line then what is so interesting change channel.
Obviously that Football player never drove a car at the limit....sits in a car...lol, his arms would fall off after a couple of laps and his neck would be hurting from g-forces.....he should stick to what he knows...which doesn't seem like very much.
I wonder if he would press the accel pedal at least 70% of its capacity
Well if racing drivers aren't athletes then I guess Alex Zanardi better hand his Para-olympic gold medal back and Nasser Al-Attiyah better give his Olympic bronze medal back.
Being both an avid racing fan and a long distance track and Cross Country runner, I do agree that racing drivers are in fact athletes. Racers have to stand up to 4 hours of driving, with HRs at 180 and BPM at roughly 30+. That is equivalent to a marathon runner. And although it may look easy, it's not. In stock cars, temperatures can be in access of 130 degrees Fahrenheit. That is intense heat coming through the heat shield and into the cockpit. As often as I do have heart rates and BPMs like this, I only do it on average about 20 minutes in a 5K. Racing, in my eyes, is in fact a sport. I mean, I know McNabb played football, but compared to crashes in a racing car, football hits are not as nearly ferocious as many drivers experience in crashes.
Yeah, I went for a 10 minute long go kart race the other day... the time I was finished, I almost collapsed... Im a track runner and sim racer.
Never got that tired from running
I have been racing since a week before my 9th birthday ( This year I turned 60). Many times I hear racers are not athletes and I have 1 reply. Take a hot day (90f+),put on 3 layers of winter clothing(2 ski masks and a wool cap) Roll just 2 front windows down about 2 inches(this simulates the amount of air the aero package lets into the car). Turn the heater on full hot and take a 3 hour trip.
Michael Aumick How do you feel about esports? Do you feel like it is a sport, considering they do the same as drivers except no g forces? Just asking.
To me eSports is what the name implies it is. Electronic Sports. I dont consider the eSports players Athletes but i consider them players. Like someone who plays Chess. It requires skill, its just less demanding physically, but its hard when they compete. If it wasnt hard anyone could reach the top on the category and that its not a fact.
@Moses James I know I agree
RC RACER 88 wow. Just “sitting on our ass” you don’t know the split second decisions people have to make while playing games. Sure you may not have the physical part of being a sport, but the mentality of having to make the correct decision in a extremely short period of time is still there.
@@matt_cake hey ignorant dumbass just because they are sitting does not mean that they are not working their ass off they are pulling 3gs in the corners inside of a race car that can get up to 140 degrees inside there heart rate gets up to that of a marathon runner and they lose upto 12 pounds of water weight each race from sweating so much they are constantly working the clutch and shifting not to mention fighting the steering wheel because the cars are on the edge of control all the time and they have no power steering and are always trying to spin out you are so ignorant so yes racing is a sport and they are athletes it is one of the most physically demanding sports in the world
stick him on a bike around the Isle of Man TT circuit and tell him to do a 130mph average race for nearly 2 hours and see how he goes
Of course race drivers are athletes in their own right, not just mentally but physically too. Especially endurance drivers who race continually for 4 hours with only a few pit stops in between and their heart rate is constantly at 180. Plus the mental capacity. You have to go against your mind in these things. Normal car you'd brake about 150-200m but in a race car you have to go against what your mind is telling you and brake less than 100m before the corner, going from 200mph to 70mph. Cockpit temps can reach 60C and of course the G forces which practically tear you apart. Us the bumpiness of the track which can turn your pelvis into dust.
Race drivers dont get enough credit for what they do. They do so many other sports like cycling, swimming and running and of course gym whenever they have free time just to be fit
In some racing categories the effort required to make it right is from an Elite Athlete.
Even chess need stamina. Classic chess game usually need hours to complete, and one miss in one move will let you lose game. Even best of the best like Kasparov, also blunders.
John doue Quebec chess boxing
people who dont consider this drivers athletes are just plain ignorant and pretencious
Onyx Fire yeah,and if we see it like that : football is people running behind a ball,tennis are two guys making a ball pass above a net,100 m will be just a bunch of guys going from point A to point B
Dont u see,all the sports i named need a real phisical and mental preparation,of course its something everyone can do,but it is put to a level where only some people can run like bolt,drive like hamilton,treat the ball as messi does,play tennis as federer.Thats the point everyone of those are sports and you need an special preparation to practice them
Onyx Fire nascar is car racing just as f1,wtcc,wrc,ect. so if those championship are considered as sports then nascar must be considered as a sport too
Onyx Fire im argentine u idiot.informate antes criticar al pedo capo
Onyx Fire 😂😂 i dont know what am i doing argueing with a racist like you,how can such an idiot person know about sports?😂😂
Onyx Fire How do you know, have you ever driven a nascar for 3 hours straight with ,maybe a few caution laps
Great video. Maybe if more people were aware that racers really are athletes then the popularity of motorsports would increase.
Motorsport has more skill than almost any other sport , don't believe me go try it see how well you do.
doesn't make it a sport though
Neither does football where even a midget with no arms and legs can play
Neither does racing when someone with no arms and legs can drive with the on board computers and air conditioners
Yea it is
Nope
Seems the people here have never driven a car hard.
Go to a go kart track and push as hard as you can for ten minutes, then come back and say it's easy.
Then realise that they're are people who push a hell of a lot harder for more than 2 hours straight.
Because racing takes more than one ball.
HA GOT HIM
He's 10x more of an athlete than that guy. What's he do? Run for 10-15 seconds and then sit around for 10 minutes? Football is so boring it's all just standing around. Indy car, formula, those are real sports.
thank you so much for making this vid it needed to be made
“Racing is not a sport.”
Well if racing is not a sport,why the title called motorSPORTS?
All racing drivers are athletes in my opinion. And I think racing drivers should be getting paid more than footballers! Every time they go out on track they're risking their lives, whereas a footballer isn't! And yet who gets paid millions of £ for kicking a bag of air around... Racing Drivers > Footballers!
Most top racing drivers earn just as much money as other top athletes. Fernando Alonso and Lewis Hamilton for example earn about $28M which makes them some of the best payed athletes in the world.
Yeah it's understandable that F1 drivers are paid a lot, because F1 is so popular and is slowly becoming centred around sponsorship. But I think people racing in lower motorsport divisions, such as Touring Cars and Ginettas should be paid more!
speedsociety NFL and Golf players are the highest paid sportsmen currently.
Tom Pike Actually, last year Floyd Mayweather Jr was paid the highest out of all codes. I believe Fernando Alonso and Louis were both in the top 10 or 15. So yeah not just NFL and golf.
***** I disagree... Formula 1 is the pinnacle of all Motorsport. Not just from a racing view but also an engineering view. Also, F1 drivers are trained to a mental and physical peak, most likely more than any other racing driver. The G-force that is applied onto their bodies is far more superior than any Touring car. Plus, they need to race at such incredible speeds and have reaction times to suit. F1 is one of the most expensive sports in the world because of the technology involved in the Formula, as well as sponsorship.
So, I think that F1 drivers deserve every dollar. To compete at the highest form of racing, I would sure like to be paid more than any other race driver :)
The reason people think motor racing is not that difficult is because they take their own experiences of cars (which is driving their piece of shit in peak hour) and simply apply that to motor racing.
Motor racing, especially F1, is closer to flying fighter jets than the driving we're used to.
It's not that difficult though. No driving is nothing like flying fighter jets
Carlton Banks If it is truly nothing like that than why do I go to a former F-16 pilot trainer for coaching in racing?
F1 driving is not that difficult? Are you serious?
F1 cars are pretty much inverted planes
@@legoldspy6851 alright guys, driving race cars is not difficult because former racing champion and f-16 fighter piolot Carlton banks2616 says so
I took some coworkers to a track I instruct at last summer and had them ride shotgun in my car. It is ok, but definitely not the quickest thing out there and they came out sweating more than I was; big wake up call for a few of them. haha
Of course these guys are athletes ! In F1, seconds before the start of the race, on the grid, heart beats goes over 200 ! Most of the time, they lose between 10 and 15 lbs of water during one race that lasts 1:30 hours... My national sport in Canada is hockey and we know what's an athlete... Pilotes are and God bless them for practicing that crazy sport that makes us totally insane fans !
That wouldn't even last in a shifter kart let alone a single seater
The fitter and lighter you are, the bigger the advantage over people with the same skill but worse physical shape you have in racing. For that reason, many racers keep themselves in EXCELLENT shape.
I always knew this but I'm always shocked how fast their brain and all other organs have to work in order to do all this... now imagine how F1 drivers feel when racing in narrow streets of Monaco... damn
And no I'm not trying to start a discussion what racing is better, I just think that Monaco is a bit harder to driver than this track :)
i understand what you mean, but as a racing driver i can tell you that it is a "personal" thing..for ME for example, monaco isnt stressfull at all, because since i am a rally driver, driving fast in tight places is what i am used to..but then this track is very scary, specially with that kind of race car in the video..he is cutting blind corners there, cornering over crests and "hills" at insane speeds...some might agree with you, but IMO monaco is fairly easy because even tho the track is very tight, the track is also very visible, so hitting the correct line isnt that hard..but the track on the video you dont always see the lines, and you def going way faster then in monaco (with same/similar cars, of course)...and yes, i know what i am saying because i have driven monaco..
Driftuner Well I just thought that Monaco is harder, I know that rate goes higher than in any other race; but I can't say because I'm not a pro driver :)
Driftuner
I'd say the legendary "green hell" (Nordschleife) would be the scariest place to race on with these kinds of cars, but that's probably why they don't.
Baja002 There are more intense street courses then Monaco. Indy has run on some.
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I went gokarting with some friends last fortnight. I consider myself to be relatively healthy but even in a 125kmh kart my whole body aches after an hour, my shoulders feel like they’re popping out from having to hold onto the wheel for dear life. I was sweating through the seams of my jacket, and I could barely catch my breath by the end. That was in a gokart that goes 1/3 the speed of an F1 car. These dudes are athletes period.
i drove 40 mph rental karts and i was aching everywhere after I did 2 heats which is like 20 or so laps in total, i feel like I did a whole leg day workout because of the pressure I had to put on the brakes as I was pushing that kart
@@ammarisrar2005 oh yeah the legs were an absolute state too, now I know why De Vries needed help being carried out of his car a few weeks ago
It's not surprising that the max respiratory number and a heartrate of 190 bpm were seen in turns 8/9. The elevation change rate there is crazy, even on a bike the corner is nearly blind, and it opens onto an uphill straight, so you have to get it right, or you're slow all the way to 12....
Just to remind everyone who has commented on this video, this is just the first test of Rising Star Racing's #ConnectedDriver program. The overlay of Josef's heart rate and respiratory rate were just the very basics and the first test of the technology used to record these biometrics. This is about as basic as the video will get with the data we can record off Josef.
Stayed tuned for more videos like this - more videos that go to show just how physically and mentally fit of an athlete you need to be in order to drive a race car at this level. Once we work in other real-time biometrics such as blood pressure, skin temperature, G-forces and many other parameters, it will paint a much clearer picture. I believe showing fans the heavy G loads the drivers body endures for 2+ consecutive hours (3-4G's under braking and corning), while driving at 200+ MPH, with a heart rate of 190 beats per minute, 35+ breaths per minute, as well as a couple dozen cars inches away from you, forcing you to make split second decisions - well, that will truly show someone like Josef's athleticism.
Thanks for all of the comments so far. We enjoy each and every one of them and keep them coming.
And I'm beat and exhausted after a handful of ~15 minute sprints during one track day.... Not to mention in rather excessive pain and seem to find new muscles the next morning that are beyond sore!
+XCNuse I was an amateur cyclist who could turn 50 miles at 2 1/2 hours any night of the week when I started racing FF1600 and FMazda. You have to be fit to be able to survive the G-forces and keep your concentration. I doubt that most football players could even fit in a formula car much less turn 15 conservative laps at a competitive pace. You neck hurts, your shoulders hurt and your entire body is sore the next day. A race weekend at 100° will make anyone pant like a puppy.
looks like many of you, along with mcnabb, need to go pick up a dictionary and read the definition of "athlete". let me help you out, straight from merriam-webster: "[an athlete is]a person who is trained or skilled in exercises, sports, or games requiring physical strength, agility, or stamina.
lets break it down:
are drivers skilled? yes
is racing an exercise, sport, or game? yes
does it require physical strength, agility, or stamina? yes
for those of you who have never taken your prius to your local track, sustaining the physical forces that drivers have exerted on them for 3 or more hours is more muscle strain then most of these footballers ever see. 3 or 4 Gs in braking and cornering, that's like having a 40 pound bowling ball of a head. for over 3 hours. very few GT class or higher have power steering, have you ever tried to turn a ford around with no power steering? 3+hours of that.
and training. footballers have what, a 7 week training camp, followed by a 13 week season? (regular season, not including playoffs). most professional drivers train and refine their skills with their team everyday, for 10 months out of the year. not including the same sponsorship responsibilities that footballers have, meeting with shareholders, press releases, autograph signing parties... and lastly, there are videos here, on youtube, of driver fitness programs (from ferrari, mclaren, nascar, mercedes, porsche, many others) showing just how much *physical* exercise is required from professional team drivers. *every* single driver ever interviewed on the the subject will tell you how much teams focus on driver's health, and physical upkeep, to the extent of miles of running, calisthenics, weight training, and agility, the very same things that mr. mcnabb here does for 7 weeks at his eagles training camp, or whoever he plays for this year (lol there is a joke there, see it?)
Thank you for that!! I mean did you ever see some of those football players??!! They're fat!! People have no idea until they try it for themselves. I love Indycar racing, but there is no freaking way I'm gonna get in a car going over 230mph! The g forces are through the roof! Their body temp goes over 103 during certain races, and if people weren't morons and read he description with the video, they would shut their mouths and stop saying that heart rate and respirations are not an accurate means of determining what an athlete is. It says right there that they are aware that showing that doesn't really prove anything and they will be showing OTHER factors that prove what determines wether race car drivers are athletes.
By that definition, guess my 67 year old mom is an athlete with all that yoga she's been doing
Jeffrey Lund you are so dumb NASCAR drivers are athletes even more so than football or basketball players and you are comparing your fat useless 67 year old mother to racing drivers the best athletes
RC RACER 88 Tony Stewart is the most athletic man on the planet.... said nobody ever. Dude u r so smart
redsoxboy look at NASCAR stars like Carl Edwards and Jimmie Johnson they are in top physical condition
F1 drivers have prolonged exposure to high G forces and temperatures for little over an hour. This results in an average F1 driver losing about 4kgs of weight after just one race.
In F1 high G-forces are temporary, go race a high-speed oval and you'll know what it's like to be exposed to 5-6 lateral G's for 3 1/2 hours at 230+ mph steady.
man i feel the rush and increase in heart rate when im just driving my 370z lol
F1 is a sport that can surely keep you in top notch fitness.
I would love to see mcnabb get into an indycar and try to drive at competitive speeds.
he wont be able to make it through a lap without crying on the radio that his neck and forearms are dead
for those of you that think racing is not athletic, do yourself a favor and go look up the training regimen for F1 drivers.
Racing drivers go through an insane amount of Gforce. It takes alot of training to withstand even 10 laps with it. And thinking that they have a risk of dying, proves that racing drivers are more than people driving cars fast. Motorsport is arguably one of the hardest sports in the world and one of the most dangerous too
And keep in mind that the footage shown here is of an Indycar, which is nowhere near as fast as a F1 car. racing drivers are definitely athletes
woah 190 bpm his heart is barely contained by his rib cage
My heart rate doesn't even get up to 180 when jogging on a treadmill, this guy's in much better shape and is well over that, I'd wager that racing is one of the most intense *athletic* forms of competitions available, physically and mentally.
Especially mentally, people sometimes underestimate mental games that go on between drivers.
I love how of all sports the guy could've played, it was football. I consider the athletisicm needed for a sport with the following: The average joe has the athleticism and fitness to play to play a full football game, maybe even 2 back-to-back. That same joe, wouldn't last 5 laps in a race car, let alone the usual 30+ laps in a full race. Mcnabb sounds like a real prick. Do you know what a G force is Mcnabb? you know science Mcnabb?
I Banach-Tarski'd my balls I'd love to watch him try to keep up with a formula 1 driver. He probably wouldn't even get the car off the line. He would be terrified out of his mind if he did though!
TheStig ZeroZeroZero he wouldn't last more than 5 laps of the monaco gp if i'm certain
Some times when I have a nightmare my heart starts bearing fast too, does that make me an athlete?
Ascendancy well no, you are not. But that will definitely wake you up from sleep
thats different
dream: boost of adrenalin because your scared
racing increase in heart rate because of physical work
Jeez. Really hate it when people say racing is 'just siting in a car and driving'. Try Karting (not the fairground ones, real ROTAX). You'll understand after about 3 laps.
VictorySpecification Rotax? Wait a second, no, no, It can't be, NOT THE MOJOS, NOOOOO
the only time McNabb ever got his heart rate up that high was when he was about to choke and throw an interception.
haha..this McNab character needs take a trip to his nearest kart track..I bet he'll change his tone after 10 minutes
Donny boy couldn't handle an LMP or GT car, let alone a Formula car. Guy would be dead tired after 10-15 minutes. Donovan was a QB, which means he burned like 900-1200 calories, maybe a little more since he ran a lot, per game, maximum. Compare that to the 3000 an F1 driver burns in one race over a shorter period of time. NFL athletes are near the bottom of the heap when it comes to fitness in pro sports. I think only like basketball and one other sport comes in lower on energy conversion, and golf isn't one of them. Food for thought.
We are athletes
No you are not
Carlton Banks
Yes, they are
Racing is not a sport they say, then do it. Try not to crash in one lap. While withstanding 3-6Gs of force.
This reminds me of another video with Allan McNish Eliminating luck
Good job dispelling the belief that racing drivers aren't athletes.
A professional musician (I speak of violinists and such) is also an athlete. It's definitely not a life threatening risk they take, but getting all the notes right in a hard piece is just ridiculously difficult.
Everyone who pushes himself to the limits in sports, music/arts, teaching, nursing etc. is kind of an athlete.
i mean the mental strength you need to play at the right notes at the right time must be overwhelming no? i dont have any experience in music other than listening to it so...
actually, I'd say that QB is the single worst position in football to be talking smack about athleticism. Their job is to stand there for two to five seconds and throw the ball or hand it to someone else.
Ayrton Smith QB is considered the hardest position in sports. You're the leader of the team, you have to memorize a very complicated playbook but also memorize the defensive tendencies of the team you're playing, then during the play you have about 3 seconds to try and find a open receiver standing behind 5 guys that are 6'5. Plus you have big defensive lineman running at you trying to get a big hit on you
You think the rest of the team doesn't memorize plays?
And my point was about physical athleticism. QB's don't get to even start to discuss mental workload with a racing driver. Maybe a drag racer, but that's about it. Drivers have to memorize track layouts, changes, (in most series) actively adjust the setup and analyze the results, enter turns with tenths of seconds between yourself and another driver with their car blocking your usual reference points, know whether to conserve fuel and to what degree, keep tabs on what drivers you're actually racing for position, whether you need to push this lap or wait for clear track, know whether you're in the aero wake, know whether you'll put yourself in the marbles if you make a move in this turn, whether the marble build-up is very bad, be aware of your own strategy while tracking others', and even checking tires in the mirrors and ahead to detect a puncture or leak before it becomes disastrous.
A linebacker or a running back can try to talk smack about athleticism, but a QB is the last person that should comment on the load that a driver has on them.
Ayrton Smith I see your point but often when QBs are hit they don't have time to brace for impact and they're standing while running backs of linebackers are moving towards the thing they are hitting. Also the quarterback has to memorize what every player on the field is doing where as the other 10 just (usually) only have to memorize what they have to do
I also see what you're trying to say, but I still disagree. If you want to talk about big hits, a wall at 200mph is way more than any backer could ever hit (and I've chewed up some QB's in my day).
And a QB has to remember a bit more than the others, I'll concede that, but you realize that the O-lineman have to remember the details of every running play, right? They have to know who is whose assignment, who's pulling, who's cutting, and find tells of a blitz. The QB has a fair workload, but I just hate when it's so hyper inflated.
It's common sense that braking and steering require more force at higher speeds, right?
No
Carlton Banks So being in the majority makes you feel better because that knowledge is therefore not common sense.
Driving a kart is even tiring
To Drive a F1 you need to do lot of cardio (the majority of F1 drivers do tetralon) and weight lifting with the neck and arms. You must pass a test in the hyperbaric chamber! You must be very thin and lightweight. While racing you can't breed through the braking area and corners because of the high G forces, you must use the straights to recorver from the abscense of oxigen. It's like driving a F-4 jet plane on the tarmac. There is no soft damping, no confort, you have a fire proof race suit, an helmet and an Hans Device and no ventilation sistem to cool you down or evaporate your sweat. The TOP GT drivers hav intense workouts, imagine a F1 driver... Real Karting is very demanding, this guy should try it!!
/watch?v=QgSc41-bRHo
OR TAKE F1 DRIVERS... IN MALAYSIA OR SINGAPORE THEY LOSE ABOUT 3 LITERS OF WATER FROM THEIR BODIES... THEY FINISH THE RACE 3 KG LIGHTER... NOT ATHLETES, MY ASS..
wonder what rookie drivers heart rate goes up to when they go through the CorkScrew or Eau Rouge for the first time
i have been in a car that drove fast, and you really feel your heart beat like crazy
Golf is a sport but racing is not. Sure.
lol try to crash an f1 car at eau rouge at 330 km/h or drive an f1 car around, belgium, Monaco,Baku,Turkey,Russia and Monza. Let's see if you crash at the first lap or not, that's why i hate NFL, Playing "football" with hands eventhough that is not football
I'd love to see JJ take McNabb on a ride-along and see what he thinks afterward.
You can't compare race driving and exercising as the same efforts. Driving is more of a stress level that's why your heart rate and breathing goes up while exercising is just a different level of efforts in terms of your heart and lung works.. I'm a cyclists and I race and ride 100 miles on a bicycle and I also occasionally track my car( mitsubishi evo x) so I personally can tell the difference. Being fit as a cyclist will be a big help in racing cars but everybody can drive fast and raise their heart level at 189 bpm but not everybody can ride a bicycle for 100 miles. Not the same IMO
With equal cars and skill, the fitter driver will win.
i am a racer and i had to start working out as soon as i started. And before that i played football. Football is nothing compared to that. F@@# who doesn't think racing is a sport.
+Classy Gamer and Sports Racing is not a sport bc the vehicle does ALL the work. I grew up in Atco, NJ. I went the world renowned Atco Raceway ALOT, its not a sport, car does all the work.
+Classy Gamer and Sports Plus, how hard is it do drive fast turn left? thats all they do. Not hard at all.
but they pull 2.5 g's all the time.
you never drove shifter karts.
an f1 driver burns 1,400 calories each race.
Professional rave drivers are athletes because they seek maximum fitness.
Motor racing is all about concentration.
Concentration depends on being able to think of nothing but the job at hand without any external influences.
Signals of pain or fatigue will most certainly break a racing driver's concentration because the body associates these signals with survival giving them priority over anything else.
Therefore the fitter a racing driver is, the longer it will take for these synptoms to set in, the more concentrated and therefore faster he will be.
The most dedicated F1 drivers could not be any fitter if they wanted to.
Great vid! Seems DM has seen too many Ricky Bobby movies.
LOL NASCAR...that is completely different than F1.
This isnt even F1..
Rofl gg. How about I'm not nerd enough to go google the different types of differences between open wheel race cars and f1 is easy to type. You're talking to someone who grew up in Silverstone, do you know what that is?
screwloose455
Silverstone has a damn nice track, that's for sure
screwloose455 you srsly don't have to be a nerd...
and nascar is also fucking hard on your body too
edit( the races are also longer, meaning more driving and strain)
Athlete is somebody with a superior speed or body movement, this is a great eye and hand coordination and G force toleration but no body parts are athletic, still very hard and impressive, not like golf...
Matthew Spencer
Great so lets have bear belly dart players and snooker players as athletes!
Golf is already in, but not in my book, if an 80 year old can compete with young guys that is not athleticism!
On racing, I would say these guys are more endurance than athleticism! They are skilled and can endure g force good. And they are not moving the cars, the engine is! So no its not the same as endurance running...
But if you allow anybody to be an athlete than its not special any more, a golf player is in the same league than a 100m runner, pathetic!
Matthew Spencer one thing is what you are capable as an individual the other thing is what the sport requires from you! You can be athletic yet play golf, that does not make golf an athletic sport! Racing is difficult, but in another way!
Ok.. so i have my own Kart and race it.. by no means at all is it crazy fast at all, top speeds of 85-90 KMPH but after 3 to 4 10 minute stints with breaks in between i am exhausted and muscles start to cramp.. and no I'm not unfit use to play football every weekend and train 3 times a week and I am more fucked after a days racing than i ever was playing football
Andy Leigh
exactly you endured it, and if you stay on your feet your whole day, you will be useless the next day, that does not make it an athletic endeavor!
I do stay on my feet all day, i work 6 days a week 9 hour days at the moment doing physical labor and come home feeling fine and still go out for a drink and wake up fine, after a race i come home and fall into bed and wake up as if a ran a marathon, Honestly i use to think the same way until i got into it and could understand somewhat of what they would have to do to prepare for the events they do
Try driving a properly powered kart at full intensity for 20 minutes on a track with high-speed corners and undulations. Wear a heart rate monitor. If you are giving it full beans you will be surprised at how physical it is. I have decent cardiovascular fitness with a resting heart rate of around 60bpm. When attacking or defending intensely for a position, my heart rate goes all the way to 190bmp at times. And that's karting
Omg that looks like so much fun!!! What track?
Barber Motorsports Park
Agree that racing drivers are athletes, but this is literally the stupidest way of proving it I have ever seen.
A fat person's heart beats that fast when he sees a McDonalds, doesn't make him an athlete...
They dont keep that heart beat rate and level of pure concentration for 2 to 3 hours.
OMG ! So true ! You made me laught as never
you do realise that you hear as a young person should NEVER go over 180 bpm because you stroke and die? keep more than taht for 5 hours! and it does show the stress on the body.
Thats what I thought too
Yeah, but it doesn't beat almost 10 beats faster than someone who gets jumpscared by FNAF. And his heart isn't beatin, because he is having a heart attack.
formula one probably the hardest sport ( because of the amount of gs being pulled through the race) followed by motorcross then motogp.. football? HAHAHAH my fucking grandma can play football. you break every 15 seconds not to mention i played in middle and highschool its fucking cake.
+WolfBraapR6 i was just scrolling the comments and i saw yours associated with motoX. i think motocross and motogp go ahed of f1 now because of the speeds and lengths of the races are insane. you pull the same amount of g's on a motorcycle but you are engaging your core the whole time trying not to fall off. have you ever tried just maxing out a jetski for 30 minutes. it sucks the next day because you are holding on to your life.
The amount of G's pulled in motogp are not the same in F1. But putting in account for the stomach muscles i didnt think about so yeah it can be harder
i just said that because i saw an isle of man video. holy crap look it up.
Most people couldn't handle even being a passenger in an Indycar or Nascar Stockcar for a full race distance. I know that just 8 laps around that track (Barber) on a motorcycle wears me out.
I think there is a difference between Nascar and road racing. Nobody can say that driving at Talladega is the same level of stress than drving at Long Beach or Laguna Seca
If race car drivers are athletes then so are chess players
+Timothy Sweezey Stop it with you're opinion. Chess takes no strength/endurance, It extremely mental. I've been racing since I was 7 years old (im 13 now) I still race karts (not Nebs Fun World, 125cc 24hp karts) and I raced 3 hours a day for 6 days, my arms fell off after that. Mind you im extremely fit. So lets calculate that (weight x G-force= Turn in weight (in lbs) 320 lbs (my kart) x 3 G-Force = 960 lbs per corner. There was 12 corners at the track I just raced in and an average of 14 elsewhere. So 12x960 = 11520lbs ONE LAP. multiply that by 25 laps (race & average practice) 11520 x 25 = 288000lbs per race and practice! Only in KARTING, could you imagine F1 (Formula One)????? Huh, is you're brain okay after that math lesson?
chess players are mental athletes.
well, the average race driver is in better shape than the average basketball player and requires more exercise through any race than the best basket player through a final
Solis190491 actually I would argue against that. The average % body fat in the NBA is between 6 and 9 which is really damn impressive
JawlessStig and mark Webber and Fernando Alonso and nico rosberg
How could anyone think this is true? A racecar driver and NBA player aren't even on the same planet when it comes to athleticism.. honestly the only form of car racing where all driver must work out to keep a certain amount of fitness to drive at their full potential is formula 1..
Prestigiator and wec and DTM and formula e and super formula and indycar and all endurance races
and rallying
I'm surprised I haven't seen anyone talk about how hot it can get when racing. Especially with Nascar since you don't have the wind blowing at you like with open cockpit cars. They've put monitors in the cars during races before and it can get well past 120 degrees
Because heat isn't a big deal when it comes to the world of Nascar. They also just started to implement air condition in the cars
@@carltonbanks2616 well only their heads are being cooled, not the rest of their bodies, they have cold oxygen going into the helmets and even in Indycar, they have a hose which has oxygen going in but their torso, legs, and arms are beyond hot id imagine
I think it's amazing how well people can handle cars and I admire that. That being said, my heart rate and respirations are elevated when I'm scared. Hell, a good movie will do that. An athlete is someone involved in physical exercise. If a race car driver is an athlete, then so are drummers and many other types of musicians. Once again, I admire what a race car driver does, I doubt I could ever do it, but as someone who loves exercise and working out, I don't know if its enough of a physical toll.
Unlike race car drivers, Moto riders experience more physical demands.
Your opinion seems biased but I will pretend that is not the case
1.F1(and other forms of open wheel racing) is far more demanding in every possible way physically and mentally then moto racing.
2.Do you have the possibility of driving into a wall at around 320kmh?
3.There is a reason there is fewer F1(Including all the formula divisions) drivers then motocross, because its requires greater skill and physical endurance that some drivers just cant cope with.
4.Please retract that statement, that is all.
James Mosher get a life.
Win
James Mosher Your comment is false for one reason:
You never tried a bike.
The MotoGP and F1 speeds are almost the same; the g-force applied to you is far more demanding when riding a bike because the g-force is applied to a well defined part of your body: arms, shoulders and neck; active parts when you ride a bike. In F1 the g-force is applied to all your body, with the neck a bit more exposed to these forces; however, the neck, is not a part of the body used to drive.
Also, riding a bike, is far more demanding in terms of focus, an error and your out of the race whilst if the car doesn't hit the barriers, you can keep going.
Regarding the numbers of single unites per categories, F1 has "fewer" cars than motocross only for one reason: Costs.
A formula one costs as much as on entire grid of Motocross bikes, if not even more.
Furthermore, thinking in that way, almost every endurance race is much less demanding than a f1 race, since there must be 3-4 times the cars involved in an f1 race; which is absolutely not the truth.
With all of this, i am not saying f1 drivers are comfy in they're seats, i am saying that f1 (racing cars) and motogp (racing bikes) are equally demanding, both physically and mentally.
Andrea Lumpp My appologies, i was reffering to motocross which is what i am assuming ricecake is reffering to due to the videos on his youtube channel. I dont beleive i ever mentioned motogp.
Wait, is this in just a hotlap or an "average" lap in a race? 180-190 BPM for 2+ HOURS?! That is marathon level there!
its just a test, which is pretty unrepresentive of an actual race. This looks like a "push" lap. in a race, the first few laps are 100% full beans, but eventually they settle into a rhythm / groove. but def a physical challenge but the mental acumen required is up their with fighter pilots tbh
i race ka100 go karts and im more out of breath with those than when i played football. its nerve racking being in first with a field of 25 karts behind you.
This is true and many more people should be aware of it.
This is from bladed Angel "with motor sports you don't play with a ball you are the ball" f1 drivers can have 5 g's pushed into them in corners.
Indy drivers on a high speed oval get 5-6 lateral Gs for 3 1/2 hours on a consistent basis.
Then factor in the heat and mental aspect. Wrap yourself in a 3 layer suit and gloves, fire proof underwear , balaclava and helmet . The cars I drive have little to no heat barrier as a road car has. Now ad in the heart rate.
Remember in many sports if you miss the shot no biggie , if I miss the apex .... Big consequences .
Mr. Duck, your comment shows how little you understand about exertion and effort plus the longevity of said exertion. Football, for example probably has simpler heart and breathing rates during plays which last 10-30 seconds in length. A racing driver operates at those heart and breathing rates for as little as 30 minutes for amateur racing drivers like myself to 2-5 hours at a stretch for Indy Car, NASCAR and other racing drivers. Both are athletes, both work on all aspects of their body to increase their ability to do their job.
lol this is just a test, a race is whole different level
Bruh... That comment was ridiculous. Anyways this is a fantastic video!
The definition of "Athlete" and "Sport" is so broad that anyone or anything can fit into these categories.
excuse me but someone who runs into another person and then has to take a 15 minute break or someone who hits a ball, then runs about 15 meters and then waits 3 to 5 minutes until the next bloke hits another ball isn't an athlete to me, too.
I race go karts and after 4 stints of 2.5 hours in and endurance race, I cannot physically take my own suit off, a full day later I can barely move my shoulders.
Race car drivers experience 5 times the G force kart racers do, they are full blooded athletes make no mistake.
their hearts working just much as their car engines - high revs all the time baby!
which track is this?
Barber Motorsports Park
when i am at school all the girls think that cheerleading is a sport and they are like racing is so easy you just drive its way more of a sport then cheerleading
is what world is pushing someone for 10 seconds then having a 5 minuet break harder than driving a 200mph race car for an hour with not a single second to rest
look at how much of a difference the heart beat is before and after a turn... its kinda freaky