My 2024 Chinese Grand Prix Quali + Sprint Report // Tommo's Race Chinwag
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- Опубликовано: 19 апр 2024
- Round 5 of the 2024 Formula 1 Season is here, and we went Sprinting! Let's talk about it.
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Apologies for the apparent audio/video desync issues. Not sure what that is, or why it happened. Will have to look into it, sorry!
No problem mate, you're understandable that's most important
Must’ve been the trots
Tommo be careful there is an elephant in the room
hahaha, nice one
First time the elephant in the room isn't Lance Stroll.
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This sprint was a great advertisement for reverse-grid order. The jumbled up quali order resulted in a really interesting and enjoyable sprint race.
Some good, aggressive, risky, wheel to wheel to racing.
Rain always does give us something.
Sure. But if we're reversing the grid, then points should be awarded for quali, the sprint results should dictate the starting grid for the race, and fewer points should be given for the sprint.
@@Yes-vh7lm Single quali, standard order for the race and reversed for the sprint?
I have never understood the reversed grid proposition. It punishes those who are doing well, for doing well. You then use the result of that, for the actual Grand Prix?
The necessity to punish better teams and drivers, is senseless to me personally. Seems a bit like pity points.
I would rather teams have FP2 and FP3 than have sprint format for “entertainment” purposes. Though I suppose many watch for drama and entertainment alone.
@@andresmartinezramos7513 Ehh, I feel like that punishes drivers who qualify well in the sprint a bit too harshly. Would seem quite unfair in a genuine championship battle. But if fewer points are given out for the sprint, and the finishing order in the sprint dictates the starting order in the race, then it actually makes sense.
Lance is singlehandedly making Merc 4th in the team standings. And the biggest spread in points between teammates
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Funny how the average gap is still so close to checo. It just shows how bad Checo would look in a aston next to max or Alonso if he would be in a RB.
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The Mercedes are the 4th fastest car so would finish P4 anyway
@@ehrlichgesagt863 What point are you trying to make. He's already looking bad next to Max. The team changing to Aston with the same teammate or Alonso wouldn't change much from what's actually happening. Even so, he's looking A LOT better so far this season than he was at the middle end end of last season.
I actually thoroughly enjoyed this sprint. Especially Quali. Just don’t want it every weekend 😁
That's fair, I agree. 6/24 I think works for me.
Appreciate you turning up on your hols mate x
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Hulk and Bottas just casually humiliating Lance, again.
In much worse cars. Alonso 3rd in both quali and stroll out twice in Q2 is a bad result
😬😬😬
Checo is really making a strong case for a new contract at RB, the chemistry is good between him and Max and he is delivering what they need him to do. I don’t really see the point in potentially messing up something that is running so smoothly
He's definitely turned a corner, and just in time too.
My banger drive from Riccardo isn’t necessarily true yet, but he is doing better than yuki so far. I’ll take that as a win
It's the first real positive sign of the season for him.
@@TommoOnRUclips indeed. I’m not a big Riccardo fan but I hope he doesn’t end his career like this, I hope he ends with a bang
Funny . . . we have the same T-shirt!!
A man of good taste Robert.
The reason the Stewart’s invalidated the time was because the last iteration of china did not have gravel at the last turn, so it could actually provide an unfair advantage. So going by the last time they were at china it would be correct to invalidate it, but because gravel was added they had to change the rules.
Easily the best quali session since at least 2021, and quite a solid sprint race. Agree with everything you said regarding the Lando start as well- I think Andrea pointed out that these moves happen exactly because of that car deficit, I think Lando might've thought 'ok, I have have an opportunity if Lewis and Fernando can defend for a couple of laps here'. Ultimately if he wasn't ahead by turn 1, it's not happening at all, and even then it's probably not with Max in 4th just behind. But with that McLaren straight line speed (or rather lack there of) I don't think overtaking Merc by following is that easy for them, he certainly would lose a lot of time. Personally I'd say Sprint shootout 10/10 (crazy session) and Sprint race 8.5/10 (lots of great scraps but a few quiet laps and ultimately the Max win felt and was inevitable)
@tommoonyoutube for the head to head can you add each driver's average grid position? Would be interesting to see the time delta and grid delta.
VCARB gave Daniel the new chassis and gave Yuki his(DR3) old chassis
Daniel has a new chassis for sure, but I don't think Yuki got his old chassis.
The beard Tommo!!! It's looking very nice 👌🏾
17:09 The sprint entices the drivers to push harder. I doub Alonso makes that move on Sainz if it was the actual race.
Well yeah, if he did he would carry damage the whole race, there is more points to lose ect. This is what f1 wants the sprint to be
11:20 Alonso did get 3 penalty points. The language about 10 second time penalty was odd, as if stewards wanted to do more than merely add to driver's "elapsed time."
The beard is bearding
I left my clippers at home, so I'm going with the full beardy.
Keep it bearding I'd say!
You just need to wear a red flanny and some overalls and turn yourself into a lumberjack
Great video! you have a new subscriber....
The beard is lookin good mate
The thing about Lando’s lap in SQ3 was that he went yellow yellow green on his pole lap because he was 7 tenths up on the lap before in the first two sectors🤣
Damn
That beard has phenomenal potential, Tommo.
Already itchy, not sure if I can handle it much longer Glen haha!
@@TommoOnRUclips I assume you already use it but beard oil is a saviour for me in that awkward middle period.
I’m Digging Tommos barbarian beard
Q1 was crazy, i think the stat was p1 to p19 covered by 1.004 seconds.
One issue with taking the fastest lap from the same session that both teammates completed for your qualifying head-to-head is when the two teammates do a different number of runs. For example Alonso often only does one run in Q1/Q2 (including today), so his gap over Stroll who does do a second run isn't as big as it would be if Fernando also did a second run.
True, but I think this is the fairest way to compare with a generalised rule across the board. It's never going to be perfect, but over the course of an entire season, it should level out.
First time listener in the car earlier. Almost as good !
Bit harsh on Sargeant in sprint quali. Yeah he was p20, but he was only a tenth behind his teammate at a track he'd never been to before - that's actually pretty good. Yeah he shouldn't have spun in quali but fuck me, would it kill people to give the kid some credit when he does do well?
I wish the format was the feature race grid was set by the sprint results.
1 view in 51 seconds? Washed
dead channel
My bottom 5 drivers:
16th - Ricciardo
17th - Kmag
18th - Stroll
19th - Zhou
20th - Sargeant
I think the Alonso penalty is a bit ridiculous. Not to be a "back in my day" but 10 years ago I don't think anyone would have even looked at that twice as anything other than a bit of scrappy desperate racing. Ten seconds is way overboard.
Both Alonso penalties today and in Melbourne are a joke.
What suprise you about Ocon been ahead of Gasly. Ocon is better. The only reason Gasly was ahead for a few points last year was because Ocon had 7 dnfs.
Ocon starting to become underrated, remember he gave Alonso a proper challenge as teammates
You could've included the sprint qualifying results up to SQ2 for the quali averages. Just ignore the rain affected SQ3 and judge based off the dry SQ2 times.
Ignore reality?
crazy how far Logan is off the pace
I love your accent.
That's a funny mic!
Beard is great
I’m really starting to get the feeling that Landos legacy is going to be that guy that has all the potential and talent in the world but never gets a race win
he'll get wins, and maybe even a WDC if he lands a good car and Piastri doesnt bear him by then. But its quite clear he's not Max, Lewis or even Nando material.
I still think Piastri and Charles are the main dangers to Max's dominance.
@@daarom3472 Charles is the biggest threat RN. Piastri wont be a threat for another couple of seasons at least until he sorts out his race pace issues.
Lando always cracks when its time to go for the lead. Hes brilliant up to p2, but everytime its time to make a move, he just sort of fizzles out.
He wont get a win at this rate without a dominant car or a miracle
@@dylanburston7453 agreed on your assessment. Piastri needs to become better at managing tires but his style means he's god a really high ceiling.
Then again he's young but not THAT young. At similar ages Lewis and Max were beating their teammates and fighting for wins.
@@daarom3472 You can make direct comparisons to Piatri, Leclerc and Verstappen.
I said to someone last year that he needs to work on his race pace.
Leclerc controlled the weekend in just his 2nd race for Ferrari (his 23rd race overall) an was going to win before on of his cylinders failed.
Max won his first race for RB (his 24th race overall) and controlled the race once the dominant mercs rammed each other off.
Piastri has only showed genuine pace like that on one weekend, quatar 2023, but that comes with a asterix because the tyre wear was so high, it neutralised his big weakness.
Piastri has the raw pace, he just needs to refine it, and so far he hasnt been able to do that. IMO, he really needs to get on top of it by the summer break
Landoberg
Not sure how I feel about Beardy Tommo
Zhou-Bottas quali head to head does not show the whole picture like how their race h2h doesn't. Apart from Saudi, where it was Zhou's own fault for crushing in FP3, Zhou always got the bad luck in quali when Bottas got the worse luck in race. The team needs to sort out their operations. Looks like they can't manage to get two cars running smoothly at the same time in all sessions. Kind of like how Tommo described Merc in this video except that nobody notices Sauber since their cars are slow.
Yo tommo
Do you watch motogp? If so, would you consider making videos on it some time in the future?
Alonso gave us one of the best silly seasons a couple years back and he has now ruined what was set up to be a wild silly season 😂😂 get you a man that can do both
i like the beard tommo :)
deffo yes to the bear!
I think atp the only defense for Logan is how bad the car is. We don’t know how easy/hard it is to drive that Williams. Bearman jumped into a fast Ferrari and Liam was in a mediocre Alphatauri. I think they are both better than Logan but I feel like that has to be put into consideration
Hamilton should have kept Alonso in drs range then they might have had change to keep Max in the check
Thats an alonso masterclass, i doubt HAM was even paying attention to what was happening behind
HAmpton was busy doing some experiments for the team.
I think its obvious now that Lewis uses the setup change as an excuse every time he is beaten by George. Even Nico called him out on that today.
Maybe too out of 10 ratings for sprints in future?
“72 Mercedes, 42 Merc” 😭😭
Bottas back to Merc!
As others have said, the beard looks good. Treat it as well as you treat the rest of your hair and it should stay that way, and feel soft. I am sure your wife will appreciate it :D
The Spanish Civil War for Sunday is going to be insane. I think Sainz is going to win over Alonso.
It's RB20 bro not RB19
Lando is the next generation hulkenberg
I see your logic but he’s better than Hulk!
@@alexbentley4087na hulk is better than
@@ModelFossilist we shall see when Lando wins a title ;)
Nah Lando has podiums
Lando is a good driver, but he's overrated.
He shines in the upper-midfield, but whenever he can fight for more, he's likely to fail
The beard will be investigated after the race.
You said McLaren will be bad. 😢😢😢😢😢😢😢
You lot all laughed at Goatifi, well you aren't laughing now.
With regards to Tsunoda and Ricciardo, Yuki is definitely having a bad weekend. Whether it's something wrong with the chassis, or set-up, or Yuki spent too much time having fun in Japan, or this being his first time racing in China, I dunno. It's just a bad weekend for him. But that does not mean it's a good weekend for Daniel. Daniel has previously qualified 14th, 14th, 18th and 11th. This weekend he qualified 14th and 12th. He hasn't improved. He's at the same level. Yuki's horror show is really skewing perspective around Daniel's performance. Daniel is still underperforming. Previously this season, when Lance or Hamilton or Bearman have failed to make Q3, Yuki has made it through. Daniel had four opportunities to get into Q3 this weekend (there were four Top 5 cars out of Q1/Q2 over two quali sessions) and he ultimately failed to capitalise on that opportunity. The change of chassis hasn't made any difference to Ricciardo's form. Again, that doesn't excuse Yuki's poor performance. To use the Tommo channel lingo, he's had an absolute clanger. But that doesn't mean Ricciardo is having a banger.
Interesting that Ocon has beaten Gasly every time despite frequent 10s penalties
Seriously mate, i aint gonna raw dog a 40 min video about 1.5 hours worth of quali+sprint. Goddamn, quality over quantity, always.
Not for you, that's fine. 👍
I think you bash Zhou to much. He’s way better than Sargeant any day of the week.
So how is it possible for a team 2 years into regulations go from 2 sec down to winning by 16 sec in a 19 lap race by only "changing to mode 8"??? I can't help but believe there is something underhanded going on there.
Underhanded? Or maybe their car is significantly better in clean air? Why did it take perez so long to get through the cars ahead of him if there’s something underhanded going on to favour red bull?
The difference between cars running in dirty air and clean air is pretty night and day, and it’s more down to Max being bulletproof for the most part imo.
@@sound4117 Honestly speaking all this shows is how badly they need to deal with the dirty air issue because that is one of the the biggest threats to the sport, alongside stuff like the weight and size issues.
more like under-knowledge on your part.
Riccardo to replace checo in the coming races