Randy Travis' AI-Generated Song Has Me Conflicted
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- Опубликовано: 4 май 2024
- Randy Travis' "Where That Came From," was produced using AI-vocals. I both find it incredible that technology can give a performer his voice back, annnnd I don't like the precedent that this sets.
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I personally think Randy has earned the right to do this, and it was done pretty tastefully and sounds exactly like him
Do what? As far as I can tell he didn't do anything.
@@bestversion8159 use AI for a song
@@bestversion8159AI
Once. And that’s it
Leave him alone
Honestly, if Randy didn’t have a part in it I’d be more against it. There’s a real band, real songwriters and he had a huge part in it. It makes sense 🤷🏻♂️
He didn't write the song. He didn't sing it. How did he have a freaking part in it?
Agree
Exactly.
@@ericfleischauer5863he wouldn’t let people do this if he didn’t trust the process.
@@steveleeart we don't know if he has any person agency as it is. He comes across like he has dementia.
I completely get it on Randy Travis’ end, I just wish there was more honesty about it before the release, and I hope this isn’t a doorway for other artists to do the same
They talked bout it on a show about it
It's unstoppable the fact of other artists do the same.
I don’t think there was really any lack of transparency.
My opinion is that it would be wrong to tell Randy Travis that he isn't allowed to use available technology to put out music. That, imo, is no different than telling him he can't use text to voice technology to speak. Let the general public decide whether it is something that they want to listen to or not.
The actual ethical question is whether it's okay to use the voice of a person who is deceased or otherwise not able to consent.
I wouldn’t mind tracks that were either demos or half finished at the time of passing that the artist really wanted to finish up got completed using AI with the consent of their estate and the help of the producers who were already helping produce the tracks in question. Otherwise, leave it alone.
@luke_cohen1 Nice, just like what Paul did with John's vocals for the Beatles' Now and Then
Ultimately this comes down to people’s fear and inability to accept and come to terms with death. We can’t accept that artists we love (and therefore ourselves) will inevitably age, grow ill, and at some point, die, and we’re trying to subvert that reality by immortalizing music with AI.
I think it's much more about centralized labels replacing the power of individuals, than anything else. If death didn't exist, this would still be a major long term conflict of ownership eventually. We will live to see vocal samples being sold full-sale, and then the artist goes home.
Phenomenal talented songwriter had a stroke but has the creativity and the wherewithal to use the technology to incorporate in creation of more music using himself. That's on him and for no one else to criticize
I don’t mind this as long as the artist is on board. I think that there should be a note beside the vocalists indicating that it’s AI
Should we also have "Melodyne/auto-tune assisted" next to the vocalists name? Where do we draw the line where a vocal is natural or computer assisted?
@@Jay-sl9jo the line is at A.I. just like the original comment stated. and it's pretty obvious why. don't be dense.
@@brainbonkk What makes using A.I. so different from using tons of plugins and editing? They're different solutions to the same problem. One is just newer and better.
Not trying to be dense here, I like thinking about things like this. Or maybe I just like being dense.
@@Jay-sl9jo on one side you're augmentating an artist's performance, but it's still that performance. and on the other you're creating one whole cloth, usually using stolen data from non-consenting artists. in this example, you're augmentating one person's performance to make it appear to be another person. this being something of an edge case / unicorn example where the artist has consented does not negate any of that. it is literally illegal to for a company to advertise one thing and sell you another. so yeah, either dense or extraordinarily bad at "thinking."
i like that it is used if the artist is alive but if they are dead, let the dead rest. i am sorta on the fence of AI.
You can tell Randy is all over this song! We neee more Randy!
I'm not a fan of the AI stuff at all. I think it's a can of worms we shouldn't open.
Sadly, with a global release just happening on TV and online we'll have to figure it out.
It’s a slippery slope, I think we all need to stop and think about where we’re heading. The future seems bleak
AI is the future weather you like it or not
@@codyclem7928 I do not like it.
@@Flyingwithoutmings I think it has its place, but I agree with you.
I'm not sure if it was intentional, but I appreciate your comparisons using "on one hand" and "on the other hand" - I couldn't help but singing along to the Randy tune in my head
3:46 On the other hand there’s a golden band to remind me of someone who would not understand
I think it’s incredible that Randy Travis has new music out. As a Randy Travis fan since his first release, I’m thrilled to hear his vocals again. Which they are, even taken digitally. Music genres use all types of technology to change or alter their music. This is his voice, just prerecorded and altered. It brought tears to my eyes listening the first time. Randy Travis has a beautiful voice, I’m glad to hear him again.
9:36 Never thought you’d reference Hatsune Miku and yet here we are
Me either
Me either
truck is mine
(it'd be real funny if miku got in on the pop stars tryin' country craze)
@@paisleepunk As both a Vocaloid fan and a country fan, I'd love for more (or, uh, any?) Vocaloid country songs.
@@TheViolaBuddyHonestly that would be cool! Just need to know how to use the program.
I'm not conflicted at all. Randy deserves this.
I am excited for Randy Travis! He was right there in the recording studio when this new music was being recorded. On his Facebook right now Randy has a post where he is thanking us the fans. They used 42 vocal tracks of his. I have been his fan since 1986. Randy deserves to be able to put out new music. We need to support Randy Travis.
I kinda thought that it was AI I can’t stand how AI is taking over the music industry
Yes me too, I don’t know how to feel about it. Randy Travis is a legend but I don’t know how to feel knowing it’s ai. Keep it up man. Have a good day!
8:19 - 8:32 that song that your friend made for your birthday sounded awesome!
Thanks for putting what I'm feeling into words. My immediate thought when I heard was awesome for Randy. But then I almost instantly got this feeling in the pit of my stomach that it's not going to be long (if it's not already happening) until companies are going to take vocals an artist has recorded and do the same thing for a whole album without consent.
I was listening to the radio this morning where we talked about it. He said he really wanted to capture the heart and soul of his voice. And he hopes to come back soon actually singing. In my opinion he’s doing it exactly right.
The problem I have with the whole AI thing is that you can have an artist say songs aren’t AI when they actually are.
Randy's there, but just can't make magic like he used to. But with a little help, he can pervey his thoughts. Kinda like a studio tape vs release that's alot more polished. Its Randy's O.K. that made this a certified song he approves of, how he'd do it, did it and still kinda doing it.
If Randy wants it, let him have it. It's his life.
I love Randy Travis, and as a country music fan with a disability I look up to Randy. Having said that, I think James Dupre, the artist whose vocals were laid over, deserves his own career. I've been watching him on RUclips for over a decade. Randy has had his moment
That's not for you to decide!
That’s exactly what I was thinking. The artist that actually sang the song deserves the chance to perform and receive credit, as well.
James has been preforming for Randy on the More Life Tour. If he wanted to do something else he would be, but he obviously loves what he’s doing
@@kimberlyanderson3672 that might be a contract between James and the label, though
@debbiehale2509 I never said I am the arbiter of the country music industry. If I were Dolly Parton, Emmylou Harris Suzy Bogguss, Pam Tillis, Kathy Mattea Wynonna Judd, Martina McBride, Ricky Van Shelton, Billy Dean, LeAnn Womack, LeAnn Rimes, Trisha Yearwood, Lorrie Morgan, Willie Nelson, and Vince Gill would have never left regular Radio country airplay and Anita Cochran would have been huge. Beyonce would ecorded a much more traditional country album. She would have blown out of the water had she actually tried. However, I do not hold such power. Therefore, all I did was express an opinion, something to which everyone is entitled, nothing more, nothing less. My thoughts are not up to you to determine
Who's to say this isn't AI-generated Grady already? The lighting is a little too perfect 🤔
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Just another form of computer-generated art that's been around for years. Enjoy it! ❤
Pandora’s box is fully opened now. I understand the argument of “it’s technically his own voice, he can do what he wants with it,” but I think amongst the general public, trust between artist and consumer will be permanently broken the more and more this happens.
Is auto tune real?
Most people don’t care as long as it sounds good.
Most music today SUCKS... Hearing the new song is like the Good old days when music was music... More power to Randy...
Ever hear madonna live vs recorded music?
She and many others wouldn't have a career without computers fixing their lousy voices.
This AI stuff is evolving by the minute. I've been working on this year long project for work, and we've been working to integrate AI into it, and by the time we found our solution, AI evolved enough to require another look and, ultimately a different solution.
As for Randy's song ... and the use of AI in this regard. If an artist is alive and can't create (like Randy), and they can give their blessing, I'm all for it. We saw the CBS bit about it Sunday morning and spent the day outdoors, listening to Randy's catalog and reminding ourselves how amazing he is. We probably would just wait til he shows up on a classic country playlist otherwise.
If the artist isn't around anymore? That's where it gets muddy for me. I don't want to hear "new" Johnny Cash songs created by AI. No matter what, AI is going to change things, whether we like it or not.
he didnt really sing it though, someone else sang it and they filtered randys voice over it, SO yea this is gonna open up pandoras box, its all computers and not real
I don't think he did *anything* with it. He didn't write it or arranged it or anything.
But this was Randy's project, so with the absence of his own voice, this is as close as HE can get (and us, too), therefore it's all good. Right? I think so.
@@AimingWanderously nope, pretty soon their gonna start bring back dead singers with new songs out
Computers ARE REAL, they’ve been faking every instrument you can imagine for decades. I played an electronic organ at church in the 1960s. We’ve been using vocal enhancements (volume, reverb, etc) for even longer. Finally, somewhere the sound of most voices have near-identical duplicate although few have attempted to locate the pairs. Uniqueness most certainly exists but similarity also exists at varying levels. I expect that eventually, thousands of artificial vocal emulators will be available…why? because they have value just as faces, movements/dance, and hair, ideas etc have value. Well adjusted to yet another REALITY.
@@johnpierce2095 "pretty soon" maybe, but that's not what happened here. We're talking about THIS song, with Randy's blessing and involvement, no?
My local radio station played the song last week when it came out and at the time the DJ said he thought it was an old song from the vault. I listened to it and thought "it should have stayed in the vault, it has no soul". Now I know why I felt that way. Not a fan of the idea of AI songs, it feels like a Pandora's Box of problems.
I thought the same! I could tell something was off.
I lived and worked in Nashville in the early 2000s, and I am forever thankful, because we were still in a time period where people had to actually be able to sing and write. it's not that there was no vocal tuning going on, but it was so subtle, and used as a tool to save some time and the artist's voice. now when I hear "country" on the radio, the tuning is so hard lined that the vocal could have easily been done in one take. This carries over to the Quality, or lack there of, and the live performance, where artists lip sync these days and it is accepted. I tried out a couple of these AI writing apps, and I am convinced it is riding most of this garbage that appears on the radio. I would be further more convinced that it is creating the melodies; if anyone don't believe me, just download one, and for the prompt, put in dirt road, jacked up truck, girl, drinking whiskey at a barn, bonfire, and it will generate whimsical lyrics that sounds like what you hear on the top 40. I love Randy Travis, and I'm glad that he was able to do this, but what is to keep me from doing a duet album with clones of every artist I have ever admired? yes, maybe there are some states where I actually couldn't use the name of The Voice I cloned, but if I don't give credit to anyone, is it still illegal? how can you sue me for a voice on a record, when said Voice really doesn't exist? It's only the human perception that this imitation is that voice. AI abilities to strip each track from a song have been around forever, and I have even used it as a practice tool. I can strip vocals, spoken word from interviews, and compile a composite of a persons voice, that will be a dead ringer, even though I have never actually done it. I know I can, because of my ear in music, performance, and abilities as an audio engineer. it can generate the album cover, and then a music video. it seems like we are living in an updated version of the movie Pure Country. furthermore, I have worked as a studio musician for several record labels, and had albums on a two different labels, and contractually, there are many people dead or alive, who won't have a choice in the matter if the label wants to put a likeness of them on anything they see fit. perhaps the only difference between one of us and these labels is, the label could actually use the name and appearance without ramification. in the end, it will all be artistic hijacking, and we are all used to that, but this will be on a whole new level.
Prince would NEVER want anything released that he did not have full creative control over. You are so right, this is almost how I believe AI will insidiously permeate our world, beginning with a gracious looking gesture than then opens a can of worms. There is no chance this is going to stay "super organic and nice." Love you, Grady and Love Randy Travis always
Most of the popchart music of Prince has dated trashy sounding keyboards ..never understood the high esteem afforded his work
It's already been demonstrated that groups that are out there still performing like the eagles commonly lip sync to recordings of their own voices so this example is even a little more honest in its presentation
Nah the Jurassic park reference was spot on
Or Pet Cemetery. You bring something you loved back for the dead using some unnatural means, and what you get might look similar, but you quickly realize it's not them. No soul. That's the way I feel about this song.
@@annmarie3573 precisely
As far as all the AI robotic bullcrap, you can have that. But when it comes to something like a performer trapped in his own body that can't get out, used for voice recreation to give him a voice again is phenomenal. I have no problems with this whatsoever. No different than when I watch the nonverbal comedian speaking through a computer. Not to mention it's better than 99.9% of country music out there right now. Isn't that all what music is anyways?
Randy Travis has one of the most iconic voices in country music. 3 seconds of his voice and I’m transported back to my childhood. I hate everything about this. I don’t want new music from Randy Travis for the same reason I don’t wanna hear a new guitar solo from EVH.
I think AI needs to be examined case-by-case. Randy being on board creating a new song with AI is probably the only way he can still “create” in an art form he loves and it feels so wholesome and joyful and I love that for him.
On the flip side, an author landed in hot water for suspected AI use on a book they were perfectly capable of writing themselves, they’ve just gotten too big for their britches, and fans were upset by what they viewed to be a blatant cash grab. Stuff like that is where AI use gets icky.
I'm a big fan of Randy Travis and really happy to hear a piece of him again on radio. I like the fact that it gives him the ability to make his music his instead of just writing the song and finding someone else to sing it for him. I do agree that this is a very dangerous technology and has to be heavily regulated otherwise it could kill the entire music industry as a whole because the music industry is a showcase of talented artists.
I think this is when AI is used right. Randy Travis was involved in the whole process. This is HIS voice approved by himself and it is a beautiful song
it was done with his blessing and input. It used a tool to aid him in singing, just like we use tools to help someone to walk. As long as it is done up front and honest I dont see anything wrong with it.
Proper use of AI. It's touching that Randy can continue to make music.
I think, in this situation - AI is being used in the right way. The artist is alive and involved in the process. And they are being public about it. I love the song.
I’m excited to hear more. I had a feeling it was James Dupré, it just makes sense. James wouldn’t want the credit for lending his voice. He lends it to Randy for his tribute concerts. Technically, it’s his voice, just not his performance. Definitely should be exempt from any awards but it’s just nice to get something “new” from Randy. Watching Randy smile so big makes me happy. Keep em coming Randy, James, Kyle, Mary, and Warner!!
I really liked your analogy comparing Randy’s AI generated voice to a prosthetic limb, I think that’s absolutely right. Though I do wonder what AI could mean for future generations of musical artists, will they have the opportunities to break through like the greats did, or will they be forever overshadowed by “new” AI-generated releases from past major artists…?
This is a Randy song.
Yes, James is involved in the singing, but all he does is provide the rhythm of the vocals for the song so that the AI has a pattern to follow. He is also directed in doing this by Randy.
If Randy writes a song, tells James how he wants it to be sung, down to each individual word, vocal inflections, pitch, raise pitch on this word, dip down at the end of that line, belt that, head voice there etc, and the voice is taken from Randy's own voice then effectively, it's not really different from him singing it himself.
That's exactly what he would do if he were singing it himself. The only difference is that he doesn't have to use his vocal chords because the technology can take the sound he made years ago and do that part for him. For all intents and purposes, this song is his song and no different than if he were to sing it himself, he just did it in a way most people don't.
It’s a beautiful song. I wish Randy was able to do it with his own voice, it would have been one of his best
Make no mistake about it, that's Randy's voice. Technology was used to create a vocal prosthetic. We are happy to see amputees use technology to function, so why not Randy? If anyone's earned the right to do it, it's him.
I've heard new versions of songs "sung" by passed on artists like Johnny Cash with new words added to old melodies. And you couldn't tell it was AI if you didn't know
A technology by itself isn't evil or good. How a technology is used determines whether or not it is good or bad. AI is here, and it's not going away. We must create laws, regulations, and rules for its use in the same way we do for other technologies that have the potential to have undesirable impacts when misused. I'm overjoyed that Randy has found a way to now experience happiness again through his new AI assisted music. He is involved in its production, and he decides whether or not it is acceptable for release. Only an artist and his or her family when the artist is no longer alive should have the authority to use AI to replicate an artist's voice. An artist should also have the ability through his last Will & Testament to not allow his or her voice to be used by AI for developing songs after he or she is no longer alive.
My first initial thought was I've been blown away that the Randy Travis has bounced back from a massive stroke. And he went through soo much hardship and came back with an heart touching song that i couldn't believe 🙏. But not knowing it was all AI, I already felt skeptical. But 🙏 for Randy Travis
I think people are taking this all the wrong way. The music is real human musicians. The lyrics are real human writers. The voice model was made using 40+ voice masters by Randy. Randy was along every step of the way. Engineering was used to mix and master the song. Randy is making this choice and I believe that the tears of joy he and his family cried hearing the song speaks for itself. I think that as far as use-cases go, this is the best possible way to do it. I would never want this used after his passing to keep making money on his name, but I don't see this happening.
As for your second point, Blue Oyster Cult are doing that. Their new album is all tracks that were either uncovered demos, damaged live recordings, etc etc that were remastered using AI to remove crowd noise, recording damage, etc, then remixed with the band performing new parts. "Don't Come Running To Me" features the final performance of Alan Lanier, whose family was able to hear a part he recorded decades ago remastered and usable in a studio track.
I think the song sounds great, but I'm also near-certain the reason this was all done in such a scrupulously ethical way is to boost PR for this technology being used in music. In reality, this is an edge case, and this technology is absolutely going to be spun in increasingly uncomfortable directions within the year.
Also, unrelated, but listen to Holler Choir.
I’m all for Randy being able to do this but I don’t think anything Ai generated should be regarded in awards or chart against a real person singing.
i think a good president of artist being involved and giving their blessing and collaborating is important, not just people using this to duplicate the voice of someone passed or exploited
I honestly don’t know how to feel because he hasn’t been able to sing as he once could because of the stroke making it physically impossible for him to perform but he’s able to make decisions for himself as he’s aware and alive. This sets a precedent for estates to approve songs on behalf of the talent they rep… I think if someone isn’t alive to consent to something being made with their branding it shouldn’t be allowed, but that happens all the time. For example, having a hologram of Whitney Houston perform is so dystopian to me but she was alive when that tech was first being used at festivals so it’s possible she could have discussed this with her management. As for whether she did, the public only knows as much as they are willing to share. I also think that this will make it even harder for new talent to emerge because they’ll be competing with the greats again and that is definitely strange to think about. If a single by an AI mimicking Elvis releases would other new releases be able to outperform that? Also, how would tours happen with AI music without performers because I’m not paying to watch a hologram.
It will make it even harder to make it in the industry as a singer. You will have to compete against voices like Elvis and Johnny Cash.
Pretty much every artist in history, has had their whole catalogue for free on RUclips/Spotify since like 2015. New artists have to compete with that already.
Not to mention Freddie Mercury.
@@raveoreynolds6049 yeah, I thought of that as well, but now those people are creating new music
So it shouldn't be hard to do. The two artist you mentioned happen to be two of music's legends that I can't stand the voice of. Johnny Cash couldn't sing on tempo, he was always a half step back, and Elvis' voice was simply annoying. I realize I am in the minority with my opinions, but that is part of my point. Music is subjective. I don't understand how Miranda Lambert has a career. Don't care for her music. Or Chris Jansen. But, they have careers because other people like them. Elvis and Johnny Cash don't draw me in, but a new voice like Carley Pearce or Ashley McBryde have me hooked. If they have talent and work ethic they will break through.
Hmmm, after watching your take on this Grady, Im on the fence now too.
I seen CoJo, Clay Walker, and Josh Turners reactions to it and I was like “wow! If popular/legendary artists like those guys were damn near in tears hearing this, it’s gotta be good”. And so I was looking forward to it.
Now, however, as much as I love Randy Travis and I’m not trying to take anything away from him, he’s an absolute miracle for having survived his stroke. And it’s amazing he’s made the progress in recovery that he’s made. Buuuuuut, I feel like people are forgetting all about movies like The Matrix, I, Robot, Surrogates, Terminator, etc. I’m sure that the people that made the machines in those movies had really good intentions, but even so….😟
As long as the artist is part of the creative process it is no more artificial than over half of the produced stuff out there. When he passes so does this type of production. I am more than ok with it in this particular case.
Conflicted, definitely. Perhaps if I were in RT's shoes, I would be elated at this opportunity. But, because it's not a real-time performance captured by recording technology, I can't and won't give it my blessing. As we tamper with AI, fast forward a 100 years, and recording arts by real people will be a cottage industry that few will make a living at. If we as a society embrace this artificial entertainment with votes of eyes, ears and dollars, then we'll get what we deserve. What's next, live performances enhanced by AI, and the stage performer isn't even singing, but has a manipulated sound that takes the best of a Toby Keith and blends it with George Strait? What a strange road to take.
2030: Taylor Swift releases 250 albums in 1 day. yikes
We could be living in the final decade of authenticity
I was personally pleased for Randy, you can see the delight in his eyes. The song is wonderful. But like you I wonder where the steps on this road lead to. I am a Randy Travis fan, and an ABBA fan also; the avatar rendering of themselves in concert was interesting and delightful to watch...but I prefer a live youthful cover group (if they are GOOD). I agree with you that Randy's case is special, I will admit it brought mist to my eyes. Thank you for sharing.
The greatest country voice in history is BACK!!... we all know if he could he would play this live, and it would sound exactly like this... AI finally did something right!!... unlike other PC auto tune phonies!!.... (Taylor Swiftless & Bouncy for example)... noone would criticize his wheelchair because he cant walk... Well done Team Randy, Welcome back Hoss... Now get making more while you can still approve releases...
It could be a slippery slope, however Randy is cognitive and on board to this. It is pretty amazing to use this technology to allow him to sing again.
I ❤ this song!
Happy to see that others are also receptive to this new technology, especially since Randy is unable to sing, and has approved the process of creating this single.
For me, what sets guys like Randy Travis apart from other artists is their natural ability to sing and deliver a heartfelt performance.
While the AI is convincing, at the end of the day it’s not Randy.
That said, it warms my heart that he’s able to make new music in any capacity.
I feel similar about this as I do about using neurolink to help people that are quadriplegic. Like, I’m glad that it helps them, and there’s a lot of potential good that can come from these tools, but also, I don’t know that I trust the biggest companies in the industries involved in these breakthroughs to keep the influence and use of these tools benign.
No disrespect to Randy; to see what he's been through and see him keep pushing on is amazing. But this is the reason Zach Bryan is such a megastar: no AI, no Autotune, no BS. If AI tried to copy Zach Bryan the computer would eat itself for brunch and go up in a cloud of smoke.
its breautiful, watching the music video makes it way better and makes me cry. watching him laugh and having fun and still being able to do something he loves
Why is this such a Black Mirror episode… I swear everything from that show comes true. Such a bleak reality
It’s the one with Miley Cyrus! (Don’t remember the episode name. Just her character is called Ashley O)
Or Skynet in the Terminator movies.
New music from a dead artist is controversial as that person did not and can not give their consent to do so. Randy is alive and agreed to this. This is the type of things AI should be used for. To give a person their voice back. An all new AI artist - if you can find enough "fans" to support that sort of thing, the record producers would crank them out all day long.
Am writing a piece about this, focusing on Steve Marriott (Small Faces, Humble Pie) and while the widow favors AI recordings, while Marriott's children are against the idea. This is going to be a BIG issue going forward.
Randy deserves to live his dream the best he can. Nobody should bash him in any way
I’ve been listening to Randy’s new release and I think it’s great, mainly because he wants to continue to be an entertainer and physically can’t. I would be against doing this with artists that are dead, but Randy’s alive. I will say AI has a ways to go yet, I can hear the difference between music he actually did and this release, but it’s still good, it’s just not perfect. Remember the Beatles finished a song written by John and by the time the AI was ready only Paul and Ringo were still alive. It didn’t really sound like the Beatles, but Johns voice is there and some of Georges guitar works from an earlier attempt was there, so it think they honored the memories of those who were dead by the time it was completed. I hope they continue to improve on this an Randy gets more releases, totally real or not, I’ll buy them. Ps. I hate the idea of AI in almost every way, but it’s in our cars and on our phones. If your worried this will take over things, it already is: sky-net from Terminator is not far off.
I truly think the crackes and pop make the music better, and it should stay that way 6:20
INTERESTING. Welcome back Grady.
Let Randy Travis have his music
There's something funny about the Warner CEO saying we need to see the optimism in AI. Like yeah, we understood there is an upside for you to make money. That was never in question.
I’m not gonna lie your birthday song shocked me. The way the chorus hit and the vocals went wide and stacked and then came back to one centered blew my mind - if the entire song was generated with one push of a button that’s freaking NUTS
As a mountain biker, I equate this to the use of electric mountain bikes. If using AI is what makes you able to sing, by all means, go for it! But if you're perfectly capable of singing, back off. Older people who ride electric mountain bikes, I'm okay with, because it keeps them on the trail, but if you're 25 and in great shape, don't. As for using AI to bring back artists who have died, I don't like that. Dead people can't ride bikes, electric or not, dead people can't sing.
Thanks for not bashing Randy but I’m sure he’s just happy and excited to hear his own voice in a new song. Prolly like a kid on Christmas. Music means the world to him and he approves of this musics message and that’s what matters to me 💯🙏🏻🙏🏻I do agree with what your saying and I don’t listen to non -artist approved AI songs tho either 💯💯💯💯
the way it's getting used by Randy and co. here is much closer to the machine learning that artists use to develop certain digital brushes, which greatly eases massive workload/makes it possible, or even to the development of a vocal synthesizer like Vocaloid (Hatsune Miku and such, which you allude to in the vid). at the -artist- level, this is good!
like with everything, it's when it gets in the hands of -execs and suits and investors- that the tech developments become worrisome. i shudder to think that someone sees this as a way to cynically milk even more from Juice WRLD's posthumous writing than many folks did (and still do! and he's been gone for almost 5 years now!!)
My problem with AI in general is laziness. If someone can't take the time to pour their own heart into what they're creating, why should I listen to it/ read it/ watch it etc. This, this is an exception that I can get behind because obviously real people did enjoy putting this new piece of art into the world, and the singer gave his full support.
Definitely think this is slippery slope. People already using AI in nefarious ways.
I already hate it!
I'm proud that he did that. He's earned it. It's still his voice regardless of how it was accomplished
This is kinda the same way I feel with posthumous albums.. as long as the artist gives the okay then I'm okay with it
Also love the pic with you and Randy 🥹🥹
Damn, Bill Lee actually doing something uncontroversially good? I did not have that on my bingo card for the year.
AI scares the crap out of me. But, this is a beautiful song, and I'm happy for Randy Travis. His smile is awesome. I agree with your assessment 100%.
Are we just gunna skip past the fact Grady just made a ‘on one hand… but on the other hand’ reference and didn’t even acknowledge it?
I am completely on board with this, given the circumstances.
If this had been done by the label, even with good intentions without Randy’s approval and input, I’d be against it.
Heck, most all of Nashville uses AI (autotune) these days anyway.
The only possible hang up is using Dupree … I get that somebody has to create map for the voice to follow, I just hope it doesn’t create lawsuits down the road.
I’d be down with a “new” album from “Waylon Jennings” …
First it was the Beatles using AI to help create and isolate George Harrison (22 years after his death) and John Lennon’s (43 years after his death) voices to be combined with Ringo Starr and Paul McCartney to bring us the first Beatles AI song ever and now we have AI helping us hear Randy Travis‘s beautiful singing voice and a great song again. AI is going to do some tremendous things when it comes to bringing, the voices back of great singers that have had tragic accidents happen to them cutting their careers short. This is just amazing to hear. First, The Beatles used AI to a final finishing song to the band, closing the chapter of the greatest band in history and now Randy Travis gets his voice back after 10 years, who knows what’s going to be next. Absolutely love this technology.
Glad you're back Grady!
Kind of simple. Each one's opinion will depend on whether they see music as an artistic process or an output.
Or how much they support Dorian Gray's decision on the book/film.
Randy Travis Earned It, period.
If it was done without Randy's endorsement I'd agree that it's dubious. But it was done with his involvement. I think it's the positive side to AI.
I am also conflicted about AI, however because Randy Travis was very involved in process, I am comfortable with this particular use.
Randy Travis coming back as A.I. with his approval... I am fine with that. It is a step above what The Beatles did late last year with "Now And Then", which used A.I. to clean up an old John Lennon track and layered parts from the other 3 Beatles over it.... with George also being dead too. I think it an artist or their estate approves of it, it would be OK.
If Randy is part of the whole dynamic of the song...I'm totally for it! He has such a unique song, and the song is beautiful...if this was someone 'copying' Randy, I'd call it out...but Randy is limited, but the passion is still there! I'm all for it....Randy is singing this in his heart, and this is the only option for him....I think it's a wonderful thing in ''this'' scenario!
In the case of Randy I’m all for it because he’s part of the process and clearly wanted this done. But for artists that have passed etc I just feel weird about that
I think Randy earned the right, and people fear what they don’t understand.
AI people fear cause they think it’s all evil.
This proves it does not, and I’m so happy for him.
I think he has the right to do this. Under the circumstances of his health, I don't see the issue. I'm sure this is something that has brought him some great joy. I absolutely love it!!
Honestly since I’ve been exposed to James Dupre since he was recording covers in his bedroom on RUclips. I could obviously hear James intonation in the vocals still even with the overlay of Randy’s voice. But it sounds very close to an original song. Perhaps only those like me would even notice that, and that shows how AI is going down the rabbit hole I’m sure will make people uneasy.
I can almost hear it now, " Hello, I'M Johnny Cash AI" If you're not performing Live How will they know it's not really You! Don't let the real Music Die!