EC switches don't use magnets, rather the pcb houses a capacitive sensor which detects slight variations in electricity when you put your finger on a keycap. More or less, these work the same way as the touchscreen on your phone.
idk which one to get i want a smaller board but the space bar is my only hesitation. is the 66 spacebar that big of a difference i almost only game as well
Funny enough I heard that these actually feel better than Topre switches. I think the 45g option would be better as 35g may be too light, but I have to try it out to find out.
I really like the Niz Atom 68 with Bluetooth. It is one of the rare 65% multi-device bluetooth options that feel and sound great out of the box. It’s my most recommendable office/work board since almost anyone will like them without much getting used to. Although, I’d still recommend the HHKB Hybrid line-up for someone more willing to give the HHKB layout a try and have the disposable income to do so.
@@lawbinson Ahh awesome that's good to know. Btw do you have the 35g one? If you do, how do they feel in comparison to the lighter mechanical key switch? Like a cherry mx red, or they noticably light from that to a point where you accidentally press on the keys due to the weight of the finger alone or does it not actually do that?
@@ishraqmirza2724 I liked my 35g and while the feather touch was interesting for a while, I eventually felt it was too light personally and added the springs. I almost felt like having to bring my own fingers back up was more tiring. 35g is lighter than Reds, so if you rest your fingers on them, you might accidentally press them until you get used to it. With the springs or at 45g, they’re more similar to a quiet Red with a soft bottom out and extremely extremely light tactility at the top of the keypress if you press down slowly. I stick to MX for gaming, but generally prefer EC (Niz or HHKB) for everything else. My girlfriend liked it as well so I gave the 35g to her and bought the 45g. Because of the springs, it’s probably more interesting to be able to try the 35g (something you can’t really get anywhere else). But if you know you are someone with a heavier typing style and the 45g is available, I would go for that one. Then you can use the springs to make them 55g.
@@lawbinson Yeah I might go for the 45g model. I'd imagine they'd feel very nice too? Yeah I'm trying to look for a keyboard for everything whether it's gaming or typing so this but 45g sounds like a pretty good option.
I wish they'd bring back the Nano 75 so I didn't need to bother with layers or anything. It's much more compact than the 87, but wouldn't need me to mess with NIZ's janky software for F keys.
so can I customise this with new keycaps? in that case what should I search for when looking for caps? i’m totally new to the keyboard world 🥺 so any help would be appreciated 🙏🏻
If you get the Atom 68, any Standard MX-compatible caps will work so long as the set supports 65% keyboards. It used to be tough to find sets that supported that layout, but it has become a lot more common now even in cheap Chinesium sets (thankfully). If the set has a 1.75u right shift, you should be golden. That's about as small as you can go for dedicated arrow keys until it starts being hard to find caps that fit. 35g Niz is only very lightly tactile, just so you know. Probably the closest thing to MX brown I would ever like, since it is wonderfully smooth and pleasant.
Technically, electro-capacitive keyboard ARE mechanical since they have a part-way actuation mechanism. Rubber dome and membranes do not automatically disqualify a keyboard being mechanical.
how to use the merged right shift key Im finding the way to use it . the backspace is one unit wide makes me have to adjust my self while typing and how I find the replace keycaps for that backspace ?? Please help!!!!! can it be replaced in the future for each key like normal mechanical keyboard ? i mean when how to fix it if anything occur
@@apatheliac I own it, and modded the membranes using Deskeys Des-Domes 49g purples. it feels night and day compared to the regular domes it comes with, but the dome film you get isn't bad at all considering its a topre clone. I bought it from Harum.io, and like a week and a half later I got it. it types like pressing a keycap into a latex pillow, or pressing a keycap into a marshmallow kind of. It's also super quiet, but it still kind of picks up on headsets if you're close enough. hope this helps, and I wouldn't sleep on it. it's such a nice experience from topre keyboards without the extravagant price of a real topre. yes it has bluetooth, but I don't use it.
@@apatheliac also the stabs are cherry plate mounted so you can totally buy some better ones if you desire. I just fixed the ones it came with and I have no rattle.
EC switches don't use magnets, rather the pcb houses a capacitive sensor which detects slight variations in electricity when you put your finger on a keycap. More or less, these work the same way as the touchscreen on your phone.
Oh 🤦♂️ don’t know where I got this magnet thing from! You’re right! Pinning your comment so that everyone knows
@@minimalistik You had EC confused with Hall Effect swtiches. Wooting and Input Club are doing boards with these.
@@RILURILUCR0C0DILU input club?
I think their input broke
After almost a year of ownership, this is the best keyboard I've had since I've been around tech.
idk which one to get i want a smaller board but the space bar is my only hesitation. is the 66 spacebar that big of a difference i almost only game as well
@@6rantfishing The 68 is the way to go, same space bar size as any other regular keyboard. The space bar on the 66 is the one with a "special" size.
Alex is it as small as a 60% tho like i own a ducky one 2. not the mini. is smaller than this? that's what i'm shooting for
@@6rantfishing I just measured the NIZ 68, it's approximately 31.5 cm long by 10.7 cm wide.
@@cashinhand thank you sire
I have a NIZ 84, it is great. Looking for a smaller-sized keyboard. 35g is just light as a feather. 68 seems great for me
The tactile bump you're feeling is the dome itself.
Mouse control is pretty cool. Especially if you have the Bluetooth version and just want to chill on the couch or something
Funny enough I heard that these actually feel better than Topre switches. I think the 45g option would be better as 35g may be too light, but I have to try it out to find out.
Having tried both, the 35g is better stock and the 45g is better lubed. They feel lighter when lubed.
I love the Niz Plum 83 so much. It really is high quality and the typing is oh so good.
I really like the Niz Atom 68 with Bluetooth. It is one of the rare 65% multi-device bluetooth options that feel and sound great out of the box. It’s my most recommendable office/work board since almost anyone will like them without much getting used to. Although, I’d still recommend the HHKB Hybrid line-up for someone more willing to give the HHKB layout a try and have the disposable income to do so.
I was just wondering about the Bluetooth version. Does it also support usb-c wired mode or exclusively wireless?
@@ishraqmirza2724 both
@@lawbinson Ahh awesome that's good to know. Btw do you have the 35g one? If you do, how do they feel in comparison to the lighter mechanical key switch? Like a cherry mx red, or they noticably light from that to a point where you accidentally press on the keys due to the weight of the finger alone or does it not actually do that?
@@ishraqmirza2724 I liked my 35g and while the feather touch was interesting for a while, I eventually felt it was too light personally and added the springs. I almost felt like having to bring my own fingers back up was more tiring. 35g is lighter than Reds, so if you rest your fingers on them, you might accidentally press them until you get used to it. With the springs or at 45g, they’re more similar to a quiet Red with a soft bottom out and extremely extremely light tactility at the top of the keypress if you press down slowly. I stick to MX for gaming, but generally prefer EC (Niz or HHKB) for everything else.
My girlfriend liked it as well so I gave the 35g to her and bought the 45g. Because of the springs, it’s probably more interesting to be able to try the 35g (something you can’t really get anywhere else). But if you know you are someone with a heavier typing style and the 45g is available, I would go for that one. Then you can use the springs to make them 55g.
@@lawbinson Yeah I might go for the 45g model. I'd imagine they'd feel very nice too? Yeah I'm trying to look for a keyboard for everything whether it's gaming or typing so this but 45g sounds like a pretty good option.
Noob question: would the rubber dome material break down over time at a pace worth considering?
Nah. But lubing the slider helps a lot. Much more smoother and quiet.
I wish they'd bring back the Nano 75 so I didn't need to bother with layers or anything. It's much more compact than the 87, but wouldn't need me to mess with NIZ's janky software for F keys.
I have this .... and i love it : ). got custom keycaps for it as well.
so can I customise this with new keycaps? in that case what should I search for when looking for caps? i’m totally new to the keyboard world 🥺 so any help would be appreciated 🙏🏻
If you get the Atom 68, any Standard MX-compatible caps will work so long as the set supports 65% keyboards. It used to be tough to find sets that supported that layout, but it has become a lot more common now even in cheap Chinesium sets (thankfully).
If the set has a 1.75u right shift, you should be golden.
That's about as small as you can go for dedicated arrow keys until it starts being hard to find caps that fit.
35g Niz is only very lightly tactile, just so you know. Probably the closest thing to MX brown I would ever like, since it is wonderfully smooth and pleasant.
Technically, electro-capacitive keyboard ARE mechanical since they have a part-way actuation mechanism.
Rubber dome and membranes do not automatically disqualify a keyboard being mechanical.
will the headset pick up the sound from it?
Can you please review a left hand 1800 compact keyboard?
how do i switch from max mod to windows mod on this keyboard? accidently pressed something and now my alt and windows have switched any fixes?"
is it easy to actuate accidentally?
how to use the merged right shift key Im finding the way to use it .
the backspace is one unit wide makes me have to adjust my self while typing
and how I find the replace keycaps for that backspace ??
Please help!!!!!
can it be replaced in the future for each key like normal mechanical keyboard ? i mean when how to fix it if anything occur
this thing went up in price by a substantial margin recently...
Like is it plug and play?
It gives the same input as any other keyboard.
Hi, I'm subscribed to your channel, I'm from Brazil ...
Come to Brazil
Is this the 35 or 45g version?
is there better than K6 ? ( Hot swappable, RGB/LED, 65% )
Does it have rgb?
yo how do i change the lights at the back it came in all chinese so i can’t read it
what are the sizes of the bottom row, so I know what I need for keycaps?
Can I access e.g. F12 using both FN1 and FN2? I didn't get this.
Does it work on console
Good Lord that keyboard sounds better than Ed Sheeran playing "Perfect" at my cousins wedding.
Can I use this keyboard for MacBook Pro?
I was wondering this too, but I don't think so, esp since they say PC only
fn+left alt swaps between win/mac. haven't tried it on mine since i don't own a mac but yeah it's on the sublegends.
@@ANMSPTLT Thanks! I bought this keyboard two day ago. I tried it and it worked fine for Mac
@@TinTin-vx4nh well hello fellow plumer 😂
I dont get why electrocapacitive switches are "non-mechanical".
maybe cos there is no mechanical detents in those, just rubber domes? My guess
No physical closing of a electrical signal. Keypress signal is registered by an increase in capacitance.
Spacebar sounds pretty bad but maybe that can be fixed with some lube.
Looks interesting, where can I buy the 68 one?
Amazon
I want to know, Cherry Brown users, do you like this keyboard if you have it?
These appear to be great keyboards, but they are ALWAYS "SOLD OUT"! What good is a good keyboard if it's permanently unavailable.
This is literally a Hansung Gk868b reskin.
@@apatheliac I own it, and modded the membranes using Deskeys Des-Domes 49g purples. it feels night and day compared to the regular domes it comes with, but the dome film you get isn't bad at all considering its a topre clone. I bought it from Harum.io, and like a week and a half later I got it. it types like pressing a keycap into a latex pillow, or pressing a keycap into a marshmallow kind of. It's also super quiet, but it still kind of picks up on headsets if you're close enough. hope this helps, and I wouldn't sleep on it. it's such a nice experience from topre keyboards without the extravagant price of a real topre. yes it has bluetooth, but I don't use it.
@@apatheliac also the stabs are cherry plate mounted so you can totally buy some better ones if you desire. I just fixed the ones it came with and I have no rattle.
This Keyboard Can Change Keycaps
Never trust a guy that can't say SMOOTHER
jk lol
sad it isn’t more fun looking
U can buy custom keycaps because it looks plain cause it’s meant for typing not gamin (work , offices etc)
The king of scratchy
keycaps are POM, laser etched
Ahh yes 140~ dollars
Didnt know they allow porn on youtube... huh
That rise in your voice at 0:33, why do so many RUclipsrs feel the need to talk that way? It’s so annoying. Just speak naturally.
Haha.