Gl against Spirit tomorrow! Please scout for Proxys. Don't forget to send a probe out (in mid to lategame) for scouting potential flanks. And the Oracles can be a lifesaver, especially the Stasis Wards --> Stasis Wards in, next to a mineral line or directly next to a gas or the nexus. If he drops alot you could place a Stasis on the opposite site of where he would unload his units so that if he chases you, your probes have a Stasis they can run towards... I have never seen this but so many times i have seen terran players unload a bunch of marines and marauders to chase down probes in your mineral lines. You can also fly around his main army to place down a Stasis Ward behind him to trap him if he kites back or to catch a chunk of reinforcing units. Yes.. It is very luck based because sometimes you catch only a single marine but often enough you would catch a bunch of marines and or a siege tank etc... I often saw you floating enough money for the next warp-in + an extra Oracle (but the Stargate isn't producing) --> You said it yourself in your last tournament related video, that Stasis Ward is a "broken Spell". --> Why not building or rebuilding an Oracle later on for that exact purpose, if you have the money anyways? PLEASE shift+command your oracle away after the placement of a Stasis Ward. It is so obvious when the opponent is attacking into you and can see the Oracle standing still right above the Stasis Ward.
Love this series. Great production quality too. I love how when you guys are recapping, the game is replaying at the exact moment you guys are talking about. Great work Hamster
Re game 3: Looking through Choovy's games on Nephest (he doesn't have too many), you can find the likely Terran opponent as his loss on Goldenaura. Choovy's match history looks normal, but the Terran has a bunch of 0m, 1m, and undetected-game-length losses recently. His peak 1v1 Terran MMR is 3900, which was Diamond 2 at the time
I started off really well with a 0 and a 2, then the third game ruined my score with a 6, ending with a 3. Still a good score for me, but damn, that third game caught us all out.
Here's a tip. Don't rate early game macro being good as high tier. Most Diamond will have pretty good macro in the first 5 minutes when nothing is happening.
1. Plat1 2. Diamond1. Tight build orders means above platinum xD Micro wasn't perfect and APM seemed to be not so fast as ML-GML have. 3. Gold1. Dudes were idling sometimes even during fights. Zerg splitted his army... by unit type))))) 4. Gold2.17:50 Reaction time: none. The zerg was F2-A-clicking all the time. No target shooting at all. Wait what?! Diamond3?..
Hard to believe that one was gold 3 with the Terran’s play, feels like they should be able to get way higher. And a diamond 3 not building batteries for a Tempest rush? Odd stuff indeed. 9 points for me!
That's what I was wondering - it's a very troll strategy too to just turtle on tanks/PFs and send waves of hellions out -> eventually transitioning into battlecruiser.
You should make the format for Harstem vs the world be your best 7/8 results or something like that, it gives the people who don't miss a week the advantage of losing their worst score and it gives people who miss one week a chance of still doing well, just a thought because I missed the first week and feel bummed about it.
D1=3 Felt like some kind of Diamond, but I gave it too much of an NA bump (´。＿。｀) M2=2 Basically based my guess on the player feeling a bit worse than Harstem's Zerg :) P2=5 Tough one to guess because the Terran felt much better than the Zerg, so which one was out-of-league was hard to say :/ P1=2 Overcorrected for the mistake in the first guess Total=12 That third game was a real killer :/
I still remember that time WinterStarcraft said that master player was sliver.. and in my head I was like bro, in what world does a sliver player have like 300-400 apm and spends their money ??? Sure it was a ZvZ I believe, so that would make the game seem more messy than it actually is. 😂
@Harstem Good Luck tomorrow! Please scout for Proxys. Don't forget to send a probe out (in mid to lategame) for scouting potential flanks. And the Oracles can be a lifesaver, especially the Stasis Wards --> Stasis Wards in, next to a mineral line or directly next to a gas or the nexus. If he drops alot you could place a Stasis on the opposite site of where he would unload his units so that if he chases you, your probes have a Stasis they can run towards... I have never seen this but so many times i have seen terran players unload a bunch of marines and marauders to chase down probes in your mineral lines. You can also fly around his main army to place down a Stasis Ward behind him to trap him if he kites back or to catch a chunk of reinforcing units. Yes.. It is very luck based because sometimes you catch only a single marine but often enough you would catch a bunch of marines and or a siege tank etc... I often saw you floating enough money for the next warp-in + an extra Oracle (but the Stargate isn't producing) --> You said it yourself in your last tournament related video, that Stasis Ward is a "broken Spell". --> Why not building or rebuilding an Oracle later on for that exact purpose, if you have the money anyways? PLEASE shift+command your oracle away after the placement of a Stasis Ward. It is so obvious when the opponent is attacking into you and can see the Oracle standing still right above the Stasis Ward. 📌Here you can see the status of the current ongoing tournament. --> liquipedia.net/starcraft2/ESL_Pro_Tour/2023/24/Masters/Winter/Regionals/EU📌
Yea I can’t even watch that guy. I don’t see how people that play SC2. Being smurfed so much and Harstem also does silly challenges but against people his rank. Am I missing something?
@@cheshire9384silly strategies are something that happens often even if we take RUclipsrs out of the equation, but smurfing is definitely bad for the game
isn't smurfing when you purposely lose mmr in order to beat up weaker opponents? I know uThermal in many challenges would start a new account thus starting off at diamond, but his goal was always to try to get the furthest possible with his mmr with the challenge. I'm not sure that's the same as smurfing. and now he only uses accounts that already have GM mmr
@@nikokiko47 creating new accounts "purposely loses mmr in order to beat up weaker opponents". That being said, I still enjoy his content as a guilty pleasure. People that try to say it's not smurfing are not being intellectually honest.
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Gl against Spirit tomorrow! Please scout for Proxys. Don't forget to send a probe out (in mid to lategame) for scouting potential flanks. And the Oracles can be a lifesaver, especially the Stasis Wards --> Stasis Wards in, next to a mineral line or directly next to a gas or the nexus. If he drops alot you could place a Stasis on the opposite site of where he would unload his units so that if he chases you, your probes have a Stasis they can run towards... I have never seen this but so many times i have seen terran players unload a bunch of marines and marauders to chase down probes in your mineral lines. You can also fly around his main army to place down a Stasis Ward behind him to trap him if he kites back or to catch a chunk of reinforcing units. Yes.. It is very luck based because sometimes you catch only a single marine but often enough you would catch a bunch of marines and or a siege tank etc... I often saw you floating enough money for the next warp-in + an extra Oracle (but the Stargate isn't producing) --> You said it yourself in your last tournament related video, that Stasis Ward is a "broken Spell". --> Why not building or rebuilding an Oracle later on for that exact purpose, if you have the money anyways?
PLEASE shift+command your oracle away after the placement of a Stasis Ward. It is so obvious when the opponent is attacking into you and can see the Oracle standing still right above the Stasis Ward.
In my SC2 fantasy, these two guys host a tournament where the players are required to play troll builds.
Florencio wins
I very much hope such tournament will happen one day!!!
I would pay to watch that. Don’t have twitch though…
Could stream it for superchats.
Or get build orders and compositions from bronze replays
Fun to see you two together. In for a 2v2 with you two as cheesiest men alive
I support this and second it!
With forced cheese!
Love this series. Great production quality too. I love how when you guys are recapping, the game is replaying at the exact moment you guys are talking about. Great work Hamster
Re game 3: Looking through Choovy's games on Nephest (he doesn't have too many), you can find the likely Terran opponent as his loss on Goldenaura. Choovy's match history looks normal, but the Terran has a bunch of 0m, 1m, and undetected-game-length losses recently. His peak 1v1 Terran MMR is 3900, which was Diamond 2 at the time
2 of my favorite StarCraft RUclipsrs! Lots of genuine laughs Thanks for the video guys!
As a Platinum player, the only thing I have in common with those Pros and Godly players is I play SC2 as Terran
at least that makes u immediately a better human being then 66% of the other players! XD
Oh, finally!!! Happy to see uThermal in Rank Roulette!!! And a great episode!!!
Sorry Nathanias : )
My 2 favorite sc2 content creators 🤩
It is perfect to see you together. my favorite episodes when you come across in ladder.
7:19 for the first time in sc2 history we can see marine drop... with a banshee
4:39 Harstem bring back this look hahahah
😂😂😂 you two have a contagious laugh haha. The GMs catching strays from uthermal though lmaooo 😭🤣
LOVE seeing Thermy on your channel Harstem!!! ♥️♥️♥️♥️
Oh wow, best Dutch content creator finally on this channel
yeah, Lowko was here last week we know
23:52 my man has been studying Spirit, good luck!
Loving this series!
One reason terrible guesses is someone might be a
GM playin with an account in Diamond and no one would knew :-/
Yeah! A collab, just like I asked!
I started off really well with a 0 and a 2, then the third game ruined my score with a 6, ending with a 3. Still a good score for me, but damn, that third game caught us all out.
Here's a tip. Don't rate early game macro being good as high tier. Most Diamond will have pretty good macro in the first 5 minutes when nothing is happening.
1. Plat1
2. Diamond1. Tight build orders means above platinum xD Micro wasn't perfect and APM seemed to be not so fast as ML-GML have.
3. Gold1. Dudes were idling sometimes even during fights. Zerg splitted his army... by unit type)))))
4. Gold2.17:50 Reaction time: none. The zerg was F2-A-clicking all the time. No target shooting at all. Wait what?! Diamond3?..
Uthermal probably the opponent in some of these games.
You guys are legends, hope to play a game or two with you one day 🎉
Hard to believe that one was gold 3 with the Terran’s play, feels like they should be able to get way higher. And a diamond 3 not building batteries for a Tempest rush? Odd stuff indeed. 9 points for me!
nah that first clip the protoss player had blink researched during the intense stalker vs bunker micro 😭 😭 😭 😭
love the idea, love the format. More, please.
I was guessing along and actually got the 2nd, 3rd and 4th spot on. I did guess gold 2 for the first guy tho.
That Terran might be a mmr troll who quits to lower mmr
That's what I was wondering - it's a very troll strategy too to just turtle on tanks/PFs and send waves of hellions out -> eventually transitioning into battlecruiser.
Happy to see Marc here!
Nice episode! thanks
You should make the format for Harstem vs the world be your best 7/8 results or something like that, it gives the people who don't miss a week the advantage of losing their worst score and it gives people who miss one week a chance of still doing well, just a thought because I missed the first week and feel bummed about it.
@18:47 Hamster, how long has your production company been named "Zerg Cabal Group" 🕵🏻♀
D1=3 Felt like some kind of Diamond, but I gave it too much of an NA bump (´。＿。｀)
M2=2 Basically based my guess on the player feeling a bit worse than Harstem's Zerg :)
P2=5 Tough one to guess because the Terran felt much better than the Zerg, so which one was out-of-league was hard to say :/
P1=2 Overcorrected for the mistake in the first guess
Total=12
That third game was a real killer :/
16:08 i think this was pretty obvious. who stays in the game if they are 100 supply down and are clearly losing for minutes on end
Every diamond terran does that lmao
So you assumed it was Bly? 😄
Please do a Florencio marathon with you too commenting
D2, D2, G1, D2
10 pts(unless im stupid). "Ive got no clue, Diamond 2!" is surprisingly reliable, you just have to recognise the low league stuff.
16:00 bro that terran was gold 3 with apm reaching to 400-500 meanhwile im gold 2 with max apm like 150 lmao
I think it was a smurf, honestly.
I still remember that time WinterStarcraft said that master player was sliver.. and in my head I was like bro, in what world does a sliver player have like 300-400 apm and spends their money ??? Sure it was a ZvZ I believe, so that would make the game seem more messy than it actually is. 😂
@Harstem Good Luck tomorrow! Please scout for Proxys. Don't forget to send a probe out (in mid to lategame) for scouting potential flanks. And the Oracles can be a lifesaver, especially the Stasis Wards --> Stasis Wards in, next to a mineral line or directly next to a gas or the nexus. If he drops alot you could place a Stasis on the opposite site of where he would unload his units so that if he chases you, your probes have a Stasis they can run towards... I have never seen this but so many times i have seen terran players unload a bunch of marines and marauders to chase down probes in your mineral lines. You can also fly around his main army to place down a Stasis Ward behind him to trap him if he kites back or to catch a chunk of reinforcing units. Yes.. It is very luck based because sometimes you catch only a single marine but often enough you would catch a bunch of marines and or a siege tank etc... I often saw you floating enough money for the next warp-in + an extra Oracle (but the Stargate isn't producing) --> You said it yourself in your last tournament related video, that Stasis Ward is a "broken Spell". --> Why not building or rebuilding an Oracle later on for that exact purpose, if you have the money anyways?
PLEASE shift+command your oracle away after the placement of a Stasis Ward. It is so obvious when the opponent is attacking into you and can see the Oracle standing still right above the Stasis Ward.
📌Here you can see the status of the current ongoing tournament. --> liquipedia.net/starcraft2/ESL_Pro_Tour/2023/24/Masters/Winter/Regionals/EU📌
This is the first time I get better score than both participants having 10 points total :D (2+2+4+2)
As a gold 3 zerg, I knew it was gold 3 all along.
Day 2 of asking for harstem and uthermal 2v2 vs the world
my favourite duo along with diego
Pssssht, the Dutch 🤣
No bane boost sponsor?
i would buy a case of bane boost for sure
I love these.
25 points today. I know I normally break down my score, but let's just leave it at that. I did horrible.
Yes
That Gold 3 game is not Game 3 wtf
that game 3 terran was definitely smurfing
terrans don't use the simplest spellcaster until masters level.
lol harstem - I think if a terran is good enough to push stim, they should get out of diamond. It's funny how low terran standards are.
Answer: lots of F2
My guesses:
Plat 2
Master 3
Gold 1
Diamond 3
F2 move alot
if it is a wall then it's not herO rofl
Considering how much time Uthermal spends smurfing they probably play the same opponents.
Yea I can’t even watch that guy. I don’t see how people that play SC2. Being smurfed so much and Harstem also does silly challenges but against people his rank. Am I missing something?
@@cheshire9384silly strategies are something that happens often even if we take RUclipsrs out of the equation, but smurfing is definitely bad for the game
@@datmedic2857 silly strategies are amazing and I stand by them 100%. Using them on people 5 ranks under you, I do not
isn't smurfing when you purposely lose mmr in order to beat up weaker opponents? I know uThermal in many challenges would start a new account thus starting off at diamond, but his goal was always to try to get the furthest possible with his mmr with the challenge. I'm not sure that's the same as smurfing. and now he only uses accounts that already have GM mmr
@@nikokiko47 creating new accounts "purposely loses mmr in order to beat up weaker opponents". That being said, I still enjoy his content as a guilty pleasure. People that try to say it's not smurfing are not being intellectually honest.
Ahah I love how awful these guys are at guessing hahaa.
Game 3 was 2 smurfs playing in gold league. That league is full of smurfs.
2 2 4 3
uthermal and platinum player might have one thing in common - they sometimes play against each other because he's a smurf
what is your definition of Smurf?
more like smurfThermal
My guesses:
D3-M3-D1-P1
0-0-9-2
total points 11