Harstem: “Clem, whatever you do, don’t compare this game to previous games, it will throw you off…. Anyway, this game is way worse than the last game.”
The last game was on the host for not mentioning the lack of Bronze players during the replay/ discussion. Don't penalize Clem for not knowing stuff like that. Luckily since it's the first game of the season you can apply the same rule to all players, anyone guessing Bronze can up their guess to Silver 3.
It's a banana Harstem, how much could it cost? Ten dollars? Props for the Arrested Development shoutout. I just started re-watching it and it holds up so well.
Aight we're back! Thank you guys for the production level, it's superb! Wanted to share a couple of thought - 2nd game, i would ranked zerg as gold 1 bc that helion defense... That ain't it my brother in creep. Since we're rating terran it'd be fair to give him 1 rank higher i.e. plat 3 i guess 😅 - 3rd game again i rated zerg as plat 1 bc it looked like my typical plat1 ZvP game, in some aspects better: dedicated midgame attack on max supply and with moderate bank which gets deflected, and some time later protoss with a tailored composition storms his own army, then proceeds to steamroll my army with minimal losses anyway. Again, since we're supposed to rate Protoss, it's fair to give him 1 rank higher, diamond 3 😊
You need to add the Rank Roulette thing in the thumbnail. I would not have noticed this was an episode of rank roulette unless my friend had pointed that out
I was today years old when I realized that Hamster & Harstem are anagrams of each other... A bit on the slow side there. What's not on the slow-side is that I ended with a total of 5 points this episode, even guessed the third game at exactly Diamond 3 *insert flex emoji*.
My score: 4 It's interesting as a low-level player getting such a good score, my lack of knowledge might have helped. guess 1: not floating, decent crisis management 280+ apm consistently on both sides, despite pressure both sides macro and get upgrades. My guess: M2 (+0) guess 2: I guessed d3 just because terrain was at least getting upgrades, and teching towards banshees while harassing where I imagined Plat and low diamond to stare at their hellions especially when getting so much value. I just ruled the entire zerg's oor defense to panic. My guess: D3 (+3) guess 3: I can relate to this zerg as a plat Zerg. it seems like these players focus on macro, but at the same time the Zerg upgrades are a little dodgy. The Zerg seems to just be going for a maxout and hitting. The toss didn't micro away from Biles which is bad, but I can see that happening in a plat game. My guess: P1 (+1) guess 4: This is the kind of stuff I know silver and gold players do. They watch a pro game, and think they can just do it. Not realizing they should not finish the e-bay, or gas, and that a gas block isn't a big deal in zvt. Plus the fact that the zerg didn't know how to deal with the ghost puts them below G1 in my opinion. I went with G3 but I knew it could be anywhere from S2-G2 (although at S2 and below I have a hard time believing that the terran would be able to have a gameplan like that and execute it within 6 mins) My Guess: G3 (+0) note on APM based on my limited experience: GM: 250-350+ M1-3: 200-330 D3-D1: 130-270 P3-P1: 80-200 G3-G1: 50-150 S3-S1: 25-110 Some players rapid fire everything so if you see one player with 500apm, and the other 150 apm, that's why. Zerg has higher apm than terran (I had over 100apm in silver, and over 220 apm in plat due to being a fairly fast zerg for my mmr) If zerg is playing ling-bane, also adds to some apm.
I liked these guesses but I might give you some advice, chaotic games generally look lower level than they are case in point last game where the player was gold 3 and looked like bronze 4
Changed the scoring system? Correct = 0 points and off-by-one division should be 2 points, right? Why change it to 1? Reduces the benefit of "exactly correct".
That is correct. The score system got slightly adjusted this season. The previous system never REALLY did what it was intended to do but confused a lot of people instead - even after multiple seasons. So after some lengthy discussions we wanted to test this simpler and more straight forward one this season.
@@hamster_designs The downside being that you now cannot compare the results of this season to the previous ones to calculate the GOAT, for example, which is what SC2 discussions are usually about.
I got 4 points. The diamond game was pretty obvious to me on team comp alone: aint nobody below diamond building roach ravager hydra lurker. They out there sticking to two unit types
Felt like a mid tier plat game to me, macro was alright, upgrades were going, spelcasters were used to somewhat decent effect, micro was very lacking. But to be fair that’s not far from D3, plat is the smallest league iirc.
Hi Harstem As some guesses are and replay are harder than others Have you considered at any point the cup formula? From the start there are two contestants and the best get to the next round? it would eliminate some variance due to outliers replays and can some interesting dynamic through the season
Didn't you guys change the point system again? Then i think we should recalculate old scores for "deflation" :D (It used to be 3 points for off two right?)
1. D1 2 2. P2 1 3. D3 0 4. S1 1 Being D3 makes it often easy to compare, being in the middle of the pile :D (and yeah micro is only something terrans think is needed here. Macro is king)
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Harstem: “Clem, whatever you do, don’t compare this game to previous games, it will throw you off…. Anyway, this game is way worse than the last game.”
Glad someone else caught this lol
I don't know about that as a rule but you definitely don't compare with a game where your guess was like 9 divisions off 😁
While he was saying that I was thinking "sounds like the biggest load of crap I've heard".
That last terran was ready for the base trade, when he builds a CC on the opponent's former main he'll already have the 2 gases
5000 IQ gaming
Lmao
this
Hamster is amping up his game, holy creep! Awesome episode and production!
Hell yeah Rank Roulette is back!!! All of the new graphics and design work is really really well done Hamster
From what i could find, the MMR difference between Harstem and Clem is bigger than between Silver 3 and Diamond 2
That's savage
clem in his ivory tower thinking "why they even change that disruptor nova that thing never hits anyways?"
Right?! 😂
Oh, it's Kybrit. Context for those not knowing, Kybrit is known for giving WinterStarcraft money and aneurysms in equal measure...
Damn... Should have saved him for Winter then ^^
All the names of the players have been changed. This wasn't really Kybrit. It was a reference by Hamster. :)
@@mh1593 Why would he do that? people want to see their own games, makes no sense, you sure?
@@boliveto they say that on the video in an editors note.
@@mh1593 The note said the player names are hidden for both contestants, not that the names were changed
these intros were so good. had me remembering the old intro inControl gave Harstem. 9 feet tall, 9 foot something else. truly the captain.
Production level goes up every year, nice work!
Tournie money has clem going from surfer to lord farquaad in a few months
Season 5, here we go!!!
The legendary Kybrit strikes again
I'm not even gay, but damn, Clem is cute.
"Perhaps the greatest thing to have come out of the Netherlands, if you don't count cheese, your boy Harstem" rip lowko
Winter would have lost his marbles in Game 4. And then get a PTSD Vietnam flashback if Hamster revealed the name.
6:24 that’s it buddy. When Clem inhales and calls your reaper micro “so good”, can retire happy.
New Lift Goal, get to bronze, submit a replay.
I rate this as gold 4, like Clem!
Please keep them coming
Clem is such a cute french boy
Yeah he really is a sweetheart
He doesnt seems french
@@ignacioledesma6919 clem is french
@@МарсельМарсель-т9ч I know, thats why i said that he doesnt seems like one, because of how chariscamtic he is
And his face is so expressive, I can see the signs...
Season 5 here we gooooo!
I was rewatching S4 just today thinking "when is the next season coming?"
Incredible
Liked, Commented, and Wanting for more.
Also, holy cow Hamster is cooking with these UIs, keep it up!
Glad you guys enjoy it ^^
Great that Rank Roulette is back, thanks!
The last game was on the host for not mentioning the lack of Bronze players during the replay/ discussion. Don't penalize Clem for not knowing stuff like that. Luckily since it's the first game of the season you can apply the same rule to all players, anyone guessing Bronze can up their guess to Silver 3.
It's a banana Harstem, how much could it cost? Ten dollars?
Props for the Arrested Development shoutout. I just started re-watching it and it holds up so well.
Clem's Ranking System
GM
Master
Bronze
clem be like "mmh i think this is a 4k gold player"
1:06 "Very interesting ! Wait you were talking ? What did you say ?"
15:15 i came back and played identical to this from silver to diamond so good luck to the audience lmao
Aight we're back! Thank you guys for the production level, it's superb!
Wanted to share a couple of thought
- 2nd game, i would ranked zerg as gold 1 bc that helion defense... That ain't it my brother in creep. Since we're rating terran it'd be fair to give him 1 rank higher i.e. plat 3 i guess 😅
- 3rd game again i rated zerg as plat 1 bc it looked like my typical plat1 ZvP game, in some aspects better: dedicated midgame attack on max supply and with moderate bank which gets deflected, and some time later protoss with a tailored composition storms his own army, then proceeds to steamroll my army with minimal losses anyway. Again, since we're supposed to rate Protoss, it's fair to give him 1 rank higher, diamond 3 😊
New season of rank roulette AND you have the world champ in episode 1. take my like man. clem is such a cutie :3
8:10 ya, VERY dodgy! Those drones dodged right into every hellion flame thrown at them. x'-D
"Classic Platinum 1" - The captain is a connoisseur of Platinum 1 games. Who knew?
This show was where I found Harstem, so glad its back!
Epic layout and editing as always.
Especially like the hex point tracks and player camera spots. Sharp.
This video is so well edited.
I love it!
You need to add the Rank Roulette thing in the thumbnail. I would not have noticed this was an episode of rank roulette unless my friend had pointed that out
Amazing new graphics and designs! Good job Hamster!!
23:00 I don't think so, the poor guy spend like 1 sec in silver not even mention browse
Very upset that neither of them noticed the toss storming their own archons in game 3
+1!
I was today years old when I realized that Hamster & Harstem are anagrams of each other... A bit on the slow side there. What's not on the slow-side is that I ended with a total of 5 points this episode, even guessed the third game at exactly Diamond 3 *insert flex emoji*.
I can't believe this series is back! so hype
4th replay felt like it was just your average Florencio game ngl
My score: 4
It's interesting as a low-level player getting such a good score, my lack of knowledge might have helped.
guess 1: not floating, decent crisis management 280+ apm consistently on both sides, despite pressure both sides macro and get upgrades. My guess: M2 (+0)
guess 2: I guessed d3 just because terrain was at least getting upgrades, and teching towards banshees while harassing where I imagined Plat and low diamond to stare at their hellions especially when getting so much value. I just ruled the entire zerg's oor defense to panic. My guess: D3 (+3)
guess 3: I can relate to this zerg as a plat Zerg. it seems like these players focus on macro, but at the same time the Zerg upgrades are a little dodgy. The Zerg seems to just be going for a maxout and hitting. The toss didn't micro away from Biles which is bad, but I can see that happening in a plat game. My guess: P1 (+1)
guess 4: This is the kind of stuff I know silver and gold players do. They watch a pro game, and think they can just do it. Not realizing they should not finish the e-bay, or gas, and that a gas block isn't a big deal in zvt. Plus the fact that the zerg didn't know how to deal with the ghost puts them below G1 in my opinion. I went with G3 but I knew it could be anywhere from S2-G2 (although at S2 and below I have a hard time believing that the terran would be able to have a gameplan like that and execute it within 6 mins) My Guess: G3 (+0)
note on APM based on my limited experience:
GM: 250-350+
M1-3: 200-330
D3-D1: 130-270
P3-P1: 80-200
G3-G1: 50-150
S3-S1: 25-110
Some players rapid fire everything so if you see one player with 500apm, and the other 150 apm, that's why.
Zerg has higher apm than terran (I had over 100apm in silver, and over 220 apm in plat due to being a fairly fast zerg for my mmr)
If zerg is playing ling-bane, also adds to some apm.
I liked these guesses but I might give you some advice, chaotic games generally look lower level than they are case in point last game where the player was gold 3 and looked like bronze 4
side note, no pro is ever gonna gas steal a Zerg in a TvZ, Zerg doesn't need gas in the early game so it just puts you behind
Good guesses man. I had m3/d3/d3/s2.
Clem rocking the PartinG-Hairstyle :D
I wish I could like this video twice! Really well done
Hamster you absolute genius
Id love to send in a replay but unfortunately i don't actually play the game
Glad to see another season
Good luck and have fun, guys!
The last 2 games were brutal. I can't comprehend how the ranks were so high.
Re : THat final game: T buildings being built have zero armour. Completed buildings have armour.
God is good. Rank Roulette is back.
Welcome back rank roully! Been hoping this would be back!
I think if one of those was a Florencio play, it would melt their brains.
when you are gold 1 yourself it is quite obvious to you that 3rd game was far above gold 1 :)
IT'S BACK, IT'S BACK!
Changed the scoring system? Correct = 0 points and off-by-one division should be 2 points, right? Why change it to 1? Reduces the benefit of "exactly correct".
That is correct. The score system got slightly adjusted this season. The previous system never REALLY did what it was intended to do but confused a lot of people instead - even after multiple seasons. So after some lengthy discussions we wanted to test this simpler and more straight forward one this season.
Please call it a balance patch 1.01 hahaha
@@hamster_designs The downside being that you now cannot compare the results of this season to the previous ones to calculate the GOAT, for example, which is what SC2 discussions are usually about.
Wild third game, that was such a trick
Clearly, Harstem as the host of the show should have given better instructions to Clem, so Harstem should be the one punished in points... :D
Love the new overlay
I got 4 points. The diamond game was pretty obvious to me on team comp alone: aint nobody below diamond building roach ravager hydra lurker. They out there sticking to two unit types
Harstern should be punished for not telling Clem about bronze beforehand
Ahhh my replay moved in and I get slaughtered by harstem and clem xd
5 points not bad
I got 4 I’m getting pretty good at this
looks like RR is back on the menu boys
Who isn’t rooting for Clem this year!?! Great episode!
Rank roulette is back!!!! Hell it’s about time!
Rank Roulette Let's goooooooooo!
huh so that's why i got placed as a silver at the start of my journey at 2020 good times.
Game 3 being D3 is WILD, I don't see how it was that high
Felt like a mid tier plat game to me, macro was alright, upgrades were going, spelcasters were used to somewhat decent effect, micro was very lacking. But to be fair that’s not far from D3, plat is the smallest league iirc.
zerg was maxed out before 10 minutes you dont see that in goal
* gold
I guessed plat3 in game 2 lmaooo i called it perfectly
Hi Harstem
As some guesses are and replay are harder than others
Have you considered at any point the cup formula? From the start there are two contestants and the best get to the next round?
it would eliminate some variance due to outliers replays and can some interesting dynamic through the season
Yeaaah season 5!!!!
Game 1: M2 0
Game 2: D3 3
Game 3: G1 4
Game 4: S2 2
Total: 9
bummer you beat my score
I love Clem
10:08 since one moment I've started to pay attention to my worker count in replays but it didn't help me to build more...
Didn't you guys change the point system again? Then i think we should recalculate old scores for "deflation" :D
(It used to be 3 points for off two right?)
Yes, it is one point less for every non-perfect guess compared to previous seasons.
Didn't even notice. I guess that makes a 10 more like a 14 of the past.
Clem doesn't know what linking park is lol
Funny enough he might actually, because they came back recently with a new singer and did a song for another esports thing
I guessed the third match dead on
Clem visits Starcraft Grandpa!
D3 , G2, P2, S2 - my guesses.
20:39 shit I was proud to be in Silver 3 after my placement matches 😂😂
I now understand why Silver and gold suck that much today
i missed u Hamster
Was I gone? xD
@hamster_designs yes! ajahahha didn't hear you for a long time!
how did they end up at gold for round 3 the protoss was using storm and oracles ^^
Yes lets go!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
9 points for me (1-1-6-1). That's a lot better than I usually do. I'm happy :D
1. D1 2
2. P2 1
3. D3 0
4. S1 1
Being D3 makes it often easy to compare, being in the middle of the pile :D (and yeah micro is only something terrans think is needed here. Macro is king)
Clem is very good with english for his age.
and nationality.....
so you guys got rid of the +2 for 1 away to make the direct hit more impactful from last seasons ?
The last game was just bait to guess as low as possible.
In game 2 terrans be like "Queens are OP"
World Champ for round 1 is a pro move
So far, second and third game I'm spot on :D
Amazing !!
Clem's hair looks awesome
Got 4 !
my guesses watching this realtime:
1 m3 m2
2 p3 p3
3 d3 d3
4 g3 g3
We are so back! (also lets cut Clem some slack and give him the 10)