Nelson's got an unhealthy obsession with his queen. In my experience, swapping queens off as soon as you get a chance works pretty well; without his favourite piece, Nelson quickly loses the plot. Just stay solid in the opening, watch out for any queen-related shenanigans he tries, swap queens if you can, and wait for him to blunder. Once he hangs a piece (and he will) he quickly self-destructs.
This is exactly what I did the first time I played him. After the first 5 moves both queens were gone making it a more simplified game. I beat him on my first but I have been only playing chess for about 5 months.
So my offer to trade queens after castles was not just "trade to simplify complicated position", but also one of the winning tactics, nice. And exactly, after this and him winning my light bishop he blundered fork to his light bishop and then, the same fork to the dark bishop.
@@thatoneguy9582 - I had a similar experience - I am 700 rapid - now - lower then - and Nelson scared the s@@t out of me! I can now beat him with ease and have moved on to the higher level bots. Still can't beat humans though - lol!!!!
I've played Nelson hundreds of times. His range of play seems to oscillate between 600 and 2200. Sometimes he plays his usual cheesy openings, and sometimes he mixes it up and plays extremely well.
Nelson started feeling like a joke very shortly after I found this channel, but he's definitely the biggest roadblock for people who don't have anyone teaching them past how the pieces move. I really appreciate how Levy will intentionally play worse moves in complicated positions so that the game runs more similarly to how people who need this content might play.
@@mariuszpudzianowski8400 I've started to notice that. I still have a lot to learn being in the triple digits, but even I can see when some of these lower rated bots that are at or above my skill level randomly blunder in a way that can not be explained in any logical sense.
I really like that Levy says "we" when he's playing chess by himself instead of "I," because there's a calming sense that we're playing together and he's helping us all along. Thank you.
The issue with Nelson is he follows the top Stockfish's move for the first 8ish moves - well after the Scholar's Mate threat is finished. So basically, he plays at 3200 elo for 8 moves before he's allowed to make a mistake.
I mean, once you play a couple of games against him, you realise he blunders his queen every game. All you need to do is not get scholar's mated. Keep your defense up and develop pieces.
What? No bruh its the opposite. I have never seen him blunder his Queen. I have seen him blunder literally every single piece in his hand to protect that Queen but never his Queen. If you forked his king and his queen he would reprogram himself to resign and let you have the king. Nelson is a the single most deranged chess bot in existance.
'couple games'. Depends on your level starting out. There are a lot of fundamentals to learn against him. Not everyone is a natural 1200 or whatever you think is average chess noob range.
@@thomasmacmanus9913 nah. i started out as a 500, played some games against him, and after like my fourth game with him, he had no new moves. I learnt to avoid his threats, keep up development, and won a game, granted, it was terribly long. You can learn to beat him, cuz he makes predictable moves
I've played Nelson countless times and lost from foolish blunders even after learning to defend the Scholar's mate. I must say, the criss-cross apple sauce checkmate felt like sweet and swift justice. Thanks for the video 👍
You can immediately punish the early Queen attack if playing as White in a better way 1. e4, e5 2.Nf3, Qf6 3. Bc4, Qh6 4. Nxe5, Qg5 5. Qf3, Qxe5 (this does give up a knight but you immediately get back material) 6. Qxf7+, Kd8 7. Qxf8+, Qe8 8. Qxg7 You can just play it by ear from here, because this is when the bot's moves start to differ between games but it's very easy to beat him after this sequence of moves, just have solid principles and don't blunder anything
just started learning chess instead of playing chess and you are my favorite person to learn from, incredibly smart and easy to understand. love you man
How did Nelson manage to lose 21 points of material??? Also, as a bonus, let's open the front door to the king with f4, and then throw away castling rights with Kd1 while being down a queen. In what universe would a 1300 play like this??? This would've been perfect for a guess the elo submission, but I don't know if games against bots are accepted.
@@erikstephens6370 Yeah it doesn't make any sense, I feel like I've had tougher games against lower rated bots. Guess sometimes logic goes out the window with inferior bots or maybe Nelson is overwhelmed with so many people playing him recently.
would be cool to make this a full serie with every episode taking on a bot (that has a precise playstyle) to teach us how to play against different opponent and their strenghts / weakness.
@@mariuszpudzianowski8400 After playing chess a fair bit I never go for scholar's mate unless I am absolutely certain I am playing against an absolute amateur. The opening position for SM just feels so shit when your opponent knows a little bit of defense
@@mariuszpudzianowski8400 I have to resist the urge to humiliate my opponent in chat when they try to do Scholar's Mate, it's probably against the chess rules but they gotta stop playing lol
@@postsingluarity6159 I get playing bongcloud cause it's a meme opening (although I won 60% games I played with it) but Scholars is kinda insulting, like they think you are dumb enough to fall for it
He used to destroy me, but since then I learned a lot more about the game. Now I play him every once in a while and I beat him every time thanks to your teachings about chess.
This is so good. I’m past this level of play now, but like 3 weeks ago I was being crushed in blitz by early queen players, and so I opted to go back to studying. I figured I’d play computers and get better and watch more on my favorite openings so far. The problem is: early queen play is not something that gets covered in opening education because opening study just goes over the proper lines and their variations prior to mid-game.** Well, in my quest to improve I ran into Nelson and was like omg not this again!! More queen nonsense! So I decided to scour YT, and even your channel, for all the ways to truly punish these types of players. But alas- there was no definitive content for this stuff. But now you’ve gone and posted exactly what I was needing before! So awesome! And it’s still very helpful bc now I can solidify everything I did manage to learn before to get over that hump. ** side note: a great tip for creating useful content imo would be for you to make vids about each opening again, but instead of the common lines- addressing say, 3-5 main mistakes your opponent might make that end the book lines too early, thus putting them at a disadvantage since the book lines do go on as long as they do for good reason; because if you get a line that isn’t a known variation there is likely a good reason it’s not a variation (it’s punishable by one side or the other). That’s just something I noticed in my quest to improve at chess: all the content on openings never actually goes over “well black does this in response, because if they did say X, Y, or Z- any of these early deviations from the proper lines can be punished in A, B, and C ways.”
Just wanna express a theory I thought of involving mittens: Basically the bot M3GAN was originally rated 850 elo but out of nowhere a few days ago she gained 200 elo by defeating 2 of the lower rated cat bots as they posed as rivals to the player. This means the M3GAN is most likely against chess bots beating the player, so my theory is that after some time M3GAN will slowly defeat the remaining 3 cat bots (including mittens) and reach a level of playing strength above, even, mittens and therefore will act as the new most powerful chess bot, who will most likely ace as the next Mittens but be even stronger
Too bad I already whooped her ass. But credit for her actually playing somewhat like a 1k rated player not like other bots who have 1k+ ranking but play like 500s.
I was wondering where that came from. Im like ok “creepy bots”, and this one isn’t a cat. Thanks for pointing out its the title and character from a movie. Wow I’ve been living under a rock I guess.
Nelson Seems to have gotten much easier lately. Previously I could not beat him at all, but recently I beat him twice after he blundered his queen both times.
I know they sometimes do tweaks here and there which may affect the perceived difficulty. One thing to be aware of - the bots are easier to beat on the phone than through a browser.
@@steven631764 - Oh, why is that? I play on my tablet using the app - haven't tried using the browser on a PC - but I can't think why there would be a difference - can you elaborate please?
@@honeychurchgipsy6 That was my feeling after having played against bots on my phone and then on my pc through the browser. I could be wrong about there being a difference. Assuming that the chess engine used to generate moves for the bots runs locally (on the device and not their servers) which I believe is the case, then one device may be able to look at a greater depth in the same amount of time. So if they're set to run for a certain period of time each move then one will come up with better moves than the other. Probably the developers would try to even them out, thus the engine may run a bit longer on the 'weaker' engine. But they may limit how long the engine can run to keep it more responsive to the user. You should take what I said with a big grain of salt. Of course you can test for yourself. Play 100 games against a bot using one device then 100 against the same bot on the other device. Then compare win rates. That could take a while... 😄
if you actually want to beat nelson, just do these series of moves and youll trap his queen: you are playing as white d4 e6 nf3 qf6 e4 d5 e5 qf5 bd3 qh5 o-o nc6 h3 nge7 kh2 defending your pawn a5 by nelson and you play g4 trapping his queen you are welcome if he doesnt play those moves resign and start again a couple of times he will eventually play something along those lines
I honestly think the key for 1000 ish ELO players to beat Martin is to take your time and think through the lines. The best advice to be better I think, remains, don’t play short time controls
Levy went for the principled 1. e4 e5 2. Qh5 Nc6 answer to the early queen attack, which is the best and probably the easiest way to meet it. But there's also a funny gambit where you instead play 1. e4 e5 2. Qh5 Nf6, giving up the e5 pawn for development and initiative. It even has a funny name, "Kiddie Countergambit".
I like 1... d5 against Nelson, because he still plays 2. Qh5, then 2... Nf6 attacks the queen and defends the pawn on d5. Can usually win the e pawn that way and get a nice strong center.
I, as a 450 elo, beat Nelson a few times and I'm sometimes very confused at those bots' moves. They randomly hang their queen and it's a free piece. I mean....I'm not complaining Edit- I'm 800 now 🗿
it's because bots can't tell the difference between material imbalance and position imbalance. So it wants to give you a three pawn advantage but sometimes it will look very stupid. TBH that's why it's just more fun to play against real people.
@@irgendana25 Maybe his is Ascendant, who right now is lower rated, but will quickly ascend in a couple of weeks. I was too, I ascended to 650 from 350 in 1 month after one month of training. Also, beat Nelson today and after the queen trade, that was easy (even tho, his ponies were intimidating, before we traded them)
You can actually take Nelson’s queen within the first few moves if you play as white, (idk how I discovered it lol) 1. C4 2.Qa4 3.g4 4.Nf3 he won’t move his queen (for some reason) and you can take it with your knight! Hope this helped :)
What's interesting about Nelson is that you do NOT want to Queen trade early or even midgame, as he actually plays quite competently without a queen, and you're without one. he plays quite a lot higher than 1300 anyways. The goal is either to take it for free (obviously) or more likely make it irrelevant.
As a 924 rating, i played a lot with bots and recently i beat 1800 and 2000 bot respectively with white pieces. that was impossible almost for me and it happened.
Dude I yesterday beat an NM and also a FM in over the board chess in a tournament, and as a 1500 I can't believe it. I'm posting this just to share my happiness. Even that FM was our country's 2nd top rated active player
I’m considerably bad at chess and litteraly got the app a week ago (700elo) 😢. About 3 days ago my younger cousin (450elo) somehow beat Nelson in his first attempt. I attempted to beat Nelson and lost repeatedly. Thankfully this video has saved me, and I have now officially beaten Nelson.
Levy thank you for your videos you speak so clearly so everybody can understand what you say and mean. Thank you for helping us improve at chess while having fun watching your videos❤
Levy, fun content. You did a Nelson bashing a while back but this one was better because you discussed chess technique. You might have last time but I was brand new and prob didn't grasp it like this time. Thanks for simplifying in this manner. Been with ya for 3 years.
@@user-yw2mh1hp5w OH MY GOD I AM SORRY I BEAT HIM BUT FORGOT CUZ I HATED THE WAY HE PLAYED AND THOUGHT I WAS STILL TRYING TO DEFEAT NELSON i am now at 1458 and i HAVE beat nelson sry HAHAHAH😂 no lie btw
@jeedun - it goes to show that we are often doomed to lose against certain styles of play. I am 700 and can beat Nelson 9 out of 10 games. I played him again and again - did a few lectures on punishing early queen moves - and bingo - easy. Human beings, on the other hand, are just too random at low levels. Also, bots give up and are shit in an end game, so if you can survive through the opening and middle game you're going to win. Even Katspurrov plays like this.
@@jeedun - well done, but my point stands that often we are beaten by a style of play or an opening that we don't know. I could beat the 1400 bot David more easily than the 1200 Elena because of her aggressive style.
The timing of this video could not be more perfect. I am a very new player working my way through the bots and Nelson was giving me a bit of a hard time, especially the other day when I was sick. I managed to beat him without assistance but I look forward to finishing this video to improve more.
Has this video not been done already? I distinctly remember you teaching us how to defeat Nelson, and me defeating him just before I had watched your video...
Thanks Levy, Nelson used to do me over. After taking on board these lessons I've absolutely humiliated him (it), including a comeback after my early blunder. I'll never fear Nelson again!
I have never beaten Nelson before and after this video I proceeded to destroy him. I didn't even play what I learned from this video. I played a queen's gambit (I dont really know it but I thought Nelson would be easy now) and so I played solidly and slowly took him down until he blundered mate. Thanks Levi, you helped me understand why I lose to Nelson and how I can easily destroy him if I think about his moves and what I can do about them.
Nice video. As a request, I think it would be cool if you release more bot videos of you playing against the advanced bots, showing players in the 1500-2000 ELO range how to beat harder bots like Antonio, Isabel, Wally, and Li.
I haven't played chess in 12 years, Just discovered your channel recently. Love your narrations and teachings. I actually beat Nelson my first time playing again and i never really considered myself a good player but I guess i do have something.
The funny thing is, Nelson, actually, one of the easiest 1200-1300 bots and can be beaten on very low player's elo (700-800). If you attack his quinn aggressively, he is programmed to blunder it (or so it seems). After that he can do some surprisingly good combinations, but if you play safe, exchange and don't blunder pieces - Nelson is relatively easy to deal with. By the end of the day, Nelson is great to practice scholar's mate and related attacks defences.
DOWN GOES NELSON!!! I’m a new player (~600 Rapid playing for ~4 months), and Nelson has been my nemesis for ages. Watched this vid and beat him on the second game 🙌🏼
Nelson is easy , for anyone can’t beat him here’s a tip always try to use horse to fork his pieces just be aggressive then he’s like uh oh I’m dead lol
Got got into chess more seriously recently, and I’m absolutely terrorising Nelson. Best way is to start with white and use the Wayward Queen opening on him (his own medicine) and I kinda did something similar to the Ponziani too, bringing both my horses out and keeping a queen trade up for offer. He’s gonna be too scared to trade, so develop ur pieces as much as u can, then take his queen in a trade. Easy sailing from there if u know what ur doing.
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suprised Levy took a day off from having magnus' meat in his mouth
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What the heck mannn 😂😂😂😂😂
Nelson is the OG opp
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It's chess itself
nice M3GAN bot, her rating went up xD
@@kevinzhang2829 muh-three-gan
Nelson's got an unhealthy obsession with his queen. In my experience, swapping queens off as soon as you get a chance works pretty well; without his favourite piece, Nelson quickly loses the plot. Just stay solid in the opening, watch out for any queen-related shenanigans he tries, swap queens if you can, and wait for him to blunder. Once he hangs a piece (and he will) he quickly self-destructs.
He blunders it so much when I play him lol
Magnesium Carlos strikes again
This is exactly what I did the first time I played him. After the first 5 moves both queens were gone making it a more simplified game. I beat him on my first but I have been only playing chess for about 5 months.
That’s how I beat him.
So my offer to trade queens after castles was not just "trade to simplify complicated position", but also one of the winning tactics, nice. And exactly, after this and him winning my light bishop he blundered fork to his light bishop and then, the same fork to the dark bishop.
How to destroy Nelson : Just let him destroy himself early game
honest to god the first time i played nelson i was black and the opening was i shit you not
1. g4 e5 2. f3
Do not interupt your oponent when he is making a mistake
alternative destruction - 0:00
@@thatoneguy9582 - I had a similar experience - I am 700 rapid - now - lower then - and Nelson scared the s@@t out of me! I can now beat him with ease and have moved on to the higher level bots. Still can't beat humans though - lol!!!!
@@honeychurchgipsy6 you know you can swear on the internet right?
I've played Nelson hundreds of times. His range of play seems to oscillate between 600 and 2200. Sometimes he plays his usual cheesy openings, and sometimes he mixes it up and plays extremely well.
Yea that's low elo engine play in a nutshell, they will play like a GM for 12+ moves and then just play a garbage move and hang a piece or something.
@@avexus7756 fax
Nelson is a sheet bot ,he thinks queen is the best piece huh?,what if we traded the queen early.Then he is sheet and nothing much more than that😉
@@DigBick_123 I’ve tried that. It doesn’t work
@@VangaurdLeader07 bro it requires some iq too, only queen trades aren't much, your moves matter😂
Nelson started feeling like a joke very shortly after I found this channel, but he's definitely the biggest roadblock for people who don't have anyone teaching them past how the pieces move. I really appreciate how Levy will intentionally play worse moves in complicated positions so that the game runs more similarly to how people who need this content might play.
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Nelson is also hard as sometimes it seems like he is playing like a 2000 and other times he just blunders a rook.
Nelson literally made me want to learn all these early mates just so I can learn how to avoid them.
@don't be surprised don't be surprised if you don't get any females.
@@alexplaysandedits2356 Lol💀💀💀
Then he fulfilled his purpose, most of those bots are utter trash, but they have their uses in learning early on.
@@mariuszpudzianowski8400 I've started to notice that. I still have a lot to learn being in the triple digits, but even I can see when some of these lower rated bots that are at or above my skill level randomly blunder in a way that can not be explained in any logical sense.
I played Nelson few times, but he just keep throwing his game away, can anyone please explain why's that?
This could be a good series where you take on each BOT in order and show strategies to beat them.
he already did this
I second this!
@hope. Don't click on this video he is tricking you
He already did it, it’s called beating the bots or sometjing
Its kinda counter-productive because it removes all challenge to figure it out urself
I really like that Levy says "we" when he's playing chess by himself instead of "I," because there's a calming sense that we're playing together and he's helping us all along.
Thank you.
Literally WHO asked tho????? 🤓🤓
@@chrisdawson1776 fr dawg this npc ass dude contributed nothing 🤣💀
@@chrisdawson1776 I asked
@@chrisdawson1776 I asked
@@chrisdawson1776 WE ASKED
The issue with Nelson is he follows the top Stockfish's move for the first 8ish moves - well after the Scholar's Mate threat is finished. So basically, he plays at 3200 elo for 8 moves before he's allowed to make a mistake.
I'm 850 elo, and I've beaten Nelson a couple times. Although I can't beat Isabel to save my life
Same... I float between 850 and 900 Isabel is a beast 😂
same but 750-850
@@dermotshaw6775 Im actually 670 ELO and I can beat Isabel, but Wally.. that's tough
Great for you that u can beat nelson at 850!
"I'm 550 elo, and I've beat Nelson once. Although I can't beat Isabel to save my life"
I mean, once you play a couple of games against him, you realise he blunders his queen every game. All you need to do is not get scholar's mated. Keep your defense up and develop pieces.
he's really good with his queen so I always like to swap queens with him when possible. he is pretty bad after he loses it.
I pkayed london system and he blundered
What? No bruh its the opposite. I have never seen him blunder his Queen. I have seen him blunder literally every single piece in his hand to protect that Queen but never his Queen. If you forked his king and his queen he would reprogram himself to resign and let you have the king. Nelson is a the single most deranged chess bot in existance.
'couple games'. Depends on your level starting out. There are a lot of fundamentals to learn against him. Not everyone is a natural 1200 or whatever you think is average chess noob range.
@@thomasmacmanus9913 nah. i started out as a 500, played some games against him, and after like my fourth game with him, he had no new moves. I learnt to avoid his threats, keep up development, and won a game, granted, it was terribly long. You can learn to beat him, cuz he makes predictable moves
I love how Nelson can play like a grandmaster for 4 moves and then blunder every piece he has
I've played Nelson countless times and lost from foolish blunders even after learning to defend the Scholar's mate. I must say, the criss-cross apple sauce checkmate felt like sweet and swift justice. Thanks for the video 👍
You can immediately punish the early Queen attack if playing as White in a better way
1. e4, e5
2.Nf3, Qf6
3. Bc4, Qh6
4. Nxe5, Qg5
5. Qf3, Qxe5 (this does give up a knight but you immediately get back material)
6. Qxf7+, Kd8
7. Qxf8+, Qe8
8. Qxg7
You can just play it by ear from here, because this is when the bot's moves start to differ between games but it's very easy to beat him after this sequence of moves, just have solid principles and don't blunder anything
just started learning chess instead of playing chess and you are my favorite person to learn from, incredibly smart and easy to understand. love you man
Nelson is the reason I tried to get better at chess
i want to beat him
in rl
I really like this style of video where he really keeps it simple and just takes us through step by step.
Thats why i like Anna Cramling
3 things about Nelson:
1. Avoid scholars mate
2. Take blundered queen
3. Take forked rook with knight
Nelson literally blundered his queen against me on move 5. No 1300 plays like this.
1. e4 c6 2. Qh5 d5 3. d3 Nf6 4. Qe5 Nbd7 5. Bd2 Nxe5 6. f4 Ned7 7. e5 Ng8 8. Ne2
e6 9. Kd1 f6 10. h4 fxe5 11. fxe5 Nxe5 12. d4 Nc4 13. Bc1 Nf6 14. b3 Nd6 15. Bd2
Bd7 16. h5 h6 17. Bf4 Qe7 18. Be5 O-O-O 19. Rh3 Ng4 20. Rf3 Nxe5 21. dxe5 Ne4
22. g4 Qg5 23. Rf7 Qxg4 24. Kc1 Qg5+ 25. Nf4 Ba3+ 26. Nxa3 Rhf8 27. Kb1 Rxf7
28. Bg2 Rxf4 29. Kb2 Qxg2 30. Re1 c5 31. Nb1 Rf2 32. Rd1 Rxc2+ 33. Ka1 Rxa2# *
How did Nelson manage to lose 21 points of material??? Also, as a bonus, let's open the front door to the king with f4, and then throw away castling rights with Kd1 while being down a queen. In what universe would a 1300 play like this??? This would've been perfect for a guess the elo submission, but I don't know if games against bots are accepted.
@@erikstephens6370 Yeah it doesn't make any sense, I feel like I've had tougher games against lower rated bots. Guess sometimes logic goes out the window with inferior bots or maybe Nelson is overwhelmed with so many people playing him recently.
He always blunders queen against me
YOU'RE TELLING ME THAT A THIRTEEN HUNDRED RATED PLAYER HUNG A PIECE ON MOVE FIVE- oh wait-
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would be cool to make this a full serie with every episode taking on a bot (that has a precise playstyle) to teach us how to play against different opponent and their strenghts / weakness.
The early queen attack speaks for itself
But seriously tho, most people who go for Wayward Queen or Scholar's Mate have no idea what to when it doesn't work.
@@mariuszpudzianowski8400 It's hilarious how many times they will blunder their queen after you play good defense.
@@mariuszpudzianowski8400 After playing chess a fair bit I never go for scholar's mate unless I am absolutely certain I am playing against an absolute amateur.
The opening position for SM just feels so shit when your opponent knows a little bit of defense
@@mariuszpudzianowski8400 I have to resist the urge to humiliate my opponent in chat when they try to do Scholar's Mate, it's probably against the chess rules but they gotta stop playing lol
@@postsingluarity6159 I get playing bongcloud cause it's a meme opening (although I won 60% games I played with it) but Scholars is kinda insulting, like they think you are dumb enough to fall for it
He used to destroy me, but since then I learned a lot more about the game. Now I play him every once in a while and I beat him every time thanks to your teachings about chess.
LITERALLY who aaked? 🐸🐸
@@chrisdawson1776 You think you're funny?
@@chrisdawson1776 that’s not how RUclips comments section works you weirdo
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@@chrisdawson1776 Go away zoomer.
This is so good. I’m past this level of play now, but like 3 weeks ago I was being crushed in blitz by early queen players, and so I opted to go back to studying.
I figured I’d play computers and get better and watch more on my favorite openings so far. The problem is: early queen play is not something that gets covered in opening education because opening study just goes over the proper lines and their variations prior to mid-game.**
Well, in my quest to improve I ran into Nelson and was like omg not this again!! More queen nonsense!
So I decided to scour YT, and even your channel, for all the ways to truly punish these types of players. But alas- there was no definitive content for this stuff.
But now you’ve gone and posted exactly what I was needing before! So awesome! And it’s still very helpful bc now I can solidify everything I did manage to learn before to get over that hump.
** side note: a great tip for creating useful content imo would be for you to make vids about each opening again, but instead of the common lines- addressing say, 3-5 main mistakes your opponent might make that end the book lines too early, thus putting them at a disadvantage since the book lines do go on as long as they do for good reason; because if you get a line that isn’t a known variation there is likely a good reason it’s not a variation (it’s punishable by one side or the other).
That’s just something I noticed in my quest to improve at chess: all the content on openings never actually goes over “well black does this in response, because if they did say X, Y, or Z- any of these early deviations from the proper lines can be punished in A, B, and C ways.”
You can find more content like this to help against aggressive early queen attacks by searching for 'wayward queen' attack
Super helpful Levy! I like that we can practice playing the bots after watching the techniques and really get a handle on how to play them.
Just wanna express a theory I thought of involving mittens:
Basically the bot M3GAN was originally rated 850 elo but out of nowhere a few days ago she gained 200 elo by defeating 2 of the lower rated cat bots as they posed as rivals to the player. This means the M3GAN is most likely against chess bots beating the player, so my theory is that after some time M3GAN will slowly defeat the remaining 3 cat bots (including mittens) and reach a level of playing strength above, even, mittens and therefore will act as the new most powerful chess bot, who will most likely ace as the next Mittens but be even stronger
Too bad I already whooped her ass. But credit for her actually playing somewhat like a 1k rated player not like other bots who have 1k+ ranking but play like 500s.
If that’s true it’ll be a bit of a shame that Mittens gets usurped by a movie ad
@@TheWizerd64yeah I’d be disappointed
I was wondering where that came from. Im like ok “creepy bots”, and this one isn’t a cat. Thanks for pointing out its the title and character from a movie. Wow I’ve been living under a rock I guess.
@@TheWizerd64 If they do that they'll lose the hype. M3gan isn't going to catch on like Mittens.
Nelson trained Mittens to kill people student becomes master
Bro e what 😭😰😱👺
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Nelson Seems to have gotten much easier lately. Previously I could not beat him at all, but recently I beat him twice after he blundered his queen both times.
@Donelle Reed - perhaps you are getting better!
I know they sometimes do tweaks here and there which may affect the perceived difficulty. One thing to be aware of - the bots are easier to beat on the phone than through a browser.
@@steven631764 - Oh, why is that? I play on my tablet using the app - haven't tried using the browser on a PC - but I can't think why there would be a difference - can you elaborate please?
@@honeychurchgipsy6 That was my feeling after having played against bots on my phone and then on my pc through the browser. I could be wrong about there being a difference.
Assuming that the chess engine used to generate moves for the bots runs locally (on the device and not their servers) which I believe is the case, then one device may be able to look at a greater depth in the same amount of time. So if they're set to run for a certain period of time each move then one will come up with better moves than the other. Probably the developers would try to even them out, thus the engine may run a bit longer on the 'weaker' engine. But they may limit how long the engine can run to keep it more responsive to the user.
You should take what I said with a big grain of salt. Of course you can test for yourself. Play 100 games against a bot using one device then 100 against the same bot on the other device. Then compare win rates. That could take a while... 😄
Def did. He got nerfed hard
2:33 one arrow away from ending your career
if you actually want to beat nelson, just do these series of moves and youll trap his queen:
you are playing as white
d4 e6
nf3 qf6
e4 d5
e5 qf5
bd3 qh5
o-o nc6
h3 nge7
kh2 defending your pawn a5 by nelson
and you play g4 trapping his queen
you are welcome
if he doesnt play those moves resign and start again a couple of times he will eventually play something along those lines
I honestly think the key for 1000 ish ELO players to beat Martin is to take your time and think through the lines. The best advice to be better I think, remains, don’t play short time controls
Bro you right now roasted 1000 ELO players, saying that they can't beat Martin, 250 ELO bot 💀
@@evgenivasileuski559 Martin is the definition of useless
@@pig6293 Martin literally hung 4 pieces to one of my pawns in a recent game I played with him.
@@pig6293 yeah, sadly, I agree with you
@@SG2048-meta i captured his queen under 10 moves lmao
I love your style of video, it feels like a podcast/livestream but in video format and they are educational. 👏 good job.
Levy went for the principled 1. e4 e5 2. Qh5 Nc6 answer to the early queen attack, which is the best and probably the easiest way to meet it.
But there's also a funny gambit where you instead play 1. e4 e5 2. Qh5 Nf6, giving up the e5 pawn for development and initiative. It even has a funny name, "Kiddie Countergambit".
I like 1... d5 against Nelson, because he still plays 2. Qh5, then 2... Nf6 attacks the queen and defends the pawn on d5. Can usually win the e pawn that way and get a nice strong center.
20:56 “you can’t ladder mate him”
Nelson: “let me help you with that”
The waffle house has found its new host
18:43 I think there is mate after Qd8+ that's a nice move
I, as a 450 elo, beat Nelson a few times and I'm sometimes very confused at those bots' moves. They randomly hang their queen and it's a free piece. I mean....I'm not complaining
Edit- I'm 800 now 🗿
One bot literally let me take three in pieces in a row with the same pawn and then promote. lol
it's because bots can't tell the difference between material imbalance and position imbalance. So it wants to give you a three pawn advantage but sometimes it will look very stupid. TBH that's why it's just more fun to play against real people.
I doubt that you beat nelson as a 450.
I beat nelson as a 460 lol yesterday
@@irgendana25 Maybe his is Ascendant, who right now is lower rated, but will quickly ascend in a couple of weeks. I was too, I ascended to 650 from 350 in 1 month after one month of training. Also, beat Nelson today and after the queen trade, that was easy (even tho, his ponies were intimidating, before we traded them)
*Nelson makes a move*
Levi: that’s completely a brain dead move
How to destroy Nelson
Step 1: Call Mittens
You can actually take Nelson’s queen within the first few moves if you play as white, (idk how I discovered it lol)
1. C4
2.Qa4
3.g4
4.Nf3
he won’t move his queen (for some reason) and you can take it with your knight! Hope this helped :)
What's interesting about Nelson is that you do NOT want to Queen trade early or even midgame, as he actually plays quite competently without a queen, and you're without one. he plays quite a lot higher than 1300 anyways.
The goal is either to take it for free (obviously) or more likely make it irrelevant.
I’ve watched videos where the explanation is basically trade queens early. But Nelson still somehow ends up playing 2000 against me without one 😫
I am so unbelievably bad at chess (200-300) but Levy you make the game so incredibly exciting that I always try again. Thanks for all your content!
keep up the practice man i was also 300 but now climbed to 600 all cause of practice.
Its a matter of practice bro, just analyze after games and keep playing
I got out of there and went and crushed Nelson. Nice to have my Country represented! 🇿🇦
As a 924 rating, i played a lot with bots and recently i beat 1800 and 2000 bot respectively with white pieces. that was impossible almost for me and it happened.
why the respectively?¿
@@sanket8696 it means in a row. First i played with 1800 and after that i played with 2000.
How is that possible? I'm 1200 and struggle against Wally (1800). Did you play with 3 stars?
@@sanket8696 then you're clearly over 1000
@@elomemes8065 I'm 1450 and I've beaten 2000 rated bots. Use your infinite time to its fullest and eventually you'll get it.
Levy are you gonna talk about the megan bot, It just "Killed" the angry cat and scaredy cat bots
Watching this after beating nora (2200 bot that plays early queen attacks) makes me feel like a menace to society
Dude I yesterday beat an NM and also a FM in over the board chess in a tournament, and as a 1500 I can't believe it. I'm posting this just to share my happiness. Even that FM was our country's 2nd top rated active player
I’m considerably bad at chess and litteraly got the app a week ago (700elo) 😢.
About 3 days ago my younger cousin (450elo) somehow beat Nelson in his first attempt. I attempted to beat Nelson and lost repeatedly. Thankfully this video has saved me, and I have now officially beaten Nelson.
Levy thank you for your videos you speak so clearly so everybody can understand what you say and mean. Thank you for helping us improve at chess while having fun watching your videos❤
this video is just Levy recklessly roasting nelson
Levy, fun content. You did a Nelson bashing a while back but this one was better because you discussed chess technique. You might have last time but I was brand new and prob didn't grasp it like this time. Thanks for simplifying in this manner. Been with ya for 3 years.
I have been stuck at Nelson for months. Your video inspired me to take him on again.
First thing to learn: beat Nelson. Second thing to learn: be Nelson. Third thing to learn: not be Nelson.
It’s great to have this more beginner oriented content for people like me that know little-to-no theory!
Get rid of his queen early game. He relies on it so when you get rid of it, he goes down to 900 elo.
Love this one! Please make more videos showing how to win against specific bots/type of players. Thank you
Here, Levy is like my older brother stepping in to take care of the bigger kid who’s been bullying me.
Man still uploads the best contant for us after 2 years HUGE respect 🙏
Now we need a "how to beat mittens"
Never in eternity and here before it blows up
did you mean "how to boot up a chess engine"
?
Play bullet and survive 20 moves ez
24:10 Levy was so disappointed with Nelson . LoL🤣
Nelson. Why do you keep developing your queen to an exposed square? Nelson:Heh. Im planning something.
I am not gonna lie i am stuck at 1400 but cant beat nelson THANKS I NEEDED THIS
@@user-yw2mh1hp5w OH MY GOD I AM SORRY I BEAT HIM BUT FORGOT CUZ I HATED THE WAY HE PLAYED AND THOUGHT I WAS STILL TRYING TO DEFEAT NELSON i am now at 1458 and i HAVE beat nelson sry HAHAHAH😂 no lie btw
@@jeedununderstandable mistake, nelson is annoying
@jeedun - it goes to show that we are often doomed to lose against certain styles of play. I am 700 and can beat Nelson 9 out of 10 games. I played him again and again - did a few lectures on punishing early queen moves - and bingo - easy. Human beings, on the other hand, are just too random at low levels. Also, bots give up and are shit in an end game, so if you can survive through the opening and middle game you're going to win. Even Katspurrov plays like this.
@@honeychurchgipsy6 no but nelson is easy for me now too like REALY easy but this would be my oppinion like 1 year ago
@@jeedun - well done, but my point stands that often we are beaten by a style of play or an opening that we don't know. I could beat the 1400 bot David more easily than the 1200 Elena because of her aggressive style.
Day 2 of asking Gotham to play FPS chess
Please continue this series with Mittens
😂
Trying to let Nelson destroy himself, nearly ended up with my phone being destroyed
2:35 u messed 1 up and forgot about the other 🙋🏻♂️🇦🇹🖌️
As a beginner, I think this is the most helpful chess channel out there. Thank you Mr. Levy. 👍
The timing of this video could not be more perfect. I am a very new player working my way through the bots and Nelson was giving me a bit of a hard time, especially the other day when I was sick. I managed to beat him without assistance but I look forward to finishing this video to improve more.
Day 40 of me telling Gotham he is a great teacher 😊
here:
Nelson: E4
Black: E5
Nelson: qH5
Black: bc5
Nelson: qxe5+
Black: Qe7
Nelson:Qxg7
Black: Qh8
Nelson: Qxh8
Black: Qxf2+
Nelson: Kd1 (forced)
Black: Qxf1#
Wow... this... this taught me a lot. Not just about bearing Nelson, but also about countering early quen plays.
5:22 through 5:58 had me on the floor
"Look at this degenerate"
(gets pressured on an unprotected knight)
"Umm... Ok. Well..."
Has this video not been done already?
I distinctly remember you teaching us how to defeat Nelson, and me defeating him just before I had watched your video...
“That move is completely brain dead” 😂😂😂
Thanks Levy, Nelson used to do me over. After taking on board these lessons I've absolutely humiliated him (it), including a comeback after my early blunder. I'll never fear Nelson again!
Thank god I’m not alone with this guy. A painful 20 hours of queen attacks and I’m now here.
@3:15 this is the lesson I needed. "If there's no clear benefit for an exchange, keep the tension" 🙌🏻 wasting moves for nothing
The Nelson slander in the beginning was ferocious
Nelson is like the trash talking amateur at the park on a Sunday chess afternoon game
I have never beaten Nelson before and after this video I proceeded to destroy him. I didn't even play what I learned from this video. I played a queen's gambit (I dont really know it but I thought Nelson would be easy now) and so I played solidly and slowly took him down until he blundered mate. Thanks Levi, you helped me understand why I lose to Nelson and how I can easily destroy him if I think about his moves and what I can do about them.
Nice video. As a request, I think it would be cool if you release more bot videos of you playing against the advanced bots, showing players in the 1500-2000 ELO range how to beat harder bots like Antonio, Isabel, Wally, and Li.
25:13 His reaction to Nelson's super blunder lmaooo
I just got back into chess after an 18 year hiatus and Nelson has been clapping my cheekies for the last week
When Nelson plays McConnell defense bring your bishop to C4 immediately, he will blunder every time
4:25 missed opportunity to sing “rook b1, rook b1, make a move that makes no sense”
"The criss cross applesauce checkmate!"
Everybody liked that
Idk how but the very moment i decide to check this channel for some Nelson cheesing i find it right away
I haven't played chess in 12 years, Just discovered your channel recently. Love your narrations and teachings. I actually beat Nelson my first time playing again and i never really considered myself a good player but I guess i do have something.
The funny thing is, Nelson, actually, one of the easiest 1200-1300 bots and can be beaten on very low player's elo (700-800). If you attack his quinn aggressively, he is programmed to blunder it (or so it seems). After that he can do some surprisingly good combinations, but if you play safe, exchange and don't blunder pieces - Nelson is relatively easy to deal with.
By the end of the day, Nelson is great to practice scholar's mate and related attacks defences.
lmao the sheer amount of insults targeted at Nelson in this video almost makes me feel bad for him
oh I'm a lucky winner?
and you're a scam just like Nelson 🤡
Dude I was just playing against Nelson and lost. Levy is such a nice boy for this video.
Everyone who knows Nelson listening to Levy describe him: "Yep. Yep. Yep. Exactly. Certainly."
The God Nelson. I trade queen, take rook... Still cannot win ever. NELSON THE CHESS GOD.
Nelson is easy to beat
Just take is queen and he's absolutely useless
He sucks at identifying threats and falls for advanced traps
“Want to crush the Nelson chess bot?” OH MY GOD!!! YES!
Shit, now my opening is gonna work on people less.
Fun fact , turn on assistance when you play against mittens, it defeats mittens easily.
I love how mittens is a meme despite M3GAN is killing all the cats
DOWN GOES NELSON!!!
I’m a new player (~600 Rapid playing for ~4 months), and Nelson has been my nemesis for ages. Watched this vid and beat him on the second game 🙌🏼
Nelson is easy , for anyone can’t beat him here’s a tip always try to use horse to fork his pieces just be aggressive then he’s like uh oh I’m dead lol
Got got into chess more seriously recently, and I’m absolutely terrorising Nelson. Best way is to start with white and use the Wayward Queen opening on him (his own medicine) and I kinda did something similar to the Ponziani too, bringing both my horses out and keeping a queen trade up for offer. He’s gonna be too scared to trade, so develop ur pieces as much as u can, then take his queen in a trade. Easy sailing from there if u know what ur doing.