Thanks for responses. I was on staff when i wrote and produced this at Sega of America. S2 was done in Japan so most of my music was only on SOA titles. We over wrote for most projects. I will post more unreleased tracks from my Genesis demos in coming days.
What exactly was the intended purpose for these tracks? Were they meant to be place holders? Were they meant to be used in the game before Nakamura took over? Or were they intended to be used alongside his music? Thank you.
He actually revealed what the song was already. While he didn't play the actual song on the tape he realized that the song was actually remixed in Sonic Adventure as Twinkle Park's music. ruclips.net/video/4qAnfh8X8wU/видео.html
So many questions.... Team Sonic did relocate to SOA at one point when they were still STI (Sega Technical Institute). Can't remember if S2 was SOJ or SOA, but S3 definitely was because Michael Jackson toured our studios! (a story for another time!). My music reel/demo cart was a custom job by DTS engineer Ken Chao. He built the shell and I provided my Genesis/GEMS files. ROM image must be long gone by now... :( but at least I have the cart! Capturing more soon...
Hey, just a note: if your cartridge is still able to boot on a Genesis console, you can extract the data from it fairly easily, and recover the ROM image from it! I haven't seen a picture of the cartridge board itself, so there's no telling how complicated it might be, but chances are your cartridge is fairly simple engineering-wise, containing an EEPROM chip with the compiled program on it. You might want to have this done professionally for your own backup, even if you don't plan on sharing the data online, because bit-rot does happen to EEPROM and PROM chips over time.
Sonic 2 CD was basically an early Sonic 2, with a linear time travel plot. i.e. You don't actively time travel like in CD, but it'd serve as a level transition. It would've involved exploring various zones in Westside Island in the present, a bad present, a bad future, and the past. e.g. Emerald Hill, Dust Hill, Chemical Plant, and Hilltop were all gonna represent the same zone across 4 time periods. Eventually, Sonic would've entered a zone in the past called Olympus (Hidden Palace?), where he likely would've gained his super form. The game was still in a pretty early state when they came up with that, so most of it likely wasn't implemented when they decided to split it into two projects.
I'm sure many others asked this, but would it be possible to dump the rom and host it somewhere? This is mind blowingly awesome, and I'd like to see what else is hidden within this!
@Mega Man Nintendo doesn’t hold the copyright, sega does. Nintendo has no control over Sonic or early development roms or anything of the sort relating to him. He’s a Sega property, not a Nintendo one.
I wonder if one of these tracks was meant to be used in Genocide City / Cyber City, Rock Zone, Dust Hill, Wood Zone and etc. I really love everything about Sonic 1, 2 and 3's beta content / scrapped content.
@@ghxstevxrt6448 Dust Hill seems to fit more with what became Oil Oceans track, a unused zone even uses Oil Oceans theme thats thought to be Dust Hills leftover. This is probably something to do with Casino Night.
A few quick question for clarity, was the club scene music track early place holders or were they meant for levels, did the level make it into the final game? Also were you going to compose with Nakamura or was this just a creative placeholder ?
the composer explained that this was actually a theme made for no level in mind, i guess the sonic 2 composers would just make tracks and the game devs would see which would level it would fit in
I like how gamehut who teases his beta Sonic 3d blast music, you just release it. But then again... You made it and own it. Jun S. Owns the 3d blast soundtrack.
Guys, listen it 1.25 or 1.50 speed, sounds good too. this is so amazing, can't believe this happen. Seriously thank you for releasing your sample (which actually sounds really good, awesome work) you gave something incredible to the sonic community, not all people who has old/secret/unreleased material about any product does this so this act it's greatly appreciated, and i can totally see someone getting inspired by your track and using it for a lot of fan sonic projects in a way of showing their appreciation to you. thanks again sir.
Thanks a bunch for sharing this! This is certainly a strange piece of Sonic 2 history. It's especially strange that Sonic 2 was once slated to use the GEMS synthesizer instead of SMPS like it does now.
I was just curious, when I listened to this parts of it reminded me of the opening song from Cabaret, yeah that musical. Was that any inspiration for this? Or is it just coincidence since they're both club/Cabaret style music?
I get a Final Fantasy vibe from this track. xD It would definitely fit a RPG IMO. This is awesome regardless, thank you for sharing this with us David!
00 sounded like it was to be used when Sonic starts an Act. 01 is of course that beloved _SE-GA!_ 02 probably would have been an intro to Casino Night or maybe a boss cutscene. Also, that animation of Tails sleeping is adorable!
My theory for this is that this could’ve been a cutscene when transitioning from casino night to hilltop, or mystic cave depending on the zone order, since it says club scene it most likely could’ve been related the casino night. It could’ve also been after sonic defeats the casino night boss and chases him down.
Thanks for uploading this! When I get older I’m thinking about working for Sega so I might remix this track! It’s one of the best Sonic Track in the world!
I have a theory, sonic FANS! the dev's were probably thinking of adding cut scenes into the game! It does say club SCENE! It would be how sonic three works. It also says choose sequence which would make sence for a cut scene!
All The Music Sounds Fantastic and I Love it! This just proves that Beta Content from Old Games (that have lots of things from the beta already discovered) can still be found to this day!
I know 3 years ago I mentioned that this sounded like a desert-themed level (and it still kinda does). But I know now that Sand Shower was actually going to use what became Oil Ocean's music. Also, listening to this one again, it almost sounds like it could've worked in a haunted house-type level. I read online that Mystic Cave was going to be a sort of haunted house-type stage, and that it basically evolved from Mountain Madness (either that, or aspects of Mountain Madness were re-used for what would become Mystic Cave). In fact, if you listen to this song and Mystic Cave's music, they're both in the same key and they both have sort of a "spooky" vibe. This music could've matched up nicely with the original Mountain Madness Zone concept.
Thank you for sharing this! I didn't know these tracks exist. They might think that these are not fitting to the Sonic games, but they are still good and mystic tracks for Genesis era. Loved them.
I think the "Club Scene" could've been used for a cutscene that would play before Sonic went to casino night I guess? It was probably scrapped due to size limitations if that was the case. The second, more logical reason could be just a song used for testing the Mega Drive sound chip.
My guess for this theme is that it might have been for genocide city / cyber city zone. It fits that bad future type of feel just like sonic cd. Sonic 2 was originally going to have a time travel feature and plot so it would make sense.
Man I wish Sega actually used this song because of how good it is, but I just don’t know why it ended up being unused... But at least the song is pretty good 🙂
I have little idea why but this sounds like the backing track to a Tom Waits song about a hobo having a knife fight with the devil in a brothel for a bottle of whiskey.
i think this music uses the sonic 2 module and was not actually on the verge of being used on any level it sounds VERY different from what was put in the game or even in the betas and at the start it says "module test"
This don't sound like your metropolis zone, or your oil ocean, maybe had a little of mystic caves, but anyway this doesn't sound bad, maybe for Sonic 2 doesn't sound so well to me, but this is great anyway. A little piece of Sonic History was here now
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Thanks for responses. I was on staff when i wrote and produced this at Sega of America. S2 was done in Japan so most of my music was only on SOA titles. We over wrote for most projects. I will post more unreleased tracks from my Genesis demos in coming days.
What exactly was the intended purpose for these tracks? Were they meant to be place holders? Were they meant to be used in the game before Nakamura took over? Or were they intended to be used alongside his music? Thank you.
Yes thank you
This is some incredible work! i'm excited to hear what you share in the upcoming days! 👀
@@2004DMP copyright 1993 if the tracks were made that year i'd mean it was meant to be for sonic spinball seeing as he was staff at SOA
Can you PLEASE dump it online? That way it can be preserved forever and not be lost should something inevitably happen to the cartridge
So many mysteries behind Sonic 2..
Unused stages
Music
Now this??
This game becomes more clouded and mysterious
And we even got more sprites for unused badniks (also sonic 1's beta pallet)
It kinda scared me
mhm
Should have had like 20 stages. It would have been even better.
@Aqua man true
The more I think about it the more club scene sounds like a potential theme for Robotnik/boss theme
Reminds of yoshikage kira's theme
“I’M GONNA RID THAT HEDGEHOG OF M-MOBIUS!!”
*Killer queen has already touched that mobius*
"Killer queen has already touched that chaos emerald"
@@donkeycheese8098
Killer queen has already touched that ring
Now if only Sega would let Jon at GameHut upload that demo tape of 3D Blast!
I hope there is a S2 Demo Tape too. This would sound amazing
Did he say he wasn't allowed to?
@@trentonthompson247 Not until he gets clearance from Sega.
He actually revealed what the song was already. While he didn't play the actual song on the tape he realized that the song was actually remixed in Sonic Adventure as Twinkle Park's music.
ruclips.net/video/4qAnfh8X8wU/видео.html
Done.
So many questions.... Team Sonic did relocate to SOA at one point when they were still STI (Sega Technical Institute). Can't remember if S2 was SOJ or SOA, but S3 definitely was because Michael Jackson toured our studios! (a story for another time!). My music reel/demo cart was a custom job by DTS engineer Ken Chao. He built the shell and I provided my Genesis/GEMS files. ROM image must be long gone by now... :( but at least I have the cart! Capturing more soon...
Thank you so much for taking the time to share this & more!
Hey, just a note: if your cartridge is still able to boot on a Genesis console, you can extract the data from it fairly easily, and recover the ROM image from it! I haven't seen a picture of the cartridge board itself, so there's no telling how complicated it might be, but chances are your cartridge is fairly simple engineering-wise, containing an EEPROM chip with the compiled program on it.
You might want to have this done professionally for your own backup, even if you don't plan on sharing the data online, because bit-rot does happen to EEPROM and PROM chips over time.
Michael Jackson was amazing, that's so cool!
Oh that Michael Jackson story sounds neato
If you want to dump those I'm pretty sure people will be happy to assist
We need a ROM dump of this. I want to hear this coming from my Mega Drive.
Man thank you for sharing this! The community is going to go nuts!
The way the fanfare played, makes this seem like stuff from the Unreleased Sonic 2 CD port
Sonic 2 CD was basically an early Sonic 2, with a linear time travel plot.
i.e. You don't actively time travel like in CD, but it'd serve as a level transition. It would've involved exploring various zones in Westside Island in the present, a bad present, a bad future, and the past.
e.g. Emerald Hill, Dust Hill, Chemical Plant, and Hilltop were all gonna represent the same zone across 4 time periods.
Eventually, Sonic would've entered a zone in the past called Olympus (Hidden Palace?), where he likely would've gained his super form.
The game was still in a pretty early state when they came up with that, so most of it likely wasn't implemented when they decided to split it into two projects.
@Pochy & Harold by TheGBCREW Pretty much.
Maybe it’s for the master system and game gear version of the game
Tails sleeps as Sonic enjoys the music of the unseen sequences
I'm sure many others asked this, but would it be possible to dump the rom and host it somewhere? This is mind blowingly awesome, and I'd like to see what else is hidden within this!
Samey the Hedgie There May be legal reasons stopping them from doing it.
@@DS-os1sy Hmm.. true I guess
@Shengud
Keep in mind that Sega isn’t very strict when it comes to copyright.
@@ClownDuck
Nintendo would go all out.
@Mega Man
Nintendo doesn’t hold the copyright, sega does. Nintendo has no control over Sonic or early development roms or anything of the sort relating to him. He’s a Sega property, not a Nintendo one.
I'm so glad you uploaded this
*sonic's face is still as creepy as ever LOL*
It's so amazing we still find unused bits from old games such as Sonic 2. It's amazing to see this come up.
Yeah
The instrumentation is a bit rough but I’m assuming that’s just because it’s unfinished. Sounds great though and very interesting nonetheless!
Nope. It's just the typical GEMS quality instruments you're hearing.
Yo, emneisium!
I think Sonic is staring into our souls right now.
I wonder if one of these tracks was meant to be used in Genocide City / Cyber City, Rock Zone, Dust Hill, Wood Zone and etc.
I really love everything about Sonic 1, 2 and 3's beta content / scrapped content.
I think it is dust hill
@@ghxstevxrt6448 Dust Hill seems to fit more with what became Oil Oceans track, a unused zone even uses Oil Oceans theme thats thought to be Dust Hills leftover. This is probably something to do with Casino Night.
It could sound like Dust Hill Zone because it has that western saloon feeling to it.
I think you're right. It probably just need to be a little more "up-beat", maybe?
@@ultramaster2o1studios53 yeah cause it does sound like a western kind of music
Cool to hear a bunch of music from a game of my childhood that went unused! This is video game history right here. :)
I got a rom
@@gammadosnahtan884 bs
Why do i feel a conection between this "Club Scene" and "Child's Song" from Knuckles Chaotix?
Mecha Sonic
I got those vibes too!
it gives me Chaotix vibes because the samples it used...
Who made the animation for this? That's my question.
Bluecore it’s pretty nice imo
@Glowkitten But its just sonic vibing to the song and Tails sleeping
Glowkitten It REALLY isn’t all that bad.
Tails is dead on the ground while sonic is vibing
A few quick question for clarity, was the club scene music track early place holders or were they meant for levels, did the level make it into the final game? Also were you going to compose with Nakamura or was this just a creative placeholder ?
@@lucasnanami Maybe that's an educated guess!
@LilMissMallow You can have the red Snek 🐍
oh my God it actually happened
¿Piensas hacer vídeo sobre esto?
No me esparaba encontrate aquí xd
Omg es el Jaime sangre
I love how the sonic sprite is keeping tempo
Wowoowow WOW thanks for sharing this after so many years!
At first, I thought it was the scrapped Genocide City Zone, but now it seems more like Casino Night to me
Genocide City/Cyber City is Metropolis.. Modified.
@@relu419 cyber city is just metropolis act 3 with the machine tiles
Maybe it’s for the master system and game gear version of the game
@@rogersstinson4019 ...this isn't 8 bit so it's very unlikely
MCTravisYT oh it sounded like 8 bit to me but ok
this is really good and for this to be found a couple weeks ago and for a game released in 1992
I was wondering what the full version of Club Scene sounds like! Thanks for sharing this video!
GameBot 2000 this is it
It almost reminds me of Aladdin
@@patrickthomas7415It does sound like the Genesis Aladdin game, now that I think about it. 😂
Tails instead of sleeping looks like hes extremely tired of blowing because of this fire song
I live for unreleased/cutting room floor content like this! Thankful you not only still have this, but are sharing it with the online community!!
Everybody gangsta till the guy pulls out the unheard Sonic 2 Music.
I bet this is the theme for Wood Zone. It fits so well!
cookie Craft Wood Zone, the scrapped zone. To me it fits the theme of the stage well for some reason.
the composer explained that this was actually a theme made for no level in mind, i guess the sonic 2 composers would just make tracks and the game devs would see which would level it would fit in
Damn this is really good.
This would fit really well in a Halloween based level.
Honestly, this would be a really nice Casino Night 2P.
Pretty much
@@shihanana I should have expected you here.
Sleeping tails is adorable
I like how gamehut who teases his beta Sonic 3d blast music, you just release it. But then again... You made it and own it. Jun S. Owns the 3d blast soundtrack.
Guys, listen it 1.25 or 1.50 speed, sounds good too.
this is so amazing, can't believe this happen. Seriously thank you for releasing your sample (which actually sounds really good, awesome work) you gave something incredible to the sonic community, not all people who has old/secret/unreleased material about any product does this so this act it's greatly appreciated, and i can totally see someone getting inspired by your track and using it for a lot of fan sonic projects in a way of showing their appreciation to you. thanks again sir.
Thanks a bunch for sharing this! This is certainly a strange piece of Sonic 2 history.
It's especially strange that Sonic 2 was once slated to use the GEMS synthesizer instead of SMPS like it does now.
Is nobody else disturbed by Sonic's Charlie Brown smile and the fact he's standing next to a barely moving Tails lying on the ground?
Tails is sleeping.
I wish the rom could be released, but i'm sure that won't happen
Y O U H A V E T O B E L E V E !
Nah. David has said before that he's only uploading his tracks from the ROM as to avoid legal trouble.
@Weekblues Boi ur EVERYWHERE
I was just curious, when I listened to this parts of it reminded me of the opening song from Cabaret, yeah that musical.
Was that any inspiration for this? Or is it just coincidence since they're both club/Cabaret style music?
Wilkommen, Bienvenue, Welcome.
@@GorinStudios "I'm cabaret, au cabaret, to cabaret!"
Sonic looking at me like this gives me the chills
Tails looks adorable sleeping in this.
Sonic on the other hand. What the hell is that smile!
If the rom could be uploaded, that would make fans really happy!
At x1.25 speed, this song actually sounds like something they could've used in the game.
I get a Final Fantasy vibe from this track. xD It would definitely fit a RPG IMO. This is awesome regardless, thank you for sharing this with us David!
sonikku1011 I get a circus feel from it, would be good for a clown boss in an RPG
-Kefka-
00 sounded like it was to be used when Sonic starts an Act.
01 is of course that beloved _SE-GA!_
02 probably would have been an intro to Casino Night or maybe a boss cutscene.
Also, that animation of Tails sleeping is adorable!
I came from the RUclips recommended .... HOW I NEVER KNEW ABOUT THIS UNTIL NOW?
Sonic is insane, look at his smile
Sonics smile is like hey kids you still like me right you better we will be pals forever and ever now I’m scared
My theory for this is that this could’ve been a cutscene when transitioning from casino night to hilltop, or mystic cave depending on the zone order, since it says club scene it most likely could’ve been related the casino night. It could’ve also been after sonic defeats the casino night boss and chases him down.
Thanks for uploading this! When I get older I’m thinking about working for Sega so I might remix this track! It’s one of the best Sonic Track in the world!
As a sonic fan All of this seems EXTREMELY interesting to me
Thank you for sharing this wonderful discovery!
Sonic the Hedgehog games' secrets will never end!
Sonic is actually snapping in tempo
I can’t believe this is already 2 years old
I have a theory, sonic FANS! the dev's were probably thinking of adding cut scenes into the game! It does say club SCENE! It would be how sonic three works. It also says choose sequence which would make sence for a cut scene!
All The Music Sounds Fantastic and I Love it! This just proves that Beta Content from Old Games (that have lots of things from the beta already discovered) can still be found to this day!
I know 3 years ago I mentioned that this sounded like a desert-themed level (and it still kinda does). But I know now that Sand Shower was actually going to use what became Oil Ocean's music. Also, listening to this one again, it almost sounds like it could've worked in a haunted house-type level. I read online that Mystic Cave was going to be a sort of haunted house-type stage, and that it basically evolved from Mountain Madness (either that, or aspects of Mountain Madness were re-used for what would become Mystic Cave).
In fact, if you listen to this song and Mystic Cave's music, they're both in the same key and they both have sort of a "spooky" vibe. This music could've matched up nicely with the original Mountain Madness Zone concept.
This is one of the best uses of GEMS I have ever heard.
Comix Zone?
I think we are all wondering what happened during that club scene...
@jordan.the.sad.person what? I just wanted to know what type of drink they got.
@jordan.the.sad.person but I live here
@jordan.the.sad.person or how about you move to a different neighborhood?
@jordan.the.sad.person welp.
i really want an HD version of that sonic and tails animation..
0:02 "Kenneth Chao" Lmao that just cracked me up 😅😂
Did you know Ken? Were you around SOA back in the day?
@@m1crowave no it's just that Chao is also the name of a Sonic character which was a funny coincidence
Thank you for sharing this! I didn't know these tracks exist. They might think that these are not fitting to the Sonic games, but they are still good and mystic tracks for Genesis era. Loved them.
TCRF is gonna have a field day with this
tails is so cute when sleeping
I think the "Club Scene" could've been used for a cutscene that would play before Sonic went to casino night I guess? It was probably scrapped due to size limitations if that was the case. The second, more logical reason could be just a song used for testing the Mega Drive sound chip.
Woah! so this is the Pre-Release Music of Sonic 2? That's Awesome! ;-)
Why is tails so *CUTE?!?!*
I can already see remixes of these coming to RUclips in the near future
Alright we all know that Sonic Club Scene mods are gonna come, right?
it will be a glorious day when they do...
0:22 Seems like a early version of the Robotnik theme
This sounds more like the scrapped version of the 3DBlast like less imposing
Sonic’s soulless eyes and Tails limp body on the thumbnail made me think this was some sort of .exe thing
Thank you so much!
It's always amazing to see what sonic games could have been before they were finished.
This is really darn catchy
My guess for this theme is that it might have been for genocide city / cyber city zone. It fits that bad future type of feel just like sonic cd. Sonic 2 was originally going to have a time travel feature and plot so it would make sense.
Why does look like Sonic's mouth is surrounded by blood?
Also his eyes are kind of creepy...
That’s his tongue lmao
Ok, I know this is a huge discovery and all, but...
...can we just talk about how catchy the Club theme is for a second?
I was in a cabaret mood when I wrote it!
Man I wish Sega actually used this song because of how good it is, but I just don’t know why it ended up being unused...
But at least the song is pretty good 🙂
The song is actually abandoned
I have little idea why but this sounds like the backing track to a Tom Waits song about a hobo having a knife fight with the devil in a brothel for a bottle of whiskey.
My favorite track is the Club Scene. 😄😄😄
💖💖💖Man, Sonic 2 has so much intriguing cut content & secrets!~
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Club Scene sounds soo good... it is one of the Best Sonic Scrapped Songs that i've listening.
Man. You are just amazing. The fact you still had this music that has NEVER been heard before. You're too cool
This is so cool! At least if you don't want to dump this online, dump it on your PC so you still have it when something happens to the cartridge.
looks like sonic just murdered tails
Incredible! Thank you so much, we couldve very likely never hear this music. Again, thank you!
This gives me major Dust Hill Zone vibes. Maybe this was the music planned for that stage?
Thanks for uploading this!
Yay!the complete theme of Club Scene
this could be my favourite sonic 2 soundtrack
i think this music uses the sonic 2 module and was not actually on the verge of being used on any level
it sounds VERY different from what was put in the game or even in the betas and at the start it says "module test"
This is evidence of my theory of Sonic 2 originally having cutscenes!
Poco Dyess or maybe the unused music was for the master system and game gear version of the game.
Or maybe club scene was the secret code name for genocide city zone or dust hill zone.
Oh I’m sorry “sand shower zone”. Paaaaaaggghhhh!
Or is quite possible that these tracks are surviving tracks for the sonic CD version of sonic 2.
@@rogersstinson4019 I think it’s either cyber city, mountain madness, or (formerly) death egg zone’s theme
Suddenly itching for Midnight Syndicate to hear this... Awesome work.
This is really awesome and interesting
Club scene is actually really good
This sounds like Genocide city music tbh
how would you even know how genocide city sounds like if theres nothing about the zone except for concept art
Is that Chuckles the Maniacally Laughing Hedgehog?
This theme is so catchy that I can't stop listening to it
This don't sound like your metropolis zone, or your oil ocean, maybe had a little of mystic caves, but anyway this doesn't sound bad, maybe for Sonic 2 doesn't sound so well to me, but this is great anyway.
A little piece of Sonic History was here now
wow! thank you for posting these.
I'm glad you can teach other people how to become great like you.
I wish this was in the game..
it would give out so much nostalgia.
Thanks for sharing this! It's not often for fans of games get to hear stuff like this.
Hey... this is pretty good!
^