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Thank you Liam, have been following Richie since 2012. For 20 yrs prior then i had been in therapy and put on 13 different psyche meds in extreme doses... never worked or helped me at all. Back then no one talked about narcissistic abuse. Diagnosed with PTSD.. other labels.. my psyche Dr said i was an enigma.. Had been med free 8 months when i found Richie on you tube. At last .... the missing piece that put all the pieces of my life together. Narc mom, rageaholic dad ... beat me. @73 it's been a long hard journey in my healing. Infinite gratitude to Richie for his heart and caring to help survivors of narc abuse. Thank you too Liam ❤️
Liked (and subscribed after he sent the email and mentioned you)... Thank you, Liam! So happy to see two Real Men sharing vulnerable life experiences with each other and us, the audience... KEEP being the Truthteller... 🎉🎉🎉
Bloody hell, Liam. The first of your casts/programmes that I've watched all the way through (not down to you or your content: I have CPTSD and issues abround concentration). I watched this in three 'installments'. Both of you were a pleasure to listen to. I've never seen anything like it. Thank you both.
I hope you see this. Please can I ask I'm 39, you're 70 does it get any easier? I was 8 years old when my life was ruined. Every single day, I struggle, u keep being told to let it go.. but how? 😢 thank you if you see this l.
@@tanz909 I hear you. It took me many years to be able to completely drop the negative people with no guilt. I learned the difference. Now I only surround myself with the good ones. They are few and I spend much time alone but I'm OK with that. We are here to learn these things. You are learning. Your memories don't go away. There is no magic. But it does get easier, though challenges of one kind or another, don't stop. That is the nature of life. You are learning how to recognise the people with heart and how to completely dismiss those without heart. Be very good to yourself.
I survived 10 years of CSA. They were never convicted… I never saw that justice. I joined the military and left for Iraq at 18,19, & 20. I never heard anyone else acknowledge that in combat, we have no problems lockin it down and doing the job. But when it comes to everyday, interpersonal relationships, I definitely had trouble saying no and became a target for a covert narcissist. I’ve been single for 12 years not just because of my ex husband but also, I see it now. After years of therapy, I see the signs. Quickly. I’d rather be single FOREVER, or legit deployed overseas, than to be stuck in that hell ever again. The amount of grit it takes for people to talk about their trauma from CSA is not a cake walk. I’ve never heard men do it. Never heard a man tell his story. Thank you both. So goddamn much, 🥺🙏
Richard, you are my fking hero. You are literally making the world a better place every single day. The difference between you and other Narc awareness people is that you are propper clear and concise and no BS. Straight to the point. I'm so greatfull to have found you.
Same here. Back in 2013 I had 3 sessions of NLP whilst you were in Malaysia. Changed my life. Thank you so much. Still follow you today. You also posted a poem I wrote on your fb page. So sorry you went through that as a child. So brave ❤🙏
Liam Tuffs - Respect to you. From my perspective, it seems like Richard Grannon was really comfortable with you and being in your studio. You did an admirable job with this interview and in your own relating and vulnerability. Thank you for sharing your gift with the world.
I can't fathom the guts it takes to put this out there on a rotten platform just so that the few ones who need to hear it get the message across. Thank you for all the work you've done and made available and affordable from the start. You have turned my life around and it debilitates me to think that you've done so much for me without even knowing it. This executive function of yours my man... You're fkn great. You're up there on the micro list of people I'll forever honour for offering me a proper life. Thank you is just not enough.
Some of the Biggest and Brightest Hearts I have ever encountered in my life (unfortunately) come from some of the most horrendous experiences we can think of... Huge Hugs and Blessings to you, Richard! I don't know if you realise how much Good you are doing in the World right now... PLEASE take care! ❤❤❤
The BEST interview of Richard and his life in painful raw vulnerable detail, I have ever seen. Thank you both. God bless. 🇬🇧🙏🏽🏴 prayers for Tommy
I knew Richard had insights that only someone would have who has had their sense of self as a child burnt to the ground, renounced, exiled in the toxic system. Richard you are an amazing human victory over abuse. ❤
Dear Richard, you may not read this but I have been following you for many yeas, I knew there was abused in your life, but not of this magnitude, coming from a very dysfunctional family, with two alcoholics parents I can relate a lot to your past, I wanted to thank you for your vulnerability, your strength, openness and to tell you that I'm so great full for people like you in this world, all blessings for you Dear brother
Richard describes the traits of the covert narc so well it actually reignites those inner feelings of experiencing/living it. He is absolutley brilliant! May he continue to help people understand, recover and learn how to avoid these putried individuals. Thank you.
Now THAT is a good teacher! I taught for 34 years. I hear Richard 100%!! The noise! The lack of understanding of what the child comes to school with... I felt exactly how Richard felt and finally could not take it anymore.
God bless you Richard for sharing your painful story. Your honesty and strength💪will help a lot of people survive their own pain and trauma. Thank you! 🙏😇💖
Absolutely loved this interview 🙌🏼 it felt so authentic! I’ve listened to Richard over the years on & off and I had to stop listening to people bang on about narcissistic abuse because along with dealing with it, educating yourself on it is exhausting in itself. I thought I just have to accept it, and that’s that. But something always niggled at me, “why is my mother like this with me? Just WHY?” & when Richard said they need YOU to be NOTHING feel nothing etc etc , they just play the “power” game ! Omg Yes it’s so true!!, so sad but true & my mother is coming 82 & my god it gets worse with age! But I finally know now. 🤷🏻♀️ I’ll always be thankful for Richard & his videos 🖤 and THANK YOU for this interview!!
Thank you both for sharing with such honesty . Childhood abuse stays with you throughout your life but we can heal the inner child through therapy. Blessings to you both ❤
Fascinating interview. Richard Grannon has brought me through a nightmare and gave me an ⚓️ anchorpoint from which I have since literally turned my life around. I am eternally grateful to him and want to give that child inside of him a deep warm loving hug from the heart ❤️ little did he know how his trauma would help so many. He's incredibly brave 🎉
Such a lovely way to put it.. "to give that child within him a deep, warm hug" . We all so need that and we should think of others in that way too. Thank you for that thought, 🙏💕
Recently I’ve strangely missed Richard, he’s got me through a lot. He’s Educated, prepared, helped me (and many) towards finding reality, a healthy reality. I enjoyed tentacle croissant because, let’s face it and upon his wish….. he wants us to move away from being consumed by narcissism and move on. Guy has been a huge and vital part of mine and many lives and he’s loved and valued as I’m sure he knows. He’s declared “I’m a talking head, I’m not your friend” which he’s not, but he’s certainly cherished by many for his work. Seeing him vulnerable and feeling his feelings and sharing incredibly hard trauma has no doubt made people more grateful and appreciative of him. What a treasure of a man, thanks for sharing this insight. Fabulous, humbling. As always, thank you ❤
I very rarely watch a podcast until the end, but this episode has really engrossed me. It takes guts for a guest to be so honest and open about sexual abuse, so thank you for sharing such painful memories.
I admire Richard's growth and maturity so much. He is a great role model--especially for men; and he gives hope for those who want a relationship with a man. I love how he brought up "honor" in a recent video. I am a big believer in "honor" and desire to be in relationship with someone who I am honored to be with, vice versa. Richard: Please do an extensive video on setting standards and having principles with self and acceptable partner. Like how you talked about stating what is acceptable and what is not, and if partner doesn't agree with (let alone, respect) that, leave. In a prior video, you had given the metaphoric example of eating vanilla ice cream being unacceptable. Also, talking about "liking" others' photos isn't appropriate in a committed relationship. These type of principles and standards you have for yourself and for who you will be with, even though your friends don't relate or agree, are what gave me so much hope that my person exists.
@@Chris-qn6pr Vanilla ice cream analogy - I found it! Richard's video titled "Can A Narcissist Change? Live Q and A" from May 5, 2024; Time stamp 31:18
@@coach_amy thanks for that. I can see he was using a trivial example for illustrative purposes. The point being, you get to choose your own boundaries - whether they seem reasonable by other people’s standards or not.
Chris - yes, exactly (a "safe" example as he called it) . My other comment in this thread points to the time stamp with Richard saying something similar in this video as well. (I wrote my original comment before this video premiered)
I Wish more men would have conversations openly like this it would then make it easier for others to talk about it. So many waiting lists and not enough support.
Wow that was the best. Massive respect Richard. I've watched you since 2014, you educated me & helped me escape an 18 year narcissistic relationship. I will forever be grateful 🙏. Liam, first time watcher, new sub, thank you. Great interview 👍
Liam, first time seeing any of your content and I must say you are an excellent interlocutor and the sound and video quality is fantastic. You didn’t interrupt, or speak over your guest and there was such a feeling of ease in your back and forth. You’re 100% built for doing this kind of work. I came across Richard many years ago when I developed an interest in gaining more knowledge on narcissism, which eventually tailed off. As a long time follower of Ed Dutton, I was extremely happy that Richard and him had teamed up and I could continue watching Richard on a more personal basis that’s not primarily based on narcissism. He’s a sound guy with a very likeable personality. It’s always harrowing to hear about child abuse and my heart goes out to you also in your journey to recovery. It’s admirable that whilst navigating your way through life, you both reveal your most vulnerable selves in the hopes of helping others, which I’m sure many people’s lives have been touched along the way. Although a hard listen at times based on the topic of conversation, it was nonetheless an excellent conversation so thank you both for your time. Much love to you both ❤
Without doubt the best interview I have seen on ANY channel! Came accross Richard a few years ago, but it’s been great seeing him on other platforms talking every day things. Well done Liam! Great job mate! 👍🏼
... and the level of Deep-Deep Grief we go through when we realise how let-down and neglected and unloved, unseen, unaccepted we've been for so long in our childhoods, and then through the life experiences these formative years set us up for, is excruciating... We grieve for our little souls that we were, we grieve for what we ALL should have been given and we were not (and I'm NOT referring here to stuff!), we're grieving for the damage that has been done and cannot be undone, but also, when we get To The Other Side, we are also grieving for the way those that "damaged" us have been damaged themselves... So they couldn't give us what they Didn't Have... It's NOT excusing their behaviour, it's just an attempt at understanding how "f... ked up" this world can be...No child deserves to live this way... IT ENDS WITH US!!! 💔💔💔!
Richard I am so happy to see you are getting better ! You are such a kind person , it shows when you get emotional about the suffering of other people.
In my 50’s and never understood the true level of narcissism. Wa sin a relationship for many years and when I started to question his behaviour is when I found Richard’s platform. I learnt so much and walked away as he advised. Thankyou Richard. 🙏 @liam brilliant guests as always 🙏
So heart-breaking. But we must always remember the kindest, strongest people that help others, what we call light workers, seem to rise from the worst conditions. Carry a heavy burden. It is a pattern I’ve long observed. And though it seems so unjust, how can we hope to understand the wisdom of God 🙏❤️ Richard has done so much for so many people. I hope that brings him solace and peace as he has to so many others. I agree with Richard about good and evil. As a former atheist :) But even then I felt it.
Brilliant interview and good questons asked, Liam! Richard is a legend, someone who has been through hell as a child and now helping others, not only with an academic background, but he's been a victim and gone through the same horrors with people he's helping.
Richard - I started watching you years ago, possibly before spartan when you and another no-nonsense brit were making self defense videos. I worked security at the time and you gents were most helpful. I wish I knew the other guy’s name. He did a legendary seminar in a gym with a bunch of police cadets(?) that was once on RUclips then disappeared (torque is indeed everything). Anyway, I get from you today on covert narcissism what I got from you back then re self defense: no bullshit practical knowledge to protect myself. I am so sorry to hear what happened to you, and very grateful to have known you through your videos. I can’t say how much healing and understanding I owe to your own strength and experience, but it’s more than a little. Thank you. In case it’s not apparent, today you mean a great deal to a great many people. Well done. Love and hope to you, brother.
I found you years ago, and you articulated and clarified a foggy sense of "i think there's something wrong with me," from as early as I can remember. I came to understand, finally, that I could have boundaries. I didn't know that. You really helped me wade through the muck, and finally climb out the other side. Thank you. Your insights are brilliantly articulated, so clarity can shine light on this darkness .
Wow, the bucket, it said it all . The resentment that Richard talks about is so moving and sad, and hits home. What Richard talks about here is so unbelievably sad and difficult !! What you guys talk about with regards to projection is so valuable. Richards honesty and bravery is off the scale !! Richard is so calm in sharing with us this devastating experience. Great talk guys. Thank you so much Liam / Richard !
One of the most interesting interviews I've ever seen on RUclips relating to this subject. Absolutely nailed it! Explained so eloquently, if you lived this you'll relate to everything Richard said. Loved this, thank you.
A fantastic discussion. Real, honest and brave. I 100% agree it's no contact. There is no way forward with a narcissist. Any interaction is a compromise with your soul.
This is one of the most fascinating, informative, intelligent, intellectual, and important conversations I've heard in a long time. Streets ahead of anything our middle class, Oxbridge educated betters, who are currently beavering away to silence, criminalize and replace us, could muster. As an old stock native Londoner with what the establishment see as a disqualifying accent, history of addiction and fisticuffs; possibly worse than Tommy and Monsieur Grannon combined. I know that people like us are the least racist among us and often the most insightful, well meaning and intelligent. From Thailand via County Kilburn, I endorse this podcast. Mustard
I’m from an Irish Catholic background in Liverpool centre- some of the most honest people I’ve met have been from there but survival was tough 😮 speaking as one who has lived all over the world so have perspective ❤ I would resonate with the unbelievable ancestral patterns of feudalistic and class struggle
I volunteered in a classroom and one boy was late most days and the teacher made him, aged 5 , stand up in front of the whole class to embarrass him about being late ..his parents were both heroin addicts.
Richard total respect you have helped so many people you don’t even realise how inspiring you are through your experiences to help others to save a life is divine where your pain is next to it is your purpose the most humanitarian act another human can do ❤
Thank you for mentioning the love songs being more about trauma bonds! I've often spoken about lyrics in songs and how they affect the mind negatively. 😮
Thank you for being real - two years of utter madness and I still don’t know my arse from my elbow - I agree I’m addicted and in his absence I’m both relieved and bereft - ok for an hour or two - how true is that. It’s sad for all concerned. Is there any help NPD - for true recovery - I know Sam Vaknin says there is ???? Cheers Richard
Powerful interview...the questions and the responses were both illuminating. I learned a great deal. The vulnerability and authenticity demonstrated here is a Masterclass in masculine vulnerability and redemption.
Yet another fantastic interview Liam 👍🏼 Richard is an incredible man - what a story. And how fascinating his breakdown of narcissism in clear terms. He nailed it. Superb work!
YESSSS!! 🙌🏻 This is literally THE perfect interview! Richard has helped me no end over the past few years! Absolutely incredible guy! Thank you so much for doing this Liam! I'll definitely be watching it later! 🙌🏻🖤
tuffsy please read this, ive watched your podcast from the beginning, i just want you to know you have come leaps and bounds and your skills evolve with each interview. you are a proper proper geezer, of the highest order in my opinion, and because you know that is true, you dont hide yourself and you share your self with the world, you talk to people with curiosity and respect, you create things and accomplish goals and you respect all while fearing (i imagine) very few. authentic people of that caliber are so rare and deserve big big respect. good luck with all your endeavors & thanks for the podcast!
Hi Richard. MASTERFUL! This is the 1st time I fully understand everything you are saying. I have been thru you 1st Matrix class (don't remember the exact title). I didn't get much out of it. That might've been my fault. It was all so depressing and confusing. It's as if there are no pat answers to avoiding these personalities. If I hear you, we have to be clear within ourselves who we are and what's important to us. We will have to look within not outside of ourselves. Thanks Richard. This was riveting and the time flew by.
Great candid interview/therapy chat, shared it with my friends who recommended RG to me for my rehab. Sorry life had an atrocious start for you both and glad we have these diamond versions of you to care for us
Boys, by far the best interview ive seen yet. Thank you for your transparency, vulnerability, drive & passion to speak your truth with the best intentions of helping others 🙌🪷 Richard i sincerely hope that when you discover the person that is truly ment for you i hope that you are met with divine femininity, acceptance, compassion, consistency, safety & unconditional love ❤ for you deserve it all Sending all of my gratitude to you guys 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
Wow I’ve only just discovered Richard watching this , what an amazing human , very intelligent and a cool dude , very interesting guy and I want to hear more from him , thanks 👍
I found this hard to watch Liam, hit home on a lot levels. Very important to understand narcissists to avoid at all costs. Great podcast Thank you Liam and Richard 🙏
THANK YOU SOOOO MUCH, Richard, for sharing your story and putting yourself out there, not easy... I've listened to a LOT of narc therapies over the past 10 yrs when my entire life imploded with the realization of what my narc mother painted our lives to be - a LOT of abuse - very similar story. I could sense from the first time I've heard you, that only a person that's personally been through it can fully comprehend the extent of it and REACH us. Your words became my light in this horrible darkness. I am eternally thankful for you.
go on then Richard, give us the tea.... most likely about to say things that will cause some of us to have 'deja vu' lol - found you in 2016; I've sent countless people your way when I tell them you saved me from myself. can't put a price on that and forever grateful... Peace from Ontario
Hello Liam and Richard! Thank you for conducting such a fantastic interview. Richard, your ability to continually astonish me, along with the depth of your personal story, serves as a profound inspiration and a vital lesson in personal growth and evolution, regardless of one's past. Your remarkable journey leaves me speechless! Liam, I wasn't aware of you previously, but you seem like such an empathetic individual, and I can't help but smile at your bursts of laughter - it's something I also do. Your discussion on the Woke movement was intriguing. I must clarify that I am not deeply knowledgeable about the Woke movement, but I am not entirely unaware of it either. Your commentary evoked thoughts of the witch hunts. The Woke movement began with a noble idea, highlighting numerous issues that required change. However, as often happens, this noble idea became distorted. It makes me think of the teachings of various prophets, for instance, Jesus' teachings. Jesus advocated for non-violence and forgiveness, teaching to "love thy neighbor" and to "forgive seventy times seven," and he professed that "the kingdom of God is within you." Then the Catholic Church emerged, and suddenly there were grand churches and priests who insisted on their guidance to be deemed worthy in God's eyes, all in Jesus' name. And thus began the literal witch hunts. Now how the hell did that happen? The realization that struck me was that pure ideas are often introduced and then twisted to such an extent that they become more detrimental than the issues they were meant to address. Does this resonate with you? Once more, thank you for an incredible two hours.
Guys, the vulnerability, honesty and authenticity of this dialogue was truly captivating. The ownership of your own experiences and being able to talk about them in such a calm manner was really inspiring. Very well done and thank you.
Very valuable. I realize it takes something to lay all this history out, finally, but i think this will make a significant difference for a LOT of people. I first ran into Grannon when he had a few shows with Kris Gotinez, who is totally open about the abuse she's dealt with, but is playing more of an ER role, often in the world of abuse recovery. Listening to this interview really helps to grasp how what Grannon has made into models and abstract concepts had a visceral origin. I appreciate his model/terms: 'introject', et al. Thank you Tuffs, thank you Grannon for getting SO real, here.
Hi liam, I stumbled upon your channel today because I saw that Richard was a guest and I have been following his channel. I never realized that he had been through a very similar childhood experience as me, and found this quite triggering but couldn't stop watching. Im 56 and have been carrying the same trauma all my life, During my life I have shared my past with certain friends and people i have come into contact with, but maybe have over shared at times because my trauma kept spilling out at times. I have never been able to have a successful relationship during my life so far because I have attracted a certain type of guy. I have never really been comfortable with my sexuality living as a gay man and have come to the conclusion that I was never really gay but have been seeking validation of another man because it was the only kind of affection I was ever shown from my father. I have never had any kind of therapy in my life and at this point in my life have turned my back on my sexuality and relationships.
Thank you for this Liam and Richard. Y’all are brave to talk about this. It will help many people. There is so much shame around these topics. Sharing helps us overcome shame.
Thank you Richard for all you have done . I recall the guy in a vest, sat on a couch, in Malaysia, chatting on a vid. Your information over the yrs, has made an incredible difference.
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OUTSTANDING choice as always mate!!! another great thought provoking and engrossing pod smashing it mate!!!!
@@LiamTuffs And thank the both of you for sharing such a imo beautiful conversation ❤️
Thank you Liam, have been following Richie since 2012. For 20 yrs prior then i had been in therapy and put on 13 different psyche meds in extreme doses... never worked or helped me at all. Back then no one talked about narcissistic abuse. Diagnosed with PTSD.. other labels.. my psyche Dr said i was an enigma..
Had been med free 8 months when i found Richie on you tube. At last .... the missing piece that put all the pieces of my life together. Narc mom, rageaholic dad ... beat me.
@73 it's been a long hard journey in my healing. Infinite gratitude to Richie for his heart and caring to help survivors of narc abuse. Thank you too Liam ❤️
Liked (and subscribed after he sent the email and mentioned you)... Thank you, Liam! So happy to see two Real Men sharing vulnerable life experiences with each other and us, the audience... KEEP being the Truthteller... 🎉🎉🎉
Bloody hell, Liam. The first of your casts/programmes that I've watched all the way through (not down to you or your content: I have CPTSD and issues abround concentration). I watched this in three 'installments'. Both of you were a pleasure to listen to. I've never seen anything like it. Thank you both.
You guys..... 70 year old woman here who has experienced similiar trauma. I am so impressed by your bravery and openness. Truly grateful. Thank you.
Same.
Richard is amazing...
Bless him
His bravery
His masculinity
His strength
His humour
His intelligence
His calmness
His soul ❤
@jenniferthomas
Amen to that❤️🥰❤️
I hope you see this. Please can I ask I'm 39, you're 70 does it get any easier? I was 8 years old when my life was ruined. Every single day, I struggle, u keep being told to let it go.. but how? 😢 thank you if you see this l.
@@tanz909 I hear you. It took me many years to be able to completely drop the negative people with no guilt. I learned the difference. Now I only surround myself with the good ones. They are few and I spend much time alone but I'm OK with that. We are here to learn these things. You are learning. Your memories don't go away. There is no magic. But it does get easier, though challenges of one kind or another, don't stop. That is the nature of life. You are learning how to recognise the people with heart and how to completely dismiss those without heart. Be very good to yourself.
Wisdom + courage + integrity + cheeky humour = Richard ❤
I survived 10 years of CSA. They were never convicted… I never saw that justice. I joined the military and left for Iraq at 18,19, & 20. I never heard anyone else acknowledge that in combat, we have no problems lockin it down and doing the job. But when it comes to everyday, interpersonal relationships, I definitely had trouble saying no and became a target for a covert narcissist. I’ve been single for 12 years not just because of my ex husband but also, I see it now. After years of therapy, I see the signs. Quickly. I’d rather be single FOREVER, or legit deployed overseas, than to be stuck in that hell ever again.
The amount of grit it takes for people to talk about their trauma from CSA is not a cake walk. I’ve never heard men do it. Never heard a man tell his story. Thank you both. So goddamn much, 🥺🙏
Richard, you are my fking hero. You are literally making the world a better place every single day. The difference between you and other Narc awareness people is that you are propper clear and concise and no BS. Straight to the point. I'm so greatfull to have found you.
Yes, I fully agree. Those who had been bitten skip the preface part and go straight to the core of the issue to save time for others.
Ditto-id be fcked without RG❤
Agree it's just torture being found out. Especially by his view on being shit. That's what abuse dies to the human brain.
Hes mine too, and Tufts@@mac-ju5ot
Richard, 8 years ago your guidance gave me the strength to get out of a horrific relationship. Been a follower ever since. Love you man. ❤
Same here 5yr ago left a Narc.
Same here. Back in 2013 I had 3 sessions of NLP whilst you were in Malaysia. Changed my life. Thank you so much. Still follow you today. You also posted a poem I wrote on your fb page. So sorry you went through that as a child. So brave ❤🙏
Liam Tuffs - Respect to you. From my perspective, it seems like Richard Grannon was really comfortable with you and being in your studio. You did an admirable job with this interview and in your own relating and vulnerability. Thank you for sharing your gift with the world.
So true ❤
Absolutely
Raw, real, human. These are the conversations that matter. Thank you!
I can't fathom the guts it takes to put this out there on a rotten platform just so that the few ones who need to hear it get the message across. Thank you for all the work you've done and made available and affordable from the start. You have turned my life around and it debilitates me to think that you've done so much for me without even knowing it. This executive function of yours my man... You're fkn great. You're up there on the micro list of people I'll forever honour for offering me a proper life. Thank you is just not enough.
Some of the Biggest and Brightest Hearts I have ever encountered in my life (unfortunately) come from some of the most horrendous experiences we can think of... Huge Hugs and Blessings to you, Richard! I don't know if you realise how much Good you are doing in the World right now... PLEASE take care! ❤❤❤
'Brightest hearts'.. xxx
The BEST interview of Richard and his life in painful raw vulnerable detail, I have ever seen. Thank you both. God bless. 🇬🇧🙏🏽🏴 prayers for Tommy
I knew Richard had insights that only someone would have who has had their sense of self as a child burnt to the ground, renounced, exiled in the toxic system. Richard you are an amazing human victory over abuse. ❤
Best interview of Richard Grannon EVER! Thank you so much! I F’ing loved it! ♥️
... "this is a side of Life that some people can't even imagine to be real"... 😢😢😢... You are absolutely right... 💔💔💔
One word: Respect🧡
Dear Richard, you may not read this but I have been following you for many yeas, I knew there was abused in your life, but not of this magnitude, coming from a very dysfunctional family, with two alcoholics parents I can relate a lot to your past, I wanted to thank you for your vulnerability, your strength, openness and to tell you that I'm so great full for people like you in this world, all blessings for you Dear brother
Richard describes the traits of the covert narc so well it actually reignites those inner feelings of experiencing/living it. He is absolutley brilliant! May he continue to help people understand, recover and learn how to avoid these putried individuals. Thank you.
Now THAT is a good teacher! I taught for 34 years. I hear Richard 100%!! The noise! The lack of understanding of what the child comes to school with... I felt exactly how Richard felt and finally could not take it anymore.
Thank you for having the wisdom to see it, 🙏💕
Thank you Richard for your vulnerability. So many people identify with you in all different ways.
love you Richard. I no longer watch your narcissism content (yay!), but I love seeing you interviewed. thank you for helping me recover.
I’m so sorry Richard. How powerful to bring it into the light and tell the facts. Much love mate
God bless you Richard for sharing your painful story. Your honesty and strength💪will help a lot of people survive their own pain and trauma. Thank you! 🙏😇💖
Absolutely loved this interview 🙌🏼 it felt so authentic! I’ve listened to Richard over the years on & off and I had to stop listening to people bang on about narcissistic abuse because along with dealing with it, educating yourself on it is exhausting in itself. I thought I just have to accept it, and that’s that. But something always niggled at me, “why is my mother like this with me? Just WHY?” & when Richard said they need YOU to be NOTHING feel nothing etc etc , they just play the “power” game ! Omg Yes it’s so true!!, so sad but true & my mother is coming 82 & my god it gets worse with age! But I finally know now. 🤷🏻♀️ I’ll always be thankful for Richard & his videos 🖤 and THANK YOU for this interview!!
Thank you both for sharing with such honesty . Childhood abuse stays with you throughout your life but we can heal the inner child through therapy. Blessings to you both ❤
Fascinating interview. Richard Grannon has brought me through a nightmare and gave me an ⚓️ anchorpoint from which I have since literally turned my life around. I am eternally grateful to him and want to give that child inside of him a deep warm loving hug from the heart ❤️ little did he know how his trauma would help so many. He's incredibly brave 🎉
Such a lovely way to put it.. "to give that child within him a deep, warm hug" . We all so need that and we should think of others in that way too. Thank you for that thought, 🙏💕
Recently I’ve strangely missed Richard, he’s got me through a lot. He’s Educated, prepared, helped me (and many) towards finding reality, a healthy reality. I enjoyed tentacle croissant because, let’s face it and upon his wish….. he wants us to move away from being consumed by narcissism and move on. Guy has been a huge and vital part of mine and many lives and he’s loved and valued as I’m sure he knows. He’s declared “I’m a talking head, I’m not your friend” which he’s not, but he’s certainly cherished by many for his work. Seeing him vulnerable and feeling his feelings and sharing incredibly hard trauma has no doubt made people more grateful and appreciative of him. What a treasure of a man, thanks for sharing this insight. Fabulous, humbling. As always, thank you ❤
After 7 years of severe abuse by narc I found among many ps. advisors You - soft, warm, lovely, effective. Thank You!
One of the Worse things I've ever experienced, is dealing with a narcisist.
Thank you for sharing your story Richard, huge gratitude and much love as always, great host Liam, subscribed.
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I very rarely watch a podcast until the end, but this episode has really engrossed me. It takes guts for a guest to be so honest and open about sexual abuse, so thank you for sharing such painful memories.
I admire Richard's growth and maturity so much. He is a great role model--especially for men; and he gives hope for those who want a relationship with a man. I love how he brought up "honor" in a recent video. I am a big believer in "honor" and desire to be in relationship with someone who I am honored to be with, vice versa.
Richard: Please do an extensive video on setting standards and having principles with self and acceptable partner. Like how you talked about stating what is acceptable and what is not, and if partner doesn't agree with (let alone, respect) that, leave. In a prior video, you had given the metaphoric example of eating vanilla ice cream being unacceptable. Also, talking about "liking" others' photos isn't appropriate in a committed relationship.
These type of principles and standards you have for yourself and for who you will be with, even though your friends don't relate or agree, are what gave me so much hope that my person exists.
1:23:00 - 1:24:48 - Richard on setting standards and expectations for an intimate relationship
Vanilla ice cream?
@@Chris-qn6pr Vanilla ice cream analogy - I found it! Richard's video titled "Can A Narcissist Change? Live Q and A" from May 5, 2024; Time stamp 31:18
@@coach_amy thanks for that. I can see he was using a trivial example for illustrative purposes. The point being, you get to choose your own boundaries - whether they seem reasonable by other people’s standards or not.
Chris - yes, exactly (a "safe" example as he called it) . My other comment in this thread points to the time stamp with Richard saying something similar in this video as well. (I wrote my original comment before this video premiered)
I Wish more men would have conversations openly like this it would then make it easier for others to talk about it. So many waiting lists and not enough support.
I found Richard years ago on you tube whilst looking for answers after a particularly traumatic relationship. He really helped me
Wow that was the best. Massive respect Richard. I've watched you since 2014, you educated me & helped me escape an 18 year narcissistic relationship. I will forever be grateful 🙏. Liam, first time watcher, new sub, thank you. Great interview 👍
Liam, first time seeing any of your content and I must say you are an excellent interlocutor and the sound and video quality is fantastic. You didn’t interrupt, or speak over your guest and there was such a feeling of ease in your back and forth. You’re 100% built for doing this kind of work.
I came across Richard many years ago when I developed an interest in gaining more knowledge on narcissism, which eventually tailed off. As a long time follower of Ed Dutton, I was extremely happy that Richard and him had teamed up and I could continue watching Richard on a more personal basis that’s not primarily based on narcissism. He’s a sound guy with a very likeable personality.
It’s always harrowing to hear about child abuse and my heart goes out to you also in your journey to recovery.
It’s admirable that whilst navigating your way through life, you both reveal your most vulnerable selves in the hopes of helping others, which I’m sure many people’s lives have been touched along the way.
Although a hard listen at times based on the topic of conversation, it was nonetheless an excellent conversation so thank you both for your time.
Much love to you both ❤
Liam is the best interviewer for the raw truth, an excellent interlocutor as you said ❤
@@RICHARDGRANNON most certainly. Have a safe trip Saturday for the conference 💕
Great interview. Richard has helped me so much, in many ways. Understanding and accepting what he says about Narcs is like getting out of a prison.
Without doubt the best interview I have seen on ANY channel! Came accross Richard a few years ago, but it’s been great seeing him on other platforms talking every day things. Well done Liam! Great job mate! 👍🏼
... and the level of Deep-Deep Grief we go through when we realise how let-down and neglected and unloved, unseen, unaccepted we've been for so long in our childhoods, and then through the life experiences these formative years set us up for, is excruciating... We grieve for our little souls that we were, we grieve for what we ALL should have been given and we were not (and I'm NOT referring here to stuff!), we're grieving for the damage that has been done and cannot be undone, but also, when we get To The Other Side, we are also grieving for the way those that "damaged" us have been damaged themselves... So they couldn't give us what they Didn't Have... It's NOT excusing their behaviour, it's just an attempt at understanding how "f... ked up" this world can be...No child deserves to live this way... IT ENDS WITH US!!! 💔💔💔!
Richard I am so happy to see you are getting better ! You are such a kind person , it shows when you get emotional about the suffering of other people.
So important that men come forward and talk about this. This is bravery at it's best! Thank you both for a magnificent conversation. ❤️❤️❤️
In my 50’s and never understood the true level of narcissism. Wa sin a relationship for many years and when I started to question his behaviour is when I found Richard’s platform. I learnt so much and walked away as he advised. Thankyou Richard. 🙏 @liam brilliant guests as always 🙏
So heart-breaking. But we must always remember the kindest, strongest people that help others, what we call light workers, seem to rise from the worst conditions. Carry a heavy burden. It is a pattern I’ve long observed. And though it seems so unjust, how can we hope to understand the wisdom of God 🙏❤️
Richard has done so much for so many people. I hope that brings him solace and peace as he has to so many others.
I agree with Richard about good and evil. As a former atheist :) But even then I felt it.
Brilliant interview and good questons asked, Liam! Richard is a legend, someone who has been through hell as a child and now helping others, not only with an academic background, but he's been a victim and gone through the same horrors with people he's helping.
Richard - I started watching you years ago, possibly before spartan when you and another no-nonsense brit were making self defense videos. I worked security at the time and you gents were most helpful. I wish I knew the other guy’s name. He did a legendary seminar in a gym with a bunch of police cadets(?) that was once on RUclips then disappeared (torque is indeed everything).
Anyway, I get from you today on covert narcissism what I got from you back then re self defense: no bullshit practical knowledge to protect myself.
I am so sorry to hear what happened to you, and very grateful to have known you through your videos. I can’t say how much healing and understanding I owe to your own strength and experience, but it’s more than a little. Thank you. In case it’s not apparent, today you mean a great deal to a great many people. Well done. Love and hope to you, brother.
Thanks mate 🙏
bosh nice comment
Thank you for your honesty sharing from your life. Heartbreaking to listen too and you give others a voice to speak up ❤❤❤❤
What a strong pod. You both gents are a strength. Bless you brothers
Top Guy Richard Grannon, met him many moons ago at a Martial Arts seminar. . .he knows his stuff. .
I found you years ago, and you articulated and clarified a foggy sense of "i think there's something wrong with me," from as early as I can remember. I came to understand, finally, that I could have boundaries. I didn't know that. You really helped me wade through the muck, and finally climb out the other side. Thank you. Your insights are brilliantly articulated, so clarity can shine light on this darkness .
Liam Richard my fellow suvivors I have the upmost respect fo you both keep fighting boys
Thank you, Richard, for sharing your story.
Wow, the bucket, it said it all . The resentment that Richard talks about is so moving and sad, and hits home. What Richard talks about here is so unbelievably sad and difficult !! What you guys talk about with regards to projection is so valuable. Richards honesty and bravery is off the scale !! Richard is so calm in sharing with us this devastating experience. Great talk guys. Thank you so much Liam / Richard !
One of the most interesting interviews I've ever seen on RUclips relating to this subject. Absolutely nailed it! Explained so eloquently, if you lived this you'll relate to everything Richard said.
Loved this, thank you.
Been listening to Richard for years. You’re a great man. ❤ Brilliantly open honest and articulate to a fault.
One of your best podcasts so far, absolutely invested and engaged throughout the interview, thanks Liam and Richard 🙏
A fantastic discussion. Real, honest and brave. I 100% agree it's no contact. There is no way forward with a narcissist. Any interaction is a compromise with your soul.
This podcast provoked so many emotions. Best interview yet ! . The honesty and humour ❤. Fantastic. Love you both xx
This is so brave and truly compelling - well done Richard for being willing to talk about all this.
The end goal is making everyone as miserabel as they are so they won't feel as inadequate
This is one of the most fascinating, informative, intelligent, intellectual, and important conversations I've heard in a long time. Streets ahead of anything our middle class, Oxbridge educated betters, who are currently beavering away to silence, criminalize and replace us, could muster. As an old stock native Londoner with what the establishment see as a disqualifying accent, history of addiction and fisticuffs; possibly worse than Tommy and Monsieur Grannon combined. I know that people like us are the least racist among us and often the most insightful, well meaning and intelligent. From Thailand via County Kilburn, I endorse this podcast. Mustard
Richard, you are so right. How has our country fallen so far?
I’m from an Irish Catholic background in Liverpool centre- some of the most honest people I’ve met have been from there but survival was tough 😮 speaking as one who has lived all over the world so have perspective ❤ I would resonate with the unbelievable ancestral patterns of feudalistic and class struggle
I volunteered in a classroom and one boy was late most days and the teacher made him, aged 5 , stand up in front of the whole class to embarrass him about being late ..his parents were both heroin addicts.
Horrific. Bless him.
That is so sad. Poor little boy😢
Richard total respect you have helped so many people you don’t even realise how inspiring you are through your experiences to help others to save a life is divine
where your pain is next to it is your purpose
the most humanitarian act another human can do ❤
Absolutely brilliant interview! Liam you asked all the right questions it was so raw! Love Richard too
Thank you for mentioning the love songs being more about trauma bonds! I've often spoken about lyrics in songs and how they affect the mind negatively. 😮
Thank you for being real - two years of utter madness and I still don’t know my arse from my elbow - I agree I’m addicted and in his absence I’m both relieved and bereft - ok for an hour or two - how true is that. It’s sad for all concerned. Is there any help NPD - for true recovery - I know Sam Vaknin says there is ???? Cheers Richard
Superb interview! One of the most real and authentic interviews I've seen in a very long time.
Subscribed mate.
Powerful interview...the questions and the responses were both illuminating. I learned a great deal. The vulnerability and authenticity demonstrated here is a Masterclass in masculine vulnerability and redemption.
Yet another fantastic interview Liam 👍🏼
Richard is an incredible man - what a story. And how fascinating his breakdown of narcissism in clear terms. He nailed it.
Superb work!
Seconded ☝️
YESSSS!! 🙌🏻 This is literally THE perfect interview! Richard has helped me no end over the past few years! Absolutely incredible guy! Thank you so much for doing this Liam! I'll definitely be watching it later! 🙌🏻🖤
tuffsy please read this, ive watched your podcast from the beginning, i just want you to know you have come leaps and bounds and your skills evolve with each interview. you are a proper proper geezer, of the highest order in my opinion, and because you know that is true, you dont hide yourself and you share your self with the world, you talk to people with curiosity and respect, you create things and accomplish goals and you respect all while fearing (i imagine) very few. authentic people of that caliber are so rare and deserve big big respect. good luck with all your endeavors & thanks for the podcast!
Hi Richard. MASTERFUL! This is the 1st time I fully understand everything you are saying. I have been thru you 1st Matrix class (don't remember the exact title). I didn't get much out of it. That might've been my fault. It was all so depressing and confusing. It's as if there are no pat answers to avoiding these personalities. If I hear you, we have to be clear within ourselves who we are and what's important to us. We will have to look within not outside of ourselves. Thanks Richard. This was riveting and the time flew by.
this will help so many men you're an absolute hero
richard i had a similar childhood experience it feels relieving to hear someone else story and not feel isolated
Great candid interview/therapy chat, shared it with my friends who recommended RG to me for my rehab. Sorry life had an atrocious start for you both and glad we have these diamond versions of you to care for us
I havent heard anyone speak this truth for a long time like Richard has just spoke ! Brilliant and honest this the way we need to go 😊
Boys, by far the best interview ive seen yet. Thank you for your transparency, vulnerability, drive & passion to speak your truth with the best intentions of helping others 🙌🪷
Richard i sincerely hope that when you discover the person that is truly ment for you i hope that you are met with divine femininity, acceptance, compassion, consistency, safety & unconditional love ❤ for you deserve it all
Sending all of my gratitude to you guys 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
Wow I’ve only just discovered Richard watching this , what an amazing human , very intelligent and a cool dude , very interesting guy and I want to hear more from him , thanks 👍
I found this hard to watch Liam, hit home on a lot levels.
Very important to understand narcissists to avoid at all costs.
Great podcast
Thank you Liam and Richard 🙏
THANK YOU SOOOO MUCH, Richard, for sharing your story and putting yourself out there, not easy... I've listened to a LOT of narc therapies over the past 10 yrs when my entire life imploded with the realization of what my narc mother painted our lives to be - a LOT of abuse - very similar story. I could sense from the first time I've heard you, that only a person that's personally been through it can fully comprehend the extent of it and REACH us. Your words became my light in this horrible darkness. I am eternally thankful for you.
Amazing interview with two amazing men. Thank you both for everything you do...
go on then Richard, give us the tea.... most likely about to say things that will cause some of us to have 'deja vu' lol - found you in 2016; I've sent countless people your way when I tell them you saved me from myself. can't put a price on that and forever grateful... Peace from Ontario
Could have listened to another 2 hours of this , thank you both for your insights
Been watching Richard for many years,and amazing man,thank you.
I’m a big Richard Grannon fan and now I’m a Liam Tuffs fan too, real men talking about real stuff, thank you 🙏
Liam this is your best Podcast.
Two solid, kind, amazing men, talking about CSA, and its awful mind bending effects🙏
Hello Liam and Richard! Thank you for conducting such a fantastic interview. Richard, your ability to continually astonish me, along with the depth of your personal story, serves as a profound inspiration and a vital lesson in personal growth and evolution, regardless of one's past. Your remarkable journey leaves me speechless!
Liam, I wasn't aware of you previously, but you seem like such an empathetic individual, and I can't help but smile at your bursts of laughter - it's something I also do.
Your discussion on the Woke movement was intriguing. I must clarify that I am not deeply knowledgeable about the Woke movement, but I am not entirely unaware of it either.
Your commentary evoked thoughts of the witch hunts. The Woke movement began with a noble idea, highlighting numerous issues that required change. However, as often happens, this noble idea became distorted. It makes me think of the teachings of various prophets, for instance, Jesus' teachings. Jesus advocated for non-violence and forgiveness, teaching to "love thy neighbor" and to "forgive seventy times seven," and he professed that "the kingdom of God is within you." Then the Catholic Church emerged, and suddenly there were grand churches and priests who insisted on their guidance to be deemed worthy in God's eyes, all in Jesus' name. And thus began the literal witch hunts. Now how the hell did that happen?
The realization that struck me was that pure ideas are often introduced and then twisted to such an extent that they become more detrimental than the issues they were meant to address. Does this resonate with you?
Once more, thank you for an incredible two hours.
God bless you, Uncle Richard 💓
One of the best pod casts I’ve ever seen. ❤️❤️ Liam Tommy Richard love you guys
Guys, the vulnerability, honesty and authenticity of this dialogue was truly captivating. The ownership of your own experiences and being able to talk about them in such a calm manner was really inspiring. Very well done and thank you.
Liam and Tommy omg you both are so strong and inspirational x
Very valuable. I realize it takes something to lay all this history out, finally, but i think this will make a significant difference for a LOT of people.
I first ran into Grannon when he had a few shows with Kris Gotinez, who is totally open about the abuse she's dealt with, but is playing more of an ER role, often in the world of abuse recovery. Listening to this interview really helps to grasp how what Grannon has made into models and abstract concepts had a visceral origin. I appreciate his model/terms: 'introject', et al.
Thank you Tuffs, thank you Grannon for getting SO real, here.
Amazing interview-thank you for sharing so vulnerably
Hi liam, I stumbled upon your channel today because I saw that Richard was a guest and I have been following his channel.
I never realized that he had been through a very similar childhood experience as me, and found this quite triggering but couldn't stop watching. Im 56 and have been carrying the same trauma all my life,
During my life I have shared my past with certain friends and people i have come into contact with, but maybe have over shared at times because my trauma kept spilling out at times. I have never been able to have a successful relationship during my life so far because I have attracted a certain type of guy. I have never really been comfortable with my sexuality living as a gay man and have come to the conclusion that I was never really gay but have been seeking validation of another man because it was the only kind of affection I was ever shown from my father. I have never had any kind of therapy in my life and at this point in my life have turned my back on my sexuality and relationships.
On reflection it appears that I'm attracted to narcissistic abusive men.😑
Respect. Another fantastic guest 😊
Thank you for this Liam and Richard. Y’all are brave to talk about this. It will help many people. There is so much shame around these topics. Sharing helps us overcome shame.
Love, love LOVE this interview! I've bookmarked it for rewatching. What a great guest! Thank you so much for sharing this, Liam.
Clever clever man. Listening to this has enlightened me to things i kind of knew before but these explanations just set it all in stone
Thank you Richard for all you have done . I recall the guy in a vest, sat on a couch, in Malaysia, chatting on a vid. Your information over the yrs, has made an incredible difference.
This was awesome. Couldn’t stop listening from start to finish 👏