I honestly am not saying this to promote myself, but I uploaded a story a while back called Fuck Oranges and for whatever reason this scene blends so well with it.
I used to work in marketing and I have to say the accuracy is a big part of why I love this series. Roderick's monologue here was like listening to one of my marketing professors.
The disbelief and horror on Dupin's face after that monologue was a great cherry on top of an awesome scene. Kudos to Bruce Greenwod and Carl Lumbly both.
Only and brilliant yet psychopathic callus and completely non empathic opportunist could possibly conceive of such rationale in their twisted psyche. Dupin's horror at this realization while hilarious is completely justified .😂
For those that don't know, this isn't just fiction. Monsanto actually did patent some genetically modified seeds and sued farmers when they were found growing on their land.
The truth is that the farmer (Percy Schmeiser) was actually straight up stealing the seeds though. Monsanto kept telling him to stop and he kept it up. They didn't just arbitrarily sue him. This is a story that gets more and more distorted over time.
@alecjones4676 No, he said it isn't his responsibility to control what seeds landed in his field and that it's his right to re-seed what has grown on his land.
@@kaingates Right but the point is that he didn't spend millions in R&D to develop those seeds, Monsanto did. They also explained the situation to him, gave him every chance to stop, yet he knowingly continued to plant and sell those crops. I'm not saying he's a bad guy, I'm just saying that Monsanto isn't either.
Midway through the series I thought, for Flanagan, this is second only to Hill House (love all the shows). Not comparing, just ranking in my opinion. By the end, The Fall of The House of Usher became one of my favourite shows. What a god damn series.
@@Mr_Mace I liked, good series, but it has some letdowns right in the middle. Starts really good, but from episode 3 until 7, the writting was a little down, and then the ending was MARVELOUS. To me, midnight mass is still he's most legendary work.
@@AlehGea yep, midnight mass for me too. I've rewatched it so many times and I get something new from it on every rewatch...and I still cry at Erin and Riley's monologues.
The subtle switch up on 'then you patent the seeds' is chilling. It's as though what he's talking about stops being a fun little metaphor, and everything suddenly becomes real.
@@ogdenjThe real life scenario involves Monsanto patenting soy beans that were genetically engineered to be resistant to RoundUp weed killer. The seeds got mixed with natural ones, and farmers unknowingly planted the patented seeds. Monsanto then sued everyone for patent infringement.
@@xeoh85Better to check the seeds you are using then. The wrong conclusion idiots draw from this fiasco is that somehow patenting seeds is wrong. No, the actual lesson is farming is done by uneducated rubes who don't understand technology, and need serious incentive structure if we have to sustain. We can no longer indulge in ivory towers in AC, leaving most important jobs to local joe's just because it requires getting your hands dirty
Honestly what makes this better is that this feels less like a monologue and more like him just giving away a step by step plan that he had stashed away to use for later
He was able to so effortlessly give that "monologue" because over the years, he has mastered the art of exploitation, underhanded business tactics, and monopoly. It just shows what a ruthless businessman he has become; probably a lot in in part of learning from his sister, since shes the real genius.
This was a full description of what the WEF, world leaders and pharmaceutical companies did with Covid, and it is what they will do with our food next!
He just described the diamond market, it's so frustrating to see a goddamned diamond ring priced at 5k while knowing those things are incredibly common
For real! When I was a little kid, I asked my dad what was the rarest gem thinking he was going to say diamonds and he was like "lol, no. Diamonds aren't that rare but they're expensive." His lecture on the diamond market was my first lesson on how marketing works.
Ironically there is actually high demand for diamonds and shortish supply as china and India are starting to buy them now. Granted, I still think diamonds are just a waste of money.
@@EJD339 Well, they can be created in laboratories and if there's a thing that both China and India have is the money to invest in techonology to supply the interests of their nation.
And when somebody makes synthetic lemons, that are purer and still cheaper than the natural ones, you tell everyone that only your lemons are the real thing.
The two levels of increasing "businessman" in Roderick during the speech is amazing. 1:02 - He's made his point, but he realizes how easily he can do all of this insane media craze over lemons and gives more examples. 1:34 - "I've made my point long ago, but this is how I truly go above and beyond with my greed" and gets serious over it.
This is a perfect illustration of establishing character through dialogue. It tells us everything about his values and his view of the world in general. The late edition of making lemon look like “tits“ adds, just a touch of the profane that reveals kind of creepy deviance within his business savvy. That, and the willingness to sue lemon farmers for copyright infringement. I bet he wouldn’t even enjoy the lemonade.
This and the sister's monologue at the end of the last episode are 2 of the best runs of lines I've ever seen, and I've been a film/screen fan for nearly 50 years. No doubt the writing plays a huge role, but the DELIVERY was just outstanding on both counts.
I honestly loves the twin. They are amazing, rising from proverty to where they at. Both of them are honestly great actors, and shows the siblinghood and admiration and love they have for each other until old age. You can see how much Roddy loves meddy by he is willing to die when she is the one that asked him to overdose of the pills. How much Meddy loves his brother by sticking by his sides through all the trubulane of life.
One of the best critiques of late-stage capitalism in fiction since Succession. The scariest part is that the plan he is describing isn't exclusive to some "evil" corporate empires here and there: it's the standard practice of any large enterprise.
This and her statement about a certain someone (quote to follow) are some of my favorite biting remarks of the current state of American politics and policies. This whole thing was beautifully done. “Like I said to one of my clients, when I’m done, you can stand in the middle of Fifth Avenue and shoot somebody, and it won’t cost you a thing.”
Unequivocally the best scene in the entire series -- the wisdom in this 2 minute scene holds the sauce that is a hundred times more valuable than an MBA bundled with a four year college degree. I literally found this video by Google searching "the lemon speech usher" -- and epic Bruce Greenwood delivered it to absolute perfection. Thank you.
You do realize that Roderick Usher is the villain of the piece, right? Or did you perhaps watch this whole show and let the point sail right over your head? He's not spouting any "wisdom". It's unadulterated avarice, for which there are consequences.
There is an article that came out today I believe,about how bad the writing was, that the whole speech was out of touch.I couldn't disagree more. The way they shot it, and its right on his face and he's taking a saying we have all heard before, "when life gives you lemons...you make lemonade" . Turns it into a very simple point of view of from a man who's part of the machine, who explains how and what most of the The Uber Rich think,and have been doing to capitalism, The Country and The World for years. Fantastic scene. Mike Flannigan loves monologues and ke likked it.IMO
There's still people who like to believe capitalism is perfectly fair as they're the ones benefitting from it and it isn't like, well, as described above.
@@PauLtus_Bmaybe pure capitalism would be fine if there wasn’t for corruption, bribery, bad faith and cronyism. If people were more involved in legislation, and were able to watch out and see what’s really going on, maybe there will be more checks and balances to keep corruption from running rampant.
this was Emmy worthy.. I was frozen while he weaved this spell of how truly greed and love of money can transform and dominate a human being ... great script... great acting !
Those 2 speeches I have listened to on repeat. Our economy is so screwed up and those speeches capture how so perfectly. I love it so much. The worst thing? We watch that, are stunned, and then immediately hop on to the next episode/show. That’s exactly why nothing changes. We see the outcomes but we don’t care enough to do something about it
A beautifully crafted dialogue from "The Fall of the House of Usher" presents a satirical and exaggerated critique of modern capitalism and its mechanisms, as portrayed through the metaphor of lemons. Profit and the nature of consumerism and the ethical considerations of business practices. Or simply, "f'ing lemon!"
Mike Flanagan is off the scale talented. Midnight Mass blew me away, a masterclass in narrative and dramatic resolution of the entire series. Loved the Hauntings of... and am utterly gobsmacked with Usher...have rewatched the lemon scene half a dozen times. This is the "to be or not to be" soliloquy of our times. The people who churn out endless bland cookie cutter prequels and sequels are obliterated by talent like Mike's. Love his using the same ensemble cast (mostly) across his different stuff. Mike, I'm your No 1 Fan 💖💖💖
S.P.O.T. O.N. Phenomenal writing + acting I can’t imagine another writer/actor duo besides Flanagan & Greenwood for this. It’s perfect. Perfect down to the last minute detail.
I was in awe during this entire scene. I know alot of people don't like this writer but, he writes some of the deepest and meaningful stuff I've ever heard. Especially in Midnight Mass.
@@LordVodka313They think he's pretentious, his monologues don't have meaning or go on for too long and get boring. I entirely disagree. Midnight Mass has the most monologues out of any of his work and it's actually my favorite because of how thought provoking it is.
He’s the best writer in the biz. People either just don’t get it or just hate to hate. Personally I think he’s well aware of what he’s writing and is aware he may be a complete contradiction of his writings but that’s kinda what horror genre originally was. Holding up a mirror to the the truths of human nature that we try to avoid looking at. I absolutely love his work.
I like monologues in this but not Midnight Mass 😅 Midnight Mass did feel pretentious and crammed with word salad that has no meaning or focus, to me at least.
@@interestingusername306 No they do have meaning, but Flanagan does tend to go overboard over it at times when he's made the point 3 sentences back. And people think this criticism immediately means they hate the man, no, and I HATE THAT, in fact, I think Flanagan is the reason why my Halloween or the month of October is great, because he usually releases a series around this time, I love his works. But his long monologues are a double edged sword. People like it, but easily understandable why some people don't, and even more easily understandable why some people who do like it might think sometimes it's a bit much.
He'd also have to alter the meaning of "lemon" as it pertains to automobiles. Instead of it meaning broken it would have to be one that is desirable above all others.
If we take the flashback years into account, Roderick is at least 70 here. There's nothing scarier than an old man knowing about all these 2020s subjects/trends and taking advantage of it.
Inspiring, thought-provoking, funny ( the Kardashian part almost made me fall to the floor) and an overall great speech. One of the best monologues I have ever seen.
This is legit one of the best monologues ever written and Bruce Greenwood is mesmerizing with every single word he says. Holy shit, this show was incredible.
and to think he wasn’t originally cast for this and a bunch of the show had to be hastily reshot with him as Roderick! I can’t imagine the show without his performance
I watched my wife closely while she watched this scene. She was in absolute disbelief. It's such a great summary of incredibly manipulative and downright evil corporations are.
absolutely awesome ... am in the midst of watching and saw this scene .... and to get it across to people how incredible this telling is .. this scene ... 🙂
Bruce Greenwood's performance was the chef's kiss He's an underrated actor in my opinion but if I have to place him in a category of good actors then I'd place him among great names like Robert De Niro...
Without question Bruce Greenwoods AWARD winning performance of his entire career! And all the metaphors OMG, genius writing and performances all around.
Like how De Beers does with diamonds, they artificially choke the supply which increases it price. They went ham on the marketing with diamonds, saying how it's the only way you propose and all of that jazz.
Literally one of the best ways I’ve heard the truth put! loved the mini series one of my favorite parts in the show forsure! Fuckin real life spoken out loud genius!
And these lemons are Gluten-free... Gluten-free lemons cost more... because you know... they had to be processed to be free of Gluten... ;-) That look at the end is priceless....
I love how much this scene just epitomizes the bullshit in commercialism. Like I always wonder why marketing is such a respected profession when 9 times out of ten its lying to people that they NEED this bullshit product or worse, LYING to people that this product is safe and has its intended effects. You know who I consider a respectable profession? A plumber, a plumber gets their hands dirty, deals with your shit, cleans your toilet and makes a tidy profit helping people and they make lots of money and yet one of these professions are higher class than the other
True , but you also have to add that “lemons” aren’t controlled by one person or company. “Lemons” have competition. Capitalism is the ability for multiple companies to compete with one and another for the best quality possible at the cheapest possible- and whatever company can do this the best wins capitalism.
not just that, they seeds kill others crops so if you want to keep producing you need to start buying they seeds, they tried to do that in my country Peru introducing a new kind of potato but thanks God the government stop them to do that
Honestly, this show has been dropping a lot of "secrets" about how the rich and powerful navigate (and manipulate) this world. The show passes it off as grotesque exaggerations, but I'm not so sure anything is being exaggerated ...
I literally just watched this scene. I had to stop the episode so I could find it on RUclips and save it. I frickin' love this scene. How did Bruce Greenwood and the writers of this show not get Emmys, holy crap....
as a top-tier movie director (Ted Hecksey, look me up), a former real-estate mogul, and corporate leader, I can with 100% confidence confirm that this is how all of us corporate leaders think. Effing Lemon.
This scene is effing lemon
I have to say I’m very sad that we as a society haven’t managed to work this into our collective vernacular yet.
Can confirm is now a lemon 🍋
This entire show is effing lemon
I honestly am not saying this to promote myself, but I uploaded a story a while back called Fuck Oranges and for whatever reason this scene blends so well with it.
How?
I'm an advertiser, and I work in Marketing. And I can 100% say this is how corporate leaders think
I used to work in marketing and I have to say the accuracy is a big part of why I love this series. Roderick's monologue here was like listening to one of my marketing professors.
this is sick and makes the world go f*ck up
im in sales and i concur
I wish you all a path out of the capitalist hellscape -- a path that somehow still lets you get by OK.
Agreed and pretty genius but simple as well
The disbelief and horror on Dupin's face after that monologue was a great cherry on top of an awesome scene. Kudos to Bruce Greenwod and Carl Lumbly both.
Exactly!
I think I had the same expression on my face after watching this scene the first time.
*Lemon on Top
Only and brilliant yet psychopathic callus and completely non empathic opportunist could possibly conceive of such rationale in their twisted psyche. Dupin's horror at this realization while hilarious is completely justified .😂
You act as if those people dont exist daily. Thats how marketing and running countries work@@Christrulesall2
Now THIS is acting. No over the top facial gymnastics, no dramatic body language, no voice tricks. Such control and such natural delivery!
Bruce Greenwood is killing it. The younger DA also has beautiful speech when he visits him in his younger days that just floored me
Totally agree. I loathe the Streep school of histrionics!
Cheers from Melbourne 😁
Actin is not only this :)
Good lord. Calm down.
You might like The Sunset Limited
For those that don't know, this isn't just fiction. Monsanto actually did patent some genetically modified seeds and sued farmers when they were found growing on their land.
This was one of the reasons I found this scene so terrifying. Reality is the stuff of nightmares.
They did the exact same with diamonds.
The truth is that the farmer (Percy Schmeiser) was actually straight up stealing the seeds though. Monsanto kept telling him to stop and he kept it up. They didn't just arbitrarily sue him. This is a story that gets more and more distorted over time.
@alecjones4676 No, he said it isn't his responsibility to control what seeds landed in his field and that it's his right to re-seed what has grown on his land.
@@kaingates Right but the point is that he didn't spend millions in R&D to develop those seeds, Monsanto did. They also explained the situation to him, gave him every chance to stop, yet he knowingly continued to plant and sell those crops. I'm not saying he's a bad guy, I'm just saying that Monsanto isn't either.
Mike Flanagan,man, what a freaking writer.
He is, hands down, the most exciting horror filmmaker currently working!
Midway through the series I thought, for Flanagan, this is second only to Hill House (love all the shows). Not comparing, just ranking in my opinion. By the end, The Fall of The House of Usher became one of my favourite shows. What a god damn series.
@@Mr_Mace I liked, good series, but it has some letdowns right in the middle. Starts really good, but from episode 3 until 7, the writting was a little down, and then the ending was MARVELOUS.
To me, midnight mass is still he's most legendary work.
@@AlehGea yep, midnight mass for me too. I've rewatched it so many times and I get something new from it on every rewatch...and I still cry at Erin and Riley's monologues.
He is great
'if there's no need, create one.' for me this scene is a cold yet nice metaphor on how to control the masses
This is not a metaphor, this is literally capitalism today. It's not a metaphor. It is how it's done
Not a metaphor, but the recipe
That’s capitalism for ya
It’s the lesson of every “luxury” commodity on earth
It's obvious and yet still smacks you in the face when it's delivered with such straight forwardness, no hesitation, and cold.
The subtle switch up on 'then you patent the seeds' is chilling.
It's as though what he's talking about stops being a fun little metaphor, and everything suddenly becomes real.
@@ogdenjThe real life scenario involves Monsanto patenting soy beans that were genetically engineered to be resistant to RoundUp weed killer. The seeds got mixed with natural ones, and farmers unknowingly planted the patented seeds. Monsanto then sued everyone for patent infringement.
"Winning doesn't mean anything unless someone else loses."
Monsanto has destroyed a lot of cotton farmers from the demon seed!!! Thank you Mitt Romney!!
@@ogdenj Was just about to say that.
@@xeoh85Better to check the seeds you are using then. The wrong conclusion idiots draw from this fiasco is that somehow patenting seeds is wrong. No, the actual lesson is farming is done by uneducated rubes who don't understand technology, and need serious incentive structure if we have to sustain. We can no longer indulge in ivory towers in AC, leaving most important jobs to local joe's just because it requires getting your hands dirty
Honestly what makes this better is that this feels less like a monologue and more like him just giving away a step by step plan that he had stashed away to use for later
Companies have done everything he says.
@@samuelopoku4868Right? Part of that was literally describing the ‘precious stone’ industry
He was able to so effortlessly give that "monologue" because over the years, he has mastered the art of exploitation, underhanded business tactics, and monopoly. It just shows what a ruthless businessman he has become; probably a lot in in part of learning from his sister, since shes the real genius.
It's how he ran his business and amassed his millions. He was just giving Augie a look at the playbook.
This was a full description of what the WEF, world leaders and pharmaceutical companies did with Covid, and it is what they will do with our food next!
Life's list of people to not give lemons to
1. Cave Johnson
*2. Roderick Usher*
Cave Johnson would throw a temper tantrum at life over the lemons.
Roderick usher would build a Lem-pire and buy Cave Johnson's whole company.
I don't want your damn lemons! Lol 😂
A fellow dishonored Fan
And Rachel Zegler. And Donald Trump. And OJ Simpson. And Vladimir Putin. Shit, I could go on forever.
He just described the diamond market, it's so frustrating to see a goddamned diamond ring priced at 5k while knowing those things are incredibly common
For real! When I was a little kid, I asked my dad what was the rarest gem thinking he was going to say diamonds and he was like "lol, no. Diamonds aren't that rare but they're expensive." His lecture on the diamond market was my first lesson on how marketing works.
Ironically there is actually high demand for diamonds and shortish supply as china and India are starting to buy them now. Granted, I still think diamonds are just a waste of money.
@@EJD339 Well, they can be created in laboratories and if there's a thing that both China and India have is the money to invest in techonology to supply the interests of their nation.
Create the world you want to live in. I bought 1kg (2.2lbs) of man made diamonds. I give them away for free, because essentially, they are worthless.
Auggie's reaction was exactly how i reacted watching this scene for the first time
This has to be one of the best monologues I’ve ever seen in any TV show. Wow
have you seen Midnight Mass's 2 scenes about what happens when you die? my fav Flanagan monologues!
@@riro7170 yes Omg
Kevin spaceys monologues troughout house of cards are a bit better
Totally agree. Not just TV, anything cinema! ❣️
And when somebody makes synthetic lemons, that are purer and still cheaper than the natural ones, you tell everyone that only your lemons are the real thing.
He had that cover too on the monologue ''organic lemons''.
This is actually what happened with milk ("got milk?" campaign) and apples ("one apple a day keeps the doctor away" campaign).
The two levels of increasing "businessman" in Roderick during the speech is amazing.
1:02 - He's made his point, but he realizes how easily he can do all of this insane media craze over lemons and gives more examples.
1:34 - "I've made my point long ago, but this is how I truly go above and beyond with my greed" and gets serious over it.
I met Bruce Greenwood at Comic Con and he said this was his favorite monologue to film!!
This is such a rad fun fact. I imagine he and Flanagan took many takes and had a lot of fun with the different manners of delivery
Not surprised … it is mine as well … the cast was brilliant by the way … everyone on their A game !!!
I bet lemons sale will skyrocket after this scene.
This is a perfect illustration of establishing character through dialogue. It tells us everything about his values and his view of the world in general. The late edition of making lemon look like “tits“ adds, just a touch of the profane that reveals kind of creepy deviance within his business savvy. That, and the willingness to sue lemon farmers for copyright infringement. I bet he wouldn’t even enjoy the lemonade.
I immediately looked for this scene after I saw it, thanks for uploading!
Same lol.
Me too it was epic
Just now this alone has started #Lemon
Same here same here 😂
Haha same! Too good. About to rewind and watch it again on screen 😂
This and the sister's monologue at the end of the last episode are 2 of the best runs of lines I've ever seen, and I've been a film/screen fan for nearly 50 years. No doubt the writing plays a huge role, but the DELIVERY was just outstanding on both counts.
I honestly loves the twin. They are amazing, rising from proverty to where they at. Both of them are honestly great actors, and shows the siblinghood and admiration and love they have for each other until old age. You can see how much Roddy loves meddy by he is willing to die when she is the one that asked him to overdose of the pills. How much Meddy loves his brother by sticking by his sides through all the trubulane of life.
The jade eyes of the queen monologue was 👌
Those two scenes really are perfect. And the best part about them is they're both right
Agreed
One of the best critiques of late-stage capitalism in fiction since Succession. The scariest part is that the plan he is describing isn't exclusive to some "evil" corporate empires here and there: it's the standard practice of any large enterprise.
And this show kinda feels like Succession but with ghosts lol
@@TheDRODOR "Succession" except here the Logan Roy equivalent made a deal with a supernatural figure for all his success and now the payment is due.
@@TheDRODORit’s better writing than succession, and this scene proves that alone
Just enterprises? Man this is done by literally all governments
@@leotravel85Yes Party formally known as Democrats do this constantly.
This and her statement about a certain someone (quote to follow) are some of my favorite biting remarks of the current state of American politics and policies.
This whole thing was beautifully done.
“Like I said to one of my clients, when I’m done, you can stand in the middle of Fifth Avenue and shoot somebody, and it won’t cost you a thing.”
Unequivocally the best scene in the entire series -- the wisdom in this 2 minute scene holds the sauce that is a hundred times more valuable than an MBA bundled with a four year college degree. I literally found this video by Google searching "the lemon speech usher" -- and epic Bruce Greenwood delivered it to absolute perfection. Thank you.
Let me just understand @Qhaine: Do you see this as wisdom, or something to learn from?
You do realize that Roderick Usher is the villain of the piece, right? Or did you perhaps watch this whole show and let the point sail right over your head? He's not spouting any "wisdom". It's unadulterated avarice, for which there are consequences.
@@PrimetimeDThe way I view the speech is to be used from a marketing perspective. That’s the genius behind it.
Hahaha I did the EXACT SAME google search. It’s ridiculously genius.
I hope you’re kidding…
“When life hands you lemons…”
PLEASE tell me I wasn’t the only one who thought of the Cave Johnson rant here lol
This basically a long version of Cave Johnson’s lemon rant
Reminds me of Powerthist vid
When God hands you lemons...
You find a new God!
The Fall of the House of Usher is probably one of the best productions I've seen on Netflix and this scene is one of the best moments.
There is an article that came out today I believe,about how bad the writing was, that the whole speech was out of touch.I couldn't disagree more. The way they shot it, and its right on his face and he's taking a saying we have all heard before, "when life gives you lemons...you make lemonade" . Turns it into a very simple point of view of from a man who's part of the machine, who explains how and what most of the The Uber Rich think,and have been doing to capitalism, The Country and The World for years. Fantastic scene. Mike Flannigan loves monologues and ke likked it.IMO
There's still people who like to believe capitalism is perfectly fair as they're the ones benefitting from it and it isn't like, well, as described above.
The thing is... capitalism is fair and unbiased, but people are corrupt and steal.
@@PauLtus_Bmaybe pure capitalism would be fine if there wasn’t for corruption, bribery, bad faith and cronyism.
If people were more involved in legislation, and were able to watch out and see what’s really going on, maybe there will be more checks and balances to keep corruption from running rampant.
@@indigop38”That wasn’t real capitalism”
@indigop38 that's exactly what capitalism is. It's working exactly as intended by only benefitting the wealthy
this was Emmy worthy.. I was frozen while he weaved this spell of how truly greed and love of money can transform and dominate a human being ... great script... great acting !
This is fucking brilliant.
Writing🥇
Acting 🥇
No. It is fucking lemon.
It's not brilliant, its lemon
The fact that this is my second favorite monologue about life giving you lemons is remarkable
Never thought I’d say it, but this has replaced it to become my favourite.
Cave Johnson's?
This is impactful, along with Madeline's monologue in the finale.
Those 2 speeches I have listened to on repeat. Our economy is so screwed up and those speeches capture how so perfectly. I love it so much.
The worst thing? We watch that, are stunned, and then immediately hop on to the next episode/show. That’s exactly why nothing changes. We see the outcomes but we don’t care enough to do something about it
@@thejackasaur1168 Consume until you're 6ft underground, that's modern life for you.
A beautifully crafted dialogue from "The Fall of the House of Usher" presents a satirical and exaggerated critique of modern capitalism and its mechanisms, as portrayed through the metaphor of lemons. Profit and the nature of consumerism and the ethical considerations of business practices.
Or simply, "f'ing lemon!"
Mike Flanagan is off the scale talented. Midnight Mass blew me away, a masterclass in narrative and dramatic resolution of the entire series. Loved the Hauntings of... and am utterly gobsmacked with Usher...have rewatched the lemon scene half a dozen times. This is the "to be or not to be" soliloquy of our times. The people who churn out endless bland cookie cutter prequels and sequels are obliterated by talent like Mike's.
Love his using the same ensemble cast (mostly) across his different stuff.
Mike, I'm your No 1 Fan
💖💖💖
S.P.O.T. O.N.
Phenomenal writing + acting
I can’t imagine another writer/actor duo besides Flanagan & Greenwood for this. It’s perfect. Perfect down to the last minute detail.
Am totally hooked on Mine Flanagan. Midnight Mass just blew me away ❣️
I was in awe during this entire scene. I know alot of people don't like this writer but, he writes some of the deepest and meaningful stuff I've ever heard. Especially in Midnight Mass.
Newbie to his work but why do people hate him?
@@LordVodka313They think he's pretentious, his monologues don't have meaning or go on for too long and get boring. I entirely disagree. Midnight Mass has the most monologues out of any of his work and it's actually my favorite because of how thought provoking it is.
He’s the best writer in the biz. People either just don’t get it or just hate to hate. Personally I think he’s well aware of what he’s writing and is aware he may be a complete contradiction of his writings but that’s kinda what horror genre originally was. Holding up a mirror to the the truths of human nature that we try to avoid looking at. I absolutely love his work.
I like monologues in this but not Midnight Mass 😅
Midnight Mass did feel pretentious and crammed with word salad that has no meaning or focus, to me at least.
@@interestingusername306 No they do have meaning, but Flanagan does tend to go overboard over it at times when he's made the point 3 sentences back.
And people think this criticism immediately means they hate the man, no, and I HATE THAT, in fact, I think Flanagan is the reason why my Halloween or the month of October is great, because he usually releases a series around this time, I love his works.
But his long monologues are a double edged sword. People like it, but easily understandable why some people don't, and even more easily understandable why some people who do like it might think sometimes it's a bit much.
Let's hope he never meets Cave Johnson, they might have a slight disagreement about what to do with Lemons
Make life take the lemons back!!
Or worse, they'd team up.
how to manage in 2 minutes to draw a perfect portrait of how our society works. flanagan is a fucking genius.
He'd also have to alter the meaning of "lemon" as it pertains to automobiles. Instead of it meaning broken it would have to be one that is desirable above all others.
There is NO better special effect than a slow close-up of a single actor giving a stunningly brilliant performance.
2:12 ... Honestly i caught myself having the same face gesture than him 😂
me too lol!
Exact same! I was like he is me
If we take the flashback years into account, Roderick is at least 70 here. There's nothing scarier than an old man knowing about all these 2020s subjects/trends and taking advantage of it.
The smart ones are the ones who have a finger on the pulse of each generation and don’t get out of touch.
I watched this series a while back, and every time I think of the Phrase "When life gives you lemons" I remember this scene .
Inspiring, thought-provoking, funny ( the Kardashian part almost made me fall to the floor) and an overall great speech. One of the best monologues I have ever seen.
With the Kardashian part, I would have also accepted “You get a Kardashian to balance a lemon on her fat ass in a photo shoot.”
He really deserves a best actor award for his performance in this series.
I'm so happy to be alive on the timeline that has a Bruce Greenwood.
Absolutely floored by Greenwood's delivery and Flanagan's writing. In that order :)
This is legit one of the best monologues ever written and Bruce Greenwood is mesmerizing with every single word he says. Holy shit, this show was incredible.
and to think he wasn’t originally cast for this and a bunch of the show had to be hastily reshot with him as Roderick! I can’t imagine the show without his performance
I watched my wife closely while she watched this scene. She was in absolute disbelief. It's such a great summary of incredibly manipulative and downright evil corporations are.
absolutely awesome ... am in the midst of watching and saw this scene .... and to get it across to people how incredible this telling is .. this scene ... 🙂
Get it across as much as we can, people should know how deep the rabbit hole goes when it comes to corporate entities and their marketing powers
The look of WTF despair on the other persons face is fantastic. Great scene
This scene was so well written....it gave me effin chills. This show was one of the best written shows ive seen in a long time.
I find it funny that Beethoven's Pathetique second movement is playing throughout this scene.
I understand why Hollywood writers are striking. The unsung heroes behind the movies!!!!
It’s insane that this scene only has 300K views. It should have MILLIONS. It’s the best explanation of modern capitalism in history
Sally sells sea shells by the sea shore but rod got lemons stocked to the door
Already iconic !! Thank you Bruce !
Amazing cast to be honest , everybody on their A game … no weak link here … no sir !!!!
Bravo !!!!
I've always enjoyed how Flanagan has so many monologues in his shows that allow for the actors to deliver scenes of this caliber
I fxcking love this scene. Been watching it over and over again. The music is so good, too. What a lemon 🍋
How Roderick explains how to build a successful lemon business is effing lemon.
Bruce Greenwood's performance was the chef's kiss
He's an underrated actor in my opinion but if I have to place him in a category of good actors then I'd place him among great names like Robert De Niro...
Without question Bruce Greenwoods AWARD winning performance of his entire career! And all the metaphors OMG, genius writing and performances all around.
I remember being fuckin blown away while watching this for the first time. Just mind blowing monologue
Amazin writing, amazing acting....what a great dense and true summary of how to do it...
Like how De Beers does with diamonds, they artificially choke the supply which increases it price. They went ham on the marketing with diamonds, saying how it's the only way you propose and all of that jazz.
Every show I've seen from Mike always has at least one great monologue 😮💨
Literally one of the best ways I’ve heard the truth put! loved the mini series one of my favorite parts in the show forsure! Fuckin real life spoken out loud genius!
And these lemons are Gluten-free... Gluten-free lemons cost more... because you know... they had to be processed to be free of Gluten... ;-)
That look at the end is priceless....
I love how much this scene just epitomizes the bullshit in commercialism. Like I always wonder why marketing is such a respected profession when 9 times out of ten its lying to people that they NEED this bullshit product or worse, LYING to people that this product is safe and has its intended effects.
You know who I consider a respectable profession? A plumber, a plumber gets their hands dirty, deals with your shit, cleans your toilet and makes a tidy profit helping people and they make lots of money and yet one of these professions are higher class than the other
Ever since i saw Bruce Greenwood as Thomas Veil in 1996s Nowhere Man, i knew i was looking at a master.
Carl Lumbly at 2:12 is Everyone's Spirit Animal.
Cave Johnson would be proud
finally someone else who thought this
The most epic analysis of capitalistic economic model ….
This was the best series I saw this year. Look at the quality of writing. It's perfection.
Bro just gave you the whole for free. This monologue is lemon af.
in a way, i'm kinda glad frank langella got fired. i can't imagine him doing this monologue any justice the way bruce did
Dan (you know if it's you),
You're the man. Ty for the laugh.
Patrick Harris, Sr.
Best scene of the episode
Great metaphor for diamonds, an incredibly common stone that is ridiculously priced based on what we're told to believe and buy.
I didn't catch until now that at the end, he says LEMpire 😂
This is right up there with Gordon Gekos greed is good speech. This has no business going this hard.
This describes so many different industries. He is totally right
Damn, Cave Johnson really has become more refined over the years.
The look on the detectives face at the end is what it looks like when one has been “Lemoned”
Nobody could have delivered this any better than Bruce Greenwood! 🎉
This actor is underrated. Incredible performance!!
The writing, the delivery...damn. 👏👏👏
Brilliant writing, exceeded only by the brilliant delivery of Bruce Greenwood and the sublime reaction of Carl Lumbly. TV drama at its very finest.
Capitalism nailed.
4 year of business school in 2 minutes
@@tomarnold7284lol facts
It's the cold hard facts version of capitalism without any of the flowery bullshit about "working hard." That is why I loved this scene.
Corporatism
True , but you also have to add that “lemons” aren’t controlled by one person or company. “Lemons” have competition. Capitalism is the ability for multiple companies to compete with one and another for the best quality possible at the cheapest possible- and whatever company can do this the best wins capitalism.
Monsanto patented seeds & did something similar to this with suing farmers, no?
not just that, they seeds kill others crops so if you want to keep producing you need to start buying they seeds, they tried to do that in my country Peru introducing a new kind of potato but thanks God the government stop them to do that
Honestly, this show has been dropping a lot of "secrets" about how the rich and powerful navigate (and manipulate) this world. The show passes it off as grotesque exaggerations, but I'm not so sure anything is being exaggerated ...
I literally just watched this scene. I had to stop the episode so I could find it on RUclips and save it. I frickin' love this scene. How did Bruce Greenwood and the writers of this show not get Emmys, holy crap....
I've seen this scene too many times. And it's always great.
Its Effin lemon, bruh.
When life gives you lemons say f**k the lemons and bail.
In less than 3 minutes, thanks to the amazing writing, this guy just summarized how to get rich in our modern world...
One of THE best written and acted monologues ever done.
as a top-tier movie director (Ted Hecksey, look me up), a former real-estate mogul, and corporate leader, I can with 100% confidence confirm that this is how all of us corporate leaders think. Effing Lemon.
One of my favorite scenes in any show or movie
This is acting! And this is the world today.
A fuckin' lemon!
When he says OS Lemón, ooouuuh man, chills down the spine..
This scene had me like whoa! Came here to see if anyone posted it. Thanks!
Bloody hell I love coming back and watching this.
Never knew lemons were so versatile! But really good scene, and very topical.