Is this BSG APOLOGY (The Unheard Edition)

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  • @BigBingus-jq9rn
    @BigBingus-jq9rn 24 дня назад +397

    He didn't even apologize lol, "We're sorry that you feel this way" is NOT an apology for all the bullshit they pulled. They're just upset that we need bend the knee

    • @thatonepolarstarguy1012
      @thatonepolarstarguy1012 24 дня назад +13

      It’s a backhanded apology. The tarkoomers aren’t getting that.

    • @TankJr.
      @TankJr. 24 дня назад

      Thats what Sheef said?

    • @zaster500
      @zaster500 24 дня назад +8

      u are a Baby "he hurt my Feelings ..he dont apologize...mimimi" 🤣

    • @ggoose11224
      @ggoose11224 24 дня назад +8

      genuinely why do you care though. they realised their mistake and are course correcting. thats all that matters when youre playing the game.

    • @Vizixor72
      @Vizixor72 24 дня назад +1

      theres still pay to win

  • @bperry573
    @bperry573 24 дня назад +84

    That's gaslighting. That's not an apology.
    If I said "I am sorry YOU got upset over what I did" to anyone, they would not be happy either

    • @thatonepolarstarguy1012
      @thatonepolarstarguy1012 24 дня назад +8

      People aren’t seeing this and it shows. It’s textbook gaslighting and only reinforcing what they can get away with. The tarkoomers will be back to playing their game 2 weeks tops. Spineless behavior.

    • @DonaldMarfison
      @DonaldMarfison 24 дня назад

      Ok whatever you dont like the apology what does this have to do with the changes being made to appease you? do you want him to beg forgiveness and not do anything about it or are you just complaining to complain?

    • @almc8445
      @almc8445 24 дня назад

      @@DonaldMarfison An apology: "I am sorry WE MADE A BAD CHOICE"
      Not an apology: "I am sorry YOU FEEL THIS WAY about the things we did"

    • @FriesOnYt
      @FriesOnYt 23 дня назад

      @@almc8445so complaining to complain. got it.

    • @MrVaiza
      @MrVaiza 23 дня назад

      @@DonaldMarfison its a valid reason to be upset

  • @Luster...
    @Luster... 24 дня назад +273

    BSG really loves promoting SPT. They might as well hand over the rights to the whole game to the modders behind SPT.

    • @everythingpony
      @everythingpony 24 дня назад +1

      I mean I got spt free? Just email support and they give it to you

    • @LazyCatMane
      @LazyCatMane 24 дня назад

      @@everythingponyor download it from their website lol

    • @xxtripleokgaming
      @xxtripleokgaming 24 дня назад +19

      @@everythingpony tf are you talking about lol

    • @zaster500
      @zaster500 24 дня назад +7

      You are WRONG af :D WTF
      Klean called BSG before he streamed SPT... they dont wanna Promote SPT and he had to Delete the VOD.
      They just understand how much Potential it has and they dont Stoped him streaming it cuz they dont wanna made the community just more pissed....
      At the end SPT isnt a Big thing , its actually Boring af at some point. Modding is nice but u just play Solo against Bots at the end. The only Sell point, u just need the standart version.
      Klean Said this many Times ON Stream. Dont Spray wrong romours

    • @JJMCvideos
      @JJMCvideos 24 дня назад

      SPT is free it's a mod for tarkov​@@everythingpony

  • @Iguessthislldo
    @Iguessthislldo 24 дня назад +87

    Sorry I'm late, i haven't purchased priority queuing on this account

    • @scandallpower
      @scandallpower 24 дня назад +7

      You may or may not have access to it later

    • @Kryzul
      @Kryzul 24 дня назад +1

      It will come in waves

    • @Iguessthislldo
      @Iguessthislldo 24 дня назад +2

      @@Kryzul So does my depression but that doesn't mean I want it 😜

    • @darknostic5323
      @darknostic5323 24 дня назад

      kekw funny stuff

    • @dudebruh8534
      @dudebruh8534 24 дня назад +4

      Dude, why don't you just give RUclips 250$ so you can get priority commenting?

  • @cicolo103
    @cicolo103 24 дня назад +35

    Paying 150$ for EOD was ENOUGH of support for a game that was not playable for years.

    • @CLAWBandet22
      @CLAWBandet22 24 дня назад +2

      and is still hardly playable at times*

    • @FriesOnYt
      @FriesOnYt 23 дня назад +1

      to be fair you bought a game that was in early beta

    • @CLAWBandet22
      @CLAWBandet22 23 дня назад +1

      @@FriesOnYt while that is understandable it just seems like making extra content and charging 250 is way too much for an unfinished game, also seems like they should have finished the game before making arena too

    • @Reteq
      @Reteq 23 дня назад +1

      ​@CLAWBandet22 exactly, adding a new edition and charging an insane amount for it whilst the game is still in beta is ridiculous.

    • @CLAWBandet22
      @CLAWBandet22 23 дня назад

      @@Reteq i also feel it was not smart of them to release another in the works game while the one they've had out for 7 years is not even done yet, it seems to me as they are digging themselves a grave

  • @bacory_
    @bacory_ 24 дня назад +86

    this is NOT an apology.

    • @TankJr.
      @TankJr. 24 дня назад

      That´s exactly what Sheef pointed at?

    • @nasjon2969
      @nasjon2969 24 дня назад +1

      People would have preferred him to apologize with a scripted sentence from chat GPT lol i find this more natural and as a Ukrainian it sound really natural !

    • @Kerm_ST1
      @Kerm_ST1 24 дня назад +1

      That is also NOT apology 😂

    • @SMELLSLIKEUPDOG321
      @SMELLSLIKEUPDOG321 23 дня назад

      Awe did they hurt your feelings? Apology *

  • @thundermuffin71
    @thundermuffin71 24 дня назад +54

    Not an apology at all. Stop labeling it as such

    • @redshift912
      @redshift912 24 дня назад +1

      Did you type that thinking they were going to change the title ?

    • @nasjon2969
      @nasjon2969 24 дня назад

      People would have preferred him to apologize with a scripted sentence from chat GPT lol i find this more natural and as a Ukrainian it sound really natural !

    • @nasjon2969
      @nasjon2969 24 дня назад

      whatever how it would be phrase you drama queen would have a found a way to scream :) u live for those moments !!!!!

    • @SMELLSLIKEUPDOG321
      @SMELLSLIKEUPDOG321 23 дня назад

      Imagine being this salty over pixels and that somebody lied lol u do realize every multi million dollar company lies and they care about money not your feelings lol

  • @BaronofGermania
    @BaronofGermania 24 дня назад +120

    This is not enough. This is a nonapology. What about the Unheard's price at $250? What about the lying about the removal of words on the EOD's webpage?

    • @Drunkendrakon
      @Drunkendrakon 24 дня назад +3

      Really only people angry are EOD owners. Its a non issue for me because I do spt on the basic edition.

    • @DontWatchAdsJustRefresh
      @DontWatchAdsJustRefresh 24 дня назад

      We are angry because we dont like to be fucked with. But I guess not everyone is like that 🤡 ​@@Drunkendrakon

    • @DontWatchAdsJustRefresh
      @DontWatchAdsJustRefresh 24 дня назад +1

      You will forget, trust, cyka.

    • @SkratG
      @SkratG 24 дня назад +10

      @@Drunkendrakon only? thats half their player base lol, and the other half that arent EOD also have to worry about them calling the avengers mid raid to kill you, while being immune to sniper scavs. Its too much man.

    • @user-oz1ny
      @user-oz1ny 24 дня назад +1

      250 that ur still not obligated to pay

  • @namename-xn3de
    @namename-xn3de 24 дня назад +62

    This greedy stupid shit happened with War Thunder and everyone bad mouthed it everywhere, and although there's still problems with the game, its significantly better than it was before the community put pressure on the devs. Keep strong and they'll keep backpedaling.

    • @wg4112
      @wg4112 24 дня назад

      when did this happen with war thunder?

    • @namename-xn3de
      @namename-xn3de 24 дня назад +9

      @@wg4112 May of last year, everyone was sick and tired of all the pricing of the vehicles, the awful bugs the stupid lack of rewards (even if you had single handedly won the match) and general quality of life things.

    • @mishalw210
      @mishalw210 24 дня назад +3

      who cares War Thunder)

    • @wg4112
      @wg4112 24 дня назад +1

      @@namename-xn3de yeah thats pretty different from what tarkov did, war thunder didnt directly lie and scam its most loyal playerbase

    • @namename-xn3de
      @namename-xn3de 24 дня назад

      @@wg4112 Uh yeah it kind of did, by that logic no Free 2 play game can scam their audience since you can grind it all for free. (In 6 years)

  • @viperion_nz
    @viperion_nz 24 дня назад +35

    "Sorry you feel that way" is not an apology

    • @TankJr.
      @TankJr. 24 дня назад

      That´s what Sheef said.

  • @simpy3651
    @simpy3651 24 дня назад +111

    went from "i cant regain the trust that was once there" to "it will take a bit to regain the trust"

    • @mrmanchello3474
      @mrmanchello3474 24 дня назад +72

      All of them are the same. stomp feet make multiple videos on how unhappy they over the situation. give it a week and all of them will have bought it and do multiple videos saying how great PvE mode is.

    • @denhamleeson3674
      @denhamleeson3674 24 дня назад +9

      Because they have clearly listened to the backlash and are trying to amend, I think that’s fair

    • @FemboichadClip
      @FemboichadClip 24 дня назад +9

      @@mrmanchello3474 well if they don't act like it is the end of the world the devs most likely won't actually change anything. Things are perfectly fine now and the fact that they atleast listened is enough for most ppl.

    • @thatonepolarstarguy1012
      @thatonepolarstarguy1012 24 дня назад +4

      It’s their income stream what do people expect? Morals? Standards? That goes out the window when money is involved. They’d have to go back to big boy jobs if it wasn’t for BSG. Plain and simple.

    • @oldenoughtowatchify
      @oldenoughtowatchify 24 дня назад +4

      Ethical consumption doesn't exist

  • @DanielAssadiSami
    @DanielAssadiSami 24 дня назад +87

    Yeah this is still not good enough, it sets a bad precedent for the future of tarkov and what game studios can do to their customers

    • @warlocksnevereverdie
      @warlocksnevereverdie 24 дня назад +3

      This shit is not unique dog.

    • @idkaustin2577
      @idkaustin2577 24 дня назад +6

      @@warlocksnevereverdie So because of popularity abusive monetization strategies are justified?

    • @warlocksnevereverdie
      @warlocksnevereverdie 24 дня назад +1

      @@idkaustin2577 no but people acting like we are the only people who ever have had this problem is them playing dumb. EFT might be the only developer in history to actually take "some" ownership when they fuck up. I'm not saying we have to put on a smile but the community could stop listening to the people saying never forgive battelstate when they have always been flaky and shady like this. A large portion of people bitching don't even play the game anymore

    • @1DanteadamS1
      @1DanteadamS1 24 дня назад +2

      @@warlocksnevereverdie That's irrelevant, It's a shitty scam and it has to be opposed. It's as simple as that. Only reason there are more cases such as this is because someone didn't stand up, so it's not an excuse to not do anything.
      "One time one person tried to scam another, so no scam ever should be opposed" is what you're saying.

    • @warlocksnevereverdie
      @warlocksnevereverdie 24 дня назад

      @@1DanteadamS1 not what I'm saying at all. you are just incapable of understanding nuance.

  • @virgilm1491
    @virgilm1491 24 дня назад +8

    The real issue is that all of this is so on-brand for BSG. It’s not a one-off, fluke, or miscommunication. Poor communication and treating its community as shitty as possible is just how they operate. Time for a new game!

  • @evidicus
    @evidicus 24 дня назад +3

    I wish anyone who buys the “Arena Didn’t Sell” edition was forced to wear the special armband that comes with it.
    Ten years ago I quit playing MechWarrior online after PGI started selling $500 gold mechs. But before I left, it was glorious watching anyone who dropped into a mission with a gold mech get instantly TK’d off the spawn. People were more willing to lose matches than team up with bootlickers. It happened so much that PGI threatened to ban people for “bullying”.
    That’s exactly what should happen to anyone who buys this $250 edition of Tarkov. It’s not about the edition itself. It’s not even about the money. It’s because every purchase is a validation of Nikita’s underhanded bullshit.

  • @zaidozero
    @zaidozero 24 дня назад +6

    The offline mode should be open to everyone; EFT is still in Beta. Anything they add isn't dlc since the game HASN'T FKN RELEASED! What a greedy move and a shitty non-apology.

  • @stevejob7898
    @stevejob7898 24 дня назад +7

    "we sorry that the community is experiencing these feelings" is not an apology, it's saying " you're mad and that's on you"

  • @User-gd5un
    @User-gd5un 24 дня назад +7

    Saying “sorry you feel the way that you do” is not an apology at all lol

  • @trashcompactorYT
    @trashcompactorYT 24 дня назад +6

    "I'm sorry you feel that way" isn't an apology, Sheef

  • @ajm21582
    @ajm21582 24 дня назад +11

    I feel like a new edition like Unheard would have been ok if they had just honored their EOD promise from the start and not acted wonky about changing the verbiage to eliminate past promises in the manner that they did. $250 is still a lot for access to any single game but most of the outrage would just be over an inflated price point and not the entire integrity of their company.

  • @AquaAK723
    @AquaAK723 23 дня назад +1

    quote from my conversation with a friend about the situation, "Putting the rug back after you pulled it out doesn't remove the carpet burns, and the person you pulled the rug on still has to move."
    the line has been drawn in the sand. BSG does NOT care about honoring agreements, they think the consequences of their actions end at a "we're sorry that you feel that way" on Reddit, and they see no value in their 8+ year most hardcore supporters aside from the potential future revenue they can get from an upgrade to Unheard edition.
    this game is dead to me.

  • @b20rock
    @b20rock 24 дня назад +3

    Hear me out. Why are they selling $250 product if they don't have server capacity? That's just scummy AF.

    • @almc8445
      @almc8445 24 дня назад

      They have server capacity. It's a single player game.

    • @user-ye2vn4dh8h
      @user-ye2vn4dh8h 23 дня назад

      Not for 40% of the player base that has EOD

    • @almc8445
      @almc8445 23 дня назад

      @@user-ye2vn4dh8h what?…

  • @FeStratagem
    @FeStratagem 24 дня назад +3

    As a business perspective, the offline should be sold as a base and it getting locally hosted on persons computer and working from there, too much is ran on their own servers.

    • @markosz22
      @markosz22 24 дня назад

      If they were serious about that, they would have officially supported SPT.

    • @almc8445
      @almc8445 24 дня назад +2

      But then they couldn't shittily justify charging an extra $100 for them...

  • @alecdelcambre6995
    @alecdelcambre6995 24 дня назад +1

    The most insane part to me is that the people who already paid $250 aren’t getting refunded now they’re selling it at a HUGE discount and are getting a key for another account, which they probably would never use. And the idea of it being for a friend to try the game is just so hopefully they decided to upgrade it too. It’s a complete smack in the face, basically them saying “we already got your money get fucked”.

  • @BrandonRecon117
    @BrandonRecon117 24 дня назад +1

    Imagine paying 250 to play PVE when you can get it for free with SPT, that has had mod support since the beginning along with features that BSG took without compensating the people that created them

  • @Siddwraith
    @Siddwraith 24 дня назад +1

    they should offer some kind of game points to buy other items like stash space or the clothes etc for those who spent more instead of just a game code

  • @phlave
    @phlave 23 дня назад +2

    Can we stop saying that "EoD owners will get it FOR FREE"? It's not fucking free. It was 150$, payed in advance. Let's not forget that we are owed what we bought, and it's not charity when they try and not give it to us and then cave in to outrage.

  • @Eternally_Ninja
    @Eternally_Ninja 24 дня назад +11

    Unheard addition still has:
    -2 extra pocket slots as 2x1 for early game P2W.
    -180 rounds of the best ammo for that early P2W.
    -Ammo, weapon and junk boxes for MORE early P2W.
    -Lv3 starting skills, because Nikita cant stop ruining the early game.
    -More slots in flea market for cheaters and RMT.
    -INSTANT access to early tests server for 250$ that should be going to players who have 2K+ hours in the game, because they are the ones qualified to test anything.
    -Gamma container still in unheard edition, even though it was "UNIQUE" to Eod.
    -Mark of the unheard: the item that gives you 50% off cash items and makes scavs that are 60m away not shoot you.
    -Distress signal: the item that lets you call EVERYONE on your friends list to join your raid.
    ^^^WHAT^^^IS^^^ALL^^^THIS^^^GARBAGE^^^
    dont buckle because BSG took back 30% of the atrocious garbage they said.

    • @1DanteadamS1
      @1DanteadamS1 24 дня назад +1

      The whole "discount for eod" is bad too, it's still a way to sell more stuff to people who were promised everything for free and that they won't have to pay for anything, and "unique" gamma is still not unique

    • @TheLemonist
      @TheLemonist 24 дня назад

      I don’t mind all of you people hating. I happily enjoy playing pve tarkov after upgrading from EOD. Funny that I get hate for that now. Anyways. IF you want to hate and ramble on some bullshit, at least get your facts right. The only p2w thing in entire tarkov is the gamma container if you are too bad to go for kappa. All the rest ist neglectible and the unheard edition change that. Okay maybe the 2 pocket slots are fine but tbh, I couldn’t care less. It’s not a major advantage. The starting gear is irrelevant since you start racking up millions anyway really fast. The unheard item is totally trash since you aren’t allowed to kill any scavs with it, if you don’t want to lose all your rep. The signal item is not even in the game and I assure you if it comes, they will have a way to balance it. Also there are only a small ampint of skills you start at lvl 3, totally useless aswell. Gamma container: people wanted it to be taken out for years. Then they want it back because it’s „pay 2 win“ and people can’t get it anymore. So all I am saying, if you hate the game, stop playing and stop sucking each others internet dicks and form a front against bsg. Me personally can somewhat understand their actions.

    • @TwiggehTV
      @TwiggehTV 24 дня назад

      @@TheLemonist Its not P2W to be able to call back your whole squad after they died? BRUH
      Fighting a 5man with an Unheard ed. is now effectively fighting a 9man since the last guy can call back his 4 friends. A NINE MAN.
      A gamma container lets you save some ingame money, who gives a fuck when money is everywhere.
      I would trade a 20slot gammacontainer for the ability to FREAKING CALL EXTRA PMCs INTO THE FIGHT

    • @TheLemonist
      @TheLemonist 23 дня назад

      @@TwiggehTV dude that item is not in the game. It’s not even explained how it’s going to work und I won’t cry about a subject to change that’s going to be in the game in years.

    • @TwiggehTV
      @TwiggehTV 23 дня назад

      @@TheLemonist Thats not what i asked. Is it, or is it not, P2W to pay money to be able to summon people to a fight?
      That is EXPLICITLY what the item is supposed to do, and you pay for that premium.

  • @wilhelmhetrick8948
    @wilhelmhetrick8948 24 дня назад

    The que times aren't long in offline mode. It's a bug and all you do is restart matchmaking if you don't find a match within one minute.

  • @666maidenfan
    @666maidenfan 24 дня назад +5

    This isn't enough and settling for it will lead to them doing similar stuff in the future. The items that they're adding go against what they've promised and are leading to a place where microtransactions are the norm, except they'll probably not call them microtransactions.
    The fact that it wasn't an apology and more of a sucks you feel that way not we're sorry for our actions. There's a difference
    Having separate editions is fine, but going back on previous promises and having a money grab isn't okay. They could have released more cosmetics if they needed more money.

    • @rebel4466
      @rebel4466 24 дня назад

      Nikita invented macrotransactions here

  • @LaBomba075
    @LaBomba075 24 дня назад +4

    Fuck eft i will play grey zone.

  • @Dathwish-uk2bu
    @Dathwish-uk2bu 24 дня назад +1

    nikita didn't apologize, he said sorry for how we felt, like it was our fault for being mad that he pulled the rug out from under us EOD owners. as for the rest of his post, he's just saying what we want to hear at this point, and he will go back on it. I 100% promise this. just like when he said EOD owners would get arena first, in waves based on when you bought it, yet A LOT of og EOD owners didn't get arena till the day of public release. but if you bought it, you got instant access.... nikitas words have no merit at this point. as for the mod support on PvE, its gonna be a joke, or he will delete and say he never said it. lets not forget he said it wouldnt be till 1.0 release......which is never coming given the current state of the game. What he need to do is team up with spt and make that the official PvE mode. spt is more polished than tarkov is at this point and nikita is too thick headed to see that.

  • @Bean5prout
    @Bean5prout 24 дня назад +1

    I bought tarkov pre alpha, I bought EOD a few years later.
    If I paid $.20 every time I launched tarkov or for every hour I spent in game I would owe BSG money.
    So I am more than happy to support good developers and buy unheard.
    That being said, I do not really want the extra items or perks.... The grind is getting a bit boring but I don't want to start ahead of everyone.

    • @markosz22
      @markosz22 24 дня назад

      "good developers"
      You know it's been 8 years and EFT is still in this early beta feeling state?

    • @Bean5prout
      @Bean5prout 24 дня назад

      @@markosz22 you know it's been 8 years and I still play Tarkov. There's still quests I haven't done and parts of maps I haven't fully explored, weapons I haven't really used, there's friends I've made playing that I still talk to outside of game.
      It may be in Alpha still, but it's been playable for a long time.
      It has had its issues, many off them,.it's been more than unpalyable because of cheaters and BSG hasn't always listened to the players. They are far from perfect.
      But its still my favourite game, no other has actually got my heart racing and I've had 8 years of enjoyment for $150.... I feel like I've ripped BSG off.

    • @Bean5prout
      @Bean5prout 24 дня назад

      @@markosz22 although I'm not at all impressed by this pay to win mentality that's come from nowhere.

  • @_Dippy
    @_Dippy 24 дня назад +2

    i love regular tarkov but i cant play it like i used to. i might get on for a few hours each week and i dont always want to run solo raids. i think the pve mode will give many players more access to the game without having to grind it from wipe just to get lvl 30 before the next wipe because you dont play like these other people. little more laid back and a little more "predictable"

  • @Just_G4
    @Just_G4 23 дня назад

    I love that you own up to "I bought EOD for stash space and big safe container"
    I see most people even after this edition came out saying that EOD was not P2W and they didn't buy it for the extra advantages....

  • @afrowolf1399
    @afrowolf1399 24 дня назад +4

    Hopefully they give us the pockets, id only upgrade if i kept my gold name with a crown. IMO EoD gets everything that Unheard gets the only reason unheard should be expensive is because its a current day "EoD". There's no longer a sale on it

    • @krelekari
      @krelekari 24 дня назад +1

      Also they really goofed adding the "will get future dlc's" or it's a sales tactic just the same as EOD and never meant to be a kept promise

  • @coolbydefault
    @coolbydefault 23 дня назад

    i'm literally getting in the PVE MODE instantly after the loot pools finish loading .. havent had a que time over 1 minute in my last few raids PVE zone

  • @DenpaCake
    @DenpaCake 24 дня назад +1

    How are they going to provide mod support? The PvE mode still runs on their servers.

    • @Herne0011
      @Herne0011 24 дня назад

      They will probably monetize mods aka Ark Survival Ascended and use Overwolf to enforce compliance. Remember I called it here first :).

  • @tytt4594
    @tytt4594 23 дня назад

    The ai in sptarkov is nuts. It makes me wonder why it isn’t like that in the main game? The ai can rush you when you heal/reload, they peak corners, blind with flashlights, bunny hop, flank etc. rats chads Timmy ai etc it’s crazy.

  • @okeguy9379
    @okeguy9379 23 дня назад

    i stay dont understand they said eode gets it free but under it they just said the put the price on half so am really confused

  • @JohnnyD69FG
    @JohnnyD69FG 24 дня назад +1

    The old "non apology apology". Don't trust them now.

  • @thatvioletguy7484
    @thatvioletguy7484 23 дня назад

    I don’t understand why we have to pay for unheard things like the pockets and the flare or radio that was supposed to be base game features…

  • @joeluna7289
    @joeluna7289 24 дня назад

    So then what about all the other extra gear all the unheard of editions get?

  • @olternaut
    @olternaut 24 дня назад +7

    I just want them to remove the pay 2 win features of the unheard addition.

    • @oliverhart737
      @oliverhart737 24 дня назад

      What are the pay to win features

    • @olternaut
      @olternaut 23 дня назад

      Well let's see, you will have the ability not to be targeted by AI sniper scavs beyond 60 meters, you will have pockets extended to 6 slots, and here's the kicker....you will be given a special radio to call your friends on your friends list to spawn to your location as backup when you get in trouble. Nikita has lost his mind!@@oliverhart737

  • @jay2kswagg464
    @jay2kswagg464 24 дня назад +1

    How is it 70% off for EOD when it was $100 base and buyers will pay $50-$56 with taxes how’s that 70% they lying again or is 70% considered 50% off to BSG I mean 70% would be $30 instead of $50 from original $100

  • @wirhly
    @wirhly 24 дня назад

    I knew that the offline mode was going to be riddled with bugs but the whole being able to sell things from offline mode was one that I didn't think would happen (given the claim is true however)

  • @Draggonmore
    @Draggonmore 24 дня назад

    So i havent purchased "Unheard" im EOD but lets say i did buy it and later down the line they release extra stuff for EOD making it better id lose out on that because i wouldn't be able to revert back to EOD im assuming. I think they should just upgrade all EOD to unheard and give out keys to those who upgrade from EOD and spent the money.

  • @ryanmaris1917
    @ryanmaris1917 23 дня назад

    My first match took awhile to match but every match since then is 1-3mins max.

  • @markosz22
    @markosz22 24 дня назад

    1. A problem they created - Their back-end is probably an unoptimized mess just like the entire game is, taking half a server to run a single match and few AIs. No wonder matching is 5-10 minutes.
    2. Even if it was true, it would be very limited modding support seeing how the game still runs on THEIR servers. But anything promised "after release" is a lie, because it's not going to happen.
    3. Still pay to win.
    4. "Fool me once..."
    5. At a snail's pace. 8 years of development and still an unoptimized rough beta and can't even nail down the basic game mechanics.

  • @ifoundmemallet3394
    @ifoundmemallet3394 24 дня назад +1

    So can you download and play SPT now without being banned??

    • @timmcgee8380
      @timmcgee8380 24 дня назад

      Yup, just dont open the bsg launcher while using spt. They literally cannot detect spt if used/installed correctly

  • @mikaelbiilmann6826
    @mikaelbiilmann6826 23 дня назад

    Giving EOD owners the PvE... for 6 months... Nikita purposefully omitted that part... plus the non-apology... He is just sorry he got caught and got this kind of reaction to the scamming and lying.

  • @neen067
    @neen067 24 дня назад

    Hi Sheef, great channel, as a standard tarkov user I missed out on EOD and that’s fine but I agree with you that pve offline could be sold separately, I would buy it, being from Oz to upgrade to this new version would cost me $370 Aussie dollars just nuts, can’t justify that for a video game regardless how good it is.

  • @atulk603
    @atulk603 24 дня назад

    So now what is the cost

  • @Avatar619
    @Avatar619 22 дня назад

    Rule 1 is you NEVER give money back if you can help it. That's why the game keys makes sense, they already have the money, they're not gonna give it back, so what do you do to compensate people? "Oh a free game key!"

  • @stormyRust
    @stormyRust 23 дня назад +1

    We’re being absolutely milked

  • @Kovar99YT
    @Kovar99YT 24 дня назад +1

    if u add a new mode to a game, you have to download it, "downloadable content"

  • @tinyseapancake2674
    @tinyseapancake2674 24 дня назад +1

    Paying $250 for "PVE" but it's not PVE.. a new low for gaming company

    • @user-ye2vn4dh8h
      @user-ye2vn4dh8h 23 дня назад

      What are you talking about? How its ’not’ pve

    • @tinyseapancake2674
      @tinyseapancake2674 23 дня назад

      Not player vs environment it's literally copy and paste of a server just with a new price tag. EOD purchases were promised DLC then they change the website description of it last minute, I seriously hope you didn't purchase this garbage

  • @Cwayze
    @Cwayze 24 дня назад

    His suggestion at 8:40 was literally what I suggested, they need an entry level point for the game. That’s what should have happened

  • @xscope_x1583
    @xscope_x1583 23 дня назад +1

    I paid the full $100 and have gotten 0 extra things from the $50 price drop I've been scammed ive gotten no key either

  • @StupifiedTrooper
    @StupifiedTrooper 22 дня назад

    I upgraded to unheard for 50, that's reasonable and what the price should have been to begin with. Also i think the "were sorry that you feel this way" is a mistranslation, but I'm a devils advocate type of person anyway so who knows.

  • @VerrueckterKerl85
    @VerrueckterKerl85 24 дня назад

    I hope BSG releases the PVE version as soon as possible.
    I‘m sick of starting over and over again because of stupid „wipes“.
    As soon as PVE is available i‘m out of the „online“ version until they stop that „wipes“!

  • @thisisphteven
    @thisisphteven 24 дня назад

    I have a hard time taking anything Nikita say serious since the websites he claims they didn't change still hasn't been reverted to their original state.
    As long as the EOD description and the Season Pass description isn't reverted to what we bought, the scam is still ongoing...

  • @nick9399
    @nick9399 22 дня назад

    “Sorry I got caught”

  • @AlienEnjoyer
    @AlienEnjoyer 23 дня назад

    way back in the day, before co-op was a thing, offline tarkov used to run on your pc. you'd get lower frames bc your pc essentially was the server, handling all the calculations for the scav ai, etc etc. WHY CAN'T IT STILL BE THIS WAY??????????
    "it can't be this way bc what about all the load on your pc" p2p or "peer to peer" matchmaking has been a thing for literal decades, its the reason you can still find servers that have players on the classic modern warfare 2.

  • @The_Devil_Riser
    @The_Devil_Riser 24 дня назад

    EOD would still be around if EOD users didn’t cry about it being a limited edition because they were worried about new people paying to win

  • @hereticaljake740
    @hereticaljake740 24 дня назад

    Just do the hosting client-side for single-player, and we wouldn't have server issues with it. Sometimes it feels like they don't want solutions. Only problems, it seems.

  • @residentevil2334
    @residentevil2334 23 дня назад

    Easiest way to get into pve if it's taking more than 2 minutes back out of matchmaking and typically after 2 trys it'll load almost immediately

  • @kr4toons983
    @kr4toons983 24 дня назад +5

    So im upgrade from STD to Unheard i will not get free key ? it said for EoD upgrade . and how about me ?

    • @everythingpony
      @everythingpony 24 дня назад +3

      Yeah, EOD, not std , you didn't buy EOD so you don't get the discount

    • @undefinedxx55
      @undefinedxx55 24 дня назад

      Why do you have an std

    • @kr4toons983
      @kr4toons983 24 дня назад

      @@everythingpony I didn't mean i wand discount but i will get Free Tarkov key code like EoD will get ?

    • @kr4toons983
      @kr4toons983 24 дня назад

      @@everythingpony cuz i bought Unheard first day BSG release it

    • @TankJr.
      @TankJr. 24 дня назад +1

      @@kr4toons983 Ask the BSG support?

  • @wowawewah
    @wowawewah 24 дня назад

    Reminds me of the GOT directors who rushed it so they could move onto their other project.

  • @joaomiguelxs
    @joaomiguelxs 24 дня назад

    I played SPT for a couple of months b4 buying a Tarkov account 4 years ago, so I could get a feel for the game. Single player as a base or trial makes total sense to me. Now listen to this: it seems theres a hack going around that can find its way into a PvE co-op raid, vacuum clean all the loot and then take all that shit to a PVP for real account. off the charts insane RMT peak. Watch the Flea market.

  • @PeacefullManV
    @PeacefullManV 23 дня назад

    Question is if EOD upgrade to unheard edition will keep EOD benefits :D that probably will be question for another war.

  • @fruitpie9588
    @fruitpie9588 23 дня назад

    bro this game has given u this platform and the fans which are so dedicated watching you. you were never gonna outright never just leave the game

  • @RealBurgunfaust
    @RealBurgunfaust 23 дня назад

    "I'm sorry you feel that way," is never an apology.
    "I'm sorry I made you feel that way," is.

  • @Wdbjr12345
    @Wdbjr12345 23 дня назад

    Why does the offline mode need to be hooked to the internet? Makes no sense. I’ve played it it’s alright and it’s fun to mess around because you always get your gear back.

  • @Biggiejohn
    @Biggiejohn 24 дня назад

    Just make the wave access go from earliest support date. Very simple. Tarkov turned into a pvp community, but what attracted people at the start were gun modification fanatics who simply just wanted to kit/mod irl guns. I am one of those who has been waiting 7 years just so i can load in and kit out how I feel and give it some test play. The initial investors mainly came for the gun realism not the pvp.

  • @jvhotblast2706
    @jvhotblast2706 24 дня назад

    I still think EOD players need the radio, as its new content that we downloaded. Or just remove the radio. Unheard should just get bigger pockets, skills, starting stuff and extra rep. That seems very fair to me.

  • @alb1297
    @alb1297 18 дней назад

    Imagine we all got robbed we bought a early access game and now all this shit

  • @CallMeZer
    @CallMeZer 22 дня назад

    yeah, Im still really disappointed. It shouldnt even have gotten to this state. They always get away with making bad decisions, show that they dont care about the playerbase and then when we react bad enough they just get a slap on the wrist. Its honestly a little absurd. If I could go back I would have never gotten EoD, I cannot wait for more games to develop in this space. BSG needs to do better.

  • @stevendavies98
    @stevendavies98 23 дня назад

    There a song, and it goes something like "your only sorry you got caught", Thats BSG.

  • @jamesward2141
    @jamesward2141 24 дня назад

    It’s a good resolution to the situation, but in reality a very small percentage of players are going to waste time in pve mode

  • @fairTX
    @fairTX 22 дня назад

    brother that's not an apology. It's like they said "we're sorry you feel that way but we're gonna continue with the gaslighting."

  • @skyebaldwin3087
    @skyebaldwin3087 23 дня назад

    I'm OK with waiting for offline mode. I was annoyed about the Arena one because I still didn't get access until after wipe day. That's what annoyed me. Right now, I'm done with PVP until wipe. I'm 100% good with waiting for PvE.
    I wish this unheard edition didn't put a sour taste in my mouth. I would have spent money on cosmetics and maybe some stash lines - but I'm not buying shit until they right their wrongs. Even then I don't know. It's going to take a lot for me to even semi-trust them again.

  • @jeremygaylord6205
    @jeremygaylord6205 24 дня назад +1

    Not enough should not be 250 dollars for a pve co op. Bunch of wtfs. I'm not going to pay for co op as I already did.

  • @jonathanhonorwood4818
    @jonathanhonorwood4818 24 дня назад

    That's what I said @SheefGG: it's absolutely nonsense to put PvE behind 250$ as it is for beginners! PvE should be the cheapest Edition of the game so that curious players could test and learn the game and upgrade to PvP when they feel ready or bored. I really hope they will establish this, since most current players aren't even interested in PvE.
    Furthermore I hope BSG will sooner than later understand that the community in the first place doesn't hate Unheard due to the benefits that are excluded from EoD owners, but because of the Gamebreakers that the Unheard will bring into the Game.
    For me personally, the armor plates and less recoil feels off. I wish they would roll all lot of things back to the state previous 0.14.
    Just my two cents..

  • @jbcherry9439
    @jbcherry9439 24 дня назад +1

    is not an apology :P

  • @smudgekenobi7126
    @smudgekenobi7126 24 дня назад

    A step in the right direction I think we all agree. For myself tho, too little too late. I’ve lost faith and no longer trust BSG and it’s management. What do you guys feel?

  • @CrisURace
    @CrisURace 23 дня назад

    waiting in queue for an "offline" mode is outrageously bad design.. should be complete client side unless you wanna coop.

  • @collinhumphreys5308
    @collinhumphreys5308 23 дня назад

    Nikita can barely speak english, I dont think he intentionally meant to say "sorry you feel that way". there's a pretty significant language barrier here that I think most people are purposely ignoring.

  • @ItsShagZ
    @ItsShagZ 24 дня назад

    they dont NEED any servers for Solo/coop mode..... they could just code it to where the HOST is the HOST and use their PC

  • @zeusminion0839
    @zeusminion0839 23 дня назад

    What scope was he using?

  • @dr.polansky4192
    @dr.polansky4192 23 дня назад

    so if i cry enough about how ferrari is too expensive, too fast and i think i should have it, they will give me one?

  • @LarryTheStrongsGamingChannel
    @LarryTheStrongsGamingChannel 24 дня назад +6

    How are you going to take this as a win? I purchased EOD as a limited edition and that shit was purchasable for YEARS after. Then they release a "better" version, while excluding their previous EOD owners. It's not about the money, it's about them trying to pull the wool over our eyes and expecting us to just take it. Nikita has done nothing but make excuses in his "apology" posts. We have an incompetent developer team working on this game. They've spread themselves too thin. With Raid, arena, and whatever other side projects Nikita and the team waste their time and company funds on.

    • @user-ye2vn4dh8h
      @user-ye2vn4dh8h 23 дня назад

      Cry about it kid

    • @FriesOnYt
      @FriesOnYt 23 дня назад +1

      did you have a problem when the pestily interview happened and nikita literally said a better edition than EoD was on the way? i recall about 0 people shitting their pants about it then. i feel like eod players are entitled to the Pve mode andd that's it. if something is better than Eod there's gotta be a reason to buy aka something EoD doesn't have

    • @fkboyStalin
      @fkboyStalin 23 дня назад

      you were part of the issue, EOD was obvious that they'd do a cash grab, in game bonuses for out of game cash based off a tier system, wow how surprised am I that they'll add new more expensive tiers that affect gameplay, EOD players caused this and then are surprised when they have to deal with it, maybe, just fucking maybe, let's not as a community be okay with them having a "limited time" item for 7 years while giving in game bonuses for buying it, it was never a supporters pack, it was a pay to win pack and it's that fucking obvious.
      like imagine complaining that it's "because the wool is being pulled over our eyes" when you were just fine with EOD, you were fine with in game bonuses based off a tier system before, but now that there's a new shiny tier with it's own specialties, you guys feel entitled without acknowledging that you yourself are the catalyst that allowed the issue to happen at all, you supporting this system is what kept the system going dumbass, you're just mad that the sun is really bright now that the wool is off, not that it's going back on, you hate what you see, not THAT you see.

    • @LarryTheStrongsGamingChannel
      @LarryTheStrongsGamingChannel 23 дня назад

      @@FriesOnYt Yea of course I had an issue with it. I also had an issue with the stash enhancement and the clothing being purchasable too. That was their way of testing the waters. As soon as Nikita mentioned it in the podcast I got scared of what he'd try next and here it is.

    • @FriesOnYt
      @FriesOnYt 23 дня назад

      @@LarryTheStrongsGamingChannel if you had an issue with stash enhancement why would you buy EoD?

  • @Triso86XT
    @Triso86XT 23 дня назад

    Can somebody explain me how he PvE impacts the PvP? You can make progress in PvE (level, perception and so on) and you could use this when you go into PvP?

  • @chancejensen4355
    @chancejensen4355 24 дня назад

    Okay, well we need to pump the brakes on the witch hunt. Everyone should establish what would satisfy the community after this rather than just "THIS ISNT GOOD ENOUGH" till the end of time.

  • @OG__GreenCrack
    @OG__GreenCrack 24 дня назад

    On an entirely different note, hopefully they progress the way they’ve been today and they start making the right moves for everyone. The only thing is when the creators come back in time hopefully they spark an improvement on the PvE flea and other AI functionality bullshit, the PvE is an ass mode to be honest in its current state with a highly inflated flea and retarded aimbot like AI all over getting the stupidest kills. I bought it because I have nothing else to play and just wanted to play with friends but I haven’t ever gotten 1 hit in the armpit by 9x18 at any point in the game. This also comes with the decrease in the armpit hitbox and I get shot by a baby round in one hit and same shit happened with buddies, there’s just so much that needs to be fixed in all areas of Tarkov that it really makes me lose faith in them even being able to fix these things.

  • @CrityCrit
    @CrityCrit 23 дня назад +1

    You spent $100 then they give you a key for the game LMAOOOOO That is legit the worse thing they’ve pulled so far.

  • @DylanKreutzer
    @DylanKreutzer 22 дня назад

    The part that I'm most pissed about is how pay to win the Unheard edition is. It is way worse than the EOD perks ever were.

  • @machine_fg3437
    @machine_fg3437 23 дня назад

    now what they need to do is lower the price of the edition

  • @tikasauer
    @tikasauer 23 дня назад

    A 250$ "Extra Extra" version, from a game that have the same bugs since 2016, glitches and cheaters

  • @Tyler-sl6vg
    @Tyler-sl6vg 24 дня назад

    It's nice to see another content creator speaking about the situation without utter animosity.

  • @MadCatMan699
    @MadCatMan699 24 дня назад +1

    f the pve my buddy got it and it looks boring af..... its literally just shitty raiders.i want the pockets, stash size and with guns/boxes.... thats why i paid for EoD