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It's fvcked up i feel bad for the Tarkov players, I just play single-player games primarily. I haven't had to deal with heavy anti-consumer practices like this in a long time. Every time one company fvcks up, another comes to top it.
The thing is, it is more than $250 due to tax. It is more like $300. I did buy the EOD Edition back in 2016, but the conversion rate bugged (it showed the £ being worth way more than it actually was) and I got it for $63. I have something like 3,000 hours on EFT, so I got my $60 worth, but I never did get my in-game alpha armband despite playing the alpha a whole year before the game went into closed beta. I tried contacting support about it, but they told me to stop wasting their time. If you didn't get the alpha armband, it means you didn't buy the game by 2017. I sent them a screenshot of my receipt for the game that says I purchased it on June 1st, 2016. They immediately closed my ticket and blacklisted my email 😂🤣💀
I have wanted to play offline and in single player in this game for years. I will be happy to give them $500 for finally making a game that is fun to play.
They filed an extension on their taxes. This reads Bankruptcy -> Cash grab to break even -> sell out to AAA studio and resurface the team members in a different indie project 3 years later after the dust settles
arena breakout coming to pc makes me so fucking excited. Hate the way tarkov plays now i really do and im sad im not good enough at mobile to enjoy arena breakout. so its an excitedment for me.
They gonna get it with all the new players. This is a huge chance for them especially with their financial backing they could take over tarkov for real
48 here and I´ve been pissed with them since their older games and ending allways with them ruinning it completely!Like selling hacks to players to support their next game!!
As someone that purchased Edge of Darkness back in 2017, i have long since given up on Tarkov. The game was stuck in an infinite loop of being milked by its devs and will never be what it was once hoped to be
@@sangheilizealot5787 He said early on, not nowadays. And yeah, early on every cheat provider in existence (and everyone with knowledge and spare time for that matter) threw out cheap or free tarkov cheats as everything had been clientside - so people had been solely flying around with godmode and aimbot for the first few weeks.
@@sangheilizealot5787 Oh look, another naive dumbo. If you think the servers are clean you're so bad at the game that you can't differentiate between a legit death and vice versa. Eft is cheater infested. It's a fact at this point.
I got mine at around December 2016 and bought it for my brother so we both get instant access to alpha testing, man the good days I still remember playing it for the first time that music and the lightbulb background in the menu was so nostalgic
@@BRAVOALFA007 I miss JustEmuTarkov. You didn't need to purchase Tarkov. Plus there was Altered Escape which expanded on the singleplayer experience. Good times, good times.
Cash grabbing in my Unreleased Beta game btw. Game began to die when their response to hatchet runners was to have the AI run across the map just to mow them down. Their decisions have always been unreasonable and never worked in the long run. Them removing the verbiage that EOD would receive future DLC is criminal and they should be prosecuted for it.
~$385AUD ~$420NZD Unless you're including GST. Pathetically overpriced either way. You could get over 2 years of Humble Choice for less than that and end up with at least a couple of dozen good games on top of the hundred or so others you could resell. BSG are basically admitting defeat and trying to cash out on their current community rather than continuing to grow and improve the game.
"INCLUDES ACCESS TO ALL SUBSEQUENT DLC's" "SEASON PASS" from their own website - "The Season pass is access to additional paid content (DLC) that will not need to be purchased separately by Season pass holders. The Season Pass is only included with the Edge of Darkness and The Unheard Edition pre-order package."
It doesnt even make sense. At that point why would anyone even start playing it knowing its gonna be locked in 6 months? The whole point is its for people who are busy and cant grind as much and dont want wipes so that they can progress over a long period.
@@mezzops1716a lot of then you can just change the version in the config and it works just fine again, but idk about the new 3.8 patch, after 3.5 a lot of mods did officially break
It's more than $250, because they don't include taxes in the display price, but you can't see the final price unless you create an account on their site. So everyone says that it's $250, when it's actually more like $300-350 after taxes, depending on your region. Same for the upgrade from Edge of Darkness edition, it's not just $100 but more like $125-150.
@@johnmehlman5195 Take Hungary for example: their VAT IS 27% so 250$ becomes 317$(and that's just VAT, not including processing fees depending on the payment system used). Another example I've seen was someone from Australia saying it was over 380$ for them(I can't verify this as I'm not Australian).
You know what's crazy? They could've just took that co-op version with saved progression, slapped a $45 price tag on it, add some bonuses to bump it up for $60 and people would've ate it up. They could've done *anything else* and it would've been better.
@@monkgaming651 Clearly not, cuz basically everyone is calling this out for the scam that it is. Instead of selling potentially thousands of copies worth $44.99 or more they decided to sell $250 copies to probably like 3 people.
@@fisherthegoat the sad reality is that it will be far more than 3 people and yes it was a scam from the beginning. They just showed everyone that they never really cared and it was all focused on making money
@@monkgaming651 Maybe but for every purchase of the unheard there wouldve been 10 or more purchases of the other editions if theyd released it to everyone. I agree that their focus is making money im just pointing out the stupidity. They would've made way more by making it cheaper
@@fisherthegoat This downfall was inevitable though. When Tarkov was in its beginning stages i was laughed at, flamed, yelled at and banned from multiple forums for saying the game is a cash grab that won't last long and the system of how it works is based on making money and not having the game stable. I told everyone about cheaters and i was shut down YEARS AGO for saying there even are cheaters. I was laughed at and told to "git gud". NO ONE was hearing me when i said it will only get worse and there will only be more cheaters and i was told i'm delusional and it's "not that bad". Now i have the final laugh. But no one knows me. I'm still the crazy delusional guy who speaks nonsense even though i was right about everything and predicted the entire thing IN DETAIL, YEARS before it happened.
BSG is struggling financially big time, they took a gamble with the arena, it didn't pan out (not that it excuses anything that's currently happening ofc)
@@Gapis321 Arena was the same gameplay just a different mode and a couple small maps, its legit all the same assets, why are you acting as if Arenas was the huge costly innovation. It was Tarkov but teams and in a tiny map lol. These rats are just greedy.
@@josephpuentes7576 It was the marketing around Arena. Someone on RUclips made a breakdown of what it might have cost. They were at some Events with an Arena booth. And that thing was pretty expenso. So no, the development of Arena wasn't expensive. But the marketing.
They also removed that EOD came with arena access....they also removed old dev blogs from their youtube that covered EOD accounts and what not. Fucking shameful man.
I love how their stated reason for PVE is that it'll take server space. Literally just have the inventories be the only server side thing boom done. Peer to Peer would probably be an upgrade to their servers for combat anyways.
What a shame, glad I gave up on Tarkov a few years ago and I bought the eod in 2017 and have well over 8k hours on the game. Charging for features like the distress beacon that we’re talked about being in game since 2016 is fucking ridiculous
*quickly making it after they got competition in that area and selling it for more than 10x the price a certain early access game that released earlier this month costs
@@anonimus370 Incursion Red River, which was previously in development under the name Project Quarantine as a standalone tarkov coop experience for 2 years or so (and then got rebuilt from the ground up in the past months - one of the first announced titles). BSG only saw that it sells and decided to quickly put together a coop mode as well and sell it absolutely overpriced - sole reason IRR exists is because they went from "we'll make a coop mode later for everyone" to "we won't make a coop mode", Incursion released for 13$ and is now like 16.50 without the release sale in pre-alpha, absolutely solid title for coop even tho still missing a lot given it's state obviously. Also the IRR team supports modding, which already is a huge step up, a few smaller mods already released, not sure if anything big will release before the actual medic system (or an early adaptation for it) is going to get an official release tho.
Nah, they could've just stopped updating it. Would've killed it just as much. Doing this was a desperate money grab because they're broke and probably don't even have money for artists so they couldn't go the cosmetic microtransactions route.
GOOD that means this game might actually be good and worth playing. Tarkov is garbage because of how quick you die form one shot without ever seeing the person that shot at you. That is why I am glad to hear about single player version of Tarkov so I can play it with mods and ACTUALLY HAVE FUN without fear of getting shot from something that was not actually there or able to hit me.
@@Cstr0yer A game with working body armor? That would be a first. Sadly games like Tarkov think even level 4 plates are made of paper and never stop anything. I hope this game get armor right unlike every other game ever made.
@@robertsears8323 If you wanna give it a shot, the game originally came out on mobile and it has controller support, and don't worry, from the video the PC version does *NOT* just look like a lazy port ;D
looks like a class action lawsuit is in BSGs future. You cant say you get access to all future dlc after paying $150 and then make a new edition just to not give away that DLC to people that paid that much money.
Single player/Coop PVE should be a basic feature for everyone, not a DLC or a feature for an incredibly expensive edition. This is so asinine and greedy on Battlestate behalf to lock such a simple thing behind a huge paywall.
@@Mr.Grinns It's all the whales and cheaters. You'll be surprised how many cheaters have always plagued the official discord channels. The amount of times I have accidently grouped up with cheaters on that discord while looking for randoms to play and quest with is crazy.
I feel like this is an exit strategy. They're going to rake in as much as possible before they shut it all down. They've been consistent about not adding PVE, and now suddenly they are releasing it for 250$? Sketch af.
I am so glad you made this video. Literally just yesterday I was thinking about Tarkov. I stopped playing a few years back. Right before Lighthouse came out. I think a big part of it was that I started playing with some friends, and they were taking it really seriously. We started building the bases and going for high ticket items and missions. But I kind of just liked having fun with the game. Before I got them into it, I wasn't rich, but I was loving it. Then streamers were beating the entire thing in a weak, so they started raising the requirements for everything, and I felt like I was no longer making progress. And they kept talking about the new map, but weren't releasing it because we needed vest #294. And just a whole list of things I was getting tired of But I thought maybe I could have some fun with it again. See what's up... Now I've lost interest. Meanwhile, I've played quite a bit of Arena Breakout on my phone. It did feel like just the mobile Tarkov. So if they can make a good PC version, I'm down for supporting them.
I love how the video is sponsored by Arena Breakout when they've been absolutely throttling Tarkov on twitter with their marketing hilariously mocking them for this. Its a chef's kiss and i hope Arena Breakout the best. This has got to be one of my favorite sponsorships given the context of everything
SAME!!! I've been playing games for 27yrs and the PVP player base has turned to mostly toxic garbage players the last several years. I want no part of PVP anymore! Give me PVE or CO-OP or I'm not interested.
Scary thing is people will pay the 250 dollars for it, I also bet alot of the main RUclipsrs) streamers who are complaining about this update will also pay it. They should just make a offline version no extra features, just offline with no wipe for like £20
Slight correction, the SPT ( Single Plater Tarkov ) mod is single player only, there is no coop. You connect to a virtual server on your own machine that you have to start first in order to be able to play. You are risking nothing with it, ( Klean literally plays it on twitch lol ) its in a whole separate folder and you must have the original game for it to work. It needs an installed LIVE version but it copies it over to a different folder ( drive if you want ) therefore does not modify anything in your live forlder.
once again, a comment that mentions the truth about SPT gets very few responses. the hype kids these days seem to enjoy the blankets over their eyes. everyone has always been allowed to play or stream SPT, they just can't promote the way to get it up and running to avoid a strike.
@@Usedtobedc It's their loss mate, I enjoy SPT a lot. It's extremely customizable, some of the AI mod is really fun to play around with, you can add and remove stuff at your pleasure, mods like the realism mod makes it a lot more punishing than Live ever been and it fixes a lot of neglected issues with the game. Let them kids play with the cheaters frothing from the mouth I really coudlnt care less lol Also with the installer its not tat difficult to make it work even they could do it lol. Just drop the .exe into the folder you want to install SPT to and press enter, wait 5 mins then play.
I find it very strange that an offline PVE mode is not just part of the main base game. You should not have to spend 150 (or 250!) dollars to be able to get a coop/offline PVE mode in this Beta. Doesn't make any sense.
@@jonathanoriley8260Thats the thing,There is no Pay to win,even tho you got IHPS full face helmets or RST blast Chestplate,if you dont have skills and lucks,you are nothing
The fact that it's called the "Unheard" edition is so painfully ironic. It's not even a good name on its own - it just feels like BSG deliberately chose the most tone-deaf name they could possibly go with.
@@Kazanko28 To be FAIR, I bought that because I was under the (false) impression that I would be getting ALL future content for the game, At the time I was way more invested in the game., the PVE mode was going to bring me and my Brothers back in.
Funniest thing i just learned. The unheard unique melee weapon... IS A FUCKING ASSET FROM THE STORE.....i mean the memes are writing itself. Don't know where i saw it, but i laughed so fucking hard when i saw it. Did not confirm it myself, but if it is true DUDE. I loved this game back in the day. I waited for the modular armor. And now they fucked it all, so sad to see.
SPT has been a great time. There’s some talented people over there just… making things. As an EOD owner who hasn’t played LIVE seriously in a while it still feels like a slap in the face & I am glad to have been playing SPT for so long & enjoying a different experience.
Wait a minute… The trailer said “play offline with your friends”. Wasnt one of their supposed major price justifications the fact that you still had to play online on their servers? So is it false advertising or were they lying about it still needing to be online on their servers?
Correct. Nikita said in the 2nd "apology" post that the reason it was behind the pay wall was because the "offline" coop was played through BSG's internal servers which didn't have much space. Which is bullshit lmao
@@user-to1su2iy4d Where does it not matter? It's why some people bought it, same as people who bought it because at the start they said they'd bring back the coop mode, just to shift to not wanting to do that and now we're here: A lazy cash grab because they got competition that doesn't even cost close to half the price now - and people buy it regardless to "support the devs".
There are people that see problems in opportunitites and people who see opportunitites in problems. I'd say there's a bunch of potential customers now looking for a new extraction shooter.
"It ain't DLC, its unique feature of the new edition added" - I feel like I have heard Russians say something similar.... oh yeah: "It's not a war, it's a special military operation!" 😅
What makes his statement moronic is that it's not even a unique feature. They added training/offline coop raids around 2 years ago IIRC, but with no progression. They literally added couple of lines of code here to add progression to an already existing few years old mode.
Considering this company supports and possibly funds the war, it wouldnt surprise me at all if they took notes. Their game is also chock full of anti Ukraine propaganda.
@@VenatorX7 Ye, they added coop practice mode for sale as an expansion in february for standard edition owners. I almost bought that with a friend yesterday for 10€ thinking it was the coop mode because we didn't keep up with the game, I honestly feel sorry for anyone that didn't double check and bought it expecting that it's the new coop mode...
Technically speaking it is a special military operation because there is no formal declaration of war for either side and the scope of objectives was quite limited.
There is no coming back, no matter what they do, no matter how they fix this, the damage is done. BSG has failed as a company, and tarkov is dying. It's over, and nothing can save it. We've seen it for a while, how the game was failing, its just more evident now more than it ever was before
something you forgot to mention the part were landmark was talking about the ''unique'' part of the text they also changed the wording of the DLC part Free access to all subsequent DLC (Season pass) and it USED to be Free access to all subsequent DLC (Season pass) SUCH AS EFT ARENA. this change from what i can tell means that if you buy the 250$ pack you dont even get access to arena (which is a bad game but still)
@@zemotika just uninstalled and took the launcher off too. Fuck this bullshit, it's about time people did something back to these greedy people. Yes they are companies but they are also people making decisions. To all the people paying £250 for this it's you i feel bad for the most. £250 for some extra shit in a dying game that has literally just axed it's own hand and foot is pathetic. Enjoy paying half of a decent laptop cost just to play with cheaters.
🤔 It should be expected this game was like a hundred something dollars to get in early access and they continue pricing new content like that. The community should vote with they're wallets.
@softcocoa7794 nonits facts. Australia doesnt exist. Nobody has proven its existence. However, Australia doesnt exist but its still more real than Ukraine
STOP SPREADING THE BAN RUMOR OF SPT For Singleplayer Tarkov (SPT) you can’t get banned as long as you have a legit copy of EFT and you never run EFT and SPT at the same time. Stay in Tarkov (SIT) is the unofficial co-op mod of SPT btw.
notice how many responses the inaccurate hype gets? how many times do these hype kids say 250$ when not a single owner of any version of EFT will ever pay close to that, and how many times do the negative hype kids say SPT gets a ban when it has never banned anyone?
Hey Bigfry! Great video. I have played only SPTarkov since it became available, I don't have time to "Git Gud". I have always wanted to play PVE co-op with my dad, but there is absolutely no way I will pay this much for it. I would pay alot, but not $250! I guess I will just play Incursion Red River and SPTarkov.
Also something no one is talking about is Flea Market slots, BSG took away flea slots to prevent cheaters but now you can buy them with the $250 addition!!!
Because this is for them. They are well aware who buys more accounts and how big their pockets are. They are milking them because they know they will never win against them.
Amazing video, just a quick nit-pick at the start though. To help clear things up, specifically in regards to SPT and SIT. SPT does *not* equal SIT, SIT only uses the Server backend of SPT, otherwise known as AKI. SIT isn't affiliated with SPT, this is why that distinction is important. SPT does *not* have coop in any form or style, it doesn't support any form of multiplayer and never, ever will. SIT or Stay In Tarkov, is a separate mod for Tarkov which aims to create the CooP version of SPT. So if you want singleplayer and the latest version consistently, go with SPT. If you want CooP, go with SIT. You cannot mix and match them. Same with mods. You cannot and WILL NOT get banned, or reprimanded for playing or using either SPT or SIT. Anyone who says otherwise lacks an understanding of how Tarkov works and the legal grey area both SPT and SIT stand. In order for you to be ' caught' playing SPT/SIT you would need to inform BSG directly; providing them your BSG account name and confirming that you indeed play SPT/SIT. BSG taking action on this naturally would result in much more backlash as well, as again, word of mouth, even if it's admition isn't exactly direct evidence. There is no connection between Tarkov and SIT/SPT, they are completely separate entities, you can play SPT/SIT without even having an ethernet cable plugged into your PC. As it is completely self hosted using AKI_Server. Which isn't BSG owned. Some merit could be made to the argument that running SPT/SIT and your BSG launcher at the same time may be 'risky' as software can see other software that's running. This could be true, but is intrusive for software to do, and would need to be announced in a patch lest BSG receive more backlash. Ontop of this, why? Like just why run both? BSG launcher is a resource hog to begin with, plus you already kinda do, since you use BSG launcher to update the game when you need to update one of the mods. So where is the risk?! For you, the end user? Nothing, not a ban, not even a stern warning. Instead what's more likely, is eventually if BSG can calm the storm, they may take legal action against both SPT/SIT and have them stop working on the titles. And that's it. The end. Your copy, of whatever version of the game, will function for the rest of eternity and BSG will actively never know.
The reason I say this is people shouldn't be *afraid* of SPT/SIT. Don't be scared to learn how to install and play both mods. The more people on-board, the more likely BSG might actually do something good for once in this entire development cycle of Tarkov. Or they'll burn to the ground trying. In the end people say, 'this wipe is the best' or 'this update is the best' or 'Tarkov is good now this time' No guys. I'm tired of hearing this almost every new wipe. Or every major update change. The game is hot garbage. It was hot garbage in 2017 and it's in many ways arguably worse now. Nothing more than wasted potential. I don't think the armor changes, the economic changes, or even the recoil changes had any affect on the core problems that Tarkov suffers. And if anything only introduced more issues and problems. Hell. When they changed the armor; certain sets where missing entire armor areas. And here we are thinking yah; "I'm sure the hit-boxes are fine, I'm sure the net-code is fine." I assure you. It's not. They can barely add new armor areas and not break things as a result, I can't imagine the mess of spaghetti code that's under Tarkovs hood at this point. I would've said five years ago, and I'll say it now. Tarkov needs fixes and balances and QOL. *new* need to be put on a long, looong hold. But no. We get new maps that are mid, new bosses that as usual are broken and just annoying to deal with, instead we get new broken armor systems which oh I'm suuure it's playing well with the default standard hit-boxes the actual player, instead we get a map for newbies that turned out to be anything but, as well as broken running animations and floating guns. I'd like a team on RUclips to start actually fully play testing Tarkov, cause clearly the devs dont. Cause I just doubt that there aren't more undiscovered problems.
correct. you can play co-op with friends on SIT. Though I wouldn't be shocked to see the two projects go ahead and merge if this shitstorm keeps going to the end.
@@Adam14319 it has a few small issues out of the box, but with a couple mods (sain+donuts, looting bots and a few others) it offers a good experience. I use a customized version of the docker image they have on github hosted on a truenas box in my house that friends and I have played on for a few months when we got tired of hackers & those with more time to play on tarkov live and its been as good if not a better experience than live.
Gamers can be very entitled. Look how they currently are celebrating the idea of pirating Ubisoft titles. Not playing a game or boycotting a studio? No way. They still gotta get those hyped up AAA games so they can feel like they belong and can still participate in discussions. Bunch of hypocrites if you ask me. The cringe level goes even further through the roof when they call themselves "game preservers" or "Internet archivists" or somesuch. Holy sh*t do they need to touch grass badly.
You’ve been waiting for this moment ever since they fucked you over in beta lmao. I backed them day one via EOD and got access to the A.I with progress before they removed it. So funny the very first feature I got to test got removed and re-added later and they’re asking me for another $100 for it. A spit in the face.
As long as you don't stream SPT or save it to the same folder as LIVE EFT (which idk why you'd have installed at this point) they wont ban you as its a separate download of eft and doesn't connect to their servers edit: I also feel like editing what a past edition gets the user sets them up for a lawsuit as players aren't getting what they bought into... I hope they get sued
Actually wrote XSolla for a complete refund and the german consumer office. Usually i should be safe as someone from Germany regarding that kinda stuff. Well let's see if XSolla does something otherwise next stage will be paypal.
Good luck with that, getting refunds from paypal is really, really hard nowadays given the amount of people that just instantly charged back money after ordering something in the past years. If your purchase is older I'd say it's probably even impossible.
@@Unknown_Genius Yeh but still worth a try even if nothing comes out of it. Also alot of people seem to try it so maybe some sort of consequences are coming out of it like paypal Blocking it for awhile or XSolla who knows. Better than doing nothing.
I'm taking the money that I could have spent on the unheard edition and buying the most expensive addition of grey zone warfare, just to say FU to tarkov. Who else is doing this? 🤝
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This has to be illegal right?… right???
cheat, sell your service as backup. wait in lobby, get in, kill everyone, ez money
It's fvcked up i feel bad for the Tarkov players, I just play single-player games primarily. I haven't had to deal with heavy anti-consumer practices like this in a long time. Every time one company fvcks up, another comes to top it.
i think arena breakout is total dogshit but i support you gettin that bag. gotta pay the bills somehow jej
Seems pretty legal to slap a lifetime buy on something and have it last 6 months. Thats fs not ganna change at all...
BSG: shoots self in foot
*reloads
BSG: shoots self in other foot
More like shoots themselves in the foot and then the other foot with a bazooka lol.
@@xlM3RCxl More like placing to landmines in fron of you, and then jump up in the air and land with your feet on both of them at the same time.
Welcome to Tarkov 😆
BSG stands for Bullsh!t Games right?
They only had to shoot themselves twice cause the first hit didn't register
Their discord mods changing their names to things like “$100 DLC to view name”
$100 DLC to DLC
That’s epic I support that
@@driverjamescopeland Pay2Win more like Pay2Pay
@helpumuch6887 yeah, most of the mods are pretty cool and are just players that have been in the community for a while so they're just as upset as us
@@tacticaltoaster5777 love when a community comes together to hate on greedy scumbags
"Get F***ed Edition" would've been more appropriate but "Unheard Edition" is pretty accurate too.
"The Unheard" isn't that a little too on the nose? like are they just fucking with their customer base at this point?
PMC: BSG - Left Foot
PMC: Nikita - Left Foot
PMC: Unheard - Head, Eyes
Shot themselves in…
The thing is, it is more than $250 due to tax. It is more like $300. I did buy the EOD Edition back in 2016, but the conversion rate bugged (it showed the £ being worth way more than it actually was) and I got it for $63. I have something like 3,000 hours on EFT, so I got my $60 worth, but I never did get my in-game alpha armband despite playing the alpha a whole year before the game went into closed beta. I tried contacting support about it, but they told me to stop wasting their time. If you didn't get the alpha armband, it means you didn't buy the game by 2017. I sent them a screenshot of my receipt for the game that says I purchased it on June 1st, 2016. They immediately closed my ticket and blacklisted my email 😂🤣💀
Thats russian customer support for you
Glad I sniffed out the trash heap from the start
I have wanted to play offline and in single player in this game for years. I will be happy to give them $500 for finally making a game that is fun to play.
@@robertsears8323just send me the 500 instead yo, my vet bills are insane 😭
They filed an extension on their taxes. This reads Bankruptcy -> Cash grab to break even -> sell out to AAA studio and resurface the team members in a different indie project 3 years later after the dust settles
Sounds about right.
To whom you sell a dead horse??
@@AndiKoehnEa, Ubisoft, Blizzard..modern game studios seem to have no problems with dead horses
@@casa4817 depends on how much they gonna charge I guess.
I'm gonna watch pestily's interview with nikita 2 weeks back again and see if I notice any "tells" in nikitas demeanour. What a scumbag.
PR team for Arena Breakout deserves a raise for sponsoring this 😂😂😂
arena breakout coming to pc makes me so fucking excited. Hate the way tarkov plays now i really do and im sad im not good enough at mobile to enjoy arena breakout. so its an excitedment for me.
hilarious lmao it is a massive W for them
The where so ready to pull the trigger
They gonna get it with all the new players. This is a huge chance for them especially with their financial backing they could take over tarkov for real
I’ve avoided tarkov for years, partially cuz of stank rat but GOD DAMN these devs are evil mfs
At least battlestate named the bundle right because they really haven’t heard shit we’ve been saying.
Heretofore Unheard scumbags
Underrated comment
Thy hear you, thy don't give a fuck
This is one of the best comments I’ve seen on this 😂
@@kevinkev1530
They hear you, they don't want to though
I’m 42 yo, I’ve been a gamer all my life, and never have I been as pissed at a company for being idiots 😂
48 here and I´ve been pissed with them since their older games and ending allways with them ruinning it completely!Like selling hacks to players to support their next game!!
Still in beta on PC, but missing those weather mechanics. Can't wait to unleash some stormy chaos like on mobile! Bring on the thunder, devs
"This new game is going to be a Tarkov killer!"
My brother in Christ, Tarkov is the Tarkiv killer
Well said.
I never thought it would end up this way. When I hear people say “the new tarkov killer” I feel so proud about my fave game. But now, dammit!
As someone that purchased Edge of Darkness back in 2017, i have long since given up on Tarkov. The game was stuck in an infinite loop of being milked by its devs and will never be what it was once hoped to be
@@35751W Which server ? EUW is pretty clean.
@@sangheilizealot5787 He said early on, not nowadays.
And yeah, early on every cheat provider in existence (and everyone with knowledge and spare time for that matter) threw out cheap or free tarkov cheats as everything had been clientside - so people had been solely flying around with godmode and aimbot for the first few weeks.
Same man. 4k hours and the best were several years ago...
@@sangheilizealot5787 Oh look, another naive dumbo. If you think the servers are clean you're so bad at the game that you can't differentiate between a legit death and vice versa.
Eft is cheater infested. It's a fact at this point.
I got mine at around December 2016 and bought it for my brother so we both get instant access to alpha testing, man the good days I still remember playing it for the first time that music and the lightbulb background in the menu was so nostalgic
I want to play tarkov with only bots, but I will never pay 250 fucking dollars for it.
Play spt instead, free mod for the game, it's amazing
@@jdakiller1017 Do I need to buy a copy of tarkov to play that? Because I have never played it before.
@@BRAVOALFA007 yeah but the regular version works fine
@@BRAVOALFA007 I miss JustEmuTarkov. You didn't need to purchase Tarkov. Plus there was Altered Escape which expanded on the singleplayer experience. Good times, good times.
@@BRAVOALFA007to play spt yes you do. But just the basic version
Cash grabbing in my Unreleased Beta game btw. Game began to die when their response to hatchet runners was to have the AI run across the map just to mow them down. Their decisions have always been unreasonable and never worked in the long run.
Them removing the verbiage that EOD would receive future DLC is criminal and they should be prosecuted for it.
Just remember, This is $415 in Australia that $250 pack. They know what they can do with that $415 pack.
Yeah they sure do to shove it up their ass bro it’s $421 NZD crazy shit man
~$385AUD
~$420NZD
Unless you're including GST.
Pathetically overpriced either way. You could get over 2 years of Humble Choice for less than that and end up with at least a couple of dozen good games on top of the hundred or so others you could resell.
BSG are basically admitting defeat and trying to cash out on their current community rather than continuing to grow and improve the game.
I dont even play Tarkov and Im still pissed that they did this to the players, absolute disgrace and the game deserves to go bust
Same here. If that's goin to have no serious consequences than pray for the whole gaming industry...
limited for 6 months for co op for eod owners is crazy thats gonna piss them off more
yes it does !been playing eft since closed alpha,this is beyond outrageous
"INCLUDES ACCESS TO ALL SUBSEQUENT DLC's" "SEASON PASS" from their own website - "The Season pass is access to additional paid content (DLC) that will not need to be purchased separately by Season pass holders. The Season Pass is only included with the Edge of Darkness and The Unheard Edition pre-order package."
It doesnt even make sense. At that point why would anyone even start playing it knowing its gonna be locked in 6 months? The whole point is its for people who are busy and cant grind as much and dont want wipes so that they can progress over a long period.
for Offline* Co-OP, not even the online version
Did
Ever since SPTarkov, I havent played Live tarkov
Same here. Today is three weeks on SPT for me, and there's no going back.
only thing that sucks is they take forever to update the mod when theres a new live version out
Bro just spent a day playing after this bs and it's more fun than live tarkov.
Same, though I kinda wish there was a proper PVE co-op mod out there.
@@mezzops1716a lot of then you can just change the version in the config and it works just fine again, but idk about the new 3.8 patch, after 3.5 a lot of mods did officially break
Jumped from mobile to PC for a taste of everything Arena Breakout has to offer. Insanely fun features to explore
It's more than $250, because they don't include taxes in the display price, but you can't see the final price unless you create an account on their site.
So everyone says that it's $250, when it's actually more like $300-350 after taxes, depending on your region. Same for the upgrade from Edge of Darkness edition, it's not just $100 but more like $125-150.
Taxes can take the price up another $100? Damn
@@johnmehlman5195 It's a combination of taxes and regional pricing.
@@johnmehlman5195 Take Hungary for example: their VAT IS 27% so 250$ becomes 317$(and that's just VAT, not including processing fees depending on the payment system used). Another example I've seen was someone from Australia saying it was over 380$ for them(I can't verify this as I'm not Australian).
@@AndYou.01 ouch, i knew exchange rates where bad but jesus christ
For me it would be 310 euros plus processing fees. With that price I could either eat whole month or starve whole month. Will Nikita buy me food?
escape from greed. Betrayal edition
Escape from Poor, get a job edition
@@KermitTheFlogga You cannot be serious right? Is not allways about the money...
Maybe they found their whales
@@KermitTheFloggaits not about the money. You can be rich and not spend your money in total scam that shound't have been right?
@@KermitTheFloggaEscape from school, Dumbass Edition
@@KermitTheFlogga BullShitGames bootlicker
You know what's crazy? They could've just took that co-op version with saved progression, slapped a $45 price tag on it, add some bonuses to bump it up for $60 and people would've ate it up.
They could've done *anything else* and it would've been better.
This is why it's problem. Because people will pay anything
@@monkgaming651 Clearly not, cuz basically everyone is calling this out for the scam that it is. Instead of selling potentially thousands of copies worth $44.99 or more they decided to sell $250 copies to probably like 3 people.
@@fisherthegoat the sad reality is that it will be far more than 3 people and yes it was a scam from the beginning. They just showed everyone that they never really cared and it was all focused on making money
@@monkgaming651 Maybe but for every purchase of the unheard there wouldve been 10 or more purchases of the other editions if theyd released it to everyone. I agree that their focus is making money im just pointing out the stupidity. They would've made way more by making it cheaper
@@fisherthegoat This downfall was inevitable though. When Tarkov was in its beginning stages i was laughed at, flamed, yelled at and banned from multiple forums for saying the game is a cash grab that won't last long and the system of how it works is based on making money and not having the game stable. I told everyone about cheaters and i was shut down YEARS AGO for saying there even are cheaters. I was laughed at and told to "git gud". NO ONE was hearing me when i said it will only get worse and there will only be more cheaters and i was told i'm delusional and it's "not that bad". Now i have the final laugh. But no one knows me. I'm still the crazy delusional guy who speaks nonsense even though i was right about everything and predicted the entire thing IN DETAIL, YEARS before it happened.
This one's sad. The greed is insane
BSG is struggling financially big time, they took a gamble with the arena, it didn't pan out (not that it excuses anything that's currently happening ofc)
@@Gapis321 There are so many other ways to alleviate financial struggle, especially with a loyal community
@@VoyagersRevenge I don't disagree!
@@Gapis321 Arena was the same gameplay just a different mode and a couple small maps, its legit all the same assets, why are you acting as if Arenas was the huge costly innovation. It was Tarkov but teams and in a tiny map lol. These rats are just greedy.
@@josephpuentes7576 It was the marketing around Arena. Someone on RUclips made a breakdown of what it might have cost. They were at some Events with an Arena booth. And that thing was pretty expenso.
So no, the development of Arena wasn't expensive. But the marketing.
Arena Breakout did not miss an opportunity to sponsor a warhead aimed at Tarkov.
PC quality's solidno doubtJust wish they'd spice up the testing with some events. Love the 12v12 from mobile
They fucked themselves with this one
They also removed that EOD came with arena access....they also removed old dev blogs from their youtube that covered EOD accounts and what not. Fucking shameful man.
With the Arena Breakout sponsorship XD
Coincidental line up, but so...sooo ironic.
@@BigfryTV damn right fry
I love how their stated reason for PVE is that it'll take server space.
Literally just have the inventories be the only server side thing boom done.
Peer to Peer would probably be an upgrade to their servers for combat anyways.
What a shame, glad I gave up on Tarkov a few years ago and I bought the eod in 2017 and have well over 8k hours on the game. Charging for features like the distress beacon that we’re talked about being in game since 2016 is fucking ridiculous
What is eod
Yeah. F*** BSG adding parts of a game that players wanted and originally backed and putting it behind another $100 plus paywall
*quickly making it after they got competition in that area and selling it for more than 10x the price a certain early access game that released earlier this month costs
@@Unknown_Genius wait, what similar to tarkov game got released earlier this month? I know of a few upcoming releases but nothing released atm.
@@anonimus370 Incursion Red River, which was previously in development under the name Project Quarantine as a standalone tarkov coop experience for 2 years or so (and then got rebuilt from the ground up in the past months - one of the first announced titles). BSG only saw that it sells and decided to quickly put together a coop mode as well and sell it absolutely overpriced - sole reason IRR exists is because they went from "we'll make a coop mode later for everyone" to "we won't make a coop mode", Incursion released for 13$ and is now like 16.50 without the release sale in pre-alpha, absolutely solid title for coop even tho still missing a lot given it's state obviously.
Also the IRR team supports modding, which already is a huge step up, a few smaller mods already released, not sure if anything big will release before the actual medic system (or an early adaptation for it) is going to get an official release tho.
Don't forget Tax. 250 = 300 dollars or more depending on your area
We finally escaped from Tarkov!
Ah, so that's what they meant with "you'll be able to escape tarkov this year", lol
You escaped from tarkov
And welcome to kamona
They intentionally want to kill the game because Nikita is tired of Tarkov and want's to move on to other Projects.
I get that but I wish they really cared about the ones who supported EoD
I doubt that's the case
And destroy what remaining reputation they had? No one is gonna buy anything from BSG now lol. That makes no sense.
That’s as bullish as the bundle
Nah, they could've just stopped updating it. Would've killed it just as much. Doing this was a desperate money grab because they're broke and probably don't even have money for artists so they couldn't go the cosmetic microtransactions route.
1:50 "Where every bullet counts" → gets shot point blank from a guy behind and proceeds like nothing happened.
Yeah, it's called body armor
@@Cstr0yercopium withdrawal is a bitch, eh?
GOOD that means this game might actually be good and worth playing. Tarkov is garbage because of how quick you die form one shot without ever seeing the person that shot at you.
That is why I am glad to hear about single player version of Tarkov so I can play it with mods and ACTUALLY HAVE FUN without fear of getting shot from something that was not actually there or able to hit me.
@@Cstr0yer A game with working body armor? That would be a first. Sadly games like Tarkov think even level 4 plates are made of paper and never stop anything.
I hope this game get armor right unlike every other game ever made.
@@robertsears8323 If you wanna give it a shot, the game originally came out on mobile and it has controller support, and don't worry, from the video the PC version does *NOT* just look like a lazy port ;D
looks like a class action lawsuit is in BSGs future. You cant say you get access to all future dlc after paying $150 and then make a new edition just to not give away that DLC to people that paid that much money.
There ain't no f* class action lawsuit against a russian company.
Single player/Coop PVE should be a basic feature for everyone, not a DLC or a feature for an incredibly expensive edition. This is so asinine and greedy on Battlestate behalf to lock such a simple thing behind a huge paywall.
Their discord is HILARIOUS right now.
fucking love it
The fact that even the mods on the subreddit are pulling back rules to allow more people to complain is amazing.
I joined lfg beginner vc #2, its qll unheard edition guys calling everyone who joins poor lolol
@@Mr.Grinns It's all the whales and cheaters. You'll be surprised how many cheaters have always plagued the official discord channels. The amount of times I have accidently grouped up with cheaters on that discord while looking for randoms to play and quest with is crazy.
@@jonathanoriley8260ong
I feel like this is an exit strategy. They're going to rake in as much as possible before they shut it all down. They've been consistent about not adding PVE, and now suddenly they are releasing it for 250$? Sketch af.
shady devs gonna do shady shit, they've always been zero trustworthy
@@mfhex1398 Yet all those streamers and other have play the game for all these years and loved it.
I am so glad you made this video. Literally just yesterday I was thinking about Tarkov. I stopped playing a few years back. Right before Lighthouse came out. I think a big part of it was that I started playing with some friends, and they were taking it really seriously. We started building the bases and going for high ticket items and missions. But I kind of just liked having fun with the game. Before I got them into it, I wasn't rich, but I was loving it. Then streamers were beating the entire thing in a weak, so they started raising the requirements for everything, and I felt like I was no longer making progress. And they kept talking about the new map, but weren't releasing it because we needed vest #294. And just a whole list of things I was getting tired of
But I thought maybe I could have some fun with it again. See what's up... Now I've lost interest.
Meanwhile, I've played quite a bit of Arena Breakout on my phone. It did feel like just the mobile Tarkov. So if they can make a good PC version, I'm down for supporting them.
The only reason I have EFT installed is so I can play SPT.
I love how the video is sponsored by Arena Breakout when they've been absolutely throttling Tarkov on twitter with their marketing hilariously mocking them for this.
Its a chef's kiss and i hope Arena Breakout the best. This has got to be one of my favorite sponsorships given the context of everything
I mean, every decision Nikita makes is a net negative. this was a long time coming
Arena breakout needs solo/co-op. Done with forced pvp. I will support all devs that give me that experience.
SAME!!! I've been playing games for 27yrs and the PVP player base has turned to mostly toxic garbage players the last several years. I want no part of PVP anymore! Give me PVE or CO-OP or I'm not interested.
The game Will be too easy If there's a solo mode, a kind of battleroyale. You need to know you are supposed to meet squads while solo
@@nuppy11 lmao STALKER Anomaly proves that the formula is not any easier in a singeplayer experience if done correctly
Get good scrub
I play games for my enjoyment not others. The get good comments are low IQ.
Scary thing is people will pay the 250 dollars for it, I also bet alot of the main RUclipsrs) streamers who are complaining about this update will also pay it.
They should just make a offline version no extra features, just offline with no wipe for like £20
it should always have been an option to play co-op offline.
Slight correction, the SPT ( Single Plater Tarkov ) mod is single player only, there is no coop. You connect to a virtual server on your own machine that you have to start first in order to be able to play. You are risking nothing with it, ( Klean literally plays it on twitch lol ) its in a whole separate folder and you must have the original game for it to work. It needs an installed LIVE version but it copies it over to a different folder ( drive if you want ) therefore does not modify anything in your live forlder.
once again, a comment that mentions the truth about SPT gets very few responses. the hype kids these days seem to enjoy the blankets over their eyes.
everyone has always been allowed to play or stream SPT, they just can't promote the way to get it up and running to avoid a strike.
@@Usedtobedc
It's their loss mate, I enjoy SPT a lot. It's extremely customizable, some of the AI mod is really fun to play around with, you can add and remove stuff at your pleasure, mods like the realism mod makes it a lot more punishing than Live ever been and it fixes a lot of neglected issues with the game. Let them kids play with the cheaters frothing from the mouth I really coudlnt care less lol
Also with the installer its not tat difficult to make it work even they could do it lol. Just drop the .exe into the folder you want to install SPT to and press enter, wait 5 mins then play.
I find it very strange that an offline PVE mode is not just part of the main base game. You should not have to spend 150 (or 250!) dollars to be able to get a coop/offline PVE mode in this Beta. Doesn't make any sense.
Grayzone and arena breakout have a chance to have a big hit but they have to watch out on free to play, pay to win, pay for convenience, etc.
Arena Breakout on mobile is not pay to Win, the only problem is the shit skins they add like Bruce lee. So i doubt the game Will be pay to Win in PC
@@nuppy11 Bruce Lee skin in a Tarkov-Like game?
That sounds hilarious lol I wouldn't buy the skin, but sigh me tf up anyways 🤣
@@nuppy11really? I love Bruce Lee but that sounds really lame for a game like this
@@nuppy11 Nah a bruce lee skin is based
@@jonathanoriley8260Thats the thing,There is no Pay to win,even tho you got IHPS full face helmets or RST blast Chestplate,if you dont have skills and lucks,you are nothing
Tarkov was bleeding already and now it jumped into an ocean waiting to be torn apart by sharks
how can a "game" be worth so much money with nothing to do in it.
This wasn't even a torpedo, this was *scuttling charges*
The fact that it's called the "Unheard" edition is so painfully ironic. It's not even a good name on its own - it just feels like BSG deliberately chose the most tone-deaf name they could possibly go with.
As an EOD owner.... I feel SCAMMED
That's because you were scammed
You paid $125 for a game, and now all of a sudden you feel this way?
@@Kazanko28 To be FAIR, I bought that because I was under the (false) impression that I would be getting ALL future content for the game, At the time I was way more invested in the game., the PVE mode was going to bring me and my Brothers back in.
Funniest thing i just learned. The unheard unique melee weapon... IS A FUCKING ASSET FROM THE STORE.....i mean the memes are writing itself. Don't know where i saw it, but i laughed so fucking hard when i saw it. Did not confirm it myself, but if it is true DUDE.
I loved this game back in the day. I waited for the modular armor. And now they fucked it all, so sad to see.
Omfg…
SPT has been a great time. There’s some talented people over there just… making things. As an EOD owner who hasn’t played LIVE seriously in a while it still feels like a slap in the face & I am glad to have been playing SPT for so long & enjoying a different experience.
Wait a minute… The trailer said “play offline with your friends”. Wasnt one of their supposed major price justifications the fact that you still had to play online on their servers? So is it false advertising or were they lying about it still needing to be online on their servers?
Correct. Nikita said in the 2nd "apology" post that the reason it was behind the pay wall was because the "offline" coop was played through BSG's internal servers which didn't have much space. Which is bullshit lmao
People forget this game was not supposed to be an extraction shooter. It was supposed to eventually be open world.
People tend to forget things that don't actually matter
@@user-to1su2iy4d It kind of matters. Money was made based on expectations that wouldn't be met.
@@user-to1su2iy4d Where does it not matter?
It's why some people bought it, same as people who bought it because at the start they said they'd bring back the coop mode, just to shift to not wanting to do that and now we're here: A lazy cash grab because they got competition that doesn't even cost close to half the price now - and people buy it regardless to "support the devs".
@@user-to1su2iy4d lying about your game doesn’t matter? It’s people like you that they feed on.
It's a shooter that extracts money from your wallet...
That Arena breakout sponsorship to spit on Tarkov more is muchly appreciated
There are people that see problems in opportunitites and people who see opportunitites in problems.
I'd say there's a bunch of potential customers now looking for a new extraction shooter.
How to kill a company 101, Unheard edition
"this video is sponsored by areana breakout"
months later "Arena Breakout Infinite is going to be Pay to Win?"
At this point, I just want my money back.
All of it.
Great game, but I just don't want to deal with this shit.
Tarkov is gonna be the h1z1 BR of the extraction shooters they get the ball rolling and then end up getting destroyed by themselves and competitors.
"It ain't DLC, its unique feature of the new edition added" - I feel like I have heard Russians say something similar.... oh yeah: "It's not a war, it's a special military operation!" 😅
What makes his statement moronic is that it's not even a unique feature. They added training/offline coop raids around 2 years ago IIRC, but with no progression. They literally added couple of lines of code here to add progression to an already existing few years old mode.
Considering this company supports and possibly funds the war, it wouldnt surprise me at all if they took notes. Their game is also chock full of anti Ukraine propaganda.
@@VenatorX7 Wtf did I even buy with EOD? this is the most pathetic sleezy money grab
@@VenatorX7 Ye, they added coop practice mode for sale as an expansion in february for standard edition owners.
I almost bought that with a friend yesterday for 10€ thinking it was the coop mode because we didn't keep up with the game, I honestly feel sorry for anyone that didn't double check and bought it expecting that it's the new coop mode...
Technically speaking it is a special military operation because there is no formal declaration of war for either side and the scope of objectives was quite limited.
You’re not risking a ban by playing SPT. It’s just a simple matter of keeping your SPT files separate from your EFT files.
not a single person has ever been banned for playing SPT-AKI
@@Usedtobedc nope, been playing for almost two years now. Not a single mention of a ban that I’ve ever seen.
@@SolarGeneral That's what he just said white boy.
@@Cainny Thanks for acknowledging, I love being white 👍🏻
What is SPT and EFT?
There is no coming back, no matter what they do, no matter how they fix this, the damage is done. BSG has failed as a company, and tarkov is dying. It's over, and nothing can save it. We've seen it for a while, how the game was failing, its just more evident now more than it ever was before
something you forgot to mention
the part were landmark was talking about the ''unique'' part of the text they also changed the wording of the DLC part
Free access to all subsequent DLC (Season pass) and it USED to be Free access to all subsequent DLC (Season pass) SUCH AS EFT ARENA.
this change from what i can tell means that if you buy the 250$ pack you dont even get access to arena (which is a bad game but still)
Always wanted to try Escape From Tarkov, but it's price tag is very high for me, and now watching this situation, it's clearly not gonna go for it.
It had potential, I have thousands of hours in the game but yeah clearly it’s the end, I’ll be uninstalling and never going back
@@zemotika just uninstalled and took the launcher off too. Fuck this bullshit, it's about time people did something back to these greedy people. Yes they are companies but they are also people making decisions.
To all the people paying £250 for this it's you i feel bad for the most. £250 for some extra shit in a dying game that has literally just axed it's own hand and foot is pathetic. Enjoy paying half of a decent laptop cost just to play with cheaters.
ya, they never even had regional pricing. Killed off 80% of their potential playerbase with this move.
The arena breakout sponsor on a video talking about the downfall of Tarkov is class 🤣
Good vid bro!
even as destiny 2 player who hate the game
just glad that d2 aint that greedy
Damn, this is even above gaijin levels of greed my god…
If people let this slide: it will happen in your other favorite games, it will set a precedent that at the end of the day companies can do this
🤔 It should be expected this game was like a hundred something dollars to get in early access and they continue pricing new content like that. The community should vote with they're wallets.
thats 340$ Canadian
thats a megalomaniac move
$382 Australian lmao
@ratasslordofyoink4542 Yeah but Australia doesn't actually exist, so that's different. Canada is a real place.
@@ratasslordofyoink4542…. $430 Australian dollars after tax 🥴🥴🥴🥴🥴🥴
@@Largentina. Schizophrenia??
@softcocoa7794 nonits facts. Australia doesnt exist. Nobody has proven its existence. However, Australia doesnt exist but its still more real than Ukraine
0:05 no, The Day Before is not "shoot themselves in the foot", it's just simply a scam
STOP SPREADING THE BAN RUMOR OF SPT
For Singleplayer Tarkov (SPT) you can’t get banned as long as you have a legit copy of EFT and you never run EFT and SPT at the same time.
Stay in Tarkov (SIT) is the unofficial co-op mod of SPT btw.
notice how many responses the inaccurate hype gets? how many times do these hype kids say 250$ when not a single owner of any version of EFT will ever pay close to that, and how many times do the negative hype kids say SPT gets a ban when it has never banned anyone?
@@Usedtobedc absurd
Hey Bigfry! Great video.
I have played only SPTarkov since it became available, I don't have time to "Git Gud". I have always wanted to play PVE co-op with my dad, but there is absolutely no way I will pay this much for it. I would pay alot, but not $250!
I guess I will just play Incursion Red River and SPTarkov.
try the MPT mod for spt, works with mods too
i do believe this is the final nail in the coffin i cant justify or find a reason to ever come back to eft....guess it had to die eventually
Also something no one is talking about is Flea Market slots, BSG took away flea slots to prevent cheaters but now you can buy them with the $250 addition!!!
Because this is for them. They are well aware who buys more accounts and how big their pockets are. They are milking them because they know they will never win against them.
Arena breakout has sponsored Tony (lanmark) and now Bigfry for these breakdown vids. Hilarious 😂😂
Amazing video, just a quick nit-pick at the start though. To help clear things up, specifically in regards to SPT and SIT.
SPT does *not* equal SIT, SIT only uses the Server backend of SPT, otherwise known as AKI. SIT isn't affiliated with SPT, this is why that distinction is important.
SPT does *not* have coop in any form or style, it doesn't support any form of multiplayer and never, ever will.
SIT or Stay In Tarkov, is a separate mod for Tarkov which aims to create the CooP version of SPT.
So if you want singleplayer and the latest version consistently, go with SPT.
If you want CooP, go with SIT. You cannot mix and match them. Same with mods.
You cannot and WILL NOT get banned, or reprimanded for playing or using either SPT or SIT. Anyone who says otherwise lacks an understanding of how Tarkov works and the legal grey area both SPT and SIT stand.
In order for you to be ' caught' playing SPT/SIT you would need to inform BSG directly; providing them your BSG account name and confirming that you indeed play SPT/SIT. BSG taking action on this naturally would result in much more backlash as well, as again, word of mouth, even if it's admition isn't exactly direct evidence. There is no connection between Tarkov and SIT/SPT, they are completely separate entities, you can play SPT/SIT without even having an ethernet cable plugged into your PC. As it is completely self hosted using AKI_Server. Which isn't BSG owned.
Some merit could be made to the argument that running SPT/SIT and your BSG launcher at the same time may be 'risky' as software can see other software that's running. This could be true, but is intrusive for software to do, and would need to be announced in a patch lest BSG receive more backlash. Ontop of this, why? Like just why run both? BSG launcher is a resource hog to begin with, plus you already kinda do, since you use BSG launcher to update the game when you need to update one of the mods.
So where is the risk?! For you, the end user? Nothing, not a ban, not even a stern warning. Instead what's more likely, is eventually if BSG can calm the storm, they may take legal action against both SPT/SIT and have them stop working on the titles. And that's it. The end. Your copy, of whatever version of the game, will function for the rest of eternity and BSG will actively never know.
The reason I say this is people shouldn't be *afraid* of SPT/SIT. Don't be scared to learn how to install and play both mods. The more people on-board, the more likely BSG might actually do something good for once in this entire development cycle of Tarkov. Or they'll burn to the ground trying.
In the end people say, 'this wipe is the best'
or 'this update is the best'
or 'Tarkov is good now this time'
No guys. I'm tired of hearing this almost every new wipe. Or every major update change. The game is hot garbage.
It was hot garbage in 2017 and it's in many ways arguably worse now. Nothing more than wasted potential.
I don't think the armor changes, the economic changes, or even the recoil changes had any affect on the core problems that Tarkov suffers. And if anything only introduced more issues and problems. Hell. When they changed the armor; certain sets where missing entire armor areas. And here we are thinking yah; "I'm sure the hit-boxes are fine, I'm sure the net-code is fine."
I assure you. It's not. They can barely add new armor areas and not break things as a result, I can't imagine the mess of spaghetti code that's under Tarkovs hood at this point. I would've said five years ago, and I'll say it now. Tarkov needs fixes and balances and QOL. *new* need to be put on a long, looong hold. But no. We get new maps that are mid, new bosses that as usual are broken and just annoying to deal with, instead we get new broken armor systems which oh I'm suuure it's playing well with the default standard hit-boxes the actual player, instead we get a map for newbies that turned out to be anything but, as well as broken running animations and floating guns.
I'd like a team on RUclips to start actually fully play testing Tarkov, cause clearly the devs dont. Cause I just doubt that there aren't more undiscovered problems.
BSG pulls pin from grenade, lets spoon fly, then proceeds to throw pin...
It's not a DLC, it's a special military operation
Special Monetization Operation
They named it after the community. A direct slap in the face of their supporters.
The final cash grab before they abandon the game. Classic
EFT Margin Call Edition: "Sell it all. Today."
Already Uninstalled and will not return unless this is rolled back AND they appologize. This is absurd.
Correction, you can not play co-op with friends on SPTarkov.
yet
There is an additional mod called SIT which enables you to do coop.
@SchloobySnack Dang this is news to me. It actually works or is it garbo?
correct. you can play co-op with friends on SIT. Though I wouldn't be shocked to see the two projects go ahead and merge if this shitstorm keeps going to the end.
@@Adam14319 it has a few small issues out of the box, but with a couple mods (sain+donuts, looting bots and a few others) it offers a good experience. I use a customized version of the docker image they have on github hosted on a truenas box in my house that friends and I have played on for a few months when we got tired of hackers & those with more time to play on tarkov live and its been as good if not a better experience than live.
Well said, Fry. This whole situation is completely unacceptable. Players should not have to pay the price for the absolute fumble by a company.
Just to clarify something from the beginning, the SPT mod never had co-op. It was singleplayer only, no ability to play with friends.
There’s a mod called project Fika that allows this
Check it out
1:20. haha love the sponsored section. on a Side note when yo umentioned Rings of Elysium it brougt me back. super underrated game
The co-op single player would be the only thing that could get me back in tarkov after 5 years but im not paying extra 95€ for that!
They sell copies to cheaters that they ban. With PVE they would not make the money.
So glad you released this! Wanted to hear what you think.
As an EoD player I feel like I just got head/eyes 2 seconds into raid.
Gamers act like they have no choice when you can easily just not play. Why even support a game or dev after this?
Gamers can be very entitled. Look how they currently are celebrating the idea of pirating Ubisoft titles. Not playing a game or boycotting a studio? No way. They still gotta get those hyped up AAA games so they can feel like they belong and can still participate in discussions. Bunch of hypocrites if you ask me. The cringe level goes even further through the roof when they call themselves "game preservers" or "Internet archivists" or somesuch. Holy sh*t do they need to touch grass badly.
You’ve been waiting for this moment ever since they fucked you over in beta lmao. I backed them day one via EOD and got access to the A.I with progress before they removed it. So funny the very first feature I got to test got removed and re-added later and they’re asking me for another $100 for it. A spit in the face.
As long as you don't stream SPT or save it to the same folder as LIVE EFT (which idk why you'd have installed at this point) they wont ban you as its a separate download of eft and doesn't connect to their servers
edit: I also feel like editing what a past edition gets the user sets them up for a lawsuit as players aren't getting what they bought into... I hope they get sued
I watched a SPT stream yesterday an even a big streamer was streaming it. I don't think BSG cares anymore
Actually wrote XSolla for a complete refund and the german consumer office. Usually i should be safe as someone from Germany regarding that kinda stuff. Well let's see if XSolla does something otherwise next stage will be paypal.
Good luck with that, getting refunds from paypal is really, really hard nowadays given the amount of people that just instantly charged back money after ordering something in the past years. If your purchase is older I'd say it's probably even impossible.
@@Unknown_Genius Yeh but still worth a try even if nothing comes out of it. Also alot of people seem to try it so maybe some sort of consequences are coming out of it like paypal Blocking it for awhile or XSolla who knows. Better than doing nothing.
@@leana339 true
Escaping from Tarkov never became easier.
I'm taking the money that I could have spent on the unheard edition and buying the most expensive addition of grey zone warfare, just to say FU to tarkov.
Who else is doing this? 🤝