As someone who was relentlessly bullied as a child, this really sounds like a power fantasy with belief in revenge potential; people who were hurt, even traumatized, “gaining strength” in an echo chamber.
im glad others are seeing this. these are the people who , instead of drawing out their pain , writing it out , or otherwise punching a tree until they felt better they chose to go nuclear. my dad was like this. its so obvious to see when youre familiar with it. its cringey little boy revenge porn thats all
I was in those spheres lot before they were called “sigma” (I’m not anymore) and this is 100% accurate. By and large, they’re guys who were picked on or physically abused/assaulted in middle school/high school who correctly recognized that bad things were done to them, but incorrectly project that on the world being against them instead of bullies being bullies. Because that’s easier than doing the necessary internal work of processing that trauma. It’s why so many of them idolize school shooters like Harris and Klebold; they falsely believe that they “fought back,” when really they attacked everyone. It’s sad really.
I don't believe in pseudoscientific crystal witchcraft or whatever either but u give the sigma shit too much credit 💀 it's even less legitimate than those things
@@jout738 it's kinda a trust me which has spread so much, they just take some traits make them sound cringey except for having a category to shit on and name it using some popular greek letters. Finding some traits in one doesn't necessarily mean this shit is true.
my exes kids said the 7 year olds at her school were fighting over who is a sigma. I told her she needed to say "anyone who calls themselves a sigma is a beta". I just know a little boy hearing that from a little blonde girl will eviscerate them.
😂 I remember when I was in like first grade or something, a kid wouldn't leave me alone and stop teasing me. So my dad said, "He does that because he likes you, you should say that to him." So i did. I still remember the kid turning 100 shades of red and he stopped bothering me.
Using Patrick Bateman will never stop being hilarious because the character is literally the exact opposite of Alpha and Sigma in every way. Even the “sigma face” is completely wrong because the face came from Bateman getting his feelings hurt lmao
*makes awkward sex joke in a new friend group and nobody laughs* “Little did they know that he intended to command the room with silence. Laughter is easy, but enduring a cold awkward stare is what reveals the true strength of one’s character and perseverance.”
*Makes a racist joke and nobody laughs: *i was simply attempting to create a humorous enviroment and had planned to see which person would understand my comedic genius*
Heh... i've been known to say "excetra excetra" just to confuse people and then slip a serrated shiv between there ribs when they're caught off guard. I even intentionally misspelt "their" to fuck with your mind. Heh... consider yourself outwitted. You better watch yourself around me I'M FUCKING PSYCHO.
This video actually saved my life. I was planning on starting a fight with my sigma coworker, because I took his quiet demeanor and brooding intensity as signs of weakness.
@@maschaorsomethingit wasn't. It was a joke about "weak" men. Then people started to unironically call themselves sigma. And it's kinda embarrassing ngl
@@maschaorsomethingthe term sigma male was used to make fun of and exaggerate alpha male losers at first, but then people started using the term unironically, which is hilarious if u think about it
I love the fact that there even is a sigma male community. Its like there is a community of "lone wolves" having a circlejerk of how cool it is to be a "lone wolf"
Last week I unironically heard someone describe himself as a sigma male to impress a girl and he seemed so impressed with himself (she was so confused). I laughed so hard to myself.
Isn’t his whole character supposed to revolve around being an unstable murder under that mask? Idk I’ve never watched American Psycho so correct me if I’m wrong.
They also use Batman as the "lone wolf" archetype, but Batman has had more sidekicks than Superman. Superman is the ultimate lone wolf sigma. And he's pretty chill.
Someone called me a sigma male once... I responded by silently cursing them from the shadows with my powerful words which worked their way into their brain and made them develop various debilitating mental illnesses that caused them to take their own life. Do not underestimate me. Do not call me a sigma male.
Ex alpha male here, as my kingdom fell and my peers decided to move on to an other tribe on a differe side of the city, i knew i had to change something. I needed to be a sigma male. My alpha ways had destroyed my dignity and soul. Now iam the most superior sigma. I am SIGMAUTISTIC
Im a girl but I relate to some of their mental health issues. Its too easy to get so isolated you start going stir crazy. If it becomes your lifestyle and you have no friends, you're really vulnerable to toxic thinking. If something happens to you while you're like that, the bad thoughts can stick like flypaper because the chronic pessimism can become a coping mechanism for trauma, because the instinct is if you mistrust everyone then you cant get duped and that mindset starts to bleed into every aspect of your life. It takes an exhausting amount of therapy to overcome.
This is so eloquently stated. The accuracy of the sequence hits like a freight train. The catharsis of self-hate when you're isolated is dehabilitating. The thought forms that persist when somone manages to impact your routine is so dam destructive, it's not like you needed the help. Im not sure if the pain causes slight tendencies of OCD or the pain is caused by OCD tendencies. Whatever the case, the feelings are truly a drug all on its own. It's a SOB to kick and you'll have to be way past empty and far beyond losing everything before the thought to change will cross your mind. It will fill you until you break or it will kill you if you don't change.
I love how every new "Greek Letter"-male gets more specific what their signature traits are. I'm an epsilon male, my pen spinning is overwhelming, and I can eat anything that is sour cream onion flavored even rocks
Wow, now I really want to be an Epsilon male like you. Can you coach me, I'm willing to spend 18k on a 3-day sour cream onion flavored rock eating camp.
This sigma male stuff feels like how I would have turned out if I had never grown up enough to let go of the revenge fantasies I had against my middle school bullies
Yeah I'll never understand how adults can act like this, this entire topic of types of male revolves entirely around self confidence which for a lot of young men is discovered in high school. Even if people aren't comfortable witht hemselves there are ways to change that that don't involve subscribing to some cult philosophy
As a sigma male, sometimes I release a silent fart, and blame it on the dog. My dog never knew what hit him, and in an instant I had created the circumstances that turned his day upside down. I planned many steps ahead, and struck with such impeccable precision, pushing just hard enough that the fart was released at just the right moment, narrowly avoiding shitting myself by the finest of margins. I am like a stealth bomber in the night, silently unleashing my payload onto my unsuspecting victims from the shadows, and when the dust settles my canine opponent is left holding the bag of shame. (I don't have a dog).
Keep it up and you’ll run into the wrong sigma dog someday. You’ll have no idea what hit you until you discover the present he left for you in your new fancy slippers.
I gotta thank Charlie. I’m only 15, and last year I was going down the rabbity hole of sigma males. Until I started watching Charlie. He actually saved me from a life of embarrassment and disappointment lol
All jokes aside, I hope you have people around you that care about you and don’t make you feel bad about yourself and what you enjoy. Teenage years are hard enough without these weird labels and it’s easy to isolate yourself and fall down these rabbit holes that lead to resentment. Big internet hugs from this random stranger on the internet.
I’m a sigma mail. I’m shipped where I want, when I want, and I don’t need a return address. Most people think my small size and unassuming design make me weak, but by the time they know the real me, I’ve already exploded😤
It's more like "society thinks I'm shy but I am actually badass because I am sneaky and strategic".Sigma is someone who is confident in themselves and authentic at least to me.
Seriously had thought the “sigma male” thing was just an ironic joke but finding out so many people actually find this stuff relatable and unironically like it is crazy
@@KYLgonk its not just a religion at this point, its more of a cult where people we're thrown out of society and are now searching for revenge by filling their egos with these ""motivational"" videos.
@@victoryan4008except that astrology is rooted in ancient history, esoteric cultural practices, astronomy, sacred geometry, mythology and mathematical calculations, so it's actually even more interesting and nuanced than this bullshit 😭 at least it's complex and layered
For someone who is supposed to not care and go their own way, they spend a lot of time thinking about how other people percieve them and how they fit into a typology system that is fundamentally about a crude idea of a social heirarchy. All of this comes across as incredibly neurotic.
IT IS ALL ABOUT SELF CONFIDENCE. It is young men, or maybe some adults, who lack self confidence, and instead of taking healthy steps to confront it they subscribe to some elitist philosophy and convince themselves its not them its everyone else, and that their inability to manage social interactions is a good thing and makes them special.
No, it's not a joke, he really is a sigma male, sigma males are traditionally opposed to talking to women for no money, and crying is a way of releasing the build up of tension that comes with the highly stressful knowledge of the power he holds but the responsability that binds him to not mutilate the person that underestimated him because he must use that energy for the grind@@miruxa. , that's the truth
It basically boils down to “They all think I’m a loser but someday they’ll all see…” it’s sad really “sigma males”. We all love you, just get over yourselves and let your walls down. Allow yourself to find good close friends and have good experiences.
@@weaselxx u gotta be a loser dawg. i still hang out with my some of my friends from around 2nd grade and we're all seniors in high school now. my dad still talks to some of his friends from hs, so friends def arent temporary.
As a weird loner, I think it's okay to just be a weird loner. You don't need to trick yourself into believing that you're actually really cool and scary, and you definitely don't need to prove it to others. What they think about you and your way of life doesn't matter if it's not harmful. What matters is that you're happy living your life the way you are. If you actually want people to like you, but you're socially inept, giving yourself an edgy persona that implies you're better than everyone around you does not do you any favors.
Remember Alpha, Beta, Sigma whatever is it. If you a man you gonna get insults for everything and anything and if something bad happens is ur fault. You wanna talk about men's mental health ? You're an incel and probably hates all women.
I think this is sound advice for a lot of young introverts too. Many of them, along with their peers, think they need to open up and magically become a social butterfly... When it's okay to be introverted and quiet. You just need to own up to it. We see this a lot in media too where the quiet kid suddenly opens up and becomes social as a means of development. I've only seen a few shows that do the opposite where the extroverted friend(s) learn to respect the introvert's preferences. Like having chill kickbacks with the boys instead of loud house parties. That's how it should go unless the introvert has genuine social issues that need to be worked out. I'd also like to point out that introverted =\= socially inept or awkward. If you are, you should work that out. The internet promotes what I like to call "toxic introversion." It's when introverts act like they're all misunderstood geniuses being held down by Big Extrovert™. Because of that, some of them take a weird sense of pride in being socially inept. As if it makes them better because extroverts are all just brainless party animals who lack the human nuance of introversion. That kind of crap. It's all over the internet.
Me and some of my beta buddies were having a smoke outside. A Sigma walked past us. None of us saw him. We only realised after when we all described feeling suddenly uncomfortable, like an inexplicable shadow of darkness pierced our being. For the rest of the evening, we all felt the same thing - a sense of inadequacy, of being conformists, lesser men. The whisp of night that ghosted past us, invisible to all but the most keenly tuned senses, lingers to this day. I'll never be a Sigma but take it from me, you will know their presence in time. But only when they deem it necessary.
There's a term for this in Japanese--chuunibyou (literally "8th grader syndrome"). It's their version of being an edgelord or MC syndrome, though it's usually accompanied by pretentious anime fantasy tropes. Charlie had it right, it seems these sigma males are all trying to be mysterious and cool like Batman. It's a very adolescent thing. (The currently airing anime "The Eminence in Shadow" has a really good example of that kind of character. Some of the comments could have been lifted straight from the protagonist's inner thoughts.) Now the thing that sigma males say they want to be--a self-assured person who doesn't care what other people think and can't be easily intimidated and is underestimated--is a worthwhile thing to pursue. But it usually takes life experience and maturity to get to that point, as well as a really strong inner sense of one's values. When you know what you want and what you stand for in life, it's much easier to move through life confidently and without fear of others' approval and judgment. And if you know you are strong, you don't need to be flexing it all the time, but hold it in reserve until it is needed. Insofar as these sigma guys are trying to go in that direction and not towards violence or psychopathy, I'd cut them some slack. Most of them still seem to be figuring it out. It's not supposed to end there though.
Yup, when I heard the first comment I was like, "OMG this is Chuuni as F". Eh, nothing wrong with being Chuuni IMO. Is it Cringe, yes, but no harm IMO unless you truly believe in it irl or something. (This is just internet shiposting roleplay so)
@@Your-Least-Favorite-Stranger Look at you. Thinking youre oh so "cool" and "deep". Chi males are not even a step ahead of lambda males. They are multiple parrallel universes ahead of them. We are like the silence before the storm, that never comes...
The fact these guys are putting Patrick Bateman from American psycho in a video that’s basically displaying how they want to be perceived is pretty wild
It’s all about jawline and wearing a suit, yes I’m a gentlesir with class rather than being a boooooy. One small nudge above wearing a fedora to look like a 50’s detective. They’re stoic and cool, tapping into the secret matrix that no one around them understands. The badass psychopath is just misunderstood I swear
@@na-ky8ou Maybe I'm a fucking idiot and misunderstood parts of the movies but when he shouts at the bartender saying he's going to kill her or some shit she just is deadpan like he didn't say anything at all, and his lawyer says he had lunch with Paul Allen who shouldn't be having lunch because he's dead and Bateman shoots a man and the police but then just continues about the rest of the movie, if police where shoot at and fucking exploded you think that wouldn't go down queitly
If anybody thinks "sigma" is a thing, it's a sign they want this fantasy to exist, which then means, they are insecure and uncomfortable being themself. Which is super sad to see.
Charlie was a Sigma male in high-school, being an anime villain and not talking to anyone, before Sigma males were a thing. Way ahead of everyone, as usual.
To me this just sounds like low self esteem. I can relate to this a lot actually, I couldn’t count the amount of times I’ve met someone and immediately seen them as a threat because of my own projecting. I would take little things that they would say and twist them around until I came to the conclusion that they didn’t take me seriously and didn’t like me. When in reality they were being perfectly normal and I was just projecting my own bad feelings towards my self onto them. With this way of thinking I found myself constantly having to deal with, “enemies” and “people who underestimate me” all that shit. When your biggest enemy is your self that’s hard to deal with, so you just see the enemies all around you instead. It’s sad
@@radikalray8510 Still very much a struggle for me but I’m getting better. It sounds cliche but seeking professional help was the best thing I ever did. Therapy is for everyone :)
What you fail to understand is that alpha males need to be stoic because we carry out some of the most dangerous missions fathomable. You wouldn't understand because you're at home streaming Roblox on Twitch.
I've got a friend who unironically relates to various idols of the "sigma male" community. I feel like a parent figuring out that their kid is a gooner.
Had a friend that truly started calling himself sigma and I laughed everytime he was serious, it’s just so weird and uncomfortable for someone to talk about themselves like this, super narcissistic.
It’s hilarious however he might need help. I’ve been going through the commenrs a lot and at least the people who’ve been through this phase found it to be a coping mechanism for their self esteem, I think your friend needs to find actual, positive ways that’ll boost his mental health. It’s sad to see that the Internet promotes this delusional persona so much though.
I too have a good friend who considers himself a sigma. He believes he is the most successful guy in town yet he doesn't even have a job... We just let him enjoy himself.
In the context of the video Penguinz features this sounds more like _"Edgelords but with smarts"._ So nothing new. Those people were around forever and will be around forever.
@@CundoBolsoLS9 I mean, if you take a look at the author of American Psycho, satire is kinda his thing (great book btw definitely recommend the read). Also even besides the "sigma male" of Patrick Bateman, it's still weird to romantise a murderer just sayin 🤷♂️
I learned the hard way, when a guy verbally describes himself to you as an "alpha" or "sigma", you should walk away immediately. Its such a red flag for so many cringe, weird, unnecessarily aggressive behaviors from them very early on and I dont have time for that foolishness.
If they’re just playing then go on with it I guess but to a woman this stuff is one giant red flag. Someone who is prone to snapping or having unpredictable outbursts is exhausting at best and dangerous at worst. And not dangerous in a ‘cool bad boy’ way like they’re hoping, but in like an actual needs professional help way. They think it seems mysterious to repel people until they realize that genuinely no one likes them and no one thinks they’re cool and tough.
As a Sigma male in college, i always submit my assignments 2 weeks late. Not because i am lazy or incompetent but because i only need a day or 2 to write the whole thing so I put it off until i feel like writing it. Dangerous does not even begin to describe my intellect. Look upon me and DESPAIR
Bro... teach me to be like you. I've always wanted a mentor to teach me the ways of the sigma grindset and become the ultimate sigma male. I want people to tremble in fear with just a glance of my hard and cold gaze
As a sigma, lone wolf, omega, alpha male this video was enlightening and inspiring. Thank you Charlie for showing us the error of our ways. *contemplates alone*
I wholeheartedly agree with you saying "there's nothing wrong with being normal." People often obsess so much over being unique or different that they forget to be themselves.
Exactly being a sigma is not about trying to be unique but rejecting npc-ness don’t conform to society make your own path don’t be pathetic is the message
@@jar207I’m gonna hit you with some cold water. That’s called deviation from a sub culture. That’s a normal thing to do in a normal life. You’re normal.
@BlueRaven28Pushing your body to the limit and working out is now "incel behavior" and "toxic masculinity", whatever those girls with funny hairs may mean with that.
Загреб нам је далеко, Сарајево још даље, па вам Србин поздрав по гранати шаље Српску гранату Божја рука води, тамо где је пошаљемо она и погоди Зеницу не видимо, Тузла у даљини, ал' граната погађа, Србине не брини Српску гранату Божја рука води, тамо где је пошаљемо она и погоди Ја већ жалим душмане, тешко ли је њима, јер српска граната, к'о да очи има Српску гранату Божја рука води, тамо где је пошаљемо она и погоди *SRPSKU GRANATU BOŽIJA RUKA VODI*
The idea of fixating onto your enemies is well described in -"Doppelganger"-(UPD: it's called "the Double" in english, I got it wrong) by Dostoevsky. The main character is a sigma according to this video. He is very socially awkward and really wants public appreciation, yet does nothing to improve his social skills because he thinks that the reason why he is unpopular is him being good and virtuous and "wearing a mask only at masquerade" (he says that line a lot). So everybody around is just not honest and kind enough to be able to see how good he is and how high his morals are; therefore, whenever he gets in an awkward or uncomfortable situation, he sees them as enemies that constantly are planning against him and trying to mock him or ruin his reputation. Dostoevsky was first-class psychologist and really felt human nature deeply there is much more in a book I highly recommend to read it. I find it funny how accurate some people are depicted in his books even after almost 200 years, it shows that this is nothing new and same archetypes of people are always has been in our societies for millenia probably.
I just looked it up, and there doesn't seem to be any book named "doppelganger" written by Dostoyevsky. Are you, by chance, referring to "The double" ?
What's kinda scary about this whole thing is that I was bullied pretty hard in high school, and I made it out afterwards okay. If I had heard about this whole "sigma male" bullshit while I was in highschool, I probably would have fallen victim to it myself at that time. Kinda weird to think about
When you’re being bullied, it’s almost like you are looking for anything to try to understand who you are. As someone who was also bullied, as you age it’s just easier knowing that the bullies never took a chance to understand you but rather pushed their own insecurities onto you “All this time I’ve realized after moving, my bullies never took the chance to be curious. If they were curious, they would ask me why and how *I got so good at playing darts*. Be curious, not judgmental” All the best ❤
Yeah same. I was bullied as well and always rejected by women, which led me into a incel mindset of hating all women and people around me. That was until I saw a bunch of videos making fun of incels on reddit. Those videos genuinely helped me understand how dumb I was.
. . . How the fuck would you have fallen victim to it? What about that little community would’ve victimized you? Lmfao you sound like you could use a community that teaches you not to romanticize being the victim all the time.
were you bullied or were you "bullied" because people in school called me a bully but all i did was talk mad sht. everyone caught strays but certain people thought it was targeted. just stop being so insecure bro unless people picked you up and threw you into a dumpster its not that deep.
Love that he talked about the internets obsession with being cool and scary, and that its okay to be just normal. ive been thinking alot about that over the years
I moved to a new high school and had no friends, I was convinced I was smarter than everyone else and reacted defensively during every social situation. Once I let my guard down and actually treated everyone else like a person I had so many friends. If you act like everyone is out to get you, you will manifest that in others.
It's very common to feel like something is offputting and uncomfortable about people on the spectrum even if they aren't doing anything and I feel like that might the case for a lot of these kids, like they think they're better than everyone BECAUSE they tried to fit in and got rejected not the other way around.
@@kokeru Safer to say it's on a case-to-case basis. It also really depends on the environment. A shitty environment will make people be overly on-guard, which sets them up for failure in the future even if they're among better people. It kind of turns into a downward spiral where your behaviour perpetuates the isolation. You just have to realize when the problem isnt people anymore, but the way you treat and see others now..
So you’re telling me that must indulge in the current day degeneracy of the normie majority? Why? Why must I submit and force myself to like things I don’t like or want? I want order and purity, and if that goes against the new cultural norm, than I’m obviously going to be forced to isolated and defensive… You’re just admitting to being weak and fake. Never seeking individuality, but groupthink to “fit in”.
As someone who has grown up in an abusive household and as someone diagnosed with CPTSD, I can confirm that you feel like everyone is out to get you and you just create random scenarios in your head where you conveniently light yagami people, just to feel a little more in control. I hope these young men can find help and hope.
yes i was looking for a comment like this!! there was one post in this video where i was like “that sounds like hyper-vigilance!!!” i have schizoid personality disorder which kind of results in a pathological aversion to other people, sometimes it feels like these posts are just describing what it’s like to be schizoid. we rarely seek treatment so i have to wonder how many of these young men have SzPD without knowing it.
@@gays4holtby110 Oh my god! You're so right! The saddest part is that if they continue down this path they will never even consider that they can seek resources and help.
Now I'm no psychologist, but I think being a "sigma male" is a coping mechanism for bully or abuse victims who couldn't stand up for themselves most of their life. So, they put on this persona of being a sigma male that's always "two-steps ahead" and this quiet John Wick like character as a way of protecting themselves from what they perceive as future harm. Hence the "everyone's against me" mentality. It could also be some kind of power fantasy for people who feel they have mundane lives and just want an escape from their boring lives and live this epic action movie hero character they mold as a way of escapism. But at the same time I'm not a professional therapist, so what do I know?
The popularization of guys like Andrew Tate made older guys with solid lives unironically think “sigma/alpha male” was a legitimate thing. I know this great guy, hard worker, has a family, very genuine… Fell into the Tate pipeline and regurgitates sigma male narrative. It’s really sad imo. But who am I to judge him? He’s living a better life than me rn
Normal ? He don't understand this concept. Without RUclips he be just another manlet. He ridiculed every aspect of any human behavior for internet likes.
@@mizzou1016I wanna agree, but I’m also here watching his videos. I think deep down we yearn for gossip one way or another. Might as well be from one of the best
Bullied boys' power/revenge fantasies. I tried out some of these sorts of narratives in high school. I remember telling a friend that I didn't choose physical violence: instead I'd identify an aspect of my enemy's psychology that was brittle and I'd strike there. Nothing too big, but something that would do a lot of damage over time. My friend listened to all this crap and then said he didn't really understand what I meant, and asked for a specific example. He wasn't even intentionally calling me out, he was just confused about how non-specific I was being. The moment I reviewed to myself the claims I'd made and needed some receipts for, I realised I was completely full of shit. I wish I could say I never did any of that again, but I still do from time to time. Nothing as cringey as that occasion, but I still sometimes realise that I've painted myself into a flattering and untrue corner without realising it. Or just spoken way beyond my actual level of knowledge, experience or certainty. The common denominator in all these experiences is me. Specifically it's me talking to other people. So I find that minimising my interactions with people maximises my truthfulness. It actually provides quite a convincing illusion of virtue and therefore self-improvement, since so many of the ways to fail morally require the participation of other people. It's the moral equivalent of always skipping legs day. I think. I've never tried a legs day.
Your first paragraph is EXACTLY what I was thinking while watching the video. I was a socially awkward kid whose interactions in school were mostly either neutral or negative. I had a lot of revenge fantasies that sound along the lines of the whole "sigma male" thing. They aren't relevant in my adult life anymore, and I can't imagine holding onto them. I've actually had multiple moments when I've thought about someone I didn't get along with as a kid and thought, "maybe it would be nice to get a coffee with them."
That's what I'm saying. It's genuinely so scary to think that if i had taken just a few wrong turns a few years back, i would've been one of those guys. I used to find the "plotting from the shadows" trope soo cool (on account of the basic overpowered main character manhwas i used to read) and it sucks to think that if people like Andrew Tate or the whole sigma thing were popular back then, i might've fallen into it
As someone who was bullied at every school or workplace for just being an awkward and shy person I understand the feeling of everyone "attacking" teasing you. It can be pretty brutal for some people and with no support finding somewhere to belong must feel great. But the whole revenge thing is super cringe and unhealthy because you never actually act on it or if you do its only gonna make things worse. Working on yourself to become more likeable or funny is a much more productive use of your energy. It's a shame they don't lean into the positive things like creative writing or whatever is a common interest.
I’m really sorry you went through that, no one deserves that. I hope you have people around you who love and care about you because you deserve it. Big hugs from this internet stranger.
@@Synysterr1999Yeah I have to learn eye contact and social cues too. I have become confident and the people that bully the shy introverts don't confront me but they don't see me as a villain either because I don't take it far enough to be cringe. I'm just autistic it's not my problem if you get upset because I don't follow social cues properly or how you want me to, im not following your egotisical leader or you if you are the leader because I can't notice the dominant social cues they give off to me, it's just the way I am I can't change that I try my best to respect everybody it's unhealthy to entirely fall into the whole cringy murderer stuff because you'll be the most lonely.
@@alf73 My point is more it's not always just "cringe" people being targeted, I literally minded my own business in school and college and even when I'm out walking I do, but somehow I get bothered by people and have been beaten up for literally no reason, some people literally enjoy picking on others and it's nothing to do with eye contact or awkwardness but yeah I get it, good on you for working on that
@@alf73 It's easy for this guy to put it all down to confidence but it's not always that so his comment annoyed me because some people just pick on others for the sake of it, we need to blame the people who bully for no reason and pick on people alone or helpless, not blame the victims who are trying to cope with the trauma they faced from bullies
I think the more accurate progression of sigma male as a concept is: 1. The same people into alpha and beta males start believing something called Sigma males and it becomes the big new thing in that community 2. People start making fun of them 3. People make memes making fun of it and calling things “Sigma” ironically 4. Stupid people take it unironically and start seeing “Sigma” as a good thing 5. More and more people see it as a genuine unironic thing that exists
@@insertnamehere7228 while people fight for the Alpha and Beta labels, Sigma does not even care. He needs no labels or attention, he is Sigma, he has things to do
I thought the same... sigma's are not getting weirder. This video is coming from a guy who looks like he works for the geek squad at best buy. Check out his background
You think i work at Walmart. But i'm a sigma. That's what i want you to believe. I actually work a 12 minute drive down the road from there. Or do i? Maybe i'm unemployed. Maybe i'm behind you right now. Think again. that was just a ruse. I actually work at Walmart again. Or do i? That's the strength of the Sigma, he is unpredictable. If you respond to this comment i won't respond back.
My sister and I used to pretend we were SIgma males and made a lot of inside jokes back and forth back when the Sigma thing started, similar to Zodiac traits, I didn't know that it kept going and people actually are taking it seriously.
It's a lot easier to cope with loneliness and insecurity if you tell yourself that you're powerful, that everyone else is wrong, that they just misunderstand or underestimate you. As much as they sound silly I feel kinda bad for them, they're just trying to cope with the curse of life.
What you say at 9:00 about how there's nothing wrong with being normal is on-point. Social media, the internet, and pop culture have made a lot of people think they need to be awesome at everything all the time. It affects both genders negatively. If you're a woman it's easy to think you have to be some drop-dead gorgeous diva and if you're a man it's easy to think you have to be some bad-ass action hero caricature. Self-improvement is healthy but self-loathing is not. Self-awareness is super important and so is making peace with the fact that you won't always be the coolest, smartest, best-looking, strongest, or richest person in the room. Life is neither all about dominating others nor about wallowing in your own weaknesses. It's about doing your best, being grateful for what you have, working together, and helping each other so that we can all be happy.
@@monirk3197 think about it this way then; in a room full of people there will always be something you’re the best at. Sure, against every human on this planet there might not be anything notable that you’re the very very best at, but that’s true for nearly everyone. What matters though is that within your social circles, and within any reasonably sized room of people, you will indeed be the bet at something at least slightly notable. And the older you get the more true that will become, as you hone your talents and become your best self. And it’s true that the best thing you can do is focus on your strengths and be your best self, instead of trying to be someone else. Though obviously all teenagers are gonna go through a phase of trying to be like others and what’s “trendy” or “desired” and that’s fine and normal, it’s an involuntary biological response because the teen years are when our brain really focuses on learning social behaviors, because evolutionarily learning to fit in would keep you from being kicked out of the pack. At the end of the day though, it’s an instinct that’s not really necessary these days. There’s always gonna be a group of people like you who will take you in. Multiple groups actually, for your multiple traits and hobbies. Not sure why working towards your strengths and being able to use those strengths in a team with others would make you “weak” though. It sounds to me like you just need to find some good friends
Everyone wants to feel special and be different so they create these subclasses to feel unique in some way. It just shows how insecure they are about who they really are. I've always been quiet and wanted to be left alone and unnoticed. I never thought "I wait in the shadows for the right time to show my enemies the power I actually hold". I just thought I was weird...
Yo i have to agree with you but like the cringy movie clips and making it seem like being anti social is badass but I just feel like from experience I just don’t like being super social I don’t think it should be a subclass I think sigma male is more of a joke that some insecure men use to go to a fantasy land
"to show my enemies the power I actually hold" Could be a good self-motivation if applied in a good way. Sadly these people focus too much on the "enemy". Be a nerd, and study hard so you can be successful in the future, that should be it. The need to show everyone or to "hit" the enemy ironically shows that their minds are still enslaved by their enemies.
@@brandonmoore4259 Every single grifter pretending to be some manly man (despite contradicting themselves in their own definition of being a true man) is a fucking sociopath. To actively avoid society when society has to yet even reject you is a sign that you are not a fucking trustworthy or stable person. And if you listen to people like Tate talking about their childhood... they're all parental abuse victims. It is ALWAYS their dads forcing them into a specific lifestyle, doing specific things at specific times without even asking if they want to or not, meanwhile the same dads actively abuse both the son AND the mother and somehow manages to alienate the son from the mother, despite both being victims of the abuse. Abuse.... can turn you into an abusive sociopath or psychopath.
You'd be surprised how common Escapism is our society, everything is so interconnected due to globalization of social media, that people feel the need to stand out. Heck? Who wants to be normal when I could be just like that super, edgy cool character from X or become just like X celebrity? Being normal isn't normal anymore my favourite trend to represent this is the NPC trend where people who act normal or unentertaining aren't considered "real". We all just want to be special (gonna say tho that my use of "all" is vague as obviously not everyone is influenced the same way)
@outofmind9222 There's nothing wrong with having social anxiety. It does become wrong when you weave these stupid stories to yourself to cope. I had bad social anxiety. I couldn't look people in the eye. I have turned to these "sigma" or "outsider men" ideologies once, but eventually I had to become an adult. In order to live a more stress-free life I had to give up caring about how people perceive me. The store clerks and other customer service workers HAVE TO and WILL accommodate my awkwardness. Eventually I learned how to behave properly in social settings. I started working harder, so I didn't need to image people knowing I'm competent at things without me giving these edgy, childish warnings. Hell, even confrontation is something I still need to work on, yet these "sigmas" jerk off over confrontations that they only ever have the balls to have in their heads. Why am I shit talking people who are suffering from this too? Because COPE is the wrong path to go down and it evidently doesn't work. Never has. Never will.
@@outofmind9222 it wasnt a personal attack on you bro, that is if you dont unironically think of yourself as a sigma male. this is the internet, lots of people here have anxiety or other social problems. I have a pretty severe case of, thankfully high-functioning, autism. I dont feel attacked by this shit because im not a moron who believes in alpha beta sigma bs. Its just funny to point and laugh at those people.
@@outofmind9222insecure much? He’s not saying all anxious/whatever you are people are “sigma” wannabes. He’s saying the sigma wannabes are projecting, like you are right now.
i like how sigma male started as half joke half serious parody of the "alpha male grindset", then went full meme, then had actual good messages talking about mental health, acceptance, self-love and improving one self. Then it went full incel and now we're circling back to it becoming the next "alpha male grindset"
As a former member of the greek letter male incel community, the concept of a sigma male came about years before the alpha male grindset meme, and it was totally serious. I’m talking 2017-2018 little high school me was reading charts about omega males and sigma males. The alpha male grindset shit was a meme made based off of the serious communities that spawned these ideas.
My last boss was a super jacked, vocal, aggresive dude who was almost 50 and identified as a sigma male. He believed in horoscopes and was constantly giving pseudo ted talks at work everyday, he could wax on about himself and how he operated in life for hours. One day, when he was talking about alpha/sigma male cringe, I said he was more like a ligma male. He asked what that was. I've never had such a big belly laugh at someone elses expense, but I know if I was a dude he prolly woulda bucked up to me fr 😂 still woulda been worth it though
Sigma was supposed to be the way to make fun of people who called themselves "alpha". Not a real fake thing, but a fake fake thing. But of course people are actually calling themselves that now. If there's a crown, whether it's fake or not, people will fight over it.
You know as someone who is quiet and just observes the stuff and people around him I can safely say it’s not because I’m a sigma. It’s because I’m autistic
Classic sigman male avoiding the label and going his own way. I am your biggest fan. What was it like being born from the clear crystal that is the sky, almost indistinguishable from that which is undoubtedly pure? I wonder about various things in life, but the common denominator is always you. I admire and cherish your confidence to mark your own journey in this time of followers and fakers. Reject the status quo. Accept your individuality. Reality is what you make of it until they disagree. Then it is what they want. You refuse this and must continue to carry the torch, pathing the way for all those who are brave enough to take a single step in the split grass trail where you have run. There are no sigmas. Only those who are free and those who follow. You are the lone heat seeking missile aimed at the hottest element in the universe. You aim for the (T1/1)ruth. Thank you, AaronTobias5243
Charlie kept mentioning sigmas, alphas and omega males. But he didn't dare to speak about delta males. He knew he couldn't handle us, so he didn't even try. Smart man right here. Did the right move and kept his life for it
I was described by all of my teachers throughout High School as a very quiet kid in school. (This is true by the way) But never, ever, had I ever had this delusional mentality that I’m seeking revenge. The real reason I was quiet in all of my classes in High School was because I was attentive, focused and learning what was taught. Those who are “quiet and seeking revenge,” absolutely need help from a mental health professional immediately before they hurt themselves or others or even worse, KILL. EDIT: I was referring to the “revenge plot” part that Charlie mentioned in this video. I felt like some people didn’t fully understand what I was talking about.
Being a sigma is a way of life something the commoners here will never understand I’ve accepted sigmaism in my life and turned it around I went from skinny kid to respected kid who gets all the maidens
It’s just insecurity. People feel insecure about being antisocial or appearing weaker and want something or someone to tell them that their insecurities are actually strengths and make them special
Originally it wasn't tho. It was more like the redpill/self improvement stuff with the "sigma grindset" way of living. Usually ideas with time and different communities taking a spin get changed very much.
Being on the autism spectrum comes with a lot of downsides. For me, I was insecure and had social issues, but as I got older I learned more about myself rather than letting these "inspirational" Charltons corrupt me. Being good is simply being kind, not putting somebody in a box of their "hero's" creation. Fans of people think like these sigma males haven't seen the world for themselves yet, and have been groomed into thinking this is their bubble and they should not be anything else. It's truly sad really the world we live in.
I am kind to people who are shy Introverts because I was a shy introvert but I am not shy anymore. I am also autistic and some people that lead groups are offended when I don't follow their lead. My autism makes me not notice that they want to have power over me and I think they are wrong in trying to make me similar to them. If I try and follow them then I feel as if I am betraying my confidence, being bent the wrong way and it just doesn't feel right to follow the leader and accept averageness when I can work hard to achieve my own success. I dont wan't to be a leader of anyone but I feel like I could be the leader of the shy Introverts but leading is just unnessary and requires to much effort. I don't understand all the nonsense to do with having eye contact that makes you more powerful than them or any of this cringe. I learned how to do basic eye contact and I'll make eye contact with people around me it just makes sense. I still feel connected to people around me I'm not this weird sniper out to kill I just don't use heuristics you should search up the definition of heuristics, autistic people don't have them but everyone else does.
I am the same way for the most part apart from my main issue being that I struggle with learning part apart from my main issue being that I struggle with learning about who I am. I have no idea where to start, and I have no idea how people figure it out. All I like to do is play VR with random people and try to make others' days a little better. It's really tragic that people get sucked into stuff like the sigma and "I'm not like other guys" mindsets because all it does is give them memories to cringe about themselves in the future. about who I am. I have no idea where to start, and I have no idea how people figure it out. All I like to do is play VR with random people and try to make others' days a little better. It's really tragic that people get sucked into stuff like the sigma and "I'm not like other guys" mindsets because all it does is give them memories to cringe about themselves in the future.
@@alf73Autistic people absolutely have heuristics. In fact for many they can un-learn their autistic behavior. They just may be deficient in noticing patterns in some areas (most notably, social cues)
@@CrizzyEyes No…? Autistic people often times have issues with tasks like socializing because they lack the ability to generalize. Each situation is a completely new situation. However, autistic people are significantly better at recognizing patterns than normal people; it’s a large part of the reason why around 80% of savants have autistic traits. Also, it isn’t possible to “unlearn” autistic behaviors. You can mask them, sure, but if you do that for too long your brain throws a fit due to the dissonance because you’re not being true to yourself. I would know, I am autistic, and have done a shit-ton of research to figure out workarounds for my deficiencies.
In middle school I was a "sigma male". At the time, I was being bullied relentlessly and I had no friends. In that environment I was not "normal" and no matter how hard I tried I could not change that. I was furious at the world and wanted nothing more than to hurt those who hurt me, but I knew that any attempts at retaliation would only make my life worse, so I did nothing except wish I could get revenge. What I've come to realize is that sigma males are just people who are hurt and alone. They are sad and angry and they pretend that they will get revenge, in what I believe is an attempt to establish control over their lives.
You put it very well. I had the exact same miserable middle school experience. As a result, I can totally understand how people end up on the sigma male path and was once there myself to an extent. However, a lot of the sigma male community have gone too far down the rabbit hole and let their delusions go too far, as showcased by the comments in that video.
The funny thing is, I had a similar experience in highschool.. but as I got into the later years I realized how pointless retaliation was.. I essentially gave up on making friends and went home whenever I could. The irony is that got me labeled as a school shooter type... in australia lol. Not everyone in my year was bad though, made friends in year 12, I guess I was just unlucky.
@@Death-999 i don't understand why people just look at young men who have been shit on by life and just decide to shit on them more. Its this shit why these dudes fall into these dumb sigma and alpha things in the first place
Im a gamma male, my body is seriously damaged by radiation, don't underestimate me and my short remaining life span
💀
you’re the hulk
no you’re spider-man
weakest stalker player
i am a legma male i stet traps and drag things on my enemies face yes i do have enemies most likely the sigma males who are easy to predict .
Being a sigma male feels like the “not like other girls” for boys
Both are for validation from the opposite gender
@@Ilovetylerthecreator2044and neither actually work
so basically the manic pixie dream girl
Lol we had NLOG now we have NLOB.
You're so right! The 'pick me girls' of the male world.
They are literally the embodiment of the imaginary comebacks and fights in my head against the bullies when i was 14.
Takes a bully to know a bully
fr these people say that they’re crazy strong and dangerous but dont even bother working out or doing anything about their life to even consider that
at 14 i was fighting the bullies.
@@ViktorMudryiWise what a fukn hero
Not really, i didn´t like to fight and risk my life for another man who was weaker, but, it felt amazing once you try it. @@NickHunter
As someone who was relentlessly bullied as a child, this really sounds like a power fantasy with belief in revenge potential; people who were hurt, even traumatized, “gaining strength” in an echo chamber.
@@HaingeleIts not that serious… I’m sure plenty of kids go through this “middle school syndrome”-esque thing and grow out of it.
im glad others are seeing this. these are the people who , instead of drawing out their pain , writing it out , or otherwise punching a tree until they felt better they chose to go nuclear. my dad was like this. its so obvious to see when youre familiar with it. its cringey little boy revenge porn thats all
I was in those spheres lot before they were called “sigma” (I’m not anymore) and this is 100% accurate.
By and large, they’re guys who were picked on or physically abused/assaulted in middle school/high school who correctly recognized that bad things were done to them, but incorrectly project that on the world being against them instead of bullies being bullies. Because that’s easier than doing the necessary internal work of processing that trauma.
It’s why so many of them idolize school shooters like Harris and Klebold; they falsely believe that they “fought back,” when really they attacked everyone. It’s sad really.
As someone who relentlessly bullied a child, I agree
Ahahaha loser
Let's just call it what it is. They're role-playing. It's like they're writing their own little roleplay fanfic world.
Well said. It’s a coping mechanism. Pretending to be a secret badass to feel better about a shitty life
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@@durereNO!
I wanna go watch the whole 13 minutes because it is literally just a slideshow about some guy's oc
@@user-gj6ft2kc5d you're insecure. Get a grip.
The whole “sigma, alpha, beta male etc” is just horoscopes and rock magic for guys.
I don't believe in pseudoscientific crystal witchcraft or whatever either but u give the sigma shit too much credit 💀 it's even less legitimate than those things
@@punkbjork it’s just “trust me bro” source,if it’s even that.
For boys*
@@Kogotom123
Nobody said people are exactly like that, but you can find charchterics of sigma, alpha, beta, delta, gamma and omega on diffrent guys.
@@jout738 it's kinda a trust me which has spread so much, they just take some traits make them sound cringey except for having a category to shit on and name it using some popular greek letters. Finding some traits in one doesn't necessarily mean this shit is true.
my exes kids said the 7 year olds at her school were fighting over who is a sigma. I told her she needed to say "anyone who calls themselves a sigma is a beta". I just know a little boy hearing that from a little blonde girl will eviscerate them.
Update us if she does
😂 I remember when I was in like first grade or something, a kid wouldn't leave me alone and stop teasing me. So my dad said, "He does that because he likes you, you should say that to him." So i did. I still remember the kid turning 100 shades of red and he stopped bothering me.
Remember kids, you win 100% of the fights you have in your head
I'm not so sure - these guys seem to be struggling. Straw man in their head got hands.
@@suitsandstrings55😂😂
Nah, like have you imagined fighting a bear, i just think how i can survive that shit and escape
@@suitsandstrings55 Lmao. I love that description
I often lose all battles within my head
Using Patrick Bateman will never stop being hilarious because the character is literally the exact opposite of Alpha and Sigma in every way. Even the “sigma face” is completely wrong because the face came from Bateman getting his feelings hurt lmao
They all miss the whole point of the movie it’s so damn funny
*breaks down looking at a business card* so sigma
@@jimhovahwitnessI'm 100% convinced ppl who simp Patrick Bateman never watched American psycho at all
It's always been a meme to make fun of alpha bros, the problem is people taking it seriously now lmao.
In the book he's a repressed homosexual
*makes awkward sex joke in a new friend group and nobody laughs*
“Little did they know that he intended to command the room with silence. Laughter is easy, but enduring a cold awkward stare is what reveals the true strength of one’s character and perseverance.”
*Makes a racist joke and nobody laughs:
*i was simply attempting to create a humorous enviroment and had planned to see which person would understand my comedic genius*
Or just shat yourself to assert MALE dominance.
Waves cock around in public but little did they know he wanted to be arrested for indecent exposure as a life choice
Heh... i've been known to say "excetra excetra" just to confuse people and then slip a serrated shiv between there ribs when they're caught off guard.
I even intentionally misspelt "their" to fuck with your mind. Heh... consider yourself outwitted.
You better watch yourself around me I'M FUCKING PSYCHO.
This video actually saved my life. I was planning on starting a fight with my sigma coworker, because I took his quiet demeanor and brooding intensity as signs of weakness.
Good. You had no clue what you were getting into.
Good.
You had no clue what you were getting into.
Good. You had no clue what you were getting into.
Good.
You had no clue what you were getting into.
You had no clue what you were getting into.
Good.
I remember when calling yourself a sigma male was a joke instead of grown men and male teens calling themselves that unironically.
I thought it was originally serious tbh.
@@lamegamertime It was. The joke came later.
@@maschaorsomething I think you're new to the internet, because you have shit more backwards than my sexual attraction to other men.
@@maschaorsomethingit wasn't. It was a joke about "weak" men. Then people started to unironically call themselves sigma. And it's kinda embarrassing ngl
@@maschaorsomethingthe term sigma male was used to make fun of and exaggerate alpha male losers at first, but then people started using the term unironically, which is hilarious if u think about it
I love the fact that there even is a sigma male community.
Its like there is a community of "lone wolves" having a circlejerk of how cool it is to be a "lone wolf"
This made me actually laugh out loud 😂😂😂
darkthrone pfp \m/
And which is very ironic indeed because that like totally undermines what actually being a “lone wolf” really is 😄
@@KvS1248yes that’s the joke thank you
People who hate people, come together!
"...No!"
Last week I unironically heard someone describe himself as a sigma male to impress a girl and he seemed so impressed with himself (she was so confused). I laughed so hard to myself.
Incredible
But did he show her his bo staff skills?
😭@@Kevin64R
top 10 things that never happened
@@frightfactoryYT Hindsight tells the harsh truth. Not gonna lie I laughed pretty hard at that. Glad it didn’t last long. We all do something corny.
When they use Patrick Bateman as an example it’s always absolutely hilarious. They don’t even realise that he’s just a parody of them.
Isn’t his whole character supposed to revolve around being an unstable murder under that mask? Idk I’ve never watched American Psycho so correct me if I’m wrong.
@@UnreliableistYT yeah pretty much, but he didn't kill anyone fr, he's just fked up in the head
@@rookie9028 that's your conclusion to the movie ending and it makes no sense whatsoever hahahah
I believe the actor himself said there is nothing I like about him.
They also use Batman as the "lone wolf" archetype, but Batman has had more sidekicks than Superman.
Superman is the ultimate lone wolf sigma. And he's pretty chill.
As a sigma male myself, I dip oreos in milk long enough to make it soggy, then eat it. That's how dangerous I am.🗿
If it breaks, I dip my whole hand in the milk to pick up the destroyed oreo 🦍
Honestly underrated way to eat Oreos.
Ha! Light weights! I open the bag, pour in a cup of coffee and eat it with a big spoon. Time to up your "sigma" game. Cheers!
@@celice9995 And I won't even roll my goddamn sleeves up.
@@McNuggies-ff3lnWTF!!11!
Someone called me a sigma male once... I responded by silently cursing them from the shadows with my powerful words which worked their way into their brain and made them develop various debilitating mental illnesses that caused them to take their own life. Do not underestimate me. Do not call me a sigma male.
Ex alpha male here, as my kingdom fell and my peers decided to move on to an other tribe on a differe side of the city, i knew i had to change something. I needed to be a sigma male. My alpha ways had destroyed my dignity and soul. Now iam the most superior sigma.
I am SIGMAUTISTIC
homeboy not a sigma, he a spellcaster.
ur a sigma male
I just wanna be your sigma
Ok sigma male
It's incredibly sad what bullying does to people's psyche.
no offense but you clearly have no idea what psyche means
@xIX-uu5hmdon't lie
@xIX-uu5hmLol you only have 1 subscriber who's probably your mom.
@oldo7 What do you think psyche means?
Yeah but it’s tough to say if these are the ones who got bullied, or the ones who got away with bullying for so long.
Im a girl but I relate to some of their mental health issues. Its too easy to get so isolated you start going stir crazy. If it becomes your lifestyle and you have no friends, you're really vulnerable to toxic thinking. If something happens to you while you're like that, the bad thoughts can stick like flypaper because the chronic pessimism can become a coping mechanism for trauma, because the instinct is if you mistrust everyone then you cant get duped and that mindset starts to bleed into every aspect of your life. It takes an exhausting amount of therapy to overcome.
Same girl
Yeah I’m so cooked. Womp womp
How do you do that? The search bar thing
How do you do that? The search bar thing
This is so eloquently stated. The accuracy of the sequence hits like a freight train. The catharsis of self-hate when you're isolated is dehabilitating. The thought forms that persist when somone manages to impact your routine is so dam destructive, it's not like you needed the help.
Im not sure if the pain causes slight tendencies of OCD or the pain is caused by OCD tendencies.
Whatever the case, the feelings are truly a drug all on its own. It's a SOB to kick and you'll have to be way past empty and far beyond losing everything before the thought to change will cross your mind.
It will fill you until you break or it will kill you if you don't change.
I love how every new "Greek Letter"-male gets more specific what their signature traits are. I'm an epsilon male, my pen spinning is overwhelming, and I can eat anything that is sour cream onion flavored even rocks
Pfff, as a Ψ - male i can cook minute rice in 58 seconds, while munching on honey dipped habanéros
Wow, now I really want to be an Epsilon male like you. Can you coach me, I'm willing to spend 18k on a 3-day sour cream onion flavored rock eating camp.
@@cottonandballs18k? Those are rookie numbers, you're PERFECT for the seminar!
I'm a gamma male. I am filled with gamma radiation. It doesn't give me superpowers though, just cancer.
Its honestly becoming the male version of astrology.
This sigma male stuff feels like how I would have turned out if I had never grown up enough to let go of the revenge fantasies I had against my middle school bullies
They aren’t in middle / high school?
@@robertgaudet7407 Maybe I'm being too generous in assuming they aren't.
@@robertgaudet7407they have to be, else it would be realy sad an pathetic
same, for me it would be if i didn't knock out my bully
Yeah I'll never understand how adults can act like this, this entire topic of types of male revolves entirely around self confidence which for a lot of young men is discovered in high school. Even if people aren't comfortable witht hemselves there are ways to change that that don't involve subscribing to some cult philosophy
As a sigma male, sometimes I release a silent fart, and blame it on the dog. My dog never knew what hit him, and in an instant I had created the circumstances that turned his day upside down. I planned many steps ahead, and struck with such impeccable precision, pushing just hard enough that the fart was released at just the right moment, narrowly avoiding shitting myself by the finest of margins. I am like a stealth bomber in the night, silently unleashing my payload onto my unsuspecting victims from the shadows, and when the dust settles my canine opponent is left holding the bag of shame. (I don't have a dog).
😢
😂😂😂😂😂😂
Keep it up and you’ll run into the wrong sigma dog someday. You’ll have no idea what hit you until you discover the present he left for you in your new fancy slippers.
this made me laugh SO hard lbs
Man was so offended that he made a whole paragraph on blaming a fact on a dog 😂😂😂😂
"He is not shy, he just does not want to be seen"
...Is that not shyness?
I'm a dementia male, where am I?
You are in the Oval Office. And you have a son named Hunter.
You sir win the internets for a week.
You're in the white house sir
@@3HEADED_RAVENtrump isn't in the white house though
@@OhioButtShakerGyattMachine9000he’s in your mom
I gotta thank Charlie. I’m only 15, and last year I was going down the rabbity hole of sigma males. Until I started watching Charlie. He actually saved me from a life of embarrassment and disappointment lol
Say you’re a sigma male with a straight face
reject being sigma, embrace parasocial relationship with penguinz0
All jokes aside, I hope you have people around you that care about you and don’t make you feel bad about yourself and what you enjoy. Teenage years are hard enough without these weird labels and it’s easy to isolate yourself and fall down these rabbit holes that lead to resentment.
Big internet hugs from this random stranger on the internet.
@@camillebarnisin2072 thank you man
watching someone’s videos is considered a parasocial relationship?
I’m a sigma mail. I’m shipped where I want, when I want, and I don’t need a return address. Most people think my small size and unassuming design make me weak, but by the time they know the real me, I’ve already exploded😤
pov: there's a pipe in your mail
😂😂😂
That’s just the IRA 😭
kaczynski grindset
lolol
I am a theta male. I vibrate on a higher frequency and I can see through walls
432 Hz BABBYYYYYYYY
The Sigma is a low self-esteem man who pretends being scared of social interaction is not only cool but dangerously cool
This doesn't sound like being an introvert. This sounds like psychosis or autism.
Nah
Yeah
Unless we`re living in the fucking Devil may cry game being sigma is way worse than being beta
It's more like "society thinks I'm shy but I am actually badass because I am sneaky and strategic".Sigma is someone who is confident in themselves and authentic at least to me.
Seriously had thought the “sigma male” thing was just an ironic joke but finding out so many people actually find this stuff relatable and unironically like it is crazy
It's astrology for dudes.
Underneath the layers of irony, there will always be people who will believe it. Lmao
It did start out as a joke, but somehow the crazies adopted it as their new religion.
@@KYLgonk its not just a religion at this point, its more of a cult where people we're thrown out of society and are now searching for revenge by filling their egos with these ""motivational"" videos.
@@victoryan4008except that astrology is rooted in ancient history, esoteric cultural practices, astronomy, sacred geometry, mythology and mathematical calculations, so it's actually even more interesting and nuanced than this bullshit 😭 at least it's complex and layered
I am a Smegma male. Don't you dare to ask me for cheese.
Can i have some cheese?
Underrated comment
@@blackpillfitness9136 I have to advise You it Is strong
Edgy...
im hungry does anyone have any cheese?
Why do people need labels, I’m just a male with goals and dreams
Charlie is so humble for not saying he's a sigma male
I’m super better than Charles
@@SussyGabrielOFFICIAL no
@@SussyGabrielOFFICIAL Pride will get you nowhere.
NO WAY, I JUST MET CHARLIE ON MY RUclips! 100% REAL! (OMG HE JUST CAME TO MY HOUSE AT 3 AM!)😱💯
@@SussyGabrielOFFICIALkeep that to yourself lmao
For being the "quiet type" all these "sigma males" are very proud to flaunt how much of a "sigma" they are on the internet
the real sigmas dont have to say it LMAO. Im joking plz dont think im serious lul
in public they dont talk probably
@@idan884 lol word
@@masondavis234 damn right! *sips on juice box*
Plus they’re using serial killers to compare themselves to lol. The movie is called “American Psycho” if anyone is wondering😂
For someone who is supposed to not care and go their own way, they spend a lot of time thinking about how other people percieve them and how they fit into a typology system that is fundamentally about a crude idea of a social heirarchy. All of this comes across as incredibly neurotic.
you made me learn 3 new words thanks
IT IS ALL ABOUT SELF CONFIDENCE. It is young men, or maybe some adults, who lack self confidence, and instead of taking healthy steps to confront it they subscribe to some elitist philosophy and convince themselves its not them its everyone else, and that their inability to manage social interactions is a good thing and makes them special.
@@anthonyquinn7747 Precisely.
Smegma male
@@Ihate_riceRed Dwarf reference?
3:30 - I was meditating in my ice bath, did you call?
I'm a sigma male, im afraid to talk to women in real life. Dont underestimate me, i will cry!
Are you really a sigma.... afraid to talk to women😲
@@homarrowe7187 it's a joke. people who label himself a sigma just delusional.
No, it's not a joke, he really is a sigma male, sigma males are traditionally opposed to talking to women for no money, and crying is a way of releasing the build up of tension that comes with the highly stressful knowledge of the power he holds but the responsability that binds him to not mutilate the person that underestimated him because he must use that energy for the grind@@miruxa. , that's the truth
@@miruxa. Yeah, Im a gamma male. Sometimes im a Upsilon male tho.
@@EleventhEntity Bruh im an Echo but on sundays im a Whiskey
It basically boils down to “They all think I’m a loser but someday they’ll all see…” it’s sad really “sigma males”. We all love you, just get over yourselves and let your walls down. Allow yourself to find good close friends and have good experiences.
@@weaselxx sounds like you haven't had real friends my guy.
@@weaselxx u gotta be a loser dawg. i still hang out with my some of my friends from around 2nd grade and we're all seniors in high school now. my dad still talks to some of his friends from hs, so friends def arent temporary.
@@weaselxx bro this a RUclips comment section not a fucking circus application.
@@soranaga7198 LMAO
@@soranaga7198LMFAO
As a weird loner, I think it's okay to just be a weird loner. You don't need to trick yourself into believing that you're actually really cool and scary, and you definitely don't need to prove it to others. What they think about you and your way of life doesn't matter if it's not harmful. What matters is that you're happy living your life the way you are. If you actually want people to like you, but you're socially inept, giving yourself an edgy persona that implies you're better than everyone around you does not do you any favors.
The big difference is whether or not being a loner is a choice or not. If it is not by choice then it feels super terrible.
As if all people are lonely out of their own will, stupid delusional bluepillers
Well you shouldn’t be ok with being a loner, you could absolutely change things but yea don’t become a sigma or alpha 😂
Remember Alpha, Beta, Sigma whatever is it. If you a man you gonna get insults for everything and anything and if something bad happens is ur fault.
You wanna talk about men's mental health ? You're an incel and probably hates all women.
I think this is sound advice for a lot of young introverts too. Many of them, along with their peers, think they need to open up and magically become a social butterfly... When it's okay to be introverted and quiet. You just need to own up to it. We see this a lot in media too where the quiet kid suddenly opens up and becomes social as a means of development. I've only seen a few shows that do the opposite where the extroverted friend(s) learn to respect the introvert's preferences. Like having chill kickbacks with the boys instead of loud house parties. That's how it should go unless the introvert has genuine social issues that need to be worked out.
I'd also like to point out that introverted =\= socially inept or awkward. If you are, you should work that out. The internet promotes what I like to call "toxic introversion." It's when introverts act like they're all misunderstood geniuses being held down by Big Extrovert™. Because of that, some of them take a weird sense of pride in being socially inept. As if it makes them better because extroverts are all just brainless party animals who lack the human nuance of introversion. That kind of crap. It's all over the internet.
Me and some of my beta buddies were having a smoke outside. A Sigma walked past us. None of us saw him. We only realised after when we all described feeling suddenly uncomfortable, like an inexplicable shadow of darkness pierced our being. For the rest of the evening, we all felt the same thing - a sense of inadequacy, of being conformists, lesser men.
The whisp of night that ghosted past us, invisible to all but the most keenly tuned senses, lingers to this day. I'll never be a Sigma but take it from me, you will know their presence in time. But only when they deem it necessary.
There's a term for this in Japanese--chuunibyou (literally "8th grader syndrome"). It's their version of being an edgelord or MC syndrome, though it's usually accompanied by pretentious anime fantasy tropes. Charlie had it right, it seems these sigma males are all trying to be mysterious and cool like Batman. It's a very adolescent thing. (The currently airing anime "The Eminence in Shadow" has a really good example of that kind of character. Some of the comments could have been lifted straight from the protagonist's inner thoughts.)
Now the thing that sigma males say they want to be--a self-assured person who doesn't care what other people think and can't be easily intimidated and is underestimated--is a worthwhile thing to pursue. But it usually takes life experience and maturity to get to that point, as well as a really strong inner sense of one's values. When you know what you want and what you stand for in life, it's much easier to move through life confidently and without fear of others' approval and judgment. And if you know you are strong, you don't need to be flexing it all the time, but hold it in reserve until it is needed.
Insofar as these sigma guys are trying to go in that direction and not towards violence or psychopathy, I'd cut them some slack. Most of them still seem to be figuring it out. It's not supposed to end there though.
Yeah I’ve heard of this
Yup, when I heard the first comment I was like, "OMG this is Chuuni as F". Eh, nothing wrong with being Chuuni IMO. Is it Cringe, yes, but no harm IMO unless you truly believe in it irl or something. (This is just internet shiposting roleplay so)
@@drzero7 autism definitely has something to do with it lol
Well said dude!
This is very well put. Thanks for sharing
As a true epsilon male, I find all of this drama really amusing.
Yeah epsilon semi morons rule the world. They just do it super secretly in their minds
Talk to us when you're a lamda male.
@@Your-Least-Favorite-Stranger What about gamma males? I’m pretty sure you’d stand no chance against a ray of literally ionizing radiation.
y'all mfs when omega male enters the room
@@Your-Least-Favorite-Stranger Look at you. Thinking youre oh so "cool" and "deep". Chi males are not even a step ahead of lambda males. They are multiple parrallel universes ahead of them. We are like the silence before the storm, that never comes...
The fact these guys are putting Patrick Bateman from American psycho in a video that’s basically displaying how they want to be perceived is pretty wild
It’s all about jawline and wearing a suit, yes I’m a gentlesir with class rather than being a boooooy. One small nudge above wearing a fedora to look like a 50’s detective. They’re stoic and cool, tapping into the secret matrix that no one around them understands. The badass psychopath is just misunderstood I swear
Imagine taking a serial killer as an example...
@@na-ky8ou Even funnier then that, he's not even a murderer, he's just insane
@@LoganFitz-h9f No, he is a murderer.
@@na-ky8ou Maybe I'm a fucking idiot and misunderstood parts of the movies but when he shouts at the bartender saying he's going to kill her or some shit she just is deadpan like he didn't say anything at all, and his lawyer says he had lunch with Paul Allen who shouldn't be having lunch because he's dead and Bateman shoots a man and the police but then just continues about the rest of the movie, if police where shoot at and fucking exploded you think that wouldn't go down queitly
constant anime quotes, from the role playing session is my favorite youtube genre.
If anybody thinks "sigma" is a thing, it's a sign they want this fantasy to exist, which then means, they are insecure and uncomfortable being themself. Which is super sad to see.
Insecurity loves labels.
@@JamesBiggaru have a cool channel
As a "sigma" . We love when you beta pretend we don't scare th shit out of you in person 😂
@@bozbozman1575 Found the ligma male
@@bozbozman1575please be satire
Charlie was a Sigma male in high-school, being an anime villain and not talking to anyone, before Sigma males were a thing. Way ahead of everyone, as usual.
If by sigma you mean a weirdo then yes lol
The Sigma male community is full of socially inept kids.
Teenage Charlie would fit right in tbh 😂
@@neusynsdid you not watch the video? being sigma Is being a weirdo.
@@neusynsnah, penguinz0 is the real sigma all along!!!🤯🤔
Omega Males
To me this just sounds like low self esteem. I can relate to this a lot actually, I couldn’t count the amount of times I’ve met someone and immediately seen them as a threat because of my own projecting. I would take little things that they would say and twist them around until I came to the conclusion that they didn’t take me seriously and didn’t like me. When in reality they were being perfectly normal and I was just projecting my own bad feelings towards my self onto them. With this way of thinking I found myself constantly having to deal with, “enemies” and “people who underestimate me” all that shit. When your biggest enemy is your self that’s hard to deal with, so you just see the enemies all around you instead. It’s sad
An excellent comment!
Glad theres someone that also noticed this
How did you overcome this ?
hope u get better bro
@@radikalray8510 Still very much a struggle for me but I’m getting better. It sounds cliche but seeking professional help was the best thing I ever did. Therapy is for everyone :)
Dude seriously, this type of videos are my favorite type of content, I laughed my head off, keep it going!! amazing stuf!!
At this point “Alpha and Sigma Male” just means “Wasn’t given proper love and guidance as a kid and now is emotionally anxious/distant”
I just call them emotional cripples.
What you fail to understand is that alpha males need to be stoic because we carry out some of the most dangerous missions fathomable. You wouldn't understand because you're at home streaming Roblox on Twitch.
@@RobbieStacks90💀
@Zenigundam missions lmao this man thinks he's Ethan Hunt
@@RobbieStacks90 "mission"
I've got a friend who unironically relates to various idols of the "sigma male" community. I feel like a parent figuring out that their kid is a gooner.
you got weird friends lol
What's a gooner?
@@aarontooth A person that goons
@@becca-tg5pn tbf I don’t think it’s terminal. Yet.
@@aarontootheither a porn or soccer enjoyer, whichever you prefer to believe
Had a friend that truly started calling himself sigma and I laughed everytime he was serious, it’s just so weird and uncomfortable for someone to talk about themselves like this, super narcissistic.
It’s hilarious however he might need help. I’ve been going through the commenrs a lot and at least the people who’ve been through this phase found it to be a coping mechanism for their self esteem, I think your friend needs to find actual, positive ways that’ll boost his mental health. It’s sad to see that the Internet promotes this delusional persona so much though.
I too have a good friend who considers himself a sigma. He believes he is the most successful guy in town yet he doesn't even have a job... We just let him enjoy himself.
In the context of the video Penguinz features this sounds more like _"Edgelords but with smarts"._
So nothing new. Those people were around forever and will be around forever.
Your such a sigma for that!!!😜💦💦
What makes me laugh is all they talk about is moving in silence which contradicts what they’re doing 🤣. Less talk and more action pls
I went the the og video and the creator turned the comments off 💀
I thought Sigmas aren't cowards LMAO! 😂😂
What I love about them overusing Christian Bale is the fact that Bale himself called out sigma bros and basically called them idiots.
Also American Psycho is a literal satire on masculinity and how absurd it is 😂
@@mage4423 Correct. Media literacy is dead with these people 🥲
It isnt
@@CundoBolsoLS9 I mean, if you take a look at the author of American Psycho, satire is kinda his thing (great book btw definitely recommend the read). Also even besides the "sigma male" of Patrick Bateman, it's still weird to romantise a murderer just sayin 🤷♂️
Manchild doesn't understand the staire of Patrick Bateman.
I learned the hard way, when a guy verbally describes himself to you as an "alpha" or "sigma", you should walk away immediately. Its such a red flag for so many cringe, weird, unnecessarily aggressive behaviors from them very early on and I dont have time for that foolishness.
If they’re just playing then go on with it I guess but to a woman this stuff is one giant red flag. Someone who is prone to snapping or having unpredictable outbursts is exhausting at best and dangerous at worst. And not dangerous in a ‘cool bad boy’ way like they’re hoping, but in like an actual needs professional help way. They think it seems mysterious to repel people until they realize that genuinely no one likes them and no one thinks they’re cool and tough.
This is exactly what they want you to believe and then they “STRIKE” 🤣🤣
Atleast the guy is straight forward and honest that you can ignore him. Try communicating with sociopaths, they are much more dangerous.
I agree but you also sound terrible for different reasons
Nah. One up them. "I'm a turbo male. You wouldn't understand."
As a Sigma male in college, i always submit my assignments 2 weeks late. Not because i am lazy or incompetent but because i only need a day or 2 to write the whole thing so I put it off until i feel like writing it. Dangerous does not even begin to describe my intellect. Look upon me and DESPAIR
Bro... teach me to be like you. I've always wanted a mentor to teach me the ways of the sigma grindset and become the ultimate sigma male. I want people to tremble in fear with just a glance of my hard and cold gaze
Omgosh bro its Patrick Balemen😮😮
@@M-su4mh Bruh these videos are so cringe. Don't know how anyone can watch em with a straight face 😂
Master!? 😭
😅😅😅😂😂😂
Me against my imaginary enemies in my imaginary world
As a sigma, lone wolf, omega, alpha male this video was enlightening and inspiring. Thank you Charlie for showing us the error of our ways. *contemplates alone*
I wish I could be as sigma as you
As a giga chad sigma, I agree.
HA! I laugh you fool. Do not call yourself sigma Infront of me. Now bow and kiss my toe you weak wolf.
super skibidi sigma
So sigma 😣😩
I wholeheartedly agree with you saying "there's nothing wrong with being normal." People often obsess so much over being unique or different that they forget to be themselves.
Exactly being a sigma is not about trying to be unique but rejecting npc-ness don’t conform to society make your own path don’t be pathetic is the message
unique just like everyone else
@@jar207I’m gonna hit you with some cold water. That’s called deviation from a sub culture. That’s a normal thing to do in a normal life. You’re normal.
@@jar207 well every message from you on this channel is pathetic 😂
Fax everyone is already unique to theyre own character and circumstances so its okay to be human like everyone else
Remember, it can't be a sigma male video without you showing a clip of John Wick, Thomas Shelby, Patrick Bateman, or Guts every 30 seconds.
@BlueRaven28Pushing your body to the limit and working out is now "incel behavior" and "toxic masculinity", whatever those girls with funny hairs may mean with that.
homelander and Joker
@@Another_Hibikinigga what
How dare they misrepresent some of the most iconic characters in entertainment
@@fathergascoigne1457 I wish i was kidding.
"I'm an alpha male."
"I'm a sigma male."
Yeah well I'm a full release male.
Alpha/Beta/Sigma/Gamma-man is so overplayed. As a Rho Male, I sit in a small boat and use a paddle.
Rho rho rho your boat
Загреб нам је далеко, Сарајево још даље,
па вам Србин поздрав по гранати шаље
Српску гранату Божја рука води,
тамо где је пошаљемо она и погоди
Зеницу не видимо, Тузла у даљини,
ал' граната погађа, Србине не брини
Српску гранату Божја рука води,
тамо где је пошаљемо она и погоди
Ја већ жалим душмане, тешко ли је њима,
јер српска граната, к'о да очи има
Српску гранату Божја рука води,
тамо где је пошаљемо она и погоди
*SRPSKU GRANATU BOŽIJA RUKA VODI*
Yeah man I'm a Tau male, zen as fuck.
You're overused in physics.
Bro's "dense" For saying he's a rho male
I’m also about 99% sure that the video was AI generated 😬
hi bud.
Oh it’s obvious, most of these people are lazy as crap to just use their voice.
I am a AI generated response
yeah for sure
AI generated now means 800 Indians working around the clock to pump out worthless slop
The idea of fixating onto your enemies is well described in -"Doppelganger"-(UPD: it's called "the Double" in english, I got it wrong) by Dostoevsky. The main character is a sigma according to this video. He is very socially awkward and really wants public appreciation, yet does nothing to improve his social skills because he thinks that the reason why he is unpopular is him being good and virtuous and "wearing a mask only at masquerade" (he says that line a lot). So everybody around is just not honest and kind enough to be able to see how good he is and how high his morals are; therefore, whenever he gets in an awkward or uncomfortable situation, he sees them as enemies that constantly are planning against him and trying to mock him or ruin his reputation.
Dostoevsky was first-class psychologist and really felt human nature deeply there is much more in a book I highly recommend to read it. I find it funny how accurate some people are depicted in his books even after almost 200 years, it shows that this is nothing new and same archetypes of people are always has been in our societies for millenia probably.
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Thanks
I just looked it up, and there doesn't seem to be any book named "doppelganger" written by Dostoyevsky. Are you, by chance, referring to "The double" ?
@@drecognishistory is like an angry mother of 4 children repeating the same thing she said to each child, but it continually gets worse.
He does mean 'The Double'@@Anonymous_Someone
The sigma video remind me myself when i was 11 years old trying to look mysterious and mature but instead of that i looked autistic and gay
😮😃
What's kinda scary about this whole thing is that I was bullied pretty hard in high school, and I made it out afterwards okay. If I had heard about this whole "sigma male" bullshit while I was in highschool, I probably would have fallen victim to it myself at that time. Kinda weird to think about
When you’re being bullied, it’s almost like you are looking for anything to try to understand who you are. As someone who was also bullied, as you age it’s just easier knowing that the bullies never took a chance to understand you but rather pushed their own insecurities onto you
“All this time I’ve realized after moving, my bullies never took the chance to be curious. If they were curious, they would ask me why and how *I got so good at playing darts*. Be curious, not judgmental”
All the best ❤
You're pretty big to admit that though.
Yeah same. I was bullied as well and always rejected by women, which led me into a incel mindset of hating all women and people around me. That was until I saw a bunch of videos making fun of incels on reddit. Those videos genuinely helped me understand how dumb I was.
. . . How the fuck would you have fallen victim to it? What about that little community would’ve victimized you? Lmfao you sound like you could use a community that teaches you not to romanticize being the victim all the time.
were you bullied or were you "bullied" because people in school called me a bully but all i did was talk mad sht. everyone caught strays but certain people thought it was targeted. just stop being so insecure bro unless people picked you up and threw you into a dumpster its not that deep.
Love that he talked about the internets obsession with being cool and scary, and that its okay to be just normal. ive been thinking alot about that over the years
I think it's ok to be just normal, normal it's cool and cooler it's being yourself.
Yeah
😅😅😅😅😅998😅
You mean spooky and not cringe*
It's okay to be average. Or, to use the official terminology: A mu male.
I moved to a new high school and had no friends, I was convinced I was smarter than everyone else and reacted defensively during every social situation. Once I let my guard down and actually treated everyone else like a person I had so many friends. If you act like everyone is out to get you, you will manifest that in others.
It's very common to feel like something is offputting and uncomfortable about people on the spectrum even if they aren't doing anything and I feel like that might the case for a lot of these kids, like they think they're better than everyone BECAUSE they tried to fit in and got rejected not the other way around.
@@kokeru Safer to say it's on a case-to-case basis. It also really depends on the environment. A shitty environment will make people be overly on-guard, which sets them up for failure in the future even if they're among better people. It kind of turns into a downward spiral where your behaviour perpetuates the isolation. You just have to realize when the problem isnt people anymore, but the way you treat and see others now..
the cops are out to get me the cops are out to get me
So you’re telling me that must indulge in the current day degeneracy of the normie majority? Why? Why must I submit and force myself to like things I don’t like or want? I want order and purity, and if that goes against the new cultural norm, than I’m obviously going to be forced to isolated and defensive…
You’re just admitting to being weak and fake. Never seeking individuality, but groupthink to “fit in”.
@@СНІМР lmao 😂
11:10 what in tarnation got me. 😭
same 😭
As someone who has grown up in an abusive household and as someone diagnosed with CPTSD, I can confirm that you feel like everyone is out to get you and you just create random scenarios in your head where you conveniently light yagami people, just to feel a little more in control. I hope these young men can find help and hope.
"Conveniently Light Yagami people." Thanks, I'm taking that one
yes i was looking for a comment like this!! there was one post in this video where i was like “that sounds like hyper-vigilance!!!” i have schizoid personality disorder which kind of results in a pathological aversion to other people, sometimes it feels like these posts are just describing what it’s like to be schizoid. we rarely seek treatment so i have to wonder how many of these young men have SzPD without knowing it.
you literally nailed it.
@@gays4holtby110 Oh my god! You're so right!
The saddest part is that if they continue down this path they will never even consider that they can seek resources and help.
light yagami as a verb....your mind...I am in awe lmfaooo
Now I'm no psychologist, but I think being a "sigma male" is a coping mechanism for bully or abuse victims who couldn't stand up for themselves most of their life. So, they put on this persona of being a sigma male that's always "two-steps ahead" and this quiet John Wick like character as a way of protecting themselves from what they perceive as future harm. Hence the "everyone's against me" mentality. It could also be some kind of power fantasy for people who feel they have mundane lives and just want an escape from their boring lives and live this epic action movie hero character they mold as a way of escapism.
But at the same time I'm not a professional therapist, so what do I know?
I agree in my non professional opinion.
The popularization of guys like Andrew Tate made older guys with solid lives unironically think “sigma/alpha male” was a legitimate thing. I know this great guy, hard worker, has a family, very genuine… Fell into the Tate pipeline and regurgitates sigma male narrative. It’s really sad imo. But who am I to judge him? He’s living a better life than me rn
Probably mockery isn't the best solution for the behavior regardless of that behaviors origin. Empathy and compassion for all or just some?
That's absolutely it. They can't call themselves Alphas because they aren't huge, sociable jocks. But they need something to make them still special.
It's both at the same time
This just seems like an entire community of guys with persecution complexes while embodying "I'm 14 and this is deep"
There's only one lambda male. Gordon Freeman
Once again, Charlie has the best advice "there's nothing wrong with just being normal." An important message for us all. Thank you, Charlie!
Charlie has basically become a teenage girl who gossips on other people. If I want to hear gossip, I’ll talk to my niece.
Normal ? He don't understand this concept. Without RUclips he be just another manlet. He ridiculed every aspect of any human behavior for internet likes.
@@mizzou1016You’re so corny
I like charlies content but it isn't really assuring hearing that from some guy who is a millionaire who is famous and makes RUclips videos
@@mizzou1016I wanna agree, but I’m also here watching his videos. I think deep down we yearn for gossip one way or another. Might as well be from one of the best
Bullied boys' power/revenge fantasies. I tried out some of these sorts of narratives in high school. I remember telling a friend that I didn't choose physical violence: instead I'd identify an aspect of my enemy's psychology that was brittle and I'd strike there. Nothing too big, but something that would do a lot of damage over time. My friend listened to all this crap and then said he didn't really understand what I meant, and asked for a specific example. He wasn't even intentionally calling me out, he was just confused about how non-specific I was being. The moment I reviewed to myself the claims I'd made and needed some receipts for, I realised I was completely full of shit.
I wish I could say I never did any of that again, but I still do from time to time. Nothing as cringey as that occasion, but I still sometimes realise that I've painted myself into a flattering and untrue corner without realising it. Or just spoken way beyond my actual level of knowledge, experience or certainty.
The common denominator in all these experiences is me. Specifically it's me talking to other people. So I find that minimising my interactions with people maximises my truthfulness. It actually provides quite a convincing illusion of virtue and therefore self-improvement, since so many of the ways to fail morally require the participation of other people. It's the moral equivalent of always skipping legs day. I think. I've never tried a legs day.
Your first paragraph is EXACTLY what I was thinking while watching the video. I was a socially awkward kid whose interactions in school were mostly either neutral or negative. I had a lot of revenge fantasies that sound along the lines of the whole "sigma male" thing. They aren't relevant in my adult life anymore, and I can't imagine holding onto them. I've actually had multiple moments when I've thought about someone I didn't get along with as a kid and thought, "maybe it would be nice to get a coffee with them."
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That's what I'm saying. It's genuinely so scary to think that if i had taken just a few wrong turns a few years back, i would've been one of those guys. I used to find the "plotting from the shadows" trope soo cool (on account of the basic overpowered main character manhwas i used to read) and it sucks to think that if people like Andrew Tate or the whole sigma thing were popular back then, i might've fallen into it
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@@revih3390
Woah dude don't skip leg day 🗿
As someone who was bullied at every school or workplace for just being an awkward and shy person I understand the feeling of everyone "attacking" teasing you. It can be pretty brutal for some people and with no support finding somewhere to belong must feel great. But the whole revenge thing is super cringe and unhealthy because you never actually act on it or if you do its only gonna make things worse. Working on yourself to become more likeable or funny is a much more productive use of your energy. It's a shame they don't lean into the positive things like creative writing or whatever is a common interest.
I’m really sorry you went through that, no one deserves that. I hope you have people around you who love and care about you because you deserve it.
Big hugs from this internet stranger.
if you have to be learn to be likeable and funny then the reason you're getting targeted by people is because of that.
@@Synysterr1999Yeah I have to learn eye contact and social cues too.
I have become confident and the people that bully the shy introverts don't confront me but they don't see me as a villain either because I don't take it far enough to be cringe.
I'm just autistic it's not my problem if you get upset because I don't follow social cues properly or how you want me to, im not following your egotisical leader or you if you are the leader because I can't notice the dominant social cues they give off to me, it's just the way I am I can't change that I try my best to respect everybody it's unhealthy to entirely fall into the whole cringy murderer stuff because you'll be the most lonely.
@@alf73 My point is more it's not always just "cringe" people being targeted, I literally minded my own business in school and college and even when I'm out walking I do, but somehow I get bothered by people and have been beaten up for literally no reason, some people literally enjoy picking on others and it's nothing to do with eye contact or awkwardness but yeah I get it, good on you for working on that
@@alf73 It's easy for this guy to put it all down to confidence but it's not always that so his comment annoyed me because some people just pick on others for the sake of it, we need to blame the people who bully for no reason and pick on people alone or helpless, not blame the victims who are trying to cope with the trauma they faced from bullies
This Alpha/Beta/Sigma mindset some have should collectively be called Eczema. Because it's a dry, irritating mindset to have
As an Epsilon male, I comment on videos long after they have been uploaded.
As a MegaMan, my arm goes pewpew.
Kifflom!
@@Neonvolendam kifflom, brother-brother!
@@Neonvolendam Kifflom!
Kifflom you space monkey!
I literally witnessed sigma male progressively turn from a sarcastic meme to an actual thing over the years. Its sickening tbh💀
It’s about time, i was waiting till the teenager “sigma male” content creators grew up.
You are not Sigma, sorry
@@xGr3mx sigma balls.
I think the more accurate progression of sigma male as a concept is:
1. The same people into alpha and beta males start believing something called Sigma males and it becomes the big new thing in that community
2. People start making fun of them
3. People make memes making fun of it and calling things “Sigma” ironically
4. Stupid people take it unironically and start seeing “Sigma” as a good thing
5. More and more people see it as a genuine unironic thing that exists
@@insertnamehere7228 while people fight for the Alpha and Beta labels, Sigma does not even care. He needs no labels or attention, he is Sigma, he has things to do
"They are strong, calculating against their opponents, puppetmasters in full control of their targets"
Sir, you work in the tech section at WalMart
I thought the same... sigma's are not getting weirder. This video is coming from a guy who looks like he works for the geek squad at best buy. Check out his background
@@jazkravitzfuk19799but he doesn’t work at best buy, he has 15 million subscribers and millions of dollars, what do you have ?
dont make him call security
You think i work at Walmart. But i'm a sigma. That's what i want you to believe. I actually work a 12 minute drive down the road from there.
Or do i?
Maybe i'm unemployed.
Maybe i'm behind you right now. Think again. that was just a ruse.
I actually work at Walmart again.
Or do i?
That's the strength of the Sigma, he is unpredictable. If you respond to this comment i won't respond back.
@@millenniumhandandshrimp2610 I'm on a Horse
im lambda male, i have been in stasis for 20 years with a crab on top of my head
fordon greeman in the flesh... or rather, in the sigma suit
My sister and I used to pretend we were SIgma males and made a lot of inside jokes back and forth back when the Sigma thing started, similar to Zodiac traits, I didn't know that it kept going and people actually are taking it seriously.
Oh you missed some funny sht mate
i remember before sigma males i always thought alpha and beta males was just a joke
It's a lot easier to cope with loneliness and insecurity if you tell yourself that you're powerful, that everyone else is wrong, that they just misunderstand or underestimate you. As much as they sound silly I feel kinda bad for them, they're just trying to cope with the curse of life.
Life is a blessing not a curse…
@@insidescuff That's just naivety my friend, one day you'll see.
@insidescuff life will humble you bro, male loneliness is at a all time high, you're probably young so enjoy it
@@MrBark1969 Lol, or my life just won't suck?
Sounding a little sigma yourself.
@@TheMrKlowb haha, I hope this is true for you in a couple of years 🤣😭🤣😭😭
What you say at 9:00 about how there's nothing wrong with being normal is on-point. Social media, the internet, and pop culture have made a lot of people think they need to be awesome at everything all the time. It affects both genders negatively. If you're a woman it's easy to think you have to be some drop-dead gorgeous diva and if you're a man it's easy to think you have to be some bad-ass action hero caricature. Self-improvement is healthy but self-loathing is not. Self-awareness is super important and so is making peace with the fact that you won't always be the coolest, smartest, best-looking, strongest, or richest person in the room. Life is neither all about dominating others nor about wallowing in your own weaknesses. It's about doing your best, being grateful for what you have, working together, and helping each other so that we can all be happy.
the comment i was looking for
underrated comment fr.
I have thought of that many times but i never allow myself because it makes me weak
I will probably start thinking about it after 50 or something
So true, gratitude is everything
@@monirk3197 think about it this way then; in a room full of people there will always be something you’re the best at. Sure, against every human on this planet there might not be anything notable that you’re the very very best at, but that’s true for nearly everyone. What matters though is that within your social circles, and within any reasonably sized room of people, you will indeed be the bet at something at least slightly notable. And the older you get the more true that will become, as you hone your talents and become your best self.
And it’s true that the best thing you can do is focus on your strengths and be your best self, instead of trying to be someone else. Though obviously all teenagers are gonna go through a phase of trying to be like others and what’s “trendy” or “desired” and that’s fine and normal, it’s an involuntary biological response because the teen years are when our brain really focuses on learning social behaviors, because evolutionarily learning to fit in would keep you from being kicked out of the pack. At the end of the day though, it’s an instinct that’s not really necessary these days. There’s always gonna be a group of people like you who will take you in. Multiple groups actually, for your multiple traits and hobbies.
Not sure why working towards your strengths and being able to use those strengths in a team with others would make you “weak” though. It sounds to me like you just need to find some good friends
It's like a post-hoc rationalisation for why they weren't more assertive or extroverted, or got told what to do by someone more dominant.
absolutely
Everyone wants to feel special and be different so they create these subclasses to feel unique in some way. It just shows how insecure they are about who they really are. I've always been quiet and wanted to be left alone and unnoticed. I never thought "I wait in the shadows for the right time to show my enemies the power I actually hold". I just thought I was weird...
In today age , nerd IS not even a subclass.
Goth turned into a fetiche.
Yo i have to agree with you but like the cringy movie clips and making it seem like being anti social is badass but I just feel like from experience I just don’t like being super social I don’t think it should be a subclass I think sigma male is more of a joke that some insecure men use to go to a fantasy land
"to show my enemies the power I actually hold" Could be a good self-motivation if applied in a good way. Sadly these people focus too much on the "enemy".
Be a nerd, and study hard so you can be successful in the future, that should be it. The need to show everyone or to "hit" the enemy ironically shows that their minds are still enslaved by their enemies.
@@brandonmoore4259 Every single grifter pretending to be some manly man (despite contradicting themselves in their own definition of being a true man) is a fucking sociopath. To actively avoid society when society has to yet even reject you is a sign that you are not a fucking trustworthy or stable person.
And if you listen to people like Tate talking about their childhood... they're all parental abuse victims. It is ALWAYS their dads forcing them into a specific lifestyle, doing specific things at specific times without even asking if they want to or not, meanwhile the same dads actively abuse both the son AND the mother and somehow manages to alienate the son from the mother, despite both being victims of the abuse. Abuse.... can turn you into an abusive sociopath or psychopath.
@@brandonmoore4259you do realize sigma male means introverted no need for personal attacks man
He isn’t shy just doesn’t want to be seen.
Literally the definition of being shy.
I'm not quiet. I just don't like talking.
Literally the definition of being a ninja.
Well, unless you're a fugitive
@@JediMasterBaiterMore like, doesn’t talk much.
@@MarioSantos-zx4bjhe isn't shy he's just resisting arrest
Its sad, these dudes are trying to cope so hard with their social anxiety that they live in a fantasy world
You'd be surprised how common Escapism is our society, everything is so interconnected due to globalization of social media, that people feel the need to stand out. Heck? Who wants to be normal when I could be just like that super, edgy cool character from X or become just like X celebrity? Being normal isn't normal anymore my favourite trend to represent this is the NPC trend where people who act normal or unentertaining aren't considered "real". We all just want to be special (gonna say tho that my use of "all" is vague as obviously not everyone is influenced the same way)
@outofmind9222 There's nothing wrong with having social anxiety. It does become wrong when you weave these stupid stories to yourself to cope. I had bad social anxiety. I couldn't look people in the eye. I have turned to these "sigma" or "outsider men" ideologies once, but eventually I had to become an adult. In order to live a more stress-free life I had to give up caring about how people perceive me. The store clerks and other customer service workers HAVE TO and WILL accommodate my awkwardness. Eventually I learned how to behave properly in social settings. I started working harder, so I didn't need to image people knowing I'm competent at things without me giving these edgy, childish warnings. Hell, even confrontation is something I still need to work on, yet these "sigmas" jerk off over confrontations that they only ever have the balls to have in their heads. Why am I shit talking people who are suffering from this too? Because COPE is the wrong path to go down and it evidently doesn't work. Never has. Never will.
@@outofmind9222 it wasnt a personal attack on you bro, that is if you dont unironically think of yourself as a sigma male. this is the internet, lots of people here have anxiety or other social problems. I have a pretty severe case of, thankfully high-functioning, autism. I dont feel attacked by this shit because im not a moron who believes in alpha beta sigma bs. Its just funny to point and laugh at those people.
@@outofmind9222insecure much? He’s not saying all anxious/whatever you are people are “sigma” wannabes. He’s saying the sigma wannabes are projecting, like you are right now.
They act like they're playing among us, and they're the imposter 💀
i like how sigma male started as half joke half serious parody of the "alpha male grindset", then went full meme, then had actual good messages talking about mental health, acceptance, self-love and improving one self.
Then it went full incel and now we're circling back to it becoming the next "alpha male grindset"
Some guys are just too desperate to be cool, edgy, and in charge. It's sad. They need help.
@BeastSupreme735ok, I won’t translate that then.
Some of these incels have to still be people just trolling right? Right?
@BeastSupreme735What kind of elvish is this?
As a former member of the greek letter male incel community, the concept of a sigma male came about years before the alpha male grindset meme, and it was totally serious. I’m talking 2017-2018 little high school me was reading charts about omega males and sigma males. The alpha male grindset shit was a meme made based off of the serious communities that spawned these ideas.
My last boss was a super jacked, vocal, aggresive dude who was almost 50 and identified as a sigma male. He believed in horoscopes and was constantly giving pseudo ted talks at work everyday, he could wax on about himself and how he operated in life for hours. One day, when he was talking about alpha/sigma male cringe, I said he was more like a ligma male. He asked what that was. I've never had such a big belly laugh at someone elses expense, but I know if I was a dude he prolly woulda bucked up to me fr 😂 still woulda been worth it though
Lmao
And then everybody clapped 🎉😂
Ligma male XD
😂
Got 'em
Sigma was supposed to be the way to make fun of people who called themselves "alpha". Not a real fake thing, but a fake fake thing. But of course people are actually calling themselves that now. If there's a crown, whether it's fake or not, people will fight over it.
Oh I love that last line! So true. May I borrow?
Personally I’d prefer to be a gamma male
By definition gamma is stronger than alpha therefore I am gamma male
@@jar207 yooo found the rage baiter
Definitely a Lambda statement
You know as someone who is quiet and just observes the stuff and people around him I can safely say it’s not because I’m a sigma. It’s because I’m autistic
A lot of this sounds like undiagnosed autism and social anxiety
Classic sigman male avoiding the label and going his own way. I am your biggest fan. What was it like being born from the clear crystal that is the sky, almost indistinguishable from that which is undoubtedly pure? I wonder about various things in life, but the common denominator is always you. I admire and cherish your confidence to mark your own journey in this time of followers and fakers. Reject the status quo. Accept your individuality. Reality is what you make of it until they disagree. Then it is what they want. You refuse this and must continue to carry the torch, pathing the way for all those who are brave enough to take a single step in the split grass trail where you have run. There are no sigmas. Only those who are free and those who follow. You are the lone heat seeking missile aimed at the hottest element in the universe. You aim for the (T1/1)ruth.
Thank you, AaronTobias5243
I do it and I’m not autistic, just have a high understanding of social behavior
As someone who also does it, i can confirm i am not a sigma either. I am just killing time by observing others.
@@producedby3am344sigma sounding ass
Charlie, I applaud you for staying humble even though we all know you are infinitely stronger than a sigma with that godly physique
💀
Rock on 🤘
glazing
Charlie kept mentioning sigmas, alphas and omega males. But he didn't dare to speak about delta males. He knew he couldn't handle us, so he didn't even try. Smart man right here. Did the right move and kept his life for it
What are we going to do when we run out of Greek letters for this?
@@michaelkaminski1166Can use normal words like Prime Males 😂
@@michaelkaminski1166Use English words. Cheesecake males.
@@michaelkaminski1166we then go to prime numbers. I'm a 69.
thats because he was *eleven* steps ahead
🤣🤣🤣 this gotta be one of the funniest videos I've ever found on the internet about this topic
I was described by all of my teachers throughout High School as a very quiet kid in school. (This is true by the way) But never, ever, had I ever had this delusional mentality that I’m seeking revenge. The real reason I was quiet in all of my classes in High School was because I was attentive, focused and learning what was taught.
Those who are “quiet and seeking revenge,” absolutely need help from a mental health professional immediately before they hurt themselves or others or even worse, KILL.
EDIT: I was referring to the “revenge plot” part that Charlie mentioned in this video. I felt like some people didn’t fully understand what I was talking about.
Bullied fantasies bro, as I was bullied I can see how they would find comfort in this lol but you would never find me doing this 😂
Being a sigma is a way of life something the commoners here will never understand I’ve accepted sigmaism in my life and turned it around I went from skinny kid to respected kid who gets all the maidens
I was the other and should have been watched, lol.
@@jar207you’ll see one day my boy, just be kind
I was quiet from huffing all the glue and markers
It’s just insecurity. People feel insecure about being antisocial or appearing weaker and want something or someone to tell them that their insecurities are actually strengths and make them special
Exactly they're like what Tyler durden is to jack in fight club
This is exactly what all of this is about.😂
Originally it wasn't tho. It was more like the redpill/self improvement stuff with the "sigma grindset" way of living. Usually ideas with time and different communities taking a spin get changed very much.
@xIX-uu5hmYeah your 0 videos are so good
@xIX-uu5hmyour one video yeah?
Being on the autism spectrum comes with a lot of downsides. For me, I was insecure and had social issues, but as I got older I learned more about myself rather than letting these "inspirational" Charltons corrupt me. Being good is simply being kind, not putting somebody in a box of their "hero's" creation. Fans of people think like these sigma males haven't seen the world for themselves yet, and have been groomed into thinking this is their bubble and they should not be anything else. It's truly sad really the world we live in.
I am kind to people who are shy Introverts because I was a shy introvert but I am not shy anymore. I am also autistic and some people that lead groups are offended when I don't follow their lead.
My autism makes me not notice that they want to have power over me and I think they are wrong in trying to make me similar to them.
If I try and follow them then I feel as if I am betraying my confidence, being bent the wrong way and it just doesn't feel right to follow the leader and accept averageness when I can work hard to achieve my own success.
I dont wan't to be a leader of anyone but I feel like I could be the leader of the shy Introverts but leading is just unnessary and requires to much effort.
I don't understand all the nonsense to do with having eye contact that makes you more powerful than them or any of this cringe. I learned how to do basic eye contact and I'll make eye contact with people around me it just makes sense.
I still feel connected to people around me I'm not this weird sniper out to kill I just don't use heuristics you should search up the definition of heuristics, autistic people don't have them but everyone else does.
I am the same way for the most part apart from my main issue being that I struggle with learning part apart from my main issue being that I struggle with learning about who I am. I have no idea where to start, and I have no idea how people figure it out.
All I like to do is play VR with random people and try to make others' days a little better. It's really tragic that people get sucked into stuff like the sigma and "I'm not like other guys" mindsets because all it does is give them memories to cringe about themselves in the future. about who I am. I have no idea where to start, and I have no idea how people figure it out.
All I like to do is play VR with random people and try to make others' days a little better. It's really tragic that people get sucked into stuff like the sigma and "I'm not like other guys" mindsets because all it does is give them memories to cringe about themselves in the future.
...it's charlatans btw
@@alf73Autistic people absolutely have heuristics. In fact for many they can un-learn their autistic behavior. They just may be deficient in noticing patterns in some areas (most notably, social cues)
@@CrizzyEyes No…? Autistic people often times have issues with tasks like socializing because they lack the ability to generalize. Each situation is a completely new situation. However, autistic people are significantly better at recognizing patterns than normal people; it’s a large part of the reason why around 80% of savants have autistic traits. Also, it isn’t possible to “unlearn” autistic behaviors. You can mask them, sure, but if you do that for too long your brain throws a fit due to the dissonance because you’re not being true to yourself. I would know, I am autistic, and have done a shit-ton of research to figure out workarounds for my deficiencies.
Is this not just the omegaverse for men having an identity crisis
sigmas: We don't follow the pack. We make our own road.
also sigmas: *looks up traits that make people sigmas*
And mirror those traits like a herded sheep. Lolol
Of course following your own path doesn’t mean not taking inspiration from others dumb take soyboy!
In middle school I was a "sigma male". At the time, I was being bullied relentlessly and I had no friends. In that environment I was not "normal" and no matter how hard I tried I could not change that. I was furious at the world and wanted nothing more than to hurt those who hurt me, but I knew that any attempts at retaliation would only make my life worse, so I did nothing except wish I could get revenge. What I've come to realize is that sigma males are just people who are hurt and alone. They are sad and angry and they pretend that they will get revenge, in what I believe is an attempt to establish control over their lives.
You put it very well. I had the exact same miserable middle school experience. As a result, I can totally understand how people end up on the sigma male path and was once there myself to an extent. However, a lot of the sigma male community have gone too far down the rabbit hole and let their delusions go too far, as showcased by the comments in that video.
The funny thing is, I had a similar experience in highschool.. but as I got into the later years I realized how pointless retaliation was.. I essentially gave up on making friends and went home whenever I could. The irony is that got me labeled as a school shooter type... in australia lol.
Not everyone in my year was bad though, made friends in year 12, I guess I was just unlucky.
So Sigma males are schoolshooter in waiting? That's honestly how all this sounds.
So what I get is "sigma males are losers". Got it.
@@Death-999 i don't understand why people just look at young men who have been shit on by life and just decide to shit on them more. Its this shit why these dudes fall into these dumb sigma and alpha things in the first place