The Raiders' move to Las Vegas, was such a blow to the fans and people of Oakland. The announcement even got Oakland native Marshawn Lynch to come out of retirement to play on the team before they leave so that he can show the kids of Oakland that there can be a homegrown football star
And yet so much of their fanbase don't care where they play---I saw a fan casually posting about being a season ticket holder in Oakland, L.A., Oakland, and presumedly Las Vegas---that the stadium continued to sell out despite being a lame duck team. I honestly wonder if any local fans in LV got the chance to buy tickets for "their" team.
Honestly the Titans and Colts are more of rivalry than the Titans and Texans. Houston doesn't really recognize the Titans as the Oilers. The Oilers are still a part of Houston's sports history and tradition. Even with a new nfl franchise in town.
The AFC North is the Steelers, and the Browns Spawn....the Ravens, Bengals, and New Browns were all birthed off the original Browns in one way or another
There's definitely an edge to the Browns-Ravens rivalry because of the move to Baltimore, and I'm sure Texans fans feel the same way whenever they play the Titans, but Rams-Cardinals? The Rams never left Phoenix, and the only thing that the recent franchise move does for their part is that the Rams now play in a much more hated city than St. Louis. Of course, after their games they can meet up at a bar and trade brags over who screwed over St. Louis the most.
Fun fact: Normally, here at M&T Bank, the scoreboard will read the teams nicknames.. so for example it'll say "Ravens - Steelers" when we play Pittsburgh. When the Colts come to town, it reads "Ravens - Indy"
Yeah, the Rams will be fine. Their "attendance issues" were somewhat misleading because they were playing in the 100,000-seat L. A. Coliseum, so OF COURSE a 50,000-60,000-fan crowd, which would be a good-sized crowd in a normal-sized stadium, looked like the stadium was half-empty in the Coliseum, because, you know, the stadium WAS half-empty.
The Chargers started life as the Los Angeles Chargers. The Rams started out as the Cleveland Rams. I'm sick of billionaire owners wanting cash strapped cities buy them new stadiums. The cities never get their money back.
Hardly anyone recognizes the Chokers and would've preferred the Raiders to relocate back to L.A., while the Chokers either remain in San Diego or relocate to Las Vegas. As for your Packers? They're definitely remain in Green Bay for the long-term.
@@DieYuppiieSkum the raiders I rather have the silly nannies than the raiders who can’t even make the wildcard 🤣🤣 foo can’t even get a double digit record so nah stay in Vegas lmaoooo
Growing up in SoCal I'd have to say that the following for the Rams is definitely there, there's just too much other stuff going on and many times fans are ok with watching on TV instead of gearing up and doing the stadium thing every home game.
Side note: the Modell move to Baltimore would later contribute to saving the MLS’s Columbus Crew from a similar move to Austin, Texas. Cleveland Browns owners Jimmy and Dee Haslam purchased the team in 2018 to keep them in Columbus, but it was the laws that Ohio enacted after Modell left Cleveland that was the real contribution.
Although the raiders move was a blow to the fans from what I’ve seen the raiders fanbase are still loyal as ever and Las Vegas has welcomed them with open arms. On top of that ticket prices are the highest in the league and every game is selling out safe to say the raiders have a bright future in Vegas
@@thehistoryman9332 Curious to know if you would still be a Raiders fan if they'd have moved to San Antonio, which was also a possibility at one point. That said, I'm glad that if the Raiders had to leave Oakland that they ended up in Vegas.
@@StarStatik Imagine a current league with the St Louis Stallions, LA Rams, San Diego chargers, Houston oilers, and Baltimore colts. Indianapolis gets an expansion team called the racers, Tennessee gets there titans by expansion, the Panthers and Jaguars still exist, and pretty much everyone is happy.
@@danieldougan269 with the Cardinals maybe? Kind of weird to think what the layout of the NFL would be if Colts stayed in Baltimore. The Browns wouldn’t of left for Baltimore.
Side note on the Houston Oilers/Tennessee Oilers/Tennessee Titans relocation--they played the 1997 season in Memphis, but they played the 1998 season at Vanderbilt Stadium in Nashville due to low attendance at the Memphis games (they did have a game with over 50,000 fans once, but most of them were Steelers fans).
@@MNsportsnut I was at that sellout. Got to see Ryan Leaf beat our Oilers. Didn't know it at the time but in hindsight, very embarrassing! Fans have been crazy about the Titans ever since they got their stadium.
I think moving the raiders to las vegas was a smart move. A lot of raiders fans (besides those near oakland) would rather drive 3 ish hours to las vegas than 4+ hours to oakland. Mainly cuz a LOT of people in orange county are raiders fans. And there are quite a few in arizona as well, since many didn't like the cardinals before due to them yknow sucking until murray came along. And adding a new las vegas and reno fanbase too. It was a very smart move on the raider's part.
Now we need a baseball relocation rankings, World Series era. NOTE: The first World Series was also the first season of the New York Highlanders/Yankees (formerly Baltimore Orioles 2.0). So I'm not going to include them in my rankings. 11. Kansas City A's 10. Milwaukee Brewers 3.0 09. Texas Rangers 08. Washington Nationals 07. Milwaukee Braves 06. Minnesota Twins 05. Atlanta Braves 04. Baltimore Orioles 3.0 03. Oakland A's 02. San Francisco Giants 01. L.A. Dodgers
There are some details about the Colts relocation from Baltimore to Indianapolis that I think were worth mentioning. The Maryland General Assembly was about to pass legislation to let the city of Baltimore to seize the team for the city using eminent domain rights to prevent the team from moving. So the owner moved the team overnight using multiple trucks that took different routes to prevent the city and state from stopping them.
As a Texans fan I’m confident to say that the oilers move is by far the WORST move in nfl history. Oilers recorded millions in revenue and even tho they weren’t allowed to build a new stadium within the city they could’ve done what Dallas did and make it outside the city. Cities like Katy, Cypress and even Galveston had areas big enough to build a new stadium. Moving to Tennessee was bad move especially when Texas is bigger in population so it brings more fans even now the Texans have a bigger fan base than the titans. Bad move for business🤦🏽♂️.
It's not so much how much room there is, it's the fact that stadiums are super expensive, and most of that expense is footed by taxpayers. So Arlington, where the Dallas Cowboys Stadium is, has almost 400,000 people in it. The largest suburbs of Houston don't have even half of that. A city like Katy probably would reject the idea of a large-scale stadium because of the sheer amount of money it would take to build.
In the case of Art Modell, both greed and incompetence. He was supposedly offered a new stadium in the same area that Jacob's (Progressive) Field is at. He has a cushy deal that leased municipal stadium for $1 a year and was able to charge the baseball team to play there. Baseball team gets new stadium, he cannot charge then rent. He goes nearly broke in Cleveland because he cannot manage money even with an extremely loyal fanbase that would sellout a 80,000 seat stadium each week. He moves team to Baltimore and still goes broke and is basically forced to liquidate his shares of the team. Other notes: Al Lerner who was awarded the Browns when they came back into the league, helped Art Modell move the team to Baltimore in the first place.
i’ve never understood why they even relocate teams. chargers were fine in san diego. They just need to keep the teams we’re they are and not lose the fans they have
These TPS video’s have gotten so much better than what they used to be. Which was over explaining the entire play and constantly and I mean CONSTANTLY talking about Malcome Butler. It was the same video over and over. Much better now, I hope to see more improvements
Moving the Rams back to LA, the Cardinals to Arizona and the Raiders to Las Vegas were no brainers. Most of the rest of the moves hurt their fan bases and should never have happened. Especially the Colts abandoning Baltimore and the Browns becoming Poe’s Crows!!! Neither Oakland, nor St. Louis are fit for human habitation, let alone an NFL team!!!
Yeah it was a great move for the Rams and they actually got to be in L.A. again. Before they went to St. Louis in the 1990s, they actually were no longer in L.A. but in Anaheim. They were only L.A. in name only at the time but played in an entirely different county. It's similar to how they refer to the Angels in baseball when they actually play in Anaheim.
@@landusrigsby3776 Surprised the Rams never received the amount of backlash the Angels did, but maybe it’s because the Los Angeles Rams was too historical to drop. The Angels got sued by every city in OC and the Dodgers wanted to make sure that no one else used LA at all.
@@landusrigsby3776 But does LA care about them? They made the super bowl a couple years a go and it looked like a Patriots home game. In fact they went around LA asking people there about the Rams and nobody seemed to know anything or who any of the players were.
Every Home game for the Chargers this season will be a road game, every team on their home schedule travels well, but the Spanos family doesn't care who's at the game, it's all about the $$$$$$$$
and then lost half that following and tarnished that dynasty when gangbangers starting fighting and shooting each other in the parking lot. Moving to LA may have expanded the fanbase to 2 cities, but it also tarnished a team that was one of the NFL's storied franchises. to this day that reputation follows them everywhere they go.
@@firebirdlover4460 that's part of the dynasty. Lots of fans in LA because of nwa and former gangs. LA isn't a soft city like the Rams portrayed in the 80s and 90s
I miss the Houston Oilers, The Oakland Raiders, The St.Louis Cardinals, and the San Diego Chargers. I'm glad the Rams went back, but truthfully, don't know why they left St. Louis. The Rams definitely had a lot of success there. They shouldn't have moved. I'm an old school Denver Broncos fan, by the way. Regardless, I can appreciate our rivals, and classic teams.
The Browns move to Baltimore came due to the incompetence of Modell. He was so poor at managing money and used the massive lease payments from the Indians to cover. He was offered to be part of the project that built new facilities for the Cavs and Indians, but he refused. Once the Indians moved out and he no longer got concession revenue, luxury box revenue, and ticket revenue from them, his finances began to fall apart. Baltimore, who had a team leave earlier, did the scummy thing and offered a ransom to steal another team like what had happened to them. Modell moved on it quickly because he was in bad financial straits and he claimed he wanted to leave the team to his son - even though others offered to buy the Browns. In the end, Modell couldn't clean things up in Baltimore and still needed to sell the team. Browns fans fought hard against this. The team averaged more than 70,000 per game in 1995 and the fan base was strong. A new stadium could have happened, but Modell didn't want to wait and was concerned the Buccaneers would take the money ahead of him. The fight the Browns fans put up guaranteed the team would return, that Baltimore could never claim the history of the team, and that the NFL/Baltimore/Modell would contribute to building the new stadium in Cleveland. All this because Modell was in severe violation of the lease he signed. Long term, I'm glad Baltimore got a team back, but still wish it was not at Cleveland's expense. The Browns were poorly managed from the beginning. I much would have preferred Ozzie Newsome stayed in Cleveland.
The NFL forced Baltimore’s hand, between what happened with the Colts, the joke that was the 93 expansion and then Paul Tagliabue’s line saying the city would be better off building a museum.
@@EH-sx6do Tagliabue and Cooke can fuck themselves. I wish I could bring Cooke back to life for a day just so he could see how shitty his Redskins(sorry, his COMMIES 😂🤣) have become
@Andrew Henrickson 2016: Rams from St. Louis (Missouri) to Los Angeles (*California*) 2017: Chargers from San Diego (*California*) to Los Angeles (*California*) 2020: Raiders from Oakland (*California*) to Las Vegas (Nevada)
Hey TPS, there is so much left out about the STL to LA move not covered but I understand due to time constraints. Right now STL is taking the NFL to court which threatens to show not only the NFL finances but also everything else that was hidden. Also the NFL is doing a damn good job of keeping this hidden from the public eye
@@themcpolo The NFL and STL have since settled out of court for $790 million. And L.A. did no such thing as chase the Rams out. It was all planned by Georgia Frontiere when she took over ownership after her husband and original owner Carroll Rosenbloom passed away.
its a bit of both, the Oakland Coliseum is crap. Even the A's wanted a new stadium. But Al and Mark wanted Oakland to pay for the whole stadium in which Oakland said fuck no.
I'm not from the US and it blows my mind that teams can relocate. Like imagine Bayern moving to Berlin, Man United moving to Liverpool, becoming "Liverpool United" and Real Madrid moving to Barcelona, like "Real Barcelona". So weird 😂
The Chargers move broke my heart I am from San Diego I just remember burning jerseys everywhere people were even breaking eggs over them people were doing other things to them the head for the Chargers he’ll always be in my heart and as well as the rest of San Diego I hate the owner forever
Don’t worry you’ll definitely get your chargers back as most of it’s fan base is in still in San Diego so it’s only a matter of time before their back home in SD stay strong.
Finally, NHL relocation rankings, post-original six era. NOTE: Includes the Carolina Hurricanes WHA years as they actually started out in Boston, not Hartford. Does not include the Cleveland Barons as they are dead, and no, they did NOT merge with the North Stars, otherwise, Minnesota and Cleveland would have been sharing home games with each other instead of Minnesota getting them all! 9. Colorado Rockies 8. Arizona Coyotes 7. Hartford Whalers 6. Carolina Hurricanes 5. Dallas Stars 4. Winnipeg Jets 2.0 3. New Jersey Devils 2. Colorado Avalanche 1. Calgary Flames
That was also the case for the Colts. But what really drove then away was the fact that the Mayor of Baltimore & the state legislature conspired to steal the team from Irsay
You are so right, Raiders and Warriors were the big cash cow for Oakland, yet the mayor despised the Raiders, and in my opinion Mark Davis isn't the business man his dad was, Al Davis would have made the deal in Sacramento...RIP Me Davis
NBA relocation rankings since the league's inaugural season in 1946. NOTE: Includes the San Antonio Spurs ABA years, Baltimore and Washington D.C. as separate markets (check the TV and radio affiliates), New Orleans Pelicans considered the relocated team even with them getting stripped of their history by Charlotte. 20. Milwaukee Hawks 19. San Diego Clippers 18. Sacramento Kings 17. Kansas City Kings 16. Cincinnati Royals 15. New Orleans Pelicans 14. L.A. Clippers 13. Memphis Grizzlies 12. Baltimore Bullets 11. Atlanta Hawks 10. Oklahoma City Thunder 09. Washington Wizards 08. Detroit Pistons 07. St. Louis Hawks 06. Utah Jazz 05. Golden State Warriors 04. Houston Rockets 03. Philadelphia 76ers 02. San Antonio Spurs 01. L.A. Lakers
I know there’s recency bias but you forgot the Chargers moving from LA to San Diego in 1961, the Rams from Cleveland to Los Angeles in the 40s, the Cardinals from Chicago to St. Louis in the 60s and the Redsk…err, Football Team from Boston to Washington DC in the 30s
@@philipgregorymaingot7722 Actually, the league DID vote in favor of her moving. However, it was only after she threatened a lawsuit that the league let her move. In other words, she pretty much forced them to let her move. I believe that the league should have taken her up on her challenge, and forced her to stay. The reason why is that I agree with what Dan Rooney said at the time that relocation should only be used as a last-ditch effort for a team with no chance at succeeding in their current market, which was not the case for the Rams at the time. Yeah, the Rams weren't very good in their final years, but I know that the league (correctly) accused Georgia of mismanaging the team (i.e. being a bad owner), which is why they rejected the move at first.
The chargers shouldn't have moved from san Diego. And if they had too. They should moved them to Oklahoma for the branding at least. (Cuz of the OKC Thunder)
I'd say that the my city of Baltimore made out in this relocation. 2 Super Bowls wins. 3 HOFers (Soon to be 5 HOFers) a young dynamic quarterback, Top 10 defense every year since relocating.
@@whosaidthat84 Oakland is in the bay area right next to San Francisco, Berkeley and other nice areas. If you don't grow up in California or haven't even been then you don't know what your talking about.
@@alabamabro1162 I'm well aware. He built the team and as he agrd he nearly destroyed them. His son is no better. Typical example of the idiot son inheriting the family business
Las Vegas was a brilliant move. People forget LV is more than the strip and is home to over 2 million people. If the Raiders are anything like the Golden Knights I’d say it’s a jackpot.
7:13 Actually the St. Louis Cardinals won the 1964-65 Playoff Bowl (Bert Bell Benefit Bowl), which is officially considered a post-season game by the NFL.
the “far more away fans than local supporters” for Chargers is also true for the LA Kings. if you’re not the Lakers or Dodgers, you’re going to have a hard time here in LA due to the large transplant population
You have to love that they didn’t mention the fact that the Colts didn’t even tell Baltimore they were leaving and did it in the middle of the night. It’s like they are trying to hide the fact that they should have stayed in Baltimore and could have won there
I remember the Raiders moved to L.A. in 1982 and then moved back to Oakland in the 90's and it ended until 2019 when the team moved to Las Vegas in 2020 and I'm still a fan of the team itself and I think it's just plain stupid that mark Davis makes me mad at him for move to the team to Nevada and I think it's just a shame that he did something odd and I don't like it at all
Cardinals move is #1! Cardinals could of moved to Baltimore, Memphis or Jacksonville instead while Arizona would of had an expansion team called the Arizona Firebirds.
Lmao San Diego didn’t have a “passionate fan base” every game was like a home game for the away team. BUT moving them to LA was just dumb. And how could the move from LA to St Louis be called a success if they just moved back like 15 years later. And towards the end of St Louis Rams we’re just an empty stadium
You can have a passionate fanbase but not a big one. San Diego has a lot of people who move from other parts of the country that bring their own loyalties there, but the core of native San Diegans were diehard fans
I'm on the east coast. The Chargers will always be SD to me. Rams belong in LA. Raiders in Lv and not Oakland is such a disrespect to Oakland who feels inferior to San Francisco.
Because they won a superbowl in st.louis they sold out every game for 12 years it took 10 seasons of the worst football to not sell out a game any city wouldn't go see a team that terrible for that long. St.louis totally supported the Rams it was shitty ownership that was unsuccessfull.
@Fat fish with wings my biggest rub with the Ravens is how hostile the fan base is to the Colts because “Indianapolis stole their team”, while the circumstances are eerily similar to how Baltimore got the original Cleveland Browns. Seems a bit hypocritical to me
@@nicholasselke5214 My biggest rub is how Browns fans believe there is any similarity whatsoever. One scenario had the MD Stadium Authority agreeing to build a new stadium to appease Irsay who then moved the team in the middle of the night to another city with zero NFL history because they had an existing new unused stadium at the ready. As compared to the other scenario that had Model requesting much needed upgrades to Cleveland's stadium and being facepalmed by Cleveland as being 'broke' and unable to do, having just spent $500M of Jacobs Field, Gund Arena and the Rock & Roll HOF thus daring Modell to move. Maybe if the city of Cleveland was more dedicated to keeping the Browns than taking care of their other sports teams and HOF while giving Model the middle finger, things could've been different? Throw in 13 years of being in the NFL abyss with broken promises of expansion to replace the Colts vs being immediately guaranteed an NFL expansion within 3 years for Cleveland, along with a new stadium. Cleveland has ZERO to bitch and moan about. ZERO similarity whatsoever. And INDY can go F themselves. Bush league town and fan base! Maybe you and other Brownies can work on your history a little better but that might take away from the 'whoa is us' mentally Cleveland loves to play up for themselves.
Interestingly enough, the Titans v. Colts rivalry has turned into one of the underrated rivalries in the NFL, with Interstate 65 (Which links both Indy & Music City) bragging rights on the line, plus I've noticed that Louisville, which used to be in Bengals territory, has quietly become a divided city; sure, you're still gonna have Bengals holdouts, but with I-65 being the main artery going through L-Ville, it's almost gotten to the point where you're either a Colts fan or a Titans fan there in the same manner if you live in Cowtown (Columbus, OH), you're either a Bengals fan or a Browns fan (and maybe a sprinkling of Steeler Nation there while we're at it!)......
As a Cleveland boy, I hate your decision lol but it makes sense because u don’t live in Cleveland and Baltimore went on to win a super bowl with what used to be the browns team in 2000.
San Diego and Oakland refused to assist in helping these teams either build new stadiums or finance renovations. Usually that's the reason for most relocations in any sport. One city's trash is another city's treasure.
My rankings: 10. The return of the L.A. Chargers 09. St. Louis Rams 08. L.A. Raiders 07. Las Vegas Raiders 06. The return of the L.A. Rams 05. Arizona Cardinals 04. The return of the Oakland Raiders 03. Tennessee Titans 02. Indianapolis Colts 01. Baltimore Ravens
I have to say this everytime someone says that the Colts name doesn't fit Indy. Indiana has a storied history of horse racing. Harness racing to be specific. Dan Patch, one of the greatest harness racing horses, was from Indiana. Granted nobody cares about harness racing anymore, but the history is still there. And also, the Indiana Pacers are not named after car racing like everyone thinks. They are named after the pacers of harness racing. So the name Colts does fit the area nicely.
@@DUBEE43 that is true. His criteria for want made a move good seemed to be results on the field. Not weather it made sense. I rate this with the Clippers leaving SD to be the third tenant at Staples. LA will always be a Lakers town. They should move back to SD
The problem with the Las Vegas move from Oakland isn't solely that Mark Davis is a greedy owner. A lot of it stems from the fact Oakland (the city government that is) flat out doesn't care about keeping its teams in the area, as evidenced by the Warriors moving to SF in 2019 and the A's likely on their way out as well in spite of a great ballpark proposal. While the Rams and Chargers had actual stadium proposals ready for their respective cities, the city of Oakland didn't even bat an eye to any proposal the Raiders had in mind. Heck, there are no renderings of a new Raiders stadium because it wasn't even worth it to spend effort making one. Oakland itself deserves massive blame for the Raiders leaving. Additionally, Las Vegas is very close to Los Angeles, meaning a lot of Raiders fans down there can still support them.
Great News is Libby shaft I believe is no longer Oakland Mayor so very possible now that Oakland can demolish the current coliseum and build a new one in it’s place to lure back the Raiders and in return the league gives Las Vegas and expansion team everyone wins.
The Buffalo Bills to Austin is gonna be GREAT! 😝🤣🤣🤣🤣
They going to win a championship win in Austin.
😂😂
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No it isn't
The Buffalo Bills to Austin will never gonna happen. One word Jerry Jones
The Raiders' move to Las Vegas, was such a blow to the fans and people of Oakland. The announcement even got Oakland native Marshawn Lynch to come out of retirement to play on the team before they leave so that he can show the kids of Oakland that there can be a homegrown football star
As a Chiefs fan I agree
Actually, I have found the relative lack of a reaction from the Oakland fan base interesting.
What real efforts did the city of Oakland do to keep them? The A’s are about to ditch that city
@@KingRodDeLaGhetto I agree they had no space for them and their only space was old and they had no budget
And yet so much of their fanbase don't care where they play---I saw a fan casually posting about being a season ticket holder in Oakland, L.A., Oakland, and presumedly Las Vegas---that the stadium continued to sell out despite being a lame duck team. I honestly wonder if any local fans in LV got the chance to buy tickets for "their" team.
Having the Browns-Ravens, the Rams-Cardinals, and the Titans-Texans in the same divisions really makes for some interesting rivalries.
Honestly the Titans and Colts are more of rivalry than the Titans and Texans. Houston doesn't really recognize the Titans as the Oilers. The Oilers are still a part of Houston's sports history and tradition. Even with a new nfl franchise in town.
The AFC North is the Steelers, and the Browns Spawn....the Ravens, Bengals, and New Browns were all birthed off the original Browns in one way or another
There's definitely an edge to the Browns-Ravens rivalry because of the move to Baltimore, and I'm sure Texans fans feel the same way whenever they play the Titans, but Rams-Cardinals? The Rams never left Phoenix, and the only thing that the recent franchise move does for their part is that the Rams now play in a much more hated city than St. Louis. Of course, after their games they can meet up at a bar and trade brags over who screwed over St. Louis the most.
@@danielhess1082 The unique thing about the AFC North is that it's the only division in the NFL where all four cities can be driven to in one day.
Art Modell is burning in hell for what he did to Cleveland, burn baby burn.
Fun fact: Normally, here at M&T Bank, the scoreboard will read the teams nicknames.. so for example it'll say "Ravens - Steelers" when we play Pittsburgh. When the Colts come to town, it reads "Ravens - Indy"
I think the Rams will be fine, why the Chargers had to follow suit the same time was stupid asf.
Kronke wanted to max his investment. He wins no matter what.
Roger had a hard-on to get 2 teams in LA.
@Brett Hoff no, the rams are LA. You can have the bills, they are looking at moving.
Yeah, the Rams will be fine. Their "attendance issues" were somewhat misleading because they were playing in the 100,000-seat L. A. Coliseum, so OF COURSE a 50,000-60,000-fan crowd, which would be a good-sized crowd in a normal-sized stadium, looked like the stadium was half-empty in the Coliseum, because, you know, the stadium WAS half-empty.
The Chargers started life as the Los Angeles Chargers. The Rams started out as the Cleveland Rams. I'm sick of billionaire owners wanting cash strapped cities buy them new stadiums. The cities never get their money back.
Best relocation if it happens- Chargers move back to San Diego! I'm just grateful that it would be next to impossible for my Packers to move!
Hardly anyone recognizes the Chokers and would've preferred the Raiders to relocate back to L.A., while the Chokers either remain in San Diego or relocate to Las Vegas. As for your Packers? They're definitely remain in Green Bay for the long-term.
@@DieYuppiieSkum the raiders I rather have the silly nannies than the raiders who can’t even make the wildcard 🤣🤣 foo can’t even get a double digit record so nah stay in Vegas lmaoooo
No stadium and no tax dollars for a stadium make the possibility of the Chargers moving back to SD monumentally difficult.
If the Packers move it would be to Milwaukee
Green Bay technically owned by the city itself. Yore safe.
Growing up in SoCal I'd have to say that the following for the Rams is definitely there, there's just too much other stuff going on and many times fans are ok with watching on TV instead of gearing up and doing the stadium thing every home game.
Side note: the Modell move to Baltimore would later contribute to saving the MLS’s Columbus Crew from a similar move to Austin, Texas. Cleveland Browns owners Jimmy and Dee Haslam purchased the team in 2018 to keep them in Columbus, but it was the laws that Ohio enacted after Modell left Cleveland that was the real contribution.
Although the raiders move was a blow to the fans from what I’ve seen the raiders fanbase are still loyal as ever and Las Vegas has welcomed them with open arms. On top of that ticket prices are the highest in the league and every game is selling out safe to say the raiders have a bright future in Vegas
Were a fanbase not loyal to one city, we just love the raiders as long as they stay in the west
Most Raiders fans i know actually like the raiders in Las Vegas because overall it's closer for most of them to go to vegas than oakland
@@kimyonaproject 😂 living in socal it was faster to go to Vegas, plus what does Oakland have to offer them
@@coledoucette5116 im in socal too but not a raiders fan but I jave an associate that is a large one
@@thehistoryman9332 Curious to know if you would still be a Raiders fan if they'd have moved to San Antonio, which was also a possibility at one point.
That said, I'm glad that if the Raiders had to leave Oakland that they ended up in Vegas.
My dad was so happy when the Rams came back to LA, he’s been a fan of the team since the late 60s
If only you knew what really brought you that team
@@StarStatik if you only know what brought GF that team that should’ve never moved to Stl.
@@rspister I agree we should’ve gotten the stallions in 92
@@StarStatik that’s right. 👊
@@StarStatik Imagine a current league with the St Louis Stallions, LA Rams, San Diego chargers, Houston oilers, and Baltimore colts. Indianapolis gets an expansion team called the racers, Tennessee gets there titans by expansion, the Panthers and Jaguars still exist, and pretty much everyone is happy.
I hope St. Louis gets a football team again. We have lost two teams now, which sucks because this city loves football so much.
They should take the Chargers!
I don’t lol
Four if you count the Gunners and All Stars.
Battlehawks
Both moves it was NFL that moved them.
STL fought for both.
Still wish Baltimore had the Colts and Houston had the Oilers.
Yep
So, where would that leave us in Indy? Those other cities have teams again.
@@danieldougan269 with the Cardinals maybe? Kind of weird to think what the layout of the NFL would be if Colts stayed in Baltimore. The Browns wouldn’t of left for Baltimore.
I wish Colts had stayed and never have rise to the ravens.
I sure don't.
Side note on the Houston Oilers/Tennessee Oilers/Tennessee Titans relocation--they played the 1997 season in Memphis, but they played the 1998 season at Vanderbilt Stadium in Nashville due to low attendance at the Memphis games (they did have a game with over 50,000 fans once, but most of them were Steelers fans).
Even at Vanderbilt in 1998, the only sellouts were Chargers (home opener), Steelers & Vikings. The latter 2 had more Visiting team fans.
@@MNsportsnut I was at that sellout. Got to see Ryan Leaf beat our Oilers. Didn't know it at the time but in hindsight, very embarrassing! Fans have been crazy about the Titans ever since they got their stadium.
@@americantoff3236 That Chargers team actually started 2-0 but then the wheels fell off after that.
Gotta love history of these teams. Just hit me that the Chargers should have never left for LA.
I think that the Raiders might just start playing their home games in a moving van!
Shhhh, don't say anything about moving vans concerning the old Baltimore Colts.
I think moving the raiders to las vegas was a smart move. A lot of raiders fans (besides those near oakland) would rather drive 3 ish hours to las vegas than 4+ hours to oakland. Mainly cuz a LOT of people in orange county are raiders fans. And there are quite a few in arizona as well, since many didn't like the cardinals before due to them yknow sucking until murray came along. And adding a new las vegas and reno fanbase too. It was a very smart move on the raider's part.
Now we need a baseball relocation rankings, World Series era.
NOTE: The first World Series was also the first season of the New York Highlanders/Yankees (formerly Baltimore Orioles 2.0). So I'm not going to include them in my rankings.
11. Kansas City A's
10. Milwaukee Brewers 3.0
09. Texas Rangers
08. Washington Nationals
07. Milwaukee Braves
06. Minnesota Twins
05. Atlanta Braves
04. Baltimore Orioles 3.0
03. Oakland A's
02. San Francisco Giants
01. L.A. Dodgers
There are some details about the Colts relocation from Baltimore to Indianapolis that I think were worth mentioning. The Maryland General Assembly was about to pass legislation to let the city of Baltimore to seize the team for the city using eminent domain rights to prevent the team from moving. So the owner moved the team overnight using multiple trucks that took different routes to prevent the city and state from stopping them.
So where did Irsay move Baltimore city to then? I thought he moved the TEAM.
@@derrickgoodman8434 oops typo, lol. That would be impressive if he could move the city, especially overnight.
As a Texans fan I’m confident to say that the oilers move is by far the WORST move in nfl history. Oilers recorded millions in revenue and even tho they weren’t allowed to build a new stadium within the city they could’ve done what Dallas did and make it outside the city. Cities like Katy, Cypress and even Galveston had areas big enough to build a new stadium. Moving to Tennessee was bad move especially when Texas is bigger in population so it brings more fans even now the Texans have a bigger fan base than the titans. Bad move for business🤦🏽♂️.
The Texans should have went with light blue rather than navy blue as a symbolic middle finger to Bud Adams.
It's not so much how much room there is, it's the fact that stadiums are super expensive, and most of that expense is footed by taxpayers. So Arlington, where the Dallas Cowboys Stadium is, has almost 400,000 people in it. The largest suburbs of Houston don't have even half of that. A city like Katy probably would reject the idea of a large-scale stadium because of the sheer amount of money it would take to build.
All these relocations all go back to one thing: greedy/incompetent owners
Also owners not giving a shit
@@Tacofiend92 at least the Texans care about the city more than the fans care about the team
In the case of Art Modell, both greed and incompetence. He was supposedly offered a new stadium in the same area that Jacob's (Progressive) Field is at. He has a cushy deal that leased municipal stadium for $1 a year and was able to charge the baseball team to play there. Baseball team gets new stadium, he cannot charge then rent. He goes nearly broke in Cleveland because he cannot manage money even with an extremely loyal fanbase that would sellout a 80,000 seat stadium each week. He moves team to Baltimore and still goes broke and is basically forced to liquidate his shares of the team.
Other notes: Al Lerner who was awarded the Browns when they came back into the league, helped Art Modell move the team to Baltimore in the first place.
i’ve never understood why they even relocate teams. chargers were fine in san diego. They just need to keep the teams we’re they are and not lose the fans they have
Also owners who like making money, like we all do.
Rams won the Super Bowl a week ago IN SOFI STADIUM!
These TPS video’s have gotten so much better than what they used to be. Which was over explaining the entire play and constantly and I mean CONSTANTLY talking about Malcome Butler. It was the same video over and over. Much better now, I hope to see more improvements
I love how when he said, “Although they are consistently at the bottom of the standings” he showed a clip with Nathan peterman in it
Moving the Rams back to LA, the Cardinals to Arizona and the Raiders to Las Vegas were no brainers. Most of the rest of the moves hurt their fan bases and should never have happened. Especially the Colts abandoning Baltimore and the Browns becoming Poe’s Crows!!!
Neither Oakland, nor St. Louis are fit for human habitation, let alone an NFL team!!!
I think the Rams moving back to LA was a good move. They got a modern stadium and it’s a bigger market. Hopefully St.Louis gets an expansion team
They almost did back in the 90's it was given to Jacksonville instead.
@@dvferyance who gives a shit about them in Jacksonville give us the team we rightfully deserved #stlouisstallions
Yeah it was a great move for the Rams and they actually got to be in L.A. again. Before they went to St. Louis in the 1990s, they actually were no longer in L.A. but in Anaheim. They were only L.A. in name only at the time but played in an entirely different county. It's similar to how they refer to the Angels in baseball when they actually play in Anaheim.
@@landusrigsby3776 Surprised the Rams never received the amount of backlash the Angels did, but maybe it’s because the Los Angeles Rams was too historical to drop. The Angels got sued by every city in OC and the Dodgers wanted to make sure that no one else used LA at all.
@@landusrigsby3776 But does LA care about them? They made the super bowl a couple years a go and it looked like a Patriots home game. In fact they went around LA asking people there about the Rams and nobody seemed to know anything or who any of the players were.
Every Home game for the Chargers this season will be a road game, every team on their home schedule travels well, but the Spanos family doesn't care who's at the game, it's all about the $$$$$$$$
The LA Rams now have a Super Bowl win.
Raiders created a huge following and dynasty when they moved to LA. Definitely not the worst
and then lost half that following and tarnished that dynasty when gangbangers starting fighting and shooting each other in the parking lot. Moving to LA may have expanded the fanbase to 2 cities, but it also tarnished a team that was one of the NFL's storied franchises. to this day that reputation follows them everywhere they go.
@@firebirdlover4460 that's part of the dynasty. Lots of fans in LA because of nwa and former gangs. LA isn't a soft city like the Rams portrayed in the 80s and 90s
I miss the Houston Oilers, The Oakland Raiders, The St.Louis Cardinals, and the San Diego Chargers. I'm glad the Rams went back, but truthfully, don't know why they left St. Louis. The Rams definitely had a lot of success there. They shouldn't have moved. I'm an old school Denver Broncos fan, by the way. Regardless, I can appreciate our rivals, and classic teams.
They left because Stan Kronke is a scum bag. The guy literally grew up less than an hour outside St.Louis. He's known as a traitor around here.
@@GeneralFrankenberry may stan kroenke never go unfucked
The Browns move to Baltimore came due to the incompetence of Modell. He was so poor at managing money and used the massive lease payments from the Indians to cover. He was offered to be part of the project that built new facilities for the Cavs and Indians, but he refused.
Once the Indians moved out and he no longer got concession revenue, luxury box revenue, and ticket revenue from them, his finances began to fall apart. Baltimore, who had a team leave earlier, did the scummy thing and offered a ransom to steal another team like what had happened to them. Modell moved on it quickly because he was in bad financial straits and he claimed he wanted to leave the team to his son - even though others offered to buy the Browns. In the end, Modell couldn't clean things up in Baltimore and still needed to sell the team.
Browns fans fought hard against this. The team averaged more than 70,000 per game in 1995 and the fan base was strong. A new stadium could have happened, but Modell didn't want to wait and was concerned the Buccaneers would take the money ahead of him. The fight the Browns fans put up guaranteed the team would return, that Baltimore could never claim the history of the team, and that the NFL/Baltimore/Modell would contribute to building the new stadium in Cleveland. All this because Modell was in severe violation of the lease he signed.
Long term, I'm glad Baltimore got a team back, but still wish it was not at Cleveland's expense. The Browns were poorly managed from the beginning. I much would have preferred Ozzie Newsome stayed in Cleveland.
The NFL forced Baltimore’s hand, between what happened with the Colts, the joke that was the 93 expansion and then Paul Tagliabue’s line saying the city would be better off building a museum.
@@EH-sx6do Tagliabue and Cooke can fuck themselves. I wish I could bring Cooke back to life for a day just so he could see how shitty his Redskins(sorry, his COMMIES 😂🤣) have become
Since I was born in 2010, I’ve only seen 3 teams move, and they’re all in the west
Born in 2010?!!! 😱 Lol the kids are growing up
Why u on the internet at 11!?
And all have involved California
@Andrew Henrickson 2016: Rams from St. Louis (Missouri) to Los Angeles (*California*)
2017: Chargers from San Diego (*California*) to Los Angeles (*California*)
2020: Raiders from Oakland (*California*) to Las Vegas (Nevada)
@KC2119 all west of the Arch (gateway to the west)
Video Idea: rank the expansion teams in how well they were doing, and the cities support
Yes the Texans replaced the oilers but it was never the same after that
Hey TPS, there is so much left out about the STL to LA move not covered but I understand due to time constraints. Right now STL is taking the NFL to court which threatens to show not only the NFL finances but also everything else that was hidden.
Also the NFL is doing a damn good job of keeping this hidden from the public eye
And we'll never know how crooked they were since Stan paid billions for it to go away.
Rams shouldn't have been in St. Louis to begin with
Funny, LA originally chased the Rams out.
@@themcpolo The NFL and STL have since settled out of court for $790 million. And L.A. did no such thing as chase the Rams out. It was all planned by Georgia Frontiere when she took over ownership after her husband and original owner Carroll Rosenbloom passed away.
You probably thought the St Louis was getting an expansion franchise huh??😂
I'm here after the Rams won the Super Bowl lol
Talks raiders move to Vegas talks about ownership and never mentions anything about the city of Oakland lmao great in depth video
its a bit of both, the Oakland Coliseum is crap. Even the A's wanted a new stadium. But Al and Mark wanted Oakland to pay for the whole stadium in which Oakland said fuck no.
I'm not from the US and it blows my mind that teams can relocate. Like imagine Bayern moving to Berlin, Man United moving to Liverpool, becoming "Liverpool United" and Real Madrid moving to Barcelona, like "Real Barcelona". So weird 😂
On god , The US is all about the money and not about the history and fan base
The Chargers move broke my heart I am from San Diego I just remember burning jerseys everywhere people were even breaking eggs over them people were doing other things to them the head for the Chargers he’ll always be in my heart and as well as the rest of San Diego I hate the owner forever
Don’t worry you’ll definitely get your chargers back as most of it’s fan base is in still in San Diego so it’s only a matter of time before their back home in SD stay strong.
Day 23 of asking for: 2 most underrated players from every team
Day 1 of: Stop asking. Don't care.
Finally, NHL relocation rankings, post-original six era.
NOTE: Includes the Carolina Hurricanes WHA years as they actually started out in Boston, not Hartford. Does not include the Cleveland Barons as they are dead, and no, they did NOT merge with the North Stars, otherwise, Minnesota and Cleveland would have been sharing home games with each other instead of Minnesota getting them all!
9. Colorado Rockies
8. Arizona Coyotes
7. Hartford Whalers
6. Carolina Hurricanes
5. Dallas Stars
4. Winnipeg Jets 2.0
3. New Jersey Devils
2. Colorado Avalanche
1. Calgary Flames
The Nashville predators were an expansion team in the NHL no team moved to Nashville via relocation
Hm TPS you forget to note that the city of Oakland refused any new stadium for the raiders like they did with the warriors and now the A’s SMH
That was also the case for the Colts. But what really drove then away was the fact that the Mayor of Baltimore & the state legislature conspired to steal the team from Irsay
You are so right, Raiders and Warriors were the big cash cow for Oakland, yet the mayor despised the Raiders, and in my opinion Mark Davis isn't the business man his dad was, Al Davis would have made the deal in Sacramento...RIP Me Davis
NBA relocation rankings since the league's inaugural season in 1946.
NOTE: Includes the San Antonio Spurs ABA years, Baltimore and Washington D.C. as separate markets (check the TV and radio affiliates), New Orleans Pelicans considered the relocated team even with them getting stripped of their history by Charlotte.
20. Milwaukee Hawks
19. San Diego Clippers
18. Sacramento Kings
17. Kansas City Kings
16. Cincinnati Royals
15. New Orleans Pelicans
14. L.A. Clippers
13. Memphis Grizzlies
12. Baltimore Bullets
11. Atlanta Hawks
10. Oklahoma City Thunder
09. Washington Wizards
08. Detroit Pistons
07. St. Louis Hawks
06. Utah Jazz
05. Golden State Warriors
04. Houston Rockets
03. Philadelphia 76ers
02. San Antonio Spurs
01. L.A. Lakers
I know there’s recency bias but you forgot the Chargers moving from LA to San Diego in 1961, the Rams from Cleveland to Los Angeles in the 40s, the Cardinals from Chicago to St. Louis in the 60s and the Redsk…err, Football Team from Boston to Washington DC in the 30s
He said relocations in the super bowl era.
Wow I miss the old Rams logo. (The white/yellow ram)
The new logo has got to be the worst in all of sports.
After the CLEVELAND Rams' last season in 1945, they moved to Los Angeles
Nice catch
Who honestly cares almost no one was alive then
Can you do ranking every teams color rush jersey
That’s not a bad idea
Seattle has the best
Cut to February 1st, 2022: 49ers fans just completely took over SoFi. That wouldn't have happened in St. Louis.
What’s crazy is the rams only super bowl win was in St Louis
Maybe it will change next week
Rams won NFL championships before it was called a Super Bowl. In fact, Rams were the first professional team in Los Angeles to win a championship.
Relocations that NEVER should have been approved: Chargers from SD, RAMS from LA, Browns from Clev., and Oilers from Houston.
You mean Rams from St Louis
The league never approved the Rams move from LA to STL. Georgia ignored the league owners vote and left anyway.
@@haydenshaffer6384 they should never have been in st louis, hate to say it. Their whole time there, it always felt off
Baltimore Colts should have never left Baltimore either.
@@philipgregorymaingot7722 Actually, the league DID vote in favor of her moving. However, it was only after she threatened a lawsuit that the league let her move. In other words, she pretty much forced them to let her move.
I believe that the league should have taken her up on her challenge, and forced her to stay. The reason why is that I agree with what Dan Rooney said at the time that relocation should only be used as a last-ditch effort for a team with no chance at succeeding in their current market, which was not the case for the Rams at the time. Yeah, the Rams weren't very good in their final years, but I know that the league (correctly) accused Georgia of mismanaging the team (i.e. being a bad owner), which is why they rejected the move at first.
Petition for a rich guy to buy the Chargers and relocate them back to San Diego
The chargers shouldn't have moved from san Diego. And if they had too. They should moved them to Oklahoma for the branding at least. (Cuz of the OKC Thunder)
As someone who grew up rooting for the Rams in 1960's, the best move is the return of the Rams to their longtime home, Los Angeles.
Ur 60???
@@klaykensports5016 He'd be at least 80
@@huasdvyudfvhuidafv yeah I got kinda confused I thought he said he was 60 lol my bad
Raiders Still more popular in LA
@@DarthRaider not for long
I'd say that the my city of Baltimore made out in this relocation. 2 Super Bowls wins. 3 HOFers (Soon to be 5 HOFers) a young dynamic quarterback, Top 10 defense every year since relocating.
And to add to that, you won the Super Bowl before Indy did
Sofi stadium literally looks like a airport
It’s close by LAX.
The Rams Returning to LA and The Raiders going to Vegas have been W's in My Book #WestCoastDominance
Dominance!? 🤣😂
Totally agree! Oakland and St Louis are shit hole towns 🤣
@@whosaidthat84 Oakland is in the bay area right next to San Francisco, Berkeley and other nice areas. If you don't grow up in California or haven't even been then you don't know what your talking about.
I think the fact that the Raiders have moved so much is a good indicator of the quality (lack of) of the ownership...
the city never would build them or the a’s a new stadium so they had to move. the stadium’s were in a horrible state
Oakland is broke.
Al Davis made more than enough money off the people of Oakland he could've built his own stadium
@@flyinelvis69 Al davis is dead
@@alabamabro1162 I'm well aware. He built the team and as he agrd he nearly destroyed them. His son is no better. Typical example of the idiot son inheriting the family business
@@flyinelvis69 True
Las Vegas was a brilliant move. People forget LV is more than the strip and is home to over 2 million people. If the Raiders are anything like the Golden Knights I’d say it’s a jackpot.
Do you think the Chargers would’ve had any similar success the Raiders are having if they went to Vegas instead of LA?
7:13 Actually the St. Louis Cardinals won the 1964-65 Playoff Bowl (Bert Bell Benefit Bowl), which is officially considered a post-season game by the NFL.
Can you guys do a list on All-Time Best Football teams, before the super bowl era?
We’re going to act like the Dallas Texans to Kansas City Chiefs wasn’t the greatest move of all time!?
Almost nobody knows about that...it also happened before the Super Bowl era and was an AFL move. Like the Los Angeles Chargers moving to San Diego.
Rams and Chiefs are the only two teams that left theirs cities were they born after winning a Championship Rams in 1945 and Texans/Chiefs in 1962
Awesome video
the “far more away fans than local supporters” for Chargers is also true for the LA Kings. if you’re not the Lakers or Dodgers, you’re going to have a hard time here in LA due to the large transplant population
Agreed. LA only likes Lakers and Dodgers....and now the Rams are in the big game on home turf.....WTH??
You have to love that they didn’t mention the fact that the Colts didn’t even tell Baltimore they were leaving and did it in the middle of the night. It’s like they are trying to hide the fact that they should have stayed in Baltimore and could have won there
ha ha I forgot about that
I remember the Raiders moved to L.A. in 1982 and then moved back to Oakland in the 90's and it ended until 2019 when the team moved to Las Vegas in 2020 and I'm still a fan of the team itself and I think it's just plain stupid that mark Davis makes me mad at him for move to the team to Nevada and I think it's just a shame that he did something odd and I don't like it at all
Moving the chargers to L.A was just straight out dumb and selfish
I wish the Houston Oilers would’ve stayed and still be around today as they were.
Im a Viking fan but one of the best team songs was the Houston Oilers song. Effin greedy owners
@@timfoley332 I’m a Packers fan, but I would wear an Oilers jersey on a Thursday or Friday to throw it back to those Oilers days. #TBT #FBF LLHO🔵⚪️🔴
Oilers > Texans
As a Raiders fan I absolutely loved the move to Vegas. The move to LA was much worse.
Cardinals move is #1! Cardinals could of moved to Baltimore, Memphis or Jacksonville instead while Arizona would of had an expansion team called the Arizona Firebirds.
Or even more funny. The Phoenix Phoenixes
great video
Lmao San Diego didn’t have a “passionate fan base” every game was like a home game for the away team. BUT moving them to LA was just dumb. And how could the move from LA to St Louis be called a success if they just moved back like 15 years later. And towards the end of St Louis Rams we’re just an empty stadium
You can have a passionate fanbase but not a big one. San Diego has a lot of people who move from other parts of the country that bring their own loyalties there, but the core of native San Diegans were diehard fans
I'm on the east coast. The Chargers will always be SD to me. Rams belong in LA. Raiders in Lv and not Oakland is such a disrespect to Oakland who feels inferior to San Francisco.
Because they won a superbowl in st.louis they sold out every game for 12 years it took 10 seasons of the worst football to not sell out a game any city wouldn't go see a team that terrible for that long. St.louis totally supported the Rams it was shitty ownership that was unsuccessfull.
@@ryanneistat2981 thank you
San Diego has been cursed by BAD owners. Dean Spanos, Don Sterling, Jeff Moorad, Tom Warner and Gene Klein. SD is not a bad sports market
11:33 ERROR
The Colts won SB 41 NOT 43
cant forget the “move” for the eagles going to arizona
that wouldkve been crazy
philadelphia cardinals?
arizona eagles?
Anyone else catch that he said the Colts won Super Bowl 43 after already talking about the Cardinals losing Super Bowl 43 to the Steelers?
As a browns fan I was hoping that you wouldnt put the ravens at number 1 :(
Ravens are my favorite afc team so I support it.
@Fat fish with wings my biggest rub with the Ravens is how hostile the fan base is to the Colts because “Indianapolis stole their team”, while the circumstances are eerily similar to how Baltimore got the original Cleveland Browns. Seems a bit hypocritical to me
@@nicholasselke5214 My biggest rub is how Browns fans believe there is any similarity whatsoever. One scenario had the MD Stadium Authority agreeing to build a new stadium to appease Irsay who then moved the team in the middle of the night to another city with zero NFL history because they had an existing new unused stadium at the ready. As compared to the other scenario that had Model requesting much needed upgrades to Cleveland's stadium and being facepalmed by Cleveland as being 'broke' and unable to do, having just spent $500M of Jacobs Field, Gund Arena and the Rock & Roll HOF thus daring Modell to move. Maybe if the city of Cleveland was more dedicated to keeping the Browns than taking care of their other sports teams and HOF while giving Model the middle finger, things could've been different? Throw in 13 years of being in the NFL abyss with broken promises of expansion to replace the Colts vs being immediately guaranteed an NFL expansion within 3 years for Cleveland, along with a new stadium. Cleveland has ZERO to bitch and moan about. ZERO similarity whatsoever. And INDY can go F themselves. Bush league town and fan base! Maybe you and other Brownies can work on your history a little better but that might take away from the 'whoa is us' mentally Cleveland loves to play up for themselves.
You should do a video on the 10 best players ro win mvp this NFL season
Raiders played the Bucs in Super Bowl XXXVII (37) not XXXVI (36). Super Bowl XXXVI was NE vs St. Louis.
It's TPS, do you really expect them to be intellectuals?
And Manning won superbowl 41, not 43... Such silly mistakes, looks like they write the scripts in a rush
Interestingly enough, the Titans v. Colts rivalry has turned into one of the underrated rivalries in the NFL, with Interstate 65 (Which links both Indy & Music City) bragging rights on the line, plus I've noticed that Louisville, which used to be in Bengals territory, has quietly become a divided city; sure, you're still gonna have Bengals holdouts, but with I-65 being the main artery going through L-Ville, it's almost gotten to the point where you're either a Colts fan or a Titans fan there in the same manner if you live in Cowtown (Columbus, OH), you're either a Bengals fan or a Browns fan (and maybe a sprinkling of Steeler Nation there while we're at it!)......
FYI the Rams came from Cleveland back in the day.
As a Cleveland boy, I hate your decision lol but it makes sense because u don’t live in Cleveland and Baltimore went on to win a super bowl with what used to be the browns team in 2000.
San Diego and Oakland refused to assist in helping these teams either build new stadiums or finance renovations. Usually that's the reason for most relocations in any sport. One city's trash is another city's treasure.
*US sports. In Europe people don't even know that something like moving a team is even possible, since every sports team is always about the city^^
We love the cardinals here in Arizona and Phoenix is one the fastest growing cities. When they first got here we were a small market now not so much
My rankings:
10. The return of the L.A. Chargers
09. St. Louis Rams
08. L.A. Raiders
07. Las Vegas Raiders
06. The return of the L.A. Rams
05. Arizona Cardinals
04. The return of the Oakland Raiders
03. Tennessee Titans
02. Indianapolis Colts
01. Baltimore Ravens
I find your ranking better.
This is the real ranking right here.
The success of the CFL in Baltimore could have helped too, in bringing the NFL there
Indy shouldn’t have been allowed to keep the Colts name. It makes no sense for the city. It’s a logical name for a Baltimore team.
At least Baltimore has the Lombardi Trophy. Or I should say, the duplicate.
I have to say this everytime someone says that the Colts name doesn't fit Indy. Indiana has a storied history of horse racing. Harness racing to be specific. Dan Patch, one of the greatest harness racing horses, was from Indiana. Granted nobody cares about harness racing anymore, but the history is still there. And also, the Indiana Pacers are not named after car racing like everyone thinks. They are named after the pacers of harness racing. So the name Colts does fit the area nicely.
I'm not a Chargers fan, but I feel bad for San Diego. I often call them San Diego Chargers by accident from time to time, it just sounds more natural.
What are you talkin about San Diego had a loyal fan base?every time I went there to go see a Denver game it was full of Orange
Right lol I remember watching San Diego games on TV and it was all away fans at the game. They didn’t have a loyal fan base
Right? Total misnomer. That stadium was taken over by other teams’ fans more times than not.
Little known fact. The Raiders played their first two seasons in San Francisco.
There was like 70,000 fans when I went to the the training camp last week. I'm quite confused🧐
? What do you mean
Of Rams fans!?
@@user-vy2fy7gf9o There was literally almost no walking space, don't even know how we got out of there
Puro Rams!
Good to see LA support Rams
Day 1 asking ranking Every MVP seasons since the last 20 years . Love from Nigeriq
Saying the Chargers relocating to LA is the worst is an understatement... This is coming from a Chargers fan 😬
The chargers aren't that good enough and they were never good.
The Cleveland Rams to Los Angeles. Who remembers that move ?
Yeah and now the RAMS ARE CHAMPS!!!
Any here after the chargers had less fans in Sofi than raiders fans last night.
Day 20: top 10 best/worst QB's taken between rounds 2-5
I feel like UrinatingTree would have some choice words about this list…
At least the ST. LOUIS RAMS WON A SUPER BOWL!!!!! A RATHER AWESOME ONE AT THAT!!!!!👍
Then totally blew it 2 yrs later. And 18 yrs later the LA Rams lost. Sb 34 the Titans almost got em. Great sb indeed
@@williamberry4615 That's ok, IT WAS WORTH THE WAIT!!!!!
The move was stupid to St Louis and ownership regretted from year 2. The second the lease was up they were gone
@@Hogtownboy1 Oh well, SO GLAD THEY GOT THE RING 👍
@@DUBEE43 that is true. His criteria for want made a move good seemed to be results on the field. Not weather it made sense.
I rate this with the Clippers leaving SD to be the third tenant at Staples. LA will always be a Lakers town. They should move back to SD
Just seen the raiders stadium while I was in Vegas it is BEAUTIFUL !
how tf are the Rams too early to tell? we would still be ass if we stayed in St. Louis and Mcvay wouldn’t be our coach...
Kroenke didn’t give a damn about winning in STL 🙄, Rams coach would still be Fisher if they were still here lol.
The problem with the Las Vegas move from Oakland isn't solely that Mark Davis is a greedy owner. A lot of it stems from the fact Oakland (the city government that is) flat out doesn't care about keeping its teams in the area, as evidenced by the Warriors moving to SF in 2019 and the A's likely on their way out as well in spite of a great ballpark proposal. While the Rams and Chargers had actual stadium proposals ready for their respective cities, the city of Oakland didn't even bat an eye to any proposal the Raiders had in mind. Heck, there are no renderings of a new Raiders stadium because it wasn't even worth it to spend effort making one. Oakland itself deserves massive blame for the Raiders leaving. Additionally, Las Vegas is very close to Los Angeles, meaning a lot of Raiders fans down there can still support them.
It also allows orange county raiders fans. (Which are alot as well) to not spend 4+ hours driving to Oakland and instead drive 3 to Las Vegas
Great News is Libby shaft I believe is no longer Oakland Mayor so very possible now that Oakland can demolish the current coliseum and build a new one in it’s place to lure back the Raiders and in return the league gives Las Vegas and expansion team everyone wins.
Every teams most underrated player
In case you've forgotten the Chargers began in the AFL in 1960 as.....The Los Angeles Chargers. They moved to San Diego the following year.