I find it so ironic that Nicole, who's a total troublemaker and part of an odd-job agency, has particularly good synergy with an upstanding, reliable, by-the-books cop lady
thank you i wanted ellen and soldier 11 i lost the 50/50 and got soldier and now due to your blessing i got ellen early on about 30-40 pity and i got lycaon from standard banner
Can I just say how much I appreciate you making actual informative content on the game instead of just shitting on it? Most of my usual go-to channels have put out nothing but hate toward the game, and it's getting more than a little grating. Like damn, man, if you don't like it, don't play it. Ain't no reason you gotta post eleven videos about how much you hate it when the people who are actually searching for ZZZ content are just looking for goddamn gameplay guides. I digress, keep up the good work, man.
Ikr. I try to search for ZZZ content on YT and most of what pops up are just hate videos or toxic drama. It's nice to have a go-to cc that actually has a productive video and not just whine for 10+ minutes. I'm not saying they have to dck ride Hoyo everytime but damn, we get it... they hate the game so they should just move on.
I prefer longer videos because your knowledge of games with elements reminiscent of fighting games, and having these ways to change the gameplay that's just shown to you is something I like. Can't wait to hop on and learn these characters gameplay potential. Unfortunately, others aren't providing this depth of insight, but I'm glad to have someone to watch for detailed gameplay info.
Wait I have Lycaon available for me so is Ellen good or should I save for miyabi? I can make these teams with either Lycaon,soukaku,Ellen/miyabi If I go for Ellen I can get the Victoria faction buff If I go for miyabi I can get the shiyu defense force buff
@@Försvar_OpsEllen/Lycaon/Sokaku are the current best team in the game. Lycaon will also work really well with Miyabi. Either one would work due to ice/faction bonus for the main DPS. So pick a fav I guess. Don’t know when Miyabi is coming, and I’d rather get Ellen.
Yo can you PLEASE make a Combo guide video for every character? You're the most knowledgeable CC on this, and it's a kind of content only YOU can do. Thanks in advance for the awesome videos
Genuinely don't think you can go wrong with either character, but I'm going for Zhu Yuan because she just looks so fluid to play. I think fast paced characters are a lot more valuable in this game than the slower ones so she seems like she'll probably stay meta for a while just for that reason. Also great video, nice to see someone cover the game with FGC experience because that brings a welcome perspective to analysis for the game that most other YTers covering ZZZ won't have.
As a long time Souls player I really appreciate your take on things and how in depth you go with how you can play around with the mechanics in this game. While the game itself isn't a challenge necessarily, it's the fact that I can no challenge myself to learn these mechanics or little tricks that will make playing characters more fun/engaging. I really look forward to the future of this game and how I can mess around with different playstyles and gimmicks. Really appreciate your content man, only stumbled across you a week before ZZZ launch and you're who I been solely watching outside of build guides and what have you. Keep it up!:
I gonna need that video on W-engines I hope people dont sleep on them. HSR and Genshin you can get away with not having sig weapons as for HI3rd you can always craft and use alts options.
Absolutely excited for this as I LIKE how hard HSR is. Genshin has a super low skill floor and WuWa has a super high skill ceiling, but this seems to be a combination of the two and if we have the difficulty of HSR with DEEP character investment, and managing patch buffs, I'm going to have a blast
Ellen is the whole reason I'm excited for this game. I'm getting her. Zhu Yuan would be a nice pickup. I like characters with a kit that requires engagement.
It keeps throwing me off that Electro elemental damage is bright blue colored in this game. Cuz then Ice is a more pale blue. You’d think they would’ve made Electro a yellow color or something.
For anyone that says combat looks mid or whatnot Trust me The visuals is very deceiving I was also skeptical about the combat But when i got to actually do it im cbt3 You can REALLY feel the movement of the characters Zhu yuan for example is very "jumpy" i would say idk how to describe it cuz she feels very tactile in terms of controls And her pace is at the VERY fast spd Ellen while looks flashy feels a bit like a great sword user but 50% faster cuz her animation has a lot of charge stages And tbh my favorite is ben Why ben? He is for me at least the most technically interesting and unique out of all the others i've tried Ben has a LOT of kinda secret moves which you unlcok after doing the active skill for the first time Some of them are rocket jet pillar punch My favorite that you can do after doing his active skill once and using half the energy bar Cool af Also yes he moves VERY slow But his attacks is not You can further enhance this game combat speed by constantly swapping characters and basically idk... How to call it but " animation buffer"? A bit different from canceling animation since some characters has attacks that carries over even after you switch and ben's dodge attack can help mitigate some enemy action by ramming himself to the enemy after you switch out at his 4-5 combo string And other cool hidden combo stuff that you'd find in fighting games
The term you're thinking of is switch tech, where a character's longer attack animation can continue after you switch to a different character and still be on screen at the same time as you are controlling the new character until the attack finishes. There are some characters in Wuthering Waves that have moves built around switch tech (looking at you, Encore)
You can literally clear the ‘abyss’ of this game with your eyes closed only listening to sound indicator up til 7th floor I’m 31 and I attempted it with Ellen + Amby + Soukaku, finished in before the 6min S rank benchmark, with my eyes closed only spamming left click and space bar This game is extremely casual and ceiling is not high either
@IyoXS I've been trusting your takes in HSR so I'm going to trust you here - I'd love to know what you think about Disorder. Is it stronger than, say, a mono-Ice team (Ellen/Lyc/Sup)? If I was going to build a Disorder team right now, I'd go Ellen/Lyc/Rina so I still have one of the strongest elements (ice), plus fast application of second element (shock) to proc Disorder plus have res pen - what's your take?
Coincidentally I have a tier list video releasing tonight and I go over that exact team comparison. lol TLDR; I agree with you and believe that Ellen/Lyc/Rin team is the strongest version of her team. Hooowever, that's not to say Kaku isn't golden on the team either. Over 1k+ raw ATK boost to the entire team, Ice DMG % boost & Ice RES Red for the entire team + 1 combo freezes? Saokaku is really dang strong for freeze comps at launch. It's super hard to make the argument whether or not single instance Disorder triggers will be stronger than perma-freeze + her omniboosts.
Oh so that is right about the materials need to upgrade the agents. I always felt like my resources are easily depleted so it is indeed expensive spending resources. I literally building all my agents lols..
I love Ellen gameplay but Zhu Yuan mechanics gives me Hyperreal (PGR) vibes: ordinary bullet, strong bullet stack, some AoE damage, auto dodge, hopping all around the field, and nuke. Hyperreal is my favourite man I can't decide yet
I'm honestly more interested in some of the main roster units more than the limited ones so far, BUT...gotta give the algorithm a nudge. Good stuff man and keep it up. Also, just an idea, but I think a podcast between u and smack would be a great idea. You both have an extensive FG background and relish in competitive and complex gameplay so I feel like a conversion between yall would be interesting for a lot of people outside of that space that are from the gacha space especially since ur familiar with most combat focused gachas outhere.
To activate her core passive it's not like the rest of the agents where it's the same attribute or faction. With Zhu Yuan it's either a support character ir the same faction so you can tune her with other supports too
Hey @Iyo XS, I usually don't play mechanically "difficult" characters but I really like Ellen so I've decided to try and master her combo's for this game like you explained. My question is, will you make a video explaining in detail how to do the optimal inputs for Ellen (and other characters) once the game releases?
Question for you, F2pP, got lucky and got Ellen and her W-engine, then rolled for her again to try to get her first unlock. Got lucky again and got it, so I was curious if you think/feel that may have been a waste, or if you think its nice to have her charge and fill up meter in one attack. worried I may have wasted the tickets, but again I'm not even 30 yet, so I got pretty lucky on pulling for her as it is xD
This was actually super informative!! I found it super helpful to hear an in-depth explanation between both characters’ kits. I pulled for Ellen already bc I really like her and I also just love Von Lycaon, and got SUPER lucky by pulling him off of standard! No rerolls needed 🎉 I’m going to wait to see on who the next 5* may be for 1.1 BUT I honestly really dig Zhu Yuan’s design and kit. I might pull for her if there isn’t anyone who interests me coming up next!
Iyo what do you think of completely skipping the 1.0 characters and looking towards 1.1? Or would you say picking one of them up would be good to start an account?
Wouldn't recommend unless you absolutely just despise the 1.0 launch. I'm a way bigger fun of enjoy the game now vs not enjoying it, but still playing until something you like rolls around.
If you don't wanna play her best partner, then just play whoever you want. It's kinda like... You can't ask for meta results, but not wanna follow proven meta builds, y'know? Koleda or Anby are your only other stun options in the game, both of which have their unique strengths, but neither of which have anything close to what Lycaon has. Especially for Ellen.
Great video. Precisely because of elemental immunity and what not, i'm pulling any and every character I can lol. Can you do a video on team synergy? Ex: different lineup orders, 2 vs 3 characters. Sometimes you can get 4-5 chain attacks just with an dps, support and bangboo. A lot of depth in the combat of this game it's great imo.
ZhuYuen's passive, if its the same as the trial version we get in the story, is activated by having an ether character or a support character. It doesnt say faction. So you can put her on a team with day Rina or Soukaku for instance and you dont need to have Nicole. But nicole is probably the better choice because of nicoles passive.
Fav gacha creator of all time Also for a ZZZ channel personally I think it should have a ZZZ pfp instead of Klee but it’s up to you to change it luv your work, I’ll always have faith in the Iyo take ❤
I wanna change it to Ellen, but Hoyo sucks at making these stickers for any other game besides Genshin. Idk who the artist is they have in the basement, but I need them to make me some ZZZ stickers NOW. lol
I mean if Zhu yuan still has the same faction bonus like the trial with faction of support I feel like she may have a chance as a second dps roll where u just only go to her to use special unload the bullets and then don’t use until that moment again I mean Yh the only way of getting bullet would be through follow up assists, ultimate and special but could work who knows I’m not some team master mind just thinking of ideas for future lol either way I was going for her before I even downloaded the game
New viewer, been using Billy, very good, failed on Ellen 50/50 and got Neko when reached level 30, sad. Started an 2nd account to try my luck again for Ellen, if 2nd account fails again. Then i will main my first account and save pulls for Zhu Yuan, she looks an upgraded version of Grace and Billy, looking quite fun and looking forward the game could bring more content and story to it.
I thought I was going to main Billie but I got tired of kiting really fast. I’m not sure if I would wanna change from the Ellen play style back to a play style like Billie’s.
I want both so im getting both (i have a job and the funds so get all charcters once if i want) but if i had to choose probably ellen because her design and playstyle (not a meta person).
22:45 imaginary is a actual element in HI3. Im from this game and im about to try ZZZ if what you’re saying is right, it gives me more reason to play (even tho i would’ve tested it anyway) great vids man🔥 like and sub from France🇫🇷
well coming from hi3rd..in my first 5 hours experience it basically a reskin lite hi3rd combat with mini games and colour..and good soudtrack..the combat is..meh i guess..coming to this after playing hi3rd part 2 is not satisfying for me
honestly I'm saving for this first patch, I like both characters but I don't love them, there isn't that need like with Seele and Jing Yuan that I had. Honestly, biker chick with the sword and shield and Dark Mode Ayaka from the release trailer are who I'm saving for. Edit: Yo also great work on these ZZZ videos, I really appreciate you tying this to fighting game stuff just because thats a good personal frame of reference for me. I'd love to see you breakdown some unique mechanics of character kits like you did with Nicole for one of the closed betas.
I'm either pulling zhu yuan or neither. We got so many pulls for "free" at the start. I have no idea if zzz is going to be as generous as hsr or stingy like genshin.
TLDR Hold shift + hold left click then spam left click Or hold shift + hold left click E left click (wait for her to kick her pole thingy and wait for the thing to stop spinning) then E left click again, rinse and repeat This game is very causal, there’s not much ‘ceiling’ to combo, most of the time you can literally close your eyes spam left click and space bar and things will die regardless
I was pulling for Ellen but it's a good thing that she didn't come home yet. Zhu Yuan gameplay is super similar to Grace's (my favorite character yet) so I'll save for her, even if I don't really like her design-wise
by "plinking" u mean prio links? I mean there's not such thing in this game but I would assume u talking about the technique itself of pushing the button u want to use right after another to make it come out faster?
Hoyo games have a 50/50 chance of getting the limited or a standard 5*/S-rank. if you "lose" the 50/50 (getting a standard), your next 5*/S-rank is guaranteed to be the limited one, and it carries over to the next banner if you choose to stop pulling on the current one and wait. if you "win" (getting the limited one), your next 5*/S-rank will still be a 50/50
1:31 ??? Wtf are you talking about? How do you get punished for that? As a free to play you can get every new character with full gear so how do you get punished for that?
As f2p player Im going to reroll for lycaon and get ellen, but could i still try and pull for zhu yuan? I think i like more his gameplay than ellen one yet i still need her for my lycaon team
So true on the economy for gear being incredibly stingy. Currently i was analyzing what would be the best course of action for my account and all in all considering i have nearly C4 soukaku and also having lycaon pulling for ellen would be the most optimal play for me. Since that enables me to use my current nekomata that i also got early on in my pulls to have her be in a team with anby & piper/nicole. Ofc everyone should focus on pulling for what they want first. Be it waifu meta or just cause you wanna try a kit, but if you're looking to get into the endgame you gotta recognize that this game is going to be an arm's race for damage output similar to pgr from what i can tell. So if you care about your performance then it's time to GENUINELY start planning your pulls ahead of time. Don't be like me with over 150+ into base banner cuz of grace and then realizing ellen is optimal for the acc's longevity.
Imo there’s no strongest character, there’s only the strongest team. In most cases, building around a dps is safe, but the most important thing is building around type synergy and whatever you roll in the beginner banner.
I think they got rid of the "type" limitations after CBT3, since they added the "faction or element" change instead of the "faction or type" from before. I could be wrong though. Safest to check tomorrow night after release.
you literally form a team with the best DPS in the game, the best Stun in the game and the best Support in the game so yea, pretty cracked if you ask me
I love Ellen SO much. Zhu Yuan is definitely a possibility but I love Soukaku so much (as a demon lover) so Soukaku and Ellen synergy is just TOO good. Excited for a 5 star demon (boy or girl) at some point!
@@ssj4gogetaexperimental147 Nicee, congrats!! I got Ellen's weapon on my first 10 pull in the weapon banner, but sadly no Lycaon yet, I guess I'll just save the rest of the pulls for Zhu Yuan banner to have at least two decent teams xD
Sorry I’m a bit confused on what you are trying to say about W-engines, you bring up how they are hard to get compared to genshin… but they just aren’t? It’s the exact same system as genshin and in fact it’s going to be easier to get them compared to genshin as it’s a 75/25 and if you lose you are guaranteed on the next. Plus you have the ability to get rid of already maxed/unwanted engines to buy them at the gadget store. Or do you mean that they are a lot more character specific? Things like Nicole’s W-engine can only be used on her due to it being a support engine for ether… which is only Nicole…
Definitely going Ellen! But if possible gonna try and get her W engine and maybe more copies of her this might the one game I become pay to play on I also loved how you broke down the characters on the video of choosing a 5 star I was waiting for you breakdown on Ellen
Well man, I now have 3 accounts with guaranteed. Talk about luck, but this vid give me hope man. Maybe me and Zhu Zhun are just meant to be. Or should I just wait for 1.1
So i pulled Ellen and am going for the weapon, was wonder if anyone knows if its better to try and get a nother copy of Ellen, (her cinema doesnt seem too strong) or go for a copy of the weapon OR just try and get Zhu Yuan since i still got like 2 weeks
Fuck all tht I want to know is this game playable with the backbone controller with your phone. I play hsr and genshin on there so will it also be on there
Pin 📌
Aight you earned it this time, bub.
I find it so ironic that Nicole, who's a total troublemaker and part of an odd-job agency, has particularly good synergy with an upstanding, reliable, by-the-books cop lady
I know right 😂😂😂
So Nicole is gintoki from gintama:0
Vi and Caitlyn from arcane/league
Opposites attract
is there ever a closer relationship than an officer and their CI?
Ellen and Zhu Yuan wanters will be Ellen and Zhu Yuan havers, blessing all of yall 🗣️🗣️🗣️💯💯💯
Good thing my Ellen is guaranteed. Got the Wolf butler in the very first 10 pull of her banner.
thank you i wanted ellen and soldier 11 i lost the 50/50 and got soldier and now due to your blessing i got ellen early on about 30-40 pity and i got lycaon from standard banner
@@NihilityBreaker Blessings to you, got my Ellen yesterday, i only got her 4 pulls away from hard pity but it was worth it.
Got Ellen and Rina ty
@@duckychan6100 no problem my child 🙏
Said it once and will say it 100 more times. Zhu Yuan is the hottest fully clothed female character in the entire hoyo games
What does "fully clothed" even mean? 😂
@@tylerkincaid5200Basically she’s very attractive with or without clothes on. It’s a good thing when a woman can pull off a suit or uniform
@@tylerkincaid5200 it means no need for onlyfans
Arlecchino for me
@@testament-h3k she's too mommy for me. But i get you
I'll pull for whoever is available. No waiting, no saving, just pull pull pull. I'll use who I get.
bro is hakari
Based gambling addict chad
Always bet on Hakari
I always do this in Hoyo games. No skips, just pull, pull and pull
Same
shark 👍 maid 👍 fast 👍
I read that as shark maid feet
@@MegaKabutops777that too
@@MegaKabutops777 that works too.
She is mad fast like damn
Can I just say how much I appreciate you making actual informative content on the game instead of just shitting on it? Most of my usual go-to channels have put out nothing but hate toward the game, and it's getting more than a little grating. Like damn, man, if you don't like it, don't play it. Ain't no reason you gotta post eleven videos about how much you hate it when the people who are actually searching for ZZZ content are just looking for goddamn gameplay guides. I digress, keep up the good work, man.
Ikr. I try to search for ZZZ content on YT and most of what pops up are just hate videos or toxic drama. It's nice to have a go-to cc that actually has a productive video and not just whine for 10+ minutes. I'm not saying they have to dck ride Hoyo everytime but damn, we get it... they hate the game so they should just move on.
It's Genshit fans mad there game is so ass
I love nier and Ellen kinda gives me nier vibes with how she plays. She's also a cute shark maid so I pull.
You mean 2B from Nier Automata? Yeah, them both are so cool!!
oh wait that's so true, i was thinking about what she reminded me of when i played her!!
@mint_zzz specifically A2, the dash is near identical lmao
I prefer longer videos because your knowledge of games with elements reminiscent of fighting games, and having these ways to change the gameplay that's just shown to you is something I like. Can't wait to hop on and learn these characters gameplay potential. Unfortunately, others aren't providing this depth of insight, but I'm glad to have someone to watch for detailed gameplay info.
Killing it with these videos man. Getting me super excited for launch. Need Lycaon and Ellen in first 10 pull 🙏🏼
That’s what I like to hear right there!
Hope you get Ellen, so you don't use Corin in Ellen's team.
Wait I have Lycaon available for me so is Ellen good or should I save for miyabi?
I can make these teams with either
Lycaon,soukaku,Ellen/miyabi
If I go for Ellen I can get the Victoria faction buff
If I go for miyabi I can get the shiyu defense force buff
@@Försvar_OpsEllen/Lycaon/Sokaku are the current best team in the game. Lycaon will also work really well with Miyabi. Either one would work due to ice/faction bonus for the main DPS.
So pick a fav I guess. Don’t know when Miyabi is coming, and I’d rather get Ellen.
@@DNAbro I think miyabi is coming after the zhu hua? (Idk the name of the cop girl) Banner
Yo can you PLEASE make a Combo guide video for every character? You're the most knowledgeable CC on this, and it's a kind of content only YOU can do.
Thanks in advance for the awesome videos
Genuinely don't think you can go wrong with either character, but I'm going for Zhu Yuan because she just looks so fluid to play. I think fast paced characters are a lot more valuable in this game than the slower ones so she seems like she'll probably stay meta for a while just for that reason.
Also great video, nice to see someone cover the game with FGC experience because that brings a welcome perspective to analysis for the game that most other YTers covering ZZZ won't have.
As a long time Souls player I really appreciate your take on things and how in depth you go with how you can play around with the mechanics in this game. While the game itself isn't a challenge necessarily, it's the fact that I can no challenge myself to learn these mechanics or little tricks that will make playing characters more fun/engaging. I really look forward to the future of this game and how I can mess around with different playstyles and gimmicks. Really appreciate your content man, only stumbled across you a week before ZZZ launch and you're who I been solely watching outside of build guides and what have you. Keep it up!:
I gonna need that video on W-engines I hope people dont sleep on them. HSR and Genshin you can get away with not having sig weapons as for HI3rd you can always craft and use alts options.
I'll add it to my list to work on for sure! Might try to collab with someone on some numbers.
Wait you want them to be mandatory for good builds? Why would you willingly want people to spend more? Maybe I'm reading your comment wrong sorry. :S
Absolutely excited for this as I LIKE how hard HSR is. Genshin has a super low skill floor and WuWa has a super high skill ceiling, but this seems to be a combination of the two and if we have the difficulty of HSR with DEEP character investment, and managing patch buffs, I'm going to have a blast
Super helpful for understanding the kits, thank you! I’m looking forward to Ellen 🙌🏾
Glad I could help!
Ellen is the whole reason I'm excited for this game. I'm getting her. Zhu Yuan would be a nice pickup. I like characters with a kit that requires engagement.
It keeps throwing me off that Electro elemental damage is bright blue colored in this game. Cuz then Ice is a more pale blue. You’d think they would’ve made Electro a yellow color or something.
Yellow would be too similar to Ether damage. Idk actually purple for Lightning would look sick (in a good way ofc)
@@mint_zzzether is purple I think. Physical is yellow and super common though
@@mint_zzz ether is like a byzantine violet and indigo. at least the icon
@@FrostyPeppercorn quite off topic but you sound like my mother explaining colours to me
For anyone that says combat looks mid or whatnot
Trust me
The visuals is very deceiving
I was also skeptical about the combat
But when i got to actually do it im cbt3
You can REALLY feel the movement of the characters
Zhu yuan for example is very "jumpy" i would say idk how to describe it cuz she feels very tactile in terms of controls
And her pace is at the VERY fast spd
Ellen while looks flashy feels a bit like a great sword user but 50% faster cuz her animation has a lot of charge stages
And tbh my favorite is ben
Why ben?
He is for me at least the most technically interesting and unique out of all the others i've tried
Ben has a LOT of kinda secret moves which you unlcok after doing the active skill for the first time
Some of them are rocket jet pillar punch
My favorite that you can do after doing his active skill once and using half the energy bar
Cool af
Also yes he moves VERY slow
But his attacks is not
You can further enhance this game combat speed by constantly swapping characters and basically idk... How to call it but " animation buffer"?
A bit different from canceling animation since some characters has attacks that carries over even after you switch and ben's dodge attack can help mitigate some enemy action by ramming himself to the enemy after you switch out at his 4-5 combo string
And other cool hidden combo stuff that you'd find in fighting games
The term you're thinking of is switch tech, where a character's longer attack animation can continue after you switch to a different character and still be on screen at the same time as you are controlling the new character until the attack finishes. There are some characters in Wuthering Waves that have moves built around switch tech (looking at you, Encore)
The last bit is similar to Intro/Outro Skills in WuWa, is it not?
You can literally clear the ‘abyss’ of this game with your eyes closed only listening to sound indicator up til 7th floor
I’m 31 and I attempted it with Ellen + Amby + Soukaku, finished in before the 6min S rank benchmark, with my eyes closed only spamming left click and space bar
This game is extremely casual and ceiling is not high either
"The visuals is very deceiving" *proceed to only talk about the visuals*.
Then I guess I was right, the combat IS as boring as it looks
Seeing that Zhu Yuan gameplay was all I needed. She looks sick!
I can’t wait to pair up that tank cop dude with Zhu
I know I can trust a youtuber when they have persona 5 music in the background
3:20 between Nicole’s hidden command and this I’m really looking forward to this game🤣
@IyoXS I've been trusting your takes in HSR so I'm going to trust you here - I'd love to know what you think about Disorder. Is it stronger than, say, a mono-Ice team (Ellen/Lyc/Sup)? If I was going to build a Disorder team right now, I'd go Ellen/Lyc/Rina so I still have one of the strongest elements (ice), plus fast application of second element (shock) to proc Disorder plus have res pen - what's your take?
Coincidentally I have a tier list video releasing tonight and I go over that exact team comparison. lol
TLDR; I agree with you and believe that Ellen/Lyc/Rin team is the strongest version of her team. Hooowever, that's not to say Kaku isn't golden on the team either. Over 1k+ raw ATK boost to the entire team, Ice DMG % boost & Ice RES Red for the entire team + 1 combo freezes? Saokaku is really dang strong for freeze comps at launch. It's super hard to make the argument whether or not single instance Disorder triggers will be stronger than perma-freeze + her omniboosts.
@@IyoXS Can't wait to see it, I'll def be watching for it. So basically we don't know if Disorder is stronger until after release and more testing?
Oh so that is right about the materials need to upgrade the agents. I always felt like my resources are easily depleted so it is indeed expensive spending resources. I literally building all my agents lols..
I love Ellen gameplay but Zhu Yuan mechanics gives me Hyperreal (PGR) vibes: ordinary bullet, strong bullet stack, some AoE damage, auto dodge, hopping all around the field, and nuke.
Hyperreal is my favourite man I can't decide yet
I was really considering to pull for Ellen but this shot at 2:36 was absolutely enough to convince me to save for Zhu Yuan. Thanks Iyo.
iyo always bring a unique perspective to the take and im here for it 😊
I'm getting Zhu Yuan cause I like her beeg CAKE and also her fast paced gameplay. I'm horrible on slow and easy to play characters for some reason 😂😂.
fast is good
real shit that shit dummy thicc
Slow and easy to play makes no sense ur just bad 🤣🤣
I'm honestly more interested in some of the main roster units more than the limited ones so far, BUT...gotta give the algorithm a nudge.
Good stuff man and keep it up. Also, just an idea, but I think a podcast between u and smack would be a great idea. You both have an extensive FG background and relish in competitive and complex gameplay so I feel like a conversion between yall would be interesting for a lot of people outside of that space that are from the gacha space especially since ur familiar with most combat focused gachas outhere.
Glad you are making content on this game. Used to watch all your star rail content. Great insight and you set players up for success
Good explanation and comparison of the element lockout meta for end game content
To activate her core passive it's not like the rest of the agents where it's the same attribute or faction. With Zhu Yuan it's either a support character ir the same faction so you can tune her with other supports too
Hey @Iyo XS, I usually don't play mechanically "difficult" characters but I really like Ellen so I've decided to try and master her combo's for this game like you explained. My question is, will you make a video explaining in detail how to do the optimal inputs for Ellen (and other characters) once the game releases?
I have rina so should I pull for Ellen to pair with her?
I really like Ellen and her tail but
- Zhu oneesan
- good sinergy with Nicole
Question for you, F2pP, got lucky and got Ellen and her W-engine, then rolled for her again to try to get her first unlock. Got lucky again and got it, so I was curious if you think/feel that may have been a waste, or if you think its nice to have her charge and fill up meter in one attack. worried I may have wasted the tickets, but again I'm not even 30 yet, so I got pretty lucky on pulling for her as it is xD
This was actually super informative!! I found it super helpful to hear an in-depth explanation between both characters’ kits. I pulled for Ellen already bc I really like her and I also just love Von Lycaon, and got SUPER lucky by pulling him off of standard! No rerolls needed 🎉
I’m going to wait to see on who the next 5* may be for 1.1 BUT I honestly really dig Zhu Yuan’s design and kit. I might pull for her if there isn’t anyone who interests me coming up next!
Anyone knows the music starting at 20:03 ?
Iyo what do you think of completely skipping the 1.0 characters and looking towards 1.1? Or would you say picking one of them up would be good to start an account?
Wouldn't recommend unless you absolutely just despise the 1.0 launch. I'm a way bigger fun of enjoy the game now vs not enjoying it, but still playing until something you like rolls around.
Can someone please tell me who i can use with ellen other than lycon cuz I don’t wanna play dat
If you don't wanna play her best partner, then just play whoever you want. It's kinda like... You can't ask for meta results, but not wanna follow proven meta builds, y'know?
Koleda or Anby are your only other stun options in the game, both of which have their unique strengths, but neither of which have anything close to what Lycaon has. Especially for Ellen.
@@IyoXS ight cool. Just wanted to know who else i could use
I'm a fairly recent player. If I missed my chance to pull for her, will that opportunity eventually come back?
Ellen for sure, looks good and had the same JP VA as my girl tove in Nikke
I got Ellen, but should I go for her engine too or is it not necessary?
Great video. Precisely because of elemental immunity and what not, i'm pulling any and every character I can lol. Can you do a video on team synergy? Ex: different lineup orders, 2 vs 3 characters. Sometimes you can get 4-5 chain attacks just with an dps, support and bangboo. A lot of depth in the combat of this game it's great imo.
ZhuYuen's passive, if its the same as the trial version we get in the story, is activated by having an ether character or a support character. It doesnt say faction.
So you can put her on a team with day Rina or Soukaku for instance and you dont need to have Nicole. But nicole is probably the better choice because of nicoles passive.
Fav gacha creator of all time
Also for a ZZZ channel personally I think it should have a ZZZ pfp instead of Klee but it’s up to you to change it luv your work, I’ll always have faith in the Iyo take ❤
I wanna change it to Ellen, but Hoyo sucks at making these stickers for any other game besides Genshin. Idk who the artist is they have in the basement, but I need them to make me some ZZZ stickers NOW. lol
I mean if Zhu yuan still has the same faction bonus like the trial with faction of support I feel like she may have a chance as a second dps roll where u just only go to her to use special unload the bullets and then don’t use until that moment again I mean Yh the only way of getting bullet would be through follow up assists, ultimate and special but could work who knows I’m not some team master mind just thinking of ideas for future lol either way I was going for her before I even downloaded the game
I got Lycaon ,Soukaku and Grace. Should I get Ellen or Zhu Yuan or would it be better to save due to power creep?
New viewer, been using Billy, very good, failed on Ellen 50/50 and got Neko when reached level 30, sad. Started an 2nd account to try my luck again for Ellen, if 2nd account fails again. Then i will main my first account and save pulls for Zhu Yuan, she looks an upgraded version of Grace and Billy, looking quite fun and looking forward the game could bring more content and story to it.
I thought I was going to main Billie but I got tired of kiting really fast. I’m not sure if I would wanna change from the Ellen play style back to a play style like Billie’s.
Appreciate that beneath the mask backtrack my guy
I love the persona OST in the background :D
I want both so im getting both (i have a job and the funds so get all charcters once if i want) but if i had to choose probably ellen because her design and playstyle (not a meta person).
22:45 imaginary is a actual element in HI3. Im from this game and im about to try ZZZ if what you’re saying is right, it gives me more reason to play (even tho i would’ve tested it anyway) great vids man🔥 like and sub from France🇫🇷
well coming from hi3rd..in my first 5 hours experience it basically a reskin lite hi3rd combat with mini games and colour..and good soudtrack..the combat is..meh i guess..coming to this after playing hi3rd part 2 is not satisfying for me
Good debut brother, amazing content keep it up !
Btw, can you drop your music playlist ? This shi is crazy
honestly I'm saving for this first patch, I like both characters but I don't love them, there isn't that need like with Seele and Jing Yuan that I had. Honestly, biker chick with the sword and shield and Dark Mode Ayaka from the release trailer are who I'm saving for.
Edit: Yo also great work on these ZZZ videos, I really appreciate you tying this to fighting game stuff just because thats a good personal frame of reference for me. I'd love to see you breakdown some unique mechanics of character kits like you did with Nicole for one of the closed betas.
I posted here can't find it Ellen Joe is my favorite 5 star so far she's awesome
I'm either pulling zhu yuan or neither. We got so many pulls for "free" at the start. I have no idea if zzz is going to be as generous as hsr or stingy like genshin.
TLDR
Hold shift + hold left click then spam left click
Or hold shift + hold left click E left click (wait for her to kick her pole thingy and wait for the thing to stop spinning) then E left click again, rinse and repeat
This game is very causal, there’s not much ‘ceiling’ to combo, most of the time you can literally close your eyes spam left click and space bar and things will die regardless
Like all gacha games. Not sure why you ever thought gacha games had “revolutionary gameplay”
I was pulling for Ellen but it's a good thing that she didn't come home yet. Zhu Yuan gameplay is super similar to Grace's (my favorite character yet) so I'll save for her, even if I don't really like her design-wise
0:04 Ahmmm! actually they are gardening shears !!
jokes apart love the vid keep it up
One note for the music , Ellen's demo song has a metal riff at the end and it's amazing
by "plinking" u mean prio links? I mean there's not such thing in this game but I would assume u talking about the technique itself of pushing the button u want to use right after another to make it come out faster?
Luckily, I got Ellen early so I can save more polychrome for Zhu Yuan. Hopefuly I am not losing 50/50 in Zhu Yuan banner.
Wait confused so if I skip a banner I have a guarantee for the next banner ? Can someone explain ?
lose 50/50 = guaranteed. read the gacha rules. :))
Hoyo games have a 50/50 chance of getting the limited or a standard 5*/S-rank. if you "lose" the 50/50 (getting a standard), your next 5*/S-rank is guaranteed to be the limited one, and it carries over to the next banner if you choose to stop pulling on the current one and wait. if you "win" (getting the limited one), your next 5*/S-rank will still be a 50/50
@@BestKazuhaFan I have its jus the way he explained it I thought there was a new mechanic I’ve played genshin, star rail, and now this
1:31 ??? Wtf are you talking about? How do you get punished for that? As a free to play you can get every new character with full gear so how do you get punished for that?
Coming from a fighting game mindset having played some myself has been helpful in explaing which chrachters I should focus on or to commit
I like high execution characters but not if it feels clunky and tedious. Does Zhu Yuan gameplay feel this way? (i.e. Hu Tao, Calcharo)
she looks pretty simple to play
Zhu Yuan seems very good and cool to play. First time ever I'll start saving for pulls.
Question. Which 5 star in standard banner choose for Zhu Yuan???
As f2p player Im going to reroll for lycaon and get ellen, but could i still try and pull for zhu yuan? I think i like more his gameplay than ellen one yet i still need her for my lycaon team
Do the first one if you’re lucky enough.
Ellen, Lycaon and Sousaku is really strong rn
So true on the economy for gear being incredibly stingy. Currently i was analyzing what would be the best course of action for my account and all in all considering i have nearly C4 soukaku and also having lycaon pulling for ellen would be the most optimal play for me. Since that enables me to use my current nekomata that i also got early on in my pulls to have her be in a team with anby & piper/nicole. Ofc everyone should focus on pulling for what they want first. Be it waifu meta or just cause you wanna try a kit, but if you're looking to get into the endgame you gotta recognize that this game is going to be an arm's race for damage output similar to pgr from what i can tell. So if you care about your performance then it's time to GENUINELY start planning your pulls ahead of time. Don't be like me with over 150+ into base banner cuz of grace and then realizing ellen is optimal for the acc's longevity.
When is Zhu Yuan coming out? I thought only Ellen can be pulled right now?
Imo there’s no strongest character, there’s only the strongest team. In most cases, building around a dps is safe, but the most important thing is building around type synergy and whatever you roll in the beginner banner.
As someone who grew up loving fighters and hoyo games, I'm hyped
Can Ellen's W-engine be equipped on Von Lycaon? The passive seems perfect but I'm not sure about the compatibility
Yup.
No, its for attack types and hes a stun unit. it's just like in hsr, weapons are limited to the "paths"
I think they got rid of the "type" limitations after CBT3, since they added the "faction or element" change instead of the "faction or type" from before. I could be wrong though. Safest to check tomorrow night after release.
HI!! I hope anyone can answer my question, will a full Victoria Housekeeping Company team be good? I mean Ellen with Lycaon and Rina????
you literally form a team with the best DPS in the game, the best Stun in the game and the best Support in the game
so yea, pretty cracked if you ask me
Now after playing the game, it's not about who should I pull, it's about when can I save enough to start pulling...
I have koleda with her sig w engine but I also have ms5 soukaku, who should I go for??
Ellen
I love Ellen SO much. Zhu Yuan is definitely a possibility but I love Soukaku so much (as a demon lover) so Soukaku and Ellen synergy is just TOO good. Excited for a 5 star demon (boy or girl) at some point!
I already have Soukaku maxed out and a pretty strong Von Lycaon, but I have yet to pull Ellen once, and I'm like 80 pulls in or smth. Wish me luck!
Good luck man! Lost a 50/50 really early in my account (like pity 2 lol) and only today I secured my Ellen, and I got say, it was totally worth it : )
@@averagejohn2786 I got Ellen a couple days ago! :3
With a C6 Soukaku and and C0 Lycaon, I've secured a fairly decent lineup, ngl
@@ssj4gogetaexperimental147 Nicee, congrats!! I got Ellen's weapon on my first 10 pull in the weapon banner, but sadly no Lycaon yet, I guess I'll just save the rest of the pulls for Zhu Yuan banner to have at least two decent teams xD
@@averagejohn2786 No dice on the weapon banner :(
Sorry I’m a bit confused on what you are trying to say about W-engines, you bring up how they are hard to get compared to genshin… but they just aren’t? It’s the exact same system as genshin and in fact it’s going to be easier to get them compared to genshin as it’s a 75/25 and if you lose you are guaranteed on the next. Plus you have the ability to get rid of already maxed/unwanted engines to buy them at the gadget store. Or do you mean that they are a lot more character specific? Things like Nicole’s W-engine can only be used on her due to it being a support engine for ether… which is only Nicole…
Definitely going Ellen! But if possible gonna try and get her W engine and maybe more copies of her this might the one game I become pay to play on I also loved how you broke down the characters on the video of choosing a 5 star I was waiting for you breakdown on Ellen
5:21 That right there is all I need.
Why did he delete all his previous videos?
good review bro
So what if i got lycaon as my first s rank, who do i pull for?
How many units I should build for endgame content?
How do I get best starting in game
Well man, I now have 3 accounts with guaranteed. Talk about luck, but this vid give me hope man. Maybe me and Zhu Zhun are just meant to be. Or should I just wait for 1.1
Should I skip these for Miyabi?
I don't think weapons are going to matter much since most of the buffs are only totaling to 10-20% less than free ones (unless your multi-star it).
The long format is working for ya. Nice to listen to at work.
Also guys subscribe what is this 3k??
So i pulled Ellen and am going for the weapon, was wonder if anyone knows if its better to try and get a nother copy of Ellen, (her cinema doesnt seem too strong) or go for a copy of the weapon OR just try and get Zhu Yuan since i still got like 2 weeks
Use your pulls on what you want the most. Save if nothing interest you
Fuck all tht I want to know is this game playable with the backbone controller with your phone. I play hsr and genshin on there so will it also be on there
should iwait for miyabi since she also an ice dps?
Talk about mayubi too she didn't release yet but I'm afraid the she will powercreep shark girl they both are ice
Design-wise, Zhu Yuan reminds me of a cross between KOF's Leona and Kiyone/Space Police from Tenchi Muyo, and that's all I need to pull
bro HAS to mention it every single video 😭😭😭
What time game drop?