I Grew Up in a Corset. Time to Bust Some Myths. (Ft. Actual Research)
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- Опубликовано: 11 сен 2024
- I accidentally wrote an essay whilst researching for my corset project, so enjoy.
Stay tuned for the actual making adventures of said corset.
SOURCES
Arnold, Janet. “Patterns of Fashion 2: Englishwomen’s Dresses & Their Construction C. 1860 - 1940”, 1982.
Bradfield, Nancy. “Costume in Detail: Women’s Dress 1730-1930”, 1968.
Flower, B. O. “Fashion’s Slaves.”, 1892. archive.org/de...
Flower, William Henry. “Fashion in Deformity”, 1881. play.google.co...
Kim, Alexandra and Mida, Ingrid. “The Dress Detective”, 2015.
Langley Moore, Doris. “The Woman in Fashion”, 1949.
O’Followell, Ludovic. “Le corset; histoire, médecine, hygiène”, 1908. catalog.nyam.o...
Schwarz, G. S. “Society, physicians, and the corset”, 1979. www.ncbi.nlm.n...
Steele, Valerie. “The Corset: A Cultural History”, 2003.
Thomas, Theodore Galliard. “A Practical Treatise on the Diseases of Women” (6th edition) 1892 books.google.c... (specifically the heading ‘Impracticalities of Dress’)
The Toronto Daily Mail issue dated 5th May, 1883. news.google.co...
Measurement chart taken from ‘details’ on this dress: www.forever21....
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(Bernadette trying to tell people that average measurements ‘back then’ and now are consistent):
“I really don’t know how to explain to you that people have always been people”
I am tall and when I was in my 20s had a 21" waist. It is 29 to 31 now. Miss the tight waist I had then. I had more energy carrying no extra weight.
I appreciate the joke, and I know this fact doesn't necessarily apply to the Victorian era, but people were actually smaller before. I've seen many old door frames on churches, etc. that are really tiny, smaller than me by at least a head :)
I'm thinking that they were different, mainly because their diets were different. Regardless of more fat etc.
We also have more hormones in our meat and dairy now, more fat and salt in our processed food, etc. (also more education about and access to vitamins) so we may tend a bit larger, at least on average. There will always be a large range in human sizes.
@@ClAra-ig4er That may partly be due to the idea of humbling yourself before God by stooping to enter His house and partly due to it being easier and cheaper to build it that way.
This is so politely salty that it's satisfying.
Gotta love the furrow of her brow. :)
Politely salty is just like food, no? Of course it's satisfying.
You must love office emails
It's one of the reasons i subscribed
Not a big fan of the "You Will Be Triggered By This" bit at the start. It is not particularly classy to begin your explanation with "if you disagree with me you have PTSD and thusly cannot have an opinion" but I suppose it fits for historical accuracy
She’s that girl that could roast me and my fashion sense and I would thank her.
ArrowsToHeart Honestly, I need someone to roast my fashion sense cause I have none :/
Historia Reiss oof same
Same ooff.
She punched me in the face once. It was awesome
That reminds me of the boss from Devils Wear Prada. I have never actually seen it but Meryl Streep is iconic in that movie.
Victorian girl: *catches tuberculosis*
Her mother: ugh it's cus you're always on those damn corsets-
her father: ugh this young ladys and their fancy fashions
lmao
What would her mother be wearing lol? She is older than her! XD
Me: gets a stomach ache
My parents: it’s because you’ve been on the damn phone-
She speaks so eloquently! I honestly like corset training ive never had any issues with it
I love how she has this beautiful extensive vocabulary and then when shes describing a marriage she just says "some dude". Shes awesome.
Elizabeth Gem my favorite part too
I don't understand how that was a good part lol (not trying to throw shade)
@@confusiondarkness5058 Because she's speaking so eloquent, and then when she speaks about marriage, she drops the eloquency. its the irony that makes it a bit humorous, which is probably why OP likes that part
Ann Rice may have wrote that a skilled singer may be able to break a glass with her voice, but the job is easier done by dropping it on the ground. She marries both ideals wells.
@@confusiondarkness5058 , contrast, my friend, contrast.
I love how people hate on corsets, but will gladly put on shapewear.
Or high heels ...
The idea of shapewear to me is partly hilarious and partly perplexing. Yes the gentler variety giving a smooth line is fine. The stronger ones I see advertised on curvaceous bodies giving them a totally different line, albeit a smooth one leave me shocked. Why wear styles and sizes that clearly don't fit? Look for something genuinely flattering and comfortable. Fashion, style, beauty are not defined by one look alone. Not even a dozen looks. Just why? Yes I like heels too but only when I don't have to walk in them.
That is something that I don’t understand. The exact same society that hates corsets not only has shape wear made out of elastic stretchy material but also sells shape wear with boning Which is basically a gentler version of the modern corset but still slims down the figure.
They're the same thing, lol. I use corsets to help me with my posture and I like how they feel.
Yes that was what I thought too! Its like spanx for your tummy and boobs
Bernadette: speaks extremely proper at all times
Also Bernadette: “before her marriage to... *some dude* ”
Abi Mae when does she say that?
At about 6:25
Try turning on auto-generated subtitles, its incredible.
You just have to love her! Haha 🤣😎
"speaks extremely _properly"_
Fixed that for you.
Some extras, from a med student who's been through the hells of anatomy: the lower ribs are very flexible, so much that they'll move if you push hard enough with your fingers, and this is because they are connected to the sternum only by cartilage. They won't be reshaped so easily. And our abdominal organs are mostly soft and hollow, and they're kept in place by ligaments inside the peritoneum (idk if the translation is correct) which is like a big sack going from the diaphragm to the top of the bladder, so independently of how they're squished by the corset, they'll flop back into their original position once it's off, so It's pretty much like squeezing a water balloon. The only issue with corsets is that you can't dive face first into the party's buffet because your stomach and intestines don't have all of their normal space to expand and hold as much food as you'd want :(((
So do corsets give a noticeable effect on our figure when they are off?
I pushed on my lower ribs and they moved. Im uncomfy now
@@dustypetxls7430 My ribs grew eyes to cry with from that comment.
Fun fact about organ mobility, some people can touch the back of their spine through their abdomen in the weeks after giving birth
How many people read this and pressed on their lower ribs?
you CAN’T convince me that she’s not a time lord
The spirit of adventure ! Ah. Hello sweetie!
She's a Timelord
The spirit of adventure ! Hah, I'm sure she is:)
Also, John mclean
Shh, the Doctor regenerated and going undercover
I always got the feeling that the drawing of corseted women of the Victorian and Edwardian ages were like the Jessica Rabbit of today. HUGELY exaggerated for aesthetics and art but ultimately not real.
Gwendolyn Carey you tellin me you think Jessica Rabbit doesn’t just look like that?
It makes me think of the exaggerated proportions we see in Disney princesses too.
And Barbie. :)
@@Kozickih "Exaggerated" Y tho. There are millions of women who have those "Unrealistic" proportions, and it just so happens that most people like them more than others. I don't get the push back on looking good.
No...maybe...possibly...Nah
I think a lot of the "fainting" and "shortness of breath" was more caused by the tuberculosis that was rampant in the Victorians. I think there is an issue of correlation vs causation.
It was also seen as feminine to faint.
Or undiagnosed asthma.
Or the fact that the majority of things rich people especially women interacted with where made of poison. Up to and including your green wall paper and dress dye being made from arsenic. not kidding.
There was actually a trend of “fake fainting” for a while that women used to seem more dainty and delicate
I have a condition called POTS that makes me faint more easily. I’m on medication now, but I used to faint like a Victorian ingenue, L.O.L
When I was 15 I became a goth and began wearing corsetry. I bought a beautiful black silk corset that was custom made for me by a wonderful costume designer using traditional methods she had learned in her training in England. It was incredibly comfortable and I am very large chested, I believe that the corsetry I wore since that age has prevented me from developing back pain because of the upward support and spinal support offered by the corsetry. I think that bras for large chested women are very often more damaging for the spine and the delicate soft tissue that can be damaged during exercise from excessive bounce. Modern sport’s bras generally go for the ‘squash breasts against the rib cage’ approach of support for exercise. I definitely think for large busted women that corsets can be much more comfortable and supportive and can prevent spinal damage in the long term rather than the shoulders and back carrying the weight of the bust in a bra.
Wow, this is very insightful 😯. Will definitely invest in one as my back is always killing me 😔
Ohh thats why my sports bra is so tight-
(Edit: not to the point of being uncomfortable tho)
Corsets are also effective as pressure therapy and for back conditions and stuff like fibromyalgia
does anyone know where i could get one and for how much? ive been genuinely considering it.
@@averikwiatkowski2632 I'm a dude, but I have some tips. The first cotton, heavy duty, double steel boned, waist training corset I bought was from amazon for around $40-$45. I also have a custom satin one from etsy for about $70. Both are prices for underbust corsets. Definitely stay away from cheap costume "corsets" since they aren't real corsets. They only have floppy plastic bones.
Find out if you have a short or long torso before ordering a corset. If you get the wrong kind, it'll be unusable. Everyone has different amounts they can "squish" down to. If you can/are into that, then standard beginner advice is to order a corset 4" smaller than your natural waist. You can cinch tighter after you break in a new corset for 2wks.
Headcanon: Victorian chicks used the swoon trick go get out of social situations with men too stupid to get that that wasn't for real.
I like this.
Yes.
@@nidhug9115 if you find a source for this, my quality of life will rise by AT LEAST 15% because that would be hilarious
That explains the beginning of the first Pirates Of The Caribbean movie 🤣
We ladies still use similar tricks today, but we'll never reveal our secrets lol
Having put corsets on a LOT of people: if it's uncomfortable, it doesn't fit/it's the wrong cut for your body!
Laeiryn I feel comfortable in any corset and waist trainer so yes!
Or too tight
Also, it takes around a week (for me at least with a waist trainer), for my body to adjust to the new compression. My waist started at 26.5 inch and now I’m a 26 inch waist. It also helps with my bad back. Laeiryn I agree most don’t fit properly that’s is why it is sooo uncomfortable.
You have to be measured for a proper fitting corset and get the right shape and style
@@voodoovixen666 which falls into the "doesn't fitt" category. Just like a to tight shoe that can kill your toes
She speaks in a mix of print, cursive, italics, and essay.
She’s posh with an American accent.
She’s a goddess amongst men.
Articulate -- too rare
As a british woman, we don't notice the difference.
and lesbians...
i know this is unrelated but robert can have my ovaries
Nice profile pic
"The fainting, the shortness of breath, the shifted organs and squashed ribs" You're describing pregnancy.
Not for me --- never had any of those problems , just lucky I guess or because I was never over weight maybe. Fat inside the body can cause many problems.
@@ladybug591 look at you being so perfect
@@Kittikee10 lol right, scientifically no matter who you are your organs move during pregnancy. (Pregnant 4 times sometimes I was at a perfect weight and twice I was overweight... All those things happened every single time)
@@chloev91 yep. Currently pregnant with my 2nd. With my first, I started out at 125lb and 5'6". Clearly I had organ shifting, pooping was difficult, and I used pregnancy as an excuse to gain weight. I gave birth at just under 190lbs. 20 weeks into #2 I've only gained 2-3 lbs and Im 163lb. I guess I stored enough fat/nutrients for 2 babies my first pregnancy.
There's a corset for that
she literally speaks in italics
*cursive
@@clownworldhereticmyron1018 cursive AND italicized
doodily doo Too clear and distinct to be cursive. Calligraphic print.
She speaks in ink dip pen written, handwritten letter, cursive. Possibly with calligraphic initial to start said letter. Likely sealed with some sort of wax ribbon seal.
in that case apparently i speak in italics, because apparently i speak much like she does
The ability you have to speak so quickly without stuttering or jumbling your words... very impressive👏🏽 I could talk in sloth mode and I would still jumble first grade level words
Haha, i can not even begin to compare my vocabulary to hers, although in my native language I might get close to it. But I definetly speak a lot faster, my parents have always told me that was due to my older sisters habbit of interrupting me whenever I spoke, I was obligated to do so because otherwise i could never finish a sentence.
#slothmode
Now that I hear her talking I realized that my American accent like almost all Americans, we pronounce things like “water” ,
“wadur” LMAO
The ability to shoot artillery is way cooler. It's like gardening or yoga but you get to kill stuff.
I absolutely cannot speak fast at all, in English or my native language, but I definitely can read a long manuscript faster than I can say it
me: is italian and doesn't understand how inches work
still me: you are absolutely right, please keep telling me about average waist measurements please
To help- 24in is 60cm. Generally regarded as the “ideal” waist measurement even of today. Though, that’s natural, without a corset, which leads me to believe that the average young ladies of Victorian times actually had larger waists than today’s ideal. About 27in (68.5cm)
From a CI user to my fellow CI user: multiply inches by 2,5 (or 2,54 to be more precise) and you'll get centimeters:)
@@helgaschimmelgrau8405 As if I can multiply in my head XD
Golden Starlight
date a guy, then you’ll know.
As an Australian I concur, what the actual fuck is inches 😂
The story of a girl in my family is she died because her hair was 6 feet long. It took all of her strength. Found death certificate. She died of tuberculosis. Story’s get distorted over generations. Love your clothing.
im a dude and its midnight, i dont know why im here but man the way she talks is so clean
Same...
Honestly me rn
Lmao it’s 1am and Idk how I got here but I’m watching the whole video.
2:43 am recommended after quantum physics crash course...
Hey me too
Oh to help you with regards to the whole "swooning" thing. I watched several documentaries about Victorian homes & it was suggested that women would faint not because of their underwear, but because of the high amounts of arsenic in the fashionable green wallpapers. Not only that but the lighting used throughout the house just made the situation worse. The candles would heat up the atmosphere which would trigger the arsenic laden wallpaper to start releasing toxic vapours. Not only that, but it was the first period where gas lighting was introduced. Gas supplies at the time were unregulated & so the fittings were of poor quality. Gas leaking into an already warm sitting room that's loaded with arsenic vapour was basically a death waiting to happen & the person who spent most time in that sitting room was the lady of the house.
Did you get all that from absolute history? I love that channel
Oh! I read that these fumes and gas leaks, along with monoxide syndrome could have been a factor in the Gothic literary and art movement and the sense of dread and angst found in writers such as Edgar Allan Poe etc.
Interesting
In short: the house was the problem.
Blame the construction of your living spaces not your corset.
But absolute history? I love that channel.
Oh my gosh that’s fascinating!!
this human is so eloquent,,, my english is quaking in its corset
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Same ;-;
Shes reading from cards. She writes out what she wants to say first using the most flowery language she can just so she sounds that way. She keeps looking to her left where her cards are.
You know what really shoves your internal organs out of the way? Pregnancy. Yet no one seems to be worried about the side effects (spoiler alert, third term heartburn is no bueno, and boy do I wish I did belly binding after my second kid when everything came flopping back down). Anyway, those organs are made to move!
pregnancy puts insane strain on the body, organs are made to move a little bit and not for extended periods of time (like pregnancy, it is horrible for body)
I ended up getting diastasis recti so HAD to belly bind to heal because the Dr mocked me when I tried to explain I was in pain during the check up. It was SO helpful and healing, like having a 2nd set of abs to help me out when I needed it. When my abs feel weak now I still use it, even 6 yrs later.
@@TahtahmesDiary it's like... Literally the entire _point_ of doctors to listen to people about the pain they're in and then _do something about it_
@yeah i don't understand how people use this as a justification of how corsets are totally okay. it makes them sound worse.
No idea why this was in my recommended but I watched the whole thing
same lmao
Me too 😂😂
Lmao same
Me too.
Me too honestly it’s so nice to hear her talk.
Swooning in historical fiction = dramatic nosebleeds in anime
Oh god I hope historians judge our culture nowadays by something other than anime. Otherwise their perception of our society would be that of underdressed women with big boobs and constant yelling about friendship.
Oh this is so true!!!
Don't forget the tentacles.
@@icedragonair r/cursed comments
THANK YOU!
The comments to this video can be summarized into two categories
1. I like the way she speaks
2. I have no idea how i got here but i'm not complaining
I have no idea how i got here but i'm not complaining
@@Ceilvia I like the way she speaks
Both for me. Lol
Did you vote no to save animal, because my page it's glitching
I was going to add a comment including both of these things. Now I don't have to
I too have scoliosis. I had an S-shaped curve that was 51 degrees on top, and 53 degrees on the bottom. When we discovered it, it was so small, but they told us that it would progress with time and that I should get a back brace to help prevent it from worsening; however, because my mom thought that it was not good since it was "just like a corset". My parents didn't allow me to get a back brace until I was 13 years old. unfortunately, it was too late at that time. I wore it 23 hours a day for 9 months before I went back to my doctor and they told me that i needed urgent surgery bc my spine was starting to affect heart and lung function, and the lower half of my spine was so curved it was almost touching my pelvic bone. I ended up having 22 screws and two 13 inch rods put in my back, all because my mom didn't want me to wear "a modern-day corset". So, yeah, re-learning to walk, months of pt, and not being able to bend over is fun.
How did your mom justify it to you when she saw how damaging her choice was?
Look at the bright side. At least you didn't have to wear a corset that would make you faint and get tuberculosis and die until you were 13
/s
@@EmmaJohnsonShenanigans she probably blamed something else, taking away the guilt, deriving it into something else, like an excuse, is a technique widely used by the mothers I have dealt with and their problems with their children, and this is not exclusive to parents, most people do the same thing at the right time.
@@eternoplaceboexogeno5840 i’m really sorry that she attributed your scoliosis to something probably unrelated
“it’s those doughnuts you eat all day and your bad posture!”
-someone’s mom, probably
honestly from my understanding with scoliosis as deep as you have you should have went under the surgery immediately, since you should go under the surgery if you have more than 50 degress of curve. however that information is from my rehabilitant and specialist doctors so i may be wrong here
People seem to forget Queen Victoria wore a corset, and she was a bit fatter than the average women, AND she didn't tight lace it
Apparently Queen Victoria's undergarments/underwear were the same size as King Henry VIII's (8th's) armor.
ExCUSE me, but Victoria was a modern day XS until probably her 3rd or 4th delivery, and she ballooned after Albert died because she was depressed and inactive like she'd been in her youth. She was also like 5 foot nothing. And she delivered NINE children. Let's see what any woman looks like after that without a personal chef and personal trainer working her up 7 days a week. And being a queen, she would ABSOLUTELY not have breastfed her babies, which meant she was NOT losing her baby weight the usual way other women did (and still do).
Henry the 8th was already a very large and tall man in his youth, and the amount of food he consumed in a single day is what an average healthy person consumes in 4 days today. Add to that a debilitating chronic injury and several mental illnesses, and you've got yourself a fresh episode of "my 600lb life".
@@twiggyjali still, she gained weight and she wore a corset no problem
@@twiggyjali I'm not saying anything negative about her weight or how she looked. I just stated a fact
Good ol' Queen Victoria was also 5'.
Her english pronunciation is satisfying.
Indeed. It's refreshing and rare in this world.
The Paragon Of Pronunciations
It sounds very American
I noticed that too
I was waiting for her to say "umm," but she never did :')
I suddenly have the compulsive need to speak more clearly.
Spaced out kid 1 SAME!!
More clearly! Pendants everywhere approve of your intention!
Miss Lyn Yes, you can use words like "clearer" but in essays, you would most likely get a 1/4. Most likely, you’ll use “more clearly” being a simpler and better alternative. It also depends on what situation you are using it.
Miss Lyn Also,
The basic rules of forming comparatives:
One-syllable words take "er":
EX: clear -> clearer & sweet -> sweeter
Multisyllable words take "more":
EX: incredible -> more incredible (not "incredibler") & horrible -> more horrible (not "horribler")
Two-syllable words ending in consonant + "y" take "ier":
EX: happy -> happier & pretty -> prettier
Both "more clear" and "clearer" are acceptable:
@@jenniferpearce1052 Pedants also approve.
The real reason so many actresses complain is that the corsets they were forced into are trash and cheaply made
god she speaks like an english essay
And it's great
And I LOVE it
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As my nerd guy friend would say "that's hot"
English is not my first language but even I can observe how poorly English is being spoken these days - the lack of vocabulary knowledge and serious grammar mistakes even among teachers, doctors and politicians. The way she speaks should have been the norm.
I do ballet, and we often have to wear corsets to make costumes more flattering on us. People think wearing corsets are hard while chilling at a tea party? Try having an intense workout with one on!
KERK_THE_KERKTASTIC! I’m an actor, and I’ve had to wear waist trainers and corsets for several shows including musicals. I totally get what you’re saying, singing to a couple hundred person theater while dancing is so hard!! Wearing a corset in my everyday life is so easy compared to that
KERK_THE_KERKTASTIC! I’m guessing “running” a few miles back and forth on stage would be the ultimate test on fainting. 😳
Sylvan Singer yup 😄
Yeah. I danced as well in one. Was to crappy quality so the bones or what they called in English broke. And danced like west coast swing and other simular dances. Masquerade dance but it is like 5-6 hours off dancing.
This is where the historical romance novels get their “heaving bosoms” came from.
If anyone thinks organs will remain in the same position after corseting.... do they also think organs remain all squished and moved about after pregnancy?
@ Dani Woods you definitely have a good point.🤔
Tru
Ironically, the corset haters ignore the fact in case of obesity, the organs do get squashed, moved, AND remain in new positions under the stress of internal fat.
Did they not have maternity corsets? Corsets, to my limited knowledge, were mainly for two things. Waist shape, and to support the breasts as bras didn't really exist back then. However there were maternity corsets and they were worn by many women because not wearing a corset especially in middle class made you appear "loose" or "vulgar" so many women wore corsets often, some even in pregnancy, even though sagging/big breasts are natural during that process, it was still considered "proper" to wear it. I'm against corsets because to me, it's like a glorified waist trainer. Of course it's not a torture device made by the patriarchy (in fact women seemed to shame women more than men for not wearing them). I'm more against it for what it represented rather than what it was and what you were seen as if you didn't wear one. It's like how nowadays people are judged as sluts if they wear revealing clothing. While I don't believe it caused a mountain of health problems like people say but it damn sure is uncomfortable (as is any restricting garment) and unlike waist trainers, were worn for almost the entire day save sleeping and bathing. Also, unlike waist trainers, you were mentally judged for not being laced. I can't remember the name of the channel, but there was a video where a host was laced up like the average woman in victorian times and was tasked with going up a flight of stairs a couple of times and she was breathing noticeably faster, and her heart was beating faster as well. Corsets were even worn by women in workhouses. Imagine working with a corset on. Also, I think her using herself as an example doesn't correlate well, as her corset like contraption was basically a back brace and gave her support. The average person wearing a leg brace would be inconvenienced and uncomfortable, but someone with a broken leg would find it absolutely relieving no?
Yes, people grossly exaggerate the negative effects of corseting, but just because people weren't lacing themselves to the point of extreme thinness doesn't mean there weren't drawbacks. Yes it had benefits (it acted as breast support before bras were a thing), but the fact that "maternity corset" was an actual item sold is pretty crazy.
Maybe I'm just an idiot? I dunno. I just prefer to have on my restrictive gear only when I'm exercising and not throughout the entire day.
@@jameelagill5408 It honestly just depends on the person and how well your corset is made. I've seen videos by other fashion historians and women who dress in historical garments that have corsets made to specifically fit them that they find comfortable. So yeah it's not for everyone but some people love it and no one should be judged for it.
People forget that women still had things to do during Victorian times or other times that corsets were worn. They raised their children, did housework, etc. They couldn't do all of that if they literally fainted every time they breathed too deeply
Her speech skills: How I write my essays
Me irl: stuttering, ineloquent verbal English 😭😭😭
Me too! The struggle is real
She does seem to heavily edit the videos and the cuts in them are very noticeable, at least to me. I'm not sure how she'd be in a natural 1 on 1 conversation, without the edits; if she'd really be this consistently eloquent like this is the persona she portrays in her videos, or if she'd be be more colloquial. The way people have noticed the "some dude" line that slipped in, it may be more the latter point in the day-to-day of screen interactions, but she'd still likely be quite well spoken.
@@aethin6829 You can watch her vlogs, she speaks pretty much the same in casual conversation.
Aethin I literally just noticed…
@@rolanddawson3657 Haha. And now you will never unnotice it! I'm sorry. XD
She needs to teach me how she speaks like that, and does her hair
Eibhlin Nouwens she has a video on her hair :) and you may not get her accent, but reading more is great for your vocabulary
I actually read quite a bit, but what I wanted to know was how she managed to speak like that so effortlessly, and without stumbling. But thank you for letting me know that she has a video on her hair, I wasn't aware of that. 😁
I agree the styling is classy and flawless.KUDOS Bernadette!
How to speak eloquently:
1) Invest in a dictionary and learning "x" words a day as well as their definitions.
2) Understand English grammar.
3) Practice by using it in your daily life.
4) Do not use fillers such as "um's" or long pauses when speaking.
5) If you are interested in something, it is more likely that you are to talk about it with a sense of excitement. Thus, will decrease the amount of awkwardness within your speech pattern, but also keep in mind to properly pronounce and pace yourself so your audience does not feel rushed.
And also start practicing your Enunciation. Learn how to say words properly, rounded vowels and such. A good way iv seen taught in schools in which you learn how to act as a lady in britian is a little plastic stick about the length of the width of your thumb,, held between your top and bottom teeth so you can learn how to round your vowels properly.
But just in general, no filler words like um and ah, learning new words to express things and Enunciate, Enunciate, Enunciate.
In australia when i was at primary school you would get in to trouble if you used filler words in speeches, or in general talk hahaha
As someone who listens to audiobooks at 1.35x speed, I appreciate how quickly you speak! Thanks for not wasting my time by breathing!
My choir instructor did always say that 'breathing is over-rated'... she wasn't a very good instructor. My better choir director gave tips on how to properly breath.
😂
the power of jumpcuts. making a 1.5 hour reading as short as 15 minutes :>
@Danny BRITZMAN the strange thing is I can still follow what she is saying at ×2 speed.
@Danny BRITZMAN i now hate when people talk slowly IRL
I am an opera singer and from personal experience, which has been agreed upon by fellow singers, corsets can actually provide an amazing sense of structure as our main goal is to create pressurized air and the ribs have to be felt to expand and stay expanded while singing!
But also isn’t it better to take deep breaths?
When you sing, it's helpful for your core to stay taut. Something to do with better resonance or power. You can do this by having some muscles pushing in and others pushing out. Corsets help so that your core has something other than other muscles to push against. It's similar to how weightlifters wear belts, they too brace their core to keep their spine straight when lifting.
@@EmmaJohnsonShenanigans Definitely, it's all a balancing act!
@@leahpodz ah ok, good to know thanks!
This reminds me of those large wide belts that heavy weight lifters would wear when they train (and maybe compete?) My husband did deadlifts (different thing, I know, but the beginning part is the same) a while back and got to 200kg at one point, which he says is actually dangerous because the risks of injury are high if you are not properly warmed up and prepared. One day he came home with this almost comical looking belt, and said that it provides support when people do really heavy lifting, because you have something to push against and the belt, being rigid and doesn’t expand, gives the force of the push back to you. I suppose it’s at least valid from a physics point of view, something to do with Newton’s third law, perhaps…
Her diction is so strong. She's so stunning. This was in my recommended yet I have no interest in corsets but I watched the whole thing. 10/10.
Same
DAMN exactly the same here!!!!!
Me too!
SAME
Ditto #6
Opera singers looooove singing in corsets, and we HAVE to breathe down and out. Breathing up into the shoulders/upper chest is the first thing you're taught NOT to do. Of course our corsets aren't 100% historically accurate, but opera existed in the 19th Century and women were wearing corsets on stage that were accurate to their times, so it's still possible to breathe properly down and out.
Yes!!! I'm not an opera singer, but I've done quite a bit of classical choir and musical theatre in corsets. I find it very comfortable, and enjoy the posture (and breast) support.
Agreed! I once did a show three years ago where I had to wear a steel boned under bust corset for up to four performances a day. I had to sing and dance in it and keep it on for up to four hours a day. It took some getting used to, but after a while I loved how it helped me breathe lower and stand and sit up straighter. Not the same as a Victorian lady, granted, but it was far from tortuous!
That was what I was thinking. I'd imagine that as a singer or a player of wind instruments that you'd be unable to breath and play properly since the abdomen is used to "store" air.
Back when I was a music major, I LOVED singing in corsets!!! It was soooo comfortable and I always felt like I performed at my best while wearing one.
@@hillaryplace9726 Right?? I feel like it really helps my posture
Someone please show this to the ladies at buzzfeed
You speak as if they're capable of having a reasonable conversation... ;3
And Hollywood
@@Volvith theyre too busy bitching about Safiya Nygaard leaving their bitchy asses and actually being successful to have a reasonable conversation. As a feminist, they spit on the name of equality. That manspreading video was utterly atrocious content and behavoir.
Robyn Wilson I never knew safiya was apart of buzzfeed :o
@@letsgoalready5515 Yeah she used to be! Part of the Ladylike crew. But the girls were aparrently toxic (Saf never said this outright but its obvious: you can search "Buzzfeed girls shading Safiya" and you'll find plenty of proof), and BuzzFeed apparently doesn't pay well and stifles your personality and interests to be what THEY want. They gave her NO control over Ladylike, despite it being HER creation in the first place and they give employees NO independence. She has a whole video on it on her channel where she goes in depth about her mistreatment at the company and why she left it.
. As a matter of fact there is a CONSTANT theory that Buzzfeed is still trying to exploit her (a theory made by Safiyas fans but that actually has TONS of proof and has some big youtubers backing it up) that involves how everytime she posts a video, it seem Buzzfeed will post a video with the SAME idea less than two weeks later. Several other youtubers are former Buzzfeed employees too and almost all of them have videos on why they left (or in some cases were actually fired for appearing on videos that Buzzfeed didnt make, because BuzzFeed seems to think they own their image) that state very similar reasoning:
JustBetweenUs
Candace Lowry
Brittany Ashley
Kenny Moffit
Michelle Kare
ElloSteph
Chris Reinacher
I think fainting, as you mentioned, was actually a very common literary device. Not just for women - if you were to read Alexander Dumas The Three Musketeers, kissing, crying, and fainting was pretty common among male characters too. Considering that the book was written in the early Victorian era, this would explain the general trend. Of course women, as a more "fragile" gender, were subjected to such depictions more, but I doubt it has anything to do with corsets.
I agree. I think most literature of that time was just more 'dramatic'. Also, women in literature fainting all the time could have been a much used literary device to establish a man as noble hero helping a 'fragile' women.
Yep look at Frankenstein who faints numerous times some may argue this cause Mary Shelley was women, so look at shacksphere instead, who while a couple hundred years before that arguably proves the point more.
You have such an expansive and fluid vocabulary!!! I love listening to you talk.
I totally agree, but the hot cutting destroys any flow of dialect she is trying to achieve.
LET HER TALK !!!
Yeah her voice is so cool! 😁
I agree as well. She sounds very educated in her interest in corsets and in general. You make me want to grow my vocabulary. Lol.
Shes reading prompt cards
that she wrote
@@jaclyncamacho2420
she even cited her sources omg-
Her: "I've only been down this research rabbit-hole for a couple weeks."
Me: "I researched and wrote and presented this project today."
#JustSchoolKidThings
Research is a relative term.
this is vaguely worded like one of those "you vs the girl he tells you not to worry about" memes and i love it
The most frustrating thing here, is that I'm in school, and my teachers are teaching us stuff like 'corsets break your bones and reshape ur body and make u pass out' in class, when this stuff is supposed to be *accurate information* and yet I get more researched and well thought out information from a random woman on the internet than the people teaching the next generation.
I’ve watched this video multiple times and I came back today because of my history teacher. She used corsetry as an example of oppressive beauty standards in history. I’m very tempted to email this video to her, and I am certainly wearing my corset to school tomorrow
If you happen to live in America, it is a researched observation that schools here are not designed to teach you anything at all. Many schools were intentionally designed to prepare students for the average working conditions they'd be able to access at the time that many traditions of modern schools were being developed. That is to say, they were designed to teach children to work in factories. As time progressed and more opportunities for creative and academic expression in careers became widespread, the school systems remained unchanged, possibly due to the fact that the same behaviors expected of factory workers (acceptance of poor working conditions and low wages, ability to "autopilot" behaviors once learned, minimal sense of individuality, obedience to authority) are the same behaviors that many politicians want for their citizens, as it makes them conveniently easy to persuade. Since public schools are funded and controlled by governments, the people in government have a lot to gain from the behaviors children learn in them, and very little to loose by manipulating them. Additionally, these behaviors are very convenient for corporations now, further reinforcing them within schools. With all of this in mind, it is quite unsurprising that misconceptions and outright lies make their way into education when very important things like food health, individual expression, and international communication are left aside. The schools aren't there to teach you, they're there to program you.
@@connermckay4012 that..... makes so much sense, hyperbolic your statement is.😂
I just returned to this video because in my costume design class today my professor was saying how lucky we are not to have to wear corsets now and how it was the goal for women's waists to be so thin that their husbands could grab their waist with their hand and have their fingers touch
I feel like I gained 100 IQ points watching this
More like lost them.
Nah. Gained them.
Nyanko Sensey I wondered what your profile pic was, um, really a Siamese cat sitting on a peanut butter and jam sandwich?
I have 100
When I wore my brace, a kid ran into me in the hallway and hit my brace. He was really scared when he hit plastic instead of skin 😂
😅I had a brace too and that happened with one of my friends
One time my friends friend punched her while she was wearing her brace and he thought he almost broke his hand 😂
Reminds me when I was a kid I pinched my cousin's leg and her skin stretched so much I got scared 😭 turns out she wore nude colored stocking
@@sekar_exe I had on tights when my school went to a symphony and i was playing with them and scared my friends. I also have scars from my scoliosis surgery and while I was in middle school I was changing for a musical and a seventh grader saw my scars and thought they were self harm or abuse scars 😬. Luckily my choir director knew about my surgery so I didn’t have to do anything besides tell the seventh graders that didn’t know me so they wouldn’t report it to the counselor 😬
🤣🤣🤣
"Insert ceaseless list of diseases and ailments claimed but feebly or not at all proven to have been caused specifically by corsetry"
Wow, that was a sentence and a half.
That was my favorite sentence. I think I would even like reading what she spoke. LOL
I can’t even say ‘insert ceaseless’ without messing up
...But also seemingly deceptive (not necessarily intentionally though)as there are quite a few health risks but not specific "diseases" that most definitely can be caused by tightly laces corsetry. For example, if a tightly laced corset is used continuously over very long periods it has been shown to weaken muscles that would otherwise be at a reliably healthy strength in people with average lives thus, an over reliance on the corset can develop which puts strain on the woman's body. Also, tight lacing can restrict the amount of food a wearer can eat. While this may not seem particularly negative nowadays, let's not forget the fact that ,due to a heavier sociatal pressure to wear a corset, some women may not have wanted to remove their corsetry as often and as a result a general lack of adequate nutrition could result (this however is not extremely likely). Finally, tight lacing may cause the lungs to no longer be capable of fully expanding (whilst wearing the corset) thus causing short term issues with breathing, especially in cases such as with, hyper ventilation or simply extreme shocks as they have an increased risk of causing fainting as the lungs are incapable of functioning to their full extent (when wearing the corset). Needless to say, frequent enhanced risk fainting is dangerous, simply due to the obvious risks concerned when your entire body and it's weight begins to collapse in any direction (namely, violent collision).
@@wendysmith4037 Very misleading indeed. Rose tinted glasses I guess?
@@wendysmith4037 She literally covers all of these points in the video. And makes a significant chunk of her argument about how tight lacing is not the norm, and that's not what she's referring to.
Wow, as someone who wore a brace from age 11 to 15, this was SO affirming! Most of my life I've been trying to explain to people all these little annoying (and sometimes really frustrating/painful) side effects of the brace that might seem really unrelated to having scoliosis-- not being able to finish my lunch at school and then feeling hungry all day, excruciating pain related to muscle loss, total lack of abdominal strength, not wanting to take the brace off or do any of my PT exercises... 15 years later, I only just have managed to regain full core strength and be able to eat 3 normal-sized meals a day. Where were these videos when I was a kid?!
This is so weird for me to hear. I had two medcorsets from age 13-14, I'm from central Europe. I had to wear it 23 hours a day AND I was put on a strict workout regime to get super strong core muscles, since the whole idea of the medcorset is that it _keeps you together_ so your back muscles are not in use while you're wearing it. I'm reading all these comments and yours and I hear Bernadette say you'd all lost core strength and I'm a bit shocked at this difference in healthcare to be honest :O (I'm saying this because my country is very shitty, not because it's very good, don't get me wrong :D)
*her vocabulary is bigger than my future* -._-.
Than
Rm?
Army? Anyways same 😂
Is that a wild joonie? Omg I love finding army in random RUclips vids
Army =3
She speaks like the "T" in spongebob where he had writers block.
This is so specific😂
Yes, indeed she does
@@angelicalumbo9336 Specific, but accurate.
yes
lmao
How many corset myths come from producers demanding that actors in period pieces fit into too-small corsets?
I'd say most? Also wearing a corset on bare skin and lacing it so tight that there are red marks on the skin left after taking it off. That's BDSM stuff at that point.
Probably not aided by the likelyhood that those corsets were not actually made to measure but just any old corset the actress gets to slap on... Those are less comfortable even if the size is correct, which is another option too.
@Abdur Rahman If you're into that kind of thing, sure. If not, then no.
Well considering that producers are why horses are the most confused animals in Hollywood I would say a lot of them.
Kasumi Rina Gaming you are correct lol that is “BDSM type stuff” but it’s called tight lacing& isn’t done by people who corset regularly. It’s usually for aesthetics’s (or in my case, “BDSM type stuff” lol)
In theatre school, we had to purchase our own corsets and I made the mistake of buying mine then loosing a bunch of weight, causing my corset to be too big. My classmates were always horrified by how tightly I would tie mine up. However in reality, even though it tied up as tightly as possible, it was still too big, so I would pad my hips and bust, creating the illusion that my waist was much smaller than it actually was. It was actually quite comfortable.
Bernadette: I spent most of my younger years in what was effectively, a corset ......
Me: ..of cor-set was .
Groan.... 😊 (really, I enjoy a good pun)
@@teresaellis7062 this one was so bad, that I posted it, deleted and then reposted it.
I just screamed
I-
Sksksk this make me laugh so hard can i have more pun?
Also important to note that women used padding to create the illusion of bigger hips therefore a smaller waist in comparison! So when we look at images from the period what may appear to be a tiny waist is actually an average one with larger than average hips/bust :)
The ever popular bum roll!
As a transperson, this is something I have done to subjugate the straight lines of my masculine frame into the curves of something decidedly much more feminine. A corsetted waist coupled with padding above and below equals curvaceous of a sort. I just came across this channel courtesy of YT algorithm and am subscribing as this topic is of great interest to me.
so weird we still see women “editing” themselves this exact same way, 100 years later .
@@Nini-mg3ji hopefully the body positive movement helps with this idea .
@@Nini-mg3ji What is just as weird is not realizing that everybody is different with different opinions, desires and needs, and that your opinion as stated is an attempt to "edit" those of us who believe differently than you. It is fine that you have no interest in corsets, as well, it is fine that some of us do have an interest. Just as there is no such thing as one size fits all, there is no one way for all women. And for you to think that your way is the evolved way and that we corset-lovers are an evolutionary throwback is a product of ego, and stated as such, appears like an attempt to force us to conform to your arrogant beliefs, and if true, is revealing about just how unevolved you truly are. Live and let live. To each their own as long as they are not harming others.
Me: has watched exactly 0 minutes of videos on corsets
RUclips recommendations at 12:30 am: this video
Me: has now watched 17 minutes of videos on corsets
this is exactly me!!! i am finishing this video at 12:47am...
it has been in my recommendations for MONTHS.
and 5 seconds
Me: Hasn't done anything regarding fashion or corsets or anything like that
Someone in a discord: Go watch this guys!
Me: Wow, this is suprisingly good!
Me too.. I have no idea how I got here
Having worn a period accurate(except the boning, metal instead) civil war era corset for reenactments for several years, i can confirm they are actually nicely supportive and generally comfortable. Having the right size and fit is important, as well as not expecting a garment meant to be worn with a hoop skirt to also be made for action sports. As well as being a little less comfy in extreme heat than a modern bra and tank, this is more to do with the rest of the period outfit having long sleeves and so many skirts. Also
young women were often starting wearing youth corsets around the same time a modern girl would wear a training bra, so it stands to reason some of those would have been very small, giving rise later to myths of full grown women with 9 year old girls waists when seen by lazy historians
What is this channel? I feel like I am watching a time traveler...
Andrea Soto Jiménez A lady who likes victorian fashion.
@@alexmunch9275 cool!
you are
like Jane Austen or some old classic british film
@@Glidiany Exactly. That is why she got my attention!
When she said “some dude” i was shooketh. She used provenance in the previous sentence.
It is pretty funny🤔👍
Your own "shooketh" grateth on mine own nerves, but w/e. ;-)
and “squishy bits” ! :)
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Watched It All Even Though I Have No Interest In Corsets ✅
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10/10!
Everything is correct, except I am really interested in corsettes
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Everything is not correct. For example, when you breathe more shallowly and frequently, you place more stress on your heart and increases the risk of early heart failure. As another example, abdominal strength atrophying will affect her ability to stand up for long periods of time or sit up. The abdominus erectus (middle abdominal muscle, “abs”) and back muscles work together to keep us standing upright. Weak abdominal muscles will worsen back issues.
EmilyRulesUnicornz I agree with every word of this comment
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This is so incredibly helpful. I was just prescribed a heavily structured abdominal binder (Corset. It’s a fancy medical corset) for my Dysautonomia from Long Covid. My transformation into Victorian lady with consumption who must convalescence and take in the sea air is complete.
No such thing.
@@mojorisin8368 way to invalidate this person? Your comment was really unnecessary
Oh dear. Are you taking the waters at Bath? I hope they're efficacious, because long COVID suuuuuucks.
What's Dysautonomia? I've never heard if it before and I'm curious...
@@bethanybrookes8479 It's the dysregulation of your autonomic nervous system. Here's a great explainer: ruclips.net/video/TGB_cK0olRY/видео.html
I am fully convinced she is an immortal sharing some wisdom.
Fact.
She is
Obviously
She is but it is a secret
John Maclean's sister
Bernadette means business when she pulls out a paper out of nowhere.
Indeed Indeeed
After reading Dracula, I can assure you, there's no mentions of corsets causing fainting.
Now loss of blood and a few deaths, yes, then there was fainting.
Aleksandra Makari Ah yes there was a handful of deaths consisting blood loss from vampires “wink wink”
Leeching and blood letting were actually pretty costly, and they didn't drain all that much to start with. The entire story of Dracula is an allegory for syphilis.
I'm 15 and have just been diagnosed with pretty severe scoliosis and am about to get permanent bracing which is kind of a coincidence because I also REALLY love historical clothing/costuming. Its comforting to see that someone has gone through it in a similar way I will be. I'm not thrilled about it because I'll have to wear a brace for the rest of my high school life and probably more which is not the best time to have something like this happen. But I am glad someone I'm inspired by has overcome one of my personal struggles and insecurities. Thank you😁
Get a medical corset (if you don't have money for a nice corset, a $70 medical corset is a million times more beneficial and comfortable than a $70 fashion corset) they're cute anyways! I love mine. To avoid losing core strength which can cause your curve to worsen, do some ab exercises, just lay on your back and shift your legs back and forth. you can look this exercise up. These two methods together are what prevent me from needing surgery at 25 yrs old with very severe scoliosis. Best of luck to you, you are gorgeous no matter what your body looks like btw :) I know I sure as hell needed to hear that years ago
Please don’t let it get you down. Bernadette is extremely attractive.
As someone who has severe scoliosis and went through jr high and high school in braces and casts ! Hold your chin high and never take shit ! You are doing what’s best for your health ! I missed a lot of school because I had to have 5 surgeries . Blessings and love !
Erin dont you worry girl, i had the same experience in the 80's ( Portugal) and couldn't wear all that time the fashion clothes but i got the best support from my family and friends at school, accept that as a gift because its all about your health in the future and please, dont miss exercises all the way long, is essencial to keep your muscles training, swiming is perfect, pilates is essencial and you'll thank yourself for that believe me. Be proud of yourself on the process, you can do it. Kiss
Hey Erin, since this comment is two years old, how is it going? Did you get your brace/corset? I hope you're okay!
Love: from a fellow scoliosis-kid (I wore mine when I was 13-14, in 2008.)
I think most of the misconceptions about corsets stem from how they are presented in movies and other mass media.
Someone being forced into a tight corset makes for a great analogy for being forced into the rules of society. And a girl saying „ugh, I hate my corset“ automatically establishes her as a badass, rule-breaking heroine. See: Elizabeth Swan, Tim Burton‘s Alice, ...
It‘s important that we don‘t believe everything we see on TV, and maybe screenwriters should get some new clichees.
Um...'Bra-Burning Feminists of.the 1960s. Badass women rejecting Society's rules - in a very visible/sexual way!
So true! And even historical references to tight corsets and small waists were mainly from upper class women. The average woman would not have experienced this.
melancholia I think of the Meet Me in St. Louis scene specifically.
That makes a lot of sense.
To be fair in the first POTC Elizabeth Swan was most likely shocked by the tight-lacing that was being forced on her not the corset itself....it being 'all the rage in London' (since she'd undoubtedly had to wear a corset for at least a coule of years at that point) though it isn't clear in the actual film that she's reacting to the tightlacing and not the corset and it gets further muddied by one of the later scenes "if you like pain, try wearing a corset" which as we know is just nonsense.
It's taken me 2 of her videos to realise that Bernadette isn't British she's just an American that articulates strongly 😂
Alice thing she is using a New England (north eastern US) accent
But she doesn't have a British accent.... like at all.
@@connorsproles9239 yeah I know but for some reason that didn't occur to me even though I'm British 😂
@@Alice-sp5jd it's probably the "whilst" - I've never heard anyone say that here, we usually say "while". Not saying no one says that necessarily, only that I've never heard one person born in the States say that in the 3 decades I've lived here (I've lived all over). It's lovely! I want to start using it =D
"properly"
One thing that's interesting is that high waisted jeans are in right now and they usually cinch the waist just enough that you have to breath into your chest rather than your stomach. Never heard anyone bash those.
Aren't we supposed to breathe into our chests anyways?
@@Sofi-kf9oz no, the stomach. i know our lungs are under our chest but we breath using our stomach (getting round and flat again each time we inhale and exhale), and of course by doing that your chest will follow along but never only the chest!
@@eigenkatteneerst Honestly I only breathed with my stomach when I was a kid, I have been breathing with my chest almost my entire Life lol
I remember people telling me the contrary when I was a child and this is so wrong now I try hard to teach myself to breath with my stomach again
Actually men breaths more "into their stomach" while woman more "into their chest" because... pregnacy: It is un convenient for a girl breathing more into her stomach because this mechanism could damage the baby. Or at least this is what I learned at university.
For singing however It is general used a more diaphragmatic breathing, I thinking for resonance or sustain better your note but I honestly do not know
Women's style throughout the years: *Changes*
Men's style: Eh. I'll just wear a suit.
Okay y'all this is 7 months later and it's very controversial. Let me clear up that I in fact know that men's style changes a lot over the years, and IT WAS NOT MEANT TO EDUCATE! This comment was only supposed to be funny, that's it.
@Charles Fournier Phaneuf Ik it was just a joke xD
@Charles Fournier Phaneuf I didn't say they can't have fashion- I'm just saying that men's formal wear has usually just been a suit. It's not meant to be offensive. If you don't like the comment, just ignore it.
@Charles Fournier Phaneuf Ignorance isn't always bliss, huh? You just now notice it? Tragic.
Charles Fournier Phaneuf Chill it’s just a joke lol
@Charles Fournier Phaneuf Suits are fabulous. Especially on guys that dont wear suits often. Guys that wear suits a lot? Still fucking handsome, but casual looks gorgeous on them. Fashion is fashion and hating on suits is shit. Pass my word on to the next suit hater you see, if its no trouble. (this person isn't a suit hater, it was a joke. Only this one)
This ain’t a waist trainer this a back brace I got scoliosis
Yes but it similar principle
Love that TikTok
I snorted at this comment
The point is that not all corsets were intended/used as waist trainers.
she... she actually has scoliosis
If she argued that gif was pronounced gif, I’d agree on the spot
Reading this i pronounce the first gif in one way and the second in another-but we may pronounce them differently and this will probobly lead to some sort of mind boggling crisis
so long as its not jif we're good.
폭시 is it not pronounced gif?
@@mystii8134 it is, but some people insist its pronounced gif.
norwegianwiking because the creator of gifs said its pronounced jif
01:05 - I heard you say "strictly for the benefit of the male gaze" but my confused mind initially registered "strictly for the benefit of the male gays". LOL
XD
Gaze
Like that comment m e too
SAME
Aka Drag Queens
As a fellow scoliosis sufferer I wish with all of my heart that I had lived in an era where corsets were worn on the daily basis. My spine would’ve never deformed and I would’ve avoided the hellish and nightmarish pain that scoliosis has inflected on my poor tiny body. Oh and also I would’ve avoided a 10 hour surgery where they fused 13 vertebrae, such good times I tell you.
Omg.... I hope you're doing better now.
I was so shocked by such small numbers until i converted cm to inches and found out i do have a 23 inch waist... 23 inches just sounds much smaller then 60cm
katarina cvetkovic 23 inches is 60cm?!
@@Gloomysushiroll Yeah, from it cames the clasic '90, 60, 90'. 90 cms of chest, 60 cm of waist and 90 cms of hips.
@@jeffulloa218 _sweats in 96,76,114_
I just measured my waist and I have a 23 inch waist as well
Same with 61 cm! (1,68m tall 55kg)
It is certainly no that impossible and I do have curves too 🤔
People are just too overdramatic when it comes to thinner "smaller" bodies
fun fact: i wore a reproduction victorian corset with a 19-20 inch waist as part of a costume in a ballet. look up the esmerelda entrance, which is what the costume was for; it’s incredibly physical and i did it all in a corset, under stage lights, about 15 separate times and was completely fine
Correction: completely fine except for potential toe bleeds and point shoe changes. XD
To be fair, that is an incredibly tiny waist measurement, and FAR smaller than the average. Ballet dancers are generally far below average weight. I don’t feel envious at all. I feel sad at this story.
@@ytreece why
@@ytreece there’s a reason why some (not all, but some) ballerinas are that small. It’s due to the fact that they are the highest possible level athletes (and artists), and so would naturally tend to be rather small. That will happen when you do as much physical exertion as they do. Also, ballet as an exercise would be mostly cardio and body weight endurance type of strength- which tends to result in long, lean musculature.
I didn’t go professional (not as a ballet dancer, to be specific), but I did do ballet for many years, as well as other forms of dance (which I did get paid for). And I was pretty small. A US size 0-2 certainly. I also ate a LOT. Healthy, for the most part, but a lot more than I eat today as someone who is now disabled and completely, 100% sedentary (what extremes, eh?). Probably double, at least. I would never have eaten less than 1500kcal/day, and that would be low for me- I usually aimed for 1800-2000kcal/day.
Because when you have to exert that much, your body needs a lot of fuel in order to keep going. My meals usually consisted of protein (meat, eats, beans and lentils), carbs (whole meal pasta or rice, sometimes potatoes, and I loved my whole meal bread- a massive 4in high salad sandwich h just stuffed to the gills with everything was one of my favourite lunches), and of course veg. I’d eat fruit and nuts for snacks. I’d occasionally eat fast food, though not often, because it’s basically empty calories. They don’t provide the nutrition and long lasting energy you need. And I’d always spare a bit for some of my favourite sweet treats- chocolate and pastries are my favourite.
There did used to be quite the issue with acceptable body types in ballet, everywhere. This isn’t so much the case anymore in the West. Unlike in Russia, where dancers are expected to have that very long, lean line, in the US you’ll see short dancers, tall dancers, muscular dancers, busty dancers. And there’s more of an emphasis on health, and not just achieving the perfect line. There are still problems, don’t get me wrong. One teacher told me to bind my breast because “large breasts are vulgar, and we don’t do vulgar in ballet!” Ugh. I switched teachers after that. And it’s been really nice to see Lauren Lovett rise up the ranks at NYCB, as she is naturally very busty.
No, you aren’t likely to find overweight professional ballet dancers (though there are some companies that specifically hire people of larger size, that’s obviously a rarity, and honestly, some of that is a gimmick, which I think sucks). But you also aren’t likely to find overweight professional marathon runners either- and they’re of a comparable size to female ballet dancers.
So I hope my meandering essay (apologies for that) has helped you to not feel so sad anymore. I promise, it’s almost always just a product of the type of extreme exercise they do, along with healthy eating, and does not necessarily indicate an eating disorder. There’s nothing to be sad about.
@@katherinemorelle7115 your story is indeed inspiring. I’m glad you found a healthy lifestyle as a dancer. While I’ve never been on your side of dance, I’ve very much enjoyed it as a spectator. My comment was not intended to belittle or accuse dancers of having an eating disorder. It was simply to say that for the vast majority of people, a 20 in waist is not something to aspire to. There is no need for women to apply corsets or shape wear to their bodies.
I am also a small framed woman who has been very lean to somewhat chubby due to a medical diagnosis. I’ve been a distance runner, and an MS patient who sometimes simply cannot exercise. I also blew out my knees running. So now I’m around 50, cannot tolerate heat or prolonged running. If you’ve been a dancer and are now sedentary, you will understand. My spirit flies across the pavement or trail, but my body does not. If my self worth were tied to my muscularity or ability to move, I would be sad indeed. A small part of that is simply the memory of having been muscular, very lean, and physically powerful. It feels like shit sometimes when I can’t lift a box, so heavy landscaping for my gardens, or climb a rock. I live in the Rockies and can’t ski, snowshoe for any length of time, or kayak large rapids. I CAN hike short distances, snowmobile, ride an ATV, shoot, and canoe or kayak smaller currents. I am intelligent, and can study botany, hunt mushrooms, study geology, and cook. I can do these things near my home because I live in a natural paradise. I can’t get to the top of the mountain, but I can know the base of it intimately.
I sincerely hope you have found some things you can do as well, despite the limitations of the body. The mind can be nourished. The view can be enjoyed from the deck.
The closest thing I’ve ever gotten to a corset is a tight shirt but I subscribed because I feel fancy watching you vids
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Showed this to my fiance to explain the points i couldnt as im starting to wear a corset nearly daily for straightening my posture(partial tightlacing, not too extreme, i can breathe easily and fit my hand between my body and corset snugly) so thank you for making this video!
I normally hate this kind of overanunciation as it comes off as pretentiously trying to sound smart at the expense of quick communication... but you're so fluid in your speech that it just sounds genuinely... correct! It's positively, liltingly, poetically beautiful! Keep doing English goodly!
Same.Normally it sounds fake but her way of pronouncing actually sounds real.
@@randid.c3558 she lived in the UK for a long time (she's in NY rn) so both accents got mixed up. That's why she sounds not British English nor American English.
She make good words
So...if someone's voice doesn't sound like her's they shouldn't have a wide vocabulary and pronounce their words properly? I am just curious. I guess as I tend to run into people who think I am pretentious,arrogant, or otherwise. (At least by people who don't know me and don't realize I talk this way all the time.) So while I am not "triggered" I do have a personal stake in this.
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Don’t twist words around to make your argument sturdier. It makes you look stupid, which I know you aren’t.
me: *watching you speak for half a minute*
me: this one. i like her. she is cool.
Me....
You are loved by the RUclips algorithm. No idea why I am watching. But I watched the whole thing.
SAME
Same! Dont really know why youtube showed this channel to me but I'm glad it did. Thank you robot overlord!
Same here. Seemed so random, but oh well.
Same😂 Loved it though!
She's just so articulate and her thoughts are so well-considered. Maybe the algorithm just knows we love deep thinkers.
This makes me think of heels; not everybody is wearing crazy platform heels but many are wearing casual ones
I will now refer to my innards as “vulnerable squishy bits.” 😂😂😂
And yes they are.
I've heard that essentially swooning was a Victorian trend, something women would actively do when they were shocked to show they were delicate because that's how they wanted to be viewed. Following the "fainting" these women would rest for a bit and be tended to. If I was a wealthy Victorian women I would fake fainting if i was bored at a social event and i could see how the pressures of society at the time could have contributed to them wanting to put on the image of fragility to fit in.
"Damn this party is boring. We need a fainting or three. GIRLS. ORGANIZE"
They also fainted because they had access to this new gizmo that vibrated. Lol
Woman faking things for attention? Nah, I can't imagine that at all...
It was also a theatrical trope of the time in popular plays. It was big and showy and played well to the cheap seats in the top balcony. So it’s a “thing” in novels and plays and then jumped into silent film acting too. Swooning away was not common practice for the woman of the day.
I also suspect that it probably happened a few times in ernest such as if a woman with asthma wore an extraordinary tight corset. The resulting situation would have been so interesting and a drama filled that it would disproportionately influence fictional writing.
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I Grew Up in a Corset. Time to Bust Some Myths. (Ft. Actual Research)
Tasos Lechoudis 😂😂😂
That's how I got here! Lolz
😂 100%
Yep... And I watched it 😂
That's what happened lol
I also wore a corset because of scoliosis and I was shocked when you said that you loved it! It was the most uncomfortable time of my life (not because my organs were squashed) because it hurt a lot when sleeping and sitting. You made me realize that maybe it wasn't done very well :(
It is sweaty and extremely uncomfortable and itchy the first year but this is my 3rd year. I find it decent, and when I take it off my back position feels out of place so I think you'll grow to miss it the longer you wear it.
In my personal opinion sometimes is not that bad, sometimes it feels great and sometimes it hurts. I have quite a relationship of hate and love with and my back brace
I’ve personally always liked the feel of a tight spandex bodysuit. It’s like a thundershirt. Squeezing or pressure over large portions of the body has a calming effect. This probably contributes to some women’s love of a well-structured corset.
Hugs for days!
Yea like I wore a body slimmer (with ribs - basically a 21st century corset!!) From age 17 to age 23. I originally started bc I was insecure about my weight, but after a while the pressure was just comforting...
Now I just wear sports bras which achieves the same effect (in terms of comforting pressure), while also giving more support for the girls lol
Same with me! I love wearing girdles because it makes me feels grounded in a positive way. And it helps that I look even better in those too.
One of my favourite dresses is almost too tiny for me. It fits, but it’s very tight and I love it
@@mksabourinable How interesting. I've been wondering why my daughter, who has generalized anxiety, greatly prefers sports bras to any other kind. (I HATE them. I can barely wear them long enough to actually exercise in them.) But maybe that's the reason, they feel comforting to her.
I’ve been pregnant. My organs were massively squished up due to the way I carried. I never fainted. It was quite uncomfortable. Corsets are nothing on that.
My sister is barely 5 feet tall and had a baby with a man who is over 6 feet tall. My nephew was so big that when he stretched, she couldn't breathe. She had to keep going to the hospital but no one ever picked up on the whole gigantic baby thing. They kept giving her breathing treatments.
Thank you for this comment
Wait so is tightlacing still bad?-
Say you wear a tightlacing corset for like 7-8 hours for 5 days a week, is that bad or not?
I did pass out multiple times from the baby compressing my inferior vena cava (the vessel that returns the blood to the heart). But I'm 5'1" 120lbs, back-tilted uterus and carried far back.
Galaxy Pickle tightlacing is bad because that much pressure could actually deform ribs, but proper corest wearing didn’t do that
Logic: if every girl fainted because of their corset, how long do you think corsets would stay in fashion? And how much fun would a ball have been?
I think men would have been the first to object. How can you dance when your partner is fainting all the time?
Karolina Zabroska has a great follow-up video about this!
@@Risaala Thank you! I am going to find that one!
Well even these days, young women wear clothes so tight they cannot really dance when they go out.
Fun historical fact;
women ran the clothing houses that designed and made the corsets, not men. So making clothes painful to wear wouldn't make a holy hell of a lot of sense.
Does this mean if more shoe designers were men, heels would be more comfortable?
Immediately after watching this I saw a video recommended in the sidebar called "Three Inventions Deadly to Women" and the thumbnail for the video... was a corset. Bad timing or comedic timing, take your pick
I feel like women would swoon when they were over the convention/ were bored so they could go lie on the sofa by themselves. That’s absolutely what I would be doing. I would seem so dainty instead of perpetually pissed off!
"Oh, yes, I'm feeling short of breath. Let me go take a moment."
*in her mind* oh my god finally I can get away from this dude-
Eselcool think of the fights you could avoid!
@@maggiee639 Yes! 😂
Swooning put the "resting" in "resting (so over this nonsense) face".
Sarah Kelly oh yea totally. I was being somewhat facetious in my comment but I’m sure those balls were stressful as hell
I just realized I can't speak English
Same. At least I have the excuse that it is my second language
No American can
@@christmansonpunk2927 but I'm not American though
@@fusslig7811 same lol
Neefur con ee,
I’m literally in love with your vocabulary. Please be my English teacher.
I know, right?! She's fantastic.
In "The Secrets of Distinctive Dress," a book from the late teens and early1920's, the author has a whole chapter about corsets and how to fit them correctly. (Apparently, women of the time wore corsets to achieve that straight, smooth shape of 20's fashion. ) The author is very particular that not every corset fits every woman and it's essential that one wear the right-size corset for her body.
I remember those many lady's guides instructing ladies to NEVER sleep in their corsets and to spend time out of them- it seems a certain few matrons knew what was up when it came to corset health and hygiene.
Yeah but doctors advice the same thing for women wearing bras these days..
I feel like corsets were the bras of the past and I hate wearing bras unless they are a sport or bralette
I'd be part of the "screw corsets" train I'm sure 😅
Don’t sleep in any tight fitted clothing, the advice goes for everyone.
Be careful with binders, corsets, sports bras, and bras (any type).. even underwear is advised to not be worn during the night.
At this point in time, I can’t even wear a slightly too small shirt without going crazy when I’m trying to fall asleep.
Sleeping is how you recharge/heal, so it makes sense that you should unrestricted your body during that process.
Sanitation is the only real issue if it comes up at _all_ .
@@sammygecko_ Yeah in my family we've never worn underwear to bed unless we're staying with other people. Its just a thing we've always done.
I prefer to wear a bra everyday even if I'm not going anywhere just because it's supportive (I'm on the more busty side) so not wearing one at night is how I get a break from it. There's a noticeable difference in how my chest and back feel when I wear one to sleep and when I don't. It's better when you don't wear one. Your chest feels a lot looser because it's not constantly having boobs held against it.
Whitney Gibson they basically were bras, they supported women’s chests
I used to think corsets were the devil until I actually wore one. I have a large chest and experience back and neck pain as well as pain from ill fitting undergarments. A former roommate bought a costume corset for an event so of course we all had to try it on. My pain was instantly gone. All the weight from my chest was no longer on my back but has been redistributed to my hips. I quickly learned how to breathe and ended up wearing the thing for over an hour while we watched TV. When I married, I chose to wear a softer corset under my wedding dress. I often think about changing the aesthetic of my every day dress (lazy cold person who likes hoodies) to one that would allow me to wear a corset. There is also a line in one of the Outlander book where Clair faints from either fear or relief, and has the thought that maybe the prevalence of 18th century ladies fainting had less to do with the tightness of their dresses and more to do with the stupidity of 18th century men. It's probably my favorite line from the series so far. I love your videos and have actually got my husband into watching them as well.
There is absolutely no reason why you couldn't wear a corset under your hoody, but I understand the lazy part. Do they make quick release corsets? 🤔
18th century corsets (called stats, jumps, or bodies) did not bring in waist but pushed up the breasts like push up bra. So fake fainting in Outlander. I own and wear both 18th and late 19 C corsets.
some women with bigger breasts and back pains choose to surgically reduce the breasts. in comparison trying to wear a corset under a hoodie doesn't sound extreme at all )))
@@ThePhantazmya they actually do. You can have a zip front corset either with or without lacing in the back. It is not for tightlacing, just support/silhouette. There are all kinds of corsets out there. Take a look!
The fainting thing can actually be found in etiquette manuals teaching young ladies the socially appropriate ways to get out of an encounter with a particularly over enthusiastic man! Can't slap him, can pretend to faint and have all your girl friends rush to your aid to help you over to a secluded seating area where you really must be left alone to recover! Also there are some mentions of using it to see if a man is interested in you. Pretend to faint and see if he goes to catch you and assist you in going somewhere quieter. Any link to corsets is likely because it was added on as a way to keep the over enthusiastic man from following you as it was seen as improper to see a woman in a state of undress (i.e. in underwear) and so pretending the corset needed adjusting is a clever way to go about it. In some ways its kinda similar to saying that you're "going to powder your nose" (not very common now, but you may have elder female relatives who used to use it) when really what you need it to go for a piss! But its not ok to just say that. lol
Discarding/hating corsetry has become a universal symbol of female empowerment, but I propose an alternative perspective.
Wear a corset around that one friend that likes to tickle you. See their gleeful face fade into disappointment at your armored waistline.
THAT'S EMPOWERMENT.
Jessamyn Rose omg yes😂😂
Holy shit youre right i need to get a corset NOW
Orsolya Tóth I'm telling you, man, the POWER.
OM YES
Just wait until they go for your armpits instead