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  • Опубликовано: 18 сен 2024
  • Lance Armstrong is an American former professional road racing cyclist and 7-time winner of the Tour de France.

Комментарии • 7 тыс.

  • @danielmcdermott138
    @danielmcdermott138 8 лет назад +798

    "Is the tree juiced?" Fuck I've been laughing at that for 10 minutes now.

    • @r.weidmann7931
      @r.weidmann7931 8 лет назад +12

      YES!

    • @TheGimpwars
      @TheGimpwars 8 лет назад +9

      Hahaha 👌👍

    • @josephkleimola2
      @josephkleimola2 8 лет назад +41

      I was havin a drink when he said that, that's when I knew I fucked up.

    • @irvinghernandez6900
      @irvinghernandez6900 8 лет назад +14

      daniel mcdermott He's Christmas tree was probably on HGH and Testosterone..LMAO.

    • @jchawks08
      @jchawks08 7 лет назад +8

      Congrats. You got the joke.

  • @ymatT601
    @ymatT601 7 лет назад +3223

    The ball on this guy.

  • @lukebooth7586
    @lukebooth7586 4 года назад +48

    Lance is a legend in my eyes they were all on the juice and he still came out on top

    • @lukasmobus3024
      @lukasmobus3024 Месяц назад +4

      except the fact he organized everything, he tried to destroy teammates or opponents that got dangerous. Always had the best doctors, even had some dealers at the tour to get sure to do the stuff. Everyone was on roids, yes, but Lance was more + was super toxic to every other rider in the peleton except himself.

    • @johnnytexasboy
      @johnnytexasboy Месяц назад +4

      Nothing good came out of that but a fake hero with lots of money....sad story ...he was hungry for glory he was willing to lie no matter what .

    • @cyclingvideos1
      @cyclingvideos1 28 дней назад

      @@lukasmobus3024 this nonsense about lance having a leg up is bs. ill concede he is a dick but to say that usps had some magical better epo than the rest of the peloton is disingenuous. for a brief period they avoided tests thru transfusions. the rest of the world caught on quickly.
      ALL (and i mean ALL) of the all time GC greats were great because of their tolerance and response to drugs. he won SEVEN TOURS SEVEN. Next to no crashes, no bad days and he won seven in a row pedaling the same exact kilometers as the rest.
      what you and the world dont realize is that cycling is a cursed profession. the history of the tour goes back to the 1890-1930s when they took alcohol, strychnine and cocaine. in the 1950s they took amphetamines. tom simpson died and they made drugs illegal. in the 80s it was hgh. in the 90s-00s it was epo. it never ends. there never was a sport so classically romantic and tragic in a very real european sense than cycling.
      being a cyclist means you deny your wife, you starve yourself, you train at altitude like a monk and you take the "pilules" your team boss tells you to take. drugs dont go on 6 hour training rides every day. epo doesnt push the pedals.
      these men are soldiers and youd have them drink water to finish a tour. disrespectful to claim you understand the sport and dont realize that doping is quite literally the lifeblood of one of the most physically grueling sports on planet earth.
      ill leave you with some quotes:
      jacques anquetil (5 time tour winner in the '50s): "only a fool believes it's possible to ride bordeaux-paris on just mineral water"
      the pellissier brothers (after abandoning in 1924 tour de france, showing the reporter boxes of inumerable pills): "in short, we run on dynamite"

    • @bigbaz8314
      @bigbaz8314 13 дней назад

      such a retarded view

  • @bd603
    @bd603 4 года назад +1072

    say what you want about this guy, he walked on the moon and we didn’t

    • @ickdon7999
      @ickdon7999 4 года назад +12

      😂

    • @benandrews4581
      @benandrews4581 4 года назад +14

      That his brother Neil 😏😂😂

    • @JonMahn
      @JonMahn 4 года назад +12

      One great leap for enhance-kind. But hey, I voted for Icarus and love Lance Armstrong. Still. Always.

    • @akm1967
      @akm1967 4 года назад +21

      And he's a great musician.

    • @markwilliams7054
      @markwilliams7054 4 года назад

      No he didn't!!

  • @SpacemanXC
    @SpacemanXC 8 лет назад +5803

    I just realized that Rogan is Oprah for dudes.

    • @cjware316
      @cjware316 8 лет назад +26

      +SpaceManDawn Lol, thats been said many times before...

    • @SpacemanXC
      @SpacemanXC 8 лет назад +31

      CJ Ware Yeah, I'm most likely not the first to say it.
      But work is slow right now. I'm tired of sitting around all day without anything important to do.

    • @deathwatch962
      @deathwatch962 8 лет назад +69

      +SpaceManDawn Whereas me just chilling with Fallout 4, listening to Joe and Lane shoot the shit.
      Dont sweat it. Enjoy your hard earned leisure time.

    • @cjware316
      @cjware316 8 лет назад +5

      deathwatch962 Same, took a lil break from Fo4 to play AC Jack the Ripper DLC.

    • @cjware316
      @cjware316 8 лет назад +15

      SpaceManDawn Lol i haven't worked a job in 2 years...Besides taking care of my quadriplegic father.. LOL

  • @thecoolstuff99
    @thecoolstuff99 6 лет назад +1357

    Lance won 7 times in an even playing field. That's good enough for me.

    • @pread7491
      @pread7491 6 лет назад +7

      NetGuard agreed

    • @wokewatch8508
      @wokewatch8508 6 лет назад +38

      even as in everyone was paying off informants and testers to dodge getting caught? Or even as in lying their ass off to protect their ego? or even as in bringing everyone around them down to pretect themselves? Not sure it was that even.

    • @pread7491
      @pread7491 6 лет назад +1

      Ady P 🥕

    • @CJTranceAddiction
      @CJTranceAddiction 6 лет назад +33

      Seriously....7....fucking....wins....on possibly the most gruelling and intense athletic experience known to man. Yeah, obviously this guy was on something....HIS BIKE!!! because the love for your bike is the only thing that will make you win the TdF 7 times.

    • @imano424
      @imano424 6 лет назад

      lol

  • @sweetbruh96
    @sweetbruh96 8 лет назад +4022

    woah, i cant beleive this guy actually walked on the moon..

    • @NothingGangProd
      @NothingGangProd 8 лет назад +51

      +james “new age buddha” taylor LOLOL good one. (But incase you are serious, it was Neil Armstrong)

    • @somethingorother3742
      @somethingorother3742 8 лет назад +176

      +james “new age buddha” taylor no thats neil armstrong, this is the 20th century jazz trumpeter

    • @Garblegox
      @Garblegox 8 лет назад +13

      Well in his mind he's just going to Carolina.

    • @Simon-sr3cn
      @Simon-sr3cn 8 лет назад +34

      +james “new age buddha” taylor first man to ride a bicycle around the moon

    • @Justinsox39
      @Justinsox39 8 лет назад +74

      Crazy right. He rode his bike around that fucker too.

  • @shanahregguinti188
    @shanahregguinti188 4 года назад +983

    If someone came to 18 year old me and said take this and you'll get a 10 year 300 million dollar contract in a few years, but eventually you'll get caught and have to deal with the fallout, I do it every single time without hesitation.

    • @ryan82scott
      @ryan82scott 4 года назад +46

      No doubt. Also, none of us would care who this guy was; he never would have had the platform to help & inspire countless people, etc. if he didn't do the things the other athletes were doing. It's a hard thing for most of us to admit, but if the choice is between being able to compete or to toil in anonymity, barely making it, most of us would choose the former.

    • @alpinestarsracing1
      @alpinestarsracing1 4 года назад +30

      Damn straight. Anyone would, and if you say you wouldnt, youre a fuckin liar

    • @Stego1819
      @Stego1819 4 года назад +36

      @@alpinestarsracing1 There are many people that didnt do it. Most in fact. Also the problem with Armstrong is that he was a dick and ruined other peoples career just so he didnt get caught.

    • @lonewanderer2894
      @lonewanderer2894 4 года назад +33

      @@alpinestarsracing1 , nonsense. Not everyone salivates over money or things and some people out there would not sell themselves out for money like you apparently would. Not everyone thinks like that. Might be on the rare side in the US but plenty of people still value their integrity and character over money and adulation. And plenty of athletes also choose not to cheat. And plenty of people not only wouldn't want to be famous, but would hate it. Don't make blanket statements. I find it strange and amusing that people are on here trying to defend this guy. He lied, he cheated, but hey, that's ok, we would too! Bull. Shit.

    • @Steve-jo3cl
      @Steve-jo3cl 4 года назад +18

      @@lonewanderer2894 SO well said, but thats the whole culture Americans grow up in, get rich and do whatever it takes, Intergrity, Honour, Courage, Honesty and loyality have absolutely no meaning to them.

  • @terribrown4178
    @terribrown4178 5 лет назад +1352

    From Elon Musk to Lance Armstrong; the self described “meat head” Joe Rogan is arguably the top interviewer that we have today. Great job Joe.

    • @nopeteys2424
      @nopeteys2424 5 лет назад +29

      Jonathon Brown it’s cause he’s just genuinely curious about people and their stories. He doesn’t have to plan out questions caus he just follows the conversation and it makes for a much more interesting interview

    • @austinchristian7936
      @austinchristian7936 5 лет назад +3

      Wrong. Checkout valutainment

    • @RealLouWilliams
      @RealLouWilliams 5 лет назад +17

      @@williamneuzil7403 Somewhat true but that Ditto strategy makes for a good interview. If your interviewer is overly combative and constantly trying to debate the interviewee on every other topic then the conversation will get bogged down and the person will clam up and stop giving good answers.

    • @nickycritic5269
      @nickycritic5269 5 лет назад +6

      I wasn’t too impressed with joe on this one. He clearly knows nothing about the sport of cycling.

    • @WildNorthWestern
      @WildNorthWestern 5 лет назад +4

      @@nickycritic5269 🤣🤣 of course he doesnt he gets everytype of person who does different thing lol he never said he was an expert. Listen to an expert bicyclist interview him then.

  • @KevinTheNoobie
    @KevinTheNoobie 8 лет назад +1373

    "Our roided up guy, beat YOUR roided up guy!"
    -Bill Burr

    • @icarus8000
      @icarus8000 8 лет назад +19

      Love that you quoted this! Fabulous Bill Burr moment to date:)

    • @Kigoz4Life
      @Kigoz4Life 8 лет назад

      +kevinalvarado @ conan

    • @DaveSP196
      @DaveSP196 8 лет назад

      I love MK, what do you main?

    • @KillerKrab127
      @KillerKrab127 8 лет назад

      +kevinalvarado hahaha i just read that in his voice and died

    • @Shankabottomus
      @Shankabottomus 8 лет назад

      +Davey Jones no we don't. trust me.

  • @randymonster4105
    @randymonster4105 8 лет назад +852

    OK, so when Joe made the reference to Bill Burr's Lance joke in Conan, I went and watched it. What followed was 4 hours of watching all Bill Burr's youtube videos and only now have I returned to watch this again.

    • @EthanPowellMMA
      @EthanPowellMMA 8 лет назад +37

      +Randy Monster thats the power of the internet son.

    • @fortyforfree
      @fortyforfree 8 лет назад +7

      Some might say you should keep it going to hour 5 or 6. Get a taste of real comedy.

    • @gideonamare160
      @gideonamare160 8 лет назад +50

      You went down the fuckin billy burr blackhole dude! hows the wetha!

    • @mrimpossible4353
      @mrimpossible4353 8 лет назад +2

      Ya. that can happen with Bill burr

    • @kamikazeeog1886
      @kamikazeeog1886 8 лет назад +6

      wish bill burr was on JRE more

  • @patricklawson3413
    @patricklawson3413 4 года назад +163

    “ we fought the fight the way the fight was fought “

  • @vtaycur
    @vtaycur 7 лет назад +1969

    "He raised $500,000,000 for Cancer research, that's what that lie did" - Bill Burr

    • @1stPlaceDirector
      @1stPlaceDirector 7 лет назад +84

      Jonathan, actually you are completely wrong. Many people thought he raised money for cancer research, but actually it was only for "cancer awareness", which is completely different. "Cancer awareness" was just an excuse to say the money goes to something, but it was mostly just a slush fund, to pay for Lance's private jet and all the traveling and entertaining as a business expense. Do more research and you'll find out the truth. Lance knew a lot of people thought he raised money for research, and he never did anything to clear it up?

    • @baconlatte
      @baconlatte 7 лет назад +165

      The cancer biz is dirtier than cycling.

    • @drumtravelfun
      @drumtravelfun 7 лет назад +16

      Can you cite your sources...

    • @davidhickey4836
      @davidhickey4836 7 лет назад +4

      Jonathan Awesome quote dude!

    • @airish1531
      @airish1531 6 лет назад +7

      Jonathan Fantastic point...

  • @byronsanchez9649
    @byronsanchez9649 4 года назад +1515

    I once cheated on my math test so I know where he’s coming from.

    • @matthewcoveney4380
      @matthewcoveney4380 4 года назад +37

      You monster

    • @essm4179
      @essm4179 4 года назад +9

      This was not cheating on a Math's test! Ignorant you! He made an Industry out of it & went after anybody, as if he was Hitler, who ever questioned him. He should be behind bars!

    • @dazhwood
      @dazhwood 4 года назад +3

      No wayyyyyyy 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @benhood7708
      @benhood7708 4 года назад +34

      @@essm4179 0 sense of humor you have

    • @rorschacht8478
      @rorschacht8478 4 года назад +15

      @@essm4179 tard

  • @annn2780
    @annn2780 4 года назад +221

    can't believe this guy played the trumpet while riding a bike on the moon

    • @DillenWilliams
      @DillenWilliams 4 года назад +5

      This deserves to be the top comment. 😂😂😂

    • @ACNC1
      @ACNC1 4 года назад +3

      ..its no stretch (armstrong)

    • @justins2559
      @justins2559 3 года назад +1

      Tripple Whammy

    • @thejackbowe
      @thejackbowe 3 года назад

      ikr what a beast

    • @Michael-tf5zc
      @Michael-tf5zc 3 года назад

      What people don’t realise is that he did so much much more. He ruined people’s lives who stood in his way. In one case his masseuse accused him of siping and he branded her a whore and an alcoholic

  • @radioactivepotato2068
    @radioactivepotato2068 4 года назад +134

    He got caught cheating in a sport full of cheaters.
    People act like he's a serial killer.

    • @robf1801
      @robf1801 4 года назад +13

      It's more about ruining the life of the guy who was talking about it, via law suits.

    • @guitarsANDcars39
      @guitarsANDcars39 4 года назад +1

      *Europeans act like he's a serial killer.

    • @12Noud
      @12Noud 4 года назад +5

      He was very disrespectful toward people and destroyed lifes. That’s what made him so unpopular.

    • @masonwoioioi9854
      @masonwoioioi9854 3 года назад +6

      @Bob Armstrong was ruthless in his charade, ruining the lives of others to protect his. Former teammates, support staff, competitors, reporters - anyone who threatened to expose the Myth of Lance was bullied, discredited and defamed. It wasn’t just ‘one guy’ he fucked with a dozen peoples lives to protect his lies.

    • @suckieduckie
      @suckieduckie 3 года назад +1

      @Bob There is a big difference between "trying to ruin somebody's life" and telling the truth and let the official bodies of the sport and the legal system decide someone's fate.

  • @bobbynixon1289
    @bobbynixon1289 8 лет назад +212

    You know the funny thing is that if he had taken a different approach by saying "Sure I did it, so what. Everyone was at that time." and confidently stuck with it he would have been in a waaaaay better place than he is now (AKA the Trump method).
    He should have turned it around on those anti-dopers saying they were destroying an amazing charity that has raised millions for cancer just so they can make a name for themselves as 'the guys who caught Lance Armstrong'.
    He could probably still take this approach. Go back on Oprah and say fuck what happened, everyone doped back then, reinstate my records bitches.

    • @ACorlett48
      @ACorlett48 8 лет назад +3

      +Bobby Nixon Honest question. Do you think people could handle the fact that it was more about cycling to him than the charities? His purpose was to win, not save lives.
      (* he certainly understands being caught cut funds, but not cheating would have meant none in the first place .... )

    • @bobbynixon1289
      @bobbynixon1289 8 лет назад +6

      Acrltt
      Hmmm good question. All I know is him going out there and saying sorry a million times really didn't help his case. He's kissing the feet of everyone and most people didn't really care in the first place. It was similar to when the Kony 2012 guy went on Oprah... that didn't work out well.
      It seems that in the public eye it's far better to own up to something and counter attack and carry on your life than to cry for forgiveness from everyone. Trump, Kanye West, Kim Kardashian, Bill Clinton of today (not in the 90s, apologizing didn't help his case either).
      Joe Rogan is a good example of this. You'll never see him grovelling on Oprah, he would counter attack immediately and carry on his way. Look at the latest situation with Cyborg's dick.

    • @ACorlett48
      @ACorlett48 8 лет назад +2

      Interesting. You can tell from this talk that he wouldn't have apologized on his own. He still holds his golden jerseys and won't say he didn't earn them. Kony guy liked working the system, Clinton liked getting sucked off in the oval office, entertainment figures live it out. I guess the lesson is the video where you show weakness is useless or damaging. The video of you winning is priceless. It's a pretty good lesson. The proof of wrongdoing is on others and until it reaches Cosby levels of nasty just keep your mouth shut. Even then, rake it in and reveal nothing. The average person would never know. Act tactically, win strategically.

    • @theredline6829
      @theredline6829 8 лет назад

      +Bobby Nixon Trump method??

    • @ACorlett48
      @ACorlett48 8 лет назад +1

      The Red Line The apologize for nothing move? It's probably a good strategy. People know what they hear and are clueless about the things they can't figure out on their own. "I'm Sorry" might just be a stronger message than anything you could ever say after the fact. We're talking real action / effect. Not the idealized moral move.

  • @smn475
    @smn475 8 лет назад +405

    Look, if you hold a grudge against a fucking bicycle rider to such an extent that you're going to sit him down and demand an apology from him for PED's, you really need go fuck yourself, get a life, then go fuck yourself a second time.

    • @devinmcshaw
      @devinmcshaw 8 лет назад +1

      Best comment ever

    • @azmex82
      @azmex82 8 лет назад

      True

    • @AlexZalker
      @AlexZalker 8 лет назад +4

      +smn475 *cyclist

    • @mdee2581
      @mdee2581 8 лет назад +25

      +smn475 you dont get the point of the whole thing...nobody cares about bicycle riders but this guy is just fake, ripped off so many people and acted really shady...nobody gives a fuck about cycling but this dude went way beyond the sport

    • @mrstrong93
      @mrstrong93 8 лет назад +3

      +Matt D. well said.

  • @banjoman5
    @banjoman5 4 года назад +525

    "is the tree juiced" best comment ever

    • @GetintheCAH
      @GetintheCAH 4 года назад +13

      Is this comment juiced

    • @markwilliams7054
      @markwilliams7054 4 года назад +13

      'Is that the best we got?' (Meanwhile Joe laughs his balls off)

    • @VincesInHocSigno
      @VincesInHocSigno 4 года назад +4

      Joe's laugh was the best 😂 lmao

    • @PetrolPatrol
      @PetrolPatrol 4 года назад +1

      @@markwilliams7054 Then Lance is like "oh right yeah that was kinda funny"

    • @messhall4497
      @messhall4497 4 года назад +2

      Is the tree juiced Thts fucking funny

  • @carlwells9504
    @carlwells9504 4 года назад +258

    Something I learned having the same Cancer as Lance.
    Armstrong chose not to take one of the most effective Chemo drugs in his treatment as the side effect adversely affects lung capacity.
    Literally risked his life over the Sport.

    • @nickfedor210
      @nickfedor210 4 года назад +6

      Bleomycin. Had it myself for one round for testicular cancer. I'm in surveillance now but if it came back, it would be had to go back on Bleo knowing what it does to the lungs- I'm trying to stay an athlete at age 39.

    • @lm7_gio
      @lm7_gio 4 года назад +18

      That is legendary competitiveness. That sh1t is above-Jordan-level of competitive drive right there. Yet to most Jordan is a hero, and Lace is a "bad guy". What a load of crap. Anyway appreciate that trivia man.

    • @chrismiscellaneous
      @chrismiscellaneous 4 года назад +1

      Had 4 rounds of BEP myself back in 2012 I remember being pretty concerned about the lungs as well as the doctors

    • @PetrolPatrol
      @PetrolPatrol 4 года назад +1

      @@nickfedor210 Saw you in Bellator a few years back, I'm sure you've still got the hammers ;)

  • @snp4dx
    @snp4dx 7 лет назад +137

    Armstrong is still my hero, regardless of how fucked up his story is. He got me into cycling, his influence got me healthy, and his influence will keep me pushing pedals. Ride on.

    • @migdaoust
      @migdaoust 6 лет назад +3

      Yeah ! But You're grown up now, and Turns Out Santa Claus was Fake ... Never occurs to you that you might have connected more with someone true..

    • @migdaoust
      @migdaoust 6 лет назад +3

      It's like saying : Well yeah my role model was a child molester but guys, big love for him cause, for myself, he paid college.

    • @2ndEarth
      @2ndEarth 6 лет назад +2

      I liked how he doubled down on his tendency to lie and victimized his cheating by claiming himself to be a compulsive liar. If I were on your show, "I would have lied a thousand times to your face." That's not someone who is sorry for having cheated, meaning he could have recognized the possibility of having corrected his mistakes at the times, that's someone who is sorry for having been caught!

    • @brianjones8432
      @brianjones8432 6 лет назад +1

      The sanctimonious holier than thou hipsters in the forum are hilarious. He was the best cheater those 7 year. Sorry, you gotta live with that. Everyone was doing it, and everyone knew it. The only people asking for money back now are asking it from Lance. Which is hilarious, as the TV personalities, the cycling industry, the foundation, and sports betting all capitalized on it when it happened, and then cleanup artists like Oprah capitalized on it after the fact. Don't see any of them giving back what they earned, and they all knew damn well it was happening before and after. You would have to be an absolute moron to not know......smh....... Sorry if it shatters your dreams, but there are still people doing it in the sport today. The good ones just don't get caught.

    • @taugustb
      @taugustb 6 лет назад

      miguel daoust bro stfu that makes no sense, no comparison with a child molester and lance. Lance was caught in the middle he made a misTake like we all do and the things he fucked up he made up but the public who is not directly connected with him still holding grudges stop being a hater and go live your miserable mediocre life

  • @zanlao18
    @zanlao18 5 лет назад +46

    This is one of Joe's best. Lance expressed himself well too.

  • @djoetma
    @djoetma 8 лет назад +265

    Joe Rogan is treating him like a cyclist who just juiced. But the difference is that Armstrong was a tremendous asshole about it. He didn't just deny the use of the substance. He destroyed peoples lives while doing it.

    • @vinvincible8
      @vinvincible8 8 лет назад +34

      Exactly and he promoted himself globally under the guise of a good guy. Also he was a malicious person on his journey to the top.

    • @Mike9201984
      @Mike9201984 8 лет назад +1

      +C.L. Oker Sometimes the best defense is a good offense

    • @djoetma
      @djoetma 8 лет назад +17

      Dylan Gilreath Good argumentation... As to be expected from people like you. Armstrong actually looked like a tremendous jerk in that interview by his friend Oprah Winfrey who gave him the friend treatment.

    • @djoetma
      @djoetma 8 лет назад +7

      Mike9201984 True. And Armstrong was quite successful with it. But that doesn't mean he wasn't a bad guy who knowingly destroyed the personal lives of people. It wasn't just a counter, he went after them afterwards.

    • @user-tz8el7tk7z
      @user-tz8el7tk7z 8 лет назад +16

      Destroyed peoples lives? Its fucking cycling.

  • @AbleGoodman
    @AbleGoodman 4 года назад +309

    GREAT interview, Joe! You turned Lance back into a human being for many, many people (including me), and that's a GOOD thing.

    • @youngbroony744
      @youngbroony744 4 года назад +21

      Lance is a fantastic manipulator given the chance that’s why nobody wanted to believe he was cheating because everyone wanted his lies to be true😂 The guy Could kill puppies and make people believe there wasn’t any other options

    • @Johnwilliams-th9hq
      @Johnwilliams-th9hq 4 года назад +4

      @@youngbroony744 Provide proof.

    • @stevewalther2293
      @stevewalther2293 4 года назад

      @@youngbroony744 we all knew he was cheating...I always thought he was cheating...they all were cheating...he didn't trick anyone...lol...I know he killed puppys...

    • @malo4412
      @malo4412 4 года назад +1

      @@Johnwilliams-th9hq You could watch documentaries, reports from USADA or journalists which revealed his huge doping program and that he threatened people not to speak up against him or testifiy. There is your proof. And yes, he tricked a lot of people.

    • @lonewanderer2894
      @lonewanderer2894 4 года назад +4

      Two hours of hearing what an individual wants you to hear and you're convinced? Are we really that easily pliable and manipulated? A dance and a kiss and here's the key to my house? Astonishing. He's a good talker, i'll give him that.

  • @mike1158d
    @mike1158d 6 лет назад +319

    "AWARENESS" that Is the key here. 85 MILLION bracelets were sold why? because people gave a F*CK about the Bicycle Racing?? NO, because people wanted to band together and get behind this cause that effects EVERYONE. And "Livestrong" did A LOT of good. I am a 44 year old cancer survivor. I had testicular cancer in 2000. I laid in the hospital reading the book about the guys story, when it was FRESH. I ran a 5k Livestrong fund raiser race 6 years after my cancer was cured. I would shake this guys hand , look him square in the eye, and say THANKS.....any day of the week. Great work here Joe, as usual.

    • @bigjefe9257
      @bigjefe9257 5 лет назад +21

      January 29, 2019 im laying in bed after my testicular cancer testicle removal surgery watching this video then reading this comment and thinking I couldn't agree with you more brother

    • @Red-ju4mi
      @Red-ju4mi 5 лет назад +4

      I think people just wanted to band together. While I'm glad to hear about your recovery, live strong bands became a cultural symbolic object that transcended testicular cancer.

    • @thaddeusfarmanelli6706
      @thaddeusfarmanelli6706 5 лет назад

      Awareness is the key here? Awareness? Poli Madonna, the ball on THIS guy

    • @cali2491
      @cali2491 5 лет назад +2

      sure he did, with "dirty" money. Lance made MILLIONS for lying. He will always say "I did this for cancer at the end of the day" Hes such a POS.
      No one would give a fuck about him if it wasn't for cycling. And at the end of the day, Those bracelets was a trend. People knew about the bracelet bc of how "great" Lance was and then he pluged in his "Im a cancer savior" and everyone had to get one.
      If it was ANY other cyclist no one would give a fuck about what hes trying to promote. Plain & Simple.

    • @Contractnik
      @Contractnik 5 лет назад +3

      I can see that. He did some very bad things, and I hear he is a tremendous prick personally, BUT that doesn't mean he didn't bring goodness to people's lives through inspiration, so if it helped you, then GOOD.

  • @Xtsco11
    @Xtsco11 5 лет назад +683

    ‘Is the tree juiced ?’
    Crying 😂😂

    • @BostonsF1nest
      @BostonsF1nest 5 лет назад +3

      “Yes”

    • @transistor281
      @transistor281 4 года назад +1

      Only watched first 5 mins guy^^^

    • @davemustabstain7093
      @davemustabstain7093 4 года назад +4

      Makes a joke about Xmas trees and steroids and doesn't mention needles? Thumbs down.

    • @liftedchevy303
      @liftedchevy303 4 года назад

      I was dead

    • @Parc--Ferme
      @Parc--Ferme 4 года назад +1

      @Grendel _ ...... except that next guy would basically be the #30th place finisher because they were ALL juicing. Our roided up guy beat all the other roided up guys. He's a champion and raised half a billion dollars for cancer while he did. No one else on the grid would have ever been capable of doing that.

  • @scottevers8425
    @scottevers8425 5 лет назад +785

    How has he managed to land on the moon, beat cancer, win the tour 7 times and bang whats her name...and play the trumpet like a black man...he's for sure on the dope

    • @jccarty1477
      @jccarty1477 5 лет назад +11

      😂😂😂

    • @ewokisamokis747
      @ewokisamokis747 5 лет назад +14

      Neil Armstrong

    • @cahenderson0812
      @cahenderson0812 5 лет назад +35

      @@ewokisamokis747
      Erick you missed the joke.

    • @housinauthority5258
      @housinauthority5258 5 лет назад +21

      @@ewokisamokis747 you must be American

    • @NWinnVR
      @NWinnVR 5 лет назад +11

      @@housinauthority5258 America is a set of continents, the north part of which is 24,709,000 square kilometers. The south is 17.85 million km², together they make up over 6.5% of the worlds surface. Most estimates put the population at just over 1 _Billion._
      Kind of silly to lump all of us into one group.

  • @bennyg2086
    @bennyg2086 4 года назад +105

    It's interesting that alot of the times Joe offers Lance an out, or tries to segway into an argument that lets Lance off the hook in regards to cheating, Lance shuts it down almost immediately. Gotta respect his no excuse attitude.

    • @alexandretorresfilho1048
      @alexandretorresfilho1048 4 года назад +5

      He understands now that any attempt by him to self defend will be misconstrued. Better someone else defend you than defend yourself.

    • @cigardawg
      @cigardawg 4 года назад +4

      You clearly don't recognize ad hominem attacks or situational ethics. He is also lying about his apologies at that time. He has never apologized for ruining Greg LEmond's business, among others.

    • @senorboardhead
      @senorboardhead 4 года назад

      cigardawg How do you know that ?

  • @mcearl8073
    @mcearl8073 8 лет назад +561

    This was hands down the best Lance interview ever. Joe gave him a forum where he could be honest and funny that no one else was able to do. People are a bit hard on Lance IMO. When he had to piss was funny

  • @whoisharo4689
    @whoisharo4689 4 года назад +84

    Hes wearing a "mellow johnnys bike shop" hat. Mellow john is a play on words for "maillote jaune" which means "yellow jersey" which is the top tour de france winners prize. Its the name of Armstrongs bike shop.

    • @ovathere93
      @ovathere93 4 года назад +1

      Ahhhh. Well done

    • @Moishe555
      @Moishe555 4 года назад +2

      oh cool! i never knew that! that's awesome

  • @TheBlenderBaby92
    @TheBlenderBaby92 8 лет назад +289

    lol I thought you didnt believe in the moon landing Joe? this should be an interesting one

    • @Brrrrrt
      @Brrrrrt 8 лет назад +28

      Bike riders = astronaughts confirmes

    • @BizzyD13
      @BizzyD13 8 лет назад +10

      +SuperDeluxeAnuzBleach I thought you were serious, but then I saw your name

    • @FiveFingerDissy
      @FiveFingerDissy 8 лет назад +2

      lets keep liking this one guys

    • @imvalentin
      @imvalentin 8 лет назад +11

      +SuperDeluxeAnuzBleach After Neil Degrasse Tyson schooled him on the moon landing subject, he's a believer now

    • @sweetbruh96
      @sweetbruh96 8 лет назад +2

      Hey you stole my comment ):

  • @chrispig7748
    @chrispig7748 29 дней назад +2

    Lance got me back into cycling when he was winning the Tour and I thank him for that. I renewed my love of just riding a bike and that’s the best thing ever

  • @Storebrand_
    @Storebrand_ 8 лет назад +450

    Anybody else getting a bunch of "The Atheist Experience" in the suggested videos?

    • @phantomleeni8630
      @phantomleeni8630 8 лет назад +11

      Yeah lol!

    • @dabebop
      @dabebop 8 лет назад +18

      +StoreBrand And some whines guide to depression.

    • @DaveSP196
      @DaveSP196 8 лет назад

      Yes

    • @robotpanda77
      @robotpanda77 8 лет назад

      +StoreBrand Me too wtf.

    • @shinzantetsu
      @shinzantetsu 8 лет назад +9

      +StoreBrand yup,i used to watch them just to listen to the dumbass fundamentalist embarrass themselves.

  • @liftedchevy303
    @liftedchevy303 4 года назад +26

    I’ve always felt the way I do, and this podcast didn’t change that. Armstrong won all 7 of those tours and that’s a fact of life that will never change. In a sport of athletes all doing the same exact thing, who had what advantage? And what is an advantage? Well someone who can get better hgh or better doctors for the epo? What about the other team who can afford better bikes? Better tires, peddles, helmets, uniforms? Is that not an advantage? For a man who not just knocked on deaths door, but already had one foot through it, to come back down and say I am going to train and work harder than any other man to win the tour, not once, twice, but 7 times. He’s an athlete in my book. He’s a hero and source of inspiration in my book. And yet he still came out and has for years tried to reconcile with those he hurt, he has denied self countless time over, has paid a very high price for his wrongful actions. He’s paid the price. Let the man live.

    • @dominicperri6262
      @dominicperri6262 4 года назад +2

      duramaxwelder its not that... it’s that he sued people, fired them, threatened and ruined lives because of his lies.

    • @draganstancic6203
      @draganstancic6203 4 года назад

      The one on 29th place who didnt cheat won, he is a cheater end of story

  • @tallahassZ
    @tallahassZ 8 лет назад +143

    "is the tree juiced" ... fuckin' lost it

  • @mrski4945
    @mrski4945 4 года назад +14

    Was, is, and always will be the greatest cyclist in the world (in my book).

    • @swagataraha3707
      @swagataraha3707 4 года назад +2

      you were, are and always will be a juiced up sucker

    • @mrski4945
      @mrski4945 4 года назад

      @@swagataraha3707 take all the stuff you want, train all your life, hire the best coaching, and support and you will still never accomplish one thousandth of one percent of what he did.

    • @swagataraha3707
      @swagataraha3707 4 года назад +1

      @@mrski4945 sorry mate, if i've hurt your feelings, but someone cheating to create a legacy and tarnishing the sport knowingly is not someone i'll worship...
      well, it's true that i won't achieve even a fraction of what he'd achieved, but knowing that he's a cheater and still considering him the best doesn't make your life any better, there are other cyclists who are trying hard to make this sport clean again and make people believe in them and the the sport, guys like Armstrong (now listen up, he was my hero before all of this) has done nothing but tarnished the game, so you keep supporting him, meanwhile, we the fans of cycling will look for a clean and better person who might not win 7 maillot jaunes on the row but someone who will win our hearts with passion and love for the sport of cycling...

  • @twt3716
    @twt3716 4 года назад +136

    I remember reading an autobiography of a Scottish cyclist who won stages on the tour De France years back. He talked about doping ang tried to explain it this way. When you 25 miles into the mountains and your out of the saddle pumping hard and gulping huge amounts of oxygen down. Then your passed by twenty odd cyclists who are in the saddle peddling normally and they are passing you easily and breathing through their noses. He said at that point you either give up or join in.

    • @DreamBeatsBakery
      @DreamBeatsBakery 4 года назад +2

      Or bring attention to it and fight it.

    • @twt3716
      @twt3716 4 года назад +6

      @@DreamBeatsBakery The guy was old and Scottish. He settled all his problems with his fists and a French girl to keep him Company lol if I remember rightly he ate his stage winning bike in a week. Hard bastard. Good teeth mind.

    • @DreamBeatsBakery
      @DreamBeatsBakery 4 года назад +3

      @@twt3716
      Sounds awesome haha didn't know cycling gets this fucked up

    • @paulbrimble8204
      @paulbrimble8204 4 года назад +10

      @@twt3716 Then took a caretaker's job at Springfield Elementary School?

    • @REAL6
      @REAL6 4 года назад

      Do you know his name?

  • @rosiek649
    @rosiek649 4 года назад +53

    Joe is the best person to interview everybody he's very objective. Thanks for giving to the world all your videos!

    • @discordye4825
      @discordye4825 4 года назад

      Unless you disagree with pot...lol

    • @drexlspivey3047
      @drexlspivey3047 4 года назад +2

      I think sometimes Joe needs to push back more on guests saying 💩 that ain't true

    • @ehtlamzone2525
      @ehtlamzone2525 4 года назад +1

      @@drexlspivey3047 yeah he is sometimes a bit to friendly and dosen't challenge

  • @TheYesDave
    @TheYesDave 8 лет назад +480

    The greatest bicycle touring champion of all time, he took the same drugs as most of the others and beat them at their own game. Being angry at Armstrong for taking drugs is like being angry at Valentino Rossi for using an engine. They all were. I feel sorry for those that didn't but I still see him as the greatest.

    • @franbatista9062
      @franbatista9062 8 лет назад +18

      You said eveything, finally someone who can think and see how the things are. They all used the same resources so If they all did and he won is because he's better with or without those drugs.

    • @MattonicAndLime
      @MattonicAndLime 8 лет назад +41

      I think the anger is more directed at how he denied it, how he made other people's lives so miserable if they dared tell the truth. He's a nasty guy. And a cheater, of course.

    • @mj897
      @mj897 8 лет назад +10

      firstly they weren't all at I'm convinced of that. some people have morals, Lance had none and even forced others to follow his lead. He was the expert in it and encouraged the destroy a sport I loved. still to this day the nasty side of him is still there protecting people that supported him. he's not forgiven in my book.

    • @TheYesDave
      @TheYesDave 8 лет назад +3

      mj897 No I don't think they all were, but I think a lot of them were. I think that it was so prevalent that there is no point assuming that the 2nd or other top finishers weren't, so in my mind he is the greatest champion. I do think he has tainted his legacy a huge amount, but I still think it stands, albeit on wobbly legs.

    • @Josephus_vanDenElzen
      @Josephus_vanDenElzen 8 лет назад +1

      If i would dream of stardom in a sport, i turn out to have incredible talent, plus work ethic etc. But everybody else is taking something; i would have taken it also, level the playing field.
      Everybody was taking it, saw a documentary about michael rasmussen and the rabobank team on dutch tv few days ago, so unfair for rasmussen, rabobank knew everybody was taking it they were allowing it, had the cyclists under doctor control who were taking it, but when the media was pressuring rabobank they pulled him out and robbed him of winning the tour and 5 million per year salary.

  • @BostonsF1nest
    @BostonsF1nest 4 года назад +155

    I quite honestly could careless if he used PEDs... he helped raise hundreds of millions of dollars for cancer research and he put a spotlight on a dying sport and one that would otherwise be extremely overlooked and never mentioned at all in America. He’s still the greatest cyclist of all time imo.

    • @ericdominguez827
      @ericdominguez827 4 года назад +2

      Absofuckinglutely!

    • @popmur7089
      @popmur7089 4 года назад +11

      Would you say that if he was Russian or from any other country.... Doubtful.

    • @Xxhermitxxrs
      @Xxhermitxxrs 4 года назад +7

      @@popmur7089 stop projecting

    • @heidiinphilly4057
      @heidiinphilly4057 4 года назад

      100% agreed!

    • @BostonsF1nest
      @BostonsF1nest 4 года назад +7

      Pop Mur No because if he was Russian or from any other country nobody would fuckin care. Probably not even their home country. It wasn’t just the PEDs. It was the fact he survived cancer, it was that he was so dominant, and Lance has a personality that ppl are drawn to in the first place. Ppl think you can just take PEDs hop on a bike and win 7 Tour de Frances... like he said, the only reason he started taking them was because everyone else was, so what is he suppose to do not compete? Had the whole field really been clean Lance still would have won 7.

  • @rgdos1162
    @rgdos1162 4 года назад +9

    Let me be clear, Armstrong is a legend! He is CYCLING, he was the TOUR DE FRANCE. Love him or hate him, I've never seen an athlete go absolutely fn rogue on a bike like him. He was a world class triathlete at the age of 15. GIFTED TO THE GILLS! I've followed his journey since Plano, and he would have been successful without the juice. 7 time winner, maybe not. But there is nothing like psycho Lance looking back at the competition with that catch me B***** if you can.
    Magnificent interview JR! War to Armstrong 👊 Thank you for the wonderful memories and spanking the tours ass, especially the French fries.

    • @enricopallazzo3244
      @enricopallazzo3244 4 года назад +1

      He’s a dick, a liar, and a cheater. What a hero!

    • @outofretirement
      @outofretirement 4 года назад

      Enrico Palazzo who also raised $500million for cancer research

    • @enricopallazzo3244
      @enricopallazzo3244 4 года назад

      outofretirement Fair enough, but I imagine if he was a legitimate athlete people would actually still be donating to his foundation.

  • @RobPulson
    @RobPulson 8 лет назад +126

    am i the only one who never thought any different of Lance Armstrong?

    • @ChemicaLove
      @ChemicaLove 8 лет назад +21

      +RobPulson nah, he finished first. everyone else are just whiners

    • @elizabethsmith9624
      @elizabethsmith9624 8 лет назад +5

      +RobPulson Probably because you don't know the details of how he systematically destroyed loyal people around him because they dared to tell the truth about his lies. He behaved like a sociopath.

    • @giladthecohen
      @giladthecohen 8 лет назад +14

      +Wemble Ton snitches get stitches

    • @Josephus_vanDenElzen
      @Josephus_vanDenElzen 8 лет назад +10

      +RobPulson Our roided up guy beat your roided up guy

    • @CJTranceAddiction
      @CJTranceAddiction 6 лет назад +2

      We're in the few maybe, but far from the only one's. I think he still has a million loyal fans if not more.

  • @chris55top
    @chris55top 5 лет назад +519

    I think the biggest problem was the way he treated his friends, family, fans and teammates.

    • @shane-irish
      @shane-irish 5 лет назад +25

      Yes thats why i dont like him i dont care that he doping he all were

    • @ladywolvertonsdenduringqau8603
      @ladywolvertonsdenduringqau8603 4 года назад +2

      Right, like the guy on intervention.

    • @skorpion3993
      @skorpion3993 4 года назад +19

      chris55top Yeah it seriously was. Everyone was doping in the era Armstrong rode in so the playing field was almost completely even, and there’s nothing to take away the fact that he was one of the best road cyclists of all time. But yeah he was a piece of shit to his teammates, Tyler Hamilton revealed who Lance really was in his book.

    • @emboe001
      @emboe001 4 года назад +20

      And he seems completely insincere, and only regrets getting caught.

    • @JimChap
      @JimChap 4 года назад +13

      @@emboe001 Well he doesn't need to be apologetic and show shame to the public because he did nothing to them - he shouldn't try and show sincere shame and humility if he doesn't feel it - he was certainly an asshole to his associates but the public at large weren't harmed...Everyone else was doping and he feels he won all 7 tours fair and square - so do his top rivals.

  • @themoz1965
    @themoz1965 4 года назад +50

    I admire his frankness , good look to Lance for the future

  • @markarcher8500
    @markarcher8500 5 лет назад +22

    Don't knock your self to much Lance, You did what ever it's takes to win only a competitive person will only get what you done.

    • @destinedwarlord2128
      @destinedwarlord2128 5 лет назад +5

      Apparently it takes a competitive person to shoot themselves up with drugs. Yes, real brave.
      Apparently it takes a competitive person to break the rules, bribe to cover it up and then lie through their teeth. Yes, real courageous.
      That isn't the mark of a competitive person. That's the mark of a coward who can't face the music that they don't feel they can win on the merit of actually being skillful, and instead strokes their ego by shooting themselves up with drugs and then tries to convince themselves that they did nothing wrong.
      You aren't competitive if you break rules and cheat. You're just a coward who can't win to the rules. He got what he deserved, but frankly should have copped worse. He's lucky that he can walk away with only a fine and his reputation trashed for life. They went easy on him.

    • @teleguy5699
      @teleguy5699 5 лет назад +2

      @@destinedwarlord2128 He was doing business as business was done. No more, no less. If you don't see that, then that's on you.

    • @stevenhewes1990
      @stevenhewes1990 5 лет назад +1

      @@destinedwarlord2128 he competed in an even playing field and won.
      He is twice the man you are.

    • @matthewg4439
      @matthewg4439 4 года назад +1

      Destined Warlord Cry more hahaha

  • @TakesbyJake
    @TakesbyJake 7 лет назад +233

    I just want to point something out. At the 15:00 mark, Joe said that Lance was being deomonized for winning amongst other cheaters. I don't agree. Most people don't give a flip if Lance doped or not (I don't). Most people have an issue with how Lance went on these smear campaigns to sue people for slander and also lie about people to make them look bad because they knew the truth. THAT's why most people have an issue with Lance.

    • @georgexanthopoulos3003
      @georgexanthopoulos3003 6 лет назад +3

      Very good point, sir.

    • @jaybiecupcake4738
      @jaybiecupcake4738 6 лет назад +6

      Everyone made money from Lance regardless how he treated people lol Lance Armstrong made everyone around him rich and comfortable

    • @Desi365
      @Desi365 6 лет назад +1

      Right. Absolutely. Totally back you, there.
      He didn't have to be mean and destructive, he didn't.

    • @oppisjappatv172
      @oppisjappatv172 6 лет назад

      He`s not talking about the people around him. He`s talking about journalists.

    • @marcusmueller891
      @marcusmueller891 6 лет назад

      Great point, thanks. Saved one and a half hours of my day :)

  • @Glenners
    @Glenners 8 лет назад +196

    Joe still doesn't know how to pronounce Conan. CO-NAAN.

    • @spencersharp
      @spencersharp 8 лет назад +1

      +Glenners lmfao i noticed that

    • @metusbatmanv3951
      @metusbatmanv3951 8 лет назад +6

      +Glenners Shut up, moron.

    • @benjaminfredrick5791
      @benjaminfredrick5791 8 лет назад +8

      +Glenners Joe knows how to pronounce Conan's name. He was referencing Joey Diaz's pronunciation. You know, like "goomy bears".

    • @gjruff77
      @gjruff77 8 лет назад +1

      +Glenners it's pronounced Co-nun by everyone else except Americans

    • @Tigium
      @Tigium 8 лет назад +2

      +Glenners He's mentioned before how he pronounces it like "CO-NAAN" the Barbarian because Conan sounds shitty and gay.

  • @marathonna
    @marathonna 4 года назад +1

    Lance ...you are still my All Time Sports Hero .. Especially what you did for All the people who suffered From Cancer.. Thank You..

  • @dombaker1924
    @dombaker1924 6 лет назад +69

    Lance won a race in which every competitor was doping. That is a level playing field and makes him the champion.

    • @KC-UT4rmAZ
      @KC-UT4rmAZ 5 лет назад +4

      Agree. If everyone (including you) isn't cheating and you win, or everyone is cheating/doping (including you) and you win. Either way you win even and square.

    • @EoinEverard
      @EoinEverard 5 лет назад +2

      It's not that simple. There are only certain things you can dope to improve. Red blood cell count is one major one. It can only be put to 50. So if athlete A is a great sprinter with poor RBC of 42 he gets a massive boost of 8. If athlete B is really good at endurance naturally having RBC of 48 he can only improve his level by 2 and there is no equivalent drug to help say his sprint

    • @brucegelman5582
      @brucegelman5582 5 лет назад

      Yes and you are a sports physiologist who knows all about all the cyclists who doped.Please dont be intellectually disingenuous.Doping is cheating like cheating on your wife is wrong.

    • @earthman4222
      @earthman4222 5 лет назад

      Absolutely true. What I like best about Lance is that he participated in a system that made it impossible for athelets to compete without doping. He should be doing speeches in schools about how to dope so they can learn how not to get caught cheating.

    • @brucegelman5582
      @brucegelman5582 5 лет назад +1

      Armstrong is mentally ill and still cant feel deep remorse for what he did to so many people.By his own admission he is in therapy and likely will be for the rest of his life.His father abandonment issues screwed him up and turned him into a cycling narcissist second only to the ass hole in the whitehouse

  • @RhondaLeeQ
    @RhondaLeeQ 5 лет назад +33

    I feel for him. Things in life aren't always so simple. Good interview as always! xo

  • @CarlSchattke
    @CarlSchattke 4 года назад +38

    Lance Armstrong settled the 100M Postal case against him for 5M

  • @Ossiningbjj
    @Ossiningbjj 4 года назад +5

    I love Joe Rogan for the way he humanizes things and just have the ability to get people to open up and just... talk. This is a great interview

  • @jatinmaharao6888
    @jatinmaharao6888 5 лет назад +24

    1. The sport as a whole gained a hell lot from this guy. People who didn't know a squat about cycling started watching it and buying cycles. "Cycling" made money from his popularity. So give him the credit he deserves
    2. He survived a death threatening cancer and got back to competitive cycling in no time and pushed his body way more than most guys can. He then went on to compete at the elite level and at that time he was not doping(a lot). So give him the credit he deserves.
    3. After he was banned and after getting off the juice, he competed in triathlons and beat the shit out of younger competitors. Give him the credit he deserves.

    • @esvignettes7592
      @esvignettes7592 5 лет назад

      If he didn’t publicly deny and fight it till it was completely busted open, I’d agree.
      That’s not what happened and his wrongdoing didn’t stop at EPO use.

    • @josephmarshall6599
      @josephmarshall6599 5 лет назад +1

      @@esvignettes7592 Right on the money. Furthermore, how many countless ppl did he bully, threaten, intimidate, and try to damage on a personal level? He is an arrogant man without any morals.

    • @skulleton
      @skulleton 5 лет назад

      THe sport lost everything it gained when its image came crashing down.

    • @DragonKnightASN
      @DragonKnightASN 5 лет назад

      ESVignettes you wouldn’t admit it till it was proven either everyone once in their life has denied something until it was proven. Then you kinda just have to eat the crow

  • @wappaman1784
    @wappaman1784 4 года назад +67

    68% of all Tour De France winners tested dirty. Lance Armstrong remains the only one to ever be stripped. #FkkkCycling

    • @gorkyd7912
      @gorkyd7912 4 года назад +1

      It's like if a pastor cheats on his wife. Lance was being held to a different standard, largely because of his own words.

    • @lillithsternin7428
      @lillithsternin7428 4 года назад +4

      He was such a jerk. Still is. Glad that he got everything that came to him.

    • @NataPetrovska
      @NataPetrovska 4 года назад

      Maybe if he'd stop coming to TV shows and bringing it up he wouldn't be too? I don't see others on TV

    • @VitalMusic217
      @VitalMusic217 4 года назад +4

      This motherfucker mocked the world by uploading pictures of his trophies after bullying and ending peoples careers. Yet you think is unfair to strip him of those trophies. Crazy.

    • @guruofsnot
      @guruofsnot 4 года назад +1

      Floyd Landis

  • @dj4650
    @dj4650 8 лет назад +658

    I'm honestly not that mad at lance. I don't get the outrage at all. He's a competitive dude in a cut throat game. So he cut throats. Fin

    • @rusty1996
      @rusty1996 8 лет назад +35

      All the lies, denials, cheating, malicious accusations, etc. Stand up guy

    • @dj4650
      @dj4650 8 лет назад +13

      +rusty I hear what you're saying, believe me. But the facade of clean sports with honor and integrity died a long time ago. Sports and entertainment isn't about just skill and drive- it takes some real shitty moves that fuck over a lot of people to make it to the top of any sport. I think Lance owes a huge paycheck to the andreus, the masseuse, the sports writers, and any other person he shit on to get to where he is. But such is life- sometimes you get shit on. Move on.

    • @dj4650
      @dj4650 7 лет назад +3

      Kurt Adams do you feel like he was alone in his efforts to dope to win? Do you think the entire peloton was doping? Was lance just the best doper? Do you think TDF is clean now? I think lance owes the people he stream rolled a lot of money and lifetimes of apologies. But what he did to win doesn't bother me.

    • @dj4650
      @dj4650 7 лет назад +6

      Kurt Adams no one in those 7 wins has been proven to be a clean rider. Different riders have made attempts at clean runs but almost all have hidden or omitted results. That's why I'm saying the whole sport is dirty and I don't care who has the most stains. Lance is a shitty human being. Lance was the smartest and most ruthless doper. Lance also was the best rider amongst the dopers. That's all.

    • @dj4650
      @dj4650 7 лет назад

      I'm not trying to anger you though. I'm just saying my opinion.

  • @skillzlotus6030
    @skillzlotus6030 4 года назад +3

    Armstrong provided some of the MOST exciting cycling in Tour de France history. He won over everyone who was also doping. I'll say it and I'm not embarraced to say so... I f*ckin' LOVE Lance Armstrong.

    • @duress8801
      @duress8801 4 года назад

      And then he accused everyone else of doping

  • @Gutter_Garden
    @Gutter_Garden 4 года назад +20

    Lance rode to my elementary school in California we all got to shake his hand. Very cool experience

    • @karl8805
      @karl8805 4 года назад +1

      I have a close mate calles peter parker....big up

  • @ivangromicho4593
    @ivangromicho4593 4 года назад +11

    Still the champ! I wish I could see him race again.

    • @litedawg
      @litedawg 3 года назад

      The absolute GOAT. People on the periphery have no idea how badass this guy was.

  • @illusionen6655
    @illusionen6655 5 лет назад +9

    He was and still is a Living legend. The greatest in the history of the sport. No one has done what he did. Respect forever

  • @shoegum7362
    @shoegum7362 4 года назад +4

    They were on a level playing field. He earned those 7 titles.

  • @earthman4222
    @earthman4222 5 лет назад +12

    Lance was my hero back in the day. I ride 300 days a year at age 66.

  • @markharvey2812
    @markharvey2812 4 года назад +15

    Still an Idol and Inspiration I respect the Life of Lance Armstrong Competitor to the end

    • @KimPhilby203
      @KimPhilby203 4 года назад

      Ask Floyd Landis how he was treated...

  • @astro61362
    @astro61362 4 года назад +22

    Awesome interview. Never watched Joe Rogan before. Definitely going to watch from here on.

  • @soulsurfer8797
    @soulsurfer8797 4 года назад +1

    Lance is hands down one of the Best cyclist ever! Lance was the best of the entire sport during his period and most periods! He trained harder than EVERYONE, period.

  • @tomyoda08
    @tomyoda08 4 года назад +11

    Awesome interview...I think everything that happened Lance and everything he did was almost inevitable. Being American he had a huge fan base and that just multiplied with every race he won. His cancer recovery was almost miraculous and then winning the tour de France afterwards was like a fairy tale. That catapulted him to be the most famous sportsman on the planet. Then the cancer foundation he was part of made him even more popular...The dogs on the street knew the sport was dirty and too many people wanted to drag him down from his superstar status. Had he been from a much smaller country, never got cancer and won the Tour de France 7 times he prob would have gotten away with it. He did what every other cyclist was doing and found himself digging a deep hole.

  • @rayred74
    @rayred74 4 года назад +9

    It is 2020 and I finally got round to listening to Lance again. I was one of those guys that was angry with him. I was a hard defender of LA during his career and felt cheated.
    After this interview, I forgive him. I don’t support any road cycling anymore, but I am not angry anymore with Lance.
    I wish him and his family well

  • @morecowbell235
    @morecowbell235 6 лет назад +82

    My problem with Lance was not that he was one of many that cheated in the sport.
    It was the fact that he harpooned people who accused him of cheating. He was VICIOUS against accusers.

    • @spicacolorado
      @spicacolorado 5 лет назад +5

      so what you would have also if you were in his position. Please don''t lie and say you would have been a stand up guy.

    • @dragospatrascu577
      @dragospatrascu577 5 лет назад +5

      He stated in the video . That this is what made him ugly and he admits.
      True . Did not knew

    • @theRealSintaxi
      @theRealSintaxi 5 лет назад +10

      @@spicacolorado His story is notable precisely because nobody goes that far to protect their lies. He went out of his way to destroy lives & careers of others. In some cases those people weren't even trying to expose him. Lance is a real life super villain.

    • @AgentJ2007
      @AgentJ2007 5 лет назад +2

      Exactly, it wasn't just cheating. He shitted on the people who accused him of cheating, used his fame and power to bury his accusers. That is what rub people the wrong way. He destroyed people's lives to protect his lie and fame. Stephen A smith once mentioned that if would be very different if he were to win 1 or 2 tour de france, retired and start his live strong cancer foundation. Most people would have been alright with that. However, he continued competing in the midst of all these allegations. A person with common sense could see he was not competing for the cancer patients like how he portrayed, the fact is he wanted more money and more fame.

    • @0davydebrycke328
      @0davydebrycke328 5 лет назад +1

      Awaiting J. Bruyneel his book coming up... He and Lance acted like real mobsters in their era, it's not bout the doping, but how they went to work. Blackmailing, intimidation, corruption (paying UCI director after positive test, in the beginning), threathening the one's talking bout what was going on... they got high on their greed and power, difference with getting high on dope

  • @VinaX2R
    @VinaX2R 3 года назад +3

    Joe should invite Lance more often now when he's based in Austin. That was a great talk. I've listened to it a couple of times. Armstrong is an impressive guy no matter what. He was willing to do whatever it takes to be the best.

  • @MyEmily23
    @MyEmily23 8 лет назад +83

    Lance Armstrong is a beast no matter what

    • @flyingspaghetti
      @flyingspaghetti 6 лет назад +3

      Getting doped for 15 straight years grants you beast powers, that's for sure.

    • @airish1531
      @airish1531 6 лет назад

      Sam Smith godamn right

    • @nepdk
      @nepdk 6 лет назад +1

      lucaboden idiot

    • @ceili
      @ceili 6 лет назад

      flyingspagetti no, he's a beast. Everyone is doping! All those other guys who were doped up just like him didn't have an ounce on him

  • @maliant16
    @maliant16 4 года назад +20

    This guy was literally the most famous athlete in the US for the better part of a decade. He is one of the greatest stories of a fallen hero.

  • @tyleroneal932
    @tyleroneal932 5 лет назад +325

    The scapegoat of an era...

    • @shanenelson5811
      @shanenelson5811 5 лет назад +4

      Exactly.

    • @wtookey
      @wtookey 5 лет назад +12

      The asshole of an era

    • @benstadler4337
      @benstadler4337 5 лет назад +22

      Do some research, he did some really fucked up stuff to his teammates and those close to him. Hardly undeserving.

    • @billybobthornton5144
      @billybobthornton5144 5 лет назад +2

      He kinda did it to himself tho.....

    • @tjhammer24
      @tjhammer24 5 лет назад

      @@benstadler4337 thus making him the PERFECT scapegoat

  • @steve5292
    @steve5292 4 года назад +449

    Ped's are an ancient way to cheat.
    Nowadays men just identify as women and dominate their sports.

    • @passionbonsai88
      @passionbonsai88 4 года назад +2

      Steve 😂😂

    • @osvaldinho617
      @osvaldinho617 4 года назад +2

      Haha is this a reference to the board girls episode of south park?

    • @lauradeeisme
      @lauradeeisme 4 года назад +2

      how many times has this happened? can you name someone who wasn't trans?

    • @dolphin069
      @dolphin069 4 года назад +1

      Laura Dee Battle same same.

    • @onewillprice
      @onewillprice 4 года назад +1

      Steve .. so true

  • @mikemugs7
    @mikemugs7 8 лет назад +93

    Holy shit, literally just watched the documentary about his ruthlessness

  • @phenyomolefe4162
    @phenyomolefe4162 5 лет назад +8

    Brilliant interview, thank you for availing this to us. There are some rather interesting insights shared by both Rogan and Armstrong. Thank you.

  • @dj-wy4ff
    @dj-wy4ff 5 лет назад +63

    Win, lose, drugs, scandals. Still possibly the most determined athlete in history.

    • @earthman4222
      @earthman4222 5 лет назад +6

      We need to teach kids how to dope without getting caught. All kids should be doping by age 10.

    • @flambo1234HD
      @flambo1234HD 5 лет назад

      Earth Man 😅

    • @DC-wp6oj
      @DC-wp6oj 5 лет назад +2

      In history? Bollocks.

    • @thesheepman220
      @thesheepman220 4 года назад +1

      Steel Nerves it’s bollock

    • @leonidastsouris2557
      @leonidastsouris2557 4 года назад

      Absolutely

  • @johncopple6479
    @johncopple6479 4 года назад +38

    Viagra is a performance enhancing drug.

  • @ssuuppeerrbbooyy
    @ssuuppeerrbbooyy 8 лет назад +83

    Lance is an awesome cycler. His drug cycles were one of the best out there!

    • @bronenalladin
      @bronenalladin 8 лет назад +4

      Nothing beats Floyd Landis' epic stage- beginning to stage-end ride 06

    • @Slayn25
      @Slayn25 7 лет назад +7

      drug cyclist*

    • @snufte
      @snufte 7 лет назад +1

      Ahh, stage 17 in tdf 06'. The good old days when I really couldnt believe what was happening. And I got so much hate for it. Probably the most obvious doping performance Ive ever witnessed in cycling. And the face on the bitch Landis after the stage. I was still in denial about Armstrong though...

  • @dakotajames1824
    @dakotajames1824 5 лет назад +11

    Man. Long live Lance Armstrong!

  • @mdog86
    @mdog86 7 лет назад +16

    Being from Texas, I've always had great respect for Lance. Even after watching this, I still think he's an awesome dude. Really good episode, this one was great.

    • @frankmiranda707
      @frankmiranda707 6 лет назад

      Martin Adams
      You were alot happier that Lance won the tour de france before the truth went out Correct?

  • @Enonymous99
    @Enonymous99 2 месяца назад +7

    They should reinstate his records and victories, everyone was on epo, fair is fair

  • @Bigbrotherthunder
    @Bigbrotherthunder 8 лет назад +71

    "Holy shit" Anyone else think that?

    • @Alfador42
      @Alfador42 8 лет назад +2

      +Big Brother Thunder and The Master Blasters not only did I think it, I *said* it!

    • @kamikazeeog1886
      @kamikazeeog1886 8 лет назад +8

      yeah hah these kind of guests is what makes JRE the shit

    • @mrstrong93
      @mrstrong93 8 лет назад

      pretty much.

    • @physcobuny
      @physcobuny 8 лет назад +2

      +Big Brother Thunder and The Master Blasters THREE YELLOW MEN TRILLIONAIRE CLUB

  • @tcruzer
    @tcruzer 4 года назад +8

    Possibly the most informative interview ive ever watched. I really felt like I finally got the real story on this. I live in his home town and most people know someone who knew him. Like most interesting people he is complicated. I really don’t like the way he went after people personally and legally for what turned out to be the truth. Lots of collateral damage in his wake. However he seems to recognize that now and I for one do not feel his athletic accomplishments should be diminished when taken in context. I’m not sure all the individuals in the top tear were doping as he says but certainly a large majority were.
    Thank you Joe for a great interview and thank you Lance for your honesty. For what it’s worth I think the road you are on now is a good albeit long one but you’re used to those.

    • @carolynm9638
      @carolynm9638 4 года назад

      He recognises it now bc he has no choice! He lied and fought for the cover up for as long as he possibly could. No sympathy here.

  • @artimuspyle299
    @artimuspyle299 7 лет назад +697

    If everybody is doing the same drugs, But Lance is still winning tell me how that doesn't make him the best ?

    • @Desi365
      @Desi365 6 лет назад +39

      Because of 2 reasons :
      -you're never sure whether everybody took the same drugs. Everybody is suspicious the other rider has something you don't have
      -the same drug will not enhance every human being the same way. Some, for physiological reasons, will benefit more than others. So it's not a level playing field.

    • @ajsdsad3476
      @ajsdsad3476 6 лет назад +11

      You obviously have no experience in the competitive world of sport, which is fine, but don't spout off ignorant opinions when you don't understand the topic.

    • @chazz256
      @chazz256 6 лет назад +8

      ajsd sad Don't be condescending towards people who've never competed either. You make the rest of us athletes look bad.

    • @ajsdsad3476
      @ajsdsad3476 6 лет назад +8

      Condescension is what keeps idiots in check. People think they know everything about sport because they watch youtube videos and spread false information need to be put in place.

    • @sheltma1595
      @sheltma1595 6 лет назад +30

      It's not Lance saying that. It's facts. Look up the positive drug tests and how many other champs had their titles stripped too. Yep. He lied... but the drugs were and are a part of the entire sport.

  • @mikezaloudek4893
    @mikezaloudek4893 4 года назад +6

    Doping or not Armstrong is one of my favorite cyclers!

  • @cookingwitcalvin
    @cookingwitcalvin 6 лет назад +7

    Lance will always be a champion in my book! Live strong brother and Joe awesome video keep up the good work.
    You should Micheal Phelps on here that would be awesome

  • @nicholaskhami1101
    @nicholaskhami1101 5 лет назад +128

    I just saw this now, in 2019, and holy sh** this is awesome!

    • @HokusPokusSofus
      @HokusPokusSofus 5 лет назад

      wtf, where u been all ur life dude

    • @00blackfrc
      @00blackfrc 5 лет назад +3

      Not everyone spends all their time watching podcasts

    • @0davydebrycke328
      @0davydebrycke328 5 лет назад +1

      I live in Belgium, watched the Tour in Lance his days, could discuss days about doping but what was fucked up was that his entourage was high on greed, power, money... not high on dope per se

    • @pauliesmagic
      @pauliesmagic 4 года назад

      Only listening now ,😮

    • @nick18303
      @nick18303 4 года назад

      00blackfrc oh crap that’s why I’m not getting anything done xD

  • @MAR-kg9xi
    @MAR-kg9xi 5 лет назад +28

    The GOAT of Cycling...no doubt...You've done well!

  • @snook3032
    @snook3032 4 года назад +34

    “A nap is performance enhancing”😂😂😂

    • @poolmaster18
      @poolmaster18 4 года назад +11

      It is, just not as good as drugs obviously.

    • @benno8699
      @benno8699 4 года назад +1

      why are you laughing? Have you ever competed competitively? Every little things is gold.

    • @snook3032
      @snook3032 4 года назад

      @@benno8699 I certainly have. I thought it was funny. Why else?

    • @benno8699
      @benno8699 4 года назад +1

      @@snook3032 well just thought you'd understand it then, I don't see it as funny but coming from Lance it might be

    • @snook3032
      @snook3032 4 года назад

      @@benno8699 Word. while I sit here and pout cause I don't have time for my nap. lol! Happy Training!!

  • @cizia69
    @cizia69 8 лет назад +50

    One of the best interview I have ever witnessed.

  • @leonardusdesignleonardusde3479
    @leonardusdesignleonardusde3479 5 лет назад +20

    There’s too much money involved in any sport to keep it clean

  • @elnuevemendez
    @elnuevemendez 4 года назад +10

    He's the winner in my book. 7 time champion. He just doped to make it fair. Everyone was doping

    • @markmtbrider
      @markmtbrider 4 года назад

      LA7

    • @kackstuhl5528
      @kackstuhl5528 4 года назад

      "He just doped to make it fair". Noble, this Armstrong guy, wasn't he? All these legal cases he drowned people in and the journalists he slandered publicly? Shit happens, rght?
      See a doctor dude.

    • @markmtbrider
      @markmtbrider 4 года назад

      @@kackstuhl5528 he has apologized repeatedly for his behavior.....guess you were a perfect person all your life.....

    • @kackstuhl5528
      @kackstuhl5528 4 года назад

      @@markmtbrider thing is though, he's not your regular liar. He sued journalists and publicly defamed people who dared to express their suspicions etc.

    • @markmtbrider
      @markmtbrider 4 года назад

      @@kackstuhl5528 we all know how a lie snowballs , therefore the cover up like wise ....This day Lance doesn't try to defend what he did, saying he treated everthing in his life at the time like the tour. A must win at all costs. That behavior cost him dearly, all that said he won those 7 tour de France on an even playing feild and the UCI new what was going on but looked the other way for decades.

  • @paulbuikstra6077
    @paulbuikstra6077 4 года назад +51

    The fact that there is just a line in the recordbooks for 7 years will make it the 7 most interesting years. People will research what happended then. In 200 years, Lance Armstrong will be the only cyclist remembered of this day.

    • @ashleyplatt1321
      @ashleyplatt1321 4 года назад +2

      "Cycler"....😉🤣

    • @youngbroony744
      @youngbroony744 4 года назад

      Paul Buikstra what a way to be remembered the greatest doper of all time😂

    • @jimmyp9105
      @jimmyp9105 4 года назад

      @@ashleyplatt1321 cyclist seems right. Maybe its wrong, but it feels right.

    • @Rujewitblood
      @Rujewitblood 4 года назад

      Not trying to be a dick or anything, literally just a rhetorical question: who cares that he's going to be remembered 200 years from now

  • @CounterCultureCantCount
    @CounterCultureCantCount 5 лет назад +62

    This podcast was insane, you could tell Armstrong was constantly torn between the damage that his lie did to him and his family and the fact that he still thinks he won all those Tours. Like one phrase he was trying to apologize and the next second he was after Novitsky's ways, it was fascinating. Like he was dealing with an inner demon or some wild shit...

    • @ListenWell
      @ListenWell 5 лет назад

      Novitsky’s way?

    • @0davydebrycke328
      @0davydebrycke328 5 лет назад +1

      @@ListenWell he went after Armstrong because US Postal was sponsor of his team, governmental institution...

    • @ListenWell
      @ListenWell 5 лет назад +1

      0davy debrycke thanks, I actually had looked him up after I watched this.

    • @timkretschmer9341
      @timkretschmer9341 4 года назад +6

      Doped or not, he won. Seven times.

    • @julz19
      @julz19 3 года назад

      He won

  • @surfinDelMar
    @surfinDelMar 8 лет назад +337

    I guaranfuckingtee you that if you took away the dope for all riders LA would still win. Maybe not 7 but he'd win several. Dude is a genetic mutant and always has been since he was a pro triathlete at 15 years old. He's a freak of nature who has giant lungs and one of the highest VO2 max recordings in history...that's a fact and that's not something any drug can give you. He was blessed with big lungs that can suck up huge amounts of oxygen, therefore, he's working a lot less than others when racing. Let's not forget that this guy was an obsessive disciplined athlete who also just flat out worked harder than most. There's countless stories of his training regimen, especially in the winter when others were drinking beer and relaxing, and impeccable preparation with technology.
    The fucking government needs to move on and quit wasting our fucking money on dumb shit like pursuing an ex-cyclist.

    • @lonelyelk5785
      @lonelyelk5785 8 лет назад +11

      his VO2 max was in the low 80's, unremarkable for a cyclist. Chris Froome's is in the mid 90's. Not to say he still wouldn't have won from sheer drive and athleticism, but he definitely didn't have one of "the highest vo2 max recordings in history" that's bullshit.

    • @surfinDelMar
      @surfinDelMar 8 лет назад +17

      +Lonely Elk Wrong. Armstrong's VO2 was 84.0, Froome's 84.6. Lance is #22 on the list in the entire world so I'd say that's pretty good and qualifies for "one of the highest recorded." Of all cyclists there are only 7 above him.
      www.topendsports.com/testing/records/vo2max.htm

    • @MaceWinduDuHuen
      @MaceWinduDuHuen 8 лет назад +2

      btw you can actually expand your VO2 a whole lot through drugs

    • @99bimmer
      @99bimmer 8 лет назад +5

      I agree with the OP. If he was doing EPO and everyone else was doing EPO, and he still beat them, then what does that say about him. Even Canseco said that you can't just juice up and expect to do great things. You still gotta put in the work

    • @srivaddadi1
      @srivaddadi1 8 лет назад +5

      This is why incomplete knowledge is a dangerous thing.VO2 MAX is ONE of the measure of "potential" but not the only one. Then again,multiple riders,most notably Floyd Landis,had a higher max. Then,there is his muscle fiber type. Most Gen Classification guys reveal their potential within 3 yrs. Armstrong raced for 4 yrs before that,never thought of has having potential. He was never a climber,could only sprint,couldnt time trial. In a clean sport,he couldve been a Peter Sagan type rider at best but there is no way he could've kept up with the best,although there is no true way of finding out as the rest of the field was skewed too.

  • @Herbalifetips1
    @Herbalifetips1 5 лет назад +273

    You've got to admit - Armstrong's got balls to do this show

    • @michaelmorphites6733
      @michaelmorphites6733 5 лет назад +115

      Ball

    • @belzebuuu
      @belzebuuu 4 года назад +10

      @@michaelmorphites6733 When i saw Gordon's comment, I knew that this one answer had to be that. If it weren't you, i'd do it. This had to be said. Gordon knew someone would do this comment when he wrote his comment. I thank you, Michael, I thank you, Gordon, I thank you, Lance, I thank you, Joe Rogan, for showing me the way for this moment. You guys are great.

    • @jamesdebesse5147
      @jamesdebesse5147 4 года назад +3

      He won because he had a big advantage in left hand sweeping turns

    • @Dustinwhy8
      @Dustinwhy8 4 года назад

      Gordon Stoun you mean ‘ball’

    • @MegaMahuro
      @MegaMahuro 4 года назад +1

      the ball is juiced..

  • @rayerscarpensael2300
    @rayerscarpensael2300 4 года назад +1

    Lance proved he was the absolute best cyclist ever just because of his pace of cycling and his incredible cross-country rides in the midst of the TDF. It is so unjust what happened to him, while Jalabert and Fignon playing clean on TV.

  • @kevinzabel
    @kevinzabel 6 лет назад +8

    Still love this guy for what he did. By that I mean all the good he did! Road with Lance here in Brisbane Australia in 2011 for a charity ride and it was for the kids. All the best to you Lance! Thanks for coming clean. Best to your family. 7 yellows mate. Respect!

    • @banjopete
      @banjopete 5 лет назад

      Kevin Zabel ,rode.

  • @liquidsquid101
    @liquidsquid101 4 года назад +54

    Yes RUclips. Id very much like to see Lance Armstrong on JRE 4 years after the interview took place. Seems very relevant

    • @prathameshrr
      @prathameshrr 4 года назад +2

      I know right

    • @seanburke4622
      @seanburke4622 4 года назад +6

      Fucki it though we watched lmao

    • @b7grams
      @b7grams 4 года назад +3

      It actually is considering ESPN has a 30 for 30 on Armstrong starting tonight.

    • @canadiancaneat4553
      @canadiancaneat4553 4 года назад

      Jesus the world really is getting really stupid obviously you have no clue how algorithms work you probably never saw this video but you watch Joe’s videos you’re subscribed to the channel and it recommended one of Joe’s videos you haven’t seen before...

  • @WALTERJRRETARD
    @WALTERJRRETARD 5 лет назад +27

    Always good to see someone’s actual perspective for once rather than the media’s usually incorrect portrayal.

  • @jccusell
    @jccusell 4 года назад +79

    Make no mistake: his competitors were juicing just as much. He is still one of the best riders of all time.

    • @karl8805
      @karl8805 4 года назад +2

      💯 legit
      He trained harder
      Longer
      Reconned the course for 6 months

    • @aledmb
      @aledmb 4 года назад +4

      yeah, if everyone cheats and we catch the biggest of them all, let's celebrate the fact that he is still the best among cheaters... tf are you smoking, son?

    • @ipconfigearth102
      @ipconfigearth102 4 года назад +4

      He is still one of the best cheater of all time...

    • @jccusell
      @jccusell 4 года назад

      @@aledmb So your pick would be....?

    • @karl8805
      @karl8805 4 года назад

      @@aledmb he wasnt the biggest..he did 1 thing epo or blood dopes...other took steroids epo etc.... his was just organised the best...and he was the best rider...they all doped he was the best...get your head out your arse