Most if not all PS1 neo-geo ports cut a lot of frames up until KOF99. If you see it faster that's because it skipped some frames. Even the sound qualities are not on par to the neogeo (not for this release tho). As for the slowdowns i heard it was heredity from the neogeo version. Meaning the original metal slug 1 on neogeo lagged on certain scenes (mostly building/huge explosions).
Between these 2 platform it is a toss up, there is slow down in both(slightly more on the Saturn), there is more frequent loading on the Playstation, and there seems to be minor detail differences in some of the graphics/backgrounds, as well as a slight difference in aspect ratio. I would like to see a comparison between these and the Neo Geo original.
Seems to be a lot of ‘Saturn 2D stalwarts’ making comments without watching this video. The slight animation cuts and mini loading is down to RAM. Otherwise 2D game championing on Saturn is overused and tiresome. Much more 2D variety exists on PS1. Saturn 2D video capability is largely and ironically seen in its 3D games. But that’s another story…
What am I missing here? The ps1 version looks terrible with the missing animation frames and in-game loading times (which should not have passed quality checks imo haha) I love the ps1 but it can't do heavy 2D graphics. Regarding the saturn version. This could have benefited from the 4mb cartridge like the kof and capcom fighters no?
@@jonnyblanka Ps1 had KOF98-99, Last Blade and Metal Slug X from Neogeo side and Capcom vs SNK, Marvel vs Capcom and Jojos Bizzare Adventure from Capcom side that are excellent ports and Saturn never got. Also Ps1 has a big variety in 2d games that like with the Saturn 2d games, they stayed in Japan. So telling Ps1 cant do heavy 2d graphics is absolutely a lie. 4mb cart in Saturn was specific on Capcom games not on Snk ones and the only game that excelled on that was the Xmen vs SF (and Marvel vs SF), all others offered just a few more frames of animation and better loading times agains Ps1 same games.
this is a Neo Geo game, there's nothing special here, it runs on low resolution and low color. But it has animation in buckets, that's the only reason the stock 32 bit systems could not run perfect versions of it. X-men Children of Atom and MSH have reduced graphics on PS1, so, obviously, Saturn's fame on 2D is not because of its RAM expansions.
@@bizarroeddie1 don't get me wrong I LOVE the ps1 it's probably one of my favourite systems.. but if it's also good at 2D then WHY did it do X-Men and MSH so badly?
A versão do Sega Saturn tem animações melhores, parece que tem uns quadros a mais de animação. No Playstation de uns loading durante a fase...o que deixa muito estranho mesmo sendo bem curto.
I had the Saturn-version of MS1 and I also had MS3 and MS4 for the Neo Geo AES. People always make you think the differences are huge and the PS1 would be so bad at 2D, but to be honest: The PS1-verison looks totally fine for me and I would not have been disappointed if I had to play that one. Gameplay-wise, I would have loved to see some kind of weapon-powerup-system, so you have the sensation of getting mighty and stronger (instead of just changing weapons constantly) and more differences between the characters (are there any differences at all?). But I had tons of fun with these games, especially in 2-player-mode.
@@Marmite101 You're right about the loading. Same for Neo Geo CD. I was only talking bout visuals here. Cartridges had a big advantage in loading times indeed.
While the PSX got an improved version of the sequel that runs beautifully without a 1MB expansion. VC can't show you the Saturn version of Metal Slug X though...because it doesn't exist.
Sega missed an oppurtunity to release and market the Ram Expansion carts as Blast Paks. Then use the lock on tech from Sonic and Knuckles so you can stack em. All that would've been needed was a in your face ad blitz. Would it have help the Saturn in the long run? Probably not. Something talk about decades later.
Ps1 has 2 frames of animation for almost everything, water splashes, waterfalls, explosions, smoke. The shotgun looks terrible, looks more like a light gun. Saturn is decent but i don't remember it being so slow.
La version de saturn tiene ventaja.. pero parece como que fue mal optimizada o realizada con pocas ganas ....es mi punto de vista Hay detalles que saturn puede hacerlos sin esfuerzos y aqui veo que le cuestan mas de lo debido. Excelete trabajo y saludos desde españa
In PS1 they used to cut down some animation frames in order to reduce loading time. It's a compromise between reasonable loading times and fluid animation. Same thing happened to King of Fighters 97 on PS1
I discovered recenrly rhe PS1 port of Metal Slug X and... they fixed most of the MS1 port! No more loadings during the gameplay, more animation frames (not as much as on Neo Geo but far more than on MS1), great gameolay, etc. You really should do one day a Metal Slug X Neo Geo vs PS1 comparison. It rehabilitates the 2D capabilities of the PS1.
@@SnayperskayaIt is. Most of all X has far less slowdowns. They were almost unbearable in some parts of MS2. But X also has different color palettes, and a lot of tiny differences in level design.
@@SmSimon6978 É pq o ser humano sempre torce pro mais fraco, o ps1 estuprou o saturno, tinha jogos de tudo q é estilo a rodo, o saturno faliu rapidinho, não aguentou a pressão, ps1 o melhor vídeo game da história !!!
@@ricardonunes838amigo o Saturno era muito mais poderoso q o ps1 ....só foi mal administrado pela Sega. Já o Super Nintendo perdia em velocidade de hardware para um vídeo game 2 anos mais novo. Di nada, abraço!
@@davidamico1087 não era mais poderoso q o ps1 de jeito nenhum, só para jogos 2d, o ps1 tinha efeitos de transparência melhor q o saturno e a placa de vídeo do ps1 era bem melhor q o saturno e mesmo q isso q vc falou fosse verdade não importa, oq importa é oq saiu pra jogar e ps1 triturou o saturno, gran turismo, tekken, sou calibur, final fantasy, silent hill, residente 2 e 3, vários tomb raiders, need for speed vários, rapaz se eu ficar aqui colocando todos os jogos de ps1 aqui q esculachavam o saturno eu vou ficar 1 dia inteiro pra fazer isso, e até em jogos 2d eu prefiro o ps1 pq ele tinha the king 98 e 99 além de capcom vs snk e fatal fury dominated mind além de outros q não saíram para o saturno pq ele não aguentou a pressão e faliu, ps1 foi o melhor console da história e quanto ao mega nem preciso falar tb, levou uma surra do super nintendo, mas não foi uma surra tão grande igual o saturno levou, as game houses daqui do rio de janeiro só tinham super nintendo, até fliper colocavam super nintendo dentro, o processador do super nintendo tinha mais recursos q o do mega como o modem 7 por exemplo, mega não tem nenhum jogo com a qualidade de donkey kong e street fighter zero 2, yoshi sland e vários outros, joga arctraizer 2 do snes q vc vai babar com o som daquele jogo, além dos gráficos incríveis, fora muitos outros q davam um banho no mega como mortal kombat 2 além de vários outros !!!
Até joguei a versão do ps1 na epoca, mas nada se compara ao Neo Geo. A do PS1 tem muitos frames de animação cortados, até mesmo do cenário, o saturno mesmo as vezes em câmera lenta roda melhor, e a paleta de cores é levemente mais fria. O som do playstation é muito abafado tbm. Boa comparação. Quero ver mais comprações com jogos do neo geo, a Ferrari dos 16bits.
Saturn - Mais quadros e sem loading nas fases = Slowdown PS - Menos quadros e loading nas fases = Melhor performance Qual vc. prefere? No mais, que jogo lindo, tá loco! T+
Looking at the detail of the waterfall in the first boss, it seems better to me in the Saturn version, and these data loading from the ps1 what is that?
The moral of the story here: If the developer isn't doing a good job, it doesn't matter if your hardware is better suited to that specific kind of game.
The PS1 explosion animations etc. were not great, and I found the loading really detrimental when I owned it. Nicely drawn and animated classic original game, its beyond the capacity of both consoles without ram upgrades to replicate the single level loads required. Saturn had the RAM options which is good.
Saturn runs slower, has more animations, and has no loading times. PS is faster, has loadings and missing animations. Both lack some voice lines. Like "Mission 1 Start", "You are great!" and the "Mission Complete!". But having a great game like metal slug at home, is priceless.
@@califaern3stoexcept for all the water effects (like 2 frames at 10000 FPS to mask the missing animations you can see in Saturn version; thought it was ironic that both used the dithering instead of transparencies for the ones you walk under since it the main thing people say PS1 beats out Saturn 2D graphics it was considered something the Saturn couldn't do (even though it could, as certain publishers did so in plenty games by using the VDP2 layers creatively). They could've used that as a point to them that compensates for all the missing animation frames, loading times mid level, and that ugly AF shotgun blast. The only thing i can say PS1 has a slight edge over the Saturn version is the increased layers of ahd more pronounced parallax scrolling. Otherwise, the Saturn beats it out in even with the slowdown because thst was actually in the first 2 MVS/AES versions of the series - thus the existence of Metal Slug X, a reworked version of MS2 that ran as well as the improvements they learned to use from then on. Was always confused why X had the same levels as 2 until I played the first one. I have the MVSX arcade machine by Unico that comes w/ 1-5 and it still has the slowdown in both MVS and AES roms in the same spots in 1 and 2. Therefore, i can't really hold it against the Saturn. - especially if it used the 4MB RAM cart insread if the 1MB expansion, which I assume it would've because it likely existed by then and why not use as much extra RAM available. They should've made all 1MB cart compatible games the option of using the 4MB cart so you could improve performance even more if you had acess to more memory (plus would only need the 4MB cart if you aren't using one of the 3/4-in-1 pseudokai carts or similar). I don't know how much they could improve performance in this port though considering it was technically faithful to how the arcade version played.
@@quinnhofmann5399 Metal Slug was April 4th, 1997. The 4MB RAM cart was released November 27th, 1997. So no. There was no way they could have had forward compatibility unless Sega told them they were releasing a 4MB cart. Which doesn't seem to be the case because it's Sega in the 90s. Sega didn't bother to tell SNK about the RAM expansion cart early, that's why King of Fighters 95 had that ROM cart, that can only be used with KOF95.
@@BurritoKingdom I was thinking it'd be cool if the 4MB cart worked in a way were games that used the 1MB cart and it could use 25% of the how 4MB extra ram plugged into the console (some can) as some only work when 1MB is inserted even though it doesn't need the other 3MB available probably via some check that looks at the total RAM value and if it's 1MB more than the amount the base console contains it gives it the OK to boot. There is a reason why those 3/4-in-1 carts to have a switch with positions for 1MB, 4MB, or none because Metal Slug only boots when at the 1MB position even when there is more than enough than what it needs... then as more of a pipe dream wish, that the way the software and hardware interface together allowed for the equivalent of overclocking. Obviously devs wouldn't know how to preemptively code for something in the future they don't know exits, but the explanation you gave to you show how stupid my thought was is exactly what PC gamers do and been doing for decades to get better performance settings for a game that's struggling to smoothly run at settings they consider playable: installing more RAM or GPU/CPU processing power. It isn't that far off to think that games that can optionally utilize more memory than the base amount in the console that it wouldn't need exactly 1MB inserted but not use some of the memory of a cart with even more, and if they're making a game that utilized the RAM expansion slot it isn't that crazy to think the devs could forese a bigger one is possible and code it in a way that could use more if available but run with what the current max is. I mean, it was marketed as having a slot for expanding memory and I'm sure devs were privy to a lot more inside info than the public. Why you gotta shoot down a totally theoretical idea and question my reasoning skills, yo?
28:10 ¿Porqué en PlayStation es más rápido que SEGA Saturn?... Tengo entendido que SEGA Saturn tiene dos procesadores independientes, que programados correctamente hace que la consola (Saturn) tenga ciertas ventajas por sobre PlayStation; Además que popularmente se sabe que la SEGA Saturn en juegos 2D le gana a la PlayStation.
*muita gente falando do Slowdown do Saturn que tem e tem a rodo , mas esquece que do NEO GEO é um simulador de SLOWODOWN tudo da slowdown e se jogar de 2 players o proprio metal slung 2 que rida a 5 fps no neo geo*
os dois primeiros metal slug tinha problema de slowdown, isso ate mesmo no proprio arcade por que era muita coisa na tela, no X ainda existia slowdown, so que era bem menos perceptivel
Both great conversions. Saturn runs slower and seems to have more slowdown. PS1 has those annoying pauses for loading. I am surprised that losing could not have been hidden . Such an imaginative game that did so many things that we had never seen before. Attention to detail was and still is amazing.
PlayStation didn't have enough RAM to hold the whole stage. The only reason Saturn could hold the whole stage is because it requires the 1MB RAM expansion. The reason it couldn't "hide" the loading is because the CD drive isn't fast enough to stream all the texture data. On the PS1 sprites are actually 2 polygons with the sprite as a texture. PS1 only had 1MB of VRAM and that holds all the textures, colors and all other graphical data. Games that hid the loading did stuff like the loading corridors in Castlevania, which wouldn't be similar to the arcade version if you had to walk for 10 seconds in an empty corridor before every boss and mini boss battle.
@@Medachod no. The Dreamcast was similar to the PS1 in 2D rendering. Every home console released after the PS1 does 2D the way the PlayStation does it. The N64, DC, Xbox, etc. There is no more 2D rendering in the traditional sense unless it's all done thru the CPU with software rendering. Handhelds still kept the traditional sprites with the GBA and the DS but the PSP, Vita and 3DS did it the PlayStation way.
Way less action on the PS1,like on the first boss, just not bullet-hell like , no blue fire power. No animation in the water , either. Takes too long to load. Saturn version is by far the better version.
Saturn looks the slightest bit better with more frames of animation and some sprites look better but the PS1 seems to have less slowdown which I prefer. I'd have to play the PS1 version myself again though to know for sure.
The PS1 version is very solid where it counts, it plays very well, it's not 'slugish' (pun intended). The issues like the 2 second pauses at safe areas are pretty nit picky.
RAM cart wouldn't even help with slow down. The reason the game requires the RAM cart is so it doesn't need to load during the middle of stages and cut frames of animation like the PS1 version. The slow down is due to the CPUs on the Saturn not being able to calculate all that information or mostly likely SNK only using one of the SH-2 CPUs on the Saturn rather both of them. Slow down in 2D games of that era were due to the CPU, which is why alot SNES games had slow down because the CPU was slow. If it's due to the GPU, you'll see alot flickering like on NES games. If it's missing frames of animation than it's due to RAM or small cartridge space.
The water transparency and ripple effect on the Saturn version looks spectacular. On PS1 the water just looks like static image flickering on and off (which tend to hurt the eyes) but on Saturn the water looks like they are actually flowing. This is one of those game where if it had an N64 port it would had easily trump both since the N64 use cartridge similar to the NeoGeo MVS and AES.
Nintendo cartidges werent good at holding enough data to be able to trump anything, great at 3-d graphics, but really bad at being able to store those graphics and zero fmv cut scenes.
Always pissed that Sony bought out the franchise so the Saturn couldn't get ports of 2, 3 and X. Imagine those with the RAM expansion. Would've been one-to-one.
Sony never bought out the franchise. SNK decided not to port those games to the Saturn. Metal Slug 3, 4 & 5 were all released on the Xbox. 2/X was a PlayStation exclusive because the Saturn was dead by 2001, when the PlayStation port was released.
Sony certainly didn't buy it out. They were busy trying to block 2D titles from being released at all. Obviously, that wasn't gonna fly with huge publishers 😄
@@SmSimon6978 Opa... Não aguentou ver a verdade do video ai teve que mudar de assunto? Vai la fala que a versão do PS é melhor? Vai chorar em quase todos comentarios em que dizem que a versão do saturno é melhor tbm? To esperando pra ver seu choro nos outros comentarios ok.. E olha tem MUITOS kkkkkk
@@Devilhelll quando é ao contrário como no caso do doom, sempre arrumam uma desculpa. Mas vai tentar explicar isso pra virgem fanboy furry incel da sega.
Strange. The frame rate is better for Saturn, but the colors are just a little more vibrant for Sony. However, that DATA NOW LOADING thing is an absolute game killer (pun intended).
Saturn avoids the mid-level loads due to its 1MB RAM cart. Metal Slug is just an animation heavy game that doesn’t fit into the standard 2MB of both consoles.
Los efectos en la saturn son más vivos. La ps se ve como si fuese flickering o parpadeo. Por ejemplo el agua en saturn se ve preciosista mucho detalle en el movimiento. Lastima que a veces baje un poco los fps, no sé si le falta el cartucho de ampliación de memoria. Pero punto para saturn!
I've not played it, but I hear that the slowdown in the Saturn port is rather representative of the original arcade version. That suggests it was ported over with very little optimisation. I've also heard that if the RAM cart isn't seated just right, it can make the slowdown worse. Still, having a RAM cart at all gives the Saturn a distinct advantage over the PlayStation here, but not having the access speed of the AES nor the sheer size of the Neo Geo CD's RAM would prevent a perfect conversion.
@@stephandolbyme either - I wish they made games that used the 1MB ram cart tap into some or all of the 4MB cart when it came out so you didn't need both (if you aren't using a 4-in1 pseudokai or something)
@@quinnhofmann5399 but that's how it was. I only had the 4mb cartridge and played all these games with it. All of SNK ports that required it only used 1mn and that's why they're not as good ports as Capcom's, which used all of it.
@@bizarroeddie1 actually, some games work with both, some only with 1MB (the graphics get corrupted for a lot of SNK fighters that use the 1MB cart) and then there are some that require a game specific expansion cart (KOF 95 and an Ultraman game - those were like 1.3MB and 3MB IIRC, but don't hold me to the size of those 2 carts). That's why there's a switch with positions for 1MB, no, or 4MB RAM on those 3/4-in-1 carts. My copy of Metal Slug only boots if I have it switched to the 1MB position even though there is technically more available inside, it is just hidden. Maybe it was my copy or the unlicensed the 4-in-1 cart I used it with but I remember when I got it and was looking at a compatibility list thinking "weird that more RAM than necessary caused issues with certain games that used 1MB expansion. That's my biggest gripe - but what I was really thinking of was if the 1MB supported games from before the 4MB cart came around could tap into even more memory to increase performance when needed (just need to make sure to cap the speed so it doesn't end up running super rapidly like if it was beinf FFWD)
The Playstation version runs a little smoother, aside from the loading freezes, but it could be due to the missing frames of animaton lightening the load.
The Saturn seems a bit better on background animations and transitions. The PS1 is like the two same frames running over and over. On the other hand, the Saturn has unexplainable drops of frame rate even to the point of lag. It is inexcusable for a console intended for this kind of 2D games. My verdict: 299 dollars vs 399 dollars. The price difference seems ridiculous when it comes to game experience
Good comparison. I see more slowdown in the Saturn version to be honest. Thought it's weird how the water effects run at a million frames per second on the PlayStation. That's the thing, despite being a "2D powerhouse", the Saturn was barely any better than the PlayStation at 2D games, while the PlayStation was clearly more powerful at 3D games.
look for really intensive 2D games, not old Neo Geo stuff, that's where you'll see the real difference between these two systems running 2D games. Silhouete Mirage for example packed with zooming and scaling, where it was even needed to tone down some bosses on PS1.
The playstation version is missing so many frames of animation. You can see it in the water. Its not running faster, it rendering fewer frames so it seems faster. You can really see it in the waterfall in the background.
@@mrnicktoyou 2D games aren't really about the looks as its the same main assets running on both systems. by looks only you can say PS1's KOF games are identical to Neo Geo's and everyone that played them know they suck with a ton of frames missing. Who could avoid them back then, played it elsewhere.
Agree what your saying about the 2D thing. There were plenty of very good, exclusive PS1 2D games. 2D games and 2D ability are two different things. It is ironic that Saturn’s advantages (which it does) in 2D were almost exclusively used to help build 3D worlds (VDP2). As for 3D abilities of Saturn. The gap is less than what people think- mostly because of the huge variety of PS1 games that showed progression of 3D. Remember Saturn 3D development was all but a stand still less than 50% of its generation. Look to the homebrew community for a sharp progression in Saturn 3D.
Slowdown was present at those spots in the arcade. SNK didn't figure out how to fix that until X reworked 2, but things went downhill after 3 anyway. I'd still play 1 over 4 and 5 - and don't get me started on the Playmore release on Atomiswave. The part that shows the 2D superiority to the PS1 are the water parts - especially the waterfall section. Ironically, I noticed PS1 didn't use transparencies on the waterfalls you walk under since it was one of the few 2D advantages it has over the Saturn. Look at the shotgun blast and the way the debris flies off of exploding tanks, etc. and you can see how many corners the PS1 version actually cuts
@@m.jordan5181 let me rephrase - both the MVS and AES versions (I have an MVSX and you can choose both versions and it's present in both). By arcade, I figured we all knew it meant the Neo Geo MVS which was consolized using the same hardware and the cartridges were nearly identical to the ones that go into the MVS cabinet, other than having vs, training, other modes than arcade mode and an options menu instead of dip switches for settings - so close that the Neo Geo memory card was meant to be used with both.
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Having played the AES version of the game its important to know even that has slowdown.
Yes. That is true.
It's also present (to a more significant degree) in Metal Slug 2.
@@m.jordan5181 MS2 is an ungodly mess we dare not speak of.
^referring to the original pcb version
These slowdowns are result of poor programming in the case of Saturn
Yeah but MVS is a project futon 1987 while Saturn is a project from 1993
Most if not all PS1 neo-geo ports cut a lot of frames up until KOF99. If you see it faster that's because it skipped some frames. Even the sound qualities are not on par to the neogeo (not for this release tho). As for the slowdowns i heard it was heredity from the neogeo version. Meaning the original metal slug 1 on neogeo lagged on certain scenes (mostly building/huge explosions).
Less noticeable slowdowns on real NeoGeo
Can you tell me what gamepad viewer you used for SEGA Saturn?
Between these 2 platform it is a toss up, there is slow down in both(slightly more on the Saturn), there is more frequent loading on the Playstation, and there seems to be minor detail differences in some of the graphics/backgrounds, as well as a slight difference in aspect ratio.
I would like to see a comparison between these and the Neo Geo original.
Seems to be a lot of ‘Saturn 2D stalwarts’ making comments without watching this video. The slight animation cuts and mini loading is down to RAM. Otherwise 2D game championing on Saturn is overused and tiresome. Much more 2D variety exists on PS1.
Saturn 2D video capability is largely and ironically seen in its 3D games. But that’s another story…
Even Sega Lord X called the Saturn version out as super janky.
What am I missing here? The ps1 version looks terrible with the missing animation frames and in-game loading times (which should not have passed quality checks imo haha)
I love the ps1 but it can't do heavy 2D graphics.
Regarding the saturn version. This could have benefited from the 4mb cartridge like the kof and capcom fighters no?
@@jonnyblanka Ps1 had KOF98-99, Last Blade and Metal Slug X from Neogeo side and Capcom vs SNK, Marvel vs Capcom and Jojos Bizzare Adventure from Capcom side that are excellent ports and Saturn never got.
Also Ps1 has a big variety in 2d games that like with the Saturn 2d games, they stayed in Japan.
So telling Ps1 cant do heavy 2d graphics is absolutely a lie.
4mb cart in Saturn was specific on Capcom games not on Snk ones and the only game that excelled on that was the Xmen vs SF (and Marvel vs SF), all others offered just a few more frames of animation and better loading times agains Ps1 same games.
this is a Neo Geo game, there's nothing special here, it runs on low resolution and low color. But it has animation in buckets, that's the only reason the stock 32 bit systems could not run perfect versions of it.
X-men Children of Atom and MSH have reduced graphics on PS1, so, obviously, Saturn's fame on 2D is not because of its RAM expansions.
@@bizarroeddie1 don't get me wrong I LOVE the ps1 it's probably one of my favourite systems.. but if it's also good at 2D then WHY did it do X-Men and MSH so badly?
The Saturn wins as usual
La verdad drincast Seve mucho mejor qué PS1 y eso que yo nunca e tenenido una drincast pero si la PS1
First level water in PS1 is glitched/too fast. Weird mid-level loadings as well. Saturn is superior here.
More RAM is the key.
Saturn vence já que se aproxima mais com a versão original Arcade/Neo Geo!
A versão do Sega Saturn tem animações melhores, parece que tem uns quadros a mais de animação.
No Playstation de uns loading durante a fase...o que deixa muito estranho mesmo sendo bem curto.
I had the Saturn-version of MS1 and I also had MS3 and MS4 for the Neo Geo AES.
People always make you think the differences are huge and the PS1 would be so bad at 2D, but to be honest:
The PS1-verison looks totally fine for me and I would not have been disappointed if I had to play that one.
Gameplay-wise, I would have loved to see some kind of weapon-powerup-system, so you have the sensation of getting mighty and stronger (instead of just changing weapons constantly) and more differences between the characters (are there any differences at all?).
But I had tons of fun with these games, especially in 2-player-mode.
i have the sega satrun version.they only work with ram upgrade.not without.ps1 doesnt have the change for ram upgrade.ps1 version its okay.
Ps version is trash
No, the PS1 had way to much loading, almost all SNK NeoGeo ports are horrible in PS1
@@Marmite101 You're right about the loading. Same for Neo Geo CD.
I was only talking bout visuals here.
Cartridges had a big advantage in loading times indeed.
Saturn did what Playstation...[Data Now Loading!] tried.
With the 1MB RAM expansion. Which was required for this game.
While the PSX got an improved version of the sequel that runs beautifully without a 1MB expansion. VC can't show you the Saturn version of Metal Slug X though...because it doesn't exist.
Next compare Metal Slug X
@@kubratodason719 It would have to be Neo Geo vs PSX, because the Saturn didn't get that game.
@@SomeOrangeCatBecause Sega Saturn was a complete flop.
No resident evil 2 and 3, no kof 98 and 99, no mortal kombat 4, no tomb raider 2 and 3.
Sega missed an oppurtunity to release and market the Ram Expansion carts as Blast Paks. Then use the lock on tech from Sonic and Knuckles so you can stack em. All that would've been needed was a in your face ad blitz. Would it have help the Saturn in the long run? Probably not. Something talk about decades later.
Ps1 has 2 frames of animation for almost everything, water splashes, waterfalls, explosions, smoke. The shotgun looks terrible, looks more like a light gun.
Saturn is decent but i don't remember it being so slow.
The arcade version also suffers from slow down in places.
@@ulysses2162 Neo Geo CD and MVS behaves samely.
Saturn version runs similarly to NeoGeo home console hardware.
@@m.jordan5181similar but NeoGeo has slightly less slowdown. Tried playing a bullet hell without slowdown? 😂
La version de saturn tiene ventaja.. pero parece como que fue mal optimizada o realizada con pocas ganas ....es mi punto de vista
Hay detalles que saturn puede hacerlos sin esfuerzos y aqui veo que le cuestan mas de lo debido.
Excelete trabajo y saludos desde españa
The Best Version Sega Saturn
Here undoubtedly, but MVS is THE best really.
In PS1 they used to cut down some animation frames in order to reduce loading time. It's a compromise between reasonable loading times and fluid animation. Same thing happened to King of Fighters 97 on PS1
Horrible pausing start of bouts in Samurai Spirits 1&2 ruined those games also.
Even with the RAM cartridge, the Saturn version isn't *that* much better.
I have to agree.
@@MH-yp6wg It SHOULD be, but I just don't think the developer was up to the task.
I discovered recenrly rhe PS1 port of Metal Slug X and... they fixed most of the MS1 port! No more loadings during the gameplay, more animation frames (not as much as on Neo Geo but far more than on MS1), great gameolay, etc.
You really should do one day a Metal Slug X Neo Geo vs PS1 comparison. It rehabilitates the 2D capabilities of the PS1.
Isn't Metal Slug X a Metal Slug 2 "Plus" edition?
@@SnayperskayaIt is. Most of all X has far less slowdowns. They were almost unbearable in some parts of MS2. But X also has different color palettes, and a lot of tiny differences in level design.
@@Snayperskayayes, they simplified it to reduce slowdowns
na época pra mim e pra galera essas duas versões eram o arcade em casa, agora o pessoal fica querendo encontrar chifre na cabeça de cavalo !!!
Faz parte...igual hj em dia o pessoal querer jogos cada vez com gráficos mais "reais" inves de se divertir.
Os caras procuram defeitos principalmente no playstation e super nintendo.
No saturn e mega ficam passando pano.
@@SmSimon6978 É pq o ser humano sempre torce pro mais fraco, o ps1 estuprou o saturno, tinha jogos de tudo q é estilo a rodo, o saturno faliu rapidinho, não aguentou a pressão, ps1 o melhor vídeo game da história !!!
@@ricardonunes838amigo o Saturno era muito mais poderoso q o ps1 ....só foi mal administrado pela Sega.
Já o Super Nintendo perdia em velocidade de hardware para um vídeo game 2 anos mais novo.
Di nada, abraço!
@@davidamico1087 não era mais poderoso q o ps1 de jeito nenhum, só para jogos 2d, o ps1 tinha efeitos de transparência melhor q o saturno e a placa de vídeo do ps1 era bem melhor q o saturno e mesmo q isso q vc falou fosse verdade não importa, oq importa é oq saiu pra jogar e ps1 triturou o saturno, gran turismo, tekken, sou calibur, final fantasy, silent hill, residente 2 e 3, vários tomb raiders, need for speed vários, rapaz se eu ficar aqui colocando todos os jogos de ps1 aqui q esculachavam o saturno eu vou ficar 1 dia inteiro pra fazer isso, e até em jogos 2d eu prefiro o ps1 pq ele tinha the king 98 e 99 além de capcom vs snk e fatal fury dominated mind além de outros q não saíram para o saturno pq ele não aguentou a pressão e faliu, ps1 foi o melhor console da história e quanto ao mega nem preciso falar tb, levou uma surra do super nintendo, mas não foi uma surra tão grande igual o saturno levou, as game houses daqui do rio de janeiro só tinham super nintendo, até fliper colocavam super nintendo dentro, o processador do super nintendo tinha mais recursos q o do mega como o modem 7 por exemplo, mega não tem nenhum jogo com a qualidade de donkey kong e street fighter zero 2, yoshi sland e vários outros, joga arctraizer 2 do snes q vc vai babar com o som daquele jogo, além dos gráficos incríveis, fora muitos outros q davam um banho no mega como mortal kombat 2 além de vários outros !!!
Até joguei a versão do ps1 na epoca, mas nada se compara ao Neo Geo. A do PS1 tem muitos frames de animação cortados, até mesmo do cenário, o saturno mesmo as vezes em câmera lenta roda melhor, e a paleta de cores é levemente mais fria. O som do playstation é muito abafado tbm. Boa comparação. Quero ver mais comprações com jogos do neo geo, a Ferrari dos 16bits.
O mais engraçado é que boas maquinas como o ps1 e o saturn que sao 32bit, nao conseguem fazer igual ao neo geo que é 16bit
A memoria ram do NeoGeo faz toda diferença na época;
The RAM the NeoGeo MVS/AES (and Neo CD) had was a massive advantage.
Saturn - Mais quadros e sem loading nas fases = Slowdown
PS - Menos quadros e loading nas fases = Melhor performance
Qual vc. prefere?
No mais, que jogo lindo, tá loco!
T+
I "almost always" prefer the version that's closest to the Arcade original. It ultimately depends on certain variables though.
Context is always key.
Pra quem saiu do snes e mega , ps1 já era incrível.
@@SmSimon6978 Já não citando mais esse jogo, mas para quem saiu do mega e snes o 3DO já era algo absurdo.
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Looking at the detail of the waterfall in the first boss, it seems better to me in the Saturn version, and these data loading from the ps1 what is that?
Lack of RAM on PS1 is the loading issue.
The moral of the story here: If the developer isn't doing a good job, it doesn't matter if your hardware is better suited to that specific kind of game.
Você é Brasileiro, sem dúvidas, com esse "A moral da história aqui", kkkkkk... muito bom.
Na primeira cachoeira o saturn tem mais frames nas águas isso e visível.
Playstation doesn't do a proper waterfall effect in 2d.... It just flickers...
Poor colour cycling
Saturn needed a cartridgue to run just to offer a slighlty better experience than the not-so-2d-capable PS1.
This isn't the only time I've seen the Saturn fail to impress on a 2D game port.
The PS1 explosion animations etc. were not great, and I found the loading really detrimental when I owned it. Nicely drawn and animated classic original game, its beyond the capacity of both consoles without ram upgrades to replicate the single level loads required. Saturn had the RAM options which is good.
Saturn runs slower, has more animations, and has no loading times. PS is faster, has loadings and missing animations. Both lack some voice lines. Like "Mission 1 Start", "You are great!" and the "Mission Complete!". But having a great game like metal slug at home, is priceless.
on sega saturn,you need ram upgrade.without,they dont work.ps1 have no ram upgrade.
Playstation Wins!
Saturn is better than psx
Saturn don’t have loading as ps1
Todas versões de console e Arcade tem slowdown, mas é obvio que o Sega Saturn é mais próximo do Neo-Geo!
Ps1 is missing so many frames. Neo geo needs a new console. I would buy it if it had a exclusive metal slug that looked 2d sprite amazing
Metal slug x looks pretty good on ps1
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@@califaern3stoexcept for all the water effects (like 2 frames at 10000 FPS to mask the missing animations you can see in Saturn version; thought it was ironic that both used the dithering instead of transparencies for the ones you walk under since it the main thing people say PS1 beats out Saturn 2D graphics it was considered something the Saturn couldn't do (even though it could, as certain publishers did so in plenty games by using the VDP2 layers creatively). They could've used that as a point to them that compensates for all the missing animation frames, loading times mid level, and that ugly AF shotgun blast.
The only thing i can say PS1 has a slight edge over the Saturn version is the increased layers of ahd more pronounced parallax scrolling. Otherwise, the Saturn beats it out in even with the slowdown because thst was actually in the first 2 MVS/AES versions of the series - thus the existence of Metal Slug X, a reworked version of MS2 that ran as well as the improvements they learned to use from then on. Was always confused why X had the same levels as 2 until I played the first one. I have the MVSX arcade machine by Unico that comes w/ 1-5 and it still has the slowdown in both MVS and AES roms in the same spots in 1 and 2. Therefore, i can't really hold it against the Saturn. - especially if it used the 4MB RAM cart insread if the 1MB expansion, which I assume it would've because it likely existed by then and why not use as much extra RAM available. They should've made all 1MB cart compatible games the option of using the 4MB cart so you could improve performance even more if you had acess to more memory (plus would only need the 4MB cart if you aren't using one of the 3/4-in-1 pseudokai carts or similar). I don't know how much they could improve performance in this port though considering it was technically faithful to how the arcade version played.
@@quinnhofmann5399 Metal Slug was April 4th, 1997. The 4MB RAM cart was released November 27th, 1997. So no. There was no way they could have had forward compatibility unless Sega told them they were releasing a 4MB cart. Which doesn't seem to be the case because it's Sega in the 90s. Sega didn't bother to tell SNK about the RAM expansion cart early, that's why King of Fighters 95 had that ROM cart, that can only be used with KOF95.
@@BurritoKingdom I was thinking it'd be cool if the 4MB cart worked in a way were games that used the 1MB cart and it could use 25% of the how 4MB extra ram plugged into the console (some can) as some only work when 1MB is inserted even though it doesn't need the other 3MB available probably via some check that looks at the total RAM value and if it's 1MB more than the amount the base console contains it gives it the OK to boot. There is a reason why those 3/4-in-1 carts to have a switch with positions for 1MB, 4MB, or none because Metal Slug only boots when at the 1MB position even when there is more than enough than what it needs... then as more of a pipe dream wish, that the way the software and hardware interface together allowed for the equivalent of overclocking. Obviously devs wouldn't know how to preemptively code for something in the future they don't know exits, but the explanation you gave to you show how stupid my thought was is exactly what PC gamers do and been doing for decades to get better performance settings for a game that's struggling to smoothly run at settings they consider playable: installing more RAM or GPU/CPU processing power. It isn't that far off to think that games that can optionally utilize more memory than the base amount in the console that it wouldn't need exactly 1MB inserted but not use some of the memory of a cart with even more, and if they're making a game that utilized the RAM expansion slot it isn't that crazy to think the devs could forese a bigger one is possible and code it in a way that could use more if available but run with what the current max is. I mean, it was marketed as having a slot for expanding memory and I'm sure devs were privy to a lot more inside info than the public. Why you gotta shoot down a totally theoretical idea and question my reasoning skills, yo?
28:10 ¿Porqué en PlayStation es más rápido que SEGA Saturn?... Tengo entendido que SEGA Saturn tiene dos procesadores independientes, que programados correctamente hace que la consola (Saturn) tenga ciertas ventajas por sobre PlayStation; Además que popularmente se sabe que la SEGA Saturn en juegos 2D le gana a la PlayStation.
PS fails hard here... 🤣
*muita gente falando do Slowdown do Saturn que tem e tem a rodo , mas esquece que do NEO GEO é um simulador de SLOWODOWN tudo da slowdown e se jogar de 2 players o proprio metal slung 2 que rida a 5 fps no neo geo*
os dois primeiros metal slug tinha problema de slowdown, isso ate mesmo no proprio arcade por que era muita coisa na tela, no X ainda existia slowdown, so que era bem menos perceptivel
@@andreand12exactly, PS1 is a warping polygon simulator
Yes like PS1 is a warping polygon simulator 😂
I love both controller PS1 & SAT
For me Saturn controller better for all fighting games and shooting games
I definitely go with Saturn
Pela limitações do ps1 tem esse jogo ta incrível óbvio que o Saturn ganha porque que teve um impurranzinho da expansão de memória como sempre.
Compared to SEGASATURN, Playstation suffers from a lack of memory.
This is a difference of only 1MB.
Saturn gana por lejos,mas animaciones,y sin tiempos de cargas dentro del nivel,se ve casi igual al arcade neo geo
Saturn wins
Both great conversions. Saturn runs slower and seems to have more slowdown. PS1 has those annoying pauses for loading. I am surprised that losing could not have been hidden .
Such an imaginative game that did so many things that we had never seen before. Attention to detail was and still is amazing.
I still think it's the best looking sprite-based 2D game I've ever seen.
@@Medachod I agree
PlayStation didn't have enough RAM to hold the whole stage. The only reason Saturn could hold the whole stage is because it requires the 1MB RAM expansion.
The reason it couldn't "hide" the loading is because the CD drive isn't fast enough to stream all the texture data. On the PS1 sprites are actually 2 polygons with the sprite as a texture. PS1 only had 1MB of VRAM and that holds all the textures, colors and all other graphical data.
Games that hid the loading did stuff like the loading corridors in Castlevania, which wouldn't be similar to the arcade version if you had to walk for 10 seconds in an empty corridor before every boss and mini boss battle.
@@BurritoKingdom Those facts are pretty well known. Even the Dreamcast still had a separate renderer for 2D. Pretty cool.
@@Medachod no. The Dreamcast was similar to the PS1 in 2D rendering. Every home console released after the PS1 does 2D the way the PlayStation does it. The N64, DC, Xbox, etc. There is no more 2D rendering in the traditional sense unless it's all done thru the CPU with software rendering. Handhelds still kept the traditional sprites with the GBA and the DS but the PSP, Vita and 3DS did it the PlayStation way.
Way less action on the PS1,like on the first boss, just not bullet-hell like , no blue fire power. No animation in the water , either. Takes too long to load. Saturn version is by far the better version.
ps1 ( now loading data) hahahahah 01:58
The quality of the sound on the PSX version is lower. The water is poorly animated on Sony.
Hon... that is clearly not a Saturn controller. A lot of your videos have that in the thumbnail. It is obviously not correct.
Saturn looks the slightest bit better with more frames of animation and some sprites look better but the PS1 seems to have less slowdown which I prefer. I'd have to play the PS1 version myself again though to know for sure.
It's not good, waaaay to much Loooooooaddddiiiiing...
I want to love this game but the slowdown is unbearable. Yes I know the AES also had slowdown.
Same PS2. PSP and Wii Port Version of Metal Slug Anthology
The PS1 version is very solid where it counts, it plays very well, it's not 'slugish' (pun intended). The issues like the 2 second pauses at safe areas are pretty nit picky.
It’s missing tons of animations
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It looks like the Saturn has a ton of slow down😢I wonder if this is being played with the ram cartridge?
The game wouldn't even boot up without the expansion cart.
RAM cart wouldn't even help with slow down. The reason the game requires the RAM cart is so it doesn't need to load during the middle of stages and cut frames of animation like the PS1 version.
The slow down is due to the CPUs on the Saturn not being able to calculate all that information or mostly likely SNK only using one of the SH-2 CPUs on the Saturn rather both of them. Slow down in 2D games of that era were due to the CPU, which is why alot SNES games had slow down because the CPU was slow. If it's due to the GPU, you'll see alot flickering like on NES games. If it's missing frames of animation than it's due to RAM or small cartridge space.
It would have if SNK had programmed it to... @parappatherapper4141
I‘m pretty sure the slowdowns are VDP1 related. It is probably due to a RAM read and framebuffer write overheat.
The water transparency and ripple effect on the Saturn version looks spectacular. On PS1 the water just looks like static image flickering on and off (which tend to hurt the eyes) but on Saturn the water looks like they are actually flowing. This is one of those game where if it had an N64 port it would had easily trump both since the N64 use cartridge similar to the NeoGeo MVS and AES.
Nintendo cartidges werent good at holding enough data to be able to trump anything, great at 3-d graphics, but really bad at being able to store those graphics and zero fmv cut scenes.
Uuuuuhh.... Neo Geo cartridges are not built the same way as N64 cartridges.
incrível
Saturn good!
Always pissed that Sony bought out the franchise so the Saturn couldn't get ports of 2, 3 and X. Imagine those with the RAM expansion. Would've been one-to-one.
Sony never bought out the franchise. SNK decided not to port those games to the Saturn. Metal Slug 3, 4 & 5 were all released on the Xbox. 2/X was a PlayStation exclusive because the Saturn was dead by 2001, when the PlayStation port was released.
@@BurritoKingdom Wrong choice of words, yeah. More like exclusivity rights. Thanks for the correction.
@@BurritoKingdom Oh no wait, I see. It was actually because the lifespan of the Saturn was over. I mixed up a different franchise in my head.
Sony certainly didn't buy it out. They were busy trying to block 2D titles from being released at all. Obviously, that wasn't gonna fly with huge publishers 😄
@@m.jordan5181 The other guy already answered.
Tem que mudar esse esquema do som, nem todo mundo tem fone, teria que ser de outra forma.
Sega wins como sempre!!!
Sim, já temos o dreamcast 4....
Ah não!.. a sony fez a sega sair do ramo de consoles.
@@SmSimon6978 Opa... Não aguentou ver a verdade do video ai teve que mudar de assunto? Vai la fala que a versão do PS é melhor? Vai chorar em quase todos comentarios em que dizem que a versão do saturno é melhor tbm? To esperando pra ver seu choro nos outros comentarios ok.. E olha tem MUITOS kkkkkk
@@Devilhelll quando é ao contrário como no caso do doom, sempre arrumam uma desculpa.
Mas vai tentar explicar isso pra virgem fanboy furry incel da sega.
@@SmSimon6978 vixi foi buscar um joguinho... vai la jogar seus xmen vs street fiter capa e com loading que nem da p trocar personagens kkkkk
@@Devilhelll Jogo versão arcade já, muito superior.
Já vi que é cabaço adolescente fracote.
mt bom o video, como vc coloca esse overlay dos controles responsivos na tela?
Strange. The frame rate is better for Saturn, but the colors are just a little more vibrant for Sony. However, that DATA NOW LOADING thing is an absolute game killer (pun intended).
Both are good but anything saturn always better usually.
In 2D... Yes. 3D nope.
Yeah I agree here. They are real close and maybe the slight loads on ps cause it to loose a point
@@twlimoonnot .castlevania son bedt playtation in 2d 😅😅
@@miriamalmeida6687Castlevania SotN is Simulated 2D, the game is 3D
Saturn avoids the mid-level loads due to its 1MB RAM cart. Metal Slug is just an animation heavy game that doesn’t fit into the standard 2MB of both consoles.
Los efectos en la saturn son más vivos. La ps se ve como si fuese flickering o parpadeo. Por ejemplo el agua en saturn se ve preciosista mucho detalle en el movimiento. Lastima que a veces baje un poco los fps, no sé si le falta el cartucho de ampliación de memoria. Pero punto para saturn!
Ps1 looks slightly smoother to me when it gets going, Saturn has better colours... and no loading times!!!!!!
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Pathetic PS1 port.
os frames da cachoeira deus me livre
I think we all knew how this one was going to go.
Would be curious if the Saturn didn’t have the benefit of the required 1MB RAM cart for this game.
Saturn Wins
i knew i wasnt crazy and i played MS1 on the PS1 everyone kept telling me there was only MSX on PS1
Sega saturn win the battle.
Looks same to me
Tem tanto gringo aqui kkk
Sega saturn
*SEGA SATURN hands down!* ⭐️ ❤️ ⭐️ ❤️ ⭐️
Saturn was a beast!!
Both are not good.
Я один не вижу разницы?))))))))))
Saudosos PS e SS 👏👏
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I've not played it, but I hear that the slowdown in the Saturn port is rather representative of the original arcade version. That suggests it was ported over with very little optimisation. I've also heard that if the RAM cart isn't seated just right, it can make the slowdown worse. Still, having a RAM cart at all gives the Saturn a distinct advantage over the PlayStation here, but not having the access speed of the AES nor the sheer size of the Neo Geo CD's RAM would prevent a perfect conversion.
It only used 1mb of RAM expansion as opposed to 4mb of expansion like the Capcom games did.
@@Mitjitsu I don't believe the 4MB cart had been launched at that point either.
@@stephandolbyme either - I wish they made games that used the 1MB ram cart tap into some or all of the 4MB cart when it came out so you didn't need both (if you aren't using a 4-in1 pseudokai or something)
@@quinnhofmann5399 but that's how it was. I only had the 4mb cartridge and played all these games with it.
All of SNK ports that required it only used 1mn and that's why they're not as good ports as Capcom's, which used all of it.
@@bizarroeddie1 actually, some games work with both, some only with 1MB (the graphics get corrupted for a lot of SNK fighters that use the 1MB cart) and then there are some that require a game specific expansion cart (KOF 95 and an Ultraman game - those were like 1.3MB and 3MB IIRC, but don't hold me to the size of those 2 carts). That's why there's a switch with positions for 1MB, no, or 4MB RAM on those 3/4-in-1 carts. My copy of Metal Slug only boots if I have it switched to the 1MB position even though there is technically more available inside, it is just hidden. Maybe it was my copy or the unlicensed the 4-in-1 cart I used it with but I remember when I got it and was looking at a compatibility list thinking "weird that more RAM than necessary caused issues with certain games that used 1MB expansion. That's my biggest gripe - but what I was really thinking of was if the 1MB supported games from before the 4MB cart came around could tap into even more memory to increase performance when needed (just need to make sure to cap the speed so it doesn't end up running super rapidly like if it was beinf FFWD)
The Playstation version runs a little smoother, aside from the loading freezes, but it could be due to the missing frames of animaton lightening the load.
It's definitely due to the frames that were cut.
More arcade
Excelente
God I freaking love metal slug
Arcade>>>>>>>>>todas las versiones
Arcade>>>>>>>>>all versions
Sega Saturn Wins 😎💪
incel wins
Both the same but the Saturn is way better .
Este port de Saturn era o arcade em casa
Winner SEGA SATURN! 🏆
The Saturn seems a bit better on background animations and transitions. The PS1 is like the two same frames running over and over. On the other hand, the Saturn has unexplainable drops of frame rate even to the point of lag. It is inexcusable for a console intended for this kind of 2D games. My verdict: 299 dollars vs 399 dollars. The price difference seems ridiculous when it comes to game experience
SEGA SATURN WON
nope , that arse-slow version doenst won really .
VIRGIN WON
Not even a comparison.Saturn destroys ps1 port.
😮😮😮😮😮😮😮
Both version suffers missing frames on metal slug ride . In conclusion, they both suck
Good comparison. I see more slowdown in the Saturn version to be honest. Thought it's weird how the water effects run at a million frames per second on the PlayStation.
That's the thing, despite being a "2D powerhouse", the Saturn was barely any better than the PlayStation at 2D games, while the PlayStation was clearly more powerful at 3D games.
look for really intensive 2D games, not old Neo Geo stuff, that's where you'll see the real difference between these two systems running 2D games.
Silhouete Mirage for example packed with zooming and scaling, where it was even needed to tone down some bosses on PS1.
The playstation version is missing so many frames of animation. You can see it in the water. Its not running faster, it rendering fewer frames so it seems faster. You can really see it in the waterfall in the background.
@@Marchand12 yeah, that would make sense why it has less slow down too I guess. But still, they look and run almost exactly the same.
@@mrnicktoyou 2D games aren't really about the looks as its the same main assets running on both systems.
by looks only you can say PS1's KOF games are identical to Neo Geo's and everyone that played them know they suck with a ton of frames missing. Who could avoid them back then, played it elsewhere.
Agree what your saying about the 2D thing. There were plenty of very good, exclusive PS1 2D games.
2D games and 2D ability are two different things. It is ironic that Saturn’s advantages (which it does) in 2D were almost exclusively used to help build 3D worlds (VDP2).
As for 3D abilities of Saturn. The gap is less than what people think- mostly because of the huge variety of PS1 games that showed progression of 3D. Remember Saturn 3D development was all but a stand still less than 50% of its generation. Look to the homebrew community for a sharp progression in Saturn 3D.
Os loadings do ps1 são de matar.sega saturn wins.
I should prefer saturn version, it looks impressive than ps1 does! 1 thing that I don't like is the performance issues! but still impressive
Thx for the Videos! But, ok the PS Controller are ugly as hell, but bro, why you put not the master piece of SEGA's Controller in your video? ;)
Saturn sucks even with a ram expansion cart!
The Neo Geo is the best version !!
I was always disappointed to Saturn 2D games with so much slowdown. It was supposed to be a 2D powerhouse.
It's all in how the developer uses the hardware.
Slowdown was present at those spots in the arcade.
SNK didn't figure out how to fix that until X reworked 2, but things went downhill after 3 anyway. I'd still play 1 over 4 and 5 - and don't get me started on the Playmore release on Atomiswave.
The part that shows the 2D superiority to the PS1 are the water parts - especially the waterfall section. Ironically, I noticed PS1 didn't use transparencies on the waterfalls you walk under since it was one of the few 2D advantages it has over the Saturn. Look at the shotgun blast and the way the debris flies off of exploding tanks, etc. and you can see how many corners the PS1 version actually cuts
If the arcade version has slow downs the console versions will probably have too. They are running on similar code and usually inferior hardware.
Cite the NeoGeo hardware first, as it is the source.
@@m.jordan5181 let me rephrase - both the MVS and AES versions (I have an MVSX and you can choose both versions and it's present in both). By arcade, I figured we all knew it meant the Neo Geo MVS which was consolized using the same hardware and the cartridges were nearly identical to the ones that go into the MVS cabinet, other than having vs, training, other modes than arcade mode and an options menu instead of dip switches for settings - so close that the Neo Geo memory card was meant to be used with both.