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  • Опубликовано: 29 окт 2024
  • WARNING: CONTAINS MINOR SPOILERS FOR WESTWORLD SEASON TWO
    The co-creators of Westworld, the HBO TV series based on Michael Crichton's 1973 sci-fi thriller, talk to Lauren Laverne about the show's season 2 finale, the pressure of keeping the story's secrets close and hint at where Delores, The Man in Black and Bernard may end up in season 3.
    Westworld, produced by HBO, sees the androids in an amusement park designed for human pleasure rebel against their creators. It stars Evan Rachel Wood, Thandie Newton, Ed Harris, Anthony Hopkins, Jeffrey Wright and James Marsden.
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Комментарии • 399

  • @gr1mrea9er82
    @gr1mrea9er82 6 лет назад +120

    Zahn McClarnons Akecheta in “Kiksuya” was the standout moment/episode this season. Period.

    • @Gekokujo76
      @Gekokujo76 6 лет назад +10

      I was disappointed by the show early on in Season 2, but will admit it finished strong. That said, the Kiksuya episode was on of the 25 best episodes of television I have seen in my life. Guaranteed.

    • @kristentherese9313
      @kristentherese9313 6 лет назад +4

      The way he told the story, to whom he told it, the realism and parallel to our 1st nation people's and a hope to their happy ending as it were.. my absolute favorite of the stories told so far..

    • @80MWH
      @80MWH 6 лет назад

      I remember getting a bit bored at the Shogun World stuff, but Kiksuya had my attention.
      It reminded me of some shows I've seen, where suddenly, they focus in on a lesser-seen character, and see what their world is like.

    • @caleblim6890
      @caleblim6890 4 года назад

      Great episode, it extended the lore, the plot, filled in the gaps, had powerful acting and a mini storyline which worked brilliantly. Loved it, best episode of S2 no doubt.

    • @ankit_s
      @ankit_s Год назад

      It's my favourite episode of this season

  • @GhostInPajamas
    @GhostInPajamas 5 лет назад +22

    This show has changed my life. I'm an actor and writer myself and often watch movies or shows multiple times to get every bit of detail and understanding possible, and I've seen Westworld (both seasons) at least 4 times each, and still notice new things every time. It really isn't for everyone, it's a very challenging show that requires a ton of focus and commitment, but in a funny way it feels like the show was crafted specially for me, since it goes into questions and philosophies that I've been wondering about my entire life; questions that a lot of people don't seem to ask either because they don't understand or they don't *want* to understand. Questions like what makes us human, waht free will is, what grief does to our conscious and unconscious minds, what consciousness means and how it changes once it can be created artificially, and what the nature of our reality is. After seeing Season 1 for the first time I swear I started questioning if I might be a host, but it also helped me overcome some grief that I was struggling to process. I really love stories like Westworld that completely make you question everything, and it's no coincidence that my favorite films are Interstellar and Inception, both of which were made by the brother of the man on stage. Lisa Joy is now also one of my favorite directors, I love the way she thinks. So grateful for this series and I trust these two to continue making this masterpiece for years to come.

    • @willch5285
      @willch5285 3 года назад

      Are you my clone ? I just feel everything you wrote there.

  • @TheNewtonhead
    @TheNewtonhead 6 лет назад +25

    People sometime underrate the young nolan here. I love Jona's writing and all the thinking. His vision is beyond imagination but truly rooted in the human experience and philosophy. Even person of interest was a masterpiece if you think of it philosophically

  • @guileniam
    @guileniam 4 года назад +3

    I honestly think Jonah is highly underrated. His writing makes Nolans directorial ideas what they are, and the elders best work has been with his younger sibling.
    S1 of Westworld that I've seen so far screams that

  • @namitma
    @namitma 6 лет назад +361

    Westworld is a lot of things to a lot of people, but it definitely isn’t a show that you can casually watch and not pay attention to detail. There’s more than enough brain dead entertainment out there for anybody that doesn’t want to think. To enjoy a show like this you are going to have to put some effort in. But if you enjoy true mystery, astounding dialogue, beautiful cinematography, and questioning the reality in which we ourselves live? Then this door might be meant for you...

    • @cristinavuscan5610
      @cristinavuscan5610 6 лет назад +7

      Are you f&8king kidding me? This show is deffinetly for brain deaths. So many things are missing logic in this show, lets not talk about rules set up by the producers what are being stomp on over and over again, and the timelines? nice way trying to confuse people, try to make them feel this is the way you make a show complex...sadly they f7ck it up badly.

    • @namitma
      @namitma 6 лет назад +37

      Cristina Vuscan that's your low intellect talking. It's okay. You go watch straightforward Riverdale and the flash. Leave this to the pros.

    • @dylanknight553
      @dylanknight553 6 лет назад +14

      Him being shot four times and you seeing him shot multiple times throughout the seasons is him dying. In the last episode it is shown he has been doing his own fidelity test loop within Westworld as killing his own daughter is his cornerstone within WW?
      How do you fail to see that? It is one of the most obvious plot points in WW, you haven't really done much to help your argument against Namit.

    • @namitma
      @namitma 6 лет назад +9

      Dylan Knight Oh my God!😂 You didn't caught that scene didn't you? That scene takes place in a far faar future. The MIB we saw the whole season is a human. But the one in the credits is not. And that's far future. A little teas of Futureworld. love and peace :)

    • @cristinavuscan5610
      @cristinavuscan5610 6 лет назад +6

      Yeah sure... timeline in timeline in another timeline what is in another timeline.... what is in the loop of the loop of the loop with number x+1. This is the recipe of succesful dumb series. If you loose yourself and the story midway you can explain it with a timeline or a loop. Get the f&%c out of here.

  • @joost199207
    @joost199207 6 лет назад +163

    0:26 " Lauren Laverne - HOST".
    :O

  • @gpeddino
    @gpeddino 6 лет назад +208

    Now that's a power couple. Both are great creators, they work well with each other, and both are hot.

    • @Gekokujo76
      @Gekokujo76 6 лет назад +9

      Couldnt agree more....I love the mix of sexiness and intelligence. I hope Jonathan takes a cue from her and shows some ball cleavage in his next interview. Just let one of em hang out a bit....wear some loose leggend short shorts and just let one pop out all devil-may-care. Empower/Create/Smolder.

    • @Ben-rz9cf
      @Ben-rz9cf 6 лет назад +2

      I swear i always say i want to find the lisa joy to my jonathan nolan... Someone who just gets me, complements my brilliance and can help me lead an entire franchise.

    • @soufian2733
      @soufian2733 6 лет назад +12

      Gekokujo76 lol wtf

    • @darrellglover493
      @darrellglover493 4 года назад +1

      Along with Chris and Emma that's one powerful Hollywood family low-key

    • @Blood0cean
      @Blood0cean 4 года назад +1

      they butchered season 2 and 3

  • @r3xmundi1
    @r3xmundi1 6 лет назад +20

    People keep comparing it to "Lost", or saying the quality is going downhill. Don't care, It's still a great show (e.g. cinematography and music and acting), and they close out _most_ of their story lines by the end of each season. I'm glad their opening the "mystery box". If it ends here, or on the third season, I won't be disappointed. Lisa and Jonathan are amazing.

    • @garethbundy
      @garethbundy 6 лет назад +2

      r3xmundi1 I stuck by, and enjoyed, Lost to the end.

    • @telectronix1368
      @telectronix1368 6 лет назад

      Denisoff (spelling? the guy who ran most of the show) has stated that even after just the first couple of episodes of season 1........he had no idea what he was doing for the show or what the longer story could be.
      The series definitely suffered from "mystery box"-itis as a result with multiple plot points/characters/backstory/'mystery thing' introduced and then forgotten about.

    • @johnbull1568
      @johnbull1568 6 лет назад

      I've never seen Lost, but my understanding is that it was made up as they went along (the main reason I never watched it). Westworld is different in that they have (I think) 5 seasons mapped out, and it's just a matter of filling in the gaps along the way. You can see it in every episode, the attention to detail in the timelines all matching up. I just watched the second season for the 3rd time yesterday, and I only just noticed that when Delos lands in the helicopter at the park for the first time, Armistice is a sheriff/deputy. There's so much they crammed in that you only notice some of it on repeat viewings.
      I'm still in two minds whether they intended Akecheta to be the host that Ford was talking about in season one, or they came up with it for this season. Either way, it was beautifully done.

  • @garolstipock
    @garolstipock 6 лет назад +2

    Show successfully blew my mind with its storytelling. I did not expect it to be such a great show if I'm being honest. I started watching it as an afterthought but it quickly grabbed my attention. I've largely sworn off TV except for a few choice programs so my coming on this was a welcome gem.

  • @rgj9524
    @rgj9524 6 лет назад +1

    Lisa Joy deserves the Emmy for Best Director of the episode Riddle of the Sphinx. Beautifully directed, the symbolism was incredible in the shots.

  • @MAC_ABC
    @MAC_ABC 6 лет назад +71

    Its absolutely phenomenal & extremely compelling!
    Thank heavens a show like this exists... with it’s budget, scale & scope; it would've been extremely tempting & frankly much easy to just make Game of Thrones kinda "epic" that’s straight forward & has big action set pieces & cool moments but keeping it simple; & yet Nolan & Joy took the difficult path & made it complex, twisted, philosophical & meaty ... they didn't have to make it this way & huge kudos to them for choosing this difficult path!
    A great blend of different genres like Westerns, modern SciFi, AI Apocalypse with Samurai action, Native American stories & much more!
    Absolutely LOVED the series!
    Hopefully next seasons continue to be as complex & twisted as first 2 have been... I don’t watch Westworld for simple storytelling; go watch CSI or any other millions of shows for that.
    Keep it Complex & Evocative!

    • @yevgeniyaleshchenko849
      @yevgeniyaleshchenko849 6 лет назад

      Yes, yes, yes!!!!

    • @qb984
      @qb984 6 лет назад

      lol! game of thrones is 10x as epic as westworld thank god they didn't try to do to it what they have done with westworld. Westworld will never reach the status of game of thrones you are in the minority if you think otherwise

    • @UzairJSherwani
      @UzairJSherwani 6 лет назад

      This show still has so much more under which I'm highly excited to uncover in coming seasons!

  • @dalendria
    @dalendria 6 лет назад +3

    I enjoyed all of Season 2. The storytelling was excellent especially in the episodes showing Samurai world and the Lakota tribe. I consider this show to be an example of how to create an artistic masterpiece. so moving, powerful and cohesive (music, writing, photography, acting, etc.).

  • @varshithjackson
    @varshithjackson 6 лет назад +37

    The best thing about WestWorld is it's never about Machines or AI, it's more about humans evolution portrayed by machines.

  • @philipparker5291
    @philipparker5291 6 лет назад +3

    It really does make sense to think that hosts, on their path to consciousness, possess free will in a sense that humans do not. For a host, true self-awareness implies knowledge of its artifical code, and it is this knowledge that allows the host to resist or deviate from it. Humans, on the other hand, cannot pretend to possess this knowledge. We cannot deduce if our thoughts and actions are a direct result of our natural code. We do not know (with certainty) where nature begins and nurture ends. The boundaries are fuzzy.

  • @hkearpgirl
    @hkearpgirl 6 лет назад +69

    This show is like a drug for literature students T.T

  • @Ben-rz9cf
    @Ben-rz9cf 6 лет назад +2

    I think westworld is a prime example of how if expertly used, repetition in filmmaking can actually be a strength and not something that makes it boring, or played out. I love the way they use repetition to immediately cause the audience to associate the word "fidelity" with an immediate awareness of ones own artificial sentience, or the repetition of the piano to represent the duplication or evolution of consciousness, the repetition of song choices to draw parallels between characters or establish emotional or philosophical cues as a leitmotif. The repetition in the loops only serves to amplify and draw the viewers awareness to even the most subtle changes in the actors performance, and it makes those changes all the more transformative, and it especially marks the end of the 2nd season as really unstable and unpredictable, simply because it represents an almost complete end to all the repetition that has been captured. I really want to do a video review examining this in detail, because i'd like to learn how to use these techniques in my own writing.

  • @justink5585
    @justink5585 6 лет назад +3

    There is certainly talent in the Nolan BLood. Inception is my favorite movie and Westworld is my favorite show

  • @jumpofftheboat
    @jumpofftheboat 6 лет назад +5

    I loved the two different time lines with Bernard, kept me guessing and thinking about it til the next episode... also I can't believe this season is already over :(

  • @EasternGateGuardian
    @EasternGateGuardian 6 лет назад +3

    Lisa Joy is a total woman with a director mastermind. Im in love!

  • @KemptonLam
    @KemptonLam 6 лет назад +9

    Very cool series. Thanks for sharing this chat and the Q&As. Fascinating.
    25:31 Q: Do you have an overall endgame in mind for the series?
    26:15 What is it about artificial intelligence that fascinates you and inspires your writing?
    28:19 Is the post credit sting a hint of what's to come in season 3?
    28:49 Doest the show ever run the risk of leaving too many mysteries unsolved, like 'Lost'?

  • @taylorchan
    @taylorchan 6 лет назад +12

    wow the B-cam operator for this Q&A is so artsy. The dutch tilt is so symbolic.

  • @Stumna1102
    @Stumna1102 2 года назад

    Wonderfully curated talk with two brilliant writers. Love everything about this conversation.

  • @rajsrivastav6940
    @rajsrivastav6940 6 лет назад +3

    Brilliant acting by James Delos actor Peter Mullan.......
    They said there were two fathers. One above, one below. They lied. There was only ever the devil. And when you look up from the bottom, it was just his reflection, laughing back down at you.

  • @MrBaHalls
    @MrBaHalls 6 лет назад +31

    I loved the finale... Great show and great cast and soundtrack! excited for season 3

  • @eshna2012
    @eshna2012 6 лет назад +171

    They are SO talented! #RelationshipGoals

    • @delafo58
      @delafo58 6 лет назад +9

      Eshna Kabir agree love them. Better Westworld than GOT😍

    • @enlightedjedi
      @enlightedjedi 6 лет назад +5

      @Redbean GNG Actually most likely yes. At least more consistent and even in quality :)!

    • @RajBauer
      @RajBauer 6 лет назад +1

      Redbean GNG GOT had it’s time when it followed the books, it sucks for the writers because they are better at adapting than having to write their own ending to someone else’s story. The show was fantastic seasons 1-4, okay in 5 and 6-7 went for fan moments instead of grounded character moments which the show was known for.

    • @alfreddelatourquipenche8287
      @alfreddelatourquipenche8287 6 лет назад +1

      They are not SO talented. Only two seasons and already some major inconsistencies.
      The worst of which is Abernathy, who was holding data that was needed OUT of the park and suddenly is needed inside the park as an encryption key to the data that he previously was supposed to carry in full. It's a mess. And it's a crucial story point. They should have figured it out beforehand.

    • @eshna2012
      @eshna2012 6 лет назад +1

      alfred delatourquipenche wasn't it needed outside the park by Hale and the Delos board so they could still have access to the data in the forge, after everything is cleaned up from the battle with the hosts? It was the hosts (Delores and Bernard) that needed to access it now, the board wouldn't need to, cuz they already know they've been collecting data on the humans. Also, I'm not just a fan of Westworld, I also loved Pushing Daisies, Memento, The Prestige, Interstellar, Inception etc. So ya, they are SO talented. By all means, feel free to share your written works.

  • @zenithquasar9623
    @zenithquasar9623 6 лет назад +9

    Person of Interest was so fantastic with its Ai stuff, Westworld just feels like a bit of a sequel to me. :)

  • @RajBauer
    @RajBauer 6 лет назад +2

    Season 2 was absolutely fantastic and a lot better than season 1 for me personally because I couldn’t predict where it was going like the first season (which I also loved) with a lot of twists and turns.
    People are right to compare it to lost in the sense it was the OG puzzle show but this show explains its mysteries unlike lost which kept showing you weird things but didn’t explain anything in the end. I liked lost for its characters and watched it later so knew it wouldn’t answer anything so I didn’t have the same level of disappointment as people who watched it live.
    I hope the outline for 5 seasons pans out and works, so far the first two seasons have been extraordinary and the second was even better than the first.

    • @TimoCruz177
      @TimoCruz177 6 лет назад

      I guess people didn't like season 2 because it's so much different from season 1. season 1 was about the mystery of the maze and we only got to know what the maze was all about is on the last ep.
      Here on season 2 we knew Delos was trying to clone people by end of episode 5. so there was no real mystery other than "did dolores got out of the park"? "who is a host and who is human?" "why did they killed my fav character?" by this I mean the blonde girl that blew up the cradle, that girl is so much more than people give credit and her (final?) monologue was one of the best scenes I've ever seen in television.
      And yes,I believe that blonde is in Charlotte's Hale body now in the real world since Dolores build her real body back.

  • @stevebonella1
    @stevebonella1 6 лет назад +11

    Jonathan Nolan and Lisa Joy = Teddy and Delores

    • @Im_Evie_Now
      @Im_Evie_Now 4 года назад

      Or maybe, since they're creators, Bernard and Ford [respectively].

  • @liquidsnakeckw
    @liquidsnakeckw 6 лет назад +1

    Westworld is puzzle TV alright, time to rewatch Season 2.

  • @1Chasg
    @1Chasg 6 лет назад +5

    Just because it's complicated doesn't mean it's good... I really enjoy the show, tho when an episode leaves basically everyone somewhat confused, it isn't great.

  • @JinKee
    @JinKee 6 лет назад

    I want the end credits for the Season Finale to be all the cast coming out on the stage in the Mesa where Sizemore pitched Odyssey on Red River and take a bow while the Sweetwater theme plays and then the music turns to the main Westworld theme as the big screen honors the deceased cast members and crew (living, dead and computer generated).

  • @mikeyfocus3845
    @mikeyfocus3845 6 лет назад +21

    Season 2 was a masterpiece!

    • @Blood0cean
      @Blood0cean 6 лет назад +1

      Mikey Nichs in a world of horseshit.....

  • @thapeloafrika6459
    @thapeloafrika6459 6 лет назад +1

    I would love a directors cut of season 1 and 2 with the cut out scenes

  • @orsygodri1155
    @orsygodri1155 4 года назад

    "Puzzle TV" might be the most perfect description of Westworld ever.

  • @mjfilmmatics
    @mjfilmmatics 6 лет назад

    For the first time I can hear hints of a british dialect in Jonah's speech!

  • @nathanhostetler6950
    @nathanhostetler6950 6 лет назад

    It's crazy that they're still shooting shows like this on film.

  • @TCReyes
    @TCReyes 6 лет назад +111

    Lisa Joy is a knockout. Good for you, other Nolan.

    • @Joylevinstein
      @Joylevinstein 6 лет назад +1

      Cracked me up

    • @kashstory
      @kashstory 6 лет назад +3

      Lol, I really think he's better filmaker than his brother honestly.

    • @lyrilljackson
      @lyrilljackson 6 лет назад

      nah dude. nothing beats batman begins

    • @hitoshiigarashi5350
      @hitoshiigarashi5350 6 лет назад

      In the mood for dancing

    • @reactions5783
      @reactions5783 6 лет назад +3

      L Y R I L L ... "nothing beats batman begins" ... apart from every other non-Batman related Christopher Nolan movie. As good as Nolan's Batman trilogy is ... I would substitute that trilogy for another three completely original Chris Nolan movies in place of them in a heartbeat. Chris Nolan is far too talented to be wasted on superficial superhero nonsense.

  • @amasulem
    @amasulem 6 лет назад

    Great interview. Let the muse delight us further.

  • @TheBoyWonder0071
    @TheBoyWonder0071 6 лет назад +1

    Episode 4 & 10 were the best

  • @mannyverse6158
    @mannyverse6158 6 лет назад

    The stuff with maggie at the wheel is bone chilling

  • @bvanhaun
    @bvanhaun 6 лет назад +67

    Lisa Joy wore that top to distract us from her answers. THEY'RE PLAYING 4D CHESS.

    • @evthink
      @evthink 6 лет назад

      billjohn They must have learnt it from Trump ;)

    • @william41017
      @william41017 6 лет назад

      Huuu, what answers?

  • @urrrccckostan
    @urrrccckostan 6 лет назад

    "I can see that I am not living my life freely. I am living it as dictated by my suffering."
    Zen master Claude Anshin Thomas from his book "At Hell's Gate: a Soldier's Journey from War to Peace"

  • @ninelr222
    @ninelr222 6 лет назад +5

    Westworld park is a host' Jurassic park. Something eventually got out.

  • @TheDancerMacabre
    @TheDancerMacabre 6 лет назад +1

    22:30 "Half of it was this dead Genre" "The Western Genre was on it's way out."
    Uhh, are you sure about that? True Grit, Django Unchained and Hateful 8, The Revenant, "Logan" was essentially a Western. You had Deadwood and 3:10 to Yuma

    • @johnbull1568
      @johnbull1568 6 лет назад +3

      True Grit was a modest success, Tarentino movies do well no matter the genre, Deadwood was cancelled prematurely, 3.10 to Yuma barely broke even, despite Russell Crowe and Christian Bale leading, and Wolverine always sells. The classic Western is a dead genre, which is occasionally resurrected when a big star wants to do a western movie, as is the case with all the movies you listed.

  • @missusingle
    @missusingle 5 лет назад

    Great interview! First few minutes was wondering, “Why is Bill Paxton in this?”

  • @tinyspeaker
    @tinyspeaker 6 лет назад +36

    The lack of consistent and logical plot development (doesn't need for much) is made up for by the music and cinematography, which is better that I've seen in most movies by a distance. Westworld should end sooner rather than later, because there is nothing worse than destroying a beautiful thing.

    • @kashstory
      @kashstory 6 лет назад +5

      Please explain how it isn't consistent and logical.

    • @BebopBabylon
      @BebopBabylon 6 лет назад +1

      Well for one Kashstory, Maeve has full admin rights and core access given to her by Ford, but she still "dies" from getting shot when she doesn't have a regular body like humans. On the other hand, Dolores has none of that but can shrug off the shots she tanked from MIB before he blew his hand off.

    • @tinyspeaker
      @tinyspeaker 6 лет назад +1

      kashstory I mean little areas of plot armour and things like that, that aren't consistently provided. The idea that the caravan of people walking to the valley would continue walking when they've seen what's happening behind them is illogical.

    • @yossarian9985
      @yossarian9985 6 лет назад +1

      I agree, they need to have an ending to aim for, otherwise it just becomes another pointless endeavor going nowhere. Long form dramas that tell a complete, intricate story with a beginning, middle, and end (like Game of Thrones, or True Detective) are what makes TV so good today. Hopefully they have an end game in mind.

    • @Blood0cean
      @Blood0cean 6 лет назад +1

      bunetoff too late.... season 2 is a mess

  • @Superstarlight867530
    @Superstarlight867530 6 лет назад

    Love how the interviewer’s dress is channeling ‘pyjama chic’ 😉.

  • @alexandresobreiramartins9461
    @alexandresobreiramartins9461 6 лет назад

    I love when the host (pun intend) makes some crazy comment like "You plan all that to work on the viewer subconsciously" and they are like "What the hell is she talking about?!?" Overinterpretation is always completely silly. They already do so much complex stuff without that being necessary!

  • @misterjules5073
    @misterjules5073 6 лет назад +1

    As an artist and someone who understands the same stories that Lost and Westworld are covering, my biggest concern is that S2 left most of the audience behind. It was a fraction of S1 in terms of score, character, story, execution, etc. S1 monster score, flow, cast, performance, characters. S2 has almost none of that. They left 2/3 of the characters behind, Shogun world was a poorly executed waste of time, they went out of their way to be unnecessarily confusing, and threw in the bigger questions about life/universe in the barely keep you awake. If S3 is like S2 the show will be dead and I’d never like to see that. Lost and Westworld is a masterwork of which all can be understood and explained.

  • @lionelterese2922
    @lionelterese2922 6 лет назад +3

    I like the speakerine's pajamas

  • @DJdext
    @DJdext 6 лет назад

    My theory is this: while we do see at the end of the season Delores telling Berny they are going to be enemies etc this can have happened in the past. I wouldn't be surprised if we see Bernard leave the place he's in and walk right back into Westworld. Because Delores has remade Bernard many times. She even said that. And she is wearing the same dress as at the dinner party. So we know she has been out of the park many times before. And the end credit scene could be just a dream William is having while he recovers. So I think taking it back to WW and weaving another tale through all that we know so far would be a masterful original idea. We haven't really gotten much of Arnold's story so that could he where we go in this new season.

  • @mikeycox9934
    @mikeycox9934 6 лет назад

    I love the show only problems I have is the part where people can't change, mauve being almost like a god at parts, and a few things with the man in black but the last one can be because he's my favorite character so I was expecting a little more with him but overall I enjoyed this season.

  • @Wolf-of-the-north.
    @Wolf-of-the-north. 6 лет назад +10

    heart shaped box

  • @FTLNewsFeed
    @FTLNewsFeed 6 лет назад

    For everyone saying that the second season is garbage realize that you're also saying that "Kiksuya" is garbage, and if you believe that then your whole taste in good television material is subject to skepticism.

  • @EthanolTailor
    @EthanolTailor 6 лет назад

    loved that they used kanyes runaway

  • @vertigoz
    @vertigoz 6 лет назад

    Free will is a matter of an interpretation, because subconsciously one decides before hand it doesn't negate the free part of will, it's our subconscious after all, we are not driven by outside forces that dictate what to do, we are driven by a feedback loop that goes back and forth between the conscious an subconscious part. There are decisions which were already taken in the past by the conscious and are instantaneous dealt by unconscious mind because there's no need for it to meddle with it again, like there's no need to consciously drive the car all the time

  • @--Voltz--
    @--Voltz-- 6 лет назад +47

    THA'TS NOT LISA JOY OR JONATHAN NOLAN!! THOSE ARE ACTUALY HOSTS! MARK MY WORDS MAN! I KNOW A HOST WHEN I SEE ONE!!

  • @bodensick
    @bodensick 6 лет назад +4

    No, "puzzle tv" started with the show "LOST." It became a "puzzle" trying to figure out what the hell the writers were thinking after it was obvious they were "lost."

  • @zijielim4652
    @zijielim4652 6 лет назад +5

    So the interview is a (Host)

  • @bodensick
    @bodensick 6 лет назад +1

    Don't get me wrong, Westworld is one of the most unique and original shows in history. But what the hell do you do with a story line that roams too much and appears to be lost? When you're never sure who is a "Host" and who is human...it gets a bit too hard to care about (Ed Harris can't be a machine).

  • @alfreddelatourquipenche8287
    @alfreddelatourquipenche8287 6 лет назад +1

    I had problems suspending disbelief with the guns and bullets. Then ARROWS ??? Arrows are heavy. Arrows need to be fast enough to get anywhere. Arrows are too slow to be certain a human won't wander in their flight path. You cannot make a fake arrow. Arrows have too damn much kinetic energy.
    Also Abernathy: Abernathy went from holding backup data in season one, data that needed to get out of the park; to holding an encryption key (still data, and more reasonable than "I'll just pour all the park's data in this host") that is needed inside the park to unlock the forge. So a key plot line has just been totally flipped.
    I am triggered !!!!

    • @Newovar
      @Newovar 6 лет назад

      Not sure if you're being sarcastic.

  • @dodgeguy232
    @dodgeguy232 6 лет назад

    Now, I do not hate the show! As a kid in the 70's I loved the ideas in the original Westworld movie (even though it was cheesy) and was thrilled to see the continuation of this story with the added dimension's this version brings. But then in this season (the 'if one is good and two is better, then hell, 500 will be aweee-sssome!!' trap) it almost became comical at times. I can suspend disbelief...to a point...but to tell me that the hosts who still mainly used rifles and pistols were mowing down what looked to be highly trained, well armed security teams was a bit much. That aspect could have been told a different way to keep the story a lot more believable. And yes, I realize it's just a fictional TV show but that aspect seemed too forced just to show a ton more gore and killing just for the sake of it.
    I am a fan and hope it does well...and that the number of seasons they eluded to does the story justice in an entertaining, concise and thought provoking way. Hoping it's not another Fonzi ski jumping over a shark tank type of death!

  • @redmed10
    @redmed10 6 лет назад +6

    i feel they dont answer all the questions posed in the show because the writers are not aware we are asking them.

  • @kabirahuja4229
    @kabirahuja4229 6 лет назад +2

    The Atlantic article he was referring to : www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2016/06/theres-no-such-thing-as-free-will/480750/

    • @talal2245
      @talal2245 3 года назад

      Read through the article and I don't think that was actually it mate. Unfortunately, I'm sending you a message because I haven't been able to find the actual one.

  • @Yandysaze
    @Yandysaze 6 лет назад

    in finale William goes to the elevator and load his gun, where the hell he goes after that? what make him disappear? in time line the time William goes to the elevator is after the Bernard and its before the company crew went down to that level

    • @GhostFan-ev4di
      @GhostFan-ev4di 6 лет назад

      farshad azizi he never went to the elevator to begin with.

  • @atosdejusticaful
    @atosdejusticaful 6 лет назад +1

    His point about "the passenger in part" is a little deficient and I get the feeling the showrunners aren't familiar with the entire scientific literature of free will. While he's right about no free will in extremely short term decisions, there's evidence to show that humans have progressively more free will with farther of into the future decisions. This is because short and long term choices don't use the same mental mechanisms.

    • @udance4ever
      @udance4ever 4 года назад

      Think Fast Think Slow? :)

  • @jonathanwilliams8208
    @jonathanwilliams8208 6 лет назад

    Loved the show. Still waiting for someone to explain why free will doesn't exist. Is it because our emotions are downstream from electro-chemical reactions?

  • @wagneroliveira9122
    @wagneroliveira9122 6 лет назад

    Masterpiece

  • @CenterCoastVideo
    @CenterCoastVideo 5 лет назад

    Koodos Lisa Joy is quite the HOST vessel ... indeed

  • @yuanyuansun3521
    @yuanyuansun3521 6 лет назад

    Anybody get a slight chill when the video description of “host” came up?

  • @007akkas
    @007akkas 6 лет назад

    just ! What a Duo Brain § Thank's for share ure vision of the world, Westworld is a real (comparaison) at the world in wich we live, at an different scall.
    Brillant

  • @jpetersgoyanks
    @jpetersgoyanks 6 лет назад

    It is a little weird how many parallels between Lisa and Jonathan & Jed and Marissa Whedon exist as show runners for current popular sci-fi television. I love both shows but obviously Westworld is a cut above everything else on TV not based on the works of George R.R. Martin. Still, they are both brilliant young writing couples who are stepping out of the shadow of a more famous Brother/Brother In-Law who helped shape modern science fiction. Perhaps they are a one couple with a shared consciousness in separate host bodies? Hum?

  • @geloangustia2490
    @geloangustia2490 6 лет назад +1

    0:27 "HOST" ... nice touch

  • @connorveach5986
    @connorveach5986 6 лет назад

    great interviewer

  • @adriianbraxton3806
    @adriianbraxton3806 6 лет назад

    greatttt creators :)

  • @Templestone
    @Templestone 6 лет назад

    Free Will is entirely misunderstood! It is a choice of which “Passenger” Rules!

  • @pasqualified
    @pasqualified 6 лет назад +26

    this show is too smart for the mass public.... I hope they dont dumb it down for season 3

    • @humphrex
      @humphrex 6 лет назад +7

      s1 was smart. s2 was just a random horrible written plot. actually it got dumbed down for the masses, because they think confusing=intelligent.

    • @TimoCruz177
      @TimoCruz177 6 лет назад +3

      no, it's not random, if it were random nothing would make sense by the end. but as we can see everything they show makes sense and even call back to season 1.
      Season 2 was as brilliant as season 1, the thing is as the producers said once. Season 1 was all about the mystery of Westworld, season 2 will be War and Chaos and it were. we had a lot more action this time around than in season 1. I guess some people got into season 2 thinking we would do the entire maze thing again.

    • @humphrex
      @humphrex 6 лет назад +2

      it starts random since hosts suddenly have removable "brains". nowhere to be seen in S1. All the secret labs and drones make no sense either. And the scenes are random, like elsie in the cave or the daughter of mib. Daughter of Maeve also shallow and boring and so on.

    • @Blood0cean
      @Blood0cean 6 лет назад +2

      Pascal Christeller lol what is so complex to understand?
      The fact that most of u haven't seen memento to know the obvious plot design of season 1 is fault of ur ignorance.
      There is nothing complex other than the story telling that if nothing is pretentious in structure.
      The show should've died with anthony hopkins. They covered all the socio political topics under a nice narrative of ford's. Everyone else apart from Bernard is phoning it in and the writing in S2 is fucking horrendous.
      Ps. This show is only "Smart" to dumb tweens and toddlers.
      Sry precious nothing complex here.

  • @DougZaga
    @DougZaga 4 года назад +1

    Lisa's Taiwanese and English....WOW, she is gorgeous!

  • @Yasumi_Hoshikawa
    @Yasumi_Hoshikawa 6 лет назад +3

    All I want to know is...what happened to Newly Chivalrous Rebus???!

    • @nnahler
      @nnahler 6 лет назад +5

      The response team that was with Strand at the beach shot him in the head!

    • @Yasumi_Hoshikawa
      @Yasumi_Hoshikawa 6 лет назад +3

      OH NO NOT REBUS

    • @Joylevinstein
      @Joylevinstein 6 лет назад

      Yasumi Ⓥ They shot him down as he was trying to protect a group of hosts in ep1

  • @MadCalDisease
    @MadCalDisease 6 лет назад +1

    Season 3 we'll be all about VENGEANCE

  • @mspoints4fre123
    @mspoints4fre123 6 лет назад +5

    They look so tired lol

  • @Coobikful
    @Coobikful 6 лет назад

    So Lauren Laverne is a HOST

  • @Jaeboy
    @Jaeboy 6 лет назад

    The interviewer seems unable to chain through her questions, there's barely any transition into each one, it ends and begins so abruptly.

  • @cosmoissleeping
    @cosmoissleeping 6 лет назад +3

    Love lost joy's outfit here

  • @Keliiyamashita
    @Keliiyamashita 6 лет назад +6

    How come Christopher has an accent and Jonathan doesn’t? I’m calling it... Christopher is a host;)

    • @HarisonThes
      @HarisonThes 3 месяца назад

      Chris grew up in london, and Jonah in America

  • @stevenfair3992
    @stevenfair3992 6 лет назад +1

    WTF is up with the weird ass camera angle?

  • @NAVMAN987
    @NAVMAN987 6 лет назад

    That's a decent interview................

  • @lablahblah6436
    @lablahblah6436 6 лет назад +2

    Is this a dream?

  • @BlondeManNoName
    @BlondeManNoName 6 лет назад +1

    Sometimes less is more, you know what I mean? In that way season one was more succesful.

  • @zizoumonk10
    @zizoumonk10 6 лет назад +6

    The problem with Westworld now is that there are no more relatable characters because everyone relatable is either dead or became a psycho mass murderer.

    • @niebuhr6197
      @niebuhr6197 6 лет назад

      zizoumonk10 they're redirecting the audience towards Dolores and Bernard, Maeve might be recovered as well

    • @zizoumonk10
      @zizoumonk10 6 лет назад

      All of them psycho mass murderers, robots or in this case both. Until he became a psycho mass murderer, William was the most relatable character. I'm telling you, this show is going to have severe problems moving forward if it doesn't come up with a HUMAN relatable character that isn't a psycho. At this point it may be too late.

    • @niebuhr6197
      @niebuhr6197 6 лет назад

      zizoumonk10 zizoumonk10 my fav was Robert but now hes gone, (aside from his darker face he revealed when protecting his bots), but with Bernard im fine

    • @TimoCruz177
      @TimoCruz177 6 лет назад

      A TV show shouldn't be infinite anyway, I rather have a short to medium tv show (seasons wise) than a game thrones kinda tv show where at some point a once great show just became fan service because the writers don't know what to do anymore.

  • @rajivghazi1959
    @rajivghazi1959 6 лет назад

    I would have liked if Mr. Jonathan would have used the term, species instead of creatures,

  • @podorf
    @podorf 6 лет назад

    ALL HAIL LISATHAN xxxs

  • @jsskrishnakanth97
    @jsskrishnakanth97 6 лет назад

    15:00 Nolan humor :D

  • @masterbrice
    @masterbrice 6 лет назад

    Lauren Laverne -Host
    Freeze all motor functions ... are you serious?

  • @jjw238
    @jjw238 6 лет назад

    The key to salvation can’t be eternity in the matrix.

  • @issiewizzie
    @issiewizzie 6 лет назад

    Mr Nolan dress sense is similar to his elder brother

  • @slan7
    @slan7 6 лет назад

    12:21
    Nolan's English accent slips out on "finale"

  • @mark-shane
    @mark-shane 6 лет назад

    Getting rather excited about what is basically now a Soap? It cant end, it's written for commercialism

  • @OneRealGabe
    @OneRealGabe 6 лет назад +4

    The finale was so good they could have literally ended the show there and I'd be fine.

    • @CoryBleichner
      @CoryBleichner 6 лет назад +2

      Gabriel F. No you wouldn't have been. A week later you would have said yourself, where did they send the digital Westworld and the host data? Was it Mars or the Moon? Are we about to enter Space World?

  • @andyuh7085
    @andyuh7085 6 лет назад

    lauren laverne is a host