The Fall of STARBASE 1 | Star Trek Online Story Series E147
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- Опубликовано: 5 сен 2024
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The final mission in the Discovery-era arc would take Admiral Mark Hale to the future year of 2411, if he wasn't already there. Either holographic recreation or living through it, the downfall of Starbase one sees House D'Ghor and Mo'Kai on the doorstep of the Sol System and Earth.
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As far as the timelines, you could always go the Stargate route...there's a Mark Hale and a Mark Hail, and people are *always* mixing them up (Or funnier, a Hale and a Halle...so you can get the 'Admiral Mark Hale. One L.' line. :-)
Or it's his older brother Markus Hale.
"My Britishness..." this got a good laugh out of me!
got me good xD
In this episode of STOSS: Ric becomes Public Enemy #1 in the UK after killing Winston Churchill and blowing up Cardiff
One more Starfleet ship and he's a Klingon Ace!
Why does this sound like the recap of a Doctor Who episode?
@@redshirt5126 give em a couple years and it probably will be
_Today, December 7th, 2256, a day that will live in infamy, the United Federation of Planets was suddenly and deliberately attacked by the star forces of the Klingon Empire in the Starbase 1 System._
i feel it when you struggled to to destroy the Churchill. but I couldn't destroy the Vancouver.
I wish the AOY missions were available for non 23c captains like these are.
These are the Voyages and confusing Back Story of Mark Hail
Scuttling beyond-repair ships is actually an IRL thing. Many ships in WW2 had been scuttled.
Nice work.
By the way, are you planning for Admiral Mark Hale to meet with the ISS Discovery and dealing with them as well as missions involving the mycelial network?
Just curious.
Later and best wishes.
Yep. Going through them in the order they're presented to the player, so that's up next!
Oooooh, sick Enterprise finale burn. :-)
*chef's kiss* just so well done. Wish Hale's journeys were actual Star Trek canon.
Whenever I play it's your voice I hear in my head now...........love your videos
I fear the day Rick runs out of STO content because the devs have not been publishing enough new story arcs fast enough. That day seems to be approaching very fast.
We still have 17-1/2 missions before Rick's caught up. (The half mission is because of a two-parter where one of the missions is down due to bugs.) Given that he's been breaking the missions up into two or more episodes, releasing one episode per week comes to about 9 months before he's caught up. I expect at least 2 new missions release by then with another around the corner.
Maybe then he'll start a playthrough of some classic Trek computer games while we wait for fresh STO content?
@@KEVMAN7987 There are some Romulan "Faction" specific missions that he missed when he did those episodes (post faction aligning), so maybe he can go back and catch those.
So during this mission the Discovery is "missing' having crossed into the Mirror Universe correct?
Yes. They come back from the Mirror Universe shortly after the Battle of Starbase One
I can see this being a parallel univers similar to the Mirror univers only in this one Mark was picked up by Daniels before the TOS era.
You should do time line videos to help with explaining the mix of time with the newer shows & older shows. How they fall in line together & so on. As they are adding more stuff before TOS & woven aroubd TNG I would love so clear cut explanations
This is a pretty well laid out missions. It can be a ton of fun on advanced mode.
Oh, Hale is about to blow a Warp Core in an episode or two.
I believe head cannon should be Danels reintergrated both TOS and Discovery Hail in to a single person with both sets of memories.
I really like what you did there and how you pulled together the two narratives into one. I do have to ask though, will the Armiger get a a repaint with the Khitomer Alliance shield when the time comes? Considering Hale's already wearing the Alliance uniform, I had to ask.
It turns out that Doctor Who and Star Trek are in the same universe so we DO have a tenth planet in the solar system. It's where the Cybermen.. I mean, Borg, come from. You see it all makes sense... I really wish the writing was better. Did no one look up what an AU actually is?
Honestly Starbase 1 being in a location that doesn't make sense with some saying it contradicts lore...sounds like typical Star Trek. I don't know why everyone's so mad, inconsistency is kind of Star Trek's thing. Think they'd be used to it by now.
It's an easy vector to attack something that they don't like. There's plenty of things to criticize Discovery but that's not as easy as a cinemasins style ding counter
you could always head-cannon that by this era 1au is Sun to Jupiter, not earth to the sun... (Jupiter space-dock being the main base of Starfleet, it would make a degree of sense... not sure if 1AU is ever specified to be the current astronomical unit in universe)
then again,
I like the idea it is around the 10th planet (or whatever number the predicted gas giant will be)...
good location to be on the outer perimeter as a kind of sentinel...
makes sense to have a port there.
Starbase 1 is supposedly 100 AU from the sun. That’s where the Kuiper Belt is. The VFX/ SFX people working for the show screwed up big time. They weren’t supposed to have the station near Earth or another M class planet. I guess somebody confused Starbase 1 with the orbital office complex above Earth in Star Trek The Motion Picture. They look pretty similar to each other.
"Is that the tenth planet?"
Not unless we discovered a ninth prior to the Disco era because we no longer count Pluto as an official planet. One reason being that we've recently discovered larger objects than Pluto.
which is funny, given we've actually got about 7 dwarf planets in the system too, like Eris and Makemake, some of which are larger than Pluto, but still not big enough to be classified as non-dwarves.
Yes, quite a few dwarf planets out at that distance, some quite large, although none would have an atmosphere which this one appears to have.
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Welcome back 25th century
Oh boy.... this is gonna interesting.
I cant wait.
Love yore video can you history on the history of Dr daystrom?
And with that, every STO Tutorial Arc has been completed in the series except ironically the base 25th century native UFP Captain.
Due to the various dialogue options, I wonder if the unique DIS options will be edited in once we get back to TOS Mark Hale.
I kind of wish he would do the standard 25th Century Fed start at some point. Even though the disco era start is just a reskin of it. That first known character we meet is Nog and his USS Chimera.
To be fair, the bit of the DIS intro at Starfleet Academy is basically identical to the baseline Starfleet intro, so we’ve kinda already seen it
@@pjlusk7774 I mostly prefer the 25th c version. While the missions are almost exactly the same beat for beat the foes mix Klingon and Borg. And there is 99.9% less Tilly. Tilly seems a cruel thing to do to a new Cadet. Shran is cool and all. But still… Plus in 25th c you get Nog and Geordi. And neither wears out their welcome.
This was great setup for a villian. Such a shame on the writing pivot.
Those ships aren't Nimitz-class btw. They're DIS-style versions of the Maru-class using the Malachowski-class frame as a basis (upside down).
Could they have designed Starbase 1 to look any more like a Star Wars-esque superweapon?
Kinda surprised of all those ships you encounter, one was named the Vancouver. Neat how they go for lesser picked names for explorers and the likes
so this is before TOS, during Discovery (spoiler: but before the crew arrives to see the destroyed station?)
Yeah timeframe-wise, the Discovery is still in the Mirror Universe. This is probably a week or two before they make it back.
On a different point of amusement, I get the mental image of merged-Hale going from the Discovery tutorial missions to the TOS ones, and getting a massive sense of deja vu. :-)
Of course, it's also a shame you can't crossover with the other characters on your account...if only for the potential of a "Hale? Hale. ...The gang's all here." gag. :-)
I had to look it up to see I was wrong, but to me, admiral Quinn sounds a lot like Kevin Conroy's Batman
..I want a scene of Shran getting into an argument with a Weyoun. :-)
My nephew can’t stop giggling every time someone mentions the Klingons ever since he heard with the British use that same word and their slang
I like the Pliedes. Kind of an in between of the Reliant and the Discovery, very cool
Odd hearing a space ship called Cardiff. Is there also a Stockport & a Kings Lynn??
the holodeck-frame does make these mission a bit fun just for the out of place-ness of your toon there, like being in a non-fed ships in the scene with those two showing up.
On DSC, Admiral Cornwell mentioned that Starbase 1 had 80 thousand people, not 8 thousand, on board it.
You never say "good luck" you say "good hunting". Less implications of impending doom, good for morale.
you know having watched rick play through the STO, cross over/ touch on the STD era. something has occured to me with the mirror universe that is kind of really kind of stupid. the whole light sensitivity thing its a dumb retcon. like saying a dark time line, a common joke about our own world recently and making a universe that just went down a different path. (a path of cartoonist evil admittedly) and saying its literal darker there. its just dumb
Is the STD era every time Kirk or Riker hooks up with some new Alien?
@@hmshood319 you make a good point
I love doing this mission with my Kelvin ship, definitely a Holodeck.
Oh man, the Enterprise finale dig, haha.
1:03 shots fired
All hail Admiral Hale!
Played the episode yesterday with my 25. C. Captain. I appreciate that we can play this missions regerdless of which century our captains start but i would have loved a more fitting approch to it. Like forcing you to use a ship of the era. Or slightly chnaging some dialog voice and on screen. Felt incredibly weird to be called from admiral to admiral to accept orders from higher personal. Also again J'Ula and her plott armor. I like discovery amd what it brought to the ST fable but honestly this storyline shows why Earth would have fallen in days...
Maybe I heard it differently, but I processed it as Starbase 1 being about 100 AU from Discovery's position rather than being 100 AU from Earth.
Either that or we could just use the fact that in conversation people are prone to exaggeration. Like saying that there was an accident "in your own backyard" even if it happened halfway across your home country.
Also that line about your Britishness is pure gold.
As an aside, I don't really view this as retconning. At least not in the normal sense.
It is expanding on an era that was previously unexplored in canon and was between two bits of canon materials. Retconning, traditionally, would be taking a known event and recontextualizing it in a way that was clearly not intended and completely changes the meaning. For example the (thankfully) noncanon Section 31 novels did that quite a bit by faking the deaths of a lot of characters, turning some mentioned events into false flag operations, etc.
Stamets said Starbase 1 was 100 AU from Earth which means it was 101 AU from the sun. And he said that it was 1 light year away from Discovery’s position. 1 light year= 63241 AU.
Yeah, destroying those 4 Nimitzes seems pretty wasteful... I mean, set up remote detonation and if Klingons start sniffing around, let them get close. Or, you know, tow them close to a defensive station. (I mean, that admiral thinks STARFLEET can give up four ships, when Earth is under direct assault? Jeebus, park them in pairs and let SCE do their magic and I'm sure you'd have a pair of functional Nimitzes in an hour.)
Klingon ships of this version of “Star Trek” look like xindi ships to me.
I liked the holodeck subplot from Enterprise.
Captain Shran??? ???? Is he a decendant from the 2150's pre-Federation Shran or....... How long do Andorians live?
Grandchild, and I believe Andorians have a similar lifespan as humans. Around 100 or so years at most.
Would love for your excellent acting skill to whip up a few "unique banter" with J'Ula since you kinda have a history with her.
Good thing you didn't need to blow the USS Tea Time or the USS Warm Beer.
What happens to the Pliades if you’re not a Discovery era Captain?
I'm confused, klingons didn't have cloaking till time of kirk.... its what precipitated the enterprise incident...klingons gave romulans ship designs romulans gave cloaking tech.....which leads to the treaty of algeron....the treaty that forbids starfleet from cloaking tech....
Mark Hale really has earned the title of as an ensign once called it "Starfleet Royalty." How cool is that?
That "planet" might be Eris, another dwarf planet like Pluto. But it's supposed to be three times as far out as Pluto.
I wonder, if Hale got a new ship at this point, what would it be? We face J'Ula as an Alliance officer _and_ as a Starfleet officer. Unfortunately there are only two Alliance ships. I kind of prefer the Romulan Alliance version of the Chimera, since it's tough _and_ it has both a battle cloak and singularity-driven abilities. But... you only get those ships if you have a Lifetime Subscription.
Thanks+!
There's one member of house Mo'kai I'd love to work with again. You'll meet her soon. She almost makes the Civil War arc worth it.
Wouldn’t the easier retcon for Hale’s participation in the battle be that the Pleiades was there and was simply destroyed by the mycelial cannon, or that the Pleiades manages to get loose from that last BoP’s tractor beam and doesn’t get hit and is instead taken out by the mop-up force?
Planet Nine, if it exists, has a perihelion (closest approach to Sol) of at least 270 AU, which is considerably further than 100. However its orbital period within the range of 7-15k years makes it effectively stationary relative to Sol and other stars on the timescales of most sci-fi, which might be useful for writers unwilling to comprehend orbital mechanics in order to write about space travel.
Of course this makes it impossible for the planet to sustain a M-class surface without massive and constant artificial heating. This compounds its mass of 5-8 Earth masses and presumably correspondingly high surface gravity to make it a rather unappealing candidate for human colonisation. This is the sort of thing that breaks my immersion even when I especially suspend my disbelief for extra soft sci-fi like Trek.
Is this the same Shran from ST Enterprise?
Blow up Cardiff?
*Laughs in Swansea*
Yn chwerthin yn Abertawe
Your britishness will not let you fire on the Churchill. So just pretend it’s a French battle ship.
Is that a wondering planet possibly or is that suppose to Naburu??
No, it’s DSC’s VFX/SFX people screwing up and depicting Starbase 1 near an M class planet/Earth. I guess somebody thought Starbase 1 was the orbital office complex depicted over Earth in Star Trek The Motion Picture. They do have a similar appearance.
The unidentified planet seen here can not be the 10th planet of our solar system.
Such a planet would have an orbit quite a significant distance beyond the orbit of Pluto. At that distance, our sun would look like any other star, just a little bit brighter.
This planet looks to be at approximately 1 AU from its sun, assuming the sun is the same size as our own.
In other news, "Admiral Kensington's" British accent gives me a headache.
DSC’s VFX/SFX teams screwed up. Starbase 1 is not supposed to be near Earth. Somebody must have thought that Starbase 1 was the orbital office complex depicted over Earth in Star Trek The Motion Picture. They do resemble each other. Near the end of SNW’s pilot episode, a rebuilt Starbase 1 was shown with three planetary bodies nearby, none obviously M class. Retconning at it’s best.
ARE you in the sol system? if so...maybe it is pluto/some wierd Titan
Explanation for Starbase 1... Disco era writers and showrunners failed math and science in school. This is recurring theme throughout the show.
You forgot to mention failing proper script writing as well as solid plot formation.
Hurr hurr, Disco sucks.
God, come up with something new.
@@ashurablaze7545 Hey, don't blame me that it does.
@@ashurablaze7545 The problem is the fact THEY did(to the point of ignoring or throwing away everything that came before)and it's BAD
starbase 1 is not depicted as being above a planet in the show so this flub is on the STO team. odds are the felt that a station just floating at the edge of our solar system was not visually interesting enough so they added a random planet or moon below it to spice things up.
I doubt that planet Starbase 1 is orbiting is the 10th planet of our solar system because we don't have a 9th one yet. (Pluto's not a planet, no matter how much some of us want it to be.)
If I am being honest I am not a big fan of the overall storyline when it comes to the Discovery tie-in and a big part of that is J'ula's character "arc". I do not know exactly what happened but it feels like either something happened behind the scenes that made them change the direction she was going or it is simply one of the most pathetic attempts to pull a Zuko I have seen
Pull a Zuko?
@@kassar7146 as in the character from Avatar the Last Airbender who's character arc is considered by many to be the quintessential redemption arc
@@kassar7146 See, these are the type of useful comments ppl should be making: ones that further the sharing of info. Gg! 🙂👍
To Certifiably Ingame that planet is planet 9
Ever-retconning. 😂
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Uss Please or uss pioneer, make up your mind man.
Pleiades
... if women can't be star fleet captians, but also they can. How can they be admirals? Them TOS DIS inconsistencies amirite??
Paramount has retconned that bit. And they were right to do so. TOS was a 60s era show. No female captains, generals or admirals back then. The situation is very different now in the 2020s. The studio is not going to depict a Federation/Earth future where there are no female captains and admirals in Starfleet. Christopher Pike is not going to have the same attitude toward female officers in DSC and SNW that he had in TOS’s The Cage pilot.
no std or picard. never never never