Veep Ending Explained: Satire in the Age of Trump
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- Опубликовано: 27 авг 2024
- In the second part of our Veep Ending Explained series, we look at how the show has come to mirror the bleaker, meaner and more shameless aspects of American politics, and how it has fared since the election of Donald Trump. If you like this video, subscribe to our channel or support us on Patreon: / thetake
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Please do a take on The Thick of It, and Malcolm tucker's character. Would really like to see that.
I don't like you should talk masculinity or attractive men like me that are alpha males
Drone bombing of weddings was Obama's thing.
Something that I haven't seen commented on, but that I'm sure some people got, was that Selina made up a list of people she DIDN'T want at her funeral, and somehow, that was used as the list of people she WANTED to speak at her funeral.
But they still remembered to not invite Jonah
And the most amusing final knife twist: President Selena’s death is immediately pushed to the side with a breaking story of Tom Hanks’ death. She becomes old news for doing very little
It just a showcase of how little people.ever cared about her. She so obsessed with the oval office that she cant see it. Hell her own daughter busted out alcohol to celebrate her passing.
Well, it;s more just a call back to a joke earlier in the show about hoping Tom Hanks died so it would take over the news cycle.
To be honest, it would be hilariously chilling if the same thing happened to Trump or Clinton
ORANGE MAN BAD
That was covered in part 1 of this.
People tend to go to the old GOT as an example of good writing, mostly due to the fact that it is based on a book. But this show is just fucking incredible. The jokes, the delivery of each characters are amazing
Jonah Ryan is the aborted child of Donald Trump with her daughter. I loved his character.
I have a feeling more of a hope Succession can get there by the end
Ianucci has that really mean streak in him (don't annoy him if you meet him), that kind of schoolyard verbal combat you can only get in Britain. He is definitely using his powers for good. Maybe it's worked, because I tried watching the relevant episodes of Veep after Kamala Harris got nominated, and it's too hard and too cynical to watch. Veep is the rollercoaster going over the top, and we're now barrelling through the positive Gs.
Selina is a literal example of how american presidential candidates behave to win.
The best part of the ending being she planned her funeral so everyone would be out to see your legacy and honor everything she has done but is literally brushed aside when a bigger story comes along, just beautiful.
Lmao yeah, but the best part is they reference that in the first episode
Selina started Richards political career by killing the dog mayor by feeding him chocolate
Perhaps the only good thing she did for the country
The funeral was so funny.. her presidency meant nothing, the list of other people who became presidents just by naming them makes you think they must have done something great compared to her! Even Jonah's impeachment!
The "Math is muslim" part was once hillarious. Now that it became real, i'm really worried.
"Algebra" (Arabic word) = "Al Jazeera".
@@TFlex01 algebra derived from arabic word al-jabr meaning the reunion of broken parts. The word came from alkhwarizmi book ilm al-jabr wa'l-mukābala. I don't know the connection with al-jazirah (the islands) but thanks for noting.
Algebra actually originated in ancient India .
@@TFlex01 i dont know such reference. Sorry 😅
@@kanikagupta8261 it didn't, algebra, our numbers and counting in the decimal system came from the Arabians but India came out with a lot of useful maths as well!
One of the greatest TV comedies of all time. JLD is queen of comedy.
It’s called satire. Writing about a class, society, or community that they view as despicable has been a thing since Oscar Wilde did it with the upper class. You have no culture & you suck foh Veep is awesome
Also Seinfeld is awesome fuckin killjoy
@Josh Goodman"One of the greatest TV comedies of all time"? VEEP??? Clearly you never saw All In The Family, MASH, or Frasier!
reglavcor good shows but it doesn’t touch the finesse, the sophistication, the satire of the writing in Veep. Clearly you are a sentimentalist sir if you think television hasn’t improved since the 60s, 70s, 80s. It’s the GOLDEN age of television specifically because of shows like VEEP. Try again fool
@BLAIR M Schirmer - These are the same reasons that some people dislike the Trump administration(and indeed, much of what goes on in Sodom-on-Potomac). Kinda funny, don't you think?
lmao their creation of the "not me" movement was genius!
I think the Tom Hanks scene is a great move in Veep, which catapults the show's finale even further. Because it parallels Selina's dream and vision, and compares it with Tom Hanks accomplishments. Tom hanks is the person that Selina wanted to be. He is the representation of what could've been the future of Selina, which is to be successful and to be surrounded by her family. But ultimately she got none of those.
It also calls back to the first episode where Mike says that maybe the media will be distracted by something, and cited Tom Hanks dying as an example lol
You guys have gotta do an essay on HBO's Chernobyl. Such a hauntingly beautiful series, with many themes and characters to explore.
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Dah comrade☢️
I don't understand how can a disaster be entertaining? I cancelled my HBO Go after GoT.
@@sayakdas4159 Watch it and find out.
@@haymaker710 the podcast with the producer's interviews are worth listening to as well
Only recently binged through 7 Seasons of VEEP. OBSESSED, obviously. Your analysis of the show and what it represents is the most incisive and profound I’ve come across so far. Excellent work❤️
I mean "things can get better" is true, but we should actively do good for things to get better.
I thought it was clear that Selina was a democrat (in a universe where party doesn't really matter much), but I double checked and the only major reference is that Selina is shown as blue on the election map and wins all the typically blue states in Season 4 finale.
She was a far left blue liberal anti-american stalinist.... a true hero to the democrat party.
@@tonyc8752 Hahaha 🤣! Yupppppp
Tony Carney
She’s more like a fake Liberal. I mean she was against same-sex marriage, was for the 2nd Amendment, and she’s a feminist up until feminism doesn’t benefit her. I’ve seen pancakes in an IHOP that have flip-flopped less.
She’s an opportunistic snake, who’s party interests are neither pro-Democrat nor pro-Republican. But it is certainly pro-Selina.
they made it a point to not make it apparent what party they were apart of. that being said, it kind of obviously lines up w/ dems because 1 shes a woman 2 a lot of politics align w/ dems, IMO. what republican would have happily aligned w/ the trans agenda ala the bathroom thing. but at the same time, jonahs character was clearly a republican and a take off of trump despite being in the same party as selina.
@@tonyc8752 far left liberal wouldn't have outlawed gay marriage ya jabroni. that's why they tow the line so they can use whatever story line politically they want.
Imagine having an HBO account and not watching Veep
Disgusting.
Literally repulsive.
Sooo I wanted to rewatch this week. Somebody let a po lady get a login for 7 days
Ugh!!! Susannah and Debra-HOW are you this *consistently* excellent? Never disappointed, always enlightened ✨
I love it if Richard Splett was our President yo!🤞🏾
Joy Brown seriously that would be everything!
Finally a three state solution to all our problems
I wish he got his own Spinoff
the "not me" plot its hilarious & brilliant, lol
actually Jonah Ryan was modeled after Ted Cruiz.
Yep true
The show was a (hidden) masterpiece.
Can you guys please do a video on Killing Eve on the BBC? Its AMAZING
YESS
Agreed!
Leslie Knope for president lol
this but unironically
Should've been a cameo
Can you imagine her and Richard being the leaders of the free world? Perhaps people like them could actually be leaders for the world and not just the tagline of power. I was kinda hoping Selina blamed Ben. I wonder if that's what he meant
I m glad the veep show runner decided to end it with hope.
Amy’s kellyanne arc was amazing. Didn’t pic up on Mike’s though that’s cool
You two are great! Congratulations on such a good channel.
As a Brit, I was a tad skeptical about how this premise was gonna translate over to American politics but I recently watched it and loved it!
I stumbled into Episode 1 Series 4 from London and could not stop watching to the end and this hardened 66-year-old Englishman shed a tear at the finale...
There have been only 3 perfect shows - VEEP, BREAKING BAD , THE WIRE.
FLEABAG, THE KILLING OF EVE,VEEP,LINE OF DUTY......All created by UK writers including one American show...
Mad Men
Prolly wanna make this a list of just the first and third ones
@@Isleofskye I enjoy fleebag and killing Eve BUT I can’t label it perfect til the series is finished.
Very True.
I just watched the last 2 episodes of VEEP again a few hours ago.
It was very poignant and tragic that when Sheila Meyer FINALLY got to the top then all her closest allies had left her side for one reason or another leaving her with people like Keith and Tom's former Chief Of Staff..
Roger Furlong deserves his own video.
Richard's wife is gorgeous... Amazing ending!
@sboudreaux27 yup. It really was. 😁.
I never wanted it to end but it had to! I love how the main character was never meant to be a protagonist. Her obsession with wanting to be president also stemmed from her time as VEEP. She coveted it so much that her trajectory is a very lacklustre rise to the top with nothing to offer! We sympathise with her occasionally though.
Great breakdown from The Take!
Yes it took me this long to finally finish the series.
Im going to miss Veep soo much
Selina doesn't make me think of Trump. She makes me think of Theresa May. Someone for whom power is the end, not a means to an end.
Well said!
Bit hard on Theresa May.
That's still Trump
Kamela Harris: “hold my beer”…
It was pretty mild in the first season. Didn't carry on. I didn't realise it had got so interesting.
Yeah, it took a bit to find its footing and it’s teeth.
I m English and 66 and it's the best USA Series I have ever seen. All 7 Series..
Some people just fly too close to the sun and some people snap....
you are both amazing! you went to the core of it, not just the finale, but of the show. you talked about what was the central message all along (the struggle with power and morality) and the comparison to today's situation. love your videos on tv shows. i wouldn't mind more veep from you, maybe focused on characters like amy and ben?
This is an analysis of this show
VEEP was a great examination of the greedy hypocrisy and narcissism of the Democrat party, not unlike the great Warren Beatty movie "Bulworth". The truth is it was fun to poke at the dishonesty of the DEMs when it seemed safe, thinking that its voters would always act in blind faith to their cultivated sense of brand loyalty, emotionally assured that criminal corruption was an absolute impossibility among Democrat politicians, and the government bureaucrats they work with.
Love seeing the dummies (aka you) miss the entire point 😂😂😂
When she compared her to Daenerys my heart dropped and all those emotions cane flooding back
Love that they didn’t use any of the political party names. Because in the end it didn’t matter. Yes she was clearly more like a liberal. But in the end both sides of this two-party system are out to get you. These politicians all come from the same circle. They just align themselves with whichever side seems to be able to get them into office that year. Just like Selina they’d flip on their values in a second just to be president. Yes she’s likely a democrat and YES she overturned gay marriage because she doesn’t care. Politicians say whatever they have to, in order to win. Neither side cares about what they’re saying. They just want to say whatever gets the most votes.
Both parts 1-2 are excellent breakdowns of veep. Thank you for this!! I hope by the end of this year the US can start to see some of that redemption hinted at in the flash forward of the series finale.
I really love your analyses.
i would argue that in the finale, Selina reveled herself to be a John McCain / Mitch McConnell / Paul Ryan / Ted Cruz type Republican who is more than willing to whore out anything and anyone of value, even their own souls, to someone as dangerously insane as a Jonah Ryan / Donald Trump.
The parallels to Hillary are uncanny... The Chinese connections, the Charitable Organizations being exposed for fraud and money laundering, the willing to go with whatever to make herself look good... She reminds me alot if democrats because most essentially don't stand for anything and have no concrete plans or ideas... Tulsi Gabbard is the only logical Democrat I have seen thus far... And sorry to burst yours and Richard Splett's bubble but Trump actually did broker a peace treaty in the Middle East that no one talks about.... Stop listening to the mainstream media talk about Trump... Do your own research and go to independent news soutlrces because all mainstream media is incredibly biased at this point
@@mrmusicality994 You say this as if Donald Trump actually has convictions or morals
Let's never forget the moment McCain grasped the monkey's paw and selected Sarah Palin for VP, knowing full well she represented the future of the party if he did. I only wish this video was newer so it would talk about Majorie Taylor Greene, the final evolved Pokemon who treats DC like WWE.
You better cover my boy Richard Splett
One of the best ways hope is manifested as a motif is Richard fathering Selena's grandchild. His kind Presidency overshadow her political legacy, and his personal kindness wins over Selena's family and wins influence in her parental legacy.
This show was fantastic, one of my fav comedy shows, anyone who has interest in politics or international relations should watch it. And agree with the take, it became a sad reflection of reality, not much of a satire anymore Lol
everyone is literally the worst in the show especially selina. everyone except gary, richard and marjorie.
This is so so accurate it hurts
Thank you for giving some love to Veep. Please analyze Killing Eve 🗡️
Game of thrones character Cersei embodies Selina
I guess the question is now in their own little world, did Selina have to become as vicious as she did so that other women could even be considered as president... Much like Hilary had to do for her career... In the show the other women were able to go about it in better ways, but would they if they choice if it weren't for her becoming Veep in the first place
This was so good!
I've never seen Veep but I really want to now.
I'd love to hear your thoughts on a show that explores the moral complexity of politics in a very different way: Madam Secretary.
It has the most realistically-written relationships I've seen in television, and as a result, some of the best drama.
I downloaded all 65 episodes and binge-watched them all in two weeks last month!
Madame secretary is so hot
13:00 Richard Splett would probably never become president because he was too good a person. That's a problem Bernie Sanders had too.
Americans are too central to their own politics.
Trump can be beaten but not by Old Bernie.....it's blatantly obvious to this Englishman...
Loved this insightful analysis. It’s hard to tell the difference between the sarcasm in Veep versus real life, that’s why it’s hilarious. Fascinating ending too. President Splett gave us a bit of hope for humanity. Long live Selina!
This is a global phenomenon affecting all major democracies of the world today.
This was much better than the first part. Well observed.
I just finished "Veep" for the second time, and needed a little context. While your conclusion, "Things can get better" is amusing (and likely, naive), the reality (a year after your post) is we haven't hit rock bottom yet. Perhaps this downward spiral is only getting warmed up. From what I have been able to observe, perhaps Tom James may find himself on 1600 Pennsylvania Ave. after all?
Ok but they predicted the COVID vaccine response to a T...
You mean the Jonah character killing his own dad with Smallpox?
Such a great show! Loved both of these videos!
Funny because Selina is very clearly modeled on Hillary Clinton.
I mean, they’re both women… and they’re both in politics… and uh, I think that’s it
@@ethanhart129 People like you being willfully ignorant.
I had to rewind that ending a few times to be sure you'd said "buck up"
Richard for the Win!!!
Great video as always! I always find new shows to watch and new attitudes to watch a show with. It adds a whole layer of meaning to a show. This will always be my favourite channel on yt. Thanks for the great videos! ♥️♥️
The embodiment of pure avarice. Brilliant and terrifying.
So sad it's over!
Is that Elaine?! FROM SEINFELD?!
I guess jail really changed her after the show’s finale 🤷🏻♂️
are you living under a rock?
It's a double episode kind of day.
I will never stop laughing at “math teachers are terrorists” 😂
you should do a video on the dan & amy relationship!
Hi The Take! I am a subscriber and I have binge watched ALL your videos. Great Take on Veep! I would love it so much if you could make separate videos analyzing each main Veep character like you do with other shows... It'd be so cool. Thank you🙏💕
Pumping out the content today!
we see how powerful the pygmalion effect is. even the state of oirnation depends on the beliefs of its people
Omg Hugh Laurie?? Ill watch it!
He only comes in the last couple of seasons but the entire show is great
I remember Hugh Laurie playing a succession of upperclass twits...
One of the best comedies ever.
Selina’s hatred of Kemi reminds me of Trump’s hatred of Barack Obama 😐
Someone once said veep is about how she sells out everyone to be President, but gets nothing for it. The Tom Hanks thing is so LOL
I’d love to see an analysis of the thick of it - maybe about Ollies progression from lackey to Malcolm? Or the representations of the three key parties, and what their characters represent?
Stop Press: "Ollie" i.e. Chris Addison directed some episodes of Veep !
Those Sneaky GOT Spoilers! Even in a video with no relation to the show.
Richard was the best character.
It's not the Era of Trump, it's the era o every person who enters into politics in the world.
Holy shit. Hillary Clinton was Selina Meyer all this time.
Wow.... never watched this show before. It's nice to see that it has an optimistic ending. I gotta find some opportunity to binge it sometime.
Definitely not an optimistic ending. Quite the opposite.
@@carlh.h.2242
Oh? I guess I misinterpreted the message of the video.
@@johnsonjohnson3261 at least the ending low-key told us a good man got to be a good president. That character is honestly the most honest and character in the show. It's the only positive detail in the saddest ending I've ever seen in a comedy or drama.
This show is brilliant. One of my favourite quotes is from the abortion episode "get the government out of my fucking snatch"
Barry next?
Poor Gary
I really consider this the best sitcom of this century. Nobody else could play that character like Julia.
It is not going on it our current world; the Crisis of Ethics has existed since the dawn of humanity, since the dawn of power over things other than oneself.
They say "trumpism" like it isn't just fascism
They can't write a story as weird as our current reality. Just watch the news, it'll creep you out.
If you watch the news do some research before believing it. I mean there's a lot of fake stuff on there.
@@S_u_n_Flower_ exactly 💯 The mainstream media is just there to fill your head with lies at this point... Doing your own research paints a completely different picture....
@@mrmusicality994 Really messed up that we're so easily deceived.
Amazing!! Excellent analysis!!
Is this the same narrator as the Costco videos
The modern numbers(0-9), the decimal system, various principles of trigonometry we use today all originated in India, it was somewhat modified and carried by Arab traders to Europeans. Algebra was created by a Persian Mathematician. So if anything the 'Math' we use is more Indian and Persian than 'Islamic'. LoL
Veep is a very funny show, but is more prophetic of the current candidacy of Kamal Harris more than Trump. The parallels are overwhelming.
You should make a video on the new season of Black Mirror!
This was the most accurate biography of Hillary Clinton that will never be made.
No more math!
Man, that was fast! Part 2 up before I even finished Part 1! And also, as much of a monster as Selina was, let’s not forget she was probably the best choice among the worst, such as Tom James and Buddy Calhoun.
I'm not so sure about Tom James. At least with him I kinda saw a limit to his depravity. Selina kept getting worse and worse and I saw no limit to her ever growing corrupt nature.
Yo, Selina is Aaron Burr (the musical version at least). “If you stand for nothing, Burr, what’ll you fall for?”
Touche! Right there!