Oh wow so you've got the two must haves! I imagine the LSD does help but I've not driven one without to know! The LE is so nice with the body kits and bright seats. The Plus got push button start right? Are they both 6 speeds too (can't remember if LE was 6spd). Thanks, it's a nice car, seems a good buy, just wish it was Broom Yellow or Sprint blue! What colour are yours and how long have you had them? I'll be hoping to get the clutch done on mine soon so I'm not so afraid of launching enthusiastically!
Just realised the quaife wasn't the standard lsd right, so have you had them fitted to replace the viscoodrive? I think that was common to fit to FWD Alfa's (the Q2)
Hello! Great review, and video, congratulations!.. However, I would like to point out an essential point regarding the transmission and therefore the traction itself of the 20V Turbo Coupé, which has not been mentioned in the slightest, and which is only present and exclusively on the 20V Turbo versions, both normal 5-speed and special 6-speed, and this is very important! In addition to the mechanical self-locking viscous coupling (Visco Drive) for traction management, there was also a very sophisticated (especially for the 90s era) electronic traction control, called "EBL-ECU" (Electronic Boost Limiter) based on the management and control of turbocharging of the "Garrett TB28" Turbo, in the first 2 gears. The "Bosche Motronic ( ECU )" motherboard is able to identify the first 2 gears engaged, and thanks to the "Pierburg" electronic valve for controlling and managing the supercharging electronically, it reduces the pressure of the turbo compressor, in the event of any and excessive wheel slip, without however cutting off power to the engine like a classic "ETC" and thus causing the classic "serration" or "kickback" to be felt, thus maintaining acceleration performance constant. This sophisticated and ingenious electronic traction control system is also reported and highlighted in various reviews of both Italian magazines such as: "Auto" of 1997, "Quattroruote" of 1999, and also international ones such as: "AutoCar, and others.. .. It should be noted how the cohesion of these two Electronic (EBL-ECU) + Mechanical (Visco Drive) systems worked in unison in the name of mimesis, without the latter being physically combined in a single block like a classic VDC . In essence the mechanical self-locking "Visco Drive" acts as the "TC" (Torque Transfert), and the electronic "EBL-ECU," (Electronic Boost Limiter) as the "Traction Control." SORRY IF IT'S LITTLE!!! I WOULD SAY TRULY EXCEPTIONAL!!!! Greetings, and... Compliments!!! Bye. P.S: The prices of the 20V Turbo, especially the 6-speed Special versions with push-button ignition, Recato interior, Duomi Sparco bar, front spoiler and side skirts with specific or real design: Limited Edition: "Numbered and certified like the Lancia Delta Evo 2." Plus Edition: "Derived from the Limited Edition." "My 99 Édition: "Derived from the Plus Edition, they are going to the STARS!!!!!!"
Hi, thanks for watching and commenting. That is incredible knowledge and thanks for sharing. I was aware the 'LSD' is a viscoodrive so I guess not a proper mechanical LSD although it is trying to do the same thing of improving traction. However the boost management I was not aware of. That sounds so clever and very advanced for the 90s, being able to have that control, sounds like a real clever way of trying to keep as much performance as possible but not overwhelming the car/traction, which on big boosted FWD cars like this was quite common. Thanks again for sharing, I plan to do a full video soon (this was a short one and I was launching gently). Your car sounds very special, how long have you had it? The LE and plus are very desirable and worth quite a bit in the UK
@@carmanickI've had my Coupé 20v Turbo for 20 years now and just thought I'd pipe up. The car doesn't have any form of 'sophisticated traction control'. The ECU has no idea what gear the car is in either. It's does have a feature that limits the rate at which boost is delivered however. This acts to effectively reduce power in only the first two gears as boost doesn't raise fast enough to trigger it in 3rd gear+.
Great car !.......Still today.
Yeah definitely. The design is still unique and attention grabbing even to this day and the performance is still impressive!
Lovely stuff. I’ve got an LE and a Plus still…both quaif lsd and makes a difference….rubbish brakes mind hahahaha….lovely coupe man!👍🤘✌️❤️
Oh wow so you've got the two must haves! I imagine the LSD does help but I've not driven one without to know! The LE is so nice with the body kits and bright seats. The Plus got push button start right? Are they both 6 speeds too (can't remember if LE was 6spd).
Thanks, it's a nice car, seems a good buy, just wish it was Broom Yellow or Sprint blue! What colour are yours and how long have you had them?
I'll be hoping to get the clutch done on mine soon so I'm not so afraid of launching enthusiastically!
Just realised the quaife wasn't the standard lsd right, so have you had them fitted to replace the viscoodrive? I think that was common to fit to FWD Alfa's (the Q2)
Hello!
Great review, and video, congratulations!..
However, I would like to point out an essential point regarding the transmission and therefore the traction itself of the 20V Turbo Coupé, which has not been mentioned in the slightest, and which is only present and exclusively on the 20V Turbo versions, both normal 5-speed and special 6-speed, and this is very important! In addition to the mechanical self-locking viscous coupling (Visco Drive) for traction management, there was also a very sophisticated (especially for the 90s era) electronic traction control, called "EBL-ECU" (Electronic Boost Limiter) based on the management and control of turbocharging of the "Garrett TB28" Turbo, in the first 2 gears.
The "Bosche Motronic ( ECU )" motherboard is able to identify the first 2 gears engaged, and thanks to the "Pierburg" electronic valve for controlling and managing the supercharging electronically, it reduces the pressure of the turbo compressor, in the event of any and excessive wheel slip, without however cutting off power to the engine like a classic "ETC" and thus causing the classic "serration" or "kickback" to be felt, thus maintaining acceleration performance constant.
This sophisticated and ingenious electronic traction control system is also reported and highlighted in various reviews of both Italian magazines such as: "Auto" of 1997, "Quattroruote" of 1999, and also international ones such as: "AutoCar, and others.. ..
It should be noted how the cohesion of these two Electronic (EBL-ECU) + Mechanical (Visco Drive) systems worked in unison in the name of mimesis, without the latter being physically combined in a single block like a classic VDC .
In essence the mechanical self-locking "Visco Drive" acts as the "TC" (Torque Transfert), and the electronic "EBL-ECU," (Electronic Boost Limiter) as the "Traction Control."
SORRY IF IT'S LITTLE!!!
I WOULD SAY TRULY EXCEPTIONAL!!!!
Greetings, and...
Compliments!!!
Bye.
P.S: The prices of the 20V Turbo, especially the 6-speed Special versions with push-button ignition, Recato interior, Duomi Sparco bar, front spoiler and side skirts with specific or real design:
Limited Edition:
"Numbered and certified like the Lancia Delta Evo 2."
Plus Edition:
"Derived from the Limited Edition."
"My 99 Édition:
"Derived from the Plus Edition, they are going to the STARS!!!!!!"
Hi, thanks for watching and commenting. That is incredible knowledge and thanks for sharing. I was aware the 'LSD' is a viscoodrive so I guess not a proper mechanical LSD although it is trying to do the same thing of improving traction.
However the boost management I was not aware of. That sounds so clever and very advanced for the 90s, being able to have that control, sounds like a real clever way of trying to keep as much performance as possible but not overwhelming the car/traction, which on big boosted FWD cars like this was quite common.
Thanks again for sharing, I plan to do a full video soon (this was a short one and I was launching gently).
Your car sounds very special, how long have you had it? The LE and plus are very desirable and worth quite a bit in the UK
@@carmanickI've had my Coupé 20v Turbo for 20 years now and just thought I'd pipe up. The car doesn't have any form of 'sophisticated traction control'. The ECU has no idea what gear the car is in either. It's does have a feature that limits the rate at which boost is delivered however. This acts to effectively reduce power in only the first two gears as boost doesn't raise fast enough to trigger it in 3rd gear+.