The big machines doing “crazy” things are wow.. then a small machine turning out parts is a good change.. it also shows a smaller machine can bring you into manufacturing. Seeing well known faces grow in time is also wonderful. Shows life is a journey not a destination. Keep growing all of you.
Most High Schools had a machine shop to get into manufacturing before we shipped our production to communism in china starting 44 years ago, and the wealth creating machine shop classes turned into arts and crafts for more poverty.
@@EarthSurferUSA We should’ve followed Germany by protecting our manufacturing and training individuals into advanced manufacturing. It really sucks but I hope to see made in USA common in my life.
I do not need any of the options for my 2007 110 PCNC to make a living from it for the last 15 years. I could not do that for 12 grand anywhere else, (I got the stand too) or even 35 grand, I doubt. But, if I am going to pay 35 grand or higher for a machine, I would need it to make bigger chips than this machine can,. But there is not a better suited machine in the world that serves my purpose so well for so little. I am going to fire it up right now. :)
I have been making a living off of one Tormach PCNC 1100 since 2007. I cut small castings using mostly cutters under .187". One time, I made a set of idler pulleys for a car blower belt using a 3/8 2-flute ball nose end mill, stepping only .010 in aluminum, and it was enough stress for oil to leak from the spindle nose. Don't even try index-able inserts for any kind of hogging. I know you want to show the machines capabilities, but making billet parts for any kind of production is not for this machine, (great for prototyping though). I also find no need for coolant, since the heat is not enough to clog a cutter with aluminum. I found the coolant tank works excellently for catching the way oil so you can reuse it, even with a chip tray full of chips. My machine will have been in use for the last 15 years this summer (2022). I have had 2 electrical failures that had down time of less than 3 weeks total, no mechanical failures, and have not even tightened up the gibs or ball screws. I have put almost 1.3 million dollars worth of work through it, and it cost me 12 grand. :) For light work, you can get more run hours out of this machine with less trouble than any of the 20 machines shop I had worked for had done, (about 10 years is the limit). But go bigger like this on the cutters, and I am not so sure that would remain true. It is not a "mountain mover". Pleasure doing business with you Tormach. You saved my life. :) Doug in Michigan.
I make billit parts with my tormach 1100m. I run 30-50 thou stepovers with 3/8 and 1/2 endmills for roughing at full axial depth of cut and the spindle doesnt even seem to notice. I think the oil from the spindle nose was just a fluke thing possibly. You should definitely be able to run light production (20-50 billit parts a week) for aluminum on a tormach.
@@MotoBuilds If it cuts smoothly, you should be fine I am sure. But with that 2 flute ball nose em or index-able cutters, they will hammer and oil will start to leak out.
You are not going to produce billet parts on this machine and be competitive in the market. It is just too slow. I port small aluminum 2-stroke cylinders with it, and don't have that kind of competition. My "finish hand work" takes lounger than a cycle time anyway.
@@EarthSurferUSA I'm in a niche market. I'm very high profit low volume. That was always the goal. Living stress free is just as valuable as money to me.
I'd love to see a part made from start to finish. Most times we only see the top being made but I'm always curious to see how you flip it over and finish off the bottom. Eg: Work holding when part is flipped over. Cheers Titans you're all AWESOME!!
Is this device a Cnc Machine like controlled by Fanuc, Siemens or mitsubish or is it a upgraded Router ? These are very different. Can Tormach used as a serial production like 4-5 parts per day ?
Always love these, but have some questions. I’ve noticed when/if you guys spot drill you use the 90° chamfer, the go drill tips are 140°. Lots of thoughts on the topic but safe to assume you guys don’t think it’s necessary to have a larger included angle for the spot? Such as 142° Could you guys do more of the second side in these as well? The first side is great, but it’s not done yet 😉
I am sure you can if you can just download the G&M program it makes into the machine. You may have to do some editing at the machine to make it work, but that is easy if you know G&M code. Write all your non-3D programming by hand, and you will get good at it pretty fast. :) G&M code is G&M code no matter what source made it, and we can always edit it at the machine. I don't know how to use 3-D software, (I just use Mastercam for drawing and finding points of interest) and rarely need 3-D machining for what I do, so I hand write all my programs. They are much shorter programs than what a computer generates. :)
Great video! How do you all deal with the cable tension from having the ETS on the left side of the bed when working in the 4th axis work zone? We have ours set up in a very similar way, and it wants to really pull the cable out of the Accessory 2 port. Thinking about making cable extensions to solve it
Hang the cable from the roof of the cabin with enough slack for the table travel? Not sure what the ETS (electronic tool setter?, which I never use and find a waste of money), is, so I may be off base.
I have 15 years on mine with small cutters in aluminum. It will hold tight tolerances, but it does not have a closed loop position system, (relies on the ball screws like a manual mill.), so if you want super accurate hole positions, for example, you should program the moves to keep the backlash on the same side of the ball screws, (like coming to a hole position from a minus x and minus y position for every hole). If the ball screws are not worn out, it can be almost as accurate as a cnc machine can. It just takes a bit more work up front.
One thing it will not do that a well maintained CNC will with a closed loop positioning system is cut a perfectly round hole, (like under .0002" out of round), with circle interpolation. you will see the backlash at the edged of every quadrant, (where the screws change direction). But it still has to be a very good machine to be able to crop bearings in such a hole, or else they have to be bored or reamed.
I have the 1100 from 2007, and cut aluminum almost exclusively, (small castings and a bit of billet.). The 4000rpm spindle speed has never generated enough heat for the material to clog the flutes and break a cutter. I don't run coolant anymore, and it wrecked havoc on a limit switch or two early on. The coolant tank makes an excellent "way oil catch tank" so I can filter and reuse the way oil after I go through about 5 gallons. Even though it may be a help in some situations, I say forget the coolant for this machine. I have not used it for about 13 years now.
I have had this machine since 2007, and if you want to live off of it for 15 years with almost no problems, you will not want to use a cutter bigger than 3/8", and never use index-able cutters. It won't last 15 years doing that. You will not make money making billet parts from this machine, (just not fast enough), but it is great for lighter work and prototyping.
Many CNC machines are made in china too now. But this one I have been living off of for 15 years,---so this company makes sure they have good quality control. No kidding, 15 years with 2 electrical breakdowns that cost me less than 3 weeks down time and under $700.00 for parts. Of course, I am using small cutters, but show me another machine that has done that. I have worked in over 20 shops, and none have come close to beating that reliability. It is a very light duty machine. But if used that way,---well---I am super happy about it. :)
You use a G83 (Peck drilling cycle) for holes deeper than about 3 times the drill diameter. Any cheap High Speed drill is fine for aluminum. But some nice drills can give you a very accurate hole, maybe eliminating the need for a reamer.
Just a set of riser jaws that are cut so you don't use parallel bars under the work piece. Makes it faster to clean off and load parts if parallels are not floating around. You can make a set for your vise, if they are not a PO purchase item where you can buy them.
220 single phase. Just double up (2) 110's in the garage breaker box and put the 220 receptacle where you need it to plug into. I can run my 220 lathe and 220 air compressor the same way at the same time, and have not exceeded local rural service running all at once.
It is your life. I would probably move somewhere where you are free to educate yourself, and start a manufacturing business, (for example). In the USA here, and until my little business took off from my own brain and efforts,--I had no idea what real human freedom was. Not many people in the USA even understand that.
At least, I don't think the newer Tormacs use a "close loop positioning system". I still use their old Dell computer I got with the machine, and have not seen their own control. But for the cost, I am doubting it has it. Not sure.
Like I said, with just drawing and knowing G&M programming, you can efficiently machine (anything that fits on the machine) with no software knowledge unless you are doing 3-D machining. I have done 3-D programming by hand, but a 1 " long surface took me all damn day to find the points to program by hand. :) 2-D programming---I can do just as fast by hand as somebody can do with a computer. Learn to do "sub programs/routines", and you can do anything well, other than 3-D machining. I have also had decades of experience figuring out things like speeds/feed rate/chip load,---tool capabilities, which helps a lot for programming well the first time.
Good job using a Form/Roll Tap Aluminum. But you didn't explain that Form Tapping aluminum creates a stronger thread due to grain rearrangement. The more you know, right?
It is not the grain rearrangement that you would see in a heat treating process, but just a compression of the material. There may be some toughness benefit, but it can only be done with softer materials. I was never a big fan of the process over cutting taps, but I am sure it has some advantages I almost never needed. I will think about that again the next time I fix a aluminum thread with a heli-coil. :)
IMO, the best advantage of a roll tap is if you don't want to make any chips that may bot be easy to remove, like tapping a oil pan drain hole, or something like that.
I file a complaint against Tormach, an American company like a scammer. Tormach This company does not send the ordered goods. Of course, the approval was made in October 2021. I file a complaint against fraud against customers of these companies.
Since our school system pulled machine shops out of HS when we shipped our production to communism in china, is machining opportunity in the USA only for prisoners now?
I file a complaint against Tormach, an American company like a scammer. Tormach This company does not send the ordered goods. Of course, the approval was made in October 2021. I file a complaint against fraud against customers of these companies.
You know, under the corona/commie attack on our free market, that they also can not get some of the parts they need? I have been doing wonderful business with this company for 15 years, and i consider them one of the best companies in the world to do business with. So you go file a joint complaint with karl marx, but government is not going to make you this machine. You need to sue you schools. You were probably more bright before you enrolled. That is where you were scammed.
@@EarthSurferUSA Is this how such a good American company you're talking about handles things? Can't such a company send goods to customers after four months because they can't buy parts to make $400 Vise? The Tormach marketer keeps saying "Sorry~ Sorry" to me. I'm dissatisfied with the slow customer service of an American company, but am I wrong? After all, I received an apology from Toemach and received the goods four months later, but my experience from an American company remains a very bad image of the country of America. You will also confirm that you are "American" in the form of your reaction.
The big machines doing “crazy” things are wow.. then a small machine turning out parts is a good change.. it also shows a smaller machine can bring you into manufacturing. Seeing well known faces grow in time is also wonderful. Shows life is a journey not a destination. Keep growing all of you.
Most High Schools had a machine shop to get into manufacturing before we shipped our production to communism in china starting 44 years ago, and the wealth creating machine shop classes turned into arts and crafts for more poverty.
@@EarthSurferUSA We should’ve followed Germany by protecting our manufacturing and training individuals into advanced manufacturing. It really sucks but I hope to see made in USA common in my life.
@@EarthSurferUSAmy highschool just got a 1100m and a grizzly vertical mill
So small numbers of subscriber this channel deserve a millions of
Everybody is into arts and crafts today, and will have no idea why they will live in poverty.
wait till titan sees this he be slapping you rest of the day for having the spot drill retract so high
Is Nicole not running the Tormachs anymore?
Nicole is doing MasterCAM Tutorials presently for our Free Academy.
So, yes Tormach 1100's start relatively cheep, but the optioned out machine you are using in this video is about 35K, correct?
That’s the premium package, yessir. But that $33.8k package comes with ~$550 of drills, $1300 of toolholding, a vise for the machine etc etc.
I do not need any of the options for my 2007 110 PCNC to make a living from it for the last 15 years. I could not do that for 12 grand anywhere else, (I got the stand too) or even 35 grand, I doubt. But, if I am going to pay 35 grand or higher for a machine, I would need it to make bigger chips than this machine can,. But there is not a better suited machine in the world that serves my purpose so well for so little. I am going to fire it up right now. :)
@@EarthSurferUSA
35k won't get you a basic Haas Mini
I have been making a living off of one Tormach PCNC 1100 since 2007. I cut small castings using mostly cutters under .187". One time, I made a set of idler pulleys for a car blower belt using a 3/8 2-flute ball nose end mill, stepping only .010 in aluminum, and it was enough stress for oil to leak from the spindle nose. Don't even try index-able inserts for any kind of hogging.
I know you want to show the machines capabilities, but making billet parts for any kind of production is not for this machine, (great for prototyping though). I also find no need for coolant, since the heat is not enough to clog a cutter with aluminum. I found the coolant tank works excellently for catching the way oil so you can reuse it, even with a chip tray full of chips.
My machine will have been in use for the last 15 years this summer (2022). I have had 2 electrical failures that had down time of less than 3 weeks total, no mechanical failures, and have not even tightened up the gibs or ball screws. I have put almost 1.3 million dollars worth of work through it, and it cost me 12 grand. :)
For light work, you can get more run hours out of this machine with less trouble than any of the 20 machines shop I had worked for had done, (about 10 years is the limit). But go bigger like this on the cutters, and I am not so sure that would remain true. It is not a "mountain mover".
Pleasure doing business with you Tormach. You saved my life. :)
Doug in Michigan.
I make billit parts with my tormach 1100m. I run 30-50 thou stepovers with 3/8 and 1/2 endmills for roughing at full axial depth of cut and the spindle doesnt even seem to notice. I think the oil from the spindle nose was just a fluke thing possibly. You should definitely be able to run light production (20-50 billit parts a week) for aluminum on a tormach.
@@MotoBuilds If it cuts smoothly, you should be fine I am sure. But with that 2 flute ball nose em or index-able cutters, they will hammer and oil will start to leak out.
You are not going to produce billet parts on this machine and be competitive in the market. It is just too slow. I port small aluminum 2-stroke cylinders with it, and don't have that kind of competition. My "finish hand work" takes lounger than a cycle time anyway.
@@EarthSurferUSA I'm in a niche market. I'm very high profit low volume. That was always the goal. Living stress free is just as valuable as money to me.
I'd love to see a part made from start to finish. Most times we only see the top being made but I'm always curious to see how you flip it over and finish off the bottom. Eg: Work holding when part is flipped over. Cheers Titans you're all AWESOME!!
Good machine tools are good cutting tools
Can you explain How to control deflection after machining...
Up before the sun killing it
Beautiful jod... América!. Thank-you very much for the video!.. Nais....Boomm !!....
Second Side!
Is this device a Cnc Machine like controlled by Fanuc, Siemens or mitsubish or is it a upgraded Router ? These are very different. Can Tormach used as a serial production like 4-5 parts per day ?
If I’m not mistaken tormach makes their own controller.
Is the is Kennametal 3" Shell Mill with the 1" arbor? PN: 5673338 as listed in the Titan kit?
Enjoyed .
What is the metal being cut?
Always love these, but have some questions.
I’ve noticed when/if you guys spot drill you use the 90° chamfer, the go drill tips are 140°. Lots of thoughts on the topic but safe to assume you guys don’t think it’s necessary to have a larger included angle for the spot? Such as 142°
Could you guys do more of the second side in these as well? The first side is great, but it’s not done yet 😉
I think its more important to have correct tip angle for spotdrilling when dealing with small and deep holes 😊
I like this content! Where’s my girl niki at though!?
Nicole is doing MasterCAM Tutorials presently for our Free Academy.
@@TITANSofCNC You wouldn't believe how glad I am to read this, liked and subscribed
Can I use mastercam for drive it?
I am sure you can if you can just download the G&M program it makes into the machine. You may have to do some editing at the machine to make it work, but that is easy if you know G&M code. Write all your non-3D programming by hand, and you will get good at it pretty fast. :)
G&M code is G&M code no matter what source made it, and we can always edit it at the machine. I don't know how to use 3-D software, (I just use Mastercam for drawing and finding points of interest) and rarely need 3-D machining for what I do, so I hand write all my programs. They are much shorter programs than what a computer generates. :)
Great video! How do you all deal with the cable tension from having the ETS on the left side of the bed when working in the 4th axis work zone? We have ours set up in a very similar way, and it wants to really pull the cable out of the Accessory 2 port. Thinking about making cable extensions to solve it
Hang the cable from the roof of the cabin with enough slack for the table travel? Not sure what the ETS (electronic tool setter?, which I never use and find a waste of money), is, so I may be off base.
Did the tormach hold tolerances though?
I have 15 years on mine with small cutters in aluminum. It will hold tight tolerances, but it does not have a closed loop position system, (relies on the ball screws like a manual mill.), so if you want super accurate hole positions, for example, you should program the moves to keep the backlash on the same side of the ball screws, (like coming to a hole position from a minus x and minus y position for every hole). If the ball screws are not worn out, it can be almost as accurate as a cnc machine can. It just takes a bit more work up front.
One thing it will not do that a well maintained CNC will with a closed loop positioning system is cut a perfectly round hole, (like under .0002" out of round), with circle interpolation. you will see the backlash at the edged of every quadrant, (where the screws change direction). But it still has to be a very good machine to be able to crop bearings in such a hole, or else they have to be bored or reamed.
do you use linux-cnc ?
What coolant you running?
It looks like water?..
Blaser Synergy 735
I have the 1100 from 2007, and cut aluminum almost exclusively, (small castings and a bit of billet.). The 4000rpm spindle speed has never generated enough heat for the material to clog the flutes and break a cutter. I don't run coolant anymore, and it wrecked havoc on a limit switch or two early on. The coolant tank makes an excellent "way oil catch tank" so I can filter and reuse the way oil after I go through about 5 gallons. Even though it may be a help in some situations, I say forget the coolant for this machine. I have not used it for about 13 years now.
what price this machine sir
Wow, I have this machine and i just found out thanks to this video i can push the 3/8 Kor 5 Way harder. Thanks guys! Im still working on the Titan-.6M
Remember, there is a Titan deal for the tools. $41
I have had this machine since 2007, and if you want to live off of it for 15 years with almost no problems, you will not want to use a cutter bigger than 3/8", and never use index-able cutters. It won't last 15 years doing that. You will not make money making billet parts from this machine, (just not fast enough), but it is great for lighter work and prototyping.
You using solid works for designing your parts?
Titan loves Autodesk Inventor
@@goldman7267the cam is through fusion 360 I believe.
Is IT possible to Run parts within .0004-.0008" (0,01-0,02mm).
I really Like the concept of This simple and small Machines. But i Need precison.
Sure. Better get that machine laser calibrated and you won’t be able to run max rpm due to spindle heat growth.
Like the Harbor Freight machine of CNCs.
Many CNC machines are made in china too now. But this one I have been living off of for 15 years,---so this company makes sure they have good quality control.
No kidding, 15 years with 2 electrical breakdowns that cost me less than 3 weeks down time and under $700.00 for parts. Of course, I am using small cutters, but show me another machine that has done that. I have worked in over 20 shops, and none have come close to beating that reliability. It is a very light duty machine. But if used that way,---well---I am super happy about it. :)
Over almost 15 years of use, (this summer of 2022), I have almost 1.3 million dollars worth of work through this machine from 2007.
I know we're professional, but i can't stop thinking of R2D2 when the spindle starts
What makes you think you are professional? :)
Goddrill use g81 or 83 br I see u use g81 what kind gold drill it good
You use a G83 (Peck drilling cycle) for holes deeper than about 3 times the drill diameter. Any cheap High Speed drill is fine for aluminum. But some nice drills can give you a very accurate hole, maybe eliminating the need for a reamer.
What kind of jaws are on your vise there?
Just a set of riser jaws that are cut so you don't use parallel bars under the work piece. Makes it faster to clean off and load parts if parallels are not floating around. You can make a set for your vise, if they are not a PO purchase item where you can buy them.
Is the Titan 26m a part you sell or is this just an instructional video?
It's a part in their academy tutorial list for people trying to learn cnc.
Beautiful ❤️
Did u say 110 outlet?
220 single phase. Just double up (2) 110's in the garage breaker box and put the 220 receptacle where you need it to plug into. I can run my 220 lathe and 220 air compressor the same way at the same time, and have not exceeded local rural service running all at once.
I'm from indonesia🇮🇩
It is your life. I would probably move somewhere where you are free to educate yourself, and start a manufacturing business, (for example). In the USA here, and until my little business took off from my own brain and efforts,--I had no idea what real human freedom was. Not many people in the USA even understand that.
I can't find Titan 26m in the academy
I'm looking for it, too. It appears I'll need to order some larger material for the 26M. Hoping the drawing becomes available soon.
And what if I don't have garage?
Basement?
@@RoboDriller you don't get this machine through a normal door
Living room
7th floor
3rd floor walk up?
Hey Titan, Can you make a tutorial how to calibrate the blacklash value in fanuc control?
Is there such a thing for a closed loop positioning system, (which this machine does not have). I don't know. Ask Fanuc. They might know.
At least, I don't think the newer Tormacs use a "close loop positioning system". I still use their old Dell computer I got with the machine, and have not seen their own control. But for the cost, I am doubting it has it. Not sure.
Material??
Most likely, 6061 HT aluminum.
This CNC machine has his software?
Like I said, with just drawing and knowing G&M programming, you can efficiently machine (anything that fits on the machine) with no software knowledge unless you are doing 3-D machining. I have done 3-D programming by hand, but a 1 " long surface took me all damn day to find the points to program by hand. :)
2-D programming---I can do just as fast by hand as somebody can do with a computer. Learn to do "sub programs/routines", and you can do anything well, other than 3-D machining. I have also had decades of experience figuring out things like speeds/feed rate/chip load,---tool capabilities, which helps a lot for programming well the first time.
Good job using a Form/Roll Tap Aluminum. But you didn't explain that Form Tapping aluminum creates a stronger thread due to grain rearrangement. The more you know, right?
It is not the grain rearrangement that you would see in a heat treating process, but just a compression of the material. There may be some toughness benefit, but it can only be done with softer materials. I was never a big fan of the process over cutting taps, but I am sure it has some advantages I almost never needed.
I will think about that again the next time I fix a aluminum thread with a heli-coil. :)
IMO, the best advantage of a roll tap is if you don't want to make any chips that may bot be easy to remove, like tapping a oil pan drain hole, or something like that.
Why not buy a similar BT30 machine directly from a Chinese manufacturer for half the price?
i don't have a garage tho...
Programmed in Mastercum? ;))) 2:40
קרא את ישעיהו 53, תהילים 16 ו-22. לאחר מכן קרא את מתי 27. המשיח כבר הגיע בפעם הראשונה והוא הדרך היחידה לאלוהי אברהם, יצחק ויעקב (יוחנן 14:6).
I wish I had a garage that big. Oh well I'll stick to my sherline and masso g3
I file a complaint against Tormach, an American company like a scammer.
Tormach This company does not send the ordered goods. Of course, the approval was made in October 2021. I file a complaint against fraud against customers of these companies.
Since our school system pulled machine shops out of HS when we shipped our production to communism in china, is machining opportunity in the USA only for prisoners now?
太暴力了
First view
I could make it faster than that,
Lots of air-time in there
Please give me the codes
What are they worth to you?
I file a complaint against Tormach, an American company like a scammer.
Tormach This company does not send the ordered goods. Of course, the approval was made in October 2021. I file a complaint against fraud against customers of these companies.
You know, under the corona/commie attack on our free market, that they also can not get some of the parts they need? I have been doing wonderful business with this company for 15 years, and i consider them one of the best companies in the world to do business with. So you go file a joint complaint with karl marx, but government is not going to make you this machine. You need to sue you schools. You were probably more bright before you enrolled. That is where you were scammed.
@@EarthSurferUSA Is this how such a good American company you're talking about handles things?
Can't such a company send goods to customers after four months because they can't buy parts to make $400 Vise?
The Tormach marketer keeps saying "Sorry~ Sorry" to me.
I'm dissatisfied with the slow customer service of an American company, but am I wrong?
After all, I received an apology from Toemach and received the goods four months later, but my experience from an American company remains a very bad image of the country of America. You will also confirm that you are "American" in the form of your reaction.