THIS Is What ~16 Hours A Day For 3 Months Looks Like | Classic WoW
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Classic WoW has a bit of a reputation for people trying a little too hard on easy content, never has this been more true for when the ranking and honor system released in phase 2 of Classic.
Today I talk through how this system worked and all the little details that players took advantage of during what was for me, without a doubt, the sweatiest 2 months of gaming Classic WoW has ever seen.
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Phase 2 was more of a cataclysm than the 3rd expansion. These are the most sane MMO players.
So true. I'm getting ptsd of Blackrock Mountain. It was crazy lol.
fucking rofl
@@warbuddy3143 strangelthorn Vale literal modern day vietnam
@@warbuddy3143 Literally took like 20 minutes just to zone into BRM
Sane? care to explain?
Phase 2 was absolutely insane. People would go to crazy lengths to hunt honor in the open world. The real problem was corpse camping levelling lowbies 48-59, especially in searing gorge where people couldn't play their characters at all, so many players especially alliance quit during this period because the game was completely unplayable for them. But there were also ganking posses who would roam the higher level zones killing anyone they rode past like some Wild West, you'd just be farming herbs and suddenly you're set apon by the biggest bullies in town.
I quit classic whenever ganking gets too bad. I just end up having this realization that I'm sitting here being inconvenienced for no reason when I could be doing anything else. Then a while down the line I'll end up coming back and the cycle repeats itself.
I wouldn't even consider it pvp, most of the time it's just straight up greifing quests or other Bs. Everyone I know plays on PvP servers so I can't really go on PvE if I wanna play with them.
This is such a funny image, imagine you're minding your business doing some lite farming then the Four Horsemen come out of nowhere and massacre you
@@Dom-zy1qy pvp on a pvp server
There was a private server I was on that died, the ganking got so bad most of the alliance quit and it fell apart. Westfall was impossible to do anything.
I was leveling a warrior already which was hard enough but as soon as i got into burning steppes it was a fucking blood bath.
Sweatiest time in wow history period honestly. Perfect storm with covid. The honor grind + the AQ event + covid. Absurd. And world buffs
Even though I wasn't that sweaty, I had a good time overall. Good memories. Hope I have more similar gamer experiences in the future.
November 2019. 4 weeks of utter hell for any alliance on majority of servers. Snowball effect of faction imbalance. Real world feel of about 1:5 ratio for the average solo player. 45 min corpse run from TP to brd entrance. Fucking aweful game during those times.
@@PretentiousD dont play alliance then those time were the best
@@JR-gv9fy nice one, mate
world buffs are awful.
One of my favorite memories from any video game was playing AV for 3 hours, working a 9 hour shift, coming home to the same BG, playing, sleeping, waking up to... the same match of AV. So much fun!! (This was retail Vanilla)
As a Gen 1 R14 Undead Rogue, you set your hearth in Kargath, ran to Ironforge and then waited for your queue, I mean by the time the queue popped 2 hours later, your hearthstone would be back up so no problems queuing from Orgrimmar :)
Nuts dude. Back in the day (mid 2000s) when I saw people High Warlord or had Thunderfury, it just seemed so insanely unattainable to me. While Classic was good, it just wasn't quite the same as the original..
we qued in Darn and flew to winterspring. Also with two of us being mages we could drop the ports before we tore the whole town up then take them.
Oh boy this video doesn't even go in depths into how crazy the top 1 or 2 discord honor groups were! Let me tell you...
I was put into a group called "6 minute queue". A pretty exclusive high end selection of those in the upper couple brackets on Alliance side. To get in, you had to provide screenshots of your UI, addons, weak auras, gear, proof of engineering, talent build and honor ranking. If interested, they had a person personal invite you to group and inspect you. You had to prove you had all engineering recipes they deemed necessary, which included a gnomish to goblin releveling for all required tinkers and items.
We also didn't just queue if we had 20+ people. We would go only 28+ people, with a minimum requirement of having at least 3 mages, 4 rogues, 4 healers, and at bare minimum 10 warriors. The discord invitations were sent out proportional to these standards. We had predetermined strategies as to who would be in which tower, flag, commanders, etc. down to an exact science. Mages were tasked specifically to be "suicide kamikazes" to AOE snare or root any who would try to slow our pathing. Rogues would bullrush West/East tower, warriors were a massive unit split into killing all NPCs necesarry before waiting for Drek kill. Hunters and Warlocks were assigned tower defense, with Rogues as backup.
Typically these games lasted exactly 6 minutes long (hence the discord name). They were EXTREMELY low tolerance for failure. Didn't keep up with the whole premade riding to objective? Kicked. Lost a flag or tower without well advanced callout notice? Kicked. Been inactive for a couple days? Kicked.
We had dozens of times where horde would realize some of our names as proceed to attempt to 40man turtle defend at their base from start, but against 30 sappers going off at the same time and raid leaders that acted militant in nature, they had zero chance at defense.
This got even more degenerate when the Paladin trick to kite all generals surrounding Drek was found out. Now the requirement was for a Paladin to perfectly kite with a select group around the horde waterfall and base grounds while we killed Drek in as little as 4 MINUTES! Yes you heard that right. Imagine 40 people just bum rushing straight to Drek. Paladin keeps aggro and kites the adds, and we kill it. We would laugh and couldn't imagine horde waiting 1hr+ to lose before they could even cap their first bunker and get 0 hks.
I personally for this time period played 16-18 hours a day, 7 days a week. Yet I still saw many who played even MORE than me consistently. It was so insane to hear their stories. One man left his wife over her nagging about him playing 18hrs/day. Others told me they dropped out of their college semester to ensure rank 14. A few quitting their job or taking a leave of absence. The list goes on and on. Many of them would make references to Adderrall and other stimulant street drugs to keep them going, saying it was too hard to play without for 20/hrs a day. As mentioned, they would buy other accounts and be spam multiboxing the closest graveyard outside Ironforge with low level toons to increase the bracket size. As casual players stopped playing PvP, this demand grew more and more to absolute absurd levels with thousands of accounts and hundreds of lowbie toons farming at a time to attempt to maintain rank 14 bracket size.
The irony? I don't know a single one of these players that still plays the game today. Many of them streamed to very few or no viewership outside those outside the discord. None on.
I personally didn't even hit rank 14 I stopped at rank 13 as those who hit 14 before me in WSG premades left and I was unable to make a full new 10man premade dedicated team and had zero financial resource nor willpower left in my soul to make alts myself to try to keep the bracket sizing where it was. Around this time the server became medium population and we didn't even have enough players for even 1 person to get rank 14 bracket.
I don't regret my decision at all. I actually enjoyed most of my time in Alterac Valley and still look back on it all with good memories. Hanging out with the same 80-120 players you really had this absurd yet fun "110hr raids" a week with a bunch of degenerate friends. Take the good times you have chatting while raiding 3-6 hours a week, and multiply that to 110 hours a week. Truly the craziest shit I've ever done, but also the most fun I've ever had in WOW. Seeing 30 sappers kill 40 horde in a single second. Seeing 30 battle chickens spawned to help kill Drek.
I was in those premades, occasionally we had to perform a triangle middle pattern that’s all I remember it being called and I was one of those suicidal frost mages that would bum rush into the horde and freeze and slow as many as I could it was like you said 18 or so hours a day and I distinctly remember not joining any game with less than 20 or so AMAZING TIME IMO
Amazing write up! I did about 8 hours a day often and consider myself mad now. It was great fun except that the 'nagging wife' actually was the same one 😆
it’s hard to believe how much something so fleeting mattered at one time , for a short time. The memories, though, are forever.
The AV premade discords were the best times I had in classic. I remember the one day "Madseason" even showed up (verified) and sweat along with us. I was able to make it to rank 12 on my druid before the system was changed and will hold on to those memories for a long time to come. Great video as always WillE.
Marshals discords, some good leads in those premades.
I WAS RUNNIN WITH SWIFTY AND BAJ IN THE DISCORDS IT WAS COOL
worst time ever in classic. that shit wasn't fun at all.
@@cococock2418 easy fix dont play it lol. play a different game.
I got a kill on Madseason as he tried to charge over the farm bridge!
Thanks for doing these "documentary" videos. I searched for something like that a few months ago and couldnt find anything , good to see someone is keeping record of the events on classic
It was a hell of an experience.
agreed
@@travismancour8538 Oh yeah it was, and it would never be the same a second time around, it was a lifetime occurrence
When you say "classic" do you mean vanilla or that godawful mockery up for sale now?
@@krodmandoon3479 not sure what do you mean by that, but this level of min maxing degeneracy only existed on classic (2019 re-release)
I stopped the video and shed a tear when I saw the name "Madseason" on the bracket list :')
We all miss you dude and hope that you're doing just fine!
Reminds me of my experience in phase 2, The axe that chopped the head off of every one of my friends levelling characters at the time
Except me
I'm not sure why, but as a lone level 45 warrior I played (irregularly) through the entirety of phase 2. No gold, no flight paths, no boats and no more friends online, It was a disaster through and through, I was on the outnumbered faction and barely made it into the low 50s by the time it was over.
But it truly was a sight to behold, and I knew at the time that there will be nothing quite like it again, so I at least can look back on it with a strange sort of fondness years later.
Exactly what happened to me, i stopped at 46 in the middle of p2. My dwarf warrior is still parked in STV and the entirety of that server is like 99% horde now lol
Me too, I was in STV 40 something. All my friends dropped the game. I dropped couple weeks later because the server just died for non 60, I couldn’t level outside, and couldn’t form a party because everyone in that level bracket quit.
I only came back when naxx was announced. I was happy to do everything but naxx, but phase 2 was a disaster for most people.
I’m sure some sweaties remember this time with fondness but for many people it was the end of classic and the end of wow altogether.
Happened to me as well. I was with a level 60 friend who was helping to escort me into Searing Gorge for a quest to get a trinket. I needed something from a tree log there and he figured I might as well grab the flightpath, but I was too low level to survive the mobs there, being something like late level 30's.
He got beat up by a druid and a rogue and I was sure I was going to be next, but they just buggered off and left me alone. Happened two more times on the way to the flightpath, as well. They probably didn't want to bother with me because I wasn't worth any honor to them at that level. They could have spite killed me for no reason other than shits and giggles, but I guess they didn't care about that.
Gotta admire human ingenuity. People always find a way around things
For the smallest of gains, addicted beyond reason :D
Phase 2 was not during the Covid shut down. Covid shut downs started early spring 2020 phase 2 ended in January.
Yeah that bugged me as well. At least where I lived lockdowns started around early March. I mean people were still busy ranking, but the Southshore vs Tarren Mill was during November If I remember correctly
Covid or not, nerds are on lockdown everyday of the year mate.
Covid rules weren’t the same everywhere.
Yes the timeline doesnt add up
@@robertp457 doesnt matter. His timeline is months off. Even in China covid was largely an unknown during phase 2.
I was there in both original Vanilla and in Classic. Indeed, ranking was MEMORABLE. On Classic I was an Undead Priest named Sarang on Ashbringer EU, and I have too many memories to count. Prior to BG's being launched, the World PvP gankage was insane. Luckily I was level 60 already, and we were HUNGRY for each and every little point of honor. We camped Alliance flightpaths like our lives depended on it.
Once AV launched though, yep, Alliance was dominant with their instant queues and Discord. Still had amazing fun though running from our queueing zone in Alterac Mountains to EPL to kill low leveling Alliance while waiting for the queue to pop. I even met a Night Elf Hunter from another server in AV whose name was also Sarang! Needless to say, we spared each other and emoted til the sun started to rise. Some of the best memories for sure, even if Alliance was more efficient.
I personally CANNOT wait for a new FRESH Classic Server as I will be gunning for that R13 or even 14 as last time I quit at R10 because of the sweatiness, but this time I'm determined to scartch that item off my bucket list once and for all.
I'd love to have a history video of the infamous Peacebloom War that was fought on the EU server of Zandalar Tribe. Let me know if you need any info on that for a video.
i want info
@@pagecreator6545 So, very brief...
Zandalar Tribe was a RP-PvP server where the Alliance was in the majority. On all other servers the Horde was dominant and grieving so to compensate the Alliance quite literally bullied the Horde players on ZT. One Alliance hardcore guild in particular, Praxis, tried to bring all of the Alliance guilds together to bully Horde players. For example, on all raid nights BRM was a giant gank spot and us Hordes always had to corpserun our way inside.
The hardcore guild Praxis tried to go for speedruns on raid releases, including a record attempt for AQ40. So when phase 4 started the Horde retaliated by actively NOT handing in war effort materials. One of these was the peacebloom which became the symbol of the retaliation.
This is very brief, if you look up "peacebloom war" on RUclips you'll find a couple of videos explaining it in more detail. It was an epic live event that I'll never forget.
No one gives a shit about EU.
i cant wait for classic+. grinding r14 in classic was a torture, but the most memorable time for me. cant wait to do it again
COVID didn’t happen until 2020 @WillE phase 2 was in 2019 and it was amazing because people played willingly and I had a lot of guildies tha quit their jobs on phase 2 release truly an experience
"I had a lot of guildies tha quit their jobs on phase 2 release" What in the actual fuck?
@@seanwilliams7655 ya some of them quit to get r14 and play all day before holidays
@@Legolasnight1 And yet not one person on this planet cares about their gear lmao.
@@SuperYtc1 as long as they care, i doubt they care about your opinion. Unless you think gear is a way to show off instead of improving your character. For warriors/rogues the GM weapons were bis for at least 10 months
I did the rank14 grind in classic and i have to say it was by far the best gaming experience that i've ever had. Not only the friends you made a long way for me it was the pvp itself too with having sweaty wsg premade vs premade games and going for open world pvp in queues and ofc griefing players with world buffs :)
Back then it seemed everyday a lvl 50 something rage quit for being farmed. I literally didn't leave SW except to raid. So glad I had farmed gold before hand.
While doing this in Vanilla it did help a lot of rankers at that time get our conqueror title come TBC given how much we were in there 😅
Rank 14 grind at the time was brutal and mind-numbing, looking back it was likely the best gaming experience ive ever had. The real reward from ranking was the friends made along the way.
the sense of satisfaction one got from doing these is just hardly ever reached. Getting in a guild, meeting friends, jumping on vent (Disc now lol). It was such a great experience.
I hated the PVP grind so much at the time and just wanted to get it over with. But looking back at the hours I spent doing it, meeting people, working to a common goal.. it was a good time.
That was great. The memories of me, and some friends to this very day grinding to rank 14 in vanilla will never be forgotten. I was one of very few Grand Marshal Merciless Gladiators.. talk about sweat to get rank 14 in vanilla and rank 1 in Arena season 2. Just wished you could wear both titles ;)
And the points per week were no joke - we literally had a queue of who would hit rank 14 and what week lol
Ah phase 2. I remember it fondly. It was the hell on earth we needed to appreciate what we had before and after.
Anyone remember how badly Horde would turtle towards the end of the AV discord meta? I remember waves of undead frost mages dive bombing us with their AV trinkets.
NOW DO THIS BUT ON THE AQ40 OPENING EVENT!!! Very substantial topic with a lot of horde/alliance collusion! In the 2 weeks it lasted, most of the horde on my server became sell-sword mercenaries that teamed up with certain alliance guilds to help them secure bug tags from other alliance guilds. It was crazy to see horde and alliance working together in the open world so fluently. Easily one of my favorite memories from classic!!!
Oh man that was the best part of all of classic. I probably never want to do that again, but the amount of degeneracy that went into our guild's scarab mount was insane. People pulling back to back to back 18 hour shifts in the bug fields, shooting the shit on discord in shared misery. I'll never forget it, legitimately a cherished memory that I'll hold onto forever.
Great video but your timeline was a bit off. The PVP honor system dropped in fall 2019 while the rona lockdowns didn't hit hard until right before ZG launched
Such fun times when Bgs were not out but open world PvP was how you got honor. Mad times.
Certainly a unique time. The fun of it depended entirely on your realm balance though. Which was extremely scewed on the overwhelming majority of realms.
@@thefilth7368 true, i was on one of the most balanced pvp server back then, Ashbringer. It was around 50-50, maaaan it was such a great time
I was on Deviate Delight, RP/PVP and I literally RPwalked through phase 2. I died A LOT. But you know what, it made me so determined, that over 3 years later, I've downed every single Raid, instance, dungeons, required rep grinds, gear grinds and required quests, all RPwalking in both Classic and TBC, I'm still leveling in Wrath, but I promise you, this game is gonna be beaten by a gnome that never ran.
“The game was better in Vanilla”
So glad we don’t hear this constantly anymore.
Most Classic Rank grinds happened before covid. Covids major sweep happened in 2020
This brings back memories I really have been watching you since classic or rather the your class guides for classic before launch lol
When Phase 2 started, I was around level 44, leveling my druid. When I flew to southshore to head into the hinterlands, it was a god damn bloodbath. It took me nearly an hour (even with macro shape-shifting into stealth) to escape the carnage. Once I hit level 48 a couple days later, I could feel it. The horde smelled meat, and boy were they hungry. The next couple levels in the Hinterlands were **brutal**, as level 60 horde players kept roaming the area, killing any non 60 they could find. I chose that zone specifically because it was big and had the least amount of players. My only saving grace was I could stealth, and usually the enemy couldn't see me in stealth, so they would leave out of frustration.
When I hit level 52 ish and decided to try my hand at BRD, it was awful. I knew it would be chaos incarnate, and I waited until a group was willing to summon me because I was not running the death gauntlet (tank privilege, come at me). Even exiting the dungeon as a group to reset was risky, as there would just be mountains of people outside tearing each other apart.
I miss those days, but god damn it was annoying.
I had the same experience brother, it was one hell of a ride. I actually would fly to redridge and just peacefully stealth walk my ass all the way up to BRD, enjoying the scenery along the way. I'd still beat people who took a more direct path on mounts, lmao. And the memory of sheer bliss once we'd zone into BRD, knowing the bloodbath that awaited on the other side of that portal was something else.
I miss it. It'll never be the same, that was a moment in time I'll never forget.
I'm not proud to say I made it thru the ranks in the first few batches of rankers while somehow working a 50-60 hour a week job that had me playing from hotel wifi Monday-Friday. I miss those people though
It was a wild fuckin time
A brotherhood was forged forsure
You were not working a 60 hour week.
@Uranus I was, that was why being a shadow priest was glorious. Didn't need 14 only 13.
@@SuperYtc1 It was COVID lockdown period, he was "working at home" whilst playing WoW.
"good at creating stories." That, right there, is the soul of a great game.
This is a good video. Got to say this video gave me a lot of nostalgia. I ranked in Classic multiple times on my server Earthfury. Horde and later alliance. First of all, I LOVED the world PVP phase 2 on my 45% horde 55% ally server as a horde. That was awesome and I'll have memories of that forever as I still do with Vanilla before BGs. Beyond that, I loved ranking like I really loved it. It was all much more than the PVP, because of the complex social dynamics. The community you worked with and built of PVPers, the drama, working with sleep-deprived people who could get very emotional a lot of the time, learning these complicated math equations involving RP and bracket slots. You having a good social IQ and knowing how to work with and negotiate with others got you ahead. For that matter when things went rogue your ability to trick others got you ahead. Truthfully it added a whole other deep layer to the game that I've never seen ever again in this game or any other that I've played... and I binged the hell out of it. Covid restrictions helped... in the end, I had 3 rank 14s and 1 rank 13 (three of them did not require too crazy of a grind but did involve the other things I mentioned, I kept working my 40-hour job the whole time and I have a family too) and it was all because I had a lot of fun, not for the titles that now mean nothing or really even the gear. it was for being part of that crazy and very complex drama-filled social environment. The only part I didn't like about this all is what I call "the dark days of AV" referenced in the video before a lot of the 6-minute ally premade got broken. Things were better before with the world PVP and after with the premade teams in WSG and later AB. Anyway, I made some long-lasting friends over it who I still talk to. Most people if they read this probably think that I'm nuts but that's ok, I had my fun, and many memories.
I joined a pvp raid group back in original vanilla and it was pretty sweaty too, i remember helping a mage friend that was pushing to r14 and i would play on daytime and he would play all night, there was some drama and stuff but not even close to this level lol
I ranked to 11:00 on horse side through no pre-maids at all on both original vanilla and classic the shifting AV meta was a blast even the times when we would face the pre-made Alliance teams throwing a wrench into their plans was some of the best times
Horse side pre-maids? What kind of weird furry fetish mmo were you playing, mate?
Love this video. Got myself rank 11 on my troll priest…. Stood next to the AH as the chanter for the server the wholeee day all’s at. Also got my Bachelor’s degree on my other monitor haha great times.
I was a part of the initial honor grind. On my server we went off of an honor system (hehe), Everyone that wanted to grind for rank 14 we would invite to a group first and fill with other guildies/strong friends. It took me the better part of 3-6 months to get it because we all took turns getting R14 and never passed the selected person on honor while the others did just enough to fall in the top 3 until they reached R14 (there was sometimes an anomaly that tried to go awol but thankfully most could be talked down before doing dmg). To get R14 you had to be #1 or #2 to go up in rank. #3 did not go up that much but you had to put in the work 12-16 hours a day to keep your place in line. If you slacked you would get passed so others could go up in rank and you had to be rank 1 or 2 on the server for four weeks from R13 to R14 because we had so few alliance and our Q times in AV ran from 1-16hours. Phase 2 sounds like you had a lot more going against you so i must commend anyone that made it through that nightmare. My feelings after reaching R14 were much the same as you described in the video. Cheers for nostalgia and i still have pictures from back then :)
This was the first time that I played the old-school pvp honor system in Classic WoW and to be honest - I might get hated for this - but personally, I think it's the best. I miss old Alterac Valley; just fighting in an endless battle against the other faction. It was the best Immersion. I feel like getting a new rank every few weeks was the most progressive experience I had (getting Commander or Marshal felt incredible). So the moment when I got R14, it was honestly the best moment of classic IMO. To be fair, it was very tedious and a lot of grinding and is something I wouldn't do again in my life. I'm glad I can get to chill with wrath pvping now as I really enjoy just playing casually atm. Overall, I think Vanilla pvp is pretty decent despite it's very demanding grind and phase 2. Phase 2 was very awful on pvp servers.
I STILL take out my repressed rage whenever I can, shouting "REMEMBER PHASE TWO" and ganking the shit out of the horde. What an insane time. There was some absolutely glorious moments in between the pain however.
Amen
Imagine starting classic in WOTLK as a horde player and getting charged by some Verteran with PTSD yelling some borderline incomprehensible shit about phase 2.
@@Dudebro665 ROFL, fuck I actually work with a lot of people with PTSD and this made me laugh so hard. Never thought of it that way. Shit, I'm perpetuating the cycle of trauma!
@@Norrieification You're like the grandpa who still hates germans with a passion, lol.
@@heygek2769 What can we say? We weren't there.
phase 2 was the most fun time in a MMO ive had. The world felt alive!!
Lucifron EU was literally the apocalypse for Alliance as we were outnumbered by 70/20 and later 80/20. It took me over 30 minutes of dying and running to my corpse to get from town to BRD.
"Alive" meanwhile Alliance players dead on the floor:
Love a good old history lesson. Cheers mate
I definitely agree that classic/vanilla WoW was amazing at creating stories because of things like this. But at same time it created some really toxic environments to play in. I had to transfer from Faerlina to a PvE server because getting ganked for hours on end was destroying any joy I had for the game. Also, minor thing but Covid lockdowns didn't really start until March of 2020.
Yeah it wasnt during the covid peak. The worst month of the game was November to december 2019. No bgs and total farming of any alliance (most servers). Fkn aweful memories haha
@@PretentiousD I got fired from my job November 2019 and instead of getting upset, i got ecstatic because it meant I had all the time to grind rank 14(i got to rank 10 and called it quits)
maybe you guys will get classic classic soon :D
I still say that out of all the expansions, I really love the PVP ranking system in legion. Only because you get honor and honor Works kind of like experience points and it's an exponential amount that you need to get to get to higher levels. But you get rewards for every level special PVP only talents
Good times ❤
I was never a PvP player...but I found this video FASCINATING! Great work!
Phase 2 was by far my most favorite Classic WoW memory. Awesome work covering this historic gaming moment WillE !
as someone who just started to play wow like 3 months ago and have no idea how things were back then, I find this video very interesting. thanks for the "history' lesson.
18 minutes of pure content? No beating around the bush repeating themselves a bunch of times? Not 3 minutes of shouting out your own products or other brands? Fucking love me some WillE videos
I was part of a group that disrupted the normal Grand Marshall group that were taking turns passing GM. We got this Pally named Behemoth on Dragonmaw-US to keep the GM title for a month. The server was not happy with us.
I remember being alliance and getting absolutely oblitirated every single AV where horde would choke you out over like a 40min+ game. It was a horrid experience grinding honor.
I remember going hard on AV grind for my mage - but even working from home, the fact that I had a job basically eliminated me from getting past rank 10. I would work all day, log on, AV until I went to sleep, more on weekends - and still couldn't break into the top 20% for honor earned on any given week. The grind from 10 to 12 would have taken months at that pace.
But it was fun repeatedly smashing Alliance in AV. Which, based on TBC and WotLK, might be the last time horde won any battleground. Ever.
I played alliance on a PVP server where we were outnumbered 2:1
It was the best and the worst time of all classic. I played druid, and could stealth my way around. I was about level 55 when phase 2 hit. Oh man was it rough. I'd fly to redridge so I could stealth my way into BRD, and I'd get there faster than my friends on mounts who couldn't stealth who landed in searing gorge.
It was awful. But the memories of what lengths we went to in order to avoid getting murdered by rogues were fantastic. The memory of the entire alliance getting sick of being bullied, grouping up in ironforge, and sending four full raid teams to take and occupy blackrock mountain and hold it against the horde for an hour and a half one fateful phase 2 sunday night is something I will remember for the rest of my life.
Man classic wow was a hell of a ride.
I remember a guy in my guild was multiboxing upwards of 30-35 accounts just to bracketboost. He would even sell his service to other servers/Factions so they could add more bracket 1 spots. Can't say I miss the "mandatory" event, making lvl 1s and run them to Razor Hill to help my guldies who were ranking.
Phase 2 was fun in the beginning, running around in groups fighting the other faction, but it mostly favored the bigger number of players, at least my server was pretty much 50/50 balanced.
Got a huge respect for the ones who actually managed to reach rank 14, probably the biggest achievement one can get in WoW. The dedication you need for weeks/months is insane. I myself managed only rank 10 before I got burned out, even though it was a bit after the sweatiest had gotten their rank 14.
best of times. hanging out with the boys in winterspring, skirmishing with a rival alliance guild. none of us took ranking seriously and it was just great to feel like the world is actually alive with faction pvp. shame it all died when bgs came out though.
I feel like this could only exist for a couple of weeks. If phase 2 lasted any longer without battleground there would have been a lot more dead servers. It lasted just enough to bless us with memories that'll last us forever.
When I had about 20 hours of AV grind and lost rank, thats when I gave up.
This is going to sound kinda insane. On US Skeram one guy did all the adding players to que for the entire server. He managed to get skerams horde side pool to 25k for a one week. You could get rank 13 pretty easily for a few months before blizz shut him down. Rank 14 was still kinda sweaty.
God I remember phase 2. All I was trying to do was level up and finish quests but my gear was so poor and I didn't have all my spell ranks at that point (about lvl 50) I was just being farmed constantly. Trying to mind my own business. I got desperate and bought invis potions to go to my quest point but that didn't work either because people were also farming wherever any of my quests were. Talk about frustrating it was just a greasy, sweaty moment in history.
i was a 55 or so warrior when this dropped... holy shit, i almost changed to a PvE server, but i kept going, then... my guild was the last one to transfer from Thalnos when it died... a good times, sadly, after vanilla, i tried TBC but thats when it died for me... well, it started to die since before because GDKP... fucking hated that...
The time when honor was released and bgs werent stands out to me as the pinnacle of what an MMO can be. I was lucky enough to be on a 60/40 server and we had some intense battles between horde and alliance. Truly spectacular.
My rank 14 grind was a nightmare though. I was a horde solo player for the most part. We definitely did queue AV then fly somewhere else. Eventually I stopped doing BGs because alliance was so heavy on premades the honor was just better to sit in menethil harbor in stealth and 1v1 anyone i could find. I was unlucky in a number of ways, accidentally getting a dishonorable kill in Maradon helping a friend, catching a 1 week ban for AFKing in AVs (you absolutely had to AFK inside a BG to maximize gains, when you needed to make food or take a quick shower or something IRL), and then accidentally crossing the honor cap and getting punished by the elites who controlled such matters. All in all I spent probably 2 or 3 months straight grinding for rank 14, and eventually had to give up at warlord as me and my gf at the time were getting sick of the all-day-every-day requirement....
i still regret not finishing it. dont give up on your dreams! no matter the setbacks!
I did the HWL grind,and yep it was during the covid lockdown, i wouldnt have done it without it. Even still the grind was awful
I ranked to 14 during the pandemic in NA Kurinnaxx server, I had a bracket breaker go over the amount of honor points to screw some guy I was ranking with because he hated the guy so much, which consequently made me play a full day 24 hrs Straight! in order to keep up with the guy gone rogue. Was it worth it you ask? The answer was no, lol but I will never forget.
full engi group with the stealth detection goggles / rocket helm, cats eye elixir and a felhunter camping BRM entrance. nobody escaped us, p2 was some of the most fun i've ever had in wow :)
I was ranking on the first wave of ranking; it happened during the first year of Covid too. Only got my step on rank 12; week's cap was 1.8 mil on Fairbank, couldn't keep it up - trollogist, Hunter - Fairbank- ALLY
Got to rank 12 solo as a warrior by the end of Vanilla Classic. Was rank 11 back in original Vanilla.
Doubt I'd be able to touch ranking again, way too tedious, yet I am glad I was able to experience that again.
I'd like to think that on a Discord somehwere, after a 12-week 16-hour-a-day grind, someone said:
"What shall we do now?"
"What do you mean? Now we can finally play the game".
I remember doing AV's as I'm in Zoom meetings for work.. The hardest part of ranking was dealing with the other people once you hit them r12/R13 and need the top rp
I was dungeon farming zul’farrak for gold back in phase 2. everytime i went out to reset i could die. Once i had been locked out, i had to port to SW, sell my stuff, list things on AH etc, and hs back to tanaris, die 2-3 times on the way back to the dungeon, and Repeat.
Mad times, but funny to think about.
Pserver players warned Blizzard of this too, that is why Pservers launched with the honor system out and then added the battlegrounds later. Suddenly adding the honor system months after people have leveled creates pure chaos.
I got to Marshal in Wow Classic (The new one, not the original) and there were a lot of people who made it to Grand Marshal.
I think this time around, it was easier because it was much more organized. There was a Discord for it where people could buy slots, organize and plan promenades and so fourth.
I myself just wanted to get to Commander for the mount. Once I did, I was 1/2 in so I decided to go just one more for the Marshal Rank and some PVP gear.
I finished just time time as well, it was basically when the whole Grand Marshal Race was dying out and there were barely any groups running anymore.
I want SoM 2.
I was there 3000 years ago...
Both in Vanilla and Classic. The release of PvP was so much fun, batteling in Terren Mill. But yeah, I remember the tryhards and hardcore grinders. I only did PvP for fun and not the ranks, and sometimes got yelled at for doing that cause I could potentially screw up their grind
Covid Grand Marshal here 😎 the mos fun I’ve ever had on WoW with my premade group. We had bracket breakers and all the typical drama along the way. Most fun I will ever have on WoW tbh, been downhill since.
The classic community was the perfect example of "This is why we can't have nice things"
I did the Grand Marshal grind in vanilla as a shadow priest, it was HORRENDOUS. Instead of working cooperatively, the two teams would just work against each other and knock each other out of the rankings, so you would have no idea if you would make any progress at all that week. Towards the end of my rank 13 week I think I slept about 3hrs night and at one point had a buddy of mine play my character for a few hours so I could go to sleep because I was becoming physically unwell.
At least in classic the players had the good sense to organize a ranking system among each other and had weekly caps but even then it was still ridiculous. This time around I only went to R11 and then called it quits.
PvP was such a big deal back then in Vanilla. If you got R14 with that shiny gear everyone knew about it, you were server famous since there were so few. R14's in Classic just like Scarab Lords were lots, nobody was excited about seeing it and most I believe sold their accounts and quit the game.
The sweatiness is what made classic fun af
Titles.
Great loot even at rank 5 and crucial offhand etc from AV.
Having this stuff out you ahead, I got awarded Mageblade in my guild loot council because of having an epic OH already.
Decay was huge.
It was fun in an insanely bad way.
I'd never do it again but getting to Commander was a real achievement
I was leveling an alt when phase 2 hit. I kid you not, as a lvl 49 mage, I specifically remember that from the moment I landed on searing gorge to join my mates in BRD boosting, it took me 1 hour and 15 mins to get inside brd. No fucking joke.
As somebody who got rank 14 during the COVID pandemic peak, I can certainly tell you that it was no joke... I had to take power naps in between AV queues just to keep on going, but the worst part were the politics involved, constantly worrying about people's honor gain every week. There was always somebody who tried to get ahead right at the end to screw with the rankings so they could finish faster. 4 months of this BS but I'm glad I got it out of my mind. It's something I tried back in 2005/2006 and never was able to achieve. Rich people handed over their accounts to Chinese farmers to farm honor instead of gold and paying them real money for it, so they were playing 24/7. Sweaty doesn't even cut it.
What a waste of time, hope you at least sold your toon for some $ or somethin otherwise you basically worked 12 hour shifts in a virtual world for nothing, I bet no one even remembers your toons name in-game or cares lol
"worked 12 hour shifts' bud we're playing a video game here.. lmao why sell the account after putting in that much effort for a prestige title. he got his worth out of it, he got his r14 the whole reason he started the grind 🥴
@@Fedshmoka Nah, still playing, still going strong. Wrath is great. As I stated above, it was during the COVID pandemic lockdown, in which people could only go to the nearby supermarkets to get the food needed, otherwise pretty much imprisoned at home for months. Perfect timing to nerd it out big time. Perhaps a big fat waste of time, but I think watching TV in bed while covered in cheeto dust would have been worse. It's not like there were many other options at the time while in furlough.
I was rank 11 until i lost my account due to multiboxer. Your accomplishments dont matter to me mate. You are just as trash as i am, brothakilla.
@@GnomePower1000 I have never been banned for cheating so nope, you are on your own in the garbage bin.
I got to be leader for my ranking group and being a ranking human warrior with bonereaver while telling people what to do and they did it and on top of that WINNING those battlegrounds against other premades all of which leading to a 1v1 for BS against a rank 14 tauren shaman (the direct counter to a warrior) who was leading his own premade and beating him 1v1 will always be the best memory I have of classic wow and just be blissful to remember
I was on the faction minority side at level 50-ish when phase 2 launched. Given it was Shazzrah, a notorious PvP Server on EU, I had an awful time and quit classic altogether because of it. Came back very late into vanilla classic only to see Alliance at .1% of the total population.
I made it to rank 11 and it was so much fucking fun, getting well known and having people want you in their premades because I was just destroying people. Would consistently go 30-0 + in games. Get full world buffs and not get killed for 2 hours + was so much fucking fun
great video, brought up a lot of fond memories
I remember back in classic, during summer vacation and a 2 weeks sick period at home, as a young teenage boy, i did nothing but grind pvp on my rogue solo. Eventually, after week 5 and 6, i got whispers from random people who i never heared of, that i am a loser, pathetic or worse. I had no clue whats going on, i did not know about most addons or the WoW systems... i was just playing the game. So i ignored the people writing me and just continued. Eventually however school started again and i stopped the grind, that was when the whispers got less.
YEARS later i found out about the bracket system and the honor grind to rank 14.
Main thing I remember from BC was how many times alliance and horde did raids on the others bases to kill the leader. No flying in the old world.
The journey there was as fun as the battle into the others capital.
In my last two or three weeks most of sleep i got was in AV que, at that time it was a bit over 1h for horde so I would set alarm to wake me after 29 minutes than I just move my char (30 minutes was afk kick from game) and go sleep again for another 29 min, thats when I wake up and AV pop in few minutes.
We had breaker it was hell to rank up but I have to say it was one of the best experiences in my life, met some good people and now I really miss all of that fun we had.
Ranking in P3 are some of my fondest memories of Classic. Made alot of friends.... and enemies. It was an experience for sure.
I did this in vanilla, was actually in a pvp guild we just ran presets every day, our guild usually had 16 out of 20 of the top RP Earners every week, when a guildie hit rank 14 they stepped back and let others get into the top 20 spot, we pretty much controlled who got the highest ranks on our server, was a super fun time, all the top raiding guilds wanted to come pvp with us when they werent raiding, even though they werent pvp geared they used to come in some of the best raid gear available at the time, this was such a crazy grind but it was one of the most fun experiences i can remember, my shaman got rank 13, i gave up on rank 14 as i did not need the weps, as an ele shammy the AB epic staff was better then the HWL weps.
I was a level 53 Horde player on Herod when the honor system got released. Thankfully we had Gor'shak (I'm not proud that I used that exploit to level but it was better than not being able to play)
I did next to no pvp during Vanilla but during Classic I had to isolate for a few weeks due to Covid and decided to go for it. Managed to hit Rank 12 on my druid. Must be an absolute pain in the ass trying to get R14
Oh and i was unemployed and just lived the game, oh it was such a terrifying since Wow took you're soul with that decay...
Tarren Mill was really good in the first few weeks. On pve servers, it was better all round as you could raid, quest and travel easily. Pool boosting was bonkers too
Tarren Mill was THAT good even in the Beta.
they had just added Hunters; and they would run off with 2 dots on them and die
but I got Shackled a few times
Shazzrah EU had caps of 2.2-2.4 million honor a week (with battlegrounds, obviously). It was nuts.
7:10 Pshero was one of those who accidentally broke the bracket and he got like 1 extra month of ranking because people just sat the cap above him (premade vs solo go figure)
I remember getting level 60 in a haste cause I knew phase 2 was gonna be insane - it was fun for me on alliance faerlina
bruh, phase 2 vanilla classic was the most fun I've ever had in any version of wow hands down. I would do classic vanilla all over again maybe in a few years.
I love how we're getting nostalgic about Vanilla Classic now.
Yeah well too bad the game unplayable due to trash community and massreporters. Hope it dies mate :))
@@GnomePower1000 it's perfectly playable mate I'm playing it right now :)
14:00 We did this to grind Bloodthirsty between wrath and mop over Ventrilo. We'd call queue pop and if a majority of us got a pop, we'd join. Isle of Conquest was so much fun in a full pre-made. Big shout out to Arthas-US from those days.
I made it to rank 14 just as AQ40 hit on Alliance and I was still having to play 10-12 hours a day but as a Paladin it was the only way to get gear for Ret (I was Holy during the grind). Our pre made played AB and we smashed most pre mades except for an Earthshaker pre made that ran 4-5 Elemental shamans - it was hell to try heal with the burst they had plus all of them using goblin sappers. Most pre mades would let whoever got 3 bases win to keep games fast so the initial fights at Blacksmith were super sweat.
-Erectile/Fantashtic, 60 Paladin, Gandling EU