Can you beat Zhang Fei at Changban Bridge?
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- Опубликовано: 8 сен 2024
- Ever faced a colossal warrior blocking your path on a massive bridge? If so, this video is for you. Join me as we relive one of Dynasty Warriors' most iconic moments: Zhang Fei's legendary stand at Changban Bridge.
In this episode, I take on Zhang Fei across Dynasty Warriors 2 to 9, assessing each game's portrayal of this epic clash. Which Dynasty Warriors game will offer the largest challenge? Will it be Dynasty Warriors 2? Will Dynasty Warriors 3 prove easier? Or will Dynasty Warriors 6 present the ultimate test?
I'll be tackling each battle with a level one character on normal difficulty, aiming not just to defeat Zhang Fei but to stop Liu Bei's escape as well. Bonus points for taking down peasants, of course.
Join me as I analyze each encounter, from gameplay mechanics and difficulty, to overall execution across the Dynasty Warriors series.
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Real reason Pewdiepie avoids bridges
You see its not the troll under the bridge, its a bearded drunkard man with a serpent pike from dw6 or dw2 on top of the bridge.
Zhang Fei kinda fit the criteria of his forbidden word.
@@JohnDog-bb4nr LMAO
"This bridge belongs to me and the toll for passage is death" is a great line
Now next, let's try either
-Guan Yu at Guandu
-Zhang Liao at Hefei
-Or Preventing the Fire Attack at Chibi
Oooo thanks for the ideas! I’m adding it to the list 😁
@@KoeiKollectionZhao Yun rescuing liu shan Chan ban. Another iconic moment in dynasty warriors.
i am wondering how difficult yi ling (shu) is in other titles...
my game was mainly DW3 and it was the hardest battle i can remember in the whole franchise...didnt play other titles that much so i dont remember yi ling, but i think i would if it was THAT hard...
in DW3 i ended up playing this stage on the hardest difficulty with shu over and over again, i had a blast with it... all allied officers dying in the first 5 minutes and then standing alone against the whole enemy army, in the end Zhuge Liang arriving and the music and battle changing from depressing to encouraging...
Zhang Liao on DW2 He Fei was a super boss of the series for sure.
What about Fan Castle as Guan Yu, or Xiahou Yuan at Mt. Ding Jun
There is a battle in DW8 Wei’s Story that IS similar to changban (and like why Changban wasn’t in the battle for Wei’s Story), but how the stage progresses is very similar to Changban. The battle is called “Pursuit at Nanjun” and Zhang Fei also defends the bridge in that battle too (only difference is that there’s an alternate path so the fight with Zhang Fei is optional) and the defeat condition is the same as in a changban stage as well.
In Dynasty Warriors 8, stages that are only playable with one force can be played from the other forces' POV through Free Mode. Chang Ban with Wei's forces can be played this way.
Most of them, but not all of them. I did just fire up my PS3 to check. Changban is not one of them.
@ShadowOfCicero I double checked it myself and you are correct. They never added the Wei version of Changban to DW8. They did, however, add an alternate version of it in Xtreme Legends called Clash at Changban. The fight on the bridge against Zhang Fei still occurs, but there aren't any cutscenes, unfortunately.
@@GDExodus I didn't realize any of the XL hypotheticals had a B-side. I'll have to check that out for myself.
@@GDExodus I can confirm
It really feels like it should be there, considering most levels unlock the other side for free mode after you clear them.
Hell, you unlock the pursue Sun Ce battle for Wei's forces, but not Chang Ban?
Oh god... i'm getting PTSD... his DW5 4th weapon requirement, which is a reenactment of Zhang Fei's Chang Ban bridge stand.. back when i did this as a teen/tween. They say you can do it in two-player... but no, i did it alone and i get the flashback that i said when i failed "even if a single pixel touches the bridge pixel, you fail the 4th weapon requirement, you lose... good day, sir."
You too?
@@coreywong6229 for real
An absolute treat of a video, always the best from KK! 🔥🔥
Thank you my friend, you’re too kind 🔥🫡
The two BEST warriors channels! Love y’all
@@brandino3381 ✊✊
this is one of the reasons why i love DW6. I started the DW series with DW6 and I remember how iconic was the soundtrack for Chang Ban. plus, i really love Zhang Fei's cutscenes (for me, DW6 has the best cutscenes throughout the whole series. Or maybe I'm just biased because of the nostalgic feeling)
Reason for Zhao Yun being crazy is that he also has one of his moments in this battle, he goes back solo in the middle of Cao Cao's army, not once, twice. To save Liu Shan. After which Liu Bei in a show of loyalty back, to his general, throws Liu Shan to the ground, lamenting how he would have lost a brother should he have died.
Edit: as soon as I wrote this I continued the video and you immediately say Zhao Yun has a moment in this battle. So I suppose my comment was not needed xD
DW2 was my first game i ever played on the PS2. I love that people still play it. I would love to play it one more time
Same for me, remembering have been playing it on the highest difficulty and it was a real pain. But for people ( including myself) who have been growing up with battletoads, alex the kid and all the games of nes, mega drive , master system it was ok difficult wise 😅
I remember really enjoying Chang Ban on the Shu side in DW3-5. It’s one of the few times that you feel that your allied officers did anything.
Watching the live adaptations e.g Three Kingdoms 2010 I reckon Zhao Yun was the bigger star of the Chang Ban battle, in fact he literally has multiple "Dynasty Warriors" moments in the show while the idea of Zhang Fei was to be a ploy to make Cao Cao think that there must be an ambush beyond the bridge given he was there alone, really worth checking out the live adaptions for a different perspective on the era.
The parry mechanic was indeed introduced back in DW4. It had invul frames (meaning you could phase through projectiles) during the proper counter window, and the hitboxes lasted throughout the entire animation even during recovery animation.
In 5, it got nerfed to have a bit more recovery on the whiff animation, most parry counter animations were changed and the hitbox no longer was active on recovery frames.
It got reworked in DW6 to have 2 different versions, a normal button version and charge button version.
DW2 had counter attacks done with L1+S which was done when you suffer from any blockstun. However, they cost Musou to use.
DW3 changes L1+S to be a pushblock instead which can be done continuously as soon as one is inputted properly upon again, receiving any blockstun, but it doesn't interrupt the animations of the attacker nor does it cost Musou like in DW2.
And via playing on my emulator the OG Japanese versions and with already a wealth of experience from DW4XL, my favorite classic DW game, DW5 did indeed tone down the AI overall.
I miss the “power guard” system from DW3!
Hopefully the feature comes back in future titles.
@@OrashiTV for my own lalaland including fake game ideas
My setting including my own Musou has instead of 3-to-4 ability types with Power, Speed and whatever random 3rd wheel
There's
Power
Defense
Speed
Balance
Wonder
Technique
The Defense-type solely in the 3D/Musou settings has the same pushblock ability from DW3, but it can't be as spammed and also costs meter to use per input.
I know for me, I jumped from DW2 to DW4 to DW6 and recently got back into my DW8 steam edition. I never really cared about the Renbu system in DW6, I just felt like it was weird and then eventually that it was fine. I always enjoyed these game for the grind and the movesets of different weapons, well and the history. I don’t know how many hours I spent looking through the dates and stuff in the encyclopedia. These games really are their own niche.
i liked dw6 despite its flaws. and i agree Zhang Fei in dw 6 looks the best. not showing anything "mystic" about his power but just his skill with his polearm fending off cao caos army just looks amazing.
In defense of DW7; it may hold your hand but it really does tell a killer story, that moment in Wu's story where Sun Ce was being haunted by phantoms and Sun Jian's Phantom walks out from behind that tent gives me chills.
Not to mention that they could actually kill a character you were playing as mid battle, none of that "Oh I'm injured but I'm fine" *dies at the end of the battle by falling backwards into somebody's arms* that DW8 did.
I even think the clone weapon problem is mostly fixed by 7XL, and all the new modes it adds in addition to conquest mode kind of makes me fine with the lack of free mode.
dw6 bgm so majestic
even today dw6 looks amazing
Samurai Warriors was always my choice over DW, but i still played most (wish you had included fighting Lu Bu in Dynasty Warriors Advance, how he chases you across the overworld, so sick)
But I wish SW had made Tadakatsu Honda and Yukimura Sanada's respective "stands" in the the games as big or iconic moments as in DW. The fact that in Samurai Warriors 2, Tadakatsu has his own music theme for when you encounter him and battle him, along with having the same powered up musou effect as Lu Bu and Zhang Fei in DW, the fear I felt seeing him show up or hearing his music cut into the normal battle music as he would hunt me down. Urgh, so sick.
I confirm the Wei also had a changban scenario as I remember playing dw8 on the Wei side and there being a warning that Zhou Yan spawned in the top right village
This is DW8 Xtreme Legends
Just makes me want Mount&Blade: Three Kingdoms
It was DW4 for me, a friend introduced me to it and I got into the history through this game is incredible that once upon a time this people existed. I remember facing lu bu at hulao gate got destroyed in about 5 hits, there was a way to make him weaker
For DW8, at least for the one on steam, you can play the Chang Ban stage in free mode from Cao Cao's side. Its likely part of the XL portion and the stage is Clash at Chang Ban, but there is no bridge cutscene. The normal stage seems to only be playable on Shu side.
Yes, that level was added in Extreme Legends, so it wasn't in the vanilla DW8. As the Steam version come with Extreme Legends included, Steam player will always have that level.
Worth noting - the Parry Mechanic as it exists in 4 did not exist in 3. Instead, 3 had a different mechanic where you could instead simply push the enemy backwards with similarly-timed button-presses. Spamming the button could even do so multiple times on a single hit.
This is the best idea for DW content I can think of. Really love this and the Lu Bu video.
For difficulty, I would choose DW6 (he's in dark red GOD MODE like Lu Bu at Hu Lao Gate)🔥
For animation, I think DW5 is the best (great voice line and btw, he literally goes Super Saiyan right from the cutscene)😂
Zhao Yun being insanely strong tracks, since Changban really is his shining moment. In RoTK, Zhao Yun saves Liu Bei's baby while fighting for his life behind Cao Cao's lines. Zhang Fei appears at the bridge and shouts so loud that nobody wants to approach, giving Zhao Yun the opportunity to escape. Cao Cao surmised that Zhang Fei was baiting them for an ambush and was reluctant to approach, but he eventually does. But by then, it was too late.
Also Liu Bei was so happy that Zhao Yun survived that he yeets Liu Shan.
Fought well u have That is no easy feat especially being at level one and the big risk of Liu bei Escaping I don’t think I could’ve pulled this one off Hats to u Man U the🐐🔥
I guess DW7 Zhang Fei spent most of his strength to keep the firewall burning haha
My favorite fight is Dw4, the ost is sick, Zhang Fei has the Boss aura and the cutscene is interchangeable
There's something funny about the idea of Zhang Fei swimming back to the bridge to beat the crap out of Zhang Liao
I’ve played the series since the first one! These cutscenes were so epic haha. Cao Cao’s OG sword move set was the best
I love this channel. The best SW and DW content.
Hehehe, well done for this challenge. Dynasty Warriors 6 was my first entry to the series and Changban was usually the 1st battle to jump in when we play during secondary school break. But mostly playing on Liu Bei's side, speedrun the stage to escape, the faster time Liu Bei escapes, the better. Again, as DW6 is the 1st I played, the Renbu system didn't bother me much, spamming charge attacks then dodge if needed, repeat, really the safer tactic we did before. I do prefer Zhang Fei's cutscene from DW5 though, but 6's really good on its own right. Decent challenge is not enough, we'll wait for a real challenge.
good video and with my fav dynasty warriors char as well zhang liao. makes me wonder if you do other cutsuene monents like zhang liao defence of he fei where he was outnumbered by wu
Zhang Fei's never really been my favorite, and I personally don't have much to say about this moment, but good job on trudging through DW2.
As for any suggestions for other iconic moments/battles, not entirely sure, I was gonna pick Zhao Yun saving Liu Shan, but that's not in as many games, so maybe Chi Bi I guess? not sure how you would rank them, but it's an idea.
Thanks! I’m currently writing down a list of iconic moments to revisit, so I’ll definitely add this one to the list 😎
Zhang Fei honestly in the earlier PS2 era games, ESPECIALLY from my personal experience in DW3, had VERY narrow hitboxes on his base attack string.
Sucked far too much.
Zhang Fei 🤝 Gandalf
"YOU SHALL NOT PASS!"
the realization that DW6 introduced the swimming mechanic had me dead 😭
dw6 is the most fun to play.
When it comes to cutszene nothing beats DW5s version for me thats for sure. Speaking of difficulty yeah in the games its surprising how it varies i know late stages of 3 are brutal compared to later entries. It might be due to the amount of archers or heavier hitters but to Chang Ban it does show at times where the game places them. In 4, 5 and 7 they are really early on compared to other entries where its middle. Hell in 3 its one of the few thats already unlocked in free mode if i remember correctly. Great video and one of my favourite moments in DW
You can really tell how much the series has changed overtime by watching this clip, Dynasty Warriors 2 was simply asking for a death wish if you rushed into massive hordes of enemy lines alone, the difficulty was challenging and that’s what made the earlier entries really fun and made you feel a great sense of satisfaction when you overcome it, DW2 and the later stages of DW3 when the AI gets buffed and enemy archers come into play was heart in mouth stuff, that’s what made me fall in love with the series during the PS2 era of DW2-5.
Then you come to the later entries such as SW4, WO4, DW7-8 and your characters are so overpowered like supernatural beings that can clear thousands of enemy units in under 2 mins and that sense of having a difficult challenge has completely gone, it feels like Koei (Omega Force) is trying to cater more towards more people by easing up the challenge of the Warriors series to make you feel like an overpowered demi-god. I still love the series and always will, but I wish they would bring back the AI of the earlier entries because these days even on Chaos difficulty it feels like such a breeze.
I know they can make tough challenging games, just look at Ni-oh and Wo Long, I’m not saying make it to that degree because it would be near impossible in a Warriors game but something like an oldschool difficulty such as DW2-3 would be nice for long time fans.
Absolute Legend, gigaChad Fei is definitely about that action on that bridge. Great vid lad!
Chad Fei graduated from Mogwarts school of Looksmaxxing 😤Thanks a heap my friend🔥
I miss Zhang Liao's guando/pudao. The twin axes are a neat weapon... for someone else.
Like Dian Wei, considering twin-axes is what he was described as using in the books. Then give Dian Wei's axe to someone with a preposterous or crap weapon.
And I forgot about duels in DW4, seeing that footage really brought me back to getting insta-killed by Lu Bu when I foolishly agreed to duel him my first time playing. What a random old memory to dig up. And I really miss the aggression that random soldiers showed in DW4 and DW5. Back in those games a random peon could legit kill you if you'd been weakened by an officer.
I believe you CAN play DW8 Changban on the Wei side, but you'd need to go into free mode and have access to enemy side maps
Even then, those battles usually dont have much of any extra events and stuff like that, but it is technically playable
Other than DW2, DW6 imo had the hardest Zhang Fei bridge stand, mostly because of the Renbu System adding the fact that you always start at your weakest and you have less than half of your moveset to work with. I remember tackling him in Xiahou Dun story and not being able to kill him.
Well done! I praise you!
Thank you my friend!
P.s. Amazing you liked my comment cause I was so hoping you'd read it 💪🏽 would honestly love to see you cover Dynasty Warriors Advance, I literally downloaded it onto my phone after I posted that comment 😂😂 I lived on this shit when I wasn't playing Pokemon or DBZ Legacy of Goku.
The feeling of unlocking Lu Bu in Advance was *insert french kiss* and the storylines are so dope, plus the take on the DW soundtrack but in GBA sound style, it still slaps!
Anyways. Keep up the awesome videos.
Samurai Warriors 1 and 2 are by far the goats of the series, with the voice acting in 1 being far superior to 2, just look up after cutscenes with Oda Nobunga from 1 and 2 and you'll understand. The VA in two sounds so try hard, makes me kinda glad they switched to only doing the games in Japanese but then even with my super Saiyan subtitle reading speed due to being a weeb, even I found myself missing a huge part of the games when you're in the heat of battle and trying to read along to the voice lines 😅
ANYWAYS. Would love to see a video covering DW Advance, especially if it was a nice long retrospective 60-90+ minutes 😎
I’ll add DW Advance to the list🔥
I love the idea of comparing the objectives of each main story beat that each game shares like apparently this(brand new to dynasty warriors main series and lore entirely more or less lol)
A Chad Move Indeed!
DW2 has a counter attack, too.
DW4 was my first foray into the series and all these years later I still miss playing it
Best series on RUclips
Thanks my friend😁
Dynasty Warriors 2 was just monster in its own right. Archers were really strong, officers were terrifyingly strong, and normal soldiers were eager to put a sword in you. The boost/health bonus on knockback was so annoying, you had to play against it. Never do the 4 attack combo, but do 3, and attack again or block and parry (yeah, that was a thing.). Musous weren't a safe point either. You had to be careful one did not start a musou at every point. (experienced many loses against Lu Bu hard because of this.) I miss the old strong AI from older games.
for dw8 you're thinking of the extreme legends edition of the game
Dw6 was like the step child no one talks about 😆
Not even a dog shall pass. What a legend.
Damn! I really need to go back to DW 5! So many good memories
I recently just found your channel. I love your content man keep going
Thank you.
Alright a new video im excited to watch
Better late than never😆
Dynasty Warriors 3 will always be my favorite.
To answer your question a 9:10 Changban is more iconic moment for Zhao Yun than Zhang Fei even. Immortalized as 1 man breakthrough to save Liu Bei's son. Zhang Fei was just there to cover his retreat lol. I linked some film interpretations for you
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Dudde dw2 was one of the hardest games i played as a kid, but it was so enjoyable trying to beat it
Zhao Yun at chang ban bridge battle is also iconic but he didn't get credit in some game but In dynasty warriors 6 they kinda did
I adore Zhang Fei. Good video topic.
Bro put more effort in this than dynasty warriors has done in 8 years
bro, where i was younger, i lvl up against the yellowe turbans too. It was really hard to fight without good stats
Part 4 is my favorite.
Love the aesthetic & atmosphere of DW6 👌🏼
I played 5 up only wish I could play the older ones
I miss having bodyguards and being able to customize them! Wish they would bring them back :(
15:03 - 15:09
This was fricking hilarious.
My kinda slop. Thank you.
DW4XL has him actually play that bridge scene out. Which is my favorite.
dynasty warriors content ive missed it!
Maybe the Wei ver. of ChangBan is in DW8 Xtreme Legends?
You can do Wei's version of Changban by playing Free Mode in DW8.
Sick DW vid bud!
Actually Zhang fei if i fight others officers he most scariest general
please, what’s the track you started with???? the nostalgia is powerful. lol
Man he was a pain in the ass. Still rather deal with him than lu bu
the dw game series were brilliant, simple hack and slash, but for those like us who truly loved it and enjoyed it, others will not understand, some of them weren't as great as others, but the select few were just brilliant, dw9 was a flop with open world though, but the cutscenes were brilliant at least.
Can't you play as the other side of a battle after you beat it in Story Mode? I'm pretty sure you could do that for Chang Ban as well if you select it in Free Mode after beating it, a lot of them feel a bit more rushed than the main version though I haven't tried enough of the other side battles to know for sure.
Edit: I mean DW8
Have you ever read The Ravages of Time? It’s a manga about the Romance of the Three Kingdoms. Zhang Fei’s character is a lot cooler in that series than in dynasty warriors imo
That sounds really cool, I gotta check it out
Its funny how the myth differs from real history. The romance was written by a shu fanboy and apologist that twisted many events to make Shu look like heroes, when in reality they were often awful people (zhang fei was an alcoholist and child rapist, seriously)
In the Romance, zhang fei was said to hold back an entire army by fighting alone on a bridge, whereas in real history the only thing that happened was that the Shu army destroyed a bridge before Wei could catch them and Zhang Fei started to shout insults from the other side
Also, of course the army of Liu Bei weren't helping peasants escape, they were actually bandits who were fleeing after having plundered and terrorized the region
Can't you play changban as wei once you beat all story mode battles? That is how I played as yuan shu against liu bei in lu bu story mode mission
So yes, I was correct. You go to free mode, select stage, select Shu story mode stages, go to those stages that are the bottom most and there is Clash at Chang Ban. I just lost to Zhang Fei with Yue Ying lvl 49, tho idk if I am not playing it on hard
Some of us stopped playing once DW6 came out & thought that was enough. DW9 was almost as bad per several Reddit posts. If DW10 is a reality, what can they do about this scene that’ll make it more special?
Dw2 is a nightmare
You need to juggle opponents 😂
Please do Zhou Yu he is the best and my favorite
I use Xiahou Dun with the dragon spear that is epic
You can do battle at changban mission using wei force in free game mode
DW 6 was the sweetspot of the franchise, everything else prior was kinda rough, everything past it too easy and forgettable
DW 5 was the sweetspot. 6 is the one that ruined everything
Which DW was it that Gan Ning used daggers?
Dw6
Dynasty 4 the best in the series
lol imagine getting your ass kicked by a dude who had to swim to get to you
Little s*** 😂
I'm sorry but that was just funny when you said it😅
in this game your weapon has weight, the lighter the weapon the faster the animation
Man Dynasty Warriors 2 was too difficult
Could you find an alternative to saying "raw dogging it"?
Would you consider "fucking it without lube" an acceptable alternative?
Does anyone know where i can get any of the games for my pc 6 or lower 😢. U can by 7 and up on steam
your wrong about changban in dw9. liu bei is not in a castle and he is running. he got away from me because i did not fast travel and did all the side quest missions. he will get on a boat and you will fail the game. you can block this by destroying his ship first which i did when i reloaded.