I have a couple of these. I am a contractor and usually have my trailer behind my pickup. I back into my driveway. So I use the extension cable to be able to plug in the pickup each night to charge for work each morning.
I can see it useful for contractors. Good point. I think it would be sweet to post up to a job site and be able to use the on-site electric to power the truck & tools and then drive home with a full tank.
@@diydrivenGAfor me, I can route the cable into my truck bed and just use a large lock to the hasp nearest the rear of the bed. The handle on either end can’t pass through, so unless they want to cut it it’s staying put. That said, although I have the lock in the truck for this reason, I’ve never bothered doing it. I’ll wait until one gets stolen before deciding it’s actually worth the effort.
Thank you again Uncle Walt with that code which took off 20% and combined with free shipping directly from the company I purchased the 21ft 50 amp version because I park my car in my driveway and my EV charger is inside my garage.....YOU ARE THE BEST!!! Oh my total was $156
50 A would be nice to have. With most cars capable of 48 A max, there is no chance to forget setting the current to 40 A or less, or software glitch that reverts to default 48 A causing any issues.
LOVE THIS EXTENSION CABLE!! I bought this cord four and a half months ago when I got my bolt. my rental has no drive way so I must park on the street. My street has two houses mine and an older couple with a garage. where i park has a retaining wall then my yard. my charger only reaches the car if I park backwards and I dont want a ticket for parking that way so this was the best option. if the charging port was on the passanger side it would have reached but this extension cable has worked great for us we have had it for four and a half months.
Thanks Walter! It would be nice if there was a cable tether tied to these to potentially prevent cable theft if this extension cable is entirely outside when used.
OMG thank you Uncle Walt I had no idea that this even existed. Once again you are doing the YEOMAN's work when it comes to educating the masses about things EV :)
Thank you for the review. At home we have 4 cars and I’m frequently the first out of the house. Because my EVSE (just inside garage door) only has a 23 foot cable I can’t reach the port on my ID.4 when behind even the shortest of our cars packed tight to the garage. An extension cable is in my future!! Thanks again.
I bought a custom made 60 foot 40 Amp "NACS" to J1772 extension many years ago for about $500. It has been nice from a peace of mind perspective, for traveling to hotels with L2 charging. I also bought it for use at Air B&Bs and for guests to use in my driveway. So far I have only used it a couple of times in about 6 years.
I picked one of these up recently as I don't always want to move cars around to get to the charger, would like to charge in the driveway occasionally while washing the car (drying stage) and occasionally run into public chargers I can't get to due to length. Cable is a bit thin (especially when compared to the Volvo OEM EVSE) but in line with some chargepoints and other wall chargers, so I thought heat would be an issue. However I keep my charges to 26-32a and at 32a, I didn't see any temp issues at any point along the connections. Don't think I would want to use this everyday but for the price, this will come in handy and a good thing to keep in the trunk along with a EVSE and NAC supercharger adapter (also on it's way).
These cables defy NEC code in the USA which limits charging cables to 25' long unless they are using an integrated cable management system. NEC Article 625.17 Cords and Cables (C) Overall Cord and Cable Length. The overall useable length shall not exceed 7.5 m (25 ft)unless equipped with a cable management system that is part of a listed the electric vehicle supply equipment or electric vehicle charging system
I guess my other question is, do you think these should not be sold in the US? If so I can as my contact at EVdance to respond. I am thinking it is similar to using an electric extension cable on the plug side (NEMA 14/50)
@@thenetworkarchitectchannel - I'd think twice about using this at someone else's home or at a motel. Using it in an open parking lot, while you wait might be less risky, but who wants to sit and watch paint dry at level 2 rates. Might be a good tool for a roadside rescue for AAA that have a battery/level 2 invertor, but otherwise, I don't see this as having benefits that outweigh liability concerns. People manufacture hack electronics all the time, but in the world of high current electricity, it's a bad product to sell, IMO. To get down to it, the risk is more about running over it and long term liability factor of long cables not being carefully isolated, than about resistance from the longer run, though the original EVSE isn't tested to include that additional facctor.
@karlInSanDiego thank you for your thoughtful input. You obviously have knowledge in the area. I have interacted with the staff at EVdance and I don’t get the sense they are engaging in predatory capitalism. On the contrary they give me the sense they are making products to support the EV community. You raise valid concerns. I will pose your questions to my internal contact to allow them to respond.
I submitted the question to my internal contact. While I wait for a response, if anyone has a question about this or any EVdance product, emailed questions can be submitted to contact at evdances dot com
It would be nice if there was more street charging where you had to bring your own cable, like in many European cities. This cable would help serve that purpose. I hate street charging that has the cable attached to it because the cable is usually on the ground or not appropriately coiled up.
We have the J3400 standard in North America, which supports a "bring your own cable" EVSE standard, hopefully we will have some products available soon.
A hotel that really wanted to go the extra mile to court EV drivers could keep a couple of these around in a storage room. When a driver complains to the front desk that the charger is blocked, the staff loans them the cable, and the driver is unblocked.
Nice, Walter! I've got a 50-ft. 240V extension cord, but it is thicker, heavier, and more cumbersome as the one you have, and it doesn't have those customized ends on it. Mine only has 14-50 connections for when and if I need to charge from an RV panel. BTW, have you received notification that your Volvo is now authorized for Supercharging? That's what the NACS webpage claims, but… well… you never know with Tesla.
I did not receive any notification from Volvo. There was an alert in the app msg, but I almost never go into the app. I actually heard from a viewer comment on a live stream last night and looked in the TesSC app and was able to confirm from there.
14-50 extension cables need an extra wire for the Neutral pin, which is not used for EV charging. This makes them heavier than needed. Also the extension is upstream of the EVSE's ground fault detection circuits, so there is no GFI protection. J1772 extension cables are protected by the EVSE GFI circuit. They also can be used at hardwire J1772 charging posts, making them more versatile.
Oh, they were having a sale, I bought a 50A 40FT j1772 extension cable and got a tesla to j1772 adapter free. I'll actually test the temps when it arrives, hopefully Walter you'll test and update as well. As you know, I have to keep a check on whether the product they send you is the same as the one I actually purchased.
Most cars have settings to lock the adapter to the car when charging or if the car is locked. Someone could still disconnect your extension from the EVSE cable. If you could get a locking mechanism on the recepticle end I'm not sure it's a good idea to block the hotels equipment from other users, fine for your private use though.
I was not aware of an option in the Cadillac Lyriq to adjust the amperage limits from within the car. Were you able to do this in the Cadillac? Thanks.
Hey Walter are they reputable? Is there a warranty? Will it burn my house or hotel down? Have you used a heat gun after an hour or two to look at operating temp?
Thanks for showing us this product. I'm thinking of getting one of these so I can charge my fairly new Blazer EV outside of the garage when I get my level 2 charger installed. I am still a little (or maybe a lot) paranoid about the battery catching fire. Am I justified in thinking this way, or maybe the FUD has got to me? I really don't want to have to hear my anti-EV friends telling me "I told you so".
I would not invalidate someone's fears. Nor would I try to throw stats your way. I would say this. Which is more dangerous of catching fire. A vehicle that carries a tank of fluid engineered to ignite when vaporized that is almost always being shaken like a maraca or a car that runs on Duracell batteries?
Not sure I understand. I think you are saying due to attenuation from the increased length, there is an increase in voltage at the plug end of the charger?
Does this lock or can it be removed by anyone passing by? Still ordering one as I have to swap cars around to get to the charger and can only charge inside. Added flexibility at home and where ever I go is worth it. BTW It seems like the 32a 21 ft is cheaper through Amazon as it has an additional $40 off coupon bringing it down to $132.
Love the video thank you. I am new at this so forgive me for this question. What does ICED mean in EV language please. I am thinking it means someone is in an EV parking spot maybe 🤔.
Welcome to new EV ownership. I think you will find it is an improvement from a gas car. ICE'ed or ICE'ing refers to an internal combustion engine (ICE) parking in a spot designated for EVs.
Thank you twice ✌🏼once for the explanation which I am still learning. I always heard the word but did not know the understanding of it. Thank you also for the 20% off code. I just purchased the extension cord you have and I thought it was Black Friday already. 😀 I am a very happy camper right now. Thanks again!!
I have a couple of these. I am a contractor and usually have my trailer behind my pickup. I back into my driveway. So I use the extension cable to be able to plug in the pickup each night to charge for work each morning.
I can see it useful for contractors. Good point. I think it would be sweet to post up to a job site and be able to use the on-site electric to power the truck & tools and then drive home with a full tank.
@@koryleach9660 what are you using to lock the ends of it said no one takes your cables
@@diydrivenGAfor me, I can route the cable into my truck bed and just use a large lock to the hasp nearest the rear of the bed. The handle on either end can’t pass through, so unless they want to cut it it’s staying put. That said, although I have the lock in the truck for this reason, I’ve never bothered doing it. I’ll wait until one gets stolen before deciding it’s actually worth the effort.
@@sesmeltz1965 Thanks..I've ordered a few locking rings from Amazon meant for teslas but I'll see if it works.
Thank you again Uncle Walt with that code which took off 20% and combined with free shipping directly from the company I purchased the 21ft 50 amp version because I park my car in my driveway and my EV charger is inside my garage.....YOU ARE THE BEST!!! Oh my total was $156
Enjoy it
50 A would be nice to have. With most cars capable of 48 A max, there is no chance to forget setting the current to 40 A or less, or software glitch that reverts to default 48 A causing any issues.
LOVE THIS EXTENSION CABLE!!
I bought this cord four and a half months ago when I got my bolt. my rental has no drive way so I must park on the street. My street has two houses mine and an older couple with a garage. where i park has a retaining wall then my yard. my charger only reaches the car if I park backwards and I dont want a ticket for parking that way so this was the best option. if the charging port was on the passanger side it would have reached but this extension cable has worked great for us we have had it for four and a half months.
Glad it is working out for you. When I saw it, it seemed like it would have a lot of uses. Thx for watching.
Thanks Walter! It would be nice if there was a cable tether tied to these to potentially prevent cable theft if this extension cable is entirely outside when used.
I agree. That would be an additional purchase. There are products out there you can add to these types of cables. Not EVdance though. Thx for waching.
OMG thank you Uncle Walt I had no idea that this even existed. Once again you are doing the YEOMAN's work when it comes to educating the masses about things EV :)
You are very welcome
Thank you for the review. At home we have 4 cars and I’m frequently the first out of the house. Because my EVSE (just inside garage door) only has a 23 foot cable I can’t reach the port on my ID.4 when behind even the shortest of our cars packed tight to the garage. An extension cable is in my future!!
Thanks again.
Thanks for sharing!
Thanks for reviewing this. I had never heard of this product, but it seems like it would be very useful.
Glad it was helpful!
I bought one of these years ago when my Chevy Volt lost its spot in the garage. It's a very useful accessory for charging an EV / EREV.
Thanks for sharing
Very nice charging equipment to add to our arsenal. Thanks for the review Walter. ⚡⚡
You bet
I bought a custom made 60 foot 40 Amp "NACS" to J1772 extension many years ago for about $500. It has been nice from a peace of mind perspective, for traveling to hotels with L2 charging. I also bought it for use at Air B&Bs and for guests to use in my driveway. So far I have only used it a couple of times in about 6 years.
Thx for sharing. That is about how I see using it too. Only sometimes, but when I do it will be great to have as an option.
I picked one of these up recently as I don't always want to move cars around to get to the charger, would like to charge in the driveway occasionally while washing the car (drying stage) and occasionally run into public chargers I can't get to due to length.
Cable is a bit thin (especially when compared to the Volvo OEM EVSE) but in line with some chargepoints and other wall chargers, so I thought heat would be an issue. However I keep my charges to 26-32a and at 32a, I didn't see any temp issues at any point along the connections.
Don't think I would want to use this everyday but for the price, this will come in handy and a good thing to keep in the trunk along with a EVSE and NAC supercharger adapter (also on it's way).
These cables defy NEC code in the USA which limits charging cables to 25' long unless they are using an integrated cable management system.
NEC Article 625.17 Cords and Cables
(C) Overall Cord and Cable Length. The overall useable length shall not exceed 7.5 m (25 ft)unless equipped with a cable management system that is part of a listed the electric vehicle supply equipment or electric vehicle charging system
Thx for sharing. I knew I heard that somewhere
I guess my other question is, do you think these should not be sold in the US? If so I can as my contact at EVdance to respond. I am thinking it is similar to using an electric extension cable on the plug side (NEMA 14/50)
@@thenetworkarchitectchannel - I'd think twice about using this at someone else's home or at a motel. Using it in an open parking lot, while you wait might be less risky, but who wants to sit and watch paint dry at level 2 rates. Might be a good tool for a roadside rescue for AAA that have a battery/level 2 invertor, but otherwise, I don't see this as having benefits that outweigh liability concerns. People manufacture hack electronics all the time, but in the world of high current electricity, it's a bad product to sell, IMO.
To get down to it, the risk is more about running over it and long term liability factor of long cables not being carefully isolated, than about resistance from the longer run, though the original EVSE isn't tested to include that additional facctor.
@karlInSanDiego thank you for your thoughtful input. You obviously have knowledge in the area. I have interacted with the staff at EVdance and I don’t get the sense they are engaging in predatory capitalism. On the contrary they give me the sense they are making products to support the EV community. You raise valid concerns. I will pose your questions to my internal contact to allow them to respond.
I submitted the question to my internal contact. While I wait for a response, if anyone has a question about this or any EVdance product, emailed questions can be submitted to contact at evdances dot com
It would be nice if there was more street charging where you had to bring your own cable, like in many European cities. This cable would help serve that purpose. I hate street charging that has the cable attached to it because the cable is usually on the ground or not appropriately coiled up.
oh, good point! I hadn't thought about that use case. BYOC I am hearing is going to become more commonplace. Thx for adding that.
We have the J3400 standard in North America, which supports a "bring your own cable" EVSE standard, hopefully we will have some products available soon.
I just bought one of these extension cables from A2Z.
They r good 2. Enjoy
A hotel that really wanted to go the extra mile to court EV drivers could keep a couple of these around in a storage room. When a driver complains to the front desk that the charger is blocked, the staff loans them the cable, and the driver is unblocked.
Good idea. Maybe a few adapters too for J3400/J1772 mis-matching.
Nice, Walter! I've got a 50-ft. 240V extension cord, but it is thicker, heavier, and more cumbersome as the one you have, and it doesn't have those customized ends on it. Mine only has 14-50 connections for when and if I need to charge from an RV panel. BTW, have you received notification that your Volvo is now authorized for Supercharging? That's what the NACS webpage claims, but… well… you never know with Tesla.
I did not receive any notification from Volvo. There was an alert in the app msg, but I almost never go into the app. I actually heard from a viewer comment on a live stream last night and looked in the TesSC app and was able to confirm from there.
14-50 extension cables need an extra wire for the Neutral pin, which is not used for EV charging. This makes them heavier than needed. Also the extension is upstream of the EVSE's ground fault detection circuits, so there is no GFI protection. J1772 extension cables are protected by the EVSE GFI circuit. They also can be used at hardwire J1772 charging posts, making them more versatile.
Oh, they were having a sale, I bought a 50A 40FT j1772 extension cable and got a tesla to j1772 adapter free. I'll actually test the temps when it arrives, hopefully Walter you'll test and update as well. As you know, I have to keep a check on whether the product they send you is the same as the one I actually purchased.
I would be concerned about theft at hotel charging stations as I slept.
Good point.
Yes, at the moment, you can only expect hotel security to be responsible enough.
Most cars have settings to lock the adapter to the car when charging or if the car is locked. Someone could still disconnect your extension from the EVSE cable. If you could get a locking mechanism on the recepticle end I'm not sure it's a good idea to block the hotels equipment from other users, fine for your private use though.
I was not aware of an option in the Cadillac Lyriq to adjust the amperage limits from within the car. Were you able to do this in the Cadillac? Thanks.
U r correct. In the case of the LYRIQ, the 40 amps need be done on the EVSE
Hey Walter are they reputable? Is there a warranty? Will it burn my house or hotel down? Have you used a heat gun after an hour or two to look at operating temp?
I’ll b sure to comment back if my house burns 2 the ground.
Thanks for showing us this product. I'm thinking of getting one of these so I can charge my fairly new Blazer EV outside of the garage when I get my level 2 charger installed. I am still a little (or maybe a lot) paranoid about the battery catching fire. Am I justified in thinking this way, or maybe the FUD has got to me? I really don't want to have to hear my anti-EV friends telling me "I told you so".
I would not invalidate someone's fears. Nor would I try to throw stats your way. I would say this. Which is more dangerous of catching fire. A vehicle that carries a tank of fluid engineered to ignite when vaporized that is almost always being shaken like a maraca or a car that runs on Duracell batteries?
Wonder what the voltage drop is at the plug?
Not sure I understand. I think you are saying due to attenuation from the increased length, there is an increase in voltage at the plug end of the charger?
Does this lock or can it be removed by anyone passing by? Still ordering one as I have to swap cars around to get to the charger and can only charge inside. Added flexibility at home and where ever I go is worth it.
BTW It seems like the 32a 21 ft is cheaper through Amazon as it has an additional $40 off coupon bringing it down to $132.
Anyone can remove it. There are other makers on Amazon who sell locks for the J1772 ends if you wish to add.
Where do you buy the extension cable ?
Web site in the description. There is a coupon code they gave me. I don’t see any money if u use it, so it is a legitimate discount from them.
I would liked to seen a heat reading. Or at least to the touch. 🙁
Okay. I have a laser temperature gun. Will do a follow up sometime soon
Love the video thank you. I am new at this so forgive me for this question. What does ICED mean in EV language please. I am thinking it means someone is in an EV parking spot maybe 🤔.
Welcome to new EV ownership. I think you will find it is an improvement from a gas car. ICE'ed or ICE'ing refers to an internal combustion engine (ICE) parking in a spot designated for EVs.
Thank you twice ✌🏼once for the explanation which I am still learning. I always heard the word but did not know the understanding of it.
Thank you also for the 20% off code. I just purchased the extension cord you have and I thought it was Black Friday already. 😀 I am a very happy camper right now. Thanks again!!
I keep a extension cord like that for this reason
Why not get the 50A cable?
Could work for some. I kinda like the added length, which makes you loose the extra ams.
@@thenetworkarchitectchannel There is a 50A cable that's 40ft long, but since it has heavier gauge copper it's 14 lbs...
@@auser1922 Ah, I see. That one escaped my attention.
ICE ICE Baby 😂😂😂
So, this is a simple solution to non Tesla vehicles blocking two spaces. Right?
only on L2. Not able to be used on TesSC. It is said Tesla is working on one that will work for TesSC stations though. Good point.
Not certified.