Practical Application for Uechi Ryu's Seisan Jump Back
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- Опубликовано: 6 сен 2024
- I've never seen anyone talking about this before. This is one of Uechi Ryu's most famous moves, and it's the reason everyone performs Seisan kata at tournaments. So what the heck is it? The bunkai most organizations go with is that it's jumping over a sword. That seems like a last resort doomed to fail, and the only time I can imagine it might have worked is if the dude with tge sword was so surprised about the jump back Crane stance that he forgot what he was doing.
Kata applications (also called bunkai) should be effective solutions to real problems people might face in violent encounters against opponents who are not martial artists. Realistic distances, targets, and outcomes must be examined. Every movement of the kata matters. The application may not look as pretty as the kata performance, but one should begin the analysis with the view that each move serves a purpose.
Historically, we know the jump back was embellished and that it used to be performed as a step back, so that is what I look at here. I'm looking at the right hand sweeping back to a salute position, the harai sekui uke, with the left hand, the knee lift into the crane stance, and the movement back.
I draw on research and work by Patrick McCarthy, Iain Abernathy, and others here. Shout out to Coach Jeff Burger, too! If you find this interesting, I highly recommend you look into their videos.
Thank you to TimelessWarriors for the question and suggestion to make a video on this movement!
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Inspired! Thanks for this. I love creative takes on the techniques in Uechi kata. We should always be thinking about how they can be applied... there's usually a multitude of ways.
Thank you for the kind words, sir! I stand on the shoulders of giants. I agree--so many great explanations out there that work with realistic problems of civilian violence.
La historia dice que Kanbun Uechi hacia un movimiento muy veloz hacia atrás de tal forma que nadie pudo entender si el salto de Seisan era en verdad un salto. Se entiende que Kanbun Uechi era muy veloz. El actual salto de Seisan esta adornado. En la escuela de Huxunquan de Fujian se ve una postura muy veloz hacia atrás y quizas la misma que hacia Kanbun Uechi.
¡Me encanta ver las conexiones con Kung Fu! Gracias de nuevo, ¡sus comentarios han sido fascinantes!
Learned Seisan bunkai in Okinawa; no fancy jump back in the one I learned.
Makes sense to me! 😁
la patada en el salto de Seisan en Uechi Ryu. Una historia dice que antiguamente el salto de Seisan era solo un movimiento rápido hacia atrás y con una patada.
Extracto del libro de George Mattson y una entrevista a Kanei Uechi con respecto al salto de Seisan realizado por Kanbun Uechi:
"Se ha dicho que nadie pudo ver claramente los movimientos mientras Kanbun lo realizaba, ya que su cuerpo "se movía como el viento" con todo el Kata realizado en unos segundos. Entre los que presenciaron las demostraciones de Kanbun, se ha hablado mucho sobre si incluyó o no una patada frontal cuando regresó de la posición final o no. Los maestros actuales que recuerdan haber visto a Kanbun hacer el Kata varían en cuanto a lo que creen que vieron. Aunque Kanbun no dijo de una manera u otra, Kanei cree que su padre hizo una patada frontal izquierda, volviendo a la posición de postura del caballo. Los movimientos se hicieron tan rápido, sin embargo, nadie puede decirlo con certeza.
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¡Eso es muy interesante! No había escuchado eso, pero la patada frontal tendría sentido. También se parecería más a algunas de las versiones Goju Ryu de Seisan que he visto. ¡Gracias por compartir!
I agree with your reply saying that kata is let to interpretation. Forms teach not only applications and body mechanics, but the variations are virtually endless. ruclips.net/video/E4-d6hNN3hs/видео.htmlsi=mcC_ZitMCkz-JxQA
This is from Shaolin 5 animals. If I remember correctly it’s called Crane Spreads It’s Wings. At 1:01 you see the similar technique from which I understand is a step back to avoid or block a low attack/sweep and is followed up with a kick instead of a jump back in. However, if you were clinched in close and someone intended to do a knee, a lunging or push kick or even a double leg take down the jump back would enable you to evade farther and quicker. Not to mention if someone did a switch up kick and you were duped at the point of the feigned lower attack your “salute” could work as a block for the head kick switch. Some movements are universal. Tai chi and Kung Fu styles all have similar movements.
Love it! Yes! Thanks for sharing the form and your thoughts. One of my teachers has Kung Fu and Wing Chun experience, and he showed me a ton of similarities and connections to Uechi Ryu. So cool!
Very insightful
Many thanks! And thanks for the suggestion!
Are school its a back jump to counter a low bow attack and bow goes around to be blocked again with a elbow. (No kick) in are school.
Observa el video del maestro de Uechi Ryu Igor Gorbunov. En el minuto 25::55 de su video el maestro hace el Bunkai del Salto de Seisan. ruclips.net/video/E6SqZ3-80YU/видео.html