Mesa Triple Rectifier 3 Channel - 150 Watts of Chug Power
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- Опубликовано: 26 авг 2024
- Per usual, SM57 direct on the Mesa V30 where the cone meets the cap. No post processing! All pedals in my signal chain shown!
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Am I the only one who absolutely loves his guitar playing? Sick picking hand.
Thanks my friend
He does have one solid picking hand . Hate to take a punch from that guy 😂
15:54 - That's it. There's a reason the lights went dark, you opened the gates of Mordor with that savage tone
LOL
Re: the low-mids on rectos -- run the treble higher and the presence lower. As you turn the treble up, it shifts the mid-scoop lower, and vice-versa.
I own 2 rectifiers ! 1 dual rectifier multi watt made this year in February and 1 Dual rectifier roadster made in 2011. Anyways on my rectifiers I run the presence @ 130-2 o'clock and the treble lower round 11 to noon and they both have perfect attack, no blanket sound and no high end Fizz! both in vintage mode and both boosted with a Fortin 33( side note i prefer the roadster boosted with my KSR Eros).
10:30 - this is exactly the epiphany you have to have when playing a recto. I can't tell you how many times I tried one of these amps out as a kid and absolutely hated them, until one day somone hearing me play suggested an overdrive in front. Immediately the amp just comes ALIVE with a good boost out front and you get that iconic Recto tone.
My first "real" amp was a revG dual rec. Playing skate punk/hardcore in the late 90's and early 00's that was THE amp to have. I was definitely not blown away.....I think the Mesa tone in my head was more like a Mark series, which is obviously way different to a rec. Yes....putting a boost up front to tighten it and give it a bit more saturation, plus a eq in the loop to remove some of those low-mids, while keeping lows made it into an absolute beast....but I never really liked the fact I had to do all that to get what I wanted out of it.
Every Mesa I have played seems to react extremely noticeably to boosts out front, in a good way
@@SluggerStark I had many Rectos, now I'm selling my '92 Mark IV to buy again a 2 channel Dual Recto, for one reason. A Mark will never ever have that grunt and sub lows. Love both but think this way. Marshalls like boost pedals, Rectos need boost pedals, Peaveys and many many others do. So it's not a recto prerogative to be boosted to sound right.
@@Hagstrom4ever Oh I agree that Rectos aren't the only amps that benefit from a boost for hard music. For sure guys have boosted 5150's and jcm 800's for years with good results. I am just saying that for me personally, I didn't like what I had to do with my old recto to get it to do what I wanted. Everyone likes different things. An old bandmate is an old schooler: he likes the huge sub lows and growl from old rectos as well as the unhinged top end and harmonics from older Marshalls. He doesn't view the new Badlander (tighter, less sub lows and lows) as a recto or a Friedman BE100 (reigned in top end, less crazy odd order harmonics) as a Marshall. Yet for me, those are two of my favorite amps. To him they don't have the character of the old amps....to me, I love that I get record ready tone without all the work. Sorry for the ramble. :)
@@SluggerStark I still needed a boost for my Badlander, they just don't get to what I need without it...tone is subjective though and everyone likes different stuff which leads to so many awesome tones and diversity 👏
Kyle I found the multi watt triple running el34s as the best sounding rectifier. After several over the years this one is a keeper. I use a Friedman Golden Pearl as the secret sauce out front to tighten things up. I found that el34s tend to give the amp just a bit more bite and focus. It is subtle but does make the amp feel better to play, to me any way.
I loved my badlander with EL34s( also my EVH 5150III EL34 50watt) I really need to put some in my Dual rectifier roadster and Dual Rectifier Multi watt, I think the EL34s still maintain that low end thump everyone loves but is also more aggressive than 6L6s. Really need to get some EL34S for both amps but it's so expensive these days and EL34s are harder to find for my amps than the 6L6GC. Also my Tech says if you drop the EL34S in you still need to change the fixed bias so you can dial it in.( basically if you get mesa 6L6s you can drop them in any mesa rectifier with no issues with the fixed bias bit for some reason if ya switch to EL34s you have to adjust bias, the switch isn't enough with the fixed bias to drop any ol EL34S in.) Idk though...I'm no tech but highly respect my tech amd trust what he says hahha
I personally think any American amps sound weird with el34s I think the 6l6 suits the American sound people go for. Just like how I think a Marshall with 6l6s also sounds weird
I remember the first real amp I ever tried was the Triple Rec with a modded Fender Strat with Lace Deathbuckers and it just SCREAMED!
. Toured with both Dual(ractifier, rack mounted head )and Triple 2 channel. The Triple in my opinion are much cleaner and tighter at volume. The Tube Rectifier tubes (switch in back ) gets rid of a bunch of fizz. You have to change presence and highs settings though. All but low tunings can gain from using the tube rectification settings. Boss SD1 cleans up the amp at high gain settings unless you keep bass at 10pm ish or so if you don’t like using a OD pedal. Love my Marshall’s but the Rectifiers are just as great just sit differently in a mix.
That tone you get at just past 13min is really great! I'm always doing the treble-down trick in modern mode. Makes for a totally different amp like that.
best triple rectifier tones ive ever heard is Shaun ....Seether tones ripped first 3-4v Albulms...just sweet tones especially the Song Gasoline and Simple Mistake
Even if you dislike the amp itself, that oversized mesa cab is the best!
I do believe that turning down the treble gives you more mids because that's how the EQ is designed, says so in the manual. Though I've never tried completely roll off the treble, I need to try that. The mid knob also acts kind of funky and doesn't act like a normal "make mids loud or quiet". The more you turn it up the brighter and stiffer your mids are, down makes them fatter and darker.
The other thing I've noticed is that the Orange and Red channels are voiced slightly different. The orange channel is a little more mid focused and fatter when you set both the orange and red channels the same.
One interesting tactic is to set the Red channel to Vintage and the Orange to Modern to get a good balance for each channel.
Though most of this info is for the multi-watt so results may vary for the "solo" heads
It’s in the power amp I believe
I have the same problem with low mid in my Mesa road king ll and the only the solution that has worked for me is running the MXR 10 band graphic EQ in the FX loop. I love the sound of my amp and how dialed in I can get it now. Hope this is helpful. 🍻
For me running an eq in the loop is the way to go.
At about 8:05 he really gets it dialed in pretty sick. Great demo, thanks!
Thanks! Glad you enjoyed!
I find your videos so helpful and love how you talk through dialling in an amp together with playing the settings. I have a dual recto and I followed your video to dial mine to get the exact sound I wanted
Thanks so much, Adam! Truly appreciate you!!
I use the 7 minute mark of this video to show others how important the pick attack can be for tightening up the sound, especially with tube amps and passive pickups.
That's rad man, glad the content is helpful and can demonstrate a point!
Love my rev f triple rec. More simple than the multiwatt versions to use.
No....just no hahaha
I liked that Life of Agony riff. River Runs Red is a classic \m/ Thanks for the great demo
YES
7:42 NAILS it! Ch 2 buddy! Thats my sweet spot
That's what she said
You can also choose between tube rectification or diode rectification. They sound completely different
If i ever have the money I'm def gonna get it! This is my main amp in amplitube 5 max and i love it!
Love the Life Of Agony riff at the end
dialed her in great. What an awesome amp
Agreed! This one is a winner
From the moment you tuned down the guitar, engaged the boost pedal, the amp came more alive (I really liked without the boost already). This amp is better for lower tunings.
The Rectifiers are supposed to be THE nu-metal amp. However a lot of HC bands like Comeback Kid, This is Hell, ... use the Recto, and it is perfect for fast / speed riffs as well. For me it stays the ultimate metal amp. And if you choose a decent cabinet, it's so obvious that you can make a good old JCM 800 sound close as a twin to the Recto. Or make the Recto sound as a JCM 800.
Rectifiers have came stock with a host of different tubes over the years. That alone is about half of why you find them to sound so different from one another. They've used 420(coke bottles and straights), 425, 430, 440, and now str-445. Use the latter for the 3-channel models IMO. Preamp tubes have also been various. Doug's tubes sell a very nice high-gain preamp set that will thicken it a bit compared to running all mesa jjs. Just using aTung-sol or Mullard in v1 and/or v2 helps too.
Sweet amp when you push the master up. Really moves some air with all that head room. I always preferred it in solid state rectifier mode and modern mode with the mids cranked and the bass rolled off. You only get those low mids once the master is at an uncomfortable level.
damn, its way loud ! do you use ear protection?
@@maniacguitar I’ve only recorded with it once, and we kept the cab in isolation from us. My old band mates’ had this amp with a full stack of recto cabs on one side and a JCM2000 100w on the other with a Marshall full stack. 7 string drop tuned death metal. It was immense to say the least, and yeah we always wore ear plugs.
Also Mesa originally made these to compete against the modded JCM800’s of the late 80’s early 90’s from what they told me directly. Also preamp section is borrowed from the SLO 100 but poweramp section is very different. Mesa screwed up the Triple Rec when they went to the 3 Channel but later fixed it.
These amps shine with a boost. Ive been using the metal zone with the distortion on the pedal all the way off, but you still get its eq curve, then the ibanez turbo ts9.
Agreed. I slightly turn my gain down and boost it with an Architect V3 or SD9 and it’s killer
Hands down one of the hardest amps to dial in! I have a 2 CH Triple Rec Solo Head (black Loop active master knob). I love it, but dang man! It is a bear to dial in!
Great playing and fine-tuning skill..
Thank you!
my mesa triple rec has been bulletproof for a decade lol....i run a line 6 pod xt thru for loop
Hmm, I love my old three channel Dual Rec. However, mine is heavily modified by Brian at BFG. Huge, tight and clear. Don't know how he did it!
ive grown to like the red channel on my amp(same amp as you show here) for years i only played orange cause it would get more bassy and scoopy but the red ive learned has more snarl and grind and less fizz but way more presence(cant do that exagerrated scoopy sound as good but sits better in a mix)Also,and most importantly,these amps are a whole different beast when u start cranking them up ,which sux cause my hearing is suffering
Love that sound
I despise too much low mids! Glad i know that. I have scooped out the 400 hz on every amp i've owned.
Kyle , amazing reviews ... I still haven't quite narrowed down my amp choice but getting there. Could you possibly , or maybe you have ... do a review in the Fractal audio Fx !?
Best yt channel ever
That Mesa sounds damn good!
Didn't pay anywhere near that! Lol
@@belligerentamateur good review thanks.
Dude that tone makes me wanna chug a Triple gallon of chocolate milk 🥛.. no let me Rectify that .. a Triple tank
Sounds great, trying to dial mine in, some were close to that sound.
I was wondering does anybody know how I can get my hands on that Voodoo Oculus pickup?
Cool vid, dude!
Sitting here with my 5W Princeton clone 🤣. My brother plays a Triple Wreck. He’s a big fan of it. Had it 15+ years or so. Was curious what other people thought about it. He has a 51/50 that doesn’t sound so hot and some Framis that may be the most djenty thing I’ve ever heard. I have a Supro and Hand-Built Twin so I’m way out of my element here.
I'm enjoying my $1000 roadster. I need to get a cab with V30's.
Try the Amp with with EL34s in the future and also try a Mix of V30s and G12H-75 Creambacks,I think that's the best mix of speakers for the Roadster.
The roadster is hard to beat
So I switched back-and-forth between this video and the Peavey transtube supreme video you did and they sound pretty close.. it would be really cool for you to do a back-to-back comparison.. FYI I've played both amps and I actually own the Peavey..
You should shoot this out vs the Badlander (if you still have it).
I would actually like to have my Roadster modded by KSR and have a Pair of 6L6s and KT77s put in my recto. Think imma pull the trigger in 2 months or less on that
That old Buckethead tone
Kyle man! Rockin the Mesa eh?
Just retubed mine w 6L6’s then switched to EL34’s. Gives it a little more “Crispy”
When I first got my rectifier it sounded terrible and was like wtf after everyone saying how good it was then accidentally I put it in bypass and the amp sounded amazing so I was like well at least it sounded great now but I found out about the loop volume and how that affects the sound and I had mine on a low setting and I turned it up to 3 o’clock and master volume on 11 and it sounds great now
Try the Recto Roadster ... if you want rhrashy mids ;.)
I actually had the Roadster and thought it was the darkest/muddiest of the rectifiers I've owned, which is pretty much all of them! Lol, different strokes, though
@@belligerentamateur I bought my first recto in 1993 - Triple with chrome chassis it was a beast and the most brutal amp beside my old VHT Ultralead EQ ! The Roadster is close behind , i think you had a bad one. And yes, i owned a lot of Rectos and no other came close for tight thrash metal . I went through over 50 Amps the last 20 years - Rock on Bro , love your channel !!
I like your tone very well，but can't see clearly what the 17：00 setting is
Hey Kyle, I have that same amp and your final tone was awesome. Could you please post your final tone settings that you dialed on the amp here? They are barely seem on the video... Thanks bro and keep the good work that you are doing on the videos.
Sorry man, I honestly can't remember where they were set. Very dependent on the cab, room, guitar, pickups, etc. Just dial til your ears are happy!
Is that a Gibson Firebrand you're playing?
Crushing tones man ! Do you still have the tremoverb ? It would be very interesting to see a comparison of tremoverb and other rectos
Sold it about 6 years ago, unfortunately!
Thanks for doing this video - any chance you wrote down your preferred settings on each channel? Thank you.
Settings are highly dependent on the guitar, cab, overdrive being used, room, etc. Too many variables!
These amps have ruined me, I played one live once and it’s been the tone in my head ever since.
HEY! You have my guitar... but your knobs are different :O
Basically if you tickle your strings don’t moan about the Recto 😜🤘🏼
It needs whacking
No tickle, always whack
What are your settings on the overdrive pedal? This is relevant
Hey Kyle, when are you going to review a Peavey JSX?
Man....hopefully soon!
What was your settings on the orange channel
Also, I think your playing Bad Seed wrong. Life of Agony is in D standard, not Drop D so that verse goes from the open D up to the 5th fret G, not the 3rd fret F. The C to D following is correct but only lines up under the 5th fret G in D standard.
This was diode rectification, correct?
Fucking love rectos. Their eq is fucking stupid though.
I want a recto with 6505 eq.
Keep is stupid simple.
Have you ever tried a carvin v3? They remind me a lot of a recto with more mids.
No, but have always wanted to!
Why can't anyone ever do a demo just straight into the amp with a dry signal.
Do a Knucklehead Tre.
Would love to if I could find another
Does the multiwatt triple rec at 50 watt sound the same as dual rec at 50 watt?
Most likely
is there a parallel fx loop on that one? mine has that loop. Still not happy with the loop. Mesa manual says to put them both at 12 oclock, put I found that even with no fx in the loop, tone gets choked quite a bit. Any suggestions id love to hear! Great video as well!
Just had this issue at a show. My fx were working fine at rehearsal a few days ago, but when I went to use them at my show, it sounded like my amp was on half power. I thought I had blown a power tube, but then I unplugged my cables to the loop and boom the problem was fixed.
I’ve recently found that if you put the return to 100% wet and the send to 10 to 12 o’clock, it works best for effects pedals. Otherwise you get a comb filter sound.
What band shirt is that you're wearing? Looks cool. 🤘
Unbelievable that you can't make it ouylt
It says Grirjruruiejsbnanajjsjs
That's the homie Jamie Slays shirt!
@@Sticky_Tea 😂
Thought it was a pile of sticks on fire.
“We’re going to turn the highs completely off now…..see there..listen to all those mids…..
Wow! That’s a lot better….
Actually, that’s a bit too much mids….there that’s good,that’s nice…
Let’s touch the highs, get a little more highs……I saw a trick on the internet that works on rectifiers…”
Says everyone that owns a rectifier.
😂
I had a triple and hated it. No color very sterile
I think there's letter in the serial number that will tell you. Take that with a grain of salt , I'm not very familiar with Mesa.
No sir, the revision is marked internally on one of the boards
Can you play a whole show with the solo switch on?
huh?
@@belligerentamateur because there's a solo setting that makes it louder, if i need that extra loudness because im not mic'd up, can i play whole show with the solo setting on
@@christofearcr. It’s not gonna make it louder than the amp is itself. It’s basically in parallel with the output knob
something wrong with your fingers
Do you ever call yourself “THE BULL”?!!!!
No, but everyone else does. LOL
Palm muting makes everyone sound good doesn't it?
hell yeah it does!
@@belligerentamateur Its all I do lol
Is it just me or this amp sounds rather fizzy..
too buzzy
Hey not sure if you still check these comments after all this time but there is a new triple rectifier model on zzsounds I have been looking everywhere for a video can't find one if you get the chance you should check it out