CURLY CUTS 💇🏾♀️ DISASTER ➰HOW FOLLOWING THE 30 DAY HAIR DETOX DESTROYED MY HAIR ‼️
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So I have given BGC credit in the video for the amazing job they did with helping women to start using proper shampoos in their routine! Most of us just needed a good clarifying shampoo!
The links are in the description box! If you are not aware of the terms webbing, and Velcro ends then be happy!
Please be respectful and watch entire video to get the whole picture! There is no one size fit all, so if this routine works please keep doing it! I can only relate from my experience!
If you have been watching my content you know I once spoke highly of this routine because I had no idea my hair was becoming damaged overtime following their method!
I made a video about my experience because I and others are experiencing these issues!
I totally understand if you don’t have this experience!
But I am going to keep it 💯‼️
Okay this is the Jamaican side where we are going to speak the truth ‼️My truth!
The information on why we are experiencing this doesn’t lie! ( Velcro ends, webbing etc)
Also BGC isn’t very nice on their lives and in the videos where they constantly make fun of others and their methods!
so if you are offended by my delivery I am very sorry!
❤️Rosie
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I just refuse to pay someone to tell me how to care for my natural hair. I just use what keeps my hair healthy.
Lesson learned
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Yes I noticed a hostile tone when I stated to them that there is not a one size fits all hair routine🤷
BGC method turned me off from day one. Not because I believe in oil and butters cause I don't. When I went natural, oil and butters never worked for me. So I don't use them. What really turn me off from them is the condescending attitude they both have. I just couldnt get on board with that.
Agreed! It’s definitely a turn off !
This right here! Those attitudes gotta go!
Agreed... I was intrigued until I saw a couple of lives and several comments and quickly left. Disrespecting others like that was so childish and almost like bullying to me.
Yes , the same thing I felt, the condensing tone did it for me.
Boom.
I was on the BGC journey for 2 years before realizing something unusual was going on with my hair. I quickly reintroduced silicones, leave ins and blown out hair cuts after listening to cosmetic chemists and it helped immensely. I also started using products that worked for me despite the ingredients and stopped using certain ones they recommended. I began focusing less on water absorption and more on conditioning the hair. Things are back to normal but I still need a few more haircuts. I appreciate BGC a lot. They taught me how to get a 7 day wash and go and a 10 day twist out. They taught me to make my hair routine simpler and and gave me confidence in wearing my hair. Before them I didn’t even know I had a curl pattern! They changed my life for the better in many ways but two things can be true. They are wrong on so many aspects of haircare and I’ve said this for a while. Take out the baby you guys, then throw out the bath water. Save your money, time and hair!
Thank you for sharing the aspect you appreciated! Because yes they really helped many to wear their natural hair with confidence! Even though their delivery was more than desired they could have made something great if they tweaked their methodology! Make fun of others I believe has also made it difficult to make changes!
I am happy you were able to catch on that something was not right and made changes! I hope your journey continues to get better!
Perfectly said. I had the same experience. I learnt so much from them, never saw my curls before, had no idea my hair was so curly, but the health of my hair was in a terrible state. The fact that even people who have BGC stylists and do everything they are supposed to do still have the same issues show there is a problem. I genuinely hope they take this feedback and improve, because I want black business to do well and I believe they genuinely can help people. They are too arrogant to learn and very condescending. I paid for service and was happy to do so, but I remember listening to a live where one of them was so rude - I said 'nope they won't get another penny from me.' l
Thanks for sharing your experience, I was very confused with everything I've heard about this method...From what I understand the cut is one of the major issues (especially if you have tight curls) and the lack of conditionning too. I understand beacause I had velcro ends from trichollomania :(
Could you please share how you get a 7 day wash and go ?
I don’t do anything special! I just shampoo condition ( deep condition for now weekly) add a light amount of leave in. Your climate could be playing a role, with the method for some overtime with the hair getting dehydrated from not getting what it needs your wash and go might start to not last as long!
You are my story. It was exactly two years that I realized something went very wrong. Like you, I appreciate the confidence that I gained from BGC. I love the kinky unkempt look of my style, but I regret the method. I am basically starting over again. But at least I know I was not losing my mind when it all went wrong.
I FOR ONE WILL COMMEND YOU with sharing your personal information. I am sure you are not the only one who has followed "BLACK GIRL CURLS" and had some problems. I think that the advice they have been putting out should not be for "ALL." There are too many variables and too many scenarios to put everyone in the same category. There are those who may not need any conditioners, definitely not all. In my opinion, Curly cuts work well ONLY if that is the hair style you are going to keep. Once you straighten your hair, it would be very hard for the cut to be even with your straight style. How could it, when you cut in a curly state, there are two different styles. I understand what they are trying to do; however, there are too many different hair textures, not to mention your personal health, and so on to say this or that is ALL YOU NEED for a Wash and GO! I agree with you Rosie. I am a retired cosmetologist and a lot of the things the hair stylist are now implementing, we just did not do many, many, years ago. AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR COMING FORTH AND TELLING US YOUR EXPERIENCE. DO NOT LEAVE MEAN COMMENTS FOR ROSIE. SHE IS ENTITLED TO HER OPINION BASED ON HER PERSONAL EXPERIENCE. IF the Black Girl Curls methods work for you, keep on using their methods. P.S. ONE THING I DO AGREE WITH WHAT THEY SAY IS "Wash your hair"!!!!!
Agreed! To clarify I was very aware that my shape when cut curly would not translate well to perfection when straightened! It’s the ends that were horrible split and Velcro! I think they should have stopped at sharing proper shampoo techniques! That’s what is truly missing !
I just can't understand why Afro kinky hair that's already on the dry side would not need a leave-in or a DC. ❤ using my leave-in when doing a WNG, and weekly DC alternating with protein & moisturizing! Happy healthy hair routine!
Yes I am here for it
Yes ma’am! I started
30 day detox last year I’ve also dealing with those exact same issues . Thank you for speaking up..can’t wait to use a deep conditioner and follow up with my fav leave in.
It’s sad that our voices are being dismissed and only the good experiences being accepted!
Keep at it ladies!
It’s only a matter of time until the entire scam collapses.
Mark my words !
Something very good will come out of this for the two of you ladies!
Continue to stand on your truth . If you face any problems Narada and his 160K subs have your back. Simply come on over there ! Xx
I have never trusted or believed anything black curls said. It just doesn’t make sense. Yes some of us may have went overboard with oils and butter, I know I have. But my hair never broke off. Actually my hair thrived! My hair started to change. I thought it was because of the oils and butters but it wasn’t. I had an underlying medical condition. So yes we must do our due diligence and our own research. We cannot expect someone who had never seen our hair to diagnose our hair problems. This method was always suspect to me.
Listen if you can convince women to pay 250 , 350 and upwards for a cut , that says something! Most people are unable to afford these prices!
I've been natural for over 12 years. When bgc became popular, I took what I thought made sense and left the rest. I never fully committed to the method, especially the curly cuts. I wanted to grow my hair out, I didn't see why I would sacrifice that for shape. I also continued to use a deep conditioner but cut out most oils and butters (never used butter anyways before but my products still contained them). However, I was able to get better wash n gos and more hydrated hair. They also helped me to simply my routine. I don't need a leave in currently. As a matter of fact, right now I'm only using mousse. But I blow my hair out for cuts. I've been doing this for about 18months and I'm thankful to them for what they taught me. But I'm very happy to hear your story. Its helpful to know what harzards are. I wish they would have just focused on washing your hair properly and how to simplify our routines. Thats what, I believe, was missing from the natural hair movement. That extra stuff is not one size fits all, though they treat them like they are.
Also, I too, realize from the beginning that they kept changing their teachings. No prepoo, then prepoos are ok. Wash hour eventually became washing and conditioning in under an hour not including style and dry time. And I hated how they low-key brainwashed women into believing they didn't want longer hair. Shape over length, just to justify why everyone's hair had the same shape that was ear length when curly. Speak your truth Rosie.
Nope no one size fits all we are never too old to learn
@@thingsilove18 omg I noticed this too!! I thought I was just confused all this while, they really did change their teachings! I feel especially that those teachings they changed were things that HAD to change when "4C" hair (my curl pattern) was included. Yes, other hair types can get away with skipping pre-poos and can wash and style in 1 hour but personally, I feel like they were only able to make those claims so easily when their clientele included a less diverse set of curl patterns.
Thank you for the information. My philosophy is if it's not broken stop trying to fix it. My hair has always flourished with oils, butter, and cream.
Exactly!
BGC always states to use a deep conditioner as needed to correct an issue. Deep conditioners are also on the recommended list. They never claimed that with their method you’ll never need to deep condition again. What they did was urge us to think about the “why” to everything we do and to learn & assess our hair. So, I’m glad that you were able to assess that your hair had an issue and address what was needed to correct it. Sounds like you learned from what they taught you in this case regarding moisture.
I think they should keep their information to properly cleansing the hair! The other is excessive and is causing excessive damage to many curly friends!
In some of their videos, BGC discourages using deep conditioners & leave in conditioners as part of routine hair maintenance. They have also discourage cutting hair in a blown out state. When curlies critique their methods they are dismissive & condescending.
@divajbl5425 very true!
BGC absolutely discouraged the use of deep conditioners and leave ins . I followed the methodology since 2018. My hair is jacked. I have velcro ends and webbing. When I detangle my hair literally sounds like velcro . I followed the methodology because they are the professionals , trusted the process and therefore stopped deep conditioning about a year after following them. In hind sight saying you don’t need a deep conditioner unless there’s a problem doesn’t work (at least for my hair) . When I deep conditioned regularly I never had this issue . I’d rather deep condition regularly and avoid a problem altogether . I too have purchased k18 and gone back to deep conditioning weekly until I see improvement . I’ve also started testing some leave ins . I have only ever had curly cuts this entire time . At the end of the day I accept responsibility for choosing to follow this but when so many people are now asking legitimate questions and speaking out , and in return BGC seems to be avoiding the issue is not a good look
I think what they did was teach us to go back to the basics, learn your hair, then adjust if needed.
I never felt that I was going against their principles when I added a leave in 2 months ago and a deep conditioner a week ago for my WNG. I even referenced their product list when choosing both. In fact, they both have videos of them using leave-ins. Granted, not for WNG, so I think this just a point of clarity/update they need to provide consumers.
Now, I would agree that they could offer more clarity and advice that this may still be needed for some or need to be reinstated over time. This may help others pay more attention & be comfortable adding it to their routine.
This time last year I went to curly stylist! My hair was pretty long! She cut a lot off saying my hair was damaged from blow out cuts. She told me I didn’t have to deep condition or use leave ins, EVERYTHING THAT MADE MY HAIR GROW QUICKLY! Usually after a major cut, my hair grows back to decent length within 6 months! Not this time! Plus she was condescending. I went back to my regular stylist and got several cuts. I’ve learned my lesson 😢 Also, I saw so much hair in the shower! My stylist went to that class and realized she was not going to do this to her clients.
I have learned my lesson too! I hope your hair will recover!
@@rosieamelia5955 Thanks! In May I got a straight cut and wore it in a protective style! I’m getting another protective style next week! My hair thrives with straight cuts, deep conditioning, and protective styles. I can wear wash and go’s as long as I properly take care of my hair!
It was so crazy when I went to the curly specialist. She ask me to show her some inspirational pics. I had plenty to show her of me, how I had my hair before! She was like…. “NO! I DON’T WANT TO SEE ANY OF YOU!” How condescending was that?! That was my first and last time going to her! However, I thought I could still do my own hair based on their principles. Nope! I pretty much had to get more cut off to rectify the damage that was done!
@mscoolbee my hair needs leave in and deep conditioner! Even though my hair looked amazing it lacked moisture without me knowing! Have I learned my lesson? yes!
Wow.... just, wow.
This has given me sooooooo much confirmation !!!
Thanks for sharing your experience with the method! This is how I roll - if something/somebody rubs me the wrong way, I won't even mention it, I just stop doing the methods in my hair and stop mentioning them. So here's something that I happened to me - I have never specifically shared it online until now.
1. I received a cut from one of the women of bgc and it looked okay, but me being a cosmetologist, I pay more attention to things, that some might not notice. So, 2-3 weeks after getting a curly cut, I was looking at my ends and noticed a tone of split ends, I was pissed. But I never talked about it publicly. I just made up my mind to NEVER return to have my hair cut by that person, and I would NEVER get a curly cut. I chalked it up as a learning experience, and I kept it moving.
2. I left the salon having paid $260-70ish (I bought some hair products), I had buyers remorse, indeed. I didn't get color, didn't receive any other chemical services. Any hair dresser worth their weight in gold, will tell you that for what I got, the price I paid, compared to the services received cannot be justified. (Overcharged)
Last month, I got hightlights (chemical service), blow-out, flatironed, and trimmed (my stylist is top level at Aveda, so the price is a little higher) and it was almost the same price as when I got the curly hair cut, and all she (curly hair cutter) did was shampoo, conditioning (treatment), and cut my hair.
Anyway, I don't doubt that your problems came from the method. Everything isn't for everybody & we ultimately have to do what is best, what makes the most sense, and what is healthiest for our hair. You discovered what the problem was and you nipped it in the bud. Way to go!
Your hair is beautiful and the shape is popping, too!
I appreciate you speaking on this topic. Take care!
I appreciate you sharing your experience! Trust me I have learned my lesson you couldn’t even pay me to get a curly cut! As for this video I made it specific so others can have answers when they start getting webbing, Velcro ends! I want them to realize it’s not normal!
I respect you all so much. I am grateful I never really committed to this. I did a ton of research..my high porosity hair would have been a complete disaster.
Thanks for sharing..
I’m sorry that you had a horrible experience. Thankfully, I have an experienced CIK stylists and my hair is in amazing condition. I’m glad you found a method that works for you and pray you are able to heal from this!
Thank you for your genuine kind words! I am very happy you found an amazing stylist I love that for you!
I never got a curl cut, but I did have issues with the velcro ends. My stylist (non-CIK) was trying to get me to deep condition more and use leave it but I was resistant for MONTHS. until one maintenance cut where I had a loooottt of split ends. Decided to start deep conditioning every week and adding a light layer of oil on my ends. I also ended up getting a water filter. My hair is in braids right now but I'm going to start experimenting with using a leave in with my wash n gos
I don't think everything BGC is useless. Washing weekly, detangling with a good tool and clarifying once in a while was good for me. I also realized that adding oil to my hair was making my scalp condition worse
Nope they are not useless!
I’ve been following the BGC method since September 2021. For the first year and a half my hair was thriving but over the last 3 to 4 months I started to experience very dry tumble weed hair. My Wash&Gos went from lasting 5 to 7 days down to 2 or 3 days before turning into a tangled Afro.
I’ve only cut my hair in a stretched state because my daughter who is a licensed cosmologist and is the only person I trust to cut my hair does not know how to do curly cuts so she’s been cutting my hair every 3 months in a stretched state. Because of this I believe I avoided the pitfalls of the curly cut.
However the webbing caused by the extremely dehydrated condition of my hair created by not using a deep conditioner and leave in is something I’m working on reversing now.
Since listening to ShellyV I realized her hair issues resonated with me so
I’ve implemented a deep conditioner and a leave in on my last 2 wash days and I’ve noticed a huge improvement already. I’m currently on day 7 of last W&G and my hair is still defined I can wear it out and didn’t need to wear it in a puff after only 3 days while waiting for 7 days to reset because I’m not washing and styling my hair 2 time within a 7 day period.
I am happy the video was able to help! That’s the reason Shelly and I have shared our experiences! We want people to be aware and not end up with the outcome like we have experienced!
Thank you so much for this . I tried this no butter and no oil method for just three months but started to notice the difference in my hair , not looking as healthy as it was , looking dull and dry . I then decided to stop . Thank God I did . What you are saying just confirmed I made the right decision. 🤗😊🥰
There is a lot happening! I got a dm from a stylist that did the CIK course! She apologized our experience and with her professional knowledge said adjustments needs to be made!
I was following as well. It's been 2 months and my hair is dry to the bone, thinning and webbing, even doing gels in the shower! Tonight, I couldn't take it and applied moisturizers to my brittle ends. Thank you for 'shedding" light
@@reneevalery9449 I am glad you were able to assess that something is happening and make adjustments
Thanks for sharing. I have followed their practices to a tee (cuts, SSC & all) for 2+ years. While I think they are sharing great info, I also have experienced some changes this year.
I’ve been natural my whole life, when I started detangling and hydration drastically improved. Over time, however, I haven’t maintained as much length (although my stylists,OG on the BGC list, knows my goal is length retention). My WNG previously lasted 7 days no problem. Now I’m struggling to maintain hydration, and detangling is a bit tougher. I do have webbing at the ends as well and I do have a water filter.
I started using a leave in about 2 months ago and that has helped. I added a moisture deep conditioner as well. I think a combo of straight & curly cuts are necessary to help with these issues & tweek the shape as needed. Also, leave ins & moisture deep conditioning as needed (many of the recommended products have protein, so many may not need more protein). And only use an all purpose shampoo as needed (AG Balance) & use the moisture poo more frequently.
Also be mindful of how long and often a hooded dryer is used. When using high heat, dry to about 80% and air dry the rest or switch to cool air. The hotter air more the 1 time a week may be extracting a lot of moisture you just put in.
I don’t believe oils & butters are needed outside of what is already formulated in the shampoo, condish & stylers. My scalp agrees, I haven’t had dandruff since I stopped using oils. And I also used to oil my ends & I had breakage at the ends from lack of moisture. I don’t have this issue anymore.
So I believe that they should just tweek their recommendations. I don’t think they are wrong & I’m thankful for the simplicity they’ve brought to my life & the way I care for my children’s hair. With these minor tweaks I suspect I’ll be just fine.
Fun fact my OG level BCG stylist recommended a blow dry cut at the beginning of this year & I didn’t do it. I wish she would’ve explained why & if BGC had explained the reason why this may be necessary, I would’ve done it much sooner. I just followed the “I exclusively WNG” reason for only needing a curly cut.
I also wonder if the change in formula to UFD is far less moisturizing, adding to the decreased moisture and the reason why some of us may need to add a leave in to make up the difference now.
The new UFD formula may indeed be part of the problem. I have heard from others (i.e. Fo Adunni) that it has caused webbing in their hair. I find the new formula problematic b/c glycerin is the 2nd ingredient, and I absolutely cannot use glycerin products in the winter and summer. It also now contains protein so if you're low porosity/protein sensitive, I would think that would be a problem if you are using it week after week.
@@cmw1336what do you use in the winter and summer?
Yes I know some stylists do straight then next curly to make sure of shape and health! Some do once a year for that reason as well! You had a stylist looking out for you! Hopefully you continue to have great experience
@@cmw1336 I have an old & new formula bottle of UFD. I just noticed the new formula states to “Apply Good Hair, Extra Butter, or Supercurl to soaking wet hair…”
The old formula only states “…Apply …soaking wet hair”
Seems as if they acknowledge that the new formula needs a moisturizer/leave in applied first 🤔
This really should be looked into further as it may help with these issues (& not a BGC “deceptive” practice).
@@rosieamelia5955☝️see comment above
Your assessment is the same I’ve noticed on my. I brought back deep conditioning and leave in conditioners.
I’ve been using bond builders curl smith before my shampoo and after k18. Then I rinse and deep condition with heat! My hair is returning and I’m getting inches again. I lost so much hair with this BGC method!!!!! Thank you for your video - folks need to speak out like you!
I am so happy your hair is doing good again! I have no idea what is in that k18 but it’s amazing
Great video! Because of you, Shelly and Narada I went to get my hair assessed and cut on a blowout. My hair has never felt better. I was able to rake through my hair with ease while styling my wash and go. My hair is still recovering but I reintroduced leave ins and deep conditioning. I was on the struggle bus while getting curly cuts. I would have my hair cut in its curly state and struggle raking through my hair. I thought I was doing something wrong. Thank you so much for telling your truth! It definitely helped me.
You are very welcome! I hope your hair recovers
Thank you for this video you broke it down well. I was experiencing the same thing, it's so weird because I genuinely learnt a lot from BGC and I'm still learning but my hair was not in good condition. The fact that they encouraged so many people to use olaplex after a while shows that people' hair was getting bad. I genuinely hope they take this feedback and improve instead of arrogantly dismissing them. I genuinely want better for black businesses.
Yes hopefully hear the experience of ones who are experiencing issues will bring about positive changes, I am optimistic!
Everyone’s hair is different and requires different products or techniques. I wash my hair twice a week and I haven’t noticed any of the issues that you’ve explained. It’s just like Deva Curl products I used them for 2 years or more and never had issues.
Thanks for sharing!! And I know you have had amazing success and I love that for you 💕
Also, Thankyou for making this video. EXTREMELY eye opening. I never subscribed to the curly cutting, but I have been following everything else BGC advised. I have still deep conditioned 1-2/mo. I literally was just about to transition to doing the curly cuts because I want a shape and want to keep heat off my hair. I think you saved my hair life lol. I will continue my cuts on blown out hair. My problem was doing too many perm rods. Perm rods loosened my kinks :(
I think you can still get a curly cut if your intention is shape, and then get straight cuts for maintenance. Like mix and match, maybe one curly cut a year, or do them alternatingly. I still think they're great for shape and you don't need to be scared of them, though I've never gotten one. Speak to your stylist though, alternating them could also bring up issues with length retention so you might still be better off sticking to blow outs.
hi Rosie. Thank you for your truth. I agree with you. Once i started back deep conditioning and using clarifying shampoo my hair drastically improved. I only did one curly cut in September 2020. Straight cuts work best for me. Appreciate your honesty in this video.
Yes we have to do what is best for our individual hair!
I met with my trichologist (a professional who specializes on the health of the hair) who looked at my scalp and hair under the microscope. I was able to see in real time the condition of my scalp and hair. My trichologist informed me that what I was looking at on the screen was product build up (even though I was clarifying monthly) around my hair follicles. She also noted that my scalp & my hair was dry and my ends had thinned out. Now I’m on a hair stabilization program that she’s created to repair my hair. Glad you made us aware of your hair issues. I was doing the wash and go method for one year. I’ve paused the method 2weeks ago. I plan to keep repairing my hair until I see my hair return back to a healthy state.
You’re welcome. I am in the same boat as you with working on repairing my hair
I have always followed my own method, I do what works for my hair period. I have been natural for 10 years and I cut and style my own hair! I get compliments all the time on how good it looks. I cut my hair blown out as needed.
That is awesome!🙌🏾
I applaud your courage in sharing your experience in these internet streets! 😂 I've never had a curly cut and I've always known how to do my own hair. I've learned a lot on youtube and BGC regarding *application* of various stylers. This has been what I've taken away the most from the education. But I've always used what I want on my hair. I think everyone should do the same. There are many methods and philosophies when it comes to haircare and hair cutting. Knowing that allows everyone to choose what works for them until and unless they find it doesn't. Help those that want and ask for help. Content creators should definitely be accountable and/or correct what might have been stated in the past if no longer in agreement with said statements. So I understand the reasons for this video. As consumers of content, I advise everyone to be ever-learning and open. As we say in the church... eat the meat and spit out the bones... always. I pray we all have peace in these naturally-headed streets! 😊
A few that are not experiencing problems are using leave in and deep condition weekly
I’m so glad all of this is coming to light now. I remember saying from the jump that they were rude with their approach and getting backlash from their followers for saying that. Never had fairy knots until I started following BGC. I was waiting for months for my WNG to last the more than 3 days, and thinking it was me doing it incorrectly. I finally stop when my hair started experiencing hydral fatigue and TA DA! coconut oil fixed the problem. Another red flag was them saying "why would anyone want long hair?"uhmm I do, I didn't want to cut my hair that frequently. I went back to what I know and work for years prior to BCG and my hair is thriving.
Hydral fatigue, you hit it on the nail. There was a lot of first hair damage with this so called method. I wish you healthy hair moving forward. I am also happy you were able to catch that something was wrong sooner rather than later.
I did as well but the gaslighting from these stylists 😫. I actually caught win Aug of 2022 and when I discussed it with the stylist ( gaslighting 👀🥺)
@@rosieamelia5955 thank you, and I appreciate you sharing your journey. I’m looking forward to rediscovering the products that work for me. I was doing BCG since 2020 and thought I was doing it incorrectly the entire time. The hydra fatigue this summer is what broke the camel's back for me.
I am so sorry you are experiencing this because honestly it’s going to tsunami some time to get the hair to recover. I just did a big chop and as my stylist warned me I still see the splits. This one was very interesting because the split, split again 🧐!
Most traditional stylist doing hair for many years are floored because they have never seen or experienced this extensive damage from people who were actually getting regular trims and partnering with a stylist.
I hope you can find products that work and overtime be able to cut the unhealthy hair and regain some length
Thank you so much for sharing your true. I have a stylist that is able to keep my hair together. When it is time for a cut, my hair is straight ( this is what works for me) . We use a leave in ( light) and a treatment (deep conditioning) when needed, once a month at least.
I have left messages on their lives but it is dismissed or I have received a not so nice comment. I do appreciate the advice that you have shared and I have learned to keep what works for me and let go of the rest. Keep doing what your doing and I will catch the next video 😊
Thank you, yes let’s do what works!
Ok maybe I’m confused. I also did the 30 day detox but I assumed it was just that…a 30 day detox. After my 30 days I did drop the “heavy” use of oils & butters (still use them for sealing) but I still went right back to my deep conditioners and leave-ins. I recognized right away that I needed to DC & use Lv-ins to keep my hair moisturized for more than 3 days. The main thing I learned is to be more conscious of what’s good for MY hair but after the detox I was done. My hair is thin, low/med density and ranges from 3c to 4b, high porosity(genetics) so I NEED DC& Leave-INs and an oil/butter to seal!!!! And I was afraid , fortunately to trust anyone to give me a “curly cut” , my hair is too low density for someone to Jack up my hair. The problem was we didn’t really know our hair, esp after relaxing for years and jumped on anything.
I have been natural since 2011 or 2010 can’t remember 🤣! But I actually had finally had an amazing routine weekly Shampoo , deep conditioning and styling in a twist out, twist or 90 % perm rod!
I was missing a clarifying shampoo, I should have stopped there 🤷🏽♀️!
But I was really drawn in by wash and go!
I don't understand why natural hair seems to be to dogmatic. I feel as if we over complicate it. Happens time and time again. From gate keeping who is "natural" to saying one set of rules apply to all people.
It's simple. If your hair is:
Dry=condition/moisturize
Weak=strengthen
Brittle=less manipulation/processing
You can wear protective styles, straighten your hair, and wear curl sets as long as you balance it out and don't over do it FOR YOUR HAIR FIBER
I agree we make it so complicated. The routine might have initially cut the wash time down but over time caused more issues and damaged that I had never experienced before.
I went back to my old routine and I am only going to do Wash and go periodically or until I can completely understand what is causing the issues we are all having.
Very illuminating to see that way back in 2006 people were talking about this!! My hair does web somewhat, but I have a full head of highlights so I have to accept that and baby it.
Yes sometimes color I have heard can cause that
I switched to Biolage Ultra Hydra Source shampoo and conditioner. Man! What a difference. No more tangles. I have an appointment for a straight cut and I can’t wait. I need a complete reset. I did curly cuts for 2 years. My hair is so dry. My stylist tried to blame it on braids and protective styles. But my hair has NEVER been this dry. I am so motivated to start over.
I am so sorry . I wish you the best on your journey.
I been using that shampoo and conditioner for the past year and it is truly a game changer!
My approach to BGC as with any other method out there is to take what I think will work for me and leave the rest. So even though I agree with some of their teachings and have really benefited from them, I never intended to stop using leave-ins or deep conditioners b/c I know my high porosity hair needs them.
Also, with re to curly cuts, what I have not heard anyone address is the level of training and experience the person has. Clearly, someone who just got trained as a CIK stylist 3-6 mos ago is not gonna have the same level of experience and expertise with curly cuts as someone who's been doing them for years. I watched a curly cut video by Abena (Embrace Natural Beauty) and Aishia and they literally cut the hair curl by curl so ain't no way they missed anything!
Honestly if more people did this with all the natural hair fads they would be way better off. Instead of blaming anyone for your hair problems use discernment. The only absolute in haircare should be using the appropriate cleanser and getting your ends assessed when needed. There is no one size fits all.
Lesson learned
@NaturalMonroe they were right about not using raw oils and the importance of setting the hair under a hooded dryer tho
This is exactly how I approach hair care. I don't understand blaming ones hair issues on a method no one forces you to apply, discernement is truly a gift. I joined their SSC platform for a month when I went natural a yr ago, took the teaching I thought made sense and have worked for me and left the platform. That said lots of thing they do and say make no sense and I definitely stayed away from that.
@@dollyrevenge98 I understand your point of view and that’s why the group should stop generalizing hair care, this is my documentation, many that are experiencing these issues that like myself, were partnered with a stylist!
We are trusting people who were trained to care for our hair! I am happy you used discernment!
I had always used a leave in prior, professional say it’s a styler without hold and you don’t need it in your routine! This is about webbing however and Velcro ends and ones facing this issue will be able to fix those problems and moving forward know better!
Also I listen to my hair, adding deep conditioner and k18. I decided to go back to caring for my hair with the knowledge I have!
Good luck on your journey
I did the 30 day detox but I continued using deep conditioners and leave in conditioner. I did stop using raw butters and oil and my hair is flourishing. Do whatever works for your hair. Thanks for the video
Thanks for sharing!! You were the smart one 😁! Yes I agree we need to do what works for our individual hair
It is disturbing to me that you have to be explaining, to the point of justifying, the changes you are making to your hair care routine. As a subscriber, I am here for your thick, beautiful hair, your journey, your laid back detailed reviews and explanations, and your chill personality. I watched your videos even though we don't use the same products. For example, I don't use gels. I only use a leave in and cream or leave in and mousse for my wash and gos and I deep condition twice per month. I also use sulfate shampoos. My wash and gos are very defined, tangle-free and last 7 to 10 days. I cut my hair wet with leave in conditioner similar to my relaxed hair days, so no blow out or curly cuts. Rosie, please continue to do what works for your hair! I will be watching your future videos. I also look forward to seeing how much length you retain once you start growing your hair.
Thank you 💕
Honestly I think they would've been better off just telling people to go back to sulfates. A lot of people live in hard water areas and no, shower filters do not soften water. Hard water mineral buildup on the hair can be devastating to hair and scalp. Sulfates work WAY better in hard water than these sulfate alternatives. Once I figured this out I did a chelating (not clarifying, 2 different things) treatment to remove the build up then switch over to sulfates. My hair did a complete 180. Tried it on both my son and daughter and same results.
@@cfoster6804 I will never stop using my sulfate shampoo. It cleans my hair and scalp so well. My hair is healthy and long. I attained mid-back length hair with trims/cuts every 3 to 4 months since I big chopped to a twa March 2019.
You know what is funny my sister has been using one(sulfate shampoo)! She told me it’s nice because it removes and gives your hair a reset, her hair is beautiful shiny and healthy! She also encourages leave in and deep conditioner! However my sister let me be, and she never said I told you so!
Listen I cannot say enough that I feel duped! It’s very sad! Also when I found out the Owner said she studied us , that made me feel even worse! I am not a subject😭! It’s very hurtful, especially with the reminder that your hair is damaged! And her laughing and taking it lightly is even worse 👀‼️There are so many emotions 🤷🏽♀️!
But I am so happy you mentioning sulfate shampoo ! It’s important that we share so we can grow together as a community!
Ok ! Soo i have experienced the opposite of everything you have talked about in the video . So for some context, my first big chop was in 2018 , i grew my hair to bra strap length .I started following black girl curls at the end of 2019 for awhile , and i was even in their digital hair club or whatever lol My hair before this was a bit damaged (mechanical), but also very dehydrated. I wasnt washing weekly , i was using leave ins , and my hair could never do a wash n go because it was as if nothing would stick to my hair . Though i wasnt clarifying like i should have but thats another thing. lol bgc really helped me understand the basics of hair care from a type 4 perspective . Even though my hair started to come around and i even found a curly stylist through them , my hair was just to dehydrated and after i caught covid my hair really went down hill .Fast forward to sept 2022 , i big chopped for a 2nd time because i wanted healthy hair and a fresh start . I still had velcro ends even though i was getting trims on blown out hair . Nothing still made since until i met my next curly stylist in march 2023 . She gave me my first wash and set and gave me a shape /cut , and my hair felt the best it ever has in my life . No webbing , no fairy knots nothing !! Now i saw you and shelly talking about curly cuts and how they could be damaging so i talked to my stylist and she told me that if i wanted to get a trim on blown out hair that it would be no problem , so we did that. Baby the knots that i had from that blow out trim were horrible 😢 i had webbing , fairy knots , velcro ends it was crazy . They have since gotten better , it took about 3 washes and deep conditions to get it back to normal . What my stylist said about this : "So, the con about swaying from a wash n go is that your hair has to sort of relearn the curls. Lots and lots of water, before you start and while conditioning. Dependent on how well you're detangling, the knots can come, especially because you have so much hair". So with all this being said , i dont think the bgc method is horrible, i actually think it works for alot of us type 4 girls , just like it may not work for other type 4 girls . I think painting a broad X over them is definitely harmful , just because you have experienced a negative outcome . Your experience is valuable and i think it can help alot of women who are experiencing the same things as you have. As for curly cuts i havent experienced a con , when i got a trim on blown out hair in june , i was 4 months out she only had to trim 1/2 inch off . My next curly cut is in sept , so ill see if my hair feels like it did after the blown out trim . Then ill get a silk press in December and ill reassess then . Thanks for the video and the information . ❤
You’re very welcome, everyone experiences might be different hopefully can mitigate and find a way to make changes! I am very happy your experience is great and I wish you well in your hair journey!
I always thought bgc method wasn’t correct and their attitude needs a lot to be desired. People need to learn how to take care of their hair. These companies and stylist want to get your money. I’ve been natural way before the natural hair movement. I’ve grown my hair with oil and butters and again without. There is more than one way to manage and grow your hair. You don’t have to maintain your own hsir but you do need to know how so if and when you have setbacks you can get over them.
Agreed!
It's not about growing hair it's About having hydrated hair, the truth is that raw oils aren't water soluble
Thank you for expressing your truth. It is hard at time to go against the grain and be the the odd person out. It's better to stand alone than being a constant "YES MAN' because of being afraid of being persecuted.
I also feel I don’t have the liberty like others to walk away! I have shared how amazing this method was , but that’s before I realized what was actually happening to my hair without being aware!
I believe in speaking the truth no matter what! I have to admit I did expect some of the repercussion and bullying!
There's another RUclipsr that has gone back to deep conditioner and leave ins. I'm currently using the Kinkycurly leave in and custard. Just ordered a couple deep conditioners to try out. Thanks for the video.
Yes they are necessary 🤷🏽♀️
I also think people don't necessarily understand the meaning of humectant. In this case Google is your friend. Humectants draw moisture from whatever source is readily available. For instance hyaluronic acid is a humectant, and if it's in a formulation for skin or Hair it has to be paired with water so that it won't actually draw water out of your hair or skin.
So think about it this way. Let's say you live in a dry climate like the mountainous area of Denver or somewhere in the Southwest, and you are just putting humectant gel on bare naked hair right after you've washed it. The humectant is to draw the moisture out of your hair strands, because the moisture in the air is so low. But even if you live in a high humid area like the South or the North East, the closest place for that humectant based gel to get moisture or water is literally on your hair strands. And then you top all that off with a diffuser or a hood dryer? It is no wonder everybody's hair is dehydrated! This is a method that cute every once in awhile for style, but it is not a long-term solution.
I wonder if that’s why Shelly’s hair is more damaged than my hair
@@rosieamelia5955 I do not know, but from everything that I'm hearing I think that rather than spending the money on Curly Cuts people should spend the money on going to a trichologist, and get recommendations from a professionally trained scientist.
The CIK I went to is also a trichologist
I also wanted to add that a CIk who did the course decided not to apply this method. She is also a cosmetic chemist and she did s story sharing what was going on
@@rosieamelia5955 😬That's distressing. I'm glad she decided not to do this method. I'm not a professional, but everything I learned from professionals fliesin the face of these recommendations. You're right in that should have just stopped with shampoo your hair regularly. All that other stuff seems extreme to me.
Thank you for sharing your experience. i think i am going to incorporate blow out trims twice a year to make sure i am addressing hair health. I just received my second curly cut and my hair is thriving my wash and go's last longer and i dont have flaking from products. So i do think tips I have received from BGC have been helpful but everyone's hair is different. Oils and butters my hair hated it and now I found a process that works for me. Its all trial and error my stylist is great and super informative (not negating your experience).
Your very welcome🙏🏾! I want to share that I never into the raw oils or butters! The problem is the Velcro ends, webbing and split ends with getting frequent trims! Just pay attention to your hair and communicate with your stylist! I wish you well on your journey 💕
So I still remember the maximum hydration method that I followed several years back that destroyed my hair so these curly hair protocols are not new. I started trying their method just to see if I could finally attain a wash and go after all these years and I have. HOWEVER, I immediately noticed my hair was webbing and velcroing and I knew it was because of my hair lack of a leave in. I used the Mizani miracle milk and it’s the perfect lightweight leave in. Since I’m still practicing, I’ve been taking note of the all the products and my technique. None of the shampoos recommended worked for me, and my hair stylist told me to look at the formalization. I noticed aloe Vera in all of them and my hair hates it because it feels like I’m layering on a ton of protein treatments. I use the old school Mizani and KerCare shampoo and conditioner and I have the Mizani leave in or the Olaplex number 6 if I’m blow drying my hair. I will definetly had my leave in back but I would never drop my deep conditioner. My stylist trims my hair every 3 months blown out. I don’t use oils because I don’t need them anymore but I took the best of this method but I will not follow these women. I also noticed how condescending they were and I’m not new in these curly method streets so I will not follow blindly. My hair was growing really well before I incorporated wash and go but I do love having it as a style option so I don’t have to blow dry my hair every week.
I am happy you were able to adjust, I had never had that experience so it was a first! I hope you get what you desire on your health hair journey!
Wow. I couldn't figure out what was causing the tangles in my roots (webbing). I've followed BGC for 2 years. So I got rid of my leave ins and didn't deep condition weekly. I commend them for how they've created a space for us to be confident showing up in our natural hair. And I've had the best twist outs!! However, the issues I had after my CIK curly cut were never fully answered in SSC library. To me, the responses felt like we the consumers are to blame for what's happening to our hair: applied the products wrong, hair needs a cut, the condition of our hair. When I added a leave in spray to my wash and go, it eliminated the webbing! I no longer get curly cuts. Only blown out cuts by an amazing beautician! Thank you for making this video! You and Shelley are amazing for sharing your experience. I'm glad I'm not the only one who had detrimental impacts of those curly cuts!
You’re very welcome! I am happy you were able to get the webbing taken care of!
This was very informative. I’ve learned as you said, you have to do what works for your hair.
My hair has always looked better to me with a leave in. I’ve noticed actually I love the Camille Rose Mousse as a leave in. The curly cuts just never was appealing to me. I just preferred a blow out and trimming my ends. I have learned some great things with BGC but as most things in life. You will use information as you please and do with you’d like best for yourself.
I’ll keep watching.
Absolutely!!
I’ve never heard of K-18. I’m ordering now! Thank you. I REALLY appreciate your help.
Hope you enjoy it! It really helped a long with me managing my hair
I also asked the issue on their live stream but she couldn’t give any reasonable response.
At this point I have decided to listen to my hair
I am solving this issue by deep conditioning weekly for a start
I am using curls blueberry bliss leave in. And I am just taking care of my hair without listening to anybody anymore.
Why would you as a stylist even come out and condemn leave in. And say our 4c hair should strive on gels alone , Gels!!!
Yes never too old to learn sis❤️
hi,
high Ph level of a product or ingredients can cause webbing. high Ph will raise the hair cuticle.
So I asked a CIK the question and this is her response Hello! There would be a lot more info I’d need to know about what’s going on with the hair to determine the cause. That being said, a level of velcroing on the ends is normal for a lot of us depending on the elements of our hair. For me, velcroing will always just be a part of life no matter if my hair was just cut or not. It’s something that isn’t as impactful of an issue as long as I’m being consistent with my washes, avoiding products that can lead to dehydration, and am smoothing as much as possible during the conditioning step in particular. Occasionally something like Olaplex (not any of the numbers with silicones - more like number 2 or number 3) could be helpful
And this is the info I found when I did an independent research 🤣Google: www.curlcentric.com/hair-webbing/
Then another CIK stated something about dehydration and something in regards to the lipid layer!
I am very intrigued by your comment! I am definitely going to do some more research maybe at the library from more research materials!
@@rosieamelia5955 ok purchase the pH strips. Dripping the pH strips in your Ayurvedic ingredients will help you to discover how to lower or raise the pH of your products or mixture.
The pink lipstick makes you look like barbie!!
❤️, thank you love 💕
Thank you for sharing. I’ve experienced my hair declining for months. To be fair I bleached my hair but the way my hair became so dry and unmanageable even after using olaplex and deep condition. My hair was so happy when I used a leave in again but the curly hair stylist insisted that I shouldn’t need it. But I think I will do what feels good for my hair. I also just bought k18. Thank you so mich
You are so welcome💕. I am interested in knowing why your stylist insists on not using a leave, I also would think she would recommend you using deep conditioner.
I came to realize I need deep conditioner and leave in. I just love how my hair looks overtime.
Hopefully you and your stylist can come up with a routine that will address all your hair needs.
Thank you for the truth! I experienced the same problems from these methods.
Glad it was helpful!I am sorry you had this experience because it can be discouraging!
Thanks for the information☀️💕 beautiful!!
You are so welcome!!
All of this! I followed their method and within 5 months my hair was so dry and I couldn’t figure out why. I just went back to doing everything my mom (also a cosmetologist) had done to grow my hair out and my hair is finally getting back to a healthy and hydrated state. I use grease& I will continue to do so.
I am glad you noticed quickly and made changes. I didn’t stop because when I shared what was happening go the curly cut stylist ( gaslighting 🤣🤣🤣). It was until after sharing the messages with a few friends they are like Rosie , Really 🙈. So I am someone that documents things. Am a firm believer in using text or email to communicate so there is evidence 🤣🤣🤣.
I have my evidence
I thought about getting a curly cut but the price and all the stipulations before your appointment was a huge turn off. I stayed with my og stylist who took care of my relaxed hair and she straight cuts my hair for $25-30 and I'm happy.
I am happy you didn’t adventure to getting those cuts
Speak your truth, Rosie. I love their wash and go method, but I never gave up deep conditioning because I didn't like how my hair felt with just a rinse-out conditioner. I have never understood why they are so rude and dismissive when paying clients ask valid questions about their methods.
Because we allow them 😁! We give people the power to treat us in a certain manner!
Aisha didn’t say use your finger nails to scrub your scalp, she said she uses her nails because she has Sebrum build up. She said special for us to use the tip out fingers. I went back and watched the video to be sure.
You are correct. She said it’s what she does to address her issue & that others should NOT use their finger nails.
Yes she said that but that was very troubling watching, she also was demonstrating the detangling process very rough and that again was troubling, next when she was attempting to rake the products through she couldn’t get her fingers through certain sections and had to keep adding products!
Maybe it’s because of the color and that was causing the tangles and difficulty to get through the hair! Just wanted to make sure my observation were right!
This is why I didn’t get much from the library! I guess I was expecting more professional videos since there was a cost for the library!
If you have gained much benefit I am happy! Hopefully you have an amazing journey!
Thank you so much Rosie for having courage and so much class to speak out. I highly commend you for owning your truth with integrity because you’ve never defamed the founders or orchestrated for the BGC method to be attacked, even when they attacked you in such a way which could have been demoralising.
I followed the BGC method for over 6 months and I believe it is not practical for at home maintenance over a prolonged period - it will always inevitably damage the persons cuticle overtime and make the hair porous. I also believe that when the stylists were encouraging for the hair to lay flat in the shower - that was actually a sign of damaged cuticles that became more porous to water. I followed the method and even though I kept weekly bi-monthly masks and cream leave-ins, I noticed that my ends became porous a lot more faster and I experienced incomplete splits in random parts of my hair. If I had not made those adjustments to the method (which may have been ridiculed by the founders), I would have developed tea tree splits/webbing.
The only benefit of the BGC method I believe is that it should remain an in house salon treatment (I.e such as when you will only do olaplex 1 + 2 in a salon) when a stylist believes the persons hair is in balanced health or should solely be a 14-30 day detox when a persons hair does not thrive with being moisture trained from washing there hair once a week and they want to transition to a routine that gives balanced health.
Again, it is impractical and unsafe to do this method with recurrent frequency or longer than a 30 day period. I also believe that with the grace that you and Shelley demonstrated, this learning curve could have made the movement stronger with them developing adjustments for at-home maintenance rather than choosing to ridicule customers and blaming the client.
Thank you again for owning your truth and best wishes for your natural hair journey.
**bi-monthly masks and weekly cream leave ins
Thank you for this comment, it’s so encouraging. So funny enough, I was watching a young lady doing a video and she said watch me as I do my high porosity hair 👀, it finally clicked that the method had made my hair become porous.
So you said some valid points and validate some of what I was thinking.
This experience has made me mistrust stylists and their integrity. I will have to cut my hair very short because I am still having issues with my hair. No amount of deep conditioner is going to fix it. It just needs to be cut so I can have easy wash days and healthy hair ✅.
Thank you for sharing your experience .
Thanks for sharing your truth!❤
You are so welcome ! If you honestly knew what is truly going on , I will always keep it 💯!
Thank you for sharing with us. I started doing the no oils and butters back in 2019. I just automatically started incorporating deep conditioners and leave ins. The only thing that I was not using was raw oils and butters. I stopped using gels as well. Now I incorporate oils into my routine. I agree with you!
The only long term receipt was us, it’s very unfortunate
Thank you Thank you 🙏
Everyone will come to see for themselves as time goes on
Exactly!
I appreciate so much sharing your experience. I've been following your journey for a while and I know you're a diligent person so I knew you weren't doing anything wrong. When I got to know BCG I was already doing pretty much what they were preaching (the cleansing part) . I do admit that I skip leave in and partly using deep conditionner (I was using doing a session whenever I would use a clarifier). When I heard about the debate on people having issues and there response was not satisfying I felt disapointed. There professionnal so that's why many trusted them. Clearly their method is not meant for everyone. I feel like because a lot follower like their ways we were not allowed to question them. I don't it's right for me it's like a mob mentality. When I watched one of your videos two months ago it solodify what I wax experiencing (becauseI stick to a routine). I reintroduce leave in and using more deep contionning. Now I know was having webing.. Thank for sharing with us ressources. Ironnicaly they a have a new challenge and they say you can use a leave in (lol) .
Yes I wonder what happened to her very words where she said “leave in has no purpose in hair care! “ well she now is using leave in on styles she never used it on before so at least she learned something from RUclips University!
I am very disappointed in their whole approach to our questions!
@@rosieamelia5955 Omg 😆 so true
So glad I found this video! I recently quit the bcg method due the reasons you spoke of! I looked back at my pre bgc hair when I used oils and butters and co washed my high porosity hair, even bleached it and it was thriving! I have not retained length or moisture withe the bgc method- as a matter of fact I stopped bleaching my hair because not deep conditioning weakly left my hair damaged and with see through ends: my waist length curls destroyed. Hair is not hair like they said. That’s like saying skin is skin- trust me my dry skin needs special treatment just like my high porosity curls need oils and butters and dc. Omg girl- thank you! I thought it was me. They were so condescending and made us all feel foolish- well we were for listening to that nonsense- but never again- back to the old way for me. I wish you the best on your hair journey ❤
I am so sorry! Yes color definitely needs treatment and deep conditioning! Hopefully you can grow your hair back healthy
@@rosieamelia5955 thank you! I will definitely clarify my hair with shampoo because it has great benefits but not deep conditioning and using only gel was not beneficial to my length and moisture retention. I really got behind the less is more concept but this really was not it. Stay blessed and speak your truth because chances are it’s someone else’s truth who can relate and make sense of what is happening to their hair. 🙏🏽🙏🏽
@thecalimami thank you💕
Tbh the same heat they came out with addressing influencers, making fun and snide comments basically saying they had all the answers and influencers were sh*t...is amazing their followers are complaining with how these ladies are airing their views😂😂😂😂 views that aren't even half as condescending as theirs
Oop 😮
I've followed their methods and my hair is better than ever tbh they've taught me about alot
Exactly! 💯 Especially, this influencer and RUclips bashing was super hard! And it’s funny how some of their militant followers basically told everyone not following their routines they’ve got damaged hair. 😵💫
Exactly
Thank you for this video. I've been following their method for a year. My hair definitely is more hydrated and I'm not experiencing breakage the same way I was in the past, but I keep getting split ends no matter what I do. I don't even do curly cuts. I started using leave in today and a light oil to seal my ends. I'm going to start deep conditioning too. I'm going to see if that helps with the split ends.
You're so welcome! Hopefully the little changes will help to keep the splits a bay
Split ends are inevitable, they are going to happen no matter what. It happens in all types or hair.
@@misssterling3094 true but I was trimming my hair every 4 weeks and had split ends in 80% of the hair I could see. I also had holes in my strands. It shouldn’t be that bad. I started deep conditioning and using leave in conditioner for the last month. I have way less split ends now. It really helped a lot for my fine strands. They needed the extra support.
Those Curly Cuts are not the move! I avoid them and let my mother cut my ends. I still love my Wash and Gos and use mainly the products my curl specialist uses. I have added a leave in conditioner and I like it.
My OG level CIK stylist always recommended I deep condition every 6 weeks (though I think I need it more often right now).
BCG always shared basic hair care & then recommended you see a professional & follow their advice specifically tailored to your needs. Seems like this may have been a miss on your stylists part. Not BGC. However, you admitted in this video that you did not share your concerns with your stylists to give her an opportunity to address it. It takes communication on both parts for optimal results. So it may not be fair to blame your stylists.
I agree some things may need to be tweaked. Overall, I believe BGC’s intention is excellent & I’m appreciative. And thank you for sharing as I’ve paid closer attention to my hair.
Well I was seeing an OG level CIK ! And she gave good information! Are you referring to my 2nd cut? If so I went back to my old stylist that has always done my hair! I don’t see that necessary to do that since I don’t see the need to get curly cuts for my hair! If I was desiring to continue I would have that discussion!
When my hair was difficult to detangle I thought it was because of getting it cut curly and the unevenness was causing the issues! I had no idea that it was because my cuts were not addressing all the split ends! Also because everyone who I would watch were experiencing these issues even A in see some curls in her tutorial it seemed normal!
I am privy to certain information, most who are experiencing ( webbing, Velcro ends , difficulty detangling) are partner with a CIK stylist! Something is missing! They need to work to improve certain aspects if they are going to speak in absolute!
I think also if they stopped at proper shampooing, that would have been helpful!
Well for me the trust has dissipated, I no longer trust their expertise to where my hair is concerned!
Many have had their routine changed by their stylist because of these very discussions! Most of us have been living with webbing thinking it’s normal and the Velcro ends, this video is for awareness so they can talk to their stylist and adjust their routine!
Even though many take offense to these videos it is helping to bring about changes that will benefit those who decide to embark on doing the detox!
As professionals they should no be speaking in absolute, had I not started to use my knowledge my hair would have broken off!
Since most have started to put deep conditioning back into their routine the group BGC has made it a point to make fun of us!
Funny enough I have another close friend who is a stylist and she told me That with the nature of our hair deep conditioners are necessary, you don’t have to every week but it’s necessary!
Also the question was asked about webbing and Velcro ends , it was quite simple to say your hair is just dry and dehydrated go use a moisture deep conditioner and start using a leave in🤷🏽♀️!
When a group speak in absolute be prepared to take the blame for damaging women hair!
Funny enough the narrative is made that RUclips university is damaging women’s hair by the Group BGC! They claimed they had the answers! That wasn’t the case!
@@rosieamelia5955 In this video you state that you never asked your CIK stylist about webbing & Velcro ends …you consulted Google.
I asked on the live with BGC and they had no answers! Yes I am very happy I consulted google! Also I had another curly friend who had her appointment and the CIK stylist couldn’t answer the question! She too was experiencing webbing!
Again if you don’t have any concerns or have experience any of these issues why so vocal in this comment section?
You are in a sense dismissing my experience and blaming me for what has happened to my hair even though I was under the care of a CIk stylist trained OG by BGC!
Also I know you would expect that the A’s cutting skills might be up yo par but Clients experience says differently!
All I am saying is they need to implement changes, do more training or just go back to the drawing board!
I am going to assume this was not their desire outcome for this but it obviously not keeping hair health in mind for all their clients!
Also BGC should be happy I googled it because now all of a sudden We went from “Leave in has no purpose in hair care.” This is what BGC convinced this girl in their comment section! The young lady eventually caved to their persistence! So with that behavior some accountability must be taken! Also let’s agree to disagree!
@@rosieamelia5955To answer your question- I have been vocal on this comment section to provide facts & balance to the discussion. I have never “dismissed” your experience. In fact, I shared that some of your recent hair challenges I have also experienced and I”thank [ed] you for sharing.”
The difference, however, as also stated by others, some of your references regarding BGC were not my interpretation of their teachings. This is where I added the balance to this discussion. These ladies have definitely shifted the culture of hair/hair care and it’s not fair nor conducive to bash them (& they shouldn’t have bashed you as well). For example, although I have always been a healthy natural I NEVER thought I could wear a WNG. Now it’s my exclusive style. That’s major and many have experienced this new found style and/or increased longevity.
On the other hand you and others have also contributed to the shift in culture to reevaluate hair needs over time with exclusive WNG styling. Now, the act of curly cutting does not damage hair- as the way the scissor is used is the same as on straight cutting (it’s not a razor cut motion, etc.). So this is not damaging the hair. Now if all of the damaged ends are not removed, then this is the issue. But the act of curly cutting itself does not damage the hair - this is where what you’ve communicated can be misinterpreted.
Now the leave-in, deep conditioner debate is clear. BGC has both of them documented on their recommended list. This proves that they were never against their use. Instead, they took a universal approach during discussions to get everyone back to the basics of learning their hair 1st, then assessing what’s needed. And unless a person was a SSC subscriber. I don’t think it’s fair to even weigh in on this part of the BGC teachings. What they share on a IG live is a small snippet, the full teachings are in their paid materials. As everyone may not need these products or may only need them sparingly, or more often. Plus it should not be overlooked that the change if UFD formula -removing moisturizing properties, which may contribute to need need for additional moisturizing agents for some people (and perhaps the issues you & I both experienced). The formula change was only about 1 year ago & it would’ve taken some time for these issues to present themselves, not a BGC deceptive issue.
To wrap this up, BGC should have handled you & Shelly’s concerns better as they are VERY valid. I think they are now tweaking and reassessing/clarifying what they recommend, as they should.
Hope you better understand my comments. I’m not a “cult” member, just a balanced thinker😊
I didn’t mean to be offensive! I just want everyone to be aware sometimes Comments can be misinterpreted! This is a very difficult time for me personally with this whole situation! Looking at messages from ladies with almost waist length hair having to big chop because of damaged hair , who are getting trimmed from CIK puts things into perspective!
Like myself and the women who now bears the trauma from this experience it’s very difficult to read some of these expressions! Understandably it’s sometimes difficult to understand when we have not ourselves experiencing the same things!
I hope we can both kindly agree to disagree! Have a wonderful Sunday!
Deep conditioners are a staple for me. I might skip like once a month if I really need to get my hair styled quickly but my hair just loves a weekly. OG naturals just gotta do what we’ve learned works for us.
Yes we absolutely have to start doing what works for our individual head of hair. One size doesn’t fit all.
Thanks for sharing your experience with us. I have been following and getting the curly cut for 2 years now. My hair felt amazing at first then I started experiencing all the things you described. During my last hair appointment with the same stylist that gives me curly cuts( she is amazing, I love her) I chose to have my hair cut in a blown out state and boy oh boy, we had to take 3 inches off. We plan to have the next cut done on blown out hair to determine that was the best for my type of hair( fine high density hair, tightly coiled). Please have an open mind if you having issues with your hair.
I am so happy you spoke with your stylist and she fixed your hair ! I appreciate you sharing because this can help others to get their hair assessed by their stylist!
My CIK stylist was great, I will forever not blame her because I honestly think she had no idea that all these things were happening to the hair! I am happy you got your hair assessed! I hope you have a amazing journey moving forward with your CIK stylist!
Thank you for doing this video and holding firm in your belief and sharing your story . Both you and Shelly are to be commended because these internet streets are wild . The minute someone has a difference of opinion or experience it’s a problem . Not sure if you saw my earlier response but I too have reimplemented deep conditioners , leave ins and will do a combination of straight and curly cuts . Looking forward to watching your progress
Thank you 🙏🏾
Thank you for sharing. I implemented some BGC but not all. Curly cuts never made sense to me. I went to a stylist who would blow dry my hair before cutting. Just made sense to me
You are so welcome! I am happy you stick with blow dry cuts!
Thank you so much for posting this. I saw Neruda first then Shelly now I’m watching this. I plan to get a blow out last week.
I do have a side note about nails on the scalp. I’ve discussed with aishia before that I have a very oily scalp so I have to use my nails to cleanse my scalp of all the sebum I get. I’m not scratching up my skin just gentle agitation. I actually stopped watching the lives as often bc ig isn’t pop out friendly and I hate it. I’m not scared to tag nobody tho.
Thank you for explaining agitation of the scalp. I wish you the best in your hair journey ❤️.
Very Telling Sis!!! ❤
While I can appreciate how upsetting this experience has been for you and many others, I don't think's fair to say that the entire methodology is bogus. Many women have been helped and their hair is thriving. Just like no one can negate your experience, you can't negate others successful experiences. Now I do believe that you sharing your experience has exposed a significant weakness in the cutting method. Ends can hide in curl clumps and it's incumbent upon the stylists to be very thorough. It's really easy to miss. I don't think the problem has been adequately addressed because of how everyone is communicating. Alot of emotions involved.
For me I'm not on the wash and go train. I've never felt adept with gels. I've been alot more aware of my ends because my hair is usually stretched. But I did benefit from some of their teachings and my stylist was fantastic. Yes I agree that how they communicated their process, it often came across as condescending to other methods. I also listened to other stylists and I tried to incorporate what I learned from everyone. Every process and product has a purpose and a place. Even BGC will admit to that.
I may have missed this detail in the previous videos, but how has your previous CIK stylist responded to all of this?
Everyone keeps wanting to blame the stylist, if that’s the case all these stylists are going to need to put their sheers down! The problem is not just coming from one specific stylist it quite a bit of ladies experience this issue!
Rosie did not say their entire method was bogus. She said some of their methods did not work for her. And that BGC has been dismissive & condescending to curlies who critique their methods.
@@rosieamelia5955I ask about your stylist response because she was the one caring for you hair. The stylists are implicated because they are the professionals. There are quite a few ladies that have had this experience and there are also a lot of women who have not. Because of the styling method and the cutting method employed by CIK stylists, it is not a farfetched conclusion that some stylists were not thorough in cutting. If you needed other treatments, your stylist should have been able to notice that as well. I’m also not wanting you to blame anyone. I just wanted to know if she has responded because you were her client.
@@msdivaI agree that their tone is problematic and that they didn’t handle this concern well at all. I’m sad for everyone. Because I believe this could’ve been handled much better. Things didn’t have to devolve in this manner.
Listen with every business, or business practices, when we speak in absolute and talk down that every other method is incorrect! As professionals make fun of women who have noticed issues and put deep conditioner in their routine!
Be ready to accept the consequences and blame! Remember deep conditioners would not have been removed and leave in has it not for their persistence!
This group BGC was aware but did they try to save people’s hair! No
They could be just as loud and answer in the comments that deep condition was necessary! And possibly adding a leave in and that it seems the hair is dehydrated and needs more moisture than a gel! And I don’t see the need to have the discussion because I will no longer be going to stylist that they recommend!
I used to be on the long hair care forum. Anyway I hope your issues get solved Rosie.
Well I guess I need to hit you up! I am nosy🤣🤣🤣
Thanks for this video. I agree with you. I don’t understand why some stylists would do curly cuts on all hair textures. Regarding your research, the first link states that we should seal our hair with oils or butters. This is one thing (for me, the main thing) in the 30 day detox. Have you gone back to using those oils or butters as sealants?
I have gone back to my routine prior to starting the detox by adding my leave in and deep conditioner. (It worked for me greatly)I was never a fan of the loc method! I shampoo weekly like I have Always ! My hair length health was impeccable then I just needed to clarify! That’s what most people are missing I honestly believe!
BGC is gaslighting us into thinking that dry, lack luster hair is good. Then further gaslighting us when our dry hair starts breaking. I stopped using heavy oils years ago on the advice of my personal hair stylist and instead using light finishing oils. Found BGC and they convinced me to go further. But never using oils or leave ins is extreme. Following their method gave me my biggest hair set back. Cut my hair into a bob and continued using BGC and had to cut into a bob again after another round of damage. I’m back to using deep conditioner weekly, a leave in and a light oil and bond repairs and it’s fixed my hair.
I am sorry that happened to you, it’s such an unfortunate situation for many of us who followed these so called professionals. All my years being natural I have never damaged my hair but the moment Professional curly Specialist entered the picture my hair is big chopped 😔.
I hope you can have a smooth journey growing back your hair healthy. 🙏🏾
The flash drying has been a problem for me. As soon as I put in a gel like UFD it feels like straw. I have been getting a lot of fairy knots as well. I use a foam and I Create Hold as a topper. I will be adding the Olaplex leave in from now on.
Yes this method didn’t do my hair just
Thank you for sharing your story!
You are so welcome!
I appreciate you sharing your experience. Different perspectives on hair care help people make decisions.. However I think it is unfair to assume that people who are having success and enjoying their experience with Black Girl Curls/Cut it Kinky are somehow being deceived, misled or uninformed. 12:00
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I wish you success with the adjustments to your routine.
Never, I clearly stated if you are having success keep doing your routine! That’s something I always advise in majority of my videos! There is no one size fits all! I wish you well in your journey to your goal cut and length!
Untwisted you also made a video on an issue with a deceiving title , you clearly stated you have not had a cut, she is different in that she is consistent in her routine and she obviously favor no splits ends which seems not important to you. This is her experience, she clearly stated if you enjoy your routine keep doing it!
@@mdcolors1574it's not the title or her experience I watched the whole video. She said that if someone said this was working she would think they are lying also said people are wearing rose colored glasses. That's the difference I believe Rosie is having a hard time/ difficult experience...and straight cuts are working for her. Truly respect her decisions. Really anyone who wants to cut hair blown out or any of the differing techniques really.
No you obviously have some problems because that is not what she said! I would rather take hair advice over here. You were very messy in your comment JS! I will take advice from someone like Rosie that clearly take care of her hair! For someone who admits to not getting regular trims you should not speak on this 😎messy
@@mdcolors1574 I'm not being messy she literally said those things in her video. Enjoy your journey.
I had the same problem, so bad i just went back to my locs. Since it was gripping up anyway. 👍🏾✌🏾
💯 , my Stylist that cuts my hair straight just locked her hair and she loves it! I have always wanted to but cannot commit!
What turned me off with their method is the way they were condescending to people just because some of us use oil. And the fact that they are inventing litteral scenarios of why oils are bad. They say the "science proves it " but never provide any paper. Also the pro bgc are like : "without oil my wash day is 1h " But their hair isn't long anyway so what was so long to begin with ? It wasn't the oil lmao.
Yes the blonde A does turn people off with how she handles things! I will say there Shampoo routine can help ones ! I feel otherwise do your routine how it benefits your hair! The method led me to remove important things from my routine! When I tell you I have learned my lesson 👀 I HAVE! I left one problem and picked up so many other issues that severely damaged my hair health!
Hi, I have a question about your blown out cuts. Are you only blowdrying and cutting, or are you getting a blowdry AND silkpress for your cuts? I usually get my ends cut on silk pressed hair but I started doing it on blow dried hair without the silk press because I wanted to eliminate as much heat as possible because I was getting perm rod sets and my kinks started loosening up on the ends, and I figured if I stop silk pressing for my trims, along with stopping the perm rod sets, that I could help stop my curls from loosening like they started doing. I also want to add that when I get my ends trimmed on silk pressed hair versus blown out hair, my ends stay in much better condition for longer than when I do it on just blown out hair without the silk press.
I am glad this video was helpful! So I only get my hair silk press once per year! I actually did perm rods because I absolutely loved them ! They were my go to before following BGC! Yes too many silk press will cause your hair to loosen in texture, this is why I do it once per year to get a healthy cut! It definitely gets you a better cut
As someone who has been doing this method for over 2 years here's some things I am tweaking:
Cleanse: Trying not to overcleanse whether that be not using all-purpose cleansers meant to be used every 7 to 10 days twice a week as I wash every 3 to 4 days because of normal scalp build up and an active lifestyle. I need to lean more on my moisturizing shampoo and perhaps even a cleansing conditioner like Curl Junkie Daily Fix. I think overcleansing in my experience can leave my hair too squeaky and in need of deep conditioning.
Condition: I haven't needed to deep condition in these two years and I think that largely has to do with using well-formulated conditioners. But if I overcleanse then I will need to deep condition because my hair cuticles will be too raised and will make styling harder to do in terms of smoothing and or defining my curls.
Style: I haven't had issues with the hooded drier. I also alternated using a diffuser as well either to set entirely or after sitting under the hooded drier for 15 to 20 minutes and finishing the roots with a diffuser.
Extra: I tried leave-ins here and there but I felt they all just made my hair not set properly or be frizzier and less defined and I didn't like my styling outcome with them in the mix except occasionally and a very small amount when doing a twist-out. Also I found after my second curly cut that I need blown-out cuts in-between my curly cuts and I was able to talk with my specific cut it kinky stylist and they were cool with me seeing them twice a year (every 6 months) and my ends have been fine. I did it because I also noticed the ends weren't great after a month, horrible after 2 months and hanging on after 3. If my ends are cut properly I should be able to go at most 4 months without needing another trim but to be on the safe side I cut every 3 months so 4 times a year me twice and then him twice and if we both do our jobs right there isn't much to cut.
I am happy you were able to adjust your routine where needed! I wish you the best in your hair journey💕
I deep condition one week and use a rinse out the next, unless my hair feels dry. I have always used a leave in except maybe twice just to see how it would work out. I prefer using a leave in. I started getting my hair blowed out and cut instead of the curly cut because I didn’t like the unevenness. I believe it makes sense that you cannot get all of the split ends with a curly cut. As you say we all should do what we feel is right for us. Do you have a video on the K18? I’d like to see that. I’ve watched someone else who mentioned it but no video. Also the last curly cut I got left me with tangled ends.
I do have a video 👀, still unedited 🤣🤣🤣!
@@rosieamelia5955 I’ll wait. 🙂
I usually get blow dried straight cuts and got a curly cut 1 time and suddenly had all those problems you’d mentioned with webbing, Velcro ends, extreme shedding/breakage/dehydrated hair. I know how fast my hair grow but to have my hair cut 2-3+ inches every trim every 3 months was very frustrating.
Yes it’s very frustrating! But at least now we have answers and can fix these issues and grow our hair healthier! I am happy you caught those things quickly!
@@rosieamelia5955 right, I’m also happy that I caught it before I went to get another curly cut. Now I’m in recovery mode and m doing a lot of deep conditioning and co-washes to try to get some moisture retention back into my hair.
It’s really a sad situation, putting your trust that these professionals are going to care for your hair and that was not the case!
I applaud you for having the courage to speak up and be honest about what is going on with your hair and why. It takes a lot of courage & guts because the backlash is very real! However, as influencers we owe it to our followers to be 💯 honest! So I appreciate you for walking in full transparency and honesty‼️
Lastly, my hair feels, looks and is behaving better since I started “moisturizing” it! AND….I’m just thankful there’s a solution to the problem and that you’re sharing it! 🙌🏽
Stay blessed my strong friend! 💖💯
Thank you 🙏
Nothing wrong with speaking your truth. I’ve not experienced anything remotely similar and have been using BGC method for about 6 years now. I tweak it somewhat by still using deep conditioners here and there. I just like how my curls pop when I do. 🤷🏽♀️ I’ll keep in mind what you said if I start to experience what you have.
Yes many who didn’t remove deep conditioner and leave in rarely experienced these issues!
i did get a lot out of the seesomecurls library just to put that out there. i learned to saturate my hair deeply before applying my shampoo, be intentional about how i interact with my hair while shampooing to help with detangling, using multiple shampoos, the recommendation for the felicia leatherwood brush, learning how to apply gels to my hair with enough water, drying using heat to set my style, and shampooing more frequently overall.
i did experience the webbing but i also went 8 months without a cut or trim (oops). i big chopped myself this year and have been trimming my hair at home and that’s been working for me so far, but i have still been experiencing some tangled. i’m going to start deep conditioning again, using a leave in, and trimming off the few tangly areas and see if that helps. i just need to find a clean deep conditioner and leave in compatible with my gels.
thank you for sharing your experience, even though it goes against the grain of the community following BGC. and thank you for naming how mean and dismissive those two can be. it’s really upsetting, especially when their methods aren’t necessarily the healthiest for everyone’s hair. i’m curious if their method works for specific essential elements better than others… i don’t know, but i’m going to augment my routine, it makes sense to me
There are a lot of women who seems to glean a bit of knowledge from their platforms! See everything isn’t for everybody! lol I can’t be up here lying though! I just speak my truth!
@@rosieamelia5955i’m not a woman (i’m non-binary) but definitely agree
hope you’ll be able to recover from this. i know how hard it is to lose a sense of trust you had in someone/something. it creates a wound and sometimes even opens up old ones. please take care of yourself! we love you! ❤❤❤
I apologize 💕
I definitely have lost trust! But after washing my hair last night and seeing my improvement with caring for my hair like I did before 🙌🏾! I have definitely learned a lot from many who have tried this method through their comments whether it good or bad💕! I just hope my experience and solution can help others!
We should see how everyone is doing by 2024. 😍
Preach ❤
we’re ALL gonna be THRIVIN🌿
Enjoying life with my boys 😁
Ouuu lordddd
Can’t wait to watch this
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My mom gets curly cuts but twice a year her stylist does a full blow out to inspect her strands and a traditional trim. Her hair is doing well but she deep condition once or twice a month. She doesn't use leaveins but she uses curl cream then gel over that. Me I have to deep condition every wash day. I still leavein conditioners, raw oils and gel and the style comes out bomb and I'm retaining length. Gel is very drying doesn't matter want oils are in the ingredients, depending on your hair porosity deep conditioning & Leave-in is needed.
Yes I realize my hair needs doesn’t go well with BGC method.
Leave in, deep conditioning is necessary for my hair to retain its softness and health.
I appreciate your courage. I did some curls or whatever their so called classes are called on a trial basis and I was not impressed. It was very unprofessional to me. I watched the lady with blonde hair style her hair and it was a tangled mess! She had trouble from beginning to end styling her hair. That convinced me that this process was bogus.
I watched the same process and was shocked! Watching that helped me to see how normalized hair webbing was in the community!
Most didn’t know it was not normal until I started taking about the causes!
Listen I have never had these issues with my prior routine!
Like many the well defined curls from using gels drew me in , these botanical gels were supposed to keep the hair hydrated and not dry them out! They would remove the need of leave in!
A stylist who was CIK trained answered my questions so now I am content!
She laid out everything, what has happened to our hair! She explained the method damaged our lipid layer and our hair has become severely dehydrated from doing this method!
She said curly cuts do not remove all split ends snd overtime the splits travel up the hair, next we are not using leave in under the gels and that causes issues because whether the gels are botanical or not they are drying !
Next no deep conditioner further causes the issues to get worse!
The CIk is also a chemist so after taking the course she did remove herself from the CIk stylist list !
I have gotten my answers!
@@rosieamelia5955 I didn’t buy in because I wasn’t comfortable just putting gel on my hair without a leave in or moisturizer. Something in my spirit kept telling me this isn’t right it doesn’t make sense. Something else one of the ladies with black girl curls said has stuck with me. In one of their lives or in a RUclips video I can’t remember which one it was but Aiesha the blonde one said that only seven stylists are cut it kinky certified! So what are the rest! Just cut it kinky trained? There are too many holes in this process for my liking.
Yes when I heard those words I was shocked, felt deceived! Now there is no more list! The blonde one said something a few weeks ago! She said since 2009 I believe she has been studying the natural hair community, RUclips, rice water, maximum hydration method and she had been in groups! So this lady knew what we were lacking🙊! The interesting part people don’t realize is we were practiced on by the stylists ( some on the list did online training but we were not made aware) and with the methodology ( where is the evidence that this worked overtime effectively) women grew long health hair! There are still so many questions
@@rosieamelia5955 This is just so sad. Instead of practicing with people or on people why not take your knowledge to cosmetology schools and try integrating the study of natural hair into the process. Or open a real school to teach your process or method. I just have so many questions.
Also the UFD has hydrolyzed wheat protein in it . This demolished my hair. I found out after they updated the label
Is that the same ingredient in ecostyler? The heavy protein in ecostyler damaged my hair back in the day.
See I love that we are sharing information! It’s very interesting how many of us are having similar experiences! I used eco styler maybe once 🤣! I gave away my gel to my sister! Before this I rarely used gels! I was a leave in, mousse girl
I definitely appreciate you❤
Thank you 😊
I find it funny that they talked so much mess about the LOC, LCO method... aren't they promoting another form of layering products... with 2 gels and a mousse?
Hmm 🤔
Yes I learned that a leave in is necessary 👀. Yes I can’t believe I really did all that mess 🤣
Totally agree curly cuts are not for me. I must get my hair cut in the blown out State. Some stylist I met never knew about the 30 day detox. Would want to cut my hair curly it would always be a disaster. I choose my hair products according to my allergies. Which are severe some of the product list are good suggestions. But I have to test everything. I breakout from Eco style and Uncle Funky. However Eco style gel made my hair fall out and my eyes swell up. Uncle Funky makes my scalp itch. I have to use fragrance free products. About to do a big chop again. Once I find a Stylist that can cut hair properly. Unfortunately too many Stylist like to wash hair into birds nest and tangle my hair. They don't detangle then want to blow dry with a comb detachment and pull out my hair. These are shops that silk press and use hot combs. It's a lot of Stylist in the Mid west who can't do curly hair period. I never stopped deep conditioning my hair and I always use a leave in. Before I heard of them when my original Stylist got cancer. I had to find another Stylist and it was hard first Stylisti got heat damage and cut all my hair. I would only wear my hair straight a couple of times a year. When I did it it never broke off. After my Lupus got worse I would go to a Stylist. And my hair hasn't been the same since.
I am so sorry. It’s very difficult to find a stylist. I am very sorry about the damage you received, I know how difficult that can be. I hope you can find someone who can gently care for your hair.
I agree with you on not a lot of stylist being able to do curly hair. Where I live I honestly can say I don’t see women with natural hair. Most women are in weave, wigs or braids so unfortunately stylists will move towards styling that will bring in income. When I am running errands the only women I see wearing their hair are biracial women or kids but not necessarily women looking like me.
The only time I saw more women wearing their natural hair was during Covid.
My hair was terrible. I can’t get anywhere with my hair. I started the bc in 2017. I am still at my shoulders and can’t get past it 😢
Hopefully 🙏🏾 you get to that goal! What is your goal length May I ask? I don’t have a length goal because I low key like short hair and always cut it low after 2 years! I am going to see how long it will get if I stop cutting it!
Hi Rosie, I’m sorry about your experience while following BGC. Please continue to share your experience on this YT platform. I appreciate your transparency ❤
Thank you 🙏🏾!
I have a few questions: 1) What is “webbing”? How do you know if you have this “webbing” going on? 2) What is “velcro”?? What does it look like? How can you know that your hair has “Velcro”?? I have always utilized Overnight Prepoo, hydrating shampoo (or Cleansing Shampoo), protein masque, conditioner, deep conditioning, aloe vera and a leave-in…..All this BEFORE applying/layering styling cream, curl gel or cream moisturizer. I finger detangle only and have only have the occasional fairy knot. I transitioned to my Big Chop a year ago (July 2022) and I had ALMOST 6” of natural hair (pre-shrinkage). My hair is now a FULL 11-1/2” to 12+” (pre-shrinkage). I just don’t understand the use of the terms, ‘webbing’ and ‘velcro’. Please explain….Thank you!
So webbing is when the hair is acting like spider Web, just Google it and you can find information .Velcro ends hair sticks together like Velcro you can also google this as well.so I don’t overnight prepoo because that can cause additional issues especially for some with scalp condition. That can also create issues for some. But it seems to be working perfectly for your hair. As with deep conditioning I rotate between protein or balance deep conditioner and the following week moisturizing deep conditioner.
I am too lazy to finger detangle , but it’s a gentle way to remove shed hair ( you have good patience with your hair 👌🏽). Webbing and Velcro is something you would notice if you were having them.you also are doing all the things that should prevent you from developing or having that condition. You seem to have your routine down
Could you share what you did to fix the webbing? Maybe I missed it but I’d like to see video on just that.
I have a comment below that shared what I did and a recent video demonstrating what I did to fix my webbing! I also went over it in this video !
Research webbing and there are various information on what it is and how to fix it! Hopefully this was helpful! If you have a stylist please contact them and let them know and ask how you should fix the issue!
I've been thinking about this. What if you get your hair blown out for a straight cut and you get heat damage? I used to do this and I always got heat damage, even with a heat protectant. I never let them flat iron, only blow it out straight to cut the ends. I am so confused.
Where were you going to get your hair blown out? Did they use the round brush?
@@NaturalMonroe Yes, they used a round brush sometimes and sometimes the comb attachment. A salon in London, UK.
You can definitely get heat damage from an incorrect blow dry unfortunately
There are certain things need to be done before blowing out your hair otherwise you will get heat damage! My stylist I see advise me on the routine I follow for when blowing the hair out! If you are having problems just speak to your stylist, they stated they are able to remove all split ends, so have open communication!