How To Expose F-Log 2 For CLEANER Results (No NR Needed)

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  • Опубликовано: 25 ноя 2024

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  • @blasepivovar
    @blasepivovar  Год назад +5

    Hope this quick video is helpful to you. While these ideas are nothing new, I have found it interesting the number of people who have commented or asked about their Fuji F-Log2 footage looking more noisy than desired. I also haven't seen a lot of helpful info from other Fuji users about how to both maximize dynamic range but also eliminate noise from the get go in camera as NR in post is not always the move. This video aims to be just one piece in the equation of how you might choose to expose whatever you are filming. Thanks for being here!

    • @fotosb7666
      @fotosb7666 19 дней назад

      It's my first time configuring FLOG2, I have an xt5. I followed the video step by step, but I noticed that my camera's brightness changes automatically, that is, in FLOG2 I don't have manual control over ISO, SHUTTER AND LENS APERTURE? When changing scenes, the camera simply calculated everything on its own as if it were in automatic mode to record, help, I don't know if this is normal or if I did something wrong

  • @codylander
    @codylander 8 месяцев назад +3

    Well done! Just picked up the XS20 and have been searching all over for these tips! Coming from Sony it seems to be roughly the same process. Thanks for your valuable lessons!

    • @blasepivovar
      @blasepivovar  8 месяцев назад +3

      Love that. XS20 is a sweet camera. Glad to hear the vids have been helpful!

  • @HVRIS
    @HVRIS 9 месяцев назад +2

    I've been overexposing my fuji footage by +1/3 when shooting 400% Eterna (gives the same result as flog1). So, it is good to know that the same principle applies here with flog2 even if we are overexposing a tad bit more. A lot of people just say to denoise but that slows down the timeline so much when I just want to chop and deliver the project.

    • @blasepivovar
      @blasepivovar  9 месяцев назад

      good to know. i haven’t shot a ton with eterna but that makes a lot of sense

  • @camera.mellow
    @camera.mellow 2 месяца назад +1

    wow that's really a dramatic difference.
    I've always been afraid to overexpose the image, and your video explains why my outdoors videos have so much noise!

    • @blasepivovar
      @blasepivovar  2 месяца назад +2

      glad to hear it was helpful. yeah its helpful to know what you can / can't do with your camera. i am not always exposing in this way but it was a fun test to push the camera in some more extreme scenarios

  • @stevegircys
    @stevegircys 9 месяцев назад +1

    Great content as always. I've been shooting with my X-H2S for a while and it's always nice seeing how other people handle F-FLOG2. I typically overexpose by at least a full stop - so long as I'm not clipping any highlights - and then bring the exposure back down just like you showed in this example. Regarding the issue you ran into with underexposing when using an external monitor, I've actually made my own LUTs that intentionally bring the total exposure down by a full stop. That way, I'm already accounting for that one stop of pull--down that I know I'm going to do in post and seeing a more accurate version of the image on my external monitor. As always, cross reference that with the zebras on the camera monitor to be safe. I hope that helps!

    • @blasepivovar
      @blasepivovar  9 месяцев назад +1

      Thanks Steve! I actually did the same thing since making this video and totally agree having luts like that on the monitor are a great additional tool. Love to hear that is working well for you too!

    • @mribi
      @mribi 4 месяца назад

      Is there somewhere I can download this flog2 one-stop-over monitor lut?

  • @andoughny
    @andoughny 10 месяцев назад +1

    absolutely nice content man, binge watching your channel rn

    • @blasepivovar
      @blasepivovar  10 месяцев назад

      thanks so much! appreciate you checking them out :)

  • @ITZkinggjoseph
    @ITZkinggjoseph 7 месяцев назад +1

    expose to the right for slog3, glad to know I can expose the same for flog 2

  • @GhettoFabulousFILMS
    @GhettoFabulousFILMS Год назад

    I haven't bought this camera but the way I'm invested on. Learning everything before buying it on black Friday 😅

    • @blasepivovar
      @blasepivovar  Год назад

      Haha yes, gotta do that research! Holler with any questions once you get it

  • @nitablackwood6301
    @nitablackwood6301 Год назад +4

    I’m still rocking the xt3. But imma watch anyways!

    • @blasepivovar
      @blasepivovar  Год назад +3

      Dope. Yeah same process would apply to Flog-1 although you might not have as much latitude to overexpose. Love the XT3

    • @matango1979
      @matango1979 4 месяца назад +1

      One trick with the XT3 is to research which ISO values are the least noisy. Most people think the higher you go the more noise. That's not true. In the case of the XT3 the cleanest values are 640 and 2000. You can go a tiny bit higher, but never go a little lower. 2000 looks significantly better than 1600. Zoom into a darker area and compare.

    • @nitablackwood6301
      @nitablackwood6301 4 месяца назад

      @@matango1979 I switched to lumix but if I ever get another Fuji xt3 I’ll use this.thanks

  • @siimeon
    @siimeon Год назад

    This exactly what I needed! Thank you for making this!!

  • @kenilev_photographer
    @kenilev_photographer 6 месяцев назад

    very much needed video. helps a lot

  • @Jamari_Brown
    @Jamari_Brown 10 месяцев назад +1

    Love your content man, it's always helpful. I noticed your white balance is set to daylight. Do you have a recommended white balance setting or do you change it per the scenario? I have an xt4 but I figured majority of this info would apply to flog1 also.

    • @blasepivovar
      @blasepivovar  10 месяцев назад

      Thanks so much. Yeah I am switching it per scenario. I use the daylight preset a lot for daylight scenarios. For anything warmer, I like to dial in the Kelvin value. Occasionally will also use AWB and then the AWB lock feature to make sure it doesn't shift on me mid take. Hope that helps!

  • @ShangleLP
    @ShangleLP Год назад +1

    you shoot decrease the exposure in the hdr wheel with the right gamma settings cause than its true linear ^^

    • @blasepivovar
      @blasepivovar  Год назад

      Good note. I don't think I can as Resolve still doesn't have native support for F-Log 2 just original F-Log. Let me know if I am wrong on that but didn't see a way to select that? Selecting F-Log 1 does help it behave more linearly but still not exactly.

    • @ShangleLP
      @ShangleLP Год назад

      hmmm true. sometimes it helps to find some lut native in davinci that get a look similiar to what fuji gets you. for example the arri lut is pretty similiar to the panasonic v log lut @@blasepivovar

  • @bise7en922
    @bise7en922 Год назад +1

    Thanks so much

  • @zelafilms
    @zelafilms 8 месяцев назад +1

    Thanks for this dude! I’m having trouble sending a receiving a 6.2k open gate signal to the Atomos Ninja V +. It automatically converts to an HD signal even after your recommendation in this video. I’m simply looking to view this on my Ninja not record on it. Any help would be greatly appreciated!

    • @blasepivovar
      @blasepivovar  8 месяцев назад

      Hey dude! I don't have experience with the Ninja. Only things I know to do would be to toggle on and off the HDMI Output Info Display. If that doesn't work, I am not sure what to try next!

  • @fotosb7666
    @fotosb7666 19 дней назад

    HI. It's my first time configuring FLOG2, I have an xt5. I followed the video step by step, but I noticed that my camera's brightness changes automatically, that is, in FLOG2 I don't have manual control over ISO, SHUTTER AND LENS APERTURE? When changing scenes, the camera simply calculated everything on its own as if it were in automatic mode to record, help, I don't know if this is normal or if I did something wrong

    • @blasepivovar
      @blasepivovar  19 дней назад

      Hi! Good question. You have to make sure your camera is set to full manual. Check out my full XT5 settings video as that might be helpful: ruclips.net/video/aXQ0Zj2Wh94/видео.html

  • @fais_ireland
    @fais_ireland 11 месяцев назад

    Thanks for the video! Question: What is the highest ISO you would be comfortable to shoot F - log 2 at? Also, Is there a make-do second base ISO for the XH2s?

    • @blasepivovar
      @blasepivovar  11 месяцев назад +1

      Yo! Maybe not what you would expect, but for anything that requires a high ISO / low light I actually prefer to switch to classic chrome. I feel comfortable pushing up to ISO 6400 with CC if its really needed. When filming in F-Log 2 I am almost always keeping it at ISO 1250. In CC, There is a dual gain at ISO 500 that cleans up quite a bit. But just google XH2S Sensor Measurement charts and take a look at the data on those. Hope that helps!

    • @fais_ireland
      @fais_ireland 11 месяцев назад

      @@blasepivovar Thanks. And you are right, I really didn't expect that.

    • @blasepivovar
      @blasepivovar  11 месяцев назад +1

      For F-Log 2, the 2nd base ISO is at 3200 so if you needed to go above 1250 it would be best to jump up to that.

    • @fais_ireland
      @fais_ireland 11 месяцев назад

      I was really confused about the second base ISO. Some websites like, Moment, mentioned that there are no second base ISO for XH2s. Thanks for the clarity on this. Really appreciate it.

    • @blasepivovar
      @blasepivovar  11 месяцев назад +1

      Happy to help! Yeah I don't think it is a true "dual base iso" as Fuji doesn't really market it as that, but others have found that it cleans up at that point through testing. Gerald Undone's review of the camera has some good visual examples@@fais_ireland

  • @marcsugier
    @marcsugier Год назад +1

    Thanks for all your tips! I watched your video where you were recommending to have your high ISO NR in +2 when filming flog2 to avoid doing NR in post.
    Is that something you’re not doing anymore for a particular reason?

    • @blasepivovar
      @blasepivovar  Год назад +1

      Good catch. I am always tweaking things and updating people as I go. I've really been liking NR at 0 and overexposing like I demonstrate here in this video as of recent. Hope that helps! Do you remember which video it was?

    • @marcsugier
      @marcsugier Год назад

      Hi Blase! Yes, the video is called “ how to set up the Fujifilm XH2S-best settings. I will try this new setting you’re sharing ☺️

  • @kl00ver
    @kl00ver Год назад +1

    Amazing! Have you worked with s-log 3 much? How do you find the noise and dynamic range compares? Also slightly confused as I've read and seen in tests that the xh2s actually has better dynamic range over the fx3 in s-log 3 which confuses me as the clipping point for f-log 2 is 85 while s-log 3 is 94 so should slog not be better? Anyways such a helpful video, thinking about picking an xh2s up pretty soon!

    • @blasepivovar
      @blasepivovar  Год назад +2

      Glad you found it helpful! I have not worked a ton with slog-3 but I imagine it feels similar. When it comes to dynamic range I'm not the best with all the technical info so not sure what exactly would contribute to the XH2S having more latitude. Both look great when exposed well and graded in my opinion :)

    • @kl00ver
      @kl00ver Год назад

      @@blasepivovar yeahhh okay sweet as thank you for the insight. Just looking to actually sell my fx3 to pickup an xh2s which ik is technically a downgrade so finding it hard to commit to but feel it would suit me more and the 6.2k being able to crop for phone would be sooooo handy! Plus fuji colours and processing of colours I find so much more pleasing. Anyways absolutely ranting lmao but you’ve been a big inspo seeing the images you’ve been getting out of it :))

  • @timotheo4784
    @timotheo4784 Год назад

    H265 will compress dark areas more than bright ones, so just wonder if the result would be the same with ProRes 422 HQ? If ProRes behaves differently (as it should be the case), it'd still be recommended to expose skin tones for the right IRE value.

    • @blasepivovar
      @blasepivovar  Год назад

      Totally could be. I don't really ever shoot ProRes so didn't do any testing

  • @obtucreations
    @obtucreations 4 месяца назад

    Hey dude, what lens do you use for making your RUclips videos like this one? You use manual focus or Auto? Thank you

    • @blasepivovar
      @blasepivovar  4 месяца назад +1

      most of the time the sigma art 18-35 EF and yes AF

    • @obtucreations
      @obtucreations 4 месяца назад

      @@blasepivovar amazing how it looks with this settings.thanks man

  • @antoinerault3872
    @antoinerault3872 Год назад +1

    By having your shutter speed over the fps, are you not getting a jumpy feeling in your video?

    • @blasepivovar
      @blasepivovar  Год назад +7

      Yo! So yeah anything more than twice your fps will have less motion blur. In this scenario, sitting and talking to camera the difference is negligible and was the quickest way to demonstrate. Could have done the same thing with adjusting the aperture or using an ND but results would be the same. There are certain projects where I don't think cranking the shutter is bad. Others were I like to keep it at 180* - hope that helps :)

  • @artisnearbybtc
    @artisnearbybtc 3 месяца назад

    потрясающее просто

  • @shueibdahir
    @shueibdahir 5 месяцев назад +1

    I seriously recommend against overexposing Log footage.
    If you know how log manages to cram the linear light levels from the scenes which create a massive amount of data into log using lower bitdepth than what is required from linear, you'll know that isn't done without sacrifice. With log this is achieved by compressing the tonal range of the highlights and shadows while the midtone is wider with it's tonal range. Meaning if you don't place the scene where it's supposed to be in the log curve but instead overexpose, you'll end up compressing the light levels massively leading to less tonal range in the image. This is much more noticeable with HDR.
    Log and RAW are supposed to be noisy if the noise reduction is off or toned down. Avoiding noise entirely causes issues down the line. So if you can keep noise within manageable levels, your footage should do well.
    I highly recommend studying the log curve you work with

    • @blasepivovar
      @blasepivovar  5 месяцев назад

      thanks for the insight. you should make a video on this

    • @Rholmes2010
      @Rholmes2010 3 месяца назад

      So expose for about zero on the exposure scale? Or just expose to the right and avoid clipping highlights?

    • @shueibdahir
      @shueibdahir 3 месяца назад

      @Rholmes2010 each log profile has it's own white paper/datasheet. I recommend reading up on it and also using exposure tools such as a grey/white card combo.
      Exposure is like a science you have to study and master

    • @Rholmes2010
      @Rholmes2010 3 месяца назад

      @@shueibdahir Thanks!

  • @bvmproductiesbe
    @bvmproductiesbe 8 месяцев назад

    I don't understand how footage can be less noise when you overexpose on the same base iso ...
    Help me understand please.

    • @blasepivovar
      @blasepivovar  8 месяцев назад

      Yo! I'll call on @EvanSchneider for his wisdom

  • @g.y.creationsgoldentwins
    @g.y.creationsgoldentwins 9 месяцев назад

    How do u handle the 10 bit 422 with 265, to get a smooth playback even with my rtx 3080 it's really tough to get it smooth

    • @blasepivovar
      @blasepivovar  9 месяцев назад +1

      Yo! I am on a 2021 Macbook M1 Pro and am running Resolve Studio and things run pretty smoothly. If you are filming in ALL-I instead of Long-GOP that can also slow down editing

    • @g.y.creationsgoldentwins
      @g.y.creationsgoldentwins 9 месяцев назад +1

      @@blasepivovar thx man, yeah i also use long gop but as i read it's more a nividia problem how it handles 'hyperthreading', there are a lots of complaints recently. Thx for this video had a lot of learnings and could have gone longer for even more details. Keep up and happy to see more Fuji content!

    • @blasepivovar
      @blasepivovar  9 месяцев назад

      @g.y.creationsgoldentwins ah i see. yeah computers keeping up with the cameras is definitely an interesting thing folks don’t always think / talk about. thanks so much for the encouragement.

    • @stevegircys
      @stevegircys 9 месяцев назад +1

      @@g.y.creationsgoldentwins H265 is not meant to be a codec that you edit with. It would be very intensive on your system (as you've seen) to do so. The proper workflow would be to convert all of your footage to a format like ProRes before you start editing. The reason that these cameras offer ProRes recording internally is so that you can skip this step and start editing right away. But it doesn't take very long to batch all of your footage in Adobe Media Encoder and convert it all to ProRes.

    • @stevegircys
      @stevegircys 9 месяцев назад

      @@blasepivovar Trying converting all of your footage to ProRes or DNxHD before you start editing and see how much faster and smoother the editing goes!

  • @ceepee9077
    @ceepee9077 5 месяцев назад

    My xt2 iso800 is Little bit noisy… i dont know why

    • @blasepivovar
      @blasepivovar  5 месяцев назад +1

      I imagine it is the X-Trans CMOS III sensor / processor in the camera. When Fuji release the X-Trans CMOS 4 with the XT3 there was a big bump in video quality.

  • @Philonic
    @Philonic 6 месяцев назад

    So you’re filming 24fps at 200 or 800 shutter instead of 48/50? Why would you do that? What about proper SS? Is there a good way to expose it for that?

    • @blasepivovar
      @blasepivovar  6 месяцев назад +1

      For things where motion blur is noticeable, yes 48/50. Variable ND filter for setting exposure

    • @Philonic
      @Philonic 6 месяцев назад

      @@blasepivovar of course ND. I brainfarted that one lol

  • @thebaddestgene8853
    @thebaddestgene8853 7 месяцев назад

    why not just 24p instead of 23.98?

    • @blasepivovar
      @blasepivovar  7 месяцев назад

      23.976 is/was the standard for US broadcast so i just go with that. 24 would look exactly the same you just don’t want to mix both in the same timeline as you may run into sound sync issues the longer a video is.

  • @chekyourhed
    @chekyourhed 5 месяцев назад +1

    why is your shutter speed so high???? it should be double you FPS, isn't this supposed to give you the most cinematic video

    • @blasepivovar
      @blasepivovar  5 месяцев назад +8

      in a scenario where your subject and the background aren’t moving (this video), there is no difference in filming at a higher shutter