Thanks man 🙃 180 wont be too good if you are shooting 24fps. If 48 and above should not be a problem. I believe I shot 30 degrees there though or about that number. When I shoot 48 fps in general I tend to shoot shutter angle bellow 10 degrees rather than going for an ND filter. Since slowmo looks better more crisp with higher shutter - works perfect for me
I didn't know this!! Good to know for my next shoot, Thank you! PS: I love all your tools in the background! I might steal that idea for myself one day
Actually they were always bellow 15 I believe. Like really really low as I removed the ND to get lowest possible. Not great for moving though but very good for handheld / still ;)
In terms of focal length metadata it’s important to remember it stays the same no matter what size the sensor is or if using a speed booster. Only your field of view changes. A 35mm lens is always a 35mm, putting it on smaller sensor doesn’t magically change it to a longer lens. It will always be the same focal length.
I dont think anyone is arguing that. You are right about the same focal length but the angle of view is perceived different on different size sensors when using same focal length lens (if its designed for both full and being mounted on crop sensors) but also the way gyro data is interpreted is up to the manufacturer of the camera to workout the vectors.
@@philipp9550 actual field of view is 20mm 🙃 now if you compare it to 35mm “full frame”, medium frame or large frame then they all vary thats why many “geekier” cinematographers don’t even bother with mm but rather use the degrees of actual angle of view because it varies from capturing media size 🤷🏻♂️
@@CINENIMUS ok. Hmm 🤔 I Just liked to know if this effects what we say the camera. I mean on a pocket 4K the crop ist 2.0 you get 20mm on a 10mm lens. On the 6K you get 15mm with a 10mm lens. So still both need to be set to 10mm I guess… Thanks. It’s just confusing me what information we need to give the camera to make gyro work properly P.S. and to make things even more complicated I also sometimes use a speedbooster on the 4K. What should I put in on a 10mm?
@@philipp9550 you only would need to change the focal length from what it says on the lens if you are using a lens that is designed for a bigger sensor with focal reducer in between and then just multiply by the focal reducer's reduction factor. So if you put 10mm "full frame" lens on mft sensor but there is a focal reducer of say 0.75 - you just multiply those numbers as that lens would look wider on the mft sensor now - something like 7.5mm. Also - experiment :) no better way of knowing than trying things out yourself ;)
I'm having a similar problem except it is with the EF mount Sigma 24-105 f4 - OIS turned off on the camera but still gyro data is not saved to file, or is disabled. Sigma 18-35 works fine. Lens data is read from lens so only parameters you can change are name & filter. This is a real bummer as the Gyro data stabilization is superior to the OIS of the sigma lens. I would appreciate any advice...
What I do if I shoot on my zooms I just make a note of the angles I will be shooting at in preproduction stage and update metadata accordingly. Thats the safest way
@@CINENIMUS This works for lenses without electrical contact, you can set the focal length on the lens data page in camera. However for EF lenses with contacts they send their data to camera and the option to set focal length in lens data is greyed out. I don't know a way to retrospectively change lens data, ie focal length (do you?) and I think the gyro data is not saved to file if the camera thinks optical stabilization is being used. I hope that BM can add a menu toggle to switch on/off lens stabilization, as this feature is still in the latest firmware of the Pocket 4K.
Hello! I have the latest davinci 18.1.2. with a license, BM 4K is also updated to the latest firmware, but the gyro stabilization function is stupidly not in the list of stubs. I shot in braw, turned off the stub on the lens, turned on the optics stabilization function, the camera automatically entered the parameters of the lens (panasonic 12-35). What is the matter, comrades? Help!
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Excellent footage! The gyro stabilisation seems to work extremely well. Thanks for the video.
You are welcome thanks for watching 😉
This is the type of creator that you need to follow in this niche.
I’m trying and failing constantly… but I’m still not giving up 🙏
Love love love these test shots 😍🦮🦨🌿🌱🍁
Really nice footage! May I know what shutter angle you were using? Would 180 degrees be okay?
Thanks man 🙃 180 wont be too good if you are shooting 24fps. If 48 and above should not be a problem. I believe I shot 30 degrees there though or about that number. When I shoot 48 fps in general I tend to shoot shutter angle bellow 10 degrees rather than going for an ND filter. Since slowmo looks better more crisp with higher shutter - works perfect for me
I didn't know this!! Good to know for my next shoot, Thank you!
PS: I love all your tools in the background! I might steal that idea for myself one day
You are welcome to do it haha I guess shooting in the workshop was not the worst idea lol
@@CINENIMUS Hahaha thanks!!! I just saw the video about your shed! It looks awesome!
Looks very good, not dark at all.
dude, your results are fantastic. What shutter angle do you use? 90? or 45?
Actually they were always bellow 15 I believe. Like really really low as I removed the ND to get lowest possible. Not great for moving though but very good for handheld / still ;)
In terms of focal length metadata it’s important to remember it stays the same no matter what size the sensor is or if using a speed booster. Only your field of view changes. A 35mm lens is always a 35mm, putting it on smaller sensor doesn’t magically change it to a longer lens. It will always be the same focal length.
I dont think anyone is arguing that. You are right about the same focal length but the angle of view is perceived different on different size sensors when using same focal length lens (if its designed for both full and being mounted on crop sensors) but also the way gyro data is interpreted is up to the manufacturer of the camera to workout the vectors.
Thanks for the test! Do we need to calculate the crop factor of 1.5 when manually typing the focal length?
No not really none of the BMPCC’s are full frame anyway. Only time it would matter if you using BMPCC4K and a speedbooster
@@CINENIMUS ok thanks 🙏
so if I use a 20mm (for example) I’ll type in 20mm field of view even though the actual field of view is 30 mm!?
@@philipp9550 actual field of view is 20mm 🙃 now if you compare it to 35mm “full frame”, medium frame or large frame then they all vary thats why many “geekier” cinematographers don’t even bother with mm but rather use the degrees of actual angle of view because it varies from capturing media size 🤷🏻♂️
@@CINENIMUS ok. Hmm 🤔 I
Just liked to know if this effects what we say the camera. I mean on a pocket 4K the crop ist 2.0 you get 20mm on a 10mm lens. On the 6K you get 15mm with a 10mm lens. So still both need to be set to 10mm I guess…
Thanks. It’s just confusing me what information we need to give the camera to make gyro work properly
P.S. and to make things even more complicated I also sometimes use a speedbooster on the 4K. What should I put in on a 10mm?
@@philipp9550 you only would need to change the focal length from what it says on the lens if you are using a lens that is designed for a bigger sensor with focal reducer in between and then just multiply by the focal reducer's reduction factor. So if you put 10mm "full frame" lens on mft sensor but there is a focal reducer of say 0.75 - you just multiply those numbers as that lens would look wider on the mft sensor now -
something like 7.5mm. Also - experiment :) no better way of knowing than trying things out yourself ;)
I'm having a similar problem except it is with the EF mount Sigma 24-105 f4 - OIS turned off on the camera but still gyro data is not saved to file, or is disabled. Sigma 18-35 works fine. Lens data is read from lens so only parameters you can change are name & filter. This is a real bummer as the Gyro data stabilization is superior to the OIS of the sigma lens. I would appreciate any advice...
What I do if I shoot on my zooms I just make a note of the angles I will be shooting at in preproduction stage and update metadata accordingly. Thats the safest way
@@CINENIMUS This works for lenses without electrical contact, you can set the focal length on the lens data page in camera. However for EF lenses with contacts they send their data to camera and the option to set focal length in lens data is greyed out. I don't know a way to retrospectively change lens data, ie focal length (do you?) and I think the gyro data is not saved to file if the camera thinks optical stabilization is being used. I hope that BM can add a menu toggle to switch on/off lens stabilization, as this feature is still in the latest firmware of the Pocket 4K.
Haz un video enseñándonos a colorizare de esa manera tan cálida como solo tú lo sabes hacer, por favor 🙏se
Sorry no idea I only speak English
@@CINENIMUS RUclips traduce los comentarios. Eres racista? 😬
Hello! I have the latest davinci 18.1.2. with a license, BM 4K is also updated to the latest firmware, but the gyro stabilization function is stupidly not in the list of stubs. I shot in braw, turned off the stub on the lens, turned on the optics stabilization function, the camera automatically entered the parameters of the lens (panasonic 12-35). What is the matter, comrades? Help!
Did you check the metadata?
@@CINENIMUS figured it out. it was necessary to disable stabilization in the camera itself
@@tamirikus you got there eventually 👌
If the sample footage is this good, then I need one hour of it haha. jk. Thank you for the insights. Love your channel
Thank you for the kind words - there is another video in the works comparing my new lens to the old one - loads of sample footage haha
Thank you for the kind words - there is another video in the works comparing my new lens to the old one - loads of sample footage haha
Man, a lot of these BM footage is dark.
Really you think so? What are you watching it on? Looks good on my production monitor, iPhone and MacBook pro 🤷🏻
Could be what you're watching it on. It looks great on my computer.