Gyro Stabilization | Review | Pros & Cons, tested on vintage, zoom & cine lenses ( BMPCC 6K Pro )
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- Опубликовано: 27 июл 2022
- My thoughts after one month using the Gyro Stabilization.
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Today’s video is about the Gyro data that you can now use in the BMPCCs.
I know this has been around for a while now but I had some time to test it during the last month so I wanted to share my thoughts with you.
I am going to show you a selection of shots using the 6K Pro with various lenses, from vintage to cine glass as well as regular zoom lenses.
I will also share my thoughts on it, the pros and cons in MY opinion as well as comparing it to FCPX’s inbuilt stabilisation.
(Firmware 7.9)
Let me know if you have any questions :).
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Here are my thoughts on the Gyro Stabilisation.
Have you tried it and what do you think?
Cheers,
Flo
I have found that the by turning off the automatic crop setting, which at times seems to be a bit too aggressive, I can use manual zoom in the Inspector and get a better result. Great vid as always!
Glad you liked the video and thanks for the tip :) !!
It's probably the most thorough review on Gyro Stabilization I've seen so far., thanks!
Glad you enjoyed it :) !!
A really comprehensive summary. I've found it useful for when out hiking and doing impromptu stuff without a Gimbal. It's a great back up tool and hopefully keeps getting better as time moves on
Glad you enjoyed the video !! It is definitely useful and a great backup :)
Fantastic video. Gyro was continuing to be a bit of a mystery to me. As with just about everything, something's true usefulness "depends". Great explanation and fantastic examples and breakdown. I often shoot with C/Y Zeiss primes and sometimes with Sirui anamorphics and don't have a gimbal, so relevance is high. Your content is always informative and accessible. Thank you again!
Thanks so much !! Really glad you enjoyed the video :)
@2:14, love the Justice vinyl!
Haha thanks for noticing :) !!
Great overview, thanks!
Damn, your hands alone are well stabilised!
Thanks man!! Haha, I shoot a lot handheld so I am used to it I guess :)
Hey Flo !
One of the technique to use if you plan to use gyrodata on a very shaky environment is to crank up the shutter speed. By reducing the motion blur you will not see as much blurry and soft frames. It's not always a solution and it brake sometimes the smoothness of 180° shutter but it may help in some cases
Edit: obviously you mention that further in the video !
Hey mate, haha I tried to cover everything and yes as you said changing the shutter can help :)
I think In this case you can use resolve studio to add motion blur on post
This is really good when shooting in daylight but when I tried shooting at night with Shutter of 75 or 90 the Horizontal Rolling Banding Lines started to pop in due the lights in the surrounding, if you have any solution for this do let me know.
@@Mangyaa You have to work around the frequency of the artificial lighting around you in that case.
@Rosenbis You are right on this, at 7:00 is very clear too see motion blur from shaking. Using the 180 degree shutter rule makes post stabilization problematic and blurry. The gyrodata based stabilization helps with the rolling shutter effect compensation which is the real game changer here! Your can hold the camera in your hand quite smooth, wow!
Been waiting 🙏🏻😍
Thanks !! Hope you enjoy the video :)
Appreciate your content! Just bought a bmpp4k to film stuff for my own music and your content has helped me out coming from knowing nothing about cameras. Also good taste in music 😉
Glad you do and happy to hear :) And thanks haha, can't beat JusTice !!
Great tip on IS lenses. This will come in handy with the Sigma 18-35 and 6kPro. It's not a cure-all for everything, but as you said, it's a great option to have.
Definitely a solid option to have !!
Helpful video, especially hearing about the lack of gyro with an IS lens. I just found that out too.. watching your video saved me trying to research the issue to find out why it wasn't working with an IS lens with the image stabilisation turned on. I was hoping that would work, as I find IS lens work well except for the rotational micro movements that can occur. Generally my experience has been very similar to what is outlined in the video. I have noticed moiré effect sometimes in Davinci Resolve that does not show when rendering the final output, mainly on lenses above 24mm. The fuzzy background (or even main subject) is something that I have also noticed, again it is more pronounced with the longer focal lengths. And reducing the shutter angel does help, but not something I want to do generally. I find that the gyro works best for me at 24mm and below, and sometimes it can be very helpful and look really smooth and natural.
Solid review as always. I haven't taken Fuji advantage of the gyro information but it's id use in a pinch if needed
Thank you mate !! Exactly my thoughts, it can come in really handy in some situations :)
There are definitely more pros than cons with gyro data - now we need this in all camera manufacturers 🙌🏻
100% !! Blackmagic is killing it once more :)
Thanks for putting this together. No one has covered the issue with IS lenses as far as I am aware. I just went on a trip and shot with the Canon 16 - 35 mm with IS on. Now I know I cannot use the gyro stabilization with the footage I shot. BTW - Love the shot of the Justice album and the record player ;)
Thank you for watching !! Haha, that album is too good!
I think the Gyro stabilisation is just here to reduces vibrations not totally take it away, so while filming on a cine lens one needs to remember to position properly in other to get minimum vibrations in camera so the Gyro can best serve its purpose and not crop in too much on the footage in post. the heavier the vibration in camera the more it crops the footage. great in information shared in your bro.
Thank you!! And yes, I agree. I am usually quite stable when shooting handheld :)
That's pretty cool. Them other camera manufacturers need to do this
100%! It's a very handy feature to have for sure, especially in a free firmware update :)
Excellent, thank you
Thanks for watching!!
I love the footage of Finn :) xx
Hehe he's too cute :) x
love your style
Thank you ☺️
Thanks for this useful info! regards
Thanks for watching :) !!
Great video
Thanks!!
Bonjour, super vidéo encore une fois !
Pour de meilleures résultats, est-ce qu'on doit modifier le degré d'obturation (à 75° par exemple) ou d'autre réglage ?
Well done, and answered my question about FCPX differences. Do you use luts or is that just pure color grading/correcting on the wildlife shots you took?
Thanks !! For my grading I use filmconvert in FCPX. I made a video about the way I color grade if you are interested :)
The moiré you're seeing is just because DaVinci samples down the resolution of your footage for when you view it while editing on default. Anyway, great informative video!
Thanks !! Thought about this actually.
This Davinci is amazing, very easy to apply the stabilization like u said. So, when u say I prefer use Gyro on Manual Lens, it can be AF Lens with mode off too? I mean, the sigma 18-35 has a switcheable focus mode. I see more pros that cons. It depends the movements u will make for shot. For microjitter i think is kickass. I dont like the blur and artifacts i can see in fastest shots but is the only cons for me. Great video!!!
Thank you !! Yes it can be an IS lens without the IS, I just meant I personally prefer to use it with full manual lenses :).
I think there needs to be more controls within Resolve to allow different rates and extents of movement in panning and tilting.
That would be nice!!
Oh wow...your wife is a talented artist. Very nice drawing.
Thanks, she really is !! I'll make sure to pass on the feedback :)
The sweet spot of shutter angle is at 45° or maybe 60° with less light, image is less blurry and the crop also smaller than the one from 120°.
Thanks for the tip :)
Changing the shutter angle definitely gets rid of motion blur, but why would it change the crop?
I like that they added some stabilization to the black magic. For narrative footage it can go very well. Is the result strange if I increase more than 180°?
It is definitely a nice touch from BM! I haven't done a lot of tests with various shutter angles since I prefer to shoot in 180 or 172. Some people said to me that 90 helps a lot. I think you can find more detailed tests about this on YT :)
Justice - Cross 😍
Haha a lot of people are noticing !! Such a great album, I'm french too so I had to have it :)
Since we have to choose between gyro or IS, do you have a feeling which does a better job?
It depends on the situation and the lens. I prefer using IS lenses because I know what to expect.
Hello! I have the latest davinci 18.1.2. with a license, BM 4K is also updated to the latest firmware, but the gyro stabilization function is stupidly not in the list of stubs. I shot in braw, turned off the stub on the lens, turned on the optics stabilization function, the camera automatically entered the parameters of the lens (panasonic 12-35). What is the matter, comrades? Help!
What is the lightest gimbal available in the BMPCC 6K pro(w. contax 28mm)? Can I use webill s? What do you think about sharing a gimbal and gyro together?
DJI RS2, then RS3pro, then Crane2S
the latest firmware allows lens IS with gyro ?
Hey I am curious, do you miss wide angle using the Blackmagic ( with the crop factor )
Hey, not really. I have always shot with S35 cameras so I am used to it. 16mm is plenty wide for me :)
@@OfTwoLands I wasn't sure if a 24-70 would be good enough ( on FF ) or I would need a 16-35. But I think 24-70 it is ! Merci !
It's too bad that it only works if you shoot RAW. I always shoot in ProRes because of storage. I will have to test this and see if it's better than the normal stabilization you get in Resolve.
Thanks for sharing!
I would love to have it in Prores too, hopefully in the future! Thanks for watching :)
Does the gyro work while live streaming
You can only use it in post so I don’t think it’s possible.
I ended up weighting my camera to 10# and the microjitter is gone, replaced by muscle spasms
😂 brilliant!!
😂😉
Since you mentioned you use IS lenses a lot, can you please share your thoughts on pulling focus manually on these lenses? I have used Canon IS lenses and pulling focus manually has been a nightmare for me. I assume when IS is built into a lens, it will be a focus by wire system. Or do we have Canon lenses which have IS and they also have focus mechanism like manual cine lenses? This is one thing which is stopping me from buying the 6K Pro. The camera has unusable auto focus but it also doesn't have in body IS. This means the best bet for hand held shots is to get a lens with optical stabilisation but it should also have manual focus system. Is there such a lens? Thank you for the video.
The Canon IS are ok for manual focusing, not amazing but I am used to it I guess. A lot of my work is shot with the Canon IS and I always film in manual since I use the bmpcc6k. It has never been an issue for me. Of course I prefer the feeling of my cinema lenses but sometimes I have to pick IS and range over smooth focusing.
@@OfTwoLands Thank you for the reply. They are very helpful. I think that big bright screen is probably a big help too.
i think camera with rolling shutter must have IBIS (on/off)
it's oke no ibis with global shutter..
No ibis + rolling shutter : set up must be heavy to counter micro jitter
Small camera (apsc/mft) + no ibis + rolling shutter + + no gyro data + no af = nightmare
Well I would say that if you use the gyro data on completely broken shots like in the end, you can not except wonders! The number one rule is to not use a setup that does not automatically causes micro jitters and therefore you absolutely need a certain amount of weight to the camera. If you do, the gyro data will work nicely. Cranking up the shutter speed, like others suggest, in my opinion is total bullshit because you destroy the images in different areas. You might as well film everything in 60p then :) Pretty sure if you put a bit more weight and a cage you can make much more use of the data.
Not sure what you mean by broken shots, none of those shots are extreme by any means. Personally I think that the gyro data does a much better job in correcting micro jitters than 'bigger' movements. I will always use a gimbal or my Easyrig for heavier setups anyway :)
@@OfTwoLands I only mean the walking shot. It has rolling shutter jitters.
Hey, the one where your wife was walking and the trees were blurring and etc. you can fix this before you shoot. The reason why you see this blurring is because of the shutter angle. Bring the shutter angle down to 90-70 degrees. Go to my channel and watch my most recent video, 36 seconds in you will see that I shot something similar to that. I learned my lesson, when shooting 60fps and slowing it down to 30-24fps, you should bring the shutter angle down to 70-45 degrees. You can add motion blur after the fact. Check my video out to see the results. Videos called “life’s a dream”, 36 seconds in.
Works of your wife are so beautiful.
Thank you! I’ll pass on the message ☺️